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9740070 No.9740070 [Reply] [Original]

Was it dead on arrival?

>> No.9740075

>one of the best games and controller ever made
whats up with the troll posting lately? cope from the other saturn threads? too much saturn threads for u?

>> No.9740080

>>9740070
I never understood this game, you fly around collecting rings? I remember my buddy being amazed when it came out I just didnt get it.

>> No.9740162

Not even trolling how is this one of the best games? There's nothing to do except fly through rings. The happiness system is autistic and the game eats over half of the save data room on the whole machine. This game is pretty on par with something like Wii sports. Something that's fun for free

>> No.9740165

>>9740162
>eats over half of the save data room
I recommend the PS2 port with a 240p patch. It's 60fps!

>> No.9740213

>>9740080
Sonic is running around collecting rings and people can't get enough of it.

>> No.9740224

>>9740213
>running and jumping (You know actual platforming) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awkwardly flying

Nights it's like the Pilotwings of the saturn, the saturn needed a Mario 64

>> No.9740235
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BITCHY

>> No.9740241

>>9740224
>the saturn needed a Mario 64
It didn't, because the Playstation didn't. There are no games on the Playstation that reached more than 10% of the userbase.
The Saturn didn't need a hypersuccessful mascot.

>> No.9740272
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9740272

>>9740070
>>9740070
with these release dates:
JP: 5 July 1996
NA: 20 August 1996
EU: 7 October 1996

Maybe it was too complex for mid 90s players
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFxH6-g8FGQ

>> No.9740409

>>9740272
no, it was just a terrible game with nauseating graphics, as demonstrated by your video.

>> No.9740425

>>9740080
maybe the game is not for you

>> No.9740442 [DELETED] 

This game is for gays and trannies no offense

>> No.9740529

>>9740241
Spyro is their mario 64

>> No.9740535

>>9740272
>Maybe it was too complex for mid-90s players

Dude I get S on every level (also the Christmas ones). I'm not even a hardcore gamer...

>> No.9740554

>>9740529
Spyro isn't even in the top 15 best sellers. It has a userbase reach of 4%.

>> No.9740561

>>9740241
Crash bandicoot
Rayman
Spyro

>> No.9740587

>>9740561
>crash bandicoot
Maybe, but its reach is not that of Mario 64.
>rayman
It's so multiplatform that it came out first on the Atari Jaguar. Atari, Jaguar.
>spyro
>>9740554

>> No.9740652

>>9740080
Same reason why anyone played Pinball. It's all about score. Nights is a very pure classic gameplay form of early 3D videogames - it's not really attemping to tell a story or create complexity to 3D engines, it just wants to engage as much as possible with its mechanics and time attack it while aiming for top score, not unlike what arcade playstyle used to be like in early 80s. Down to its core, it's a very simple game. That being said, if you don't like it, it won't click. It's like asking what made Gattaca so popular when you can't bear to play it for more than 5 minutes.

>> No.9740678

>>9740554
more thatn 100 million piracy copies sold

>> No.9740794

>controller like a dinner plate
what were they thinking?

>> No.9740814

>>9740080
I never understood this Donkey Kong, you jump over barrels and climb ladders? I remember my buddy being amazed when it came out I just didnt get it.

I never understood Pacman, you eat stuff? I remember my buddy being amazed when it came out I just didnt get it.

I never understood Mario, you run around collecting coins? I remember my buddy being amazed when it came out I just didnt get it.

I never understood Kirby, you run around suck things? I remember my buddy being amazed when it came out I just didnt get it.

>> No.9740935

>>9740241
The Saturn was never an equal to the PS1. It's better to compare it to the Genesis, which was boosted *enormously* by Sonic the Hedgehog.

>> No.9741401

>>9740272
>top comment agrees the game is confusing as fuck

>> No.9741406

>>9740814
Relax I didnt say its a bad game. Just seems weird to me.

>> No.9741549

>>9740070
yeah it was pretty trash. The only good game on this is Azel.

>> No.9741603

>>9740935
Point is, "Saturn needs big mascots" is kind of a meme when the undisputed winner of the gen didn't really have one (Unless you consider cars mascots).

>> No.9741612

>>9741603
The saturn didn't need a mascot, it needed a 3d Sonic game so more than half of old segafans wouldn't just buy a Playstation

>> No.9741615

>>9741603
>winner of the gen didn't really have one
Tomb Raider
Crash
Spyro
>no those don't count
Point is, you're a retard who doesn't understand marketable characters sold systems.

>> No.9741623

>>9741615
>Tomb Raider
You're not making good points pulling up a game that was released on Saturn first.
>Spyro
Landed outside of the top 15, sold less than FF9. Is Zidane Tribal a famous PS1 mascot? I don't think so.

>> No.9741632

>>9740165
>PS2
It's 30fps and they fucked up the controls

>> No.9741705

>>9740070
GOD the 3d control pad was so comfy. too bad the saturn was kinda meh outside of a handful of really great games

>> No.9741767

>>9740080
It's a score-attack game made 10 years after everybody stopped giving a shit about score on console games.

>> No.9741791

>>9741767
Also scoring NiGHTS is shit because there's a bug with the trick system involving spamming the trick button as you fly into a surface.

If you want an actually good Sega score attack game, go play Crazy Taxi. Skip SHiTES into Memes, one of Sega's worst games ever, which should've been Sonic 4 instead.

>> No.9742136

>>9740241
When you have like two games on the N64 is hard to find people with different games, anon.

>> No.9742347

>>9740075
fpbp
>>9740070
sneed

>> No.9742439

Nights will never be a good game and Sega Saturn will never be a good console.

Keep coping and dilating until you inevitably join the 41%.

>> No.9742448

>>9740075
>one of the best games and controller ever made
Have a (you)

>> No.9742467

>>9742439
>>9742448
>the butthurt has entered the chat

>> No.9742480

>>9742467
I own and love the Saturn
That controller is shit and nights is also shit

>> No.9742505

>>9742480
i bet ur favorite yutuber is sega lord x

>> No.9742513

>>9742505
Who?
I play good games, nights was and always has been a shitty game

>> No.9742543

>>9740075
Nights isn't one of the best anything, you smarmy fuck.

>> No.9743071

>>9740070
>Was it dead on arrival?

Ask yourself this, do you remember when NiGHTS was released, or anyone who had it? Or did everyone have Crash or Mario 64 instead? ... or Tomb Raider, or Bubsy 3D...NiGHTS was still one of the best selling Saturn games behind Virtua Fighter 2, but it seems to be mostly remembered as a curiosity. Burning rangers is even more obscure. NiGHTS still had some re-releases and a sequel on the Wii. I like the game. I played it when it was new.

>> No.9743093
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9743093

It's really easy to just rip images out of magazine .pdf files. GameFan review NiGHTS up against Mario 64.

>> No.9743094

>>9742505
Not him but that dude makes good videos

>> No.9743098 [SPOILER] 
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9743098

>>9741623
>You're not making good points pulling up a game that was released on Saturn first.

It's True, Tomb Raider was released on the Saturn in the UK a few months earlier than the PS1 game. But the PS1 and PC versions had way more success. The PC game even had a Gold re-release with additional stages.

>> No.9743104 [SPOILER] 
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9743104

>>9743098

ps1 review

>> No.9743127

>>9741791
>Also scoring NiGHTS is shit because there's a bug with the trick system involving spamming the trick button as you fly into a surface.

That's a glitch from the PS2 version, the Saturn original doesn't have that

>> No.9743154

>>9740814
>you run around suck things
OP knows all about that

>> No.9743208

>>9740080
you are a westerner

>> No.9743228
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>>9740070
are you talking about the sadturd itself, nights, or this controller? either way the answer is "yes"

>> No.9743241
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>>9743228
Man, the Saturn in the US was laughably bad. I got it in the 2000 and every single game I had was Jap. They should have not even fucking bothered if they weren't going to try at fucking all in the US.

Genisis and DC on the other hand were the opposite. I had 99.99% NA games.
>What imports did you get
I imported Powerstone 2 and Rayblade for DC

>> No.9743507

>>9743094
Shame that he's a cuckold.
Joe from Game Sack is the far superiour Sega-favouring jewtuber.

>> No.9743516

>>9743208
Yes.

>> No.9743517

>>9740070
It's the Nights jester a man or a woman

>> No.9743556

ITT: People who don't understand NiGHTS.

It is one of the most creative games ever made and a work of genius by Sonic Team.

Just as Albert Einstein innocently asked "What would a beam of light look like if you were travelling at the same speed next to it?", Sonic Team asked some fundamental questions that delve into the heart of console gameplay:

>what would a platform game be like if there were no platforms?
>what would a platform game be like if you didn't need to jump?
>what would a platform game be like if you couldn't die?

NiGHTS was the answer to these questions.

People say the Saturn didn't have a Sonic game but NiGHTS was it. But whereas Nintendo took Mario platforming and made it 3D, Sonic Team kept the 3D but ditched the platforming. NiGHTS is just Sonic without a ground to run on!

NiGHTS is nothing less than the zenith and swansong of platforming, a total deconstruction of the genre that dominated the 8 and 16 bit era. FUCK, I love this game so much even though the product Sets released is unfinished and barely more than a tech demo. I FUCKING LOVE NIGHTS

>> No.9743562
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>>9743556
not sure if pasta

>> No.9743570

>>9743556
And that's exactly why Nights is dogshit. Platforming is infinitely more fun than flying around like some fucking peter pan-wannabe poofter, and the fact that Nights was a financial flop proves it. Any other take (such as yours) is contrarian, retarded, and simply WRONG.

>> No.9743596

>>9740080
its basically tony hawk pro skater but you fly

>> No.9743893 [SPOILER] 
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9743893

>>9743104

Crash Bandicoot GameFan review.

The end of 1996 was a crazy time for 3D gaming. In North America, there was the release of the N64 and Mario 64, Sony had Crash, Tomb Raider became a big success, NiGHTS was an interesting addition too. But the poor distribution of the Saturn, higher console price, made it a less popular choice than a PS1 with Crash. later in 1996, there was Wave Race 64, and Shadows of the Empire. 1996 was the year that 3D gaming went mainstream.

>> No.9743937
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9743937

>>9743893

Die Hard GameFan were really big on the 7-10 scoring system. Where any review score that gets a 60 or lower is generally considered bad, or not worth your time.

>> No.9744350

>>9743596
not it isnt. at least in tony hawk you can move around in 3D

nights is mostly 2D movement

>> No.9744485

>>9740070
It still baffles me that this is basically the same form factor as the Dreamcast controller yet feels way better to play. How did they fuck it up so bad?

>> No.9746101

>>9740070
It must be said that it have really enjoyable level soundtracks.

>> No.9747747

>>9743241
I will always find it funny that sega decided to 100% focus on selling the saturn on their weakest market (japan) and it was the most popular console there for lonly like 2 years and in the end barelly sold more than the N64 which was more focused on the US market unlike the saturn.
Amazing how they went from a playerbase of 20M consoles sold to only 2M, in just one generation sega of japan killed their brand because of pure jealousy the US divison was better than them.

>> No.9748102

>>9740165
>240p patch
Hmm? What's that all about anon?