Glad this finally gets remastered and more people can experience it

[Anonymous No.9645161]

Always saw it as one of the best JRPGs. They really just need to "fix" the echoing, let us speed up the combat and maybe even add a hard mode and it would be a 10/10 and probably worth every cent

[Anonymous No.9645168]

I always adored for its actually fantastical art that's a mix of Baroque and weird fairy tale, the first game staying completely clear of typical edgy anime designs or sexy shonen boys and waifus, the Honne (Chrono Cross) backgrounds, the amazing melancholic Sakuraba soundtrack, all the interactivity and optional stuff in the world, the creative level design and, most importantly, the fun card combat putting an actually interseting spin on otherwise boring turn-based combat. Similar to Chrono Cross, you can even avoid enemies on the map and there are no random encounters

[Anonymous No.9645169]

>>9645161
Card battling sounds so boring in an rpg, I really don't care how it's done, it can't be escaped that it's such a boring premise for a gameplay system.

[Anonymous No.9645170]

>>9645161
Always liked this more than Origins

[Anonymous No.9645178]

>>9645169
>Card battling sounds so boring in an rpg
It gives you way more to do and rewards quick thinking more than most turn-based combat systems. This goes doubly for the prequel and the FromSoftware games on GameCube

[Anonymous No.9645193]

>>9645168

[Anonymous No.9645198]

>>9645161
They improved the 3D stuff A LOT but not sure if I like the pre-rendered backgrounds. Hope they don't use any ugly filters
>>9645169
>durr sounds boring zoom zoom
Stop trying to make the first shitpost in every Nintendo thread

[Anonymous No.9645202]

>>9645193

[Anonymous No.9645204]

could it get a pc port?

[Anonymous No.9645206]

>>9645202

[Anonymous No.9645213]

>>9645193
Albino girl was hot tho

[Anonymous No.9645215]

>>9645198
>Hope they don't use any ugly filters
Seems to look fine

[Anonymous No.9645224]

>>9645206

[Anonymous No.9645235]

>>9645204
Nintendo don't own it do they?

[Anonymous No.9645236]

>>9645178
Look I don't care. I don't want to play a yugioh card called sword of almighty darkness. I want to swing the sword of almighty darkness.

[Anonymous No.9645247]

>that random difficulty spike
>30 hours of progress lost if you are underleveled
This was so based___

[Anonymous No.9645254]

>>9645236
Selecting unique sword cards with cool art that immediately translate into combos feels a lot more like swinging a sword than selecting "Attack Element 3" in a menu

[Anonymous No.9645264]

>>9645215
This looks awesome. I always wondered why games stopped using prerendered backgrounds and even static angles. Old Tales ofs look so much better than the new ones too

[Anonymous No.9645276]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TIqt7qOBrk
Still the best Sakuraba OST

[Anonymous No.9645286]

>>9645161
>remaster
wait what

[Anonymous No.9645473]

>>9645224

[Anonymous No.9645492]

>>9645161
no im okay. chrono cross, front mission, and FF remasters have turned me off from them for the rest of my life. i think i'm fine with playing the original games. i shouldn't have fallen for getting roped into buying the same thing twice that's what pisses me off the most and blazing through the game like i was binging through a television show.

[Anonymous No.9645505]

>>9645492
There isn't that much they can fuck up with the BK remaster, though. All the HD backgrounds already exist since the GC game and weren't shredded and burned like with Chrono Cross for some reason

[Anonymous No.9645545]

>>9645505
dont let me ruin the excitement or anticipation. i'm going to pass. there is a list of excuses as to why this shit continues to come back and i think im comfortable accepting that the first attempt was the vision and everything afterwards is business. if you missed out on playing it or you couldn't find a copy - cool. the point im trying to make is that i was once excited to play a game again for QOL improvements and most often it is a disappointment instead. the improvements unbalance the game or the graphics are unusual, menus are replaced, or theres now animated shit on the menus that just weren't really necessary but i guess they needed to do something.

[Anonymous No.9645581]

>>9645161
Setting the game sound to mono fixed it for me at least.

[Anonymous No.9645595]

that stone tower filtered me back then

[Anonymous No.9645653]

I remember the villain in the first game being an actual pedophilic dragqueen but the game not outright saying it. There aren't many genuinely repulsive villains so that was cool

[Anonymous No.9645845]

>>9645161
>They really just need to "fix" the echoing, let us speed up the combat and maybe even add a hard mode and it would be a 10/10 and probably worth every cent
How likely are each of these things for the remaster?

[Anonymous No.9646104]

>>9645224
Do they even ever make out in the game

[Anonymous No.9647140]

>>9645473
Cute

[Anonymous No.9647647]

>>9645254
>when you get all your best cards in a row with the right numbers

[Anonymous No.9647681]

I know thos is a bamco property but doesn't Nintendo own a percentage of the IP?

[Anonymous No.9647735]

>>9645236
Why are you commenting on something you never played? Fucking retard. The only card game this slighty derived from is poker. But fucking zoomer are too stupid knowadays to even know how to play that.

[Anonymous No.9647761]

>>9647647
Pulling off a 6 straight and getting over 80% damage bonus is soo fucking rewarding. Every turn you take feels significant in encounters. Lowkey one of the best rpgs.

[Anonymous No.9647774]

>>9645247
Are you talking about the fight with giacomo and his underlings?

[Anonymous No.9647858]

>>9647647
>>9647761
I never understood the number and element things or what to prioritize and when

[Anonymous No.9648056]

>>9645276
Damn

[Anonymous No.9648958]

>>9645215
Why aren't they eating their own village?

[Anonymous No.9649037]

>>9645168
>Similar to Chrono Cross
Well, you sold me on the game.

[Anonymous No.9650328]

>>9645595
I still don't understand why Monolith knew how to design amazing puzzly/gimmicky levels in Baten Kaitos but then never ever did it again afterwards. A Xenoblade would have benefited greatly from a dungeon or two with puzzles

Guess it was that other company responsible for them

[Anonymous No.9650393]

>>9645161
>"fix" the echoing
qrd?

[Anonymous No.9650551]

>>9647858
Just make pairs with the numbers or order them in numerical order to get major bonus damage. Elemental works like any other rpg but doesnt matter too much in the long run.

[Anonymous No.9650558]

>>9649037
Honestly I like the combat system in Baten Kaitos far more than CC. You spend way less time watching fucking battle animations, both because they're way shorter but you'll be more engaged with whats in your hand versus whats on the battle field. Ill say before you start, combat doesnt get really saucy til you class up once or two(which wont take long)

[Anonymous No.9650681]

>>9645247
>>9647774
Dunno if it was the first fight, but at some point you can't backtrack and you have a bunch of fights. Almost locked myself out too

[Anonymous No.9650685]

Anyone saw the models in the trailer? They didn't show them much but there was something... off

[Anonymous No.9650724]

>>9649037
Better late than never, anon. It didn't age one bit besides the sound quality of the voices (though some say it gets better with time, so it might be on purpose because you are basically really a ghost who follows the characters and bonds with them over time)

>>9650393
Sounds a bit like they're talking through a tin can, similar to FFXII

[Anonymous No.9650819]

>>9645235
Bamco own the IP, but Nintendo own Monolithsoft and co-funded BKO, so it's Switch only.

[Anonymous No.9650826]

>>9645845
The remaster voice track is JP only, from what I remember.

[Anonymous No.9650840]

Best descriptions I've heard about the Baten Kaitos combat systems are that BK1 is basically poker and BK2/BKO is like MvC2.

[Anonymous No.9651139]

If you emulate it, reminder not to bother with the undub if you dislike the echoing. It's full of errors and the Jap dub has it too anyway

Also...as always...do not use fan textures

[Anonymous No.9651143]

>>9651139

[Anonymous No.9651147]

>>9651139
This looks pretty bad for a 6th gen game

>>9651143
This looks worse

[Anonymous No.9651158]

>>9651147
>This looks pretty bad for a 6th gen game
Around standard, which is OK for a random battle arena and a game that's mostly pre-rendered. It even has proper shadows instead of blob shadows like in FF

[Anonymous No.9651161]

>>9651158
FF10's battles make far better use of color and scenery, to focus just on just shadows when you're overlooking a game so brown it'd make Quake 2 blush. Besides, X-2 addresses this and is from the same year as Kaitos.

I submit the fan work looks worse (not a big surprise) but the game is far from a looker.

[Anonymous No.9651169]

>>9651161
If someone who thinks what you posted looks good says your game isn't a looker, it should just be taken as a compliment

[Anonymous No.9651171]

>>9651169

[Anonymous No.9651174]

>>9651169
>>9651171
just not very impressed with 2d backgrounds since the ps1 days

[Anonymous No.9651175]

>>9651171

[Anonymous No.9651180]

>>9651175

[Anonymous No.9651186]

>>9651180

[Anonymous No.9651189]

>>9651186

[Anonymous No.9651271]

>>9651174
>just not very impressed with 2d backgrounds since the ps1 days
Sounds like a /v/ problem

[Anonymous No.9651281]

>>9651169
>>9651171
>>9651175
>>9651180
>>9651186
>>9651189
That's BK? I never played it.
Are those high quality pre-renders? That's actually super sick.

[Anonymous No.9651306]

>>9651281
They look good. Afaik the game is sort of large for what it is, also needed 2 discs. There's some cool 3D things going on as well, like leaving trails in the sand and the sand storm slowly covering them up again

[Anonymous No.9651312]

>>9651306
I feel kind of stupid for not playing this now. I was a GCfag and everything.

[Anonymous No.9651325]

>>9650840
Man, the prequel's combat bugged me. It's faster and actiony whichi s nice but it doesn't even seem to have the same combo system or unique cards? The satisfying thing about BK1 is drawing all your cool unique cards. Also not that commentator was weird. And then the game is mostly a rehash of the original

I know it does a few technical things better and the characters are more lively, but I probably wouldn't even recommend fans to play the prequel

[Anonymous No.9651331]

>>9651325
My only gripe was how it portrayed Geldoblame as that charismatic silver tongued devil when in the original he is fundamentally evil and repugnant, which may seem more generic but was actually the opposite

[Anonymous No.9652113]

>>9651139
The bathtub effect comes from the dogshit effect processing the game program does when the audio setting isn't anything other than Dolby. If you emulate it you'll have to set Dolphin to LLE Audio emulation and enable Dolby processing to make the Dolby game setting work or else the game will sound the same. This will work on both USA and undub USA versions. Though it sucks that you'll always hear the voices in the intro sequence sound fucked up since you need to get control of your character to access the settings.
I wish there was some cheat code to skip that effects processing entirely so you could emulate it with HLE audio too and not get fucked intro voices.

[Anonymous No.9652165]

>>9652113
If I can read moonrunes is the full JPN version free from this problem?

[Anonymous No.9652201]

>>9652165
Sorry, you'll have to try for yourself. I haven't tested the JP iso and my drive is currently full.

[Anonymous No.9652364]

>>9645168
Played it ages ago but I really, really like this. You are right. This is wonderful. I had to grow much older to appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.9652517]

>>9652165
No, though you really get used to it and it's weirdly fitting

[Anonymous No.9652705]

>>9645161
I had a dream last night about this game kicking my ass. Like, the combat speed was on par with FFX-2, but with cards. Bet the game's not even hard either and just had a mini night terror.

[Anonymous No.9652768]

>>9651143
kek

[Anonymous No.9652783]

>>9652705
So you had a dream about Origins

[Anonymous No.9652812]

>>9651306
>and the sand storm slowly covering them up again
Happens with snow too, see the last few seconds

[Anonymous No.9652845]

[Anonymous No.9652947]

>>9652845
Damn

[Anonymous No.9652952]

I just hope they speed up the combat animations, then it's flawless ludo

[Anonymous No.9653234]

[Anonymous No.9653547]

>>9650685
Yeah, the faces look a bit more anime and Kalas's cape looks weird now. Overall I still can't see anything offensive, many nicer textures, shadows, effects, models

[Anonymous No.9653870]

Who are the best characters for high DPS?

[Anonymous No.9654086]

>>9652952
>then it's flawless ludo
Nope, it would also need the wing dash from Origins. Having wings and not being able to do anything with them was my only big gripe.

[Anonymous No.9654673]

>>9653870
Seen speedtrunners use the red haired guy, the protag and the blonde but not clue

[Anonymous No.9654717]

>MC wears crocs
Literally worse than a pizza cutter sword

[Anonymous No.9655132]

>>9645286
Both games, jp voices only, probably digital only.

[Anonymous No.9656394]

>>9654717
True should be big edgy metallic biker boots and long tranny hair to the shoulders

[Anonymous No.9656491]

>>9656394
And wings

[Anonymous No.9656528]

>>9647735
If he is gonna bitch about the cards and not mention that they change over time then it's just a bs post. I enjoyed the game till I came back after a month and saw how much it may have took to get back in fighting shape. Legit one of the last times I ever shopped at a toys r us.

[Anonymous No.9656817]

>>9654717
Comfy

[Anonymous No.9657517]

>>9652845
This looks 3D. Should have ported it to the 3DS and add more crazy shit

[Anonymous No.9657757]

You think Bamco's just gonna' opt for the Jap dub and not bother relicensing/rerecording the Eng dub? The Klonoa remaster dumped both dubs and just had the Phantomile language, so that leads me to believe Bamco might cut corners when it comes to the VA.

[Anonymous No.9659208]

>>9657757
>You think Bamco's just gonna' opt for the Jap dub and not bother
I like the eng voices but don't really care that much. Never tried the Jap voices so this will make it feel even fresher

[Anonymous No.9659913]

>>9657757
pedome

[Anonymous No.9660459]

Does this have multiplayer like Tales?