/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9615040]

Best 3D fighting games besides Tekken, SC and DOA?

[Anonymous No.9615043]

>>9615040
Virtua Fighter, obviously.

[Anonymous No.9615048]

>>9615040
>no vf
I'm gonna slap you anon


well fighting vipers is pretty cool

[Anonymous No.9615050]

>>9615040
Bloody Roar 1 & 2.

[Anonymous No.9615054]

>>9615040
Tobal 2

[Anonymous No.9615067]

>>9615043
>>9615048
No one cares about that shit. The gameplay isn't fun and the roster some of the most generic ever
>>9615050
Primal Fury is the best BR, which is also still played competitively on Dolphin

[Anonymous No.9615069]

>>9615048
>I'm gonna slap you anon
Fucking weird how people always forget about this series, right?

>>9615050
>Bloody Roar 2
Based.

Besides that, Last Bronx was great from what I remember. And I hope no one will mention Battle Arena Toshinden, because try revisitting it nowadays - just doesn't hold up.

[Anonymous No.9615072]

>>9615067
The irony of this post. My fucking sides.

[Anonymous No.9615078]

>>9615067
Dolphin? Isn't that a GC emulator? BRII is a PS1 game

[Anonymous No.9615079]

>>9615067
The gameplay is fun, you probably just suck at it. Ain't nothing wrong with that. And if I'd want crazy designs, I'd probably play Guilty Gear or something, not really 3D, but you get my drift. Virtua Fighter is all about martial artists beating the shit out of each other.

[Anonymous No.9615087]

>>9615079
The jumps are too high and floaty and there's not enough combo depth.

[Anonymous No.9615091]

>>9615087
>The jumps are too high
Well ok, I'll give you that, they are.

[Anonymous No.9615102]

>>9615087
>>9615091
>they only played vf1 and vf2 and yet state their opinions
Retards.

[Anonymous No.9615106]

>>9615102
You're on /vr/ dum-dum.

[Anonymous No.9615112]

>>9615106
Well nobody should discuss 3D fighters until he plays VF4 first.

[Anonymous No.9615114]

>>9615078
That's why I said Primal Fury. I have no idea why you would say 2 when it's worse and not played by anyone

[Anonymous No.9615119]

>>9615112
I've played it and I like it, but again, since this is /vr/ and most of us aren't zoomers, he's most likely talking about the first two games. In which case I'll have to agree, yes the jumps were really fucking ridiculous. Chill.

[Anonymous No.9615149]

smash on the n64

[Anonymous No.9615154]

>>9615149
Not a fighting game.

[Anonymous No.9615157]

>>9615067
filtered by virtua fighter again?

[Anonymous No.9615160]

>>9615149
and then theres this guy

[Anonymous No.9615163]

>>9615119
People barely played VF1 and VF2 though. Locked to expensive cutting-edge arcade machines and niche consoles. VF4 was the most mainstream one with its two PS2 ports.

[Anonymous No.9615214]

>>9615040
I have a soft spot for SFEX series
mainly because of the "otedama" setting

[Anonymous No.9615226]

>>9615163
Virtua Fighter 2 was one of the few 3D fighting games you could play on PC actually anon.

[Anonymous No.9615237]

>>9615226
Thanks, I always forget about those.

[Anonymous No.9615238]

>>9615214
WDYM?

[Anonymous No.9615454]

TOBAL no1
TOBAL no2

[Anonymous No.9615456]

>>9615238
Not him, but Street Fighter EX series. Quick Google search tells me that "otedama" in this particular instance refers to the juggle game, you launch someone into the air and then beat the shit out of them before they even have the chance to reach the ground.

[Anonymous No.9615459]

>>9615456
You've described Tekken and Mortal Kombat

[Anonymous No.9615468]

Virtua Fighter, particularly starting with 3tb.

[Anonymous No.9615492]

Fighters Destiny 1&2 for N64 is a lot of fun.

[Anonymous No.9615654]

>>9615040
Virtua fighter
Soul blade
dynasty warriors
bloody rorar
fighting vipers
last bronx
rival schools

AND THE LIST DOESN'T GOES ON

[Anonymous No.9615681]

Mogs Tekken 3

[Anonymous No.9615710]

>>9615040
>Best 3D fighting games

Nothing ever comes close

[Anonymous No.9615823]

>>9615654
that's pretty weird that Dynasty Warriors started off as a fighting game. why did it completely change genres later?

[Anonymous No.9615890]

>>9615823
Don't know but it was like 1997 and then in 2000/2001 dynasty warriors change. For better, isn't?

[Anonymous No.9615917]

>>9615040
Bushido blade

[Anonymous No.9615925]

Can any kusoficionados recommend me a based western 3D fighter?

[Anonymous No.9615929]

>>9615925
Thrill Kill

[Anonymous No.9616365]

>>9615681
>no Smash with an artstyle that matches the cover
also I love the redrawn cartridges in the back

[Anonymous No.9616376]

>>9615456
SFEX aren't really '3D' fighters besides the aesthetic, there are very few things in the games that mess with the z axis
They're good but they're traditonal street fighter compared to vf, tekken, etc

[Anonymous No.9616382]

>>9615040
>>9615067
>>9615050
Bloody roar 3 a best

[Anonymous No.9616414]

>>9615681
>Mogs Tekken 3
smash is the mario kart of the fighting games, its piss easy and boring

[Anonymous No.9616649]

>>9616414
that's not how analogies work, retard

[Anonymous No.9616742]

>>9615226
>Virtua Fighter 2 was one of the few 3D fighting games you could play on PC actually anon.

Back in the mid 90's Sega worked with a PC publisher called Expert software, and ported many of their Sega Saturn games to Windows 95. There is Virtua Fighter PC, which was a port of the Sega Saturn Virtua Fighter Remix. There is a port of Virtua Fighter 2, which was a direct port of the Saturn game, with some enhancements. There's also a port of Last Bronx for Win95 too, and that was also a port of the Saturn game. The PC ports do contain some extras like hardware acceleration via D3D, and some games contain the arcade meshes and such. Virtua Fighter 2 was ported to the PS2 in Japan, and has a 360 and PSN port. Virtua Fighter 3 is a much more obscure game, because it was only ported to the Dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.9616790]

>>9616742
Didn't know about Virtua Fighter Remix port, but I did own (pirate copies, but still, kek) Virtua Fighter 2 and Last Bronx and would play the fuck out of them. Same with both of the Virtua Cop games. Quality stuff. Sega has shown the PC some proper, tender love. I even liked that Sonic 3 & Knuckles port, although I know plenty of people hate it because of the MIDI music.

PS. And I know about the PS2 ports of Virtua Fighter and Last Bronx, part of the Sega Ages series, have them on my PS2's HDD. They're great. Also Nights into Dreams, since I never owned a Saturn and wanted to experience the game - still haven't gotten around to it though, it's in the backlog for now.

[Anonymous No.9616853]

>>9616790
>Didn't know about Virtua Fighter Remix port

It's a port of Virtua Fighter Remix for the PC, but does have the options to play with flat shadded models as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dP3SuTOtGw&t=163s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-Y72F2O6Xk&t=140s

[Anonymous No.9616867]

[Anonymous No.9617012]

>>9615214
Not 3D.

[Anonymous No.9617383]

>>9616382
Stop talking about games you don't play

[Anonymous No.9617410]

Sonic the Fighters was a pretty damn fun game. Anons should try it out.

[Anonymous No.9617441]

>>9615710

DreamMix TV is a bit of a hidden gem, as far as Smash clones go. It has one character from Bloody Roar, Solid Snake, Simon Belmont, Optimus Prime, Megatron, Bomberman, Master Higgins.

>>9615048
>well fighting vipers is pretty cool

I always liked the Sega Saturn port. never really put much time into Fighting Vipers 2, though. Fighters MegaMix was a Saturn exclusive that played like a spin off of Fighting Vipers. The VF2 cast has a partial VF3 moveset (making it like VF2.5), the game has cut VF1 characters like Shiba, has Bean and Bark as hidden characters. Plays like Fighting Vipers.

[Anonymous No.9617454]

>>9615040
I guess it's technically a wrestling game but Rumble Roses is great

[Anonymous No.9618226]

>>9615040
Power Stone 1 and 2

[Anonymous No.9618234]

Tekken 3 was really underwhelming, tried it last week after some anon shilled it hard.
Virtual Fighter 2, dead or alive and soul calibur are all much, much better.

[Anonymous No.9618237]

>>9618226
This is actually less of a fighting game than Smash. Fundamentally, Smash is still a 2D fighting game with emphasis on platforming. Power Stone has that isometric view that feels more like a proper "party game" and doesn't have too many things in common with other more traditional fighters.

[Anonymous No.9618256]

>>9618234
It's a shame that Sega didn't release Saturn Dead or Alive in the west as the answer to Tekken 3.

[Anonymous No.9618261]

>>9615040
Virtua Fighter, of course. I still haven’t played 3 or Kids, but every other one of those games that I’ve tried is great and kinda left me feeling like a moron for writing the series off for so long. We literally wouldn’t have Tekken if it weren’t for one of the brains behind Virtua Fighter. Fighting Vipers, Last Bronx and Fighter’s Megamix are all pretty fun too.
Oh, you should try Soul Edge too if you haven’t already. It’s basically just Soulcalibur without 8-way run.

[Anonymous No.9618264]

>>9618234
Different strokes I guess. If you played the PS1 version and are curious enough to try the game again sometime, I’d suggest trying the arcade port of it that was packed in with Tekken 5.

[Anonymous No.9618287]

>>9618264
Ps1 port is superior though, even with reduced resolution and simplified backgrounds. Fixed balance, proper Anna Williams and arranged soundtrack make up for those.

[Anonymous No.9618541]

I love Street Fighter EX games like you wouldn't believe.
>inb4 "not a 3d fighter"
Shitty meme. The game world has three dimensions, so are the characters' hurtboxes. Akuma and Evil Ryu literally have sidestep moves.

[Anonymous No.9618563]

>>9618237
>smash cope

[Anonymous No.9618585]

>>9617441
>I always liked the Sega Saturn port.
me to, but the slow downs annoy me, good thing they only happen after the moves(to be fair I used to played vf2 which runs at a perfect 60fps so that might just be nitpicking, fv is still enjoyable)

[Anonymous No.9618643]

No love for Toshinden?

[Anonymous No.9618651]

>>9618541
Just picked up mint copy of ex3 for 12 dollars. What am I in for? I ran through arcade once and unlocked Sagat. Thinking of practicing w Ken because he’s my main. I don’t know anything about the meta.

[Anonymous No.9618813]

>>9616414
Smash is the most complex fighter

[Anonymous No.9618830]

>>9618813
It's not a fighter so whether it is complex or not does not concern anyone itt

[Anonymous No.9618831]

>>9618813
this is the most retarded shit I've heard on /vr/ holy shit

[Anonymous No.9618915]

>>9615040
Ehrgeiz

[Anonymous No.9618924]

Fist
Battle Arena Toshinden Remix

[Anonymous No.9618942]

>>9615925
>Tao Feng: Fist of the Lotus (xbox)
Designed by John Tobias after he split with the MK team, it felt dated and cliché in 2003 and somehow makes the PS2 3D mortal kombat games feel polished.
>Star Wars: Masters of Teräs Käsi (ps1)
Clunky, has completely inconsistent mechanics and often bizarre buttons, with some characters having guns and weapons that only just about function. This piece of shit disregards all of the rules and trends of the genre and it shows, but has a based and massive roster if you're a fan of the IP.
>Deadliest Warrior the Game (xbox live arcade, not /vr/ but also not new)
A rare fighter with absolute no recognisable influence from any other well known 3D fighting game. The animations are mostly dogshit, sound is an afterthought, and the UI designers have probably never player anything resembling a fighting game, but it actually plays pretty well if you can free your brain from the shackles of 'real' fighting games.
>Kakuto Chojin (xbox)
Doesn't quite count was developed by a Japanese subsidiary but published by Microsoft for the og xbox but its definitely worth mentioning because its fucking sick, and it feels western. It also came out in North America first by a long time if I remember correctly.

[Anonymous No.9618958]

>>9615040
Definitely not what’s on ur screen

[Anonymous No.9618962]

>>9617410
I did on PS3 and it was dogshit

[Anonymous No.9619197]

>>9618643
I'd argue that the GameBoy port is one the best fighting games for the system and the best Takara game out of the bunch, but the 3D original games are all meh. I've played a lot of Battle Arena Toshinden 2 on PC back in the day, but with competitors like FX Fighter it was real easy for it to take the crown. I wouldn't enjoy it nowadays, it's just mediocre. IMHO that is, your mileage may vary.

[Anonymous No.9619224]

>>9615040
Last Bronx is a amazing game that seems to be completly forgotten these days. Helped me to cope with the fact Tekken was out of my reach. Shame sega didn't continue it.

[Anonymous No.9619239]

>>9619197
Agreed 100%. Toshinden GB is lots of fun, Tonshinden proper is middling shit

[Anonymous No.9620658]

>>9615040
I never could get into Soul games. Always seemed like style over substance, compared to games based on actual martial arts.

[Anonymous No.9620693]

>>9620658
They offer a lot of replayability though, going all the way back to Soul Edge (Soul Blade) and starting with the Edge Master Mode. Hours of fun finishing various missions (ranging from piss easy to really challenging), collecting new weapons, reading the in-game lore etc. Them games are huugeeeee. I've always liked weapons in fighting games, so it's probably my fav series next to SamSho and Last Blade. Just a shame you couldn't destroy the enemy weapons in SoulCalibur and up, it did add an extra layer of strategy - you'd rely on blocking too much, your weapon would eventually break and you'd be at someone's mercy unless you got really lucky with using the martial arts (you could actually punch, kick and throw without the weapon) alone.

[Anonymous No.9622145]

>>9619197
>I'd argue that the GameBoy port is one the best fighting games for the system and the best Takara game out of the bunch, but the 3D original games are all meh.

the GameBoy game also has Super GameBoy support, which added some custom boarders and a splash of colour. It also adds two player mode via a second SNES gamepad.

https://youtu.be/URtTVwNqw6s

I always liked Battle Arena as a franchise. I liked the dopey over the top OVA's and the characters. The original Battle Arena was a spectacle for the PS1 when it was released. It was one of the earliest 3D fighters for the console. It was going up against Virtua Fighter 1 on the Sega Saturn, and made the Sega Saturn look like an inferior machine. Played better? Eh, not really. I remember having fun with the PS1 games, despite the jank. BAT was the original 3D arena weapon based fighter. Soul Edge/ Soul Cali bur was Namco's response to this franchise. Sega's Last Bronx was basically Sega making their own Toshienden.

[Anonymous No.9622198]

There's also Battle Arena Nitoshinden, which was basically an SD version of Toshinden. It was aimed at a younger audience, has Sonic the Fighters style stretch and squash 3D polygons. This one did come out after Sonic the Fighters. I remember reading about in in GameFan Magazine, back in the day. Never really played it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvmcvUgGYKA

There was also a Virtua Fighter Kids:
https://youtu.be/aLxw1SyknSU?t=169

Which is basically an alt-version of Virtua Fighter 2 with these SD/ big headed characters. the character physics are a little different, so the game does have some variation on VF2.

[Anonymous No.9622230]

>>9622198
As a VF2 fan I want to like VF Kids but I can't get over the fact that Sega has cranked the super deformed aspect up to 11. The heads are so big that they make the action look too awkward. Capcom and SNK have nailed their SD characters perfectly in comparison. Super Pocket Fighter or SNK's handheld fighting games look perfect.