/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9690810]

>lubricate my plastic OEM joystick
>lasts forever

What did steelstick simps mean by this?

[Anonymous No.9690847]

>>9690810
>Released mid 90s
>mostly purchased for children
>No one knew that they were designed to self-destruct at the time
>Mario Party Stigmata joke
I would assume lube wouldn’t do much good to a majority of OEM sticks today.

[Anonymous No.9690876]

>>9690810
My favorite's the plastic repros that were cast from a used controller yet still cost way too much

[Anonymous No.9690882]

>>9690810
Do we know if the mechanism is identical in the NSO N64 controller? I've barely used mine so far, so it might be a good idea to go full prevention and slip it up now.

[Anonymous No.9690991]

>>9690810

Is it true that there are pre-lubricated controllers in Japan, but for the US they didn't put lube in because some extremely mentally challenged child could eat some if it leaked out?

[Anonymous No.9691001]

>>9690810
More importantly, what was Nintendo THINKING?

[Anonymous No.9691018]

>>9691001
>what was Nintendo THINKING?
plastic cheap

[Anonymous No.9691024]

>>9690882
Looking at pictures online it doesn't seem like the plastic parts are interchangeable.
The entire joystick module works completely differently electrically anyways since the NSO controller uses pots like any regular stick while the original N64 one has optical encoders like a ball mouse

[Anonymous No.9691039]

I bought a new old stock controller and started replaying games with it. Games I fully replayed with it so far;
Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Mario Kart, Goldeneye 64, Tony Hawk 1 and 2, Kirby 64. And I'm still playing Rogue Squadron and DK64 right now. Other games I have lined up are Banjo Kazooie and Tooie, Toy Story 2, Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini, Quest 64 (ew), Yoshi's Story, and Smash Bros.

I've lubed the stick with silicone three times already, and yet the wear is starting to become noticeable. Good thing I have another controller new in the box for the future.

[Anonymous No.9691046]

>>9690810
> forever
you guise i did it last weeks its fine trust me

[Anonymous No.9691072]

>>9690810
Lube won't really do anything, it's still plastic on plastic.

[Anonymous No.9691652]

>>9690810
I have an n64 controller that I'm gonna open and replace with kitsch parts, I have some krytox 205g0 from keyboard stuff will that work and how should it be applied?

[Anonymous No.9691720]

>>9690882
>Do we know
Obviously "we" do not. But I do.

>>9690991
>Is it true that there are pre-lubricated controllers in Japan
I don't know. But I've opened a NIB Japanese controller and didn't see any. However that doesn't mean that there were no controllers that were lubed, or that the lube didn't just dry out to the point I couldn't detect it. I've also opened used controllers and seen no evidence of lube. Any dust was easily removed with compressed air. There was no lube for it to stick to.

[Anonymous No.9692097]

>>9691720
>Obviously "we" do not. But I do.
Hurr durr.

>>9690882
In case anyone else was wondering.

[Anonymous No.9692226]

yes, now you have a janky and disgustingly proportioned controller that will last forever

[Anonymous No.9692667]

>>9691072
Isn't the same sort of plastic, one is harder than other.

And in any mechanical assembly, it must be lubricated. there's oil for your car's engine, there's grease in the lens rail of the PS1.

Friction necessarily involves wear.

[Anonymous No.9692683]

>>9690991
not only is it true- a single Japanese controller has never worn down, because the lube they used is the same lube they used to use in the most expensive machinery like race cars or rocket ships in the 90s that needed to be as reliable as possible. They only used a drop or so in the controller so it wasn’t that expensive.

[Anonymous No.9692756]

>>9692683
Sir, do you have a source to back that up?

[Anonymous No.9692772]

>>9692756
I do. It's the same lube I used to pull that whopper out of my zoomie ass.

[Anonymous No.9692880]

>>9691001
I would unironically say they are more durable than potiometer sticks if they come with some factory lube.

>>9691072
You are welcome to go to >>>/n/ and talk about chain lube autism, where they will come at you with charts.
Same for motorsports, or why cars has cups that seal in lube around the joints and connecting parts.
Or just watch one of Project Farms go at measuring friction:
https://youtu.be/MDtDIcLOTnU?t=310

Yes, it will wear down.
But the friction defines how fast it will happen, and the various lube types might also dry out if its exposed to air.

[Anonymous No.9692916]

Do the Switch ones come pre-lubed? I heard they do.

[Anonymous No.9693427]

>>9692756
No why

[Anonymous No.9693506]

>>9690810
>Never had issues with OEM N64 controller sticks.
>Never need to do anything to the sticks always worked fine.
>Only open up controller to clean it and that’s it.
I feel so out of place I legit never had any issues, I been playing 64 for 20 years all my controllers besides shitty 3rd party ones I had as a kid been fine.

[Anonymous No.9693525]

>>9693506
How many official controllers did you have?
I had two growing up, I noticed the first was wearing out in the retro days, the second lasted me until recently. I think each one is good for like ten years probably.

[Anonymous No.9693531]

>>9693525
About three over years buying and selling N64 stuff, I got 2 now one US and one Japanese both fine, the only “issues” is marks from the stick moving but sticks themselves have never became loose on me.

[Anonymous No.9694316]

>>9691652
I use dielectric grease (silicone based). As long as it's silicone based and not too low viscosity. (too drippy). The stuff that I use is very high viscosity (stays where you put it). Also use this youtube video for some advice on how to take it apart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5YsJCGKsiE

[Anonymous No.9694324]

>>9691652
dont forget that kitch bent parts need time to wear in. I had to stretch out my spring slightly to counteract the tight new parts

[Anonymous No.9695362]

>>9693506
>never tardraged my controllers with cheeto dust covered sausage fingers
Why are you even here?

>>9694324
>dont forget that kitch bent parts are cheap shit
Yeah, they're like a buck so what do you expect. You can actually finish these yourself with some sandpaper, wire brush, mommys nail file, etc. and they'll work ok. Stretching out the spring to make parts that don't fit right rub harder against other parts is retarded. Don't do it.

[Anonymous No.9696483]

>>9694316
Yeah, I bought a jar of silicone grease. This shit works wonders. Lubed up my good N64 sticks as well as the ones I replaced with kitsch parts. Also lubed up my dreamcast sticks so those are smooth as butter now. Also great for all my disc-based consoles; put that shit on the laser assembly gears and sled to make them run MUCH quieter. PS1 is now practically silent. Dreamcast is still fucking loud but way better than stock, best it's gonna get.