/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9692764]

Okay.

But how does it thunder underground?

[Anonymous No.9692773]

>>9692764
Either you can hear it from the outside or it's Bowser's disco effects. Mario games surprisingly try their hardest to make sense unlike other platformers. Those 'SM64 deepest lore' memes are partially not even memes

[Anonymous No.9692776]

>>9692773
>Either you can hear it from the outside
It flashes too though.

[Anonymous No.9692785]

>>9692764
Koopa magic

[Anonymous No.9692790]

>>9692764
It's large in that cave to the point it has clouds and thunderstorms..

[Anonymous No.9692797]

>>9692764
Journey to the Center of the Earth reference.

[Anonymous No.9692802]

>>9692790
What evaporates the water into clouds with no sun?
What causes the weather effects with no moon?
This is fucked. I hope someone was fired.

[Anonymous No.9692805]

>>9692785
This, a wizard did it.

[Anonymous No.9692814]

Okay

But why when Mario steps on a star on the map he gets teleported to another world?


Okay

But why when Mario dies he comes back to life if he has a stack of lives?

Okay
But why when Mario gets a mushroom he becomes double the size,


Okay
Okay
Okay

[Anonymous No.9692819]

>>9692802
>What evaporates the water into clouds with no sun?
Proximity to the mantle.
>What causes the weather effects with no moon?
Even if the moon CAUSED weather rather than simply affecting it as a side-effect of tides, this would still apply under the crust. Or do you really believe gravity works on a first-come-first-served capacity?

[Anonymous No.9692832]

>>9692776
Yes, the entrance to the cave stays open

[Anonymous No.9692836]

Why is it called Dinosaur Island if there are only 3 dinosaurs in the entire game (4 if you consider Yoshi, but they live on their own island)?

Why is there a sweets theming with some of the locations when they're just generic plains, mountains etc and for some they didn't even bother with the name (forest)?

[Anonymous No.9692840]

>>9692836
> sweets theming with some of the locations
I know it's in like two NSMB games and Wario Land 1 (not really a Mario game and for some reason I don't find it to be obnoxious in this particular game) as well but imagine if this became a staple. Holy fucking shit this would suck, wouldn't it? This is such a non-Mario thing

[Anonymous No.9692846]

god i love SMW's map. as a kid it seemed like such an adventure to just look around the map and see all the secrets and how everything was connected.

I used to pause on the map and look around to point out landmarks.

[Anonymous No.9692847]

>>9692840
Food/sweet-themed naming is like an universal compulsion in Japanese media for some reason, even outside stuff made for children. They seem oddly convinced it comes across as original and quirky every time too.

[Anonymous No.9692853]

>>9692840
At least in WL the map looked the part, like with the teapot mountain.

[Anonymous No.9692878]

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1677272927028469.webm

[Anonymous No.9692887]

Climate change

[Anonymous No.9692904]

>>9692878
cute

[Anonymous No.9692950]

>>9692785
yes magikoopa when not fighting mario, they create electricity for browser castle huge neon sign (which op pic is missing)

[Anonymous No.9692991]

>>9692764

You can see Bowser floating and gloating right there in the background.
Remember that he's the king of magic. These days he lets Kamek do most of the work, but canonically he can do magic. SO of course he would create his own lightshow. A good villain needs an intimidating lair.
Impressions, baby!

[Anonymous No.9693043]

I just thought it was a valley with a dark sky, not a cave.

[Anonymous No.9693058]

>>9692764
okay what?

[Anonymous No.9693061]

It's a hole in the back of Bowser's giant stone head

[Anonymous No.9693067]

>>9692764
It’s just a bad electricity setup
That sound is just some arcing from the power lines hitting the water

[Anonymous No.9693209]

>>9692785
This.
>>9692797
Could also be this.
>>9692836
Rex, Reznor, Blaarg, Dino-Rhino, Eerie.
That's 2 more than what you said, but anyway, I think it's fine that way, if the game was too focused on dinosaurs, it'd feel a bit strange as a main Mario game. This way it still is mostly classic Mario enemies with some dino enemies here and there to fit the theme of Dinosaur Land, but nothing exaggerated.
By the way, speaking of dinos, it's curious that both SMW and Jurassic Park book came out the same day (JP in november 20, 1990, and SMW in november 21, but in Japan, so that means it was still 20th in the west)

[Anonymous No.9693224]

>>9692764
>thunder
its bowser growling

[Anonymous No.9693238]

>>9693224
Growling.
What about all the accompanying light?

[Anonymous No.9693252]

>>9693238
NTA but Bowser can shoot fire from his mouth... wouldn't be too weird if he could cause something like lighting in the sky when he growls.
I still think it's Koopa Magic, though.

[Anonymous No.9693262]

>>9692764
Koji Kondo farts.

[Anonymous No.9693413]

>>9693252
>>9693238
>>9693238
Bowser can spit fire. Ergo he farts fire, too.

[Anonymous No.9693424]

>>9693209
>Blaarg, Eerie
That's a stretch.

[Anonymous No.9693431]

>>9693424
Why exactly? Eerie is a ghost, but it's a dino ghost (always thought he looked like baby Yoshi, which is kind of creepy). Blaarg is just a dino. Want to call it a dragon or something?

[Anonymous No.9693432]

>>9692764
The cave walls are dark blue, but the background is black. I always assumed the back of the cave was open to the sky.

[Anonymous No.9693440]

Fun fact I discovered recently, maybe it's common knowledge but still want to share: if you beat the Sunken Ghost Ship level after you've already finished it once (and opened the gate to Bowser's Valley), the overworld map music will stop when you go back to the map after the level. I guess it's because it triggers a command to stop the map music for the bowser gate opening, but since that doesn't happen anymore once it's already opened, the map music just stops. It's kind of a nice novelty to go around the map without music, but the SFX still work, so you will hear the "beep!" sound when Mario moves from level to level, or the splash sound the fish makes when he jumps as you cross the bridges.

[Anonymous No.9693476]

>>9693440
now thats what i call a fun fact

[Anonymous No.9693552]

>>9692764
A large enough enclosed space can have its own weather. Valley of Bowser looks like its drawing on that old adventure movie cliche of the hollow Earth. It was used as recently as Godzilla vs Kong where the interior of the planet was home to prehistoric monsters. Since Mario World is set in Dinosaur Land and uses old school ragtime music throughout, it also stands to reason old adventure serials were also an influence.

[Anonymous No.9693554]

>>9693043
I wonder if it was originally designed that way before they thought of pic related and they just didn't bother to adjust the design.

[Anonymous No.9693572]

>>9693431
I always assumed it was a dragon. And it actually became even more dragon like in later incarnations.

[Anonymous No.9693582]

>>9693554
It may be that it's a tunnel to another part of the world entirely, where it's constant rolling thunder clouds.

[Anonymous No.9693583]

Is the castle from SMW supposed to be the same castle from SMB3?

[Anonymous No.9693586]

>>9693572
Mario RPG did him best.

[Anonymous No.9693709]

>>9693554
>>9693582
Similarly, I always wondered about pic related.
It seems to also be some kind of underworld place, but you can still see the sky, and the levels aren't all underground (like they are in SMW's Valley of Bowser). I'm guessing this is some place hidden within the big mountains in the main Yoshi's Island, but not actually underground.

[Anonymous No.9693880]

>>9692840
>I know it's in ... Wario Land 1
What? I just recently played that, and I don't remember sweets-themed levels.

[Anonymous No.9693894]

>>9692764
>valley of bowser
>really cave of bowser
what did they mean by this?

[Anonymous No.9693898]

>>9693880
Literally every level is food themed:
>Rice Beach
>Mt. Teapot
>Sherbet Land
>Stove Canyon
>SS Tea Cup
>Parsley Woods
>Syrup Castle
Sherbet Land and Syrup Castle in particular are named after sweets, not to mention the fact that tea is often made sweet and rice is an ingredient in various sweets and desserts.

[Anonymous No.9693925]

>>9693898
That's the naming convention, but I don't agree with using the word "themed," so I misunderstood you. I thought you meant running around on giant sticky buns and climbing candy canes, like Rayman or something. They look like a beach, a mountain, and an ice burg.

[Anonymous No.9693935]

>>9693925
By that logic, no level in Super Mario World is food themed, either, because it's all just names.
Wario Land actually has stronger food theming than SMW with a mountain that actually resembles a teapot and a giant fork-shaped tree sticking out of the forest.

[Anonymous No.9693954]

>>9692846
I did the same, it was incredible getting to donut plains and then just scrolling the map around and being in awe at all of the unknown

[Anonymous No.9693958]

>>9693935
>By that logic, no level in Super Mario World is food themed, either, because it's all just names.
NTA, but Chocolate Island is mostly dark brown terrain that looks like it could be chocolate, plus the brown lava that looks like choco milk.
Anyway, I don't see it as a negative that the name themes are just vague and not 100% represented. It's just an extra fun thing, nothing to get mad about.
It seems like something fun the devs thought of in the process of making the game, instead of doing something systematically to meet some kind of criteria in a soulless way.

[Anonymous No.9693960]

>>9693935
I wasn't making note or replying to any reference to Super Mario World, I was just confused by the Wario Land remark. That's all.

[Anonymous No.9694231]

>>9692836
>only two land masses are connected
more of an archipelago innit

[Anonymous No.9694291]

>>9692836
If we discovered an island with even one species of dinosaur, we'd probably call it Dinosaur Island.

[Anonymous No.9694295]

>>9692836
The Yoshis named them. It's why they're all named after food.

[Anonymous No.9694307]

>>9692764
It's not underground though?

[Anonymous No.9694312]

>>9692836
This just unlocked a childhood memory of someone I knew as a kid who had this map painted on his wall as a kid.

[Anonymous No.9694315]

>>9694312
I knew a couple that made a killing painting recreation of video game art like this for kid's bedrooms.

[Anonymous No.9694318]

>>9693583
No but the sunken boat is a SMB3 airship

[Anonymous No.9694367]

>>9692836
If I go out there and find an island, and there are any plurality of dinosaurs on it at all, I'm calling it dinosaur island.

[Anonymous No.9694518]

Aurora Borealis.

[Anonymous No.9694570]

>>9694518
--AURORA BOREALIS

[Anonymous No.9694589]

>>9694518
At that time of year? At that time of day? In that part of the Mushroom Kingdom? Localized entirely within Bowser's Lair?

[Anonymous No.9694642]

>>9693709
It's just the evening view of the island.

[Anonymous No.9694647]

>>9694642
>>9693709
That's not Yoshi's Island anymore, it's this game's version of Valley of Bowser.

[Anonymous No.9695585]

Kamek und the Magickoopas need a staff to use magic while Chargin' Chucks can do it without a stick and use magic with their hands instead...

[Anonymous No.9695636]

>>9693898
>>9693935
> food analogies

[Anonymous No.9695642]

>>9693262
speaking of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prIXaXB62Tk

[Anonymous No.9695652]

>>9695636
Those aren’t analogies, they’re names. Your bot is broken.

[Anonymous No.9695701]

>>9692840
>This is such a non-Mario thing
Agreed, they need to stick to [Adjective]-[Adjective] [Place]
That's true Mario

[Anonymous No.9695743]

>>9695642
No way.
Is that really what they allowed to ship?

[Anonymous No.9695963]

>>9695743
It’s GBA anon

[Anonymous No.9695976]

>>9692802
There are plants with green leaves living in that cave. This means there's enough artificial light for photosynthesis to occur.
It's probably pretty warm in there.

[Anonymous No.9696114]

>>9695963
IT'S A MATTER OF EFFORT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjkxmwC15cQ

[Anonymous No.9696136]

>>9696114
And that use the same fart sound as a bass line

[Anonymous No.9696140]

>>9696136
>the same fart sound
It's not.

[Anonymous No.9696176]

>>9695743
>>9695963
If you played this on an actual GBA you wouldn't notice it; it was designed for its shitty lil' speaker.

[Anonymous No.9696206]

>>9695636
>reddit quote formatting

[Anonymous No.9696223]

>>9695642
I knew this was gonna be posted and it still makes me lose it. People love to mention the Mega Drive fart synth but this has to be the cleanest most genuine fart sample in a videogame soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.9696352]

>>9696176
Nah.
>>9696114

[Anonymous No.9696418]

>>9692836
Donut Plains is shaped like a donut, and Chocolate Island is at least chocolate-colored. By the way, the body of water that the Sunken Ghost Ship is in has a name in Japan: Ramune Trench.

[Anonymous No.9696448]

>>9692840
>Holy fucking shit this would suck, wouldn't it? This is such a non-Mario thing
Anon, the main kingdom in Mario games is called the MUSHROOM Kingdom. Mario has had shit named after food since day 1.

[Anonymous No.9697229]

>>9696140
It is the same sound used at a different pitch

[Anonymous No.9697292]

>>9692773
>Those 'SM64 deepest lore' memes are partially not even memes
Correct. They planned to give the game that mysterious feeling.
https://shmuplations.com/mario64/

[Anonymous No.9697316]

>>9697292
>normally we'd include about 80 different enemies
The fuck is he talking about? There is a Mario game with THAT many different enemies? Hell, I don't even think SM64 has 40 character sprites including Mario himself

[Anonymous No.9697361]

>>9697316
Yeah that is pretty weird
https://www.mariowiki.com/List_of_enemies_by_game

[Anonymous No.9697375]

>>9697316
>>9697361
Mario 3 has around 60 according to my count

[Anonymous No.9697660]

>>9692819
>do you really believe gravity works on a first-come-first-served capacity?
Of course it does. That's why we float about in our basements, ya dingus.

[Anonymous No.9697667]

>>9693262
Does Marie Kondo, too? If so, I want to feed her red bean paste and have her organise my undies.

[Anonymous No.9697686]

>>9697316
I think Yoshi's Island has many more. There are so many creatures that only appear once or twice in the game.