Klonoa thread

[Anonymous No.9786653]

I was thinking. Klonoa Phantasy Reverie Series was a success right?
and we all want them to release more Klonoa games, right?
And we also want you to resume and finish the comic Klonoa: Dream Traveler of Noctis Sol, right?
So what if Namco makes a game that takes the plot of the comic and ends it?
like seriously! I really want Namco to give an official conclusion to that comic. it was going too well where it was going. I don't understand why they could never finish it.
can't we get together and collect signatures to ask namco to make a game of Klonoa: Dream Traveler of Noctis Sol or at least finish the comic?

[Anonymous No.9786659]

>>9786653
I just want to see more of this. is it too much to ask?
(I know that some fans made an unofficial continuation, but I really want to know what the original author had planned for the work).

[Anonymous No.9786694]

>>9786653
fart

[Anonymous No.9787049]

Next post will be an anon saying he wants to fuck Klonoa, mark my words.

[Anonymous No.9787082]

Klonoa is a horribly overrated franchise. The gameplay is a shittier Kirby and the game only has charm to hold it up, something that wears thin.

Klonoa deserved to die.

[Anonymous No.9787147]

I don't want to fuck Klonoa

[Anonymous No.9787224]

>thought about pirating this game
>felt about it
>did not do it
do NOT pirate SOUL-ASS releases like the Klonoa remaster

[Anonymous No.9787231]

>>9787224
felt bad about it*

[Anonymous No.9787239]

>>9787082
I'd say it's being properly appreciated. It's still a relatively niche and cultish title overall. A lot of people know about it for sure it but I don't really see anyone constantly rave about it like many other franchises out there.

[Anonymous No.9787282]

The GBA games had better gameplay

[Terrence Mcmillan No.9787289]

>>9787082
>compare kirby to klonoa
Kirby is a game focused on platforms, Klonoa is focused on solving puzzles. Your argument is like saying that Zelda is a shitty Dragon Quest.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

[Anonymous No.9787378]

>>9786653
I played through Klonoa Heroes with the fan translation recently. I like the story and the gameplay was fun, but the experience curve and stat system dragged it down as you're behind on having just enough strength to defeat enemies, even when defeating every enemy you come across.
There's a lot of "keep smacking an enemy to slowly recharge special meter until you can kill them with a special".

[Anonymous No.9787991]

>>9787378
I am currently playing it. What you mention I have also noticed and I also find it annoying. but I don't think it's that bad either. The only thing that really bothers the game is that they haven't placed a map. Like seriously, what would it have taken them to put it up? many times you get lost or enter through a door believing that it is the goal without knowing that it is actually where you entered.
Other than that, I love the game. I love his music, his story and his characters.

[Anonymous No.9789075]

:c

[Anonymous No.9789624]

>>9787224
>>9787231
The remaster is ass though

[Anonymous No.9789951]

>>9789624
Why?

[Anonymous No.9790286]

On /vr/ these threads never turn sexy.

>Good

You fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.9790290]

>>9789951
It's a "remaster". If you need more elaboration than that then you're the cancer killing my hobby.

[Anonymous No.9790383]

>>9790290
Anon wtf? I wanted to know if the game was bad for being bad, not if a remaster is bad for being a remaster.

[Anonymous No.9790448]

>>9787082
Having played both Kirby and Klonoa, it is not like Kirby outside of both having the ability to 'grab' and shoot enemies.
Even tonewise, Klonoa tends to trend more towards being bittersweet.

[Anonymous No.9790680]

>>9790383
My dear Anon, a remaster or a remake is supposed to improve upon the original, but there's nothing here being improved.
facial expressions, lighting and Atmosphere are all wrong.
it looks like a cheap mobile game made with Unity assets by a bunch of pajeets, which is true actually

[Anonymous No.9790743]

>>9790680
holy fucking SHIT those SHOES are INTENSELY RED

[Anonymous No.9790763]

>>9790680
Left image would look like the one on the right if played on a CRT since it boosts the brightness and colors. They just compensated.

[Anonymous No.9790775]

>>9790763
>they just compensated
no. they ported the game. this is just what happens. there shouldn't be any expectation that you are going to experience the product at the time of it's release. the next guy is going to bring up filters, then emulators, then using hardware, then looping back to the CRT. the fact of the matter is that the game was designed with relevant hardware of it's time and remastering or remaking the product always produces an imitation of the original vision. if you missed out then cool you can play the remaster. i dont buy this shit twice anymore even for conveniences sake.

[Anonymous No.9790816]

>>9790680
remakes never improve anything, don't ever encourage them to be made

[Anonymous No.9790842]

>>9790680
>a remaster or a remake is supposed to improve upon the original

Really now? 'cause I can't think of any example where that's the case

[Anonymous No.9790874]

I just read the two volumes of the Shippuu Tengoku Kaze no Klonoa manga. it was pretty funny! the artist knew how to make funny faces and know how to take advantage of the original style. the characters are simple in personality but it is because it is a comedy manga. It left me quite satisfied, even at the end Lolo confesses to Klonoa that she loves him. How he wishes they did more Klonoa stuff.
Like seriously, why did they have to cancel the Klonoa movie?!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.9791393]

Lolo

[Anonymous No.9791419]

does klonoa have a kloaca?

[Anonymous No.9791425]

>>9791419
Don't know. Do you have one?

[Anonymous No.9791621]

This thread

[Anonymous No.9791624]

>>9787082
Nintendie not trying to attack a non-Nintendo franchise, Impossible!

[Anonymous No.9791670]

>>9787991
The doors indicate if they're an entrance or exit with the direction of the arrow.
Pointing south means it was your entrance into the map, point north means its the exit.

[Anonymous No.9791686]

A Klonoa 3 would be nice but I'm guessing Phantasy Reverie didn't sell enough for them to think about it.

[Anonymous No.9791692]

>>9791686
Well, that and the original creator no longer works at Bamco. Even then, the game plots have a slight dose of drama and I don't know what kind of plot a third game would have.

[Anonymous No.9791696]

>>9791686
There are more spin-off titles than there are mainline entries.

Nearly nobody's played Moonlight Museum. The music is pretty barebones, I don't know if that's just WonderSwan in general though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CA91xwlBFg
It's charming for a little while but it wears thin with the slow pace of the game.

[Anonymous No.9791726]

>>9791393
she's one of my favourite characters in the series but what about Popka? he didn't do jackshit except scream the entire game.
why was he even in Klonoa's ring? wtf was his purpose?

[Anonymous No.9791737]

>>9790680
lol, even the Wii remake looks much better.
I don't know why everyone was shilling it.
it's always the same, Bamco does the bare minimum
>why did our series fail again?
series goes into obscurity and the cycle continues

[Anonymous No.9791742]

what did Klonoa mean by this?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dY_6jipjKyY

[Anonymous No.9791743]

>>9790680

[Anonymous No.9791754]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3BiCOUiLXw
This track is too good.

[Anonymous No.9792136]

>>9791670
I just realized this yesterday. Thank you for mentioning it. the game can be so confusing sometimes. there are doors that need a key to open, so you find a key and open a door and find another door. then you go back and no longer remember where you came from or where you have been. a map would be enough to solve so many headaches.

[Anonymous No.9792142]

>>9791686
Klonoa heroes doesn't follow the plot of the first two games but is more like an alternate universe, and it works very well!
I'm amazed at the amount of fanart I've found from the game. One would think that the game is not well remembered by fans in Japan, but it is quite the opposite!
if only the game had come out in the west....

[Anonymous No.9792145]

>>9792142
Forgot the pic

[Anonymous No.9792167]

I still don't understand how a klonoa game for psx comes out after a game for ps2 and one for gba came out. It's like Nintendo released more Mario games for the DS after releasing a couple of games for the 3DS.

[Anonymous No.9792182]

>>9792142
I played it when it got an English translation and honestly I thought it was pretty bland. Also the sound is kinda bad.

[Anonymous No.9792235]

>>9791742
Well two of those words have to be stepping wing?

[Anonymous No.9792309]

I wish they just let the series stay dead instead of rereleasing shittier "remasters" every decade, Bamco doesn't care and Klonoa 3 will never happen.

[Anonymous No.9793371]

>>9790816
Tomb Raider Anniversary > Tomb Raider

If you disagree you suck cock.

[Anonymous No.9793494]

>>9786653
>Klonoa Phantasy Reverie Series was a success right?
Sounds unlikely.

[Anonymous No.9793497]

>>9790680
The original PS2 version looks like a cheap dreamcast game though.

[Anonymous No.9794173]

>>9793371
Only the gameplay, the puzzles and levels are now retard proof and there's that bit of "Lara kills a human boo hoo" drama.

[Anonymous No.9794275]

>>9793497
>cheap
whatever you say, it was an early ps2 game, and I think that visuals still hold up today

[Anonymous No.9794342]

>>9794275
Klonoa's model still looks great, the rest of the game looks cheap.

[Anonymous No.9794356]

>>9791754
That certainly isn't the first thing that comes to mind when Phantomile OST gets mentioned.

[Anonymous No.9794372]

>>9793371
Tomb Raider and Anniversary seem like completely different games outside of generally similar story beats.
It's hard to compare them.
And I liked the original a lot more anyway.

[Anonymous No.9794820]

>>9790842
RE4 remake just came out and basically rendered the original obsolete

PS: if you're an autistic nostalgiafat (which is the only reason to disagree) you lose automatically and don't need to reply

[Anonymous No.9794923]

>klonoa gba (US) came out on the same day as 9/11
>klonoa remake came out on the same day as Abe's assassination
I am convinced that some sort of nuclear apocalypse will occur if they release the next game

[Anonymous No.9794960]

>>9786653
bought k2 back in the day and loved it. played the first and get to 6-2 and get filtered. dude...i could definitely go back and back but i dont know if i want to. i'd rather reply 2 over and over for max comfiness. k1 was comfy until 6-1 then 6-2 is even worse.

[Anonymous No.9795485]

>>9790842
REmake

[Anonymous No.9795635]

>>9794820
how so? what improvement did it do?

[Anonymous No.9795858]

Why can't Klonoa have as many games as Sonic? why doesn't namco give a shit for one of his best franchises?

[Anonymous No.9795994]

>>9795858
>Why can't Klonoa have as many games as Sonic?
Because it doesn't sell.

[Anonymous No.9796058]

>>9791743
I dont understand wtf is so hard about the artists for remasters just using the same colors/shades as the original. Like at what point do they look at the original textures and think "hmmm no this needs to be completely different"? Why dont they understand color theory? So frustrating. Same thing happened with Spyro remakes.

[Anonymous No.9796412]

>>9790842
Linda Cube Again/Kanzenban. Uncharted Waters' 5th gen remakes. All the recent Natsume remakes although Pocky and Rocky isn't really a straight up remake but it's still fantastic. Nier Replicant

[Anonymous No.9796468]

>>9786653
Buying a remaster in hopes for a new game is a foolish way to think, they say its to gauge interest in the series, but the company itself has no interest in making a new game if they aren't even confident enough in the series to begin with. They lost all the original talents for these franchises, whatever hands they fall into wont even have 1/10th of the original creators vision or understanding what made such a dead & dormant franchise loved by people for 2 decades. It's so fucking apparent when you look at and compare the original games to the remasters it's in hands that don't understand it.

Secondly, no amount of sales will ever be enough to please gaming industry giants, standards are unrealistically high, it could be a miserable flop that tricked a few people into buying it, or an astounding success that makes a ton of money, but all the money will just be put towards their big budget flagship games. SquareEnix is a prime example of this, they snowball all profits made from their good shit into giant box-office bombs like Marvels Avengers & Forspoken.

[Anonymous No.9796472]

[Anonymous No.9796474]

They took a Wii remake of the first game that was built from the ground up and somehow made it look worse on modern hardware, and that takes an incredible (lack of?) talent.

[Anonymous No.9796475]

Quite possibly my favorite fuckup

[Anonymous No.9796478]

They couldn't even hide the final boss models seams because they fucked up the shaders/textures that badly.

[Anonymous No.9796490]

>>9792167
Japan isn't as technically advanced as people believe, the misconception they're futuristic comes from the small lens over Tokyo which is like comparing the entire united states to LA or New York.

Japanese gamers are a hard sell on new consoles, and they still enjoy the last gen hardware perfectly fine, and the install base for the previous gen is often larger than the new until at least the half way point of its lifepsan, if it isn't a failure. In America a console is basically considered dead and discontinued the moment its successor comes out and retailers try to liquidize all stock of it asap.

Realistic answer is that it's a beach volleyball game and it took considerably less money to develop since the franchise is doomed to poor sales and eventually was downgraded to generic flat GBA games, when the most stand-out thing about the franchise was the beautifully crafted 2.5D levels.

[Anonymous No.9796605]

>>9789075
Stop covering him up!!

[Anonymous No.9796642]

Some1 please post the "lonely birthday comic edit" with him

[Anonymous No.9796913]

>>9796642

[Anonymous No.9797031]

Something about Klonoa and King of Sorrow...

[Anonymous No.9797069]

>>9796913
Thank you dear Anon - that was literally me 3 weeks ago

[Anonymous No.9797145]

>>9797069
Anon I...

[Anonymous No.9797636]

>>9797145
JK - there wasn't even a cake, only a crate of cheap breezers

[Anonymous No.9798064]

>>9796468
sad. because apparently the plan with the wii remake was that if it sold well they would release a new game. and the movie was proof that they did want to get more out of Klonoa. but in the end it all comes down to money.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190213003925/http://gaming.moe/?p=2894
"Personally, I'd like to make one, but I don't know how Bandai-Namco feels about that. When Bandai and Namco merged, the vice-president from Bandai at the time was a huge Klonoa fan, and he basically spearheaded the remake. We originally wanted to make an all-new Wii Klonoa, but our supervisor from the Bandai side thought that it would be too expensive. We ended up formulating a business plan: We'd “test the waters” with a remake of the first game, and if that did well, we'd port the second game, and then we'd move on to an all-new installment.If the remake sold well, we'd move ahead with development of the third game, and pump out the port in the meantime.
Unfortunately, the remake didn't sell well, so it all got scrapped."

[Anonymous No.9798132]

>>9786653
How is the remake? I played through half of the original and never returned to it. Is the remaster good? Or should I dig out the PS3 and go back to the original?

[Anonymous No.9798178]

>>9797636
>pic
What the fuck were they thinking?

[Anonymous No.9798183]

>>9798132
Play the originals, as you always should.

[Anonymous No.9798378]

>>9798064
Bandai were always cheap motherfuckers when it came to gaming

[Anonymous No.9798408]

>>9798064
I mean, if he wanted he could always start a kickstarter like the guys from Megaman, Castlevania and most recently, Suikoden, have done. At worst it could be MN9 2.0 or follow the fate of the games and only raise a fraction of its intended goal.

[Anonymous No.9798653]

>>9798408
I think the problem is the license. I imagine that those of bandai namco will be very strict with it. The sons of bitches won't give a shit for Klonoa, but to believe that they are going to let others earn money with the character is a lie.

[Anonymous No.9798668]

They should just make a cute Klonoa anime or something idk.

[Anonymous No.9798669]

>>9787289
>Klonoa is focused on solving puzzles.
At what point do you solve a puzzle in Klonoa 1?
The closest thing that comes to mind is the airship stage with the crystals but even then you weren't solving anything.

[Anonymous No.9798795]

>>9791393

[Anonymous No.9798814]

>>9798795

[Anonymous No.9798825]

>>9798178
I guess that someone *really* wanted him to look a little more like both Guntz and KoS and be more compatible with either

[Anonymous No.9798985]

>>9786659
>KRAKKA!
dats racis

[Anonymous No.9798987]

>>9787082
>The gameplay is a shittier Kirby
No, you see, it's like Kirby but better, because it asks you to use the grab and throw mechanics in a timely fashion so you can move forward and rewards you for it, where in kirby it's just there.
Klonoa is similar to Kirby, but better.

[Anonymous No.9798998]

>>9791742
Kek that song was one of the most memorable things about Klonoa 2. Funny to think back when I played it as a kid I thought this gibberish was actually Japanese.

[Anonymous No.9799036]

>>9798668
That got spiked. There was one in development.

[Anonymous No.9799119]

>>9791742
this is awesome.
every platformer needs to sing his own song in the game

[Anonymous No.9799125]

>>9798795
just leave her alone man

[Anonymous No.9799143]

>>9797031
that one pic where they share an onahole was my first fap to gay kemoshota

[Anonymous No.9799213]

>>9797031
>>9799143
I don't understand the ending.
Did the king of sorrow die at the end? if yes then how? he just disappeared.
what about the pic related, was that a flash back? or was he reincarnated?
I need Klonoa scholars asap

[Anonymous No.9799376]

>>9799213
The majority of the pictures in the ending are after the game if I remember correctly, so yeah he likely reincarnated.
>then how
The preceding boss fight, like Joka and Ghadius and so on.

[Anonymous No.9799543]

>>9799213
The emotion of Sorrow was re-integrated into Lunatea. Therefore, the King of Sorrow had to be reincarnated to match the new-found emotion.

I guess this means that he'll be a Priest in La-Lakoosha as the new Claire.

[Anonymous No.9799617]

>>9798669
I mean things like "you must activate this button and then this other one to open a door that lets you advance to the next level".
Kirby has some of this, but it's not the main focus. Kirby is more about fighting enemies as you progress through the levels.

[Anonymous No.9799627]

>>9796490
>generic flat GBA games
Personally, I think that the GBA games are very well done, despite the limitations of the console. Klonoa heroes especially is quite SOUL even though a lot of people don't like the gameplay. It's hard for me to listen to this and not believe that it was a game created with love:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=72Hq72TE2G4

[Anonymous No.9799897]

>>9787082
>>9787289
>>9798669
>>9799617
I wouldn't say Kirby and Klonoa are the same. The only similarities is that Kirby 64 and Klonoa are both visually 2.5D with cool set designs.

Kirby is about variety and choice of how you want to play, everything can be done as a powerless Kirby for extra difficulty, or you can just mog it all with whatever power you want.

Klonoa has nothing outside his base wind bullet, only sometimes, especially in 2, will enemies provide you some extra advantage when you use them as a jump or throw, and have special functionality for solving a puzzle where they endlessly spawn.

You do exactly what the game tells you with Klonoa, while Kirby leaves it to the players choice.

[Anonymous No.9799916]

>>9799627
To me it's just not Klonoa because I played the first 2. This is a top-down zelda clone. It's feels too much of a departure from the core of what made the franchise even stand out to me in the first place. It's obvious they wanted to make something more grandiose than GBA game, but the choice came down to "make a GBA game or make nothing."

[Anonymous No.9799943]

>>9786653
i want to grab that thing by it's faggot ears and do the mk3 jax gotcha move

[Anonymous No.9800051]

>>9799916
>"it's a Zelda clone"
>"it's a Kirby clone"
Why do people have to compare so much? it's like me saying, "Super Mario Bros. is just a clone of Montezuma's reverge" and implying that that's even an argument.

[Anonymous No.9800059]

>>9799897
>Kirby leaves it to the players choice.
>In games like Kirby 64 or dream land 3 you have to have a specific ability to solve the puzzles that give you the key to be able to fight the final boss.
And i mean. Don't a lot of people complain that Kirby games are too easy?
I like Kirby, but I don't understand why you have to keep comparing Klonoa with Kirby.

[Anonymous No.9800108]

>>9799916
Well, considering Namco, Klonoa Heroes would be more like a Legend of Valkyrie clone than a Legend of Zelda clone.

[Anonymous No.9800217]

>>9799943
I want to do something else while grabbing his ears

[Anonymous No.9800253]

>>9800217
I want to do a little something with his ears.

[Anonymous No.9800431]

>>9786653
So anybody else read "Castle of Dreams Endless Game"? (i.e. that one story written by the creator a while back)?
I went through it with DeepL. Was an interesting read, if not what I was expecting (it leans heavily into the "Klonoa is an avatar for the player" aspect).

[Anonymous No.9800460]

>>9800217
>>9800253

I want to hang you both from a noose made from Klonoa's ears.

[Anonymous No.9800467]

>>9800051
It has to be zoomers who don't know there were hundreds of platformers.

[Anonymous No.9800479]

I love the concept art of Klonoa as an ancient robot thing before it was decided on the current direction. And how it started as a Spriggan game.

[Anonymous No.9800740]

>>9800431
I did not know anything about this. thanks for introducing me to it!

[Anonymous No.9801117]

>>9800460
Best post in the thread

[Anonymous No.9801559]

>>9799125
>white knights

[Anonymous No.9802172]

>>9801559
at the end of the second game Klonoa left her.
so it's up to ne now to protect her

[Anonymous No.9803935]

Bump

[Anonymous No.9803939]

>>9802172
ok Anon she is waiting for you in your dreams. turn off the computer and find her.

[Anonymous No.9804067]

I just finished the Klonoa 2 Dream Champ tournament for the second time. The first time I had it was when I was a kid, and I really didn't remember it being that satisfying.

[Anonymous No.9805764]

Kuronoa

[Anonymous No.9805880]

>>9798178
Pretty sure it was "We want the Sonic audience".

[Anonymous No.9806020]

>>9805880
does Sonic even sell well after the Dreamcast games?

[Anonymous No.9807293]

>>9806020
He sell enough to hace his own movie.
Poor klonoa.....

[Anonymous No.9807641]

>>9807293
A Klonoa movie wouldn't even need to spend half the movie as an origin story like the Sonic movie.
Just call him the Dream Traveler - he travels into dreams to save them, from nightmares.
And then after that blurb, off to adventure.

[Anonymous No.9808235]

>>9792142
Klonoa Heroes is the only game were Klonoa receives a genuine happy end after all the shit he has to go through.

[Anonymous No.9808475]

>>9808235
Klonoa 2: Dream Champ Tournament also has a pretty happy ending.

[Anonymous No.9810364]

Bump

[Anonymous No.9810427]

I liked the first two games a lot and was surprised how much the endings affected me. The bittersweet ending of the second game felt really beautiful.

Then in the opening of a GBA game I tried he just meets up with the friends again and they’re just sort of happy about it like it’s no big deal, I felt it cheapened the ending of 2 so much I got mad and didnt like the game from the start. I played only the first two levels before giving up on the game since it felt bland without the 2.5D gameplay and beautiful environments of the other games.

I still like the first two a lot, but that experience soured me on playing more of the series.

[Anonymous No.9810658]

>>9810427
have you read the comic? >>9789075

[Anonymous No.9810674]

>>9810658
I have not.

[Anonymous No.9810721]

>>9810658
what timeline does the comic take place in? is it like a sequel to the the second game?
because hewpow being in it is bullshit

[Anonymous No.9810745]

>>9810427
Try the wonderswan game it takes place and was made between 1 and 2

[Anonymous No.9811276]

>>9810674
>>9810721
the comic is a sequel to the first two games, and has a good justification for Klonoa to meet the others. In addition, the way in which the reunion with Lolo occurs is quite beautiful.
Notice that the comic is incomplete. the author never finished it.
>>9810745
Thewonderswan game is a prequel of the first game. I doubt Anon will like it if she didn't just gba games.

[Anonymous No.9811280]

>>9810721
here you can read it. It is short since the author could not continue it because they closed the page where it was uploaded:
https://klonoa.the-comic.org/

[Anonymous No.9812159]

I heard the ending of Klonoa 1 in the recent remake was made even more sad. Can anons say if so?

[Anonymous No.9812205]

>>9812159
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7QymEqyCrU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbR39xFjOA8

Phantasy Reverie is a very strange hybrid of the original voice audio (not even audio remastered) intermixed with the Wiimake Phantomile dub, with the Wiimake's cutscenes as a foundation for the camera angles, but more PS1-accurate model characters on the same wireframes as the Wiimake.

So you feel the flatness of the Wiimake cutscenes meshed with different and arguably better models than the Wiimake, with a mix of bitcrunched audio of the PS1 original with the completely redone Wiimake audio for cutscenes.

The part that makes it feel more sad, from what I can feel, is that instead of the PS1 audio for the ending, they used the Wiimake's screams when Klonoa gets sucked in and Huepow tries to stop him. Klonoa and Huepow's VAs were on point for those screams in the Wiimake, and it was an excellent choice to use them in Phantasy Reverie.

[Anonymous No.9812225]

>>9812159
>>9812205
I believe part of it is also that the PS1 ending had Huepow smile bittersweetly after Klonoa left, which was apparently not in the storyboards. The Wii version removes the smile and the Phantasy Reverie version follows suit.

[Anonymous No.9812239]

>>9812225
Yeah I noticed they removed Huepow smiling at the end, which is definitely better.

[Anonymous No.9813394]

>mfw only finding out about the Popka Jump AFTER I nearly went insane trying to cheese one of the last collectibles in Lunatea's Veil

[Anonymous No.9814918]

>>9812239
Why? It shows that Huepow are at peace and has that "Thank you..for everything." smile.

[Anonymous No.9815328]

>>9814918
I remember reading somewhere (forgot where) that the Wiimake and Phantasy Reverie's Huepow not smiling and just staring out into the distance was more in line with what the game's director originally wanted in Door to Phantomile. The director just didn't show it in his original storyboards, and he finally got a chance to correct that detail with the later Wii remake, and that later got carried over into Phantasy Reverie.

The tearful smile is good, but I think fulfilling the wishes of the director and letting them tell the story exactly as they want it to be told is also very important in a game like this.

[Anonymous No.9815392]

>>9814918
>>9815328
https://klonoa-at-blog.tumblr.com/post/169646063868/klonoa-chronicles-23
>However, there is only one part of the ending that I regret. It is the scene where Huepow smiles up at the sky after Klonoa disappears into the void. In my storyboard, there was no smiling scene. When I asked Yoshimizu-kun about it, he said that he wanted a little bit of relief because the ending was so sad.
>After the release of the game, I received a lot of letters with things like “I was very impressed” but as time passed fans began to spread jokes about Huepow being “black-hearted”. “Heh heh, all according to plan.” or something like that. When I heard of these jokes, I certainly saw that too.
>I regretted that the smile there should have been more of a contorted face, trying to force a smile, but it didn’t work because he couldn’t stop crying. I regretted that I should have made the smile more like that. To be continued.
And while I'm at it,
>>9798178
Apparently it was a localization attempt.
https://klonoa-at-blog.tumblr.com/post/175045018117/when-namco-was-considering-localizing-klonoa-for

[Anonymous No.9815452]

>>9815392
>Apparently it was a localization attempt.
I remember participating in that survey because someone made a thread on 4chan about it to get other anons to fill out the survey against the change.
So I marked that i liked the non Sonic redesign more. The survey also had an open text box for comments, and I put in there "Where is his Pac-Man hat? Where is his big ears for hovering? This isn't Klonoa at all."
And they actually listened to fan input. Which I am really happy for.

[Anonymous No.9816619]

so what was grandpa's deal?
did huepow create him?
did he create an entire replica of Klonoa's species?
(this also raises the question if Klonoa's species is even real, or maybe Klonoa is the last of his species)
and spent years with him, all just to convince him to save phantomile?
what an asshole
the ending doesn't make any sense

[Anonymous No.9816632]

>>9813394
are you referring to the easter egg where popka appears at the title screen instead of Klonoa if you hold L1 or R1 ?
if that's the case then what does the collectibles have to do with it

[Anonymous No.9816646]

>>9816619
It really was all fake. If I remember all this right it was inspired by Blade Runner and Klonoa's name comes frome Clone and we are dreaming ourselves as Klonoa which is why our names show up at the end on the journal. (But so does the ring so maybe it was all real? in an ambiguous childhood wonder way noy schizo way.) and the sequel was us coping with the sorrow of how 1 ended in another dream.

[Anonymous No.9817292]

>>9816632
Popka Jump is the Player 2 option to give Klonoa an extra double jump for doing an extra boost for a triple jump.
Player 2 presses start at any time to follow Klonoa as Popka, and presses square to give him a boost. Obviously, this is a blessing for some tricky jumps to get out of pits at the last second, for collecting hard to reach Momett Doll parts.
Or Player 2 can be a dick and spam square every few seconds to fuck with Player 1's movement and jumps until Player 1 beats Player 2 with their own controller out of frustration.

[Anonymous No.9818639]

I actually beat 2 last night, after having nostalgia for it from when I first played as a youngin.
Back then, I didn't get farther than Volk, but after that, the game opens up a ton, so I'm glad I pushed through recently, because the rest of the game really captivated me (despite recycling quite a few levels). Especially loved the feel and BGM of Kingdom of Sorrow.
What's the better way to play 1? Wii or the remaster? I read the thread, and it sounds like there are pros and cons for both. I guess I could emulate the original too (right?).

[Anonymous No.9818647]

>>9786653
I just learned the guy who created this thing also made the original Ninja Gaiden games.

[Anonymous No.9818721]

>>9792167
psone sold like 28 million in Europe, Latin America, middle-east and Asia. So they keep releasing games in early 2000s

[Anonymous No.9818729]

>>9818639
>What's the better way to play 1? Wii or the remaster? I read the thread, and it sounds like there are pros and cons for both. I guess I could emulate the original too (right?).
Play the original, then try the others to see the pros and cons of the Wii and remaster for yourself. As one pro/con for one of the editions might not even be a pro/con for you. Finding the right one that suits you the most is key.

[Anonymous No.9818751]

>>9786653
I take a look at this character and I think, yup this was designed to appeal to autistic faggots

[Anonymous No.9818754]

>>9818647
And you can tell by the vertical platforming that is prevalent in Klonoa 1 and 2.

[Anonymous No.9818854]

>>9818729
>Play the original
As in Emulate? Because there's no way I'm paying $300 for a copy of the actual original lol

[Anonymous No.9818870]

>>9818854
Yeah, emulate it.

It's unfortunate that you can't get it on PSOne Classics in the PSN anymore, though. It was a convenient way to get my technologically inept family to play it on the PS3 over a decade ago.

[Anonymous No.9819032]

>>9818754
Gonna try out those. I absolutely love the original NG games.

[Anonymous No.9819067]

>>9818870
Gotcha, yeah I wish that were still an option too.

[Anonymous No.9820152]

>>9789075
>Hitoshi Ariga
mite b cool

[Anonymous No.9820157]

>>9791743
>TFW that one serevely obsessed dude who made gay porn of you getting raped is still doing it almost 18 years later

[Anonymous No.9820204]

>>9820157
If you mean syourinbonzu, he moved on to drawing female Pokemon, and only occasionally does he do a repost of his gay Klonoa art.
I guess money and hope ran out after all these years, even for someone like him.