Fighting Games

[Anonymous No.9668503]

Discuss fighting games here.

>what are you playing
>are you learning a new character
>are you able to play it with other players? (not cpus)

Playing fighting games with other people on the couch is pretty uncommon for me these days. That being said I played Virtua Fighter Remix with a friend today and it was a lot of fun. Picked up Rival Schools for the first time in a long time too.

[Anonymous No.9668507]

>>9668503
>Virtue Meme
Looks more like a Sega cope thread. No one wants to play as those generic looking shit characters and the gameplay is boring

[Anonymous No.9668508]

>>9668507
5 is also by far the best VF whose newest versions aren't even retro

[Anonymous No.9668510]

Smash bros as always

[Anonymous No.9668514]

>>9668507
VF is awesome, fuck you

[Anonymous No.9668520]

>>9668510
This but unironically. I like being allowed to run and jump around without any constraints because I can do that in a real fight too

[Anonymous No.9668534]

>>9668503
What's the generally agreed upon best VF game? Been wanting to try the series out.

[Anonymous No.9668536]

>>9668534
5 if not nostalgiafagging

[Anonymous No.9668540]

4 Evo > 5

[Anonymous No.9668543]

>>9668520
Name a fighting game that doesn't let you run or jump

[Anonymous No.9668546]

>>9668543

[Anonymous No.9668556]

>>9668546
Now that I think about it, there's a lot of fighting games that don't let you jump. Boxing games for one

[Anonymous No.9668589]

Not sure if it counts but I enjoyed TMNT(2003) as I used to play it with a friend split-screen on the same keyboard.

[Anonymous No.9668607]

>>9668540
YAHOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.9668620]

>>9668507
Hi, tekken 3 spammer

[Anonymous No.9668635]

I'm playing SP content in SoulCaliburs in release order now and my jaw dropped transitioning from Edge to Calibur 1. Calibur 1 is so fast and fun, the movement feels so free and 3 dimensional, it looks a bit basic but plays absolutely amazing. Never played the game back in the day, skipped from Edge to Calibur 2 as I'm sure many people did

[Anonymous No.9668654]

>>9668508
>>9668534
vf4evo and final tuned are where the series peaked imo. Supposedly VF3 has a small online fanbases.
i didn't care for the new characters in VF5 other than Jean, who was a later addition. It was still the most complete hand to hand 3d fighter of its generation though.
>>9668503
cool illustration
>>9668507
>getting filtered by fuzzy guard bufferred throw escapes
sorry lad ngmi

[Anonymous No.9668827]

>>9668503
What was the name of that lewd 2D sprite based fighting game consisting of girls who were waitresses or something?

[Anonymous No.9669369]

Fighting games? Love em.

[Anonymous No.9669501]

The genre peaked with Tekken 3 and VF4

[Anonymous No.9669520]

>>9669369
>Double cameltoe
bueno

[Anonymous No.9669529]

I picked up the Samurai Shodown Neo Geo Collection recently, since it was on sale. Lots of nostalgia for the arcades, and I'm remembering why they were fun. I'm going to need to put in more hours to really see how much I like the system overall; smacking the CPU with jumping heavy attacks is only entertaining for so long.

>>9668827
>What was the name of that lewd 2D sprite based fighting game consisting of girls who were waitresses or something?
Google suggests Variable Geo: Waitress Battle?

[Anonymous No.9669606]

>>9669529
Shit. For some reason I was typing in students instead of waitresses. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.9669617]

>>9669529
>I picked up the Samurai Shodown Neo Geo Collection recently, since it was on sale. Lots of nostalgia for the arcades, and I'm remembering why they were fun
if you wanna fightcade sometime I'm down, samsho has a nice little scene there

[Anonymous No.9669726]

>>9668543
Didn't say others don't let you, you can do it more freely in Smssh though

[Anonymous No.9669827]

What's a good fighting game to start with if you haven't really played the genre? Anything with good tutorials and training mode?

[Anonymous No.9670062]

>>9669827
VF4 has one of the best tutorial modes of any game. Retro fighters don't tend to have them since you were expected to earn your chops in the arcade.

Non-retro, GG Xrd has a great tutorial

[Anonymous No.9670158]

>>9670062
VF4 Evo specifically

[Anonymous No.9670991]

V-day SF2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKt217-kEiI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BMeh-Uz07E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PphFlWOOJ8E

>>9669827
VF has good tuts

[Anonymous No.9671067]

Third Strike as always. Sometimes me and the boys play TMNT:Tournament Fighters.

[Anonymous No.9671076]

I found this while digging through DHGF issues. Some of the first media shown for the game, no Akira and Shiba in the cast.

[Anonymous No.9671861]

>>9668514
>>9668620
Cope

[Anonymous No.9671863]

[Anonymous No.9671868]

>>9668507
go back to smash faggot

[Anonymous No.9671883]

>>9668508
>>9668536
Is that why Sega keeps remaking the game?

[Anonymous No.9671885]

>>9668503
I mostly play 2d fighters. What do I need to learn for 3d fighters like VF and Tekken?

[Anonymous No.9671891]

>>9671885
They're just mashers

[Anonymous No.9671896]

Tekken: Strong defensive options, great movement, requires good execution. You HAVE to be good at sidestep cancelling and Korean backdashing to get around the stage and avoid getting hit because stepping isn't binary (more on this in a second). You generally can't just run in the other guy's face constantly because you'll be killing yourself unless you know exactly what you're doing and have conditioned fear into the opponent. When you make a good move away from the opponent and go for a whiff punish or sidestep and go for a punish, you get a launch and then can get huge damage. This means defense is very strong and important because this discourages all out gorilla defense. You also have to manage resources in the form of rage. Do you keep rage for the passive damage buff or do you spend it on your plus on block rage drive for more pressure? Decisions, decisions!

Virtua Fighter: All out aggression game with plus on block guard breaks, sidesteps you can barely punish with anything (just get frame advantage), and ridiculously strong OS to cover basically everything, so defense isn't even a real thing, you're not committing to shit. VF has binary stepping and easy backdashes. It used to have actual good movement in VF3, but then they took it out to appease casuals and to piss off the Koreans. Now the whole game is just easy input easy dodge easy offense. VF is a more casual Tekken basically. The characters generally have fewer moves and there is less knowledge you need due to fewer characters. Virtua Fighter is all about mixups. Defending is a boring OS-fest with basically no meaningful neutral game. This is why VF was known as the anime player's 3D game. Every engagement in Virtua Fighter is "5 way mixup vs 3 way option select" until the round is over. Has Smash ringouts, too.

If you like neutral oriented games with lots of movement and spacing ala Street Fighter, play Tekken. If you like anime pressure mash exchanging frame data into oki ala Guilty Gear, play VF.

[Anonymous No.9671903]

How to cope when your favorite character sucks?

[Anonymous No.9671940]

>>9671896
Defensive mechanics in 3D fighters by game

>Tekken:
175 health
no defense values
no weight values
has back dash canceling (slow)
no air recover
power crush
low parry
side step/walk (no 8 way movement)
average moves per character less than 100
execution required - low

>Soul Calibur:
240 health
guts % based defense scaling
no weight
has back dash canceling
air recover (limited)
armored attacks (auto GI)
GI
clash
reversal edge
side step/walk (8 way movement)
average moves per character about 120
execution required - low

>Virtua Fighter:
220 health
no defense value
character specific weight values
no back dash canceling
no air recover
quick recover
throw tech buffering
box step
side step (8 way movement)
average moves per character about 160
execution required - high

>Bloody Roar:
200 health
character specific defense value (further modified by form)
character specific weight values (further modified by form)
has back dash canceling (fast)
air recover
quick recover
burst (beastorize)
burst (hyper)
throw tech buffering
guard command install
white life regeneration (beast only)
hitstun decay
gravity scaling
evade/parry
instant air evade
guard attack
flash parry
just defend/dash guard
light guard
heavy guard
air guard
fuse
clash
defensive install (character specific eg: power block, super armor)
side step/walk (8 way movement)
average moves per character over 200+
execution required - very high

>DoA:
300 health
no defense value
character specific weight values
has back dash canceling
no air recover
holds
freestep
side step/walk (8 way movement)
average moves per character about 130
execution required - mid

[Anonymous No.9671949]

>>9671896
>tekken
>strong defensive options
lol nice one.
so dancing in and out of range fishing for a launcher or crushing blow counts as a well implemented out defensive system?

[Anonymous No.9671950]

>>9671896
>tekken
>strong defence
>great movement
LMAO

[Anonymous No.9671959]

>>9671896
LMAOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.9671970]

>>9671903
Do you train with your favorite often?

[Anonymous No.9671971]

>>9669726
It's not even jumping at that point, Smash lets you practically fly and some characters literally can.

[Anonymous No.9671972]

>>9671883
Nobody knows what the fuck Sega is doing, they are run by absolute morons. Re-releasing a remaster of such an old fighting game exclusively on a Sonybox was one of the most ?????? moves of the decade

But coincidentally, there probably isn't much they could do to improve on 5R

[Anonymous No.9671981]

>>9671903
pick a new character who is stronger

[Anonymous No.9671982]

>>9671959
Those little on hit explosions, its such a genius gimmick. So good.

[Anonymous No.9671987]

>>9671896
Sorry but Tekken will never be anything more than a mindless button masher made for casuals, meanwhile Virtua Fighter is a masterpiece and the epitome of skill.

[Anonymous No.9672006]

>>9671987
Are we playing the same games here?

[Anonymous No.9672008]

>>9671972
Just wait until April where they'll announce yet another VF5 rehash or little more than an expansion to their Ultimate Letdown

[Anonymous No.9672012]

>>9671959
lmao tekken really is just a casual button masher, they weren't lying.

[Anonymous No.9672018]

>>9672006
Did you mean to post a webm that proves him right...?

[Anonymous No.9672024]

>>9672018
Virtua Cucks actually think these webms make Virtua Fighter look better than Tekken when they show VF for the joke anisoy party masher game it is. Look at the Tekken footage. Amazing spacing and movement, whiff punishing, everything. Look at how he ducked that and whiff punished it (it was a read given how fast that exchange was, but still, galaxy brained stuff). Anyone who is actually good at fighters sees that and goes "holy shit, look at this neutral!". Then the VF one is literally a joke of mash and option selects.

>whiffing random launchers at fullscreen in case they hit (something VF cucks accuse Tekken of being)
>dashing up
>then taking turns model to model mashing buttons (on offense), and ETEG and other option selects (on "defense")

VF cucks think this makes them look GOOD LOL. Their "argument" is:

>DUDE KBD LOOKS WEIRD LOL XD
>AND LAZERS?? IN A FIGHTING GAME? MUH REALISM

You want real spacing and neutral in a 3D game? Play Tekken. 7 was dumbed down but it still has way more neutral and meaningful interactions than VF, it also has better netcode. Unfortunately Tekken (before 7) was really the only 3D fighting game that required any skill whatsoever, there is now no reason to play 3D now that Tekken was dumbed down to being only 10 times as complex as other 3D games instead of 100 times more as it was before.

[Anonymous No.9672026]

>>9671940
What are (You) doing here?
Kekken
>lost its soul over time
>8 suffered the same fate as DnF Duel: dead on arrival
SoftCore
>died after 5
>never had the same director for more than one game
>hired hentai artists to try to keep the franchise afloat, failed
>literally just a dress up game/softcore porn sim now
>"they just renewed a bunch of titles, they're totally going to make a new SC" and it turns out it's only a mobile game collab
Virtua Pogger
>a laughing stock for a "pioneer"
>killed by kekken 3
>some arcade releases never made it to consoles
>most only know it through Yakuza
>resorted to kekken skins to try to stay relevant, failed
>older games ported to fightcade, no one plays them
>the only reason people even pretend to like it is because of vanessa the echidna, not-samus from doa5 and for some reason the unlikeable rich faggot drawn as a femboy by a drawfag who totally isn't baron you guys
>the "most popular game among the nipponese" yet has the least amount of players at evo japan
>"oh my effing science, it's a maingame at evo japan (an event for non-gamers), they're totally going to announce VF6! oh but they changed the game a bit... and there's also hitsparks in my realistic game with flying ninjas and metal women... VF7 when?"
Bloated Roar
>literally who furry masher that will never get a sequel
Dead on Arrival
>became a p2w cashgrab
>overshadowed by the tiddyball spinoffs
>the newly announced reboot will be even more watered down

[Anonymous No.9672029]

>>9672024
Why Virtua Fighter Is More Important Than Tekken:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S6jPVBNJO8

Why Virtua Fighter is Deeper than Tekken:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr4lYtoqWB0

Why Virtua Fighter is chess to other fighting game's chequers:
https://www.eurogamer.net/virtua-fighter-4-evolution-retrospective

[Anonymous No.9672030]

>>9672029
Do you have a video on why is Virtua Fighter dead and why people were winning bag of rice at Evo Japan?
https://twitter.com/TetsukoYamada/status/1218393923095126016

[Anonymous No.9672032]

Ignore the tekken shill, its literally just one mentally ill guy from /vg/ who was originally from /tekgen/ but since no one gives a shit about tekken the general died so now he just tries to shill his casual button masher on /v/ and /fgg/, guess he finally found /vr/ too.

[Anonymous No.9672035]

>>9672029
The Good-Ass Game That Reclaimed Its Throne: The Story of Tekken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW8edbQ1zzY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZK6TAZvWmw

[Anonymous No.9672036]

>>9672029
Virtua Fighter did not invent ring outs
Virtua Fighter did not invent juggling
Virtua Fighter was not the first fighting game to play down projectiles
Virtua Fighter did not Invent 3D fighting games
Virtua Fighter was not the first 3D fighting game
Virtua Fighter was not even Sega's first 3D fighting game
Virtua Fighter was not Sega's first 3D game
Virtua Fighter was not Sega's flagship 3D game
Virtua Fighter did not influence the gaming industry
Virtua Fighter is not the reason Quake exists
Virtua Fighter was not the reason why consoles moved to 3D
Virtua Fighter is not technical, complex or deep

Stop trying to lie and spread misinformation you can and WILL be refuted!

3D fighting game from 1979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUp0lzFiscs
Juggles in a fighting game from 1991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl6wu0aXuLU
3D fighting game that used polygons in 1991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWkOdpg5Ru0

[Anonymous No.9672037]

LOLS

Why do you guys keep posting this dude?

Have you ever actually watched his channel?

He's a literal 40 year old boomer. He doesn't complete. He just talks about arcade mdoes now. He had a son and barely even plays video games anymore. All he talks about now is Shenmue.

This is the typical VF "player"
Has not attended a tournament since the 1990s and yet deludes themselves into thinking they're an expert on the genre of fighting games.

This ties into the famous quote.

VF will be "remembered"
Tekken will be played.

[Anonymous No.9672040]

well done you triggered the mentally ill tekken shill

[Anonymous No.9672042]

>>9672032
Because it was a Tekken shill pretending to be multiple arcade-savvy boomers or for some odd reason a gay drawfag to make it seem more popular than it is

[Anonymous No.9672047]

[Anonymous No.9672048]

[Anonymous No.9672051]

>inb4 "that's just one website"

[Anonymous No.9672052]

[Anonymous No.9672060]

Tekkucks and Virtuacorpses bow down to the real best 3D fighter

[Anonymous No.9672063]

>>9672060
You know there will never be a BR5, right?

[Anonymous No.9672065]

>>9672047
>>9672048
>>9672051
>>9672052
VF sisters...

[Anonymous No.9672067]

>>9672063
As demonstrated by BR4, the only way to go after you reach the top is down

[Anonymous No.9672068]

>>9672067
Has it ever been on top?

[Anonymous No.9672096]

>>9668503
I know this isn't the beat-em up thread but I need help.
Friend wants to play the X-men beat-em up with me in co-op online.
What is the best way to do this currently in terms of:
Client (FBNeo? MAME?)
Online Connection (Parsec? Kaillera?)
Game Version (i2P, 4P or 6P)
It'd just be the two of us.
If there is a better place to ask questions like this, please point it out to me. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.9672110]

>falling for tekken 3 spammer bait

[Anonymous No.9672165]

>>9672036
>Virtua Fighter was not Sega's flagship 3D game

It was for a short while, during the Saturn years. Or at least, Sega was pushing Virtua Fighter to be a primer series on the Saturn. Sega was pushing an anime series in Japan and promoting the series pretty heavily. They really thought it could be another 'Street Fighter II' in terms of popularity.

>>9672036
>Virtua Fighter did not influence the gaming industry

It did have some influence on 3D fighting game genre.

>>9672036
>Virtua Fighter was not even Sega's first 3D fighting game

Are you talking about Dark Edge, which was a pre cursor to Virtua Fighter. Virtua Fighter was their first polygon 3D fighting game. It wasn't their first 3D game in general, as model 1 debuted with Virtua Racing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBXZ9f-dCMM

>>9672036
>Virtua Fighter was not the reason why consoles moved to 3D

Wasn't it the main reason why Sony decided to focus on 3D with the PS1? Or just, model 1 games in general.

[Anonymous No.9672168]

>>9672165
>ignoring the other links

[Anonymous No.9672184]

>vr
>hates on FGC
>larps as FGC
And then there is this smash faggot >>9672110 who spams the same shit every time he sees Tekken 3 mentioned

[Anonymous No.9672189]

tekken schizo shitting up another thread trying to force his kusoge on everyone, literally having a god damn meltdown because people have the audacity to play other 3D fightng games.

[Anonymous No.9672191]

>>9672189
Its funny, I never used to hate Tekken till he showed up.

[Anonymous No.9672192]

>>9672189
>>9672191
Why are you samefagging tho?

[Anonymous No.9672197]

>>9672189
Enjoy your dead mashers then

[Anonymous No.9672309]

3D fighting games power rankings

Bloody Roar > Virtua Fighter > Soulcalibur > Project Justice > Plasma Sword > Power Stone > Psychic Force > DoA > Fighting Vipers > Ehrgeiz > Tekken > Kakuto Chojin > Tobal > MKD > KoF: Maximum Impact > Sonic the Fighters > MKA > Mace the Dark Age > Fighters Impact > Battle Arena Toshinden > Kensei: Sacred Fist > Sonic the Fighters > War Gods > Tao Feng > Masters of Teras Kasi > Criticom > Balls 3D

[Anonymous No.9672310]

>>9671891
You can't mash in VF.

[Anonymous No.9672316]

tekken is the only 3D fighter where mashing is a legit strategy

[Anonymous No.9672319]

Man it's so good enjoying all fighting games, played some ST, 3rd Strike, SamShoVs, Toy Fighter, MK1, Project Justice and Soulcalibur on fightcade and had blast with them all.
>>9672096
Fightcade bro, you're gonna need xmen.zip and x-men2pe.zip roms.

[Anonymous No.9672342]

>>9671903
Lab the shit outta them or drop them in-favor of a good character.

[Anonymous No.9672350]

>Fighting game thread
>Smashfag is mad at Tekken again

[Anonymous No.9672352]

>>9672350
>tekken shill still samefagging hours later

[Anonymous No.9672357]

>>9672310
You mash buttons to recover from a stun

[Anonymous No.9672371]

>>9672316
That is correct for every fighting game if both players are shit and button mashing is all they can do.
>VF
>1 1 1 combo
>2 2 2 combo

[Anonymous No.9672382]

>>9672309
It goes like VF4 > Tekken 3 > the rest in whatever order.

[Anonymous No.9672459]

>Smashfag
>makes shill threads like >>9657642
>snaps when someone mentions Tekken
>tells the same two stories how he beat his ps1 owner friend in Tekken by button mashing once and how he wasn't triggered by Tekken until he saw a Tekken thread on /vr/
>tries to falseflag Tekkenchads and VFbros into a war

[Anonymous No.9672489]

>>9672459
>>tries to falseflag Tekkenchads and VFbros into a war
For real, there was no beef historically

[Anonymous No.9672505]

>>9672459
>>9672489
Where can I read the rest of your fanfiction?

[Anonymous No.9672526]

>>9672489
TFW no Saturn VF3 port to console war about it on /vr/ 25 years later.

[Anonymous No.9672928]

>>9668510
>>9668520
>>9669726
>>9668507
>>9672352
Get out

[Anonymous No.9672982]

>>9672096
Fightcade. It's not just for fighting games, it does easy netplay for any game in FBNeo, Snes9x, and Flycast.
Also note FBNeo isn't just for arcade games, it also supports NES, Master System, Genesis, PC Engine, and others. And Flycast isn't only Dreamcast, it also supports Naomi and Atomiswave arcade games (not supported by FBNeo).
I just say this because all of this surprised me. I thought Fightcade was only for fighting arcade games or something, until I looked into it.

[Anonymous No.9673090]

>>9672357
That's recovering though, not fighting.

[Anonymous No.9673289]

>>9668503
I remember playing Virtual Fighter 2, had a huge crush on Sarah. I loved the soundtrack to it too and I loved the presentation, it had a very arcade feel to it. Fighting Vipers ended up being my favorite game on Saturn, especially the Japanese version where you play as Pepsiman.

[Anonymous No.9673331]

>>9673289
>Fighting Vipers
I think it's the most technically impressive 3D fighter on home consoles around its time.

[Anonymous No.9673387]

>>9671959
Tekken and VF are literally rythym games. KOF and Alpha series will forever standalone as the peak of fighting games. 3D mashers are for braindead casuals

[Anonymous No.9673418]

>>9672382
lolno

[Anonymous No.9673434]

>>9673090
Still a mechanic in the game

[Anonymous No.9673440]

>>9673387
>KOF and Alpha
Both dead

[Anonymous No.9673447]

>>9672309
SFEX@+ mogs all of those

[Anonymous No.9673448]

>>9673440
You're on a retro game board, friend.

[Anonymous No.9673454]

>>9673447
SFEX isnt even a 3D game its a 2D game using 3D models, also its fucking shit and objectively worse than almost everything on that list.

[Anonymous No.9673457]

>>9673440
>Tekken alive cause it's for casual kiddies who mash buttons
Ok? KOF and Alpha still shit on the newest iteration of your dogshit series. Imagine that, games from 30 years ago are vastly superior to your favorite gay game. Sad!

[Anonymous No.9673462]

>>9673457
How much nostalgia flavored copium are you huffing? You're just as sad as the VF shills.

[Anonymous No.9673469]

why are tekken fanboys like this?

[Anonymous No.9673470]

>>9673462
>nostalgia as an insult
Back to /v/ homo. Go mash buttons over there with the other cocksuckers that play your gay game. Take the segafags with you

[Anonymous No.9673473]

>>9673469
collective inferiority complex from years of playing the most simple low iq, low skill ceiling fighting game on the market while also getting cucked by SF and MK none stop.

[Anonymous No.9673475]

>>9673473
why are mk fanboys like this?

[Anonymous No.9673479]

>>9673473
But enough about VF shills

[Anonymous No.9673485]

>>9673454
>SFEX isnt even a 3D game its a 2D game using 3D models

[Anonymous No.9673492]

>>9673475
MK fanboys are generally chill and don't care about tribalism and game wars

[Anonymous No.9673502]

>>9673485
are you seriously trying to imply akumas asura warp is a side step or something the whole cast can do, have you even played the shitty game you are trying to defend??????

[Anonymous No.9673507]

>>9673502
I am replying to the retard who said that EX is a 2D game.

[Anonymous No.9673513]

>>9673473
Tekken is just MK for weebs. MK is just Tekken for capefags. Both are shitty button mashers with zero skill involved.

[Anonymous No.9673515]

>>9673507
EX is a 2D game, are you fucking retarded or is this bait? do you think SF4 is a 3D game too?

[Anonymous No.9673518]

>>9673502
How many VF2 or Tekken 2 characters can sidestep?

[Anonymous No.9673519]

>>9673513
MK also mogs tekken in sales every time which makes tekken faggots seethe uncontrollably since they like to bring up sales whenever anyone points out how shit its gameplay is.

[Anonymous No.9673523]

>>9673507
Not him, but you need to separate gameplay from graphics. It plays like a 2D fighter that has 3D character models, not a 3d fighter. This should not be hard to understand...

[Anonymous No.9673524]

>>9673523
Answer this then >>9673518

[Anonymous No.9673531]

>>9673519
Smash mogs both which makes MK fags seethe because sales is the only thing that their casual button masher is known for.

[Anonymous No.9673534]

>>9673523
So, why do you think it plays like a 2d fighter?

[Anonymous No.9673536]

>>9673515
You can't sidestep in SF4, idiot

[Anonymous No.9673537]

Smash mogs everyone. Kekken's "sales" were mostly pirated

[Anonymous No.9673541]

But remember: it was some unrelated Smashfag whose game mogs absolutely everyone here orchestrating this game war lmfaoooooooo

[Anonymous No.9673542]

>>9673536
You cant side step in SFEX, try playing games before you talk about them, you dumb fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.9673546]

>>9673531
Found the seething tekkuck

[Anonymous No.9673549]

>>9673541
Schizo.
Smashchads are too chill to console war with you tekkensisters and mkcucks.

[Anonymous No.9673554]

>>9673542
See >>9673485 you blind retard. And then answer how many characters in VF2 and Tekken 2 can do the same.

[Anonymous No.9673559]

>>9673549
I was calling this thread out for blaming Smashfags on the infighting they themselves cause

[Anonymous No.9673560]

>>9673554
low effort bait, put some effort into it next time.

[Anonymous No.9673561]

garbage thread please nuke

[Anonymous No.9673562]

>>9673554
That... doesn't make any of them 3D

[Anonymous No.9673567]

>>9673559
That's tekkenfags and mkfags

[Anonymous No.9673568]

>>9673562
You mean, VF2 is not 3D?

[Anonymous No.9673572]

>>9673567
That's everyone here who isn't a Smashchad
>>9673568
It's not even 2D. It's a fucking tech demo lmfaooooo

[Anonymous No.9673579]

>>9672024
VF as amazing animations that don't need 2d explosion sprites to hide the shitty collisions. VF looks like a work of art next to Tekken.

[Anonymous No.9673585]

>>9673561
>gets BTFOd
>"janny-sama... pls save me..."
Pathetic

[Anonymous No.9673590]

>>9673579
I detect a hint of cope in this post

[Anonymous No.9673595]

>>9673579
>VF
>amazing animations
lmao

[Anonymous No.9673603]

[Anonymous No.9673608]

>>9672067
this but BR2

[Anonymous No.9673621]

>SF EX is not a 3D ga...
https://itsfantastic.moe/street-fighter-ex-developer-interview/

[Anonymous No.9673629]

>>9673608
BR3 is better than BR2

[Anonymous No.9673631]

>>9673603
Both are great. Seethe, Smashfag

[Anonymous No.9673637]

>>9673629
I don't even play BR but I love how BRos are just vibin here.

[Anonymous No.9673664]

>>9668503
>what are you playing
Cyberbots
>are you learning a new character
No because I love hearing Devilotte go kyaa~ for her crush 63 y/o war veteran
Besides her mech is cool
>are you able to play it with other players? (not cpus)
No :(

[Anonymous No.9673668]

>>9673595
Certainly not Tekken

[Anonymous No.9673674]

>>9673668
tekken having shit animations doesn't magically make VF awful animations good, both are fucking terrible, both were made by the same people.

[Anonymous No.9673683]

>>9673637
How does it feel to know there will never be a BR5?

[Anonymous No.9673689]

>>9673674
Tekken 3 was praised by contemporary gaming press for its usage of mocap animation but you wasn't even born yet to know this.

[Anonymous No.9673695]

>>9673664
You can play Cyberbots on fightcade with other people

[Anonymous No.9673697]

>>9673689
LMAO

[Anonymous No.9673708]

>>9673697
I know a couple of Russians that can do this if you give them a pint

[Anonymous No.9673710]

>>9673697
>Posts lazy cashgrab T7
So, I was right about your age

[Anonymous No.9673723]

>>9673697
what du fuck

[Anonymous No.9673724]

>>9673689
tekken 3 uses stock animations bought from a budget bundle, the same animations used in 1 and 2, and that was contined to be used all the way up to 7.

This is why you see many budget 3D fighters have the same animations as tekken. sometimes they will even have moves with the same animations before they even appeared in tekken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT8xdOuE8mA

[Anonymous No.9673727]

>>9673710
its literally the same animation used since T1, you brain-damaged retarded zoomer.

[Anonymous No.9673730]

>>9673724
>he doesn't know that Minoru Suzuki and Osami Shibuya were mocapped for Tekken 3
Why are smash fags like this?

[Anonymous No.9673735]

>>9673710
tekken was always a lazy cash grab

[Anonymous No.9673739]

>>9673724
What youtube video did you get this fanfiction from?

[Anonymous No.9673742]

>>9673730
more games that use the same budget stock animations that tekken uses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZM4R68uIho

[Anonymous No.9673743]

>>9673695
I was thinking about local play with people I know
Playing with randoms over the net never interested me

[Anonymous No.9673747]

>>9673742
shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.9673750]

>>9673697
kek

[Anonymous No.9673797]

tekken is the most shilled fighting game ever, they notoriously had one of the largest marketing campaigns of all time funded by sony. this is why casuals lap it up while serious fighting game players avoid it and play more competitive fighting games.

[Anonymous No.9673809]

>>9673797
So much cope lmfaoooo
>while serious fighting game players avoid it and play more competitive fighting games.
Ah, like the party mashers and overrated Green Mario tech demos?

[Anonymous No.9673852]

>>9673608
>>9673629
>>9673637
The first 3 BRs are all top tier fighters

[Anonymous No.9673860]

>>9673852
You're being ironic, right?

[Anonymous No.9673868]

>>9673852
>that animation on the whiffed butt drop
SOUL

[Anonymous No.9673870]

>>9673852
This, the Bloody Roar games were far ahead of the curve back in the day, they still hold up really well even now.

[Anonymous No.9673896]

>>9673852
The level of depth in the bloody roar games dwarfs any other 3D fighter, crazy to think just how advanced these games were back in the late 90's

[Anonymous No.9673902]

>>9673852
BR is great but I can't forgive it for turning my friend into a furfag. If at least it was Alice he fapped to but nope it was the BOAR

[Anonymous No.9673915]

>>9673852

[Anonymous No.9673924]

My mind always conflates bloody roar with that gay dinosaur fighter since I played them both at roughly the same time period

[Anonymous No.9673926]

>>9673697
Sakurai even did a video about how this is "good". Did you see it?

[Anonymous No.9673935]

Everything about Bloody Roar was over the top and I fucking LOVE it, more 3D fighters need to branch out from generic/grounded martial arts, feels like 3D games have really stagnated, just look at the verity you get with 2D compared to 3D.

[Anonymous No.9673959]

>>9673331
Fighters Megamix, it's VF2+Fighting Vipers+Crazy bonus characters+sidestep, it's amazing.

[Anonymous No.9673986]

>>9673852
>>9673868
>>9673870
>>9673896
>>9673902
>>9673915
>>9673935
A game so "good" it's company died and it'll never get a fifth game

[Anonymous No.9673994]

>>9672060
>fighting game with furries
I'm in

[Anonymous No.9673995]

>tekken fanboy literally having a meltdown because people are enjoying games other than his rehashed cashgrab series
Ya love to see it.

[Anonymous No.9673997]

>>9668503

[Anonymous No.9674002]

>>9673697
Japanese muscles, folded over a 1000 times

[Anonymous No.9674005]

>>9673995
How does it feel knowing you will never get a BR5 or VF6?

[Anonymous No.9674027]

>>9674005
VF6 is already in development.

[Anonymous No.9674030]

>>9671885
Is there a lot of sidestepping in 3D games?

[Anonymous No.9674038]

I would love to learn to play MvC2, but there's like no info out there for new players on how to improve, neutral game, how/when to use assists, basic stuff like that. If you aren't already a master at that game you just won't get to play against another human, so I just have no idea how to get good.

[Anonymous No.9674039]

>>9674002
its called the origami technicu

[Anonymous No.9674042]

>>9674038
you learn by getting your ass whooped like the good ol days

[Anonymous No.9674046]

>>9674030
I find in most 3D games it has very little use because they overcorrect with the counters. You gotta get real lucky not to get hit with a horizontal

[Anonymous No.9674049]

>>9674027
You guys have been saying that for years. Expect little more than another VF5 rehash.

[Anonymous No.9674053]

Even the worst BR had some banger animations and great feedback

There are still online tournaments for the Xbox version of BRE

[Anonymous No.9674070]

>>9674005
now this is cope lmao, how does it feel knowing people would rather play a 20 year old game over your rehashed cash grab?

[Anonymous No.9674071]

i will forever seethe over how crapcom turned blanka into a retarded joke character after sf2

[Anonymous No.9674089]

>>9674005
>AAAAHHHH NOOOOOO YOU MUST CONSOOOOOOOMMMM
lmao

[Anonymous No.9674124]

>>9674053
I always thought BR was some shovelware shit back in the day and I tried 1 recently and oh my God it's amazing. Maybe other people thought the same? I played Primal Fury recently too and it's great.

Honestly, a BR Collection would probably be a big hit. Fuck, Breakers and Rumble Fish got people excited with those rereleases.

I fucking hate Konami. Fucking retard company.

[Anonymous No.9674182]

>>9674124
>I fucking hate Konami.
What does Konami have to do with BR? It's a Hudson IP.

[Anonymous No.9674194]

>>9674182
Konami absorbed all of Hudsons ip's

[Anonymous No.9674196]

>>9674194
Whoa, when did that happen?

[Anonymous No.9674203]

>>9674196
like over a decade ago

[Anonymous No.9674204]

>>9674203
Well, that actually explains why there's no new BR then.

[Anonymous No.9674246]

>>9674089
I accept your concession

[Anonymous No.9674326]

>>9673331
I agree. One of the best fighting games on the Saturn.

[Anonymous No.9674361]

>>9673331
>>9674326

How does Fighting Vipers compare to Fighters Megamix. I heard FM has FV characters, and always hear praise for FM, but rarely hear about FV.

[Anonymous No.9674362]

>half comments gone
wtf happened?

[Anonymous No.9674613]

>>9674046
Pity. I like the idea of side-stepping or having the opponent constantly move to keep you in front. Otherwise what's the point of a 3rd dimension? Also 3D fighters don't seem to jump much.

>>9674071
Grrrr.. Blanka is a Darkstalkers character forced into SF. Haha.

[Anonymous No.9674721]

>>9674361
Fighters Megamix is great, it has more fighters & features than Fighting Vipers. The only thing Fighting Vipers has over Fighters Megamix is Pesiman as a secret character in the Japanese version of the game. Other than that, Fighters Megamix is a much better game & has more variety.

[Anonymous No.9674723]

>>9674053
I'm hoping a small scene for BR2 forms once PS1 support is added to Fightcade.

[Anonymous No.9674836]

>>9674362
Nothing.
Just talk fighting games.

[Anonymous No.9675056]

>>9674613
You may enjoy Ehrgeiz if you like full 3D movement

[Anonymous No.9675086]

>>9674721
>Fighters Megamix is great, it has more fighters & features than Fighting Vipers. The only thing Fighting Vipers has over Fighters Megamix is Pesiman as a secret character in the Japanese version of the game. Other than that, Fighters Megamix is a much better game & has more variety.

Fighters MegaMix is running on a modified Fighting Viper game engine, so it plays a lot more like Fighting Vipers than it does Virtua Fighter. You can ignore the VF characters and play it like a Fighting Vipers game, as the armor and wall mechanics are still there. But Fighters Megamix also ads the VF2 roster with a partial VF3 moveset for each character. The game uses the VF3 sidestep mechanic. All hidden characters are AM2 created characters. the character Siba was going to be part of the original VF1 cast, but was cut from the game. there are characters from VF Kids, Janet from Virtua Cop 2, who plays like Aoi from VF3, the Daytona car, Bean and Bark from Sonic the Fighters. Fighters MegaMix was made exclusively for the Saturn, so there are no arcade versions of it. Nor was it ported anywhere else. Fighters Megamix feels like the leftovers from a bunch of other cancelled AM2 Saturn games. They were developing Sonic the Fighters for the Saturn, but that was cancelled. They were also developing Virtua Fighter 3 for the Saturn, and had working ports. But that was pushed to the DC. As for Fighting Vipers, I kinda like this series over VF in some ways. It's worth checking out the arcade or Saturn ports. Also, there is a Fighting Vipers 2 arcade game that was ported to the Dreamcast as well. Though FV2 never came out in NA, only Europe and Japan regions.

[Anonymous No.9675351]

[Anonymous No.9675359]

>>9675086
>Nor was it ported anywhere else.


I say this, but I keep forgetting that there was a Game.COM port of Fighters MegaMix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk314L9zZ-M&t=743s

[Anonymous No.9675930]

>>9674046
Tekken 3 sidesteps were perfect at both defensive and offensive. Later Tekken games with their huge ass hurtboxes ruined them to the point of being useless.

[Anonymous No.9675945]

>>9671903
Luv me sum Goh, the best representation of judo in the history of gaming. It's funny how Tekken tried to copy him with Dragunov but failed miserable to capture what made his judo fun.

[Anonymous No.9675957]

>>9675930
IMO the series peaked with T2 and T3. T4 was more experimental but got mogged by DoA3 and VF4 and since then Namco just kept rehashing T3, adding new moves and characters but dumbing down the gameplay further.

[Anonymous No.9675969]

>>9675957
The stupider it gets, the more popular it gets

[Anonymous No.9675971]

>>9675969
Many such cases

[Anonymous No.9675994]

>>9675945
Goh is cool but I refuse to play VF4 Evo because they removed Pai's DDT move. The most badass move in VF4 especially wall run variant when used with opponent back against the wall.

[Anonymous No.9676665]

My brother is hooked on this one

[Anonymous No.9676693]

>>9676665
>Spawn with no cape
>BUT with cape moves shit
You think they had it but couldn't get it working right so they cut it?

[Anonymous No.9676710]

>>9676665
Gamecube version, I hear, is the best one. I'm still looking for it.

[Anonymous No.9676716]

>>9676693
I thing you are right, they couldn't get the cape move right, so they were right removing the cape. My issue is:

>regular Spawn instead Medieval Spawn
for what purpose?

[Anonymous No.9676956]

>>9675086
Now I have a reason to buy a Japanese Dreamcast because I would love to play FV2.

[Anonymous No.9676963]

>>9676710
The Gamecube version is the only one worth getting physically, because digitally(XBLA and PSN) you can get Soul Calibur 2 with Spawn. But Link is exclusive to the Gamecube version.

[Anonymous No.9676976]

>>9676963
>>9676710
Link is fucking gay. Nintendofags were a mistake.

[Anonymous No.9676984]

>>9676710
Soul Calbur 2 HD is the best one since it has Heihachi and Spawn, sadly it never got a release on a Nintendo console so we never got a complete Soul Calibur 2.
>>9676716
People know who Spawn unlike Medieval Spawn.
>>9676956
In my opinion Fighting Viper 2 is a lackluster sequel, it's fine because it's basically still the first game but didn't do anything new and even removed the sidestep from Fighters Megamix, you can play it online through Fightcade though.

[Anonymous No.9677342]

Played Tekken 7 until getting to top 500 in the world.

Played vf3 arcade

Animation, side step and response are light years ahead of any Tekken

Wish I was good enough to play vf. Vf3 feels timeless

[Anonymous No.9677372]

>>9677342
>Wish I was good enough to play vf. Vf3 feels timeless
Lol

[Anonymous No.9677387]

>>9677372
Unironically. There is a skill ceiling for vf that takes it to the next level.
Sadly I feel like vf needs a strong online community to git gud

I say this as someone who has no issue wave dashing, iWS and hitting electrics consistently (,don't even main Mishima's)

Also, the arcade stick for VF seems like a requirement rather than optional like it is on Tekken

[Anonymous No.9677421]

>>9675945
zombie goth boy assassins (no homo).
i guess they really caught the zeitgheist when they presented that new archetype.
>>9677342
nigger VF3 has one too many buttons, i'd say its a worse cock up as a sequel than tekken 4.

[Anonymous No.9677434]

VF will never have a strong community. They're too busy reeeing over hot sparks in the new game .

[Anonymous No.9677449]

>>9677434
*hit sparks

[Anonymous No.9677521]

>>9677434
It will never have a strong community (outside of Japan) because Sega is run by alzheimers patients who couldn't market their way out of a wet paper bag

[Anonymous No.9678103]

>>9668503
How can people play old FGs? They feel so janky

[Anonymous No.9678137]

>>9678103
you adapt to it

[Anonymous No.9678141]

>>9678103
Which one are you trying anon?

[Anonymous No.9678150]

Bloody Roar: Primal Fury.

Yesterday I picked up pic related to change pace a bit and the dude is way better than what I recalled. Having good fun with him.

No I didn't play against someone's else on this game in years. Doesn't matter I can still progress by myself.

>>9674053
Who is this ?

[Anonymous No.9678452]

So who wants to play on fightcade? I'm doodoomonkey on there, hit me up if you ever see me hanging out in the kof 2002, samsho v special, or rival schools lobbies

[Anonymous No.9678938]

>>9668503
Cool artwork. Looks like Terada's stuff.

[Anonymous No.9679003]

>>9678150
Nagi

[Anonymous No.9679005]

>>9678938
It is. Terada did a whole comic for VF

[Anonymous No.9679040]

>>9677421
>i'd say its a worse cock up as a sequel than tekken 4.
Funny because T4 tried to copy VF3 uneven ground mechanic. And VF3 a bad game just had too high skill entry level with the dodge button not only being a dodge but also a move modifier if paired up with a attack. It was just too much to expect from the average fighting enthusiast.

[Anonymous No.9679313]

[Anonymous No.9679335]

>>9679313
They're not wrong about the average match being too short.

[Anonymous No.9679364]

>>9679040
Anyway, VF4 is a better game

[Anonymous No.9679490]

>>9676956
>Now I have a reason to buy a Japanese Dreamcast because I would love to play FV2.

The original Fighting Vipers did get more than one port, it was originally ported to the saturn. But there was a later Sega 2500 series PS2 release, that was closer to the arcade game, and Fighting Vipers ended up on XBLA and PSN too. But Fighting Vipers 2 was a Model 3 arcade game, originally and only ever saw a port to the Dreamcast. The port was only released in Pal and Japan territories. Same with Virtua Fighter 3. Was only ever ported to the Dreamcast with mixed results. Though, the Fighting Vipers 2 Dreamcast port is closer to the arcade game. The Dreamcast is stacked with fighting games, given how short it was out on the market. But sadly, the console didn't sell a lot of units, and some of the Model 3 fighting games never really got much exposure on home consoles outside of their Dreamcast releases. Virtua Fighter 3 wasn't as big of a hit as Tekken 3, because Tekken 3 just sold so many more copies on the PS1. Back in the day, Sega hyped the fuck out of VF3, for being the debut Model 3 arcade games. But ended up on the Dreamcast, and became one of the obscured entries in the series. VF2 has has been ported to the most platforms.

https://youtu.be/bVnJNwO7ZH0

[Anonymous No.9679741]

>>9679490
Ever heard of Toy Fighter? One of THE MOST slept on fighters ever.

It looks retarded. Generic Toy Story non trademarked toy characters that fight each other inside a hula hoop ring. But I swear to you it's fucking great.
Has the exact same fighting system as Fighters Destiny 1+2 on N64. Made by some of the same staff. They obviously moved onto create this. Was never ported to anything and I only came across it when I downloaded a Naomi romset out of curiosity.

Fucking good shit. Wacky zany shit. You can kick the ring if the opponent is being a pussy and backing away too much and it'll hit them and you an even jump up onto the ring and dive off it and shit for aerial attacks.

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[Anonymous No.9680635]

>>9677449
>hitsparks
the simply don't belong in VF and fortunately all the retro VF's don't have the gimmick.
>>9679364
yeah i agree 100%
the kwd autist can suck go suck lemons

[Anonymous No.9680843]

>>9678103
>>9678141
Dictator TOD
Crossup j.HK, s.LK, s.LK, cr.MK>MK Knee Press (Stun), Knee Press Nightmare Super, j.MP, j.MP.
https://youtu.be/Pfy7N0LiP-k

[Anonymous No.9680940]

>>9678141
JoJo HFTF
Third Strike
Alpha 3
Guilty Gear +R

[Anonymous No.9681278]

>>9676963
Delisted.

[Anonymous No.9681607]

>>9680013
I thought he was praying originally

[Anonymous No.9681706]

Comparing Saturn versions, Last Bronx is so much better than Fighting Vipers.
Fighting Vipers has gouraud shading but the character models are very low res and pixelated and polygon z-fighting is very apparent. Last Bronx looks much cleaner and polished. Fighting Vipers sound is very low quality and muffled compared to Last Bronx. Gameplay wise they both are fine, but Last Bronx gimmick (weapons) makes more sense than Fighting Vipers one (breakable armor). Additionally, Last Bronx has better character designs. Overall I think it's the second best 3D fighting arcade-to-Saturn port behind Dead or Alive.

[Anonymous No.9682268]

I thinnk I played last bronx in some mame emulator or fpa emulator 10 years ago.

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[Anonymous No.9684193]

>>9682856
>>9682851
>>9682850
>>9682847
>>9682845
Where's the N64 version

[Anonymous No.9684249]

>>9684193
Here you go champ.
(yes, these are your only options for fighting games on the N64)

[Anonymous No.9684943]

[Anonymous No.9684949]

>>9684193
the n64 sucks why do you want them?

[Anonymous No.9686062]

>>9673935
totally agree

[Anonymous No.9686872]

>>9682856
Ultimate Ninja 3 was great. Fuck 4.

[Anonymous No.9687071]

>>9678150
the game still has a pretty active community

[Anonymous No.9687147]

>>9680843
>>9684249
Nice one. champ.

https://twitter.com/MacroCastleGuy/status/1628258990286163969#m

[Anonymous No.9687439]

>>9687071
I wouldn't know. I only found one guy who played the original Bloody Roar.

For Primal Fury the only source I had was some guy on emulator. But like I said I play once in a while alone and still got a lot training to do so it's fine.

[Anonymous No.9688232]

>>9678150
I only played the first one back in the 90s and bloody roar 2 demo a lot, with that wolf and rabbit characters

[Anonymous No.9688626]

>>9682856
It's missing a lot of games, like Yū Yū Hakusho Forever, The Battle of Yū Yū Hakusho: Shitou! Ankoku Bujutsu Kai 120% Full Power, Simple 2000 Vol. 91: The All*Star Fighting Festival and Def Jam Fight for NY (and this one is not a wrestling game like the first Def Jam, but something new).

[Anonymous No.9689745]

>>9668503
Anyone interested in Tekken8?

[Anonymous No.9690301]

>>9688626
>Yū Yū Hakusho Forever, The Battle of Yū Yū Hakusho: Shitou! Ankoku Bujutsu Kai 120% Full Power, Simple 2000 Vol. 91: The All*Star Fighting Festival
don't know abouth those
Are those also 3D fighters?

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[Anonymous No.9690921]

>>9689745
Not 100% sure. It looks ok, but it feels so... 1D. I'll just stick to the older games.

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