/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9723892]

What are some Retro games dugeons that go

FUCK YOU, LETS MAKE THIS DUNGEON AS HARD AS FUCKING POSSIBLE WITH DEAD ENDS, WORTHLESS TREASURES INSIDE, AND PITS THAT RESET YOUR PROGRESS IF CAN'T REMEBER WHERE IT IS IN A PLACE WHERE THE WALLS LOOKS THE SAME?

[Anonymous No.9723941]

PSI dungeons are nothing compared to PSII.

[Anonymous No.9723948]

>>9723941
I regret wanting to play Phantasy star and work my up till Phantasy star online.

[Anonymous No.9723994]

Wizardry.

[Anonymous No.9724035]

>>9723892
What, you think this is bad? Those layouts look like you could easily remember them without even drawing a map yourself.

[Anonymous No.9724038]

Probably Wizardry 4, it doesn't cut you even a modicum of slack, if you didn't master the previous entries first, you don't stand a goddamn chance.

[Anonymous No.9724117]

Shining in the Darkness gets pretty confusing.

[Anonymous No.9724438]

>>9723948
PSO may as well be an entirely different franchises; there's nothing major that carries over from the original series.

[Anonymous No.9724461]

>>9724038
>Wizardry 4

[Anonymous No.9724505]

>>9723892
Ther first PS mazes are pretty nice: they're at most 16x16 with walls taking a cell and traps aren't frequent or that annoying.
There's only a single trap location you need to remember as you need to disarm it to continue.

[Anonymous No.9724512]

>>9724035
Keep in mind that the dungeons are in first person and grid-based, that you can only see turns when you're right next to them, and that all the walls look the same. You also get random encounters every 3-4 steps which can make you forget about stuff. Of course, no in-game map like there would be in Zelda.
It's not that bad overall, but harder than what the map makes it look like.

[Anonymous No.9724859]

>>9723892
This ain't really that bad.
Hell, picrel ain't that bad either, it's the first dungeon of the game.

I honestly love the expansive ones in SJR, but I also love to suffer.

[Anonymous No.9724913]

>>9724859
Infini Palace was insane in KMT. I gave up on not using a map after a while even though I didn't use a map for most of the game.

[Anonymous No.9724929]

>>9723892
This looks pretty tame

[Anonymous No.9724931]

>>9724913
>KMT
The game has automap. There is no reason to use a predrawn map

[Anonymous No.9724934]

the worst is yet to come for me, anyways, I suffered through PSI and beat it, with fastfowarding, it reminded me a lot of dragon quest, I'm going to burn through PSII now.

[Anonymous No.9724936]

>>9724931
Automap got me through most of the game, but near the end the confusing layout of the middle floors along with the trap floors started getting to me.

[Anonymous No.9724961]

>>9723892
Not hard per se but King's Field 3 corridor of death is pure bullshit: the very first hallway has spikes in the walls so you will die like 10 times just trying to navigate that hallway and enemies can cast darkness so you won't be able to see shit. The only thing that has enough worth to spend more time that you need to in that dungeon is the royal key. Also, in that same dungeon there is a chair near the exit and i don't know if it's supposed to mean anything or what.

[Anonymous No.9725065]

>>9724512
I know, and it's really not that bad, even compared to Megami Tensei

[Anonymous No.9725134]

>>9724929
Phantasy Star 1 is easy enough you can beat it without drawing a map, so yeah. It just happens to be babby's first blobber without automap.

[Anonymous No.9725447]

Everyone who played Mother 1 hate this fucking factory

[Anonymous No.9725453]

>>9724934
PSII is a dungeon crawler without it being a first person perspective. Have fun.

[Anonymous No.9725458]

>>9724934
>burn through PSII
Oh man are you in for a hell of a time if you think you're going to burn through it.

[Anonymous No.9725492]

>>9725447

[Anonymous No.9725514]

>>9725458
FIASUFSUIAGFIWYAGFIAWGFIPAWBFVO{*Y# N(*%BNB*YSEBM)#B%

[Anonymous No.9725524]

the first person dungeon parts of golgo 13

[Anonymous No.9725528]

>>9724913
lol
speaking of Infini, Infinity in Breath of Fire 2 is pretty rude in a couple different ways, like undoing your shaman fusions halfway and forcing you to leave and walk all the way back down to get them back

[Anonymous No.9725545]

Dungeons of Daggorath took awhile for me to get through the first level.
I always got filtered by the knight in the second tho'.

[Anonymous No.9725557]

>people actually draw maps of dungeons because they can't imagine a map in their head
What it's like to be a brainlet. Imagining the map in your head IS the gameplay

[Anonymous No.9725774]

>>9725514
You're going to have a blast with this.

[Anonymous No.9725947]

Why is it so much fucking fun to suffer?

[Anonymous No.9727363]

>>9724934
>burn through PSII
>PSII

[Anonymous No.9727942]

>>9723892
Boo hoo fucker.

[Anonymous No.9727948]

>>9727363
I wonder if he made it to the Green Dam yet.

[Anonymous No.9728424]

>>9725947
KMT is very cozy

[Anonymous No.9728551]

>>9723892
I'm not sure I'd say they're that hard, but some of the dungeons in Shin Megami Tensei: If... are pretty infamous. There's the World of Sloth that requires you to run around in circles for something like eight in-game moon cycles to progress, which thankfully you can do with encounters turned off, but I imagine a lot of people had trouble even realising that's what you were supposed to do.

If I remember right, the World of Envy also pulled this devious little trick where it had a floor you couldn't pull up the full map for, because your COMP was disabled, and on that floor there were two separate areas that looked completely identical and were connected by teleporters. You would walk in a room, see the teleportation effect, then walk out and be like "What? I'm in the same place." You had to realise that the teleporter had actually led you to a duplicate of the previous area, but with teleporters that led to different destinations, and then you would have to teleport back and forth between them while keeping track of which visually identical area you were in, without the aid of a full map.

At least that's how I remember it, looking at this map I found it might've actually been more than two areas.

[Anonymous No.9728639]

>>9724961
isnt it essentially senn's funhouse ?

[Anonymous No.9728830]

>>9725514
Looks like you did the same thing I did. Here's a tip for you: go home after every town you visit on motavia. New party members will be waiting for you there. Are you at the trash heap looking for the watercraft?

[Anonymous No.9729879]

Damn, Phatasy star collections for the GBA is lookin trash.