>Dude, let's take Gunstar but make everything about it shittier You're supposed to IMPROVE on the original when you develop a sequel, Treasure...

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Anonymous Fri Mar 24 00:38:37 2023 No.9765164 [Reply] [Original]

>Dude, let's take Gunstar but make everything about it shittier
You're supposed to IMPROVE on the original when you develop a sequel, Treasure...

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 05:35:14 2023 No.9765768

The whole thing was probably thrown out unfinished.
And I'm not just talking about those sprites of all those other Sega games found in the ROM - even stuff that made it into the game seems unfinished like lots of bosses having glaring blind spots and barely any attacks, especially compared to their console counterparts, or don't even have any attacks or means to damage you at all like Bravoo Man.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 08:39:49 2023 No.9766039 >Future Heroes Kek. Jewrop is so fucking gay.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 18:49:32 2023 No.9767243 >>9766039 Meh, 'Super' makes it sound too much like Snezz shite anyway

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 19:21:27 2023 No.9767350 >>9767243 >bong, dan, and aussie Med

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 19:32:02 2023 No.9767379 >>9765768 >The whole thing was probably thrown out unfinished. basically. >let's make what was already made but a sequel and better! >oh no, this is actually a lot of work!! >whatever, just send it it happens all the time

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 00:41:56 2023 No.9768112 >>9765768 >>9767379 Serves them right for going back on their "We're too good to develop sequels" philosophy and reason for quitting Konami. Fuck Trashure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 00:46:25 2023 No.9768126 >>9765164 Dude it’s a mobile game, they’re always worse

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 03:22:03 2023 No.9768474 I think FE creator a joke?

Anonymous Sat Mar 25 03:34:43 2023 No.9768492

>>9765164
>The plot is both a sequel and a remake of the first game.
>The game's story is different based on difficulty and character selected. Each story is incongruent with the others even though you are doing the same levels and bosses.
>Red is really androgenous, so much so that people only realised her gender after the protagonists proclaimed their love for each other in one of the endings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 05:12:47 2023 No.9768694 >>9765164 sex with red

Anonymous Sat Mar 25 05:27:40 2023 No.9768727

>>9765164
The player sprite ratio is far off. But some how I find AstroBoy Omega Factor ok. Maybe because they took the time to polish the game. Also it is highly repetitive almost too many boss fights, nothing really clever just beat em up. But some how OmegaFactor is generally good IMO and SuperHeroes meh.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 06:37:05 2023 No.9768858 I remember playing it as a kid and i quite liked it, so all the negative posts surprise me . The gameplay is faster and tighter than Astroboy and overall while not perfect it delivered some good fun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 09:34:49 2023 No.9769110 >>9766039 >american calling someone a jew kino

Anonymous Sat Mar 25 17:54:17 2023 No.9770226

>>9768858
If you haven't played the Mega Drive version, you should, then you'll understand. GBA Gunstar has worse gameplay (why did they get rid of throwing, weapon-mixing and co-op?), worse level design with too many gimmicks, worse sounding audio and worse aesthetics (dat shitty soulless nu-anime art style). Even if the game'd actually been finished, it still would have been vastly inferior to OG Gunstar.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 18:42:50 2023 No.9770353 File: 23 KB, 221x220, AdvancedGuardianHeroes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fuck you, I liked it. Then, I eventually played the original, which was honestly superior in ways I didn't expect. Fuck you, I still like it despite that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 19:43:24 2023 No.9770481 >>9769110 You've been sucking us and our money off ever since NATO existed, brownie.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 22:54:03 2023 No.9770958 >>9770353 The worst thing that game did was get rid of the Street Fighter-style command inputs. I know it's a handheld, but why did they have to simplify the gameplay so much? Also parrying is a cringe as shit mechanic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 22:55:56 2023 No.9770959 >>9765164 Even shittier Gunstar Heroes, which it was going to be due to that shittier resolution of the screen alone, is still better than 95% of the library.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 22:57:27 2023 No.9770962 >>9768492 I had no fucking clue Red was a girl until about 2 years ago. Blew my mind. Always though she was a genki as fuck generic main character boy. Shonen protag type.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 23:21:22 2023 No.9771026 >>9765164 >Gunstar Future Heroes Kek. Jew-rop is so fucking gay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 23:37:02 2023 No.9771058 >seething hate for Treasure Schizo or memelord? I'm convinced there's no in between. If you like retro action games, how can you even think they're worse than 'okay'? I legitimately don't get you weird, weird people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 23:40:28 2023 No.9771068 Do some people just exist to hate on anything renowned? Man, oxygen and cake fucking SUCK. Fucking NORMIES.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 23:43:21 2023 No.9771079 >>9771068 >Do some people just exist to hate on anything renowned? It's called modern, continental Europe: the land of soi and effeminate backbiting and complaining.

Anonymous Sat Mar 25 23:45:16 2023 No.9771095

>>9770226
Most of that is down to the platform. No one plays coop action games on GBA. Shut up. No one does. GBA has shitty sound baked in. Even games with fantastic OSTs like the Wario games and Mother 3 are gimped. There's less resolution and screen space to play with. For a GBA run and gun it's pretty fucking good. Name two better run and guns on the platform.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 00:11:07 2023 No.9771184 >>9770959 >Even shittier Gunstar Heroes, which it was going to be due to that shittier resolution of the screen alone, is still better than 95% of the library. Sadly true. Are there even any other run 'n guns on the GBA that aren't ports?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 00:14:18 2023 No.9771192 >>9771184 I'd like to know if there are good ones regardless. Plenty of westoid license-trash I'm sure.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 00:41:32 2023 No.9771263 OP maybe I agree with you but the way you "communicate" makes me think you're still a braindead piece of shit NPC. Kill yourself ty

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 00:48:40 2023 No.9771280 >>9765164 >Making a shit game shitter I find that hard to believe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 01:09:34 2023 No.9771353 File: 1.65 MB, 934x960, 2292688-cover.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mogs your kusoge

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 04:45:57 2023 No.9771783 >>9771058 >noooooooooooooo you must unconditionally praise everything presented by Treasure Fanboys... were a mistake...

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 05:01:19 2023 No.9771808 >>9771353 only downside is no 2 player, then again at our ages all games are 1 player

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 05:34:19 2023 No.9771864 >>9768694 >not Yellow or Pink nibba you gay

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 07:01:12 2023 No.9771959 File: 1.99 MB, 846x628, Bravoo Man.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9765768 Seriously, what the FUCK were they thinking?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 07:02:17 2023 No.9771962 File: 1.73 MB, 628x406, Kusoo Man.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9771959

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 07:16:48 2023 No.9771985 >>9771959 Skill issue

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 07:27:13 2023 No.9771998 >>9765164 it is a GBA game, lol. What do you expect? Just appreciate it as a weird little spin-off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 08:31:13 2023 No.9772075 File: 151 KB, 1242x1080, 1676215625628598.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9771962 what's happening here, cheat mode activated?

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 10:07:11 2023 No.9772157
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>>9772075
The thing has no attacks, AI or anything in the GBA game.
https://youtu.be/Wh5gOyWCCXE?t=736
Back then I thought that it was something like in the original game where changing the difficulty would change its attack patterns, only in a more extreme way here, but no - it does NOTHING, no matter the skill level.
Even the Pinky Roader afterwards does nothing but jump around while you can jump on it and just fire away.
Hell, even the final boss, Golden Silver, does nothing but stand around despite having a full sprite sheet in the ROM. The game must've been rushed as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 11:40:13 2023 No.9772240 File: 726 KB, 1453x986, 86367387_p0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9771864 I think tomboys are cute.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 12:20:11 2023 No.9772290 >>9772240 >American localisation Japanese Red is a trap.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 12:46:09 2023 No.9772332 >>9770353 I know this feel. I was honestly baffled at how badly it was relieved when I was younger/

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 13:02:54 2023 No.9772358 >>9772290 as usual the japs give eagle land the better version of a game

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 13:02:55 2023 No.9772359 >>9772290 yeah i would rather fuck a tomboy than a trap

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 13:44:11 2023 No.9772439 >>9772075 >nu-gender bend Go back.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 14:56:53 2023 No.9772580 >>9772290 No, she's not, this is a meme by trannies and fags. She's referred to as female in a japanese interview. Japanese fans all overwhelmingly acknowledge her as female (look up any fan art of the game, they always show her with tits).

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 14:57:54 2023 No.9772581 >>9772580 *JP fan art, that is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 14:59:32 2023 No.9772583 >>9772580 You’re fake new

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 15:06:01 2023 No.9772594 >>9772583 >rainbow flag is mad that he can no longer claim a character.

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 15:12:30 2023 No.9772603
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>>9772240
Hell this very piece of japanese fan art right here tags her as a girl.

Honestly I always hate when something gets written on fucking tv tropes and then all the retards run around repeating it until it becomes common nerd knowledge, when you can look up that it's fake and gay in 5 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 18:27:07 2023 No.9772940 >>9772240 agreed

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 20:23:36 2023 No.9773165 [DELETED]

>>9771998
>it is a GBA game, lol. What do you expect? Just appreciate it as a weird little spin-off.
No excuse, the Game Gear got a great port of Gunstar Heroes (arguably better than the 16-bit version in some aspects). This is just Treasure shitting out a worse product because they just didn't get a fuck, yet people still eat it up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:28:24 2023 No.9773439 >>9773165 It is not better than the 16bit version in any way, and not better than Super Heroes. Fuck off you contrarian lamer. You people are a disease.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:30:33 2023 No.9773448 >>9771783 I just don't get the unhinged hatred for them. They make okay to pretty good games. What's to hate here except for their truly bottom tier shit?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:31:37 2023 No.9773452 >>9771353 No it fucking doesn't lol, hipster dumbass. It doesn't have a fraction of the rewarding and frictional feel of Gunstar. I bet you played the 50hz version at Euro-cucked speed too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:32:01 2023 No.9773454 >>9773448 It's seriously just one really loud obsessed dude.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:32:38 2023 No.9773459 Was hoping for a (You) on a better run and gun on GBA by now. Minimum requirements: not a port.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:33:49 2023 No.9773460 >>9773454 No, it's that guy and a bunch of (You)fishing copycats in his wake. It's childish absurdism.

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 23:10:54 2023 No.9773563 [DELETED]

>>9765164
The real reason this turned out shit is because Sega-Sammy is incapable of making anything good. Sega was only good when they were making their own hardware still, once they went 3rd-party it all went to shit for them.

>inb4 but muh Yakuza
Nope, those games are shit too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 23:15:29 2023 No.9773575 >>9773563 Your opinion is invalid

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 23:21:01 2023 No.9773589 [DELETED]

>>9773563
This is the most plausible theory, which explains why Astroboy Omega Factor turned out good, seeing as it was made before SEGA got bought out and raped by Sammy (came out 2003, one year before Old Sega's demise).

Anything related to post-2004 Sega is cursed and doomed to be janky, glitchy, rushed, horrendously inferior garbage.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 23:23:44 2023 No.9773591 >>9773589 If a game has no jank it's shit. Can you name me one game without jank that's a masterpiece?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 23:54:15 2023 No.9773657 >>9773591 I think as long as the jank doesn't affect normal gameplay too badly, it's ok. But the problem with Modern Sega is the jank is so extreme that it ruins the games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:10:10 2023 No.9774030 >>9773589 But Super Gunstar Heroes is better than Astroboy tho???

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:31:50 2023 No.9774165 >>9773459 Turok Evolution despite being a "port" is completely different than the main game and is a run and gun. It's okay but pretty difficult. Honestly there really isn't much for the GBA that is worth playing IMO.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 13:57:37 2023 No.9774939 >>9774165 >western licensed run and gun Oh boy I just know this'll be great.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 13:59:09 2023 No.9774940 Based australia-kun forever obsessed with Treasure and Nintendo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 15:21:55 2023 No.9775097 >>9774939 >>9774165 I tried it. it's actually not so bad, thank you

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 18:51:41 2023 No.9775471 [DELETED]

~ Top 10 Trashiest Treasure Games ~

#10: Alien Soldier (Treasure's boss-rushiest gimmick game, the little level design it does have is pretty much a complete joke; controls are fucking garbage)
#9: Sin & Punishment (gimmickily turns into a sidescroller on the final level; gimmicky bosses like the Tetris one or Missile Command one; tries to incorporate jumping in a rail shooter but the platforming designs blow dick)
#8: Astro Boy - Omega Factor (basic bitch bmup gameplay which has to be expanded via a lame collectathon gimmick; boring filler shmup gimmick segments almost break up the inane bmup monotony)
#7: Silhouette Mirage (polarity system makes the game feel too contrived leading to some of the most annoyingly gimmicky boss / level designs in Trashure history)
#6: Radiant Silvergun (scoring system makes it feel too much like a puzzler, punishing you for killing an enemy that isn't the right colour; cringey jarpig elements; like Alien Soldier, too many bosses and too little worthwhile level designs)
#5: Ikaruga (combine RSG's gimmicky scoring with SilMir's gimmicky polarity shield, double your gimmicks double your fun!... if only you COULD have fun playing a Trashure title...)
#4: Dynamite Headdy (over half the Scenes in the game flat-out suck, lacking proper level designs that focus not on platforming but instead on fighting bosses or shitty gimmicks like turning into a shmup or showing off a 3D floor; also the shittiest bonus rounds conceived for a scotformer)
#3: Gunstar Heroes (Dice Palace consists of braindead puzzles and worthless mini-bosses; second to last level turns into yet another terrible shmup gimmick section; final level isn't a real level, but just another lousy boss rush)
#2: Gunstar Super Heroes (takes Gunstar but makes everything about it shittier, most notably the inclusion of horrible "homages" to several SEGA classics)
#1: Mischief Makers (Olympics is a marathon of retarded mini-games, plus many more shitty gimmicks in this overrated kusoge)

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 18:52:52 2023 No.9775474 >australia-kun has logged on

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 18:57:18 2023 No.9775481 >>9773459 Lilo and Stitch

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 19:52:41 2023 No.9775626 >>9772603 >Japanese listen to localize crap Sad state of nippon

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 19:53:47 2023 No.9775628 >>9772594 >retarded for pretending that shit sounds of projecting

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 19:56:07 2023 No.9775635 >>9775474 >>9774940 Nickname of TheDeviantPro?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 20:27:57 2023 No.9775701 File: 1.91 MB, 806x1127, star_successor.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9765164 >You're supposed to IMPROVE on the original when you develop a sequel, Treasure... Say no more...

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 20:59:37 2023 No.9775761 >>9775701 >waggleshit lol, no

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 22:40:17 2023 No.9775983

Gunstar Heroes metascore: 89
Gunstar Super Heroes metacsore: 83

Doesn't reek of a game that's notably worse than the original. Hell, the originals score is likely inflated by fewer reviews fueled by nostalgia/hype. Seeing as Super existed during the era when metascores were a thing its rating is likely more accurate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 00:21:26 2023 No.9776201 >>9775983 How about actually playing the games and determining their quality for yourself instead of listening to the plebian unwashed masses who don't know shit from shine-ola?

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 00:24:31 2023 No.9776209
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>Treasure doing anything right
What the fuck is wrong with the millennial autists on this board that worships that c- coke addict company. All their games suck by princess crown and bangai-o (the first one, the DS one is fucking AWFUL)

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 00:43:36 2023 No.9776245 [DELETED]

~ Top 10 Trashiest Treasure Games ~

#10: Alien Soldier (Treasure's boss-rushiest gimmick game, the little level design it does have is pretty much a complete joke; controls are fucking garbage)
#9: Sin & Punishment (gimmickily turns into a sidescroller on the final level; gimmicky bosses like the Tetris one or Missile Command one; tries to incorporate jumping in a rail shooter but the platforming designs blow dick)
#8: Astro Boy - Omega Factor (basic bitch bmup gameplay which has to be expanded via a lame collectathon gimmick; boring filler shmup gimmick segments almost break up the inane bmup monotony)
#7: Silhouette Mirage (polarity system makes the game feel too contrived leading to some of the most annoyingly gimmicky boss / level designs in Trashure history)
#6: Radiant Silvergun (scoring system makes it feel too much like a puzzler, punishing you for killing an enemy that isn't the right colour; cringey jarpig elements; like Alien Soldier, too many bosses and too little worthwhile level designs)
#5: Ikaruga (combine RSG's gimmicky scoring with SilMir's gimmicky polarity shield, double your gimmicks double your fun!... if only you COULD have fun playing a Trashure title...)
#4: Dynamite Headdy (over half the Scenes in the game flat-out suck, lacking proper level designs that focus not on platforming but instead on fighting bosses or shitty gimmicks like turning into a shmup or showing off a 3D floor; also the shittiest bonus rounds conceived for a scotformer)
#3: Gunstar Heroes (Dice Palace consists of braindead puzzles and worthless mini-bosses; second to last level turns into yet another terrible shmup gimmick section; final level isn't a real level, but just another lousy boss rush)
#2: Gunstar Super Heroes (takes Gunstar but makes everything about it shittier, most notably the inclusion of horrible "homages" to several SEGA classics)
#1: Mischief Makers (Olympics is a marathon of retarded mini-games, plus many more shitty gimmicks in this overrated kusoge)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 00:57:14 2023 No.9776271 >>9765164 still the best thing to come from the sega dumping off their properties to thq for trash gba games thing

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 01:01:18 2023 No.9776273 >>9776209 Princess Crown isn't a Treasure game, dumbass. Great argument.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 01:06:23 2023 No.9776282

>>9776209
You are a retard.
Bangai-O ludo masterpiece,
improved by Missile Fury on 360
Alien Soldier
Rocket Knight
Gunstar Heroes
Mischief Maker
Ikaruga
Radiant Silvergun
Guardian Heroes
Sin and Punishment
Sin and Punishment Star Sucessor
they are great and just didn't have enough time to fully develop the GBA games

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 02:12:49 2023 No.9776409

>>9775626
Pretty sure the devs referred to her as female in a jp magazine interview around / pre-release. Pretty sure there's also zero basis for her being male in the jp script besides some autist saying there was one less line of dialogue or something in the jp script and running around writing that she's a man on tv tropes and shit.

Sorry tranny, she was always a cute tomboy in the canon, original Japanese script. Dilate harder.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 02:23:33 2023 No.9776428
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>>9776282
Ludo?
That game is nothing but the first one with tweaks so I got a re-release just like how things got republished on PSP if they had minor new tweaks.

Doesn't count
The rest are total utter fucking stupid crap that is flimsy and you can not return to like Streets of Rage, Sonic, Guilty Gear, Jet Set Radio, etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 02:26:48 2023 No.9776430 >>9776209 >a room temperature IQ /v/ tourist. These can get along with auster.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 08:16:08 2023 No.9777001 >>9772603 >tv tropes Are those faggots still seething about Lotte no Omocha?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 08:17:14 2023 No.9777003 >>9772290 Just because americans are obsessed with faggots it doesn't mean that their fanfics are canon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 08:19:43 2023 No.9777009 >>9776428 Brain damaged or just shit taste in general?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 09:44:36 2023 No.9777091 >>9776273 Maybe he's thinking of Guardian Heroes, which is another Sega Saturn hack 'n slash game

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 10:14:09 2023 No.9777117 >>9777009 Probably both.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:10:14 2023 No.9777249
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>>9772580
>She's referred to as female in a japanese interview.
I don't doubt that Super's Red is supposed to be female, but definitely the final design was made more androgenous. Also, I seem to recall an interview with a designer back in the day being asked why that is, and he said "sorry, I cannot say," almost as if they were toying with making her an effeminate guy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:27:03 2023 No.9777291 File: 230 KB, 980x1308, traysore.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9776282 An anon recently figured out that just about everything decent past Bangai-O was co-developed, not solo-developed.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 13:22:45 2023 No.9777404

>>9777291
>An anon
Why do you always speak in 3rd person?
Anyway, yeah some of these games were assisted by Sega or Nintendo, but the main director/programmers were Treasure. The role of the other companies was more that of the producers, the ones who had the money.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:18:03 2023 No.9777557 >>9777404 Why do you keep confusing publishers with developers?

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:31:07 2023 No.9777578
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>>9772580
play devil's advocate here
>She's referred to as female in a japanese interview.
Which one, specifically?
>Japanese fans all overwhelmingly acknowledge her as female (look up any fan art of the game, they always show her with tits).
Doesn't mean anything, the majority of Japanese Kirby fans think he's a girl iirc, what matters is what the devs/company says.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:04:28 2023 No.9777642 [DELETED]

Treasure was the WayForward of Japan. They could develop stylish looking games with fancy and impressive graphical effects, but the game design is extremely lacking and poor, and they often need assistance to make something truly good (see Contra 4 in WayForward's case, or Gradius V in Treasure's case).

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 16:43:42 2023 No.9777886 >>9776409 >Sorry tranny This projection

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 17:34:46 2023 No.9778023

>>9777291
Most of this does not seem to be listed as co-developed including some of the all time greats like Radiant Silvergun. Also you're seriously telling me that Sin and Punishment was the way it was because Nintendo? Treasure is the reason the game didn't suck total ass to begin with. What a weird way to try to "own" Treasure

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 17:36:32 2023 No.9778029 >>9777642 >but the game design is extremely lacking and poor Wrong

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:42:23 2023 No.9778205

>>9778023
>Most of this does not seem to be listed as co-developed including some of the all time greats like Radiant Silvergun.
Radiant Silvergun released a year before Bangai-O. Might wanna re-read that.
>What a weird way to try to "own" Treasure
Not even "owning." It's just a basic observation for people who feel like their output has definitely changed since the 90's.
/vr/ appears to be entrenched too deeply with that weird "Trashure" anon lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 19:02:19 2023 No.9778254 >>9776409 You will never be girl gamer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 19:19:32 2023 No.9778318 >>9778023 >Also you're seriously telling me that Sin and Punishment was the way it was because Nintendo? Star Fox 64 is better than any game Trashure has ever shat out in their irrelevant, pathetic existence.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 19:33:17 2023 No.9778365 >>9778318 >the "Trashure" guy was a butthurt Nincel with a grudge all along who seemingly hates them because they preferred putting more good games on Sega's platforms to Nintendo's holy shit lol

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 19:47:48 2023 No.9778405 [DELETED]

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>>9778365
The trashure guy is australiakun and nintendo is like his number 1 enemy.
But he often falseflags just to shitpost, for example, he falseflags as a Sega fan even though he also hates Sega, or any other japanese company.
He only likes spectrum and other britputers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 20:29:01 2023 No.9778530 >>9777009 >>9777117 >no rebuttal Utter state of Trashure losers.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 20:36:17 2023 No.9778543 [DELETED]

~ Top 10 Trashiest Treasure Games ~

#10: Alien Soldier (Treasure's boss-rushiest gimmick game, the little level design it does have is pretty much a complete joke; controls are fucking garbage)
#9: Sin & Punishment (gimmickily turns into a sidescroller on the final level; gimmicky bosses like the Tetris one or Missile Command one; tries to incorporate jumping in a rail shooter but the platforming designs blow dick)
#8: Astro Boy - Omega Factor (basic bitch bmup gameplay which has to be expanded via a lame collectathon gimmick; boring filler shmup gimmick segments almost break up the inane bmup monotony)
#7: Silhouette Mirage (polarity system makes the game feel too contrived leading to some of the most annoyingly gimmicky boss / level designs in Trashure history)
#6: Radiant Silvergun (scoring system makes it feel too much like a puzzler, punishing you for killing an enemy that isn't the right colour; cringey jarpig elements; like Alien Soldier, too many bosses and too little worthwhile level designs)
#5: Ikaruga (combine RSG's gimmicky scoring with SilMir's gimmicky polarity shield, double your gimmicks double your fun!... if only you COULD have fun playing a Trashure title...)
#4: Dynamite Headdy (over half the Scenes in the game flat-out suck, lacking proper level designs that focus not on platforming but instead on fighting bosses or shitty gimmicks like turning into a shmup or showing off a 3D floor; also the shittiest bonus rounds conceived for a scotformer)
#3: Gunstar Heroes (Dice Palace consists of braindead puzzles and worthless mini-bosses; second to last level turns into yet another terrible shmup gimmick section; final level isn't a real level, but just another lousy boss rush)
#2: Gunstar Super Heroes (takes Gunstar but makes everything about it shittier, most notably the inclusion of horrible "homages" to several SEGA classics)
#1: Mischief Makers (Olympics is a marathon of retarded mini-games, plus many more shitty gimmicks in this overrated kusoge)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:04:11 2023 No.9778631 >>9776409 >tranny Projection much?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:31:04 2023 No.9778716 >>9778543 >Gimmicks are... LE BAD

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:51:21 2023 No.9778773 >dude i love being /vr/ lolcow lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 22:05:06 2023 No.9778808 >>9772075 >nu-gender bender Go back.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 00:02:12 2023 No.9779108 >>9778716 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 02:17:57 2023 No.9779328 >>9765164 >>9776209 >>9776428 >>9778205 >>9778543 >>9779108 amiga sucks

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 02:53:44 2023 No.9779372 >>9779328 better than nintenshite

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 03:08:09 2023 No.9779389 >>9779328 >>9779372 But I like both of them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 15:00:12 2023 No.9780390 File: 585 KB, 923x695, 98c.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9777291 >Wario World was all on Treasure ..why does this explain so much and yet so little at the same time?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 15:49:03 2023 No.9780505 File: 186 KB, 850x788, sample_1c0a883e0ab0bd0889199efd798d7220.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9777578

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 17:19:31 2023 No.9780747 [DELETED]

>>9765164
It may be worse in some ways, but at least it doesn't have a stage as boring and repetitive as the fifth level from Gunstar Heroes, which is just a flat line and fighting the same handful of enemies over, and over, and over...

Why is Trashure so horrible at level design?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 20:55:39 2023 No.9781238 >>9776282 All shit except for Rocket Knight, which is like a Treasure game done right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 02:35:46 2023 No.9781891 >>9780390 Some Nintendo guys did work on Wario World, that wiki list is wrong. For example the Panel de Pon creator designed WW's puzzle-platforming special stages.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 02:51:05 2023 No.9781917 >>9780505 Megaman ZX tomboy…

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 02:54:33 2023 No.9781924 File: 1.24 MB, 1200x1576, 109_main.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9781917 That's actually Kei from the 90s anime Dirty Pair Flash.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 06:32:11 2023 No.9782236 File: 990 KB, 750x734, 1664554153706618.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9781924 >Dirty Pair Having grown up with the classic Dirty Pair, I never got used to their modern look.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 07:00:02 2023 No.9782256 >>9782236 the classic look was better anyway

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 14:48:42 2023 No.9782841 >>9776282 >improved by Missile Fury on 360 Switch and/or Steam port fucking WHEN?

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 14:52:03 2023 No.9782859

>>9776282
>improved by Missile Fury on 360
I never played that one, but as far as I could see it's a totally different game than the original. Even the Dreamcast version has a lot of differences with the N64 original, but those 2 are more or less the same game (same levels, same characters/story), Missile Fury I think it's like a proper sequel.
And yeah they should port it, or just release a full Bangai-O collection with all 4 games in the series + level editors for all of them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 16:39:03 2023 No.9783058 >>9778023 >Gaydiant Shittergun >great Ah yes, I too love shitty puzzle games with jarpig elements disguised as shmups. NOT.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 17:18:00 2023 No.9783157 >>9765164 Honestly thought Red was just a femboy

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 17:24:55 2023 No.9783175 [DELETED]

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>>9776409
>"this character's sex is up in the air"
What Japanese devs mean by that:
>exactly that, nothing else
What modern West thinks of that:
>I CAN PROJECT MY POLITICAL BELIEFS HERE IN THIS CHILDREN'S GAME, LGBT CONFIRMED CIS OWNED LMAO!!!!!!!!1

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 01:11:04 2023 No.9784018 - /vr/'s official Treasure sequels tierlist - God Tier: Bangai-O - Missile Fury High Tier: Sin & Punishment - Star Successor Mid Tier: Advanced Guardian Heroes Low Tier: Gunstar Superheroes Shit Tier: Bangai-O Spirits

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 06:00:05 2023 No.9784341 >>9784018 >Bangai-O Spirits I constantly forget they ever made that piece of trash, tried way to hard to use the DS stylus as a main feature

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 12:19:54 2023 No.9784702 m

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:45:28 2023 No.9784821 >>9784018 What's with your weird obsession with tierlists, auster? Also you're aware that, basically, you're /vr/'s lolcow, right? Anything you say will be taken completely in a non serious way and people will think the opposite of what you say.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 19:55:07 2023 No.9785686 Heh. Based as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 21:44:16 2023 No.9785842 >>9781924 That the joke.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 02:09:37 2023 No.9786284 b-b-b-b-based

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 06:27:14 2023 No.9786687 b-b-b-based

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 15:33:38 2023 No.9787660 b-b-b-b-b-b-b-based

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 16:07:33 2023 No.9787787 File: 449 KB, 1438x1080, Yuri_waitress.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9782236 >I never got used to their modern look. They're not that bad, especially considering they were (re)designed by Takahiro Kimura RIP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 16:11:10 2023 No.9787801 >>9775983 >Seeing as Super existed during the era when metascores were a thing its rating is likely more accurate. How young are you...? Metascore didn't exist until late 00's

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 18:57:22 2023 No.9788128 File: 321 KB, 640x542, cyborg_kurochan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9771353 >not posting the best Chadstation run 'n gun Lad...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 19:04:26 2023 No.9788147 >>9788128 Best Konami player

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 19:07:49 2023 No.9788157 >>9772075 See>>9776409

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 19:25:16 2023 No.9788204 File: 982 KB, 1142x840, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9788128 This doesn't look very good

>>	Sheryl Lawson Sat Apr 1 21:17:54 2023 No.9788516 >>9788128 Shadow the Hedgehog before edge lord was a thing?<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 21:22:26 2023 No.9788530 >>9787801 Metacritic has been around since 2001. I remember checking out THPS3 on there when it came out for the N64.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 21:28:20 2023 No.9788537 >>9775983 b8

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 03:53:35 2023 No.9789309 File: 531 KB, 960x1440, mfwhenever I see a Trashure character design.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] For me? It's fuck Treasure and their ugly-ass, gimmicky-ass piece of shit garbage games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 04:03:12 2023 No.9789319 File: 3.27 MB, 640x428, metal-slug-fat-game.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9788128 >>not posting the best Chadstation run 'n gun >>9771353 >>mogs your kusoge kek not even close bois

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 04:29:41 2023 No.9789354 File: 7 KB, 240x152, GSH_betatrio.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9777249 Oh, wow. A long time ago, I found palettes for not just that version of Red, but also graphics and palettes for Blue and Yellow, too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 14:18:17 2023 No.9790025 >>9789319 >>9788128 >>9771353 >not Wild 9 Fuckin' weebs

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 15:14:40 2023 No.9790108 >>9789319 >>9790025 Maybe look up how GH games play before posting unrelated crap

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 15:20:07 2023 No.9790113 >>9789354 >>9777249 No way, she an official futa (jk)

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 15:33:13 2023 No.9790132 >>9790025 Wild 9 is a 6/10 game if you're feeling charitable

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 20:13:09 2023 No.9790774 >>9789354 >Red and Blue get genderbent >Yellow doesn't become male Coomerism... was a mistake...

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 11:32:53 2023 No.9792012 >>9777249 I think it's pretty clear that the designers wanted Red to be female but some Jap producer got in the way because Game BOYS aren't for GIRLS or some shit and they had to compromise. The 'murican ver is prob actually closer to the intent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 17:54:15 2023 No.9792886 >>9788516 Nah. Shadow is a ripoff of Megaman's Bass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 21:55:28 2023 No.9793487 >>9765768 >The whole thing was probably thrown out unfinished Why do you think Golden Silver doesn't move his ass in the final battle? https://tcrf.net/Gunstar_Super_Heroes

Anonymous Tue Apr 4 05:19:44 2023 No.9794187 [DELETED]

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>>9765164
>You're supposed to IMPROVE on the original when you develop a sequel, Treasure...
Say no more.

Also, how come 7th gen's not considered retro yet here? It'll be 20 years next year since the DS came out...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 18:27:37 2023 No.9795259 b-b-b-b-b-based

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 19:26:24 2023 No.9795382 File: 5 KB, 253x122, GSH_ABDragon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9793487 That TCRF page has so many issues...

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 06:26:41 2023 No.9796424 Yea, I'm thinkin fuck Treasure.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 06:29:04 2023 No.9796425 >>9796424 Sup austroon

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 07:25:20 2023 No.9796470 >>9770353 This feels like Smash on the GBA for some reason

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 07:39:50 2023 No.9796482 https://youtu.be/Dj4CmpJsDhg Why yes, I was recycled into a better Treasure game on the GBA. What gave me away?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 07:43:41 2023 No.9796487 >>9796482 I dunno what's more of a tearjerker, Green doing everything to stop Golden Silver from activating or Astro Boy having to sacrifice himself?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 08:02:22 2023 No.9796501 https://youtu.be/M9vrqGlC4go

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 08:07:05 2023 No.9796504 >>9768474 But Kaga makes good games

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 08:16:21 2023 No.9796519 >>9787787 >Takahiro Kimura NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 19:47:28 2023 No.9797585 b-b-b-b-b-based

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 02:07:36 2023 No.9798352 >>9796482 >better Treasure game Literally no one thinks GBA Gunstar is better than the Genesis version, silly Nintendildo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 03:20:58 2023 No.9798479 >>9798352 Based auster seething about nintendo until his last day of life

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 16:05:15 2023 No.9799538 >>9798479 not everyone that realises treasure made shitty games is your imagined boogeyman, schizo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 17:38:04 2023 No.9799693 File: 103 KB, 640x628, Omega_Factor_cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9798352 >reading comprehension Retardaussie?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 18:09:14 2023 No.9799754 >>9799693 How can Gunstar Superheroes be recycled into a game that was released before it? >calling others retarded The irony...

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 18:32:19 2023 No.9799809 >>9765164 If this game released in 2023 Red would be non-binary

Anonymous Thu Apr 6 21:02:46 2023 No.9800213
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>>9799754
Maybe because they worked on it simultaneously, development wise, then recycled what they had left to the other project, Retardaus?
>"How could have Omega exist when Sonic Heroes wasn't even finished before release?"
The irony is on you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 21:12:15 2023 No.9800243 >>9799809 I'm gonna be honest with you, we're better with guessing than having the character ruined due to non-genuine "modern sensibilities" with the following of that being massively alienated.

Anonymous Thu Apr 6 22:13:37 2023 No.9800394

>>9800213
>Maybe because they worked on it simultaneously, development wise, then recycled what they had left to the other project, Retardaus?
Maybe if they'd been released days within each other like Sonic Battle and Heroes were, but GSH came out a whopping 2 years after Omega Factor did.
Sounds like you're just goalpost-shifting after realising you fucked up, mate.

Also, the game you're thinking of is the GBA Tiny Toons game, which is the prototype for OF that Treasure recycled from.
GSH and OF don't really play anything alike.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 03:18:16 2023 No.9801017 >>9800394 >GSH came out a whopping 2 years after Omega Factor did. What difference does it make? They were still developed together >mate See, he's at it again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 09:46:02 2023 No.9801590 Great game

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