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Let me guess, you need more?

>> No.9675402

>>9675343
Wario should have been playable instead of some generic Nokonoko. Also DK instead of DK jr.

>> No.9675451

>>9675402
>Wario
>In Super Mario Kart
Are you retarded? In 1992 Wario didn't even exist when SMK was released (SMK was released BEFORE SML2)

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9675456

>Let me guess, you need more?

>> No.9675504

>Ruy
>Chin-Li
>Zangief
>Blanka
>Ken
>Dhalsim
>E. Honda
>Guile

>> No.9675515

>>9675504
I'm assuming you're aware of the romhack that replaced the original characters with street fighter ones and changed the items?

>> No.9675572

>>9675402
What the fuck is a nokonoko?

>> No.9675593
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9675593

>>9675572
Weeb speak for turtle

>> No.9675598

>>9675402
Regular DK would look exactly the same without the shirt

>> No.9675603

>only one girl character
Yes I need more

>> No.9675610

>>9675603
Wendy Koopa?

>> No.9675648
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9675648

>has his own kart racer
>better than Mario Kart
>but Rare fucks off and takes all their characters with them
>so now he has to slum it in the competition's game

Sad day.

>> No.9675660

>>9675648
Play SEGA all star racing transformed

>> No.9675664

i love nu/vr/

>> No.9676079

Konami Crazy Racers is the superior sprite-based scotracer

>> No.9676085

>>9675648
really sad because if they had stuck around this could’ve been what MK has become w all the different vehicles and gimmicks and they could’ve just kept doing successors to SMK and MK64. I’m super bitter because double dash on feels like Adventure racing not Mario kart. But that’s my old man rant for today.

>> No.9676089

>>9675572
You have to type noko to be taken back to the thread you're posting in instead of page 1.

>> No.9676105

>>9675343
>koopa
No, this is plenty, thank you

>> No.9676106

>>9675343
No Shy Guy, no play.

>> No.9676131

>>9675343
Yes I would like more. Decent physics and gameplay that doesn't rely on shitty rubber banding would be a start. The other shit can come later.

>> No.9676132

>>9676106
>Shy Guy isn’t in a single /vr/ Mario Kart
Why

>> No.9676169

>>9676132
Most of them have small rosters

>> No.9676184

>>9676089
>its 2006 again
fuck

>> No.9676220

>>9676131
Skill issue.

>> No.9676426

>>9676079
>Oh boy, I can't wait to play as Literally Who from that one game that never came outside of Japan!

>> No.9676553

>>9675343
>Let me guess, you need more?

There are only really 4 character types in the original Super Mario Kart. Mario and Luigi, Princess and Yoshi, Bowser and Kong jr., Koopa and Toad. This was done to make things fair for two players, since both players cant choose the same character.

>> No.9676564

>>9675648
>Brits
lel

>> No.9676571

>>9675343
i'm obsessed with a memory I have of this image with Wario in the place of one of the drivers, that I saw on a official material 3 decades ago and never found again

>> No.9676592

>>9676553
I know that Bowser and Jr are heavier, but what's the difference between the other 3?

>> No.9676650
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9676650

>>9675572
It's what they call Koopa Troopas in Japan. Which is why the first shell you get in Mario RPG is called "NokNok."

>> No.9676667

>>9675660
I really like that game

>> No.9676669

>>9676592
Mario and Luigi are the "all-arounders" of the game. Average in every respect.

Princess and Yoshi have high acceleration and decent top speed, but shit cornering.

Toad and Troopa have tight cornering and decent acceleration , but the slowest top speed. Being lightweights, they also take more recoil from collisions.

Bowser and Jr have the slowest acceleration, but the highest top speed. Being the heavies, take less recoil from collisions.

>> No.9676671

>>9676085
Double dash is a banger, probably 3rd in the series behind 8 deluxe and wii mariokart with custom tracks added

>> No.9676675

>>9675343
The designs always looked like complete shit.

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>>9676592
>I know that Bowser and Jr are heavier, but what's the difference between the other 3?

Mario + Luigi = average acceleration, second fastest class behind DK jr. + Bowser, middle weight class
Princess + Yoshi = Fastest acceleration, slower than Mario + Luigi, lighter than Mario + Luigi (can be knocked around easier)
Bowser + DK jr. = Slowest acceleration, fastest top speed, heaviest class, hardest to corner with
Koopa + Toad = second fastest acceleration, slowest top speed, lightest class, best cornering. The best class to start with.

>> No.9676727

>>9676702
to add onto this, the game was balanced around 100cc, at 150cc Koopa and Toad are the best characters again

>> No.9676734

I always thought it was weird they put Jr. in instead of the original DK.

>> No.9676751

>>9676734
wasnt it legal issues

>> No.9676759

>>9676734
Jr had been a playable character. And this was before DKC.

>> No.9676790

>>9676759
>And this was before DKC.
I know, that's why I said "original DK" referring to the arcade one. I figured he'd have a bigger priority than his son.

>> No.9676791

>>9675343
Yes, exactly.

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>Let me guess, you need more?

>> No.9677024 [DELETED] 

>>9677004
>>>/v/

>> No.9677032

>>9676734
It was the 10 year anniversary of the DK Jr arcade game at that time

>> No.9677053

>>9675593
How did you know this? I now have to undergo brainwashing to forget this info.

>> No.9677095

>>9676220
Yes exactly, I want a racing game to require skill in racing execution, not use of gim power-ups. Kart racers are to real racing game what Smash is to real fighters.

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9677309

This was ridiculously good, especially in 2 player

>> No.9677508

>>9675343
Why is that koopa not yellow?

>> No.9677874

>>9676727
Yeah Toad and Koopa did have the most control during a drift. They were too good, made the rest of the cast irrelevant.
>>9677095
definite skill issue
sounds like you need to (spoilers) git gud (/spoilers)
>>9677508
shit son they switched timelines again

>> No.9678719

Wario wasn't yet a thing, once he was created Koopa Troopa got kicked out. As far as DK Jr., there are conflicting official responses as to w hy he was chosen. One because the shirt made him easier to identify and second it was the anniversary of DK Jr.
But in general Nintendo liked DK Jr. He made an appearance in Mario's Tennis on Virtual Boy instead of DK and when he seemed to have been completely replaced by Rare DK, he appeared again in the game & Watch gallery games and Mario Tennis 64 which is his last appearance. I personally think Jr. is better than most of Rares original characters do not copy. Outside Diddy/Cranky/Dixxie I don't really care about any of the others, perhaps Funky for how ridiculous he looks.

>> No.9678771

it's impossible for some newer characters like rosalina to be appealing in 4th or 5th gen nintendo art styles

>> No.9678864

>>9678719
I still stick to my headcanon that current DK is grown up Jr.

>> No.9678870

>>9677874
>(spoilers)
Lol
Anyways, I am good. I just mostly prefer games that take more skill, not saying you need to.

>> No.9678982

>>9675402
The franchise had a really limited roster at the time of SMK's release.
>Can't use SMB2USA characters because the game hadn't been released yet in Japan
>Can't have two Kongs and it's DKJr's 10th year anniversary
>Can't use Lady (Pauline) because she's still blonde and looks too much like Peach before her redesign
>No Stanley because everyone wants to forget about DK3
>Foreman Spike is too obscure
>only enemy that is more iconic than the Koopa Troopa is the Goomba, but it has no arms
So they're basically stuck with Daisy, Tatanga, or a Koopaling. Tatanga was still a one-off character and his design isn't very striking. It looked like someone spent 30 seconds creating him. While Daisy made a small reappearance in a golf game, most players only recognize her and Tatanga from their tiny B&W GB sprites. A Koopaling would have made a great alternative to the Troopa but it might look like a heavy and they needed someone to match a small guy like Toad. I guess that's how they settled with such a bland driver character.

In retrospect, they could have given Daisy Peach's driving style and Yoshi Toad's style.

>> No.9679019

>>9678982
Kamek
Football chuck
Hammer bro
Dino
Marty
Stanley
Koopaling
Winged wiggler

>> No.9679353

I kinda hate the physics of the original Mario Kart. The worst thing is how it perceives falling into holes. Go anywhere near the corner of the hole and you'll fall, even if logic would dictate that almost the entirety of your character is still firmly on the road. It makes a potentially fun track like Rainbow Road a fucking slog.

>> No.9679571
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>>9678864
>I still stick to my headcanon that current DK is grown up Jr.

I think that was the original plan for Rare's Donkey Kong. I am pretty sure there are some pre-release remnants of Donkey Kong being refereed to as the son of Cranky Kong. But Miyamoto apparently hated the change, because it meant that they would discard his original DK jr. design for Rare's CG renders. So Donkey Kong was made Cranky's grandson instead. Cranky is/ was suppose to be the original DK.

>> No.9679605

>>9679571
I heard that originally DKC was supposed to feature a team of DK and Jr, but the Jr redesign was too radical for Nintendo, so Rare turned that character into Diddy and made DK the son/grandson of the original DK.

>> No.9679619

>>9679605
>I heard that originally DKC was supposed to feature a team of DK and Jr, but the Jr redesign was too radical for Nintendo, so Rare turned that character into Diddy and made DK the son/grandson of the original DK.

That probably is what happened. I have always heard the main reason why they changed it was because Miyamoto not being happy with the change. Which is why the original Jr. design still exists.

>> No.9679628

>>9677053
Don't forget you are here forever manually.

>> No.9679672

>>9677874
Press f for no koopa in Mario Kart 64.

I don't know why but koopa was so much cooler than toad.

>> No.9679694

>>9677053
The truth is I didn't KNOW, it was a feeling. I looked it up after and was mostly right. Intuitition trumps raw rational processing power when it comes to speed and knowing when something is fucky.

Oh yeah and also I'm here forever and so are you.

>> No.9679698

>>9675451
Wario COULD be in the game. Sort of how Tails appeared in Sonic 2 for the Game Gear before the big home console game

>> No.9679713

>>9679353
Skill issue, you can jump over small holes and their corners

>> No.9679720

>>9679713
Sure, you can jump over them, but that doesn't change the fact that your kart shouldn't fall in a hole just because 1 pixel is off the road.

>> No.9679732

When I played 2 player gran prix mode, if it was clear that I couldn't get first place over the other player, I'd intentionally slow down before the finish to come in third
That way if the next course was one like a ghost house where you can fall off the edge I'd get the chance to turbo boost off the line and punt the other player off the course

>> No.9679816

>>9678870
Super Mario Kart takes plenty of skill to git gud, you're just clearly very bad at the game and coping very poorly with this fact.

>> No.9679823

>>9679353
you need to work on getting better and stop making excuses for poor play

>> No.9680801

>>9675343
>no Link
>no Zelda
>no Wart
>no Birdo
>no Mouser
epic fail

>> No.9681309

>>9675343
Boring game not a racer

>> No.9681592

>No Sonic
Dropped

>> No.9681969

>>9675343
>Mario
The most boring person at the party. Alternatively someone's friend or relative who doesn't play games and just went with the game's equivalent of Mickey Mouse.
>Luigi
This guy plays Mario games but is still a casual. He wants to avoid the stigma of being the boring Mario player, so he picks Luigi instead, making him slightly less boring.
>Peach
Exclusively plays the game by himself, not having to worry about being mocked for picking the girl. Alternatively, someone's sister who picked up the game once, thought it was confusing and was never invited again.
>Yoshi
The party's merciless host. He played it enough times to know what he is doing. Alternatively, some kid who only played SMW and thought that picking the "horse" would make him go faster.
>Bowser
Someone who picked Bowser entirely due to his design. Doesn't care about how well he is doing, he just wants to become Bowser for a moment in his life. And just like that, he will grow up to become a bara scalie.
>DK Jr
Massive DKC fan who hasn't realized yet that this isn't Donkey Kong. Will probably ask why his design looks so weird. Alternatively, someone who only picked him so he can constantly bump into others for laughs.
>Koopa
He wanted to be special. Thought that nobody else picked the random Mario enemy and wished to become THE Koopa player. Probably has some embarrassing drawing of a Koopa OC hidden in his room.
>Toad
The wildcard. He will either go faster than Yoshi players or drive backwards for a laugh. In any case, you shouldn't lower your guard around him.

>> No.9682535

>>9681969
Oh my god, someone did this and didn't use the "ha ha gay" shit for Yoshi.
It's a miracle.

>> No.9682572

>>9682535
This was before Yoshi's Story ruined him forever.

>> No.9682660

>>9682572
True, good observation.

>> No.9682751

>>9679816
Nice try kidgloves.

>> No.9682896

>>9681969
>>Koopa
>He wanted to be special. Thought that nobody else picked the random Mario enemy and wished to become THE Koopa player. Probably has some embarrassing drawing of a Koopa OC hidden in his room.

I had Super Mario Kart back in the day. use to play the shit out of the game. Including knocking out some of the fastest times I could in the time trial mode. Two player battle mode was a constant thing I would play with my friends and siblings. From my own experience, everyone wanted to play as Koopa. Koopa was the most selected character in the original Super Mario Kart roster. It was a combination of Koopa just being really easy to control, and didn't look as lame as Toad. There would be fights over who got to be Koopa. Toad being the alternative to Koopa would be the constellation prize. The Koopa victory theme is permanently etched into my brain because I use to hear it so much playing Mario Kart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfjCiy39pnA

>> No.9682953

>>9682896
>It was a combination of Koopa just being really easy to control, and didn't look as lame as Toad.
How the fuck was Toad lame? He was the strongest and fastest character in Mario 2. Toad was always my main.

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>Let me guess, you need more?