/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9604004]

So who here is trying to get their shit rocked when the online drops

[Anonymous No.9604018]

real ones play GoldenEye: Source

[Anonymous No.9604026]

Will it run at a better fps than the original version though? If I remember, Goldeneye actually doesn't have a locked framerate, so it'd be easy to crank it up, like you can do on emulators.

[Anonymous No.9604027]

my bo-my body is ready

[Anonymous No.9604028]

>>9604018
Are there still players? I actually quite enjoyed that ages ago

[Anonymous No.9604043]

>>9604004
why aren't we arranging to play right now. there's no benefit in paying to play on Switch

[Anonymous No.9604052]

What version are you referring to?

[Anonymous No.9604056]

>>9604052
https://youtu.be/hjs_-QA2DyM

[Anonymous No.9604102]

>>9604026
Already been confirmed that both versions are gonna have a much higher framerate. I'm actually looking forward to the Xbox version, I have Rare Replay so I get it for free, but I am at least going to give it a go on Switch as well since the graphics and features are apparently different.

[Anonymous No.9604106]

>>9604102
Oh right it's on xbox too. I wonder if those developer videos will finally be released from Rare

[Anonymous No.9604153]

>>9604056
unironically n64 looks better

[Anonymous No.9604161]

>>9604153
unfortunately to get the graphics 100% accurate in emulation makes it a lot less clear looking and it takes a lot more processing power

[Anonymous No.9604164]

>>9604153
It does have a certain Junoesque. That filtering's going to look real bad on someone's 8K TV though.

[Anonymous No.9604169]

>>9604027
>this was 15 years ago

[Anonymous No.9604202]

I don't understand why anyone would want this. You can emulate this on your phone for free, why would you buy this?

[Anonymous No.9604205]

>>9604202
Looks like it has better frame rate and online

[Anonymous No.9604208]

>>9604202
there's a wave of players that will be active for 3 months and then you'll find your dedicated buddies through there. I've personally played more n64 online on switch in a few months than i have local my entire life, and and the multiplayer was the go-to function since i had brothers, with smash and mk64 simply being constants anywhere from friends to college dorms

i tried doing netplay once on retroarch and just getting it synced is a pain in the dick, it doesn't even work

[Anonymous No.9604254]

>>9604102
I'm assuming the Switch version with be the N64 game while the Xbox version will be like their port of Perfect Dark —but I guess we'll find out...

[Anonymous No.9604325]

goldeneye multiplayer was always bad.

[Anonymous No.9604332]

I was psyched at first but then I realized what I was excited for, was something I modded in myself.
Goldeneye with mouse controls is amazing.
Goldeneye with joycon motion controls, would also be amazing.
But that's not what we're getting. We're getting Vanilla Goldeneye, which was a muddled mess for aiming.
I'll try to have fun, but I know what I'll be missing. So I'm not very psyched.

[Anonymous No.9604360]

>>9604332
The Xbox version will almost certainly have dual analog controls

[Anonymous No.9604376]

>>9604360
Well that version isn't gonna have online multiplayer, so I can't give a shit.

I need online multiplayer + motion control.

[Anonymous No.9604379]

>>9604102
is it still going to be free if you have the rare replay digital copy only?
i have the physical rr and that would be horseshit

[Anonymous No.9604381]

I have no nostalgia towards this game. Is it actually as good as people make it out to be?

[Anonymous No.9604383]

>>9604381
you cant move and aim at the same time, so its going to be hard to get into at this point for a lot of people. that being said i think the single player is great. multiplayer was never good, but people remember it fondly because there was nothing better on the n64.

[Anonymous No.9604384]

>>9604332
don't worry friend, once we get the pc port we'll have all that and hd textures if i ever get off my ass and finish

[Anonymous No.9604389]

>>9604376
Go play the Wii version then

[Anonymous No.9604392]

>>9604325
This. Let me know when we get Perfect Dark on NSO.

[Anonymous No.9604398]

>>9604384

[Anonymous No.9604415]

>>9604398
It's all hand drawn from scratch friend

[Anonymous No.9604417]

>>9604389
だが断る。

[Anonymous No.9604418]

>>9604417
:^)

[Anonymous No.9604440]

>>9604004
Post your favorite tracks, anons. For me, its Runway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9FUN60a4aw

[Anonymous No.9604450]

>>9604384
Keep up the good work

[Anonymous No.9604517]

>>9604415
yikes

[Anonymous No.9604551]

>>9604381
No, it was just the first console fps that wasnt impossible to control, and 4 player splitscreen is usually fun with every game. Perfect Dark shat on it hard then later Halo set the standard for console fps controls.

[Anonymous No.9604558]

>>9604332
I know everyone here likes to bitch about Retroarch all the time but you can set up modern twin-stick controls for both Goldeneye and PD based off the 1.2 control setup in like three minutes

[Anonymous No.9604605]

>>9604202
>playing videogames on a phone

[Anonymous No.9604631]

>>9604384
Could I go to the island ? Will there be some hidden bonus there ?

[Anonymous No.9604713]

>>9604631
I have an idea for a Master Quest style campaign with new objectives that would include the island, but I'm strictly an artist (and "idea guy" i guess) and would need a lot of help to make it a reality

[Anonymous No.9604729]

>>9604605
>He didn't have a Nokia phone back then
You missed out

[Anonymous No.9604805]

>>9604729
I didn't, because I had a Game Boy Pocket and later Game Boy Advance SP, which could play real videogames.

[Anonymous No.9604816]

>>9604381
I will say it has a lot of "pizazz". It's one of those games where shooting enemies feels very satisfying. Everything has a good crunchy impact about it. A lot of the music, and sound design is very good. The presentation is all obviously very appealing if you're a James Bond fan. I like the gimmick of higher difficulties adding more mission objectives, and I wish that became more of a thing in video games.

Depends what you're looking for in a game, really. It's probably not the most high tier competitive shooter. It doesn't have the smoothest controls. They work, but they're of their time.

Do I like it a lot? Yes. Are a new generation about to be introduced to it, only to piss and moan because it's not Overwatch? Also yes.

[Anonymous No.9604829]

>make the first official N64 controller in 20 years
>Make literally about 100 of them so they're impossible to buy and only scalpers have them for sale for 250% markup

I fucking hate Jewtendo fucking nigger faggots

[Anonymous No.9604850]

>>9604713
I can't program N64, not even a clue how to. But let us update anon.

[Anonymous No.9604937]

>>9604018
I loved source in the early-mid 2010s, but lately it’s just stupid mods on stupid levels. You rarely every play actual Goldeneye, and all of the servers are dead except one that just plays dumb “gun game” on TF2 and counter strike maps

[Anonymous No.9605050]

I use my switch mostly for playing N64 games so I'm happy that Goldeneye is getting added.
That being said, wish you could play with randos online instead of having to add people, I haven't found anyone with the expansion pack.

[Anonymous No.9605074]

>>9604398
You have some nostalgia goggles on your eyes, the original game has a pretty mediocre art design and works only because of extremely low resolution

[Anonymous No.9605207]

The cancelled Xbox Live Arcade remaster is still the best version

[Anonymous No.9605654]

>>9604332
You're playing it with a modern mindset, you're supposed to fight the controls and think on your feet, be creative

[Anonymous No.9605671]

>>9604018
anything new since that guy did some inside charcoal grilling?

[Anonymous No.9605673]

>>9604325
yes, it was just the only multiplayer FPS console kids had

[Anonymous No.9605714]

>>9604332
Goldeneye, like Metroid Prime, is fucking boring with mouse look. The enemies are all balanced for you to have to choose between moving and aiming.

[Anonymous No.9605723]

>>9605714
>The enemies are all balanced for you to have to
No no.
They aren't.
00 Agent missions are still hard with mouse controls. And practically fucking impossible without them. I checked.
I think Rare had every intention of the game being played with a mouse.
After all, the SNES had one, so why wouldn't the N64?

[Anonymous No.9605725]

>>9605723
>And practically fucking impossible without them. I checked.
Damn, you suck.

[Anonymous No.9605731]

>>9605725
That's what I always thought until I played with mouse controls and realized "This is obviously how they intended it. Everyone I've ever talked to is a spastic moron and a bully for no reason, and they can't argue their own points properly."

[Anonymous No.9605738]

>>9605731
It took me a lot of practice, and now I can't play on any other difficulty but 00. It's fun, but I guess you're not interested.

[Anonymous No.9605739]

>>9605738
Sounds like getting used to climbing stairs with one foot. Complete with the cope lines. "This lack of a foot has given me a new lease on life!"

[Anonymous No.9605742]

>>9604153
Switch has improved textures, draw distance and framerate, it's a superior rom. But increasing the resolution for n64 is never the smart move.

[Anonymous No.9605770]

>>9605723
>I think Rare had every intention of the game being played with a mouse.
just take a step back and think about how retarded this statement is. it never had a pc port and there was never a chance of it getting one!

[Anonymous No.9605772]

>>9605770
>just take a step-
Okay you're just a black hole.
No effort comes from you.
Conversation chain ended.

[Anonymous No.9605786]

>Goldeneye is fucking boring with mouse look
I had fun. The biggest boost honestly has been the framerate, I used to play this and PD with the 1.2 scheme for easier strafing and aiming.

[Anonymous No.9605805]

>>9605772
i'm not even the same anon. you shouldn't be such a dismissive cunt.

[Anonymous No.9605804]

>>9605739
>y-you're the one coping, ch-chad...

[Anonymous No.9605812]

>>9605786
is this frame rate correctly increased or is it fast animations, because that kind of ruins movement

[Anonymous No.9605821]

>>9605786
Whether you enjoy it or not, you're not even playing the same game any longer.

[Anonymous No.9605823]

>>9605812
It doesn't ruin shit. Shut your gob.

[Anonymous No.9605824]

>>9605821

[Anonymous No.9605827]

>>9605823
judging by that hostile response, I got my answer

[Anonymous No.9605828]

>>9605739
But the standard game has no mouse controls. Your analogy is more like you wanting to use those motorized grocery store cart chairs because you're a fat fuck and lazy.

[Anonymous No.9605836]

>>9605812
It's felt correct so far. I haven't ran into the same issues as I did years ago. One of the bigger issues was it gave the AK an insane rate of fire.
>>9605821
Yeah, not with this high fps. It almost feels like any mob shootout was made with the chunky slowdown in mind, same goes for PD.

[Anonymous No.9605839]

>>9605723
>00 Agent missions are still hard with mouse controls. And practically fucking impossible without them. I checked.
Fucking how? I managed to do most of them legit in my scrub-ass teenage years, I only used the button cheats for a few because I could never quite meet the time to unlock the secret levels. I kept getting JUST seconds over and I eventually lost it, I wasn't gonna miss out on those levels I had heard about for years.

Besides that, I could eventually reach the target time on a lot of the tougher levels on 00 Agent, such as Facility and Control, the latter where I felt like a king for pulling through on the second. This was with a gamepad where the analog stick was getting to be loose and mushy, and I by far preferred playing without the aim assist (which people tell me is actually a disadvantage). I had a lot stacked against me and I still did this stuff.

>>9605731
You should stop being bad at videogames. My claims here aren't exactly extraordinary, these aren't bragworthy, you ought to be able to tie a lot of the 00 times with some brief practicing.

[Anonymous No.9605845]

>>9605828
Nah my analogy is great.
Yours is a cheap knockoff.

[Anonymous No.9605847]

>>9605839
>Fucking how?-
Stopped reading.
>You should stop-
Taken at your word. Stopped reading.

[Anonymous No.9605853]

>>9605739
Sounds like someone making a lot of excuses for being bad at videogames.

>>9605847
I suppose your attention span doesn't allow for much else.

[Anonymous No.9605862]

>>9605853

[Anonymous No.9605921]

>>9605845
No one says you can't enjoy the game using a hack that adds mouse controls, anon. No need to justify why you can't beat the game without them.

[Anonymous No.9605938]

>>9604384
The ground texture looks too much like dry dirt but in gray, it needs to be made more like a road like in the original.

[Anonymous No.9605942]

>>9605938
honestly on a real console at 240p it looks a lot more like the bottom than the top

[Anonymous No.9605983]

>>9604018
Didn't the guy who started the mod literally fucking die?

[Anonymous No.9606003]

>switch fucked up the music
>xbox is fine but its not the cancled xbla remaster

[Anonymous No.9606010]

>>9605942
I disagree the top one always looked like a road to me, and having the grain go along the bridge added to that but the bottom looks more like cracked dry dirt than a road.

[Anonymous No.9606104]

>>9605839
>and I by far preferred playing without the aim assist (which people tell me is actually a disadvantage
Depends. Aim assist will probably land more shots as it instantly homes in on the center of mass but turning it off and (quickly) adjusting your hip-fire aim to head level will generally kill faster through headshot damage.

[Anonymous No.9606346]

Auto-aim off
Pistols
License to Kill

[Anonymous No.9606349]

So this just confirms /vr/ is filled with 20 year old switch playing zoomers, right?

[Anonymous No.9606356]

>>9606349
I literally just beat it again last week on a 64 on 00 Agent
some people are playing it again after a long time and it has online MP

[Anonymous No.9606371]

>>9606356
>I literally just beat it
>for the first time
>because I'm a dumb zoomer
Yeah, I know

[Anonymous No.9606375]

>>9606371
>just beat it again
learn to read projector anon

[Anonymous No.9606385]

>>9605839
Shut up.
I am not talking about early levels.
Do you remember Control?
On Secret Agent or higher?
Don't tell me these games have adequate aiming for the amount of enemies coming at you.

[Anonymous No.9606390]

>>9606375
Dumb zoomer

[Anonymous No.9606393]

>>9606390
I have never seen one intelligent post where someone used the term zoomer or boomer as an insult

[Anonymous No.9606394]

>>9606393
because it's always the same person. it's the same as aussiekun, there out themselves everytime they post, so you should stop acting surprised.

[Anonymous No.9606396]

>>9606394
I'm not, I just prefer calling people out so everyone else can disregard the stupidity

[Anonymous No.9606427]

>>9606393
That's because you're a dumb zoomer who gets mad when people call you out for being a fucking retard. Dumb zoomer

[Anonymous No.9606451]

>>9606393
>>9606394
>t. zoomers

[Anonymous No.9606453]

>>9605050
these multiplayer oldies on switch don't have random queuing? that sucks

[Anonymous No.9606782]

>>9606385
bruh you have to take cover and use the lean feature.

or be like me and play 1.2 solitaire which gives you free look all the time and movement with the c buttons ala turok.

[Anonymous No.9606814]

>>9606782
Are you forgetting the part with the double staircases, or something
They're not shooting at you they're shooting at Natalya.

Regardless what you say, FUCK IT.
MOUSE CONTROL IS SO CLEARLY MORE FUN.

[Anonymous No.9606862]

>>9606003
the music's 100% fine, its just the weird twitter video nintendo posted
t. has it on nso

[Anonymous No.9607028]

Stop paying for roms you homogays.

https://github.com/Graslu/1964GEPD/releases

[Anonymous No.9607035]

>>9606782
There's a lean feature?

[Anonymous No.9607039]

>>9606782
I prefer to use that but with the DPAD and stick instead of C buttons

[Anonymous No.9607489]

>>9605714
HEY GUESS WHAT.
I just went and played a bunch of missions. Just completed Silo on 00 Agent. And, WHOOOOA, I'M RIGHT.

THIS SHIT IS BARELY PLAYABLE WITHOUT MOUSE LOOK.
You know how I know for sure they intended for there to be an N64 Mouse peripheral like the SNES had?
Pic related.
The fact that you can play like this, with two controllers, meant that they fully intended a mouse/controller hybrid from the beginning.

>"But you don't understand it HAS TO BE BAD!! >A<"
>"Functional controls makes the game too easy!! And not fun! All that fun you had, you were just mistaken!!"
>"How can I be questioned when I like things that are hard for no reason?! YOU BAD"
This is retarded. You're retarded.
Do not reply to me with the wrong opinion again.

[Anonymous No.9607521]

>>9607028
This is just an emulator

[Anonymous No.9607547]

>>9607489
myself and a million other kids beat this game on 00 agent with the default scheme.
u r just bad at vidya

[Anonymous No.9607550]

>>9607547
Yes.
You beat a barely playable mess because it was the only game in town.
Good for you. So did I way back when.
The fact has not changed.

[Anonymous No.9607571]

>>9607489
>>9607550
this is fascinating watching you be retarded like this do go on

[Anonymous No.9607590]

>>9604202
>on your phone
Yo what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.9607613]

>>9607590
frfr no cap it be bussin

[Anonymous No.9607624]

>>9606385
Something tells me you have completely forgotten your dead aim skills. Don't feel bad it happens.

[Anonymous No.9607628]

>>9605723
You are just retarded.
I was able to beat the 00 mission back in the day without breaking a controller. Game was challenging but perfectly doable.
Sure mouse look is superior but claiming its impossible otherwise is just a you issue

[Anonymous No.9607642]

>>9605723
>And practically fucking impossible without them. I checked.
Imagine being so shit at a kids game, lmao.

[Anonymous No.9607674]

>>9607489
NTA. As far as I know, Rare did actually build in the duel controller option in the original release. Don't have it anymore but other sources have said this. They also claim it's easier. But almost none of us did this because, besides the higher cost, it seems really stupid to use two controllers. It could be argued the controller just wasn't very good or their game design wasn't good. But yeah, technically you're probably correct. The best kind of correct on /vr/ so congrats.

[Anonymous No.9607680]

>>9607674
[Addendum] I couldn't find anything about Rare explicitly intending mouse play. But I also didn't look that hard. So partly technically correct at least. (Technically.)

[Anonymous No.9607694]

>>9607489
so how the fuck were you meant to change weapons on this set up with your hands positioned as they are

[Anonymous No.9607709]

>>9607674
>>9607680
Rare liked pushing the N64 beyond its limits. Make a game mode for two controller sjust because? "Sure lets see if we can", that is the kind of attitude they had back then. I always assumed it was intended for some couch co-op though.

[Anonymous No.9607720]

>>9607709
>I always assumed it was intended for some couch co-op though.
Yeah that's probably how my young brain registered it. Using two controllers just seems so goofy, that's probably why I didn't even remember it as I saw it on the original.

[Anonymous No.9607751]

this game just came out on gamepass too. So weird. Is MP coming to the xbox version?

[Anonymous No.9607784]

>>9607751
No. Local only for Xbox.

[Anonymous No.9607794]

>>9607784
thats fucking homosexual. Whats even the point? The only people who care about MP FPS are going to be boomers on xbox. And its not even the leaked XBLA port, what are they doing?

[Anonymous No.9607804]

>>9607571
You got nothin' huh?

[Anonymous No.9607806]

>>9607624
A joystick is fucking terrible for aiming.
Especially when you cannot adjust the sensitivity in-game.
>>9607628
>You are just retarded.
No no. Review everything I said. You have to respond to it all. Until then, YOU are retarded. :^)

[Anonymous No.9607814]

No one played Perfect Dark when that came out on Xbox 360, it ain't going to change now.

[Anonymous No.9607817]

>>9607694
Do some cross-controller nonsense where your pinky (or whatever handy nub) presses the button on the opposite hand's controller.
Or use your tongue.

[Anonymous No.9607825]

>>9605723
>I checked.
kek you just reminded me of this for some reason.

[Anonymous No.9607830]

Here's how this release is going to down.
>Nintendrones who've been hyping up this rerelease will play it for a few days, maybe make some tweets about how "this game is still so amazing I can't even" and then never touch it or speak of it again
>Speedrunners will analyze every nanometer of the port and make multiple 40-minute videos of spliced-together VODs about how the game is now "unplayable" because there's a 2 second skip on Silo that no longer works
>Anons who have never speedran and never will will start linking these videos about why the port is "so fucking bad"
>Zoomers playing for the first time will begin making video essays about how Goldeneye "was never good"
>/v/ will begin consolewarring about which version is better
>Most discussion about the rerelease will die down in about 2 weeks
>4 months from now the weekly "what went wrong?" threads will begin

[Anonymous No.9607834]

>>9607794
>what are they doing?
The bare minimum.
Nintendo probably treating this as a major release too so this will be the only NSO game added for the next nine months.

[Anonymous No.9607845]

>>9607825
>Nintendrones-
Stopped reading.
Save your hatred for the end or no one's gonna bother.

[Anonymous No.9607846]

>>9607804
anon there is nothing to get, the game is perfectly beatable at all the given difficulties with the default control schemes, the dual controller setup you claim is totally proof of an intended mouselook doesn't even make sense given how the game switches between hip-fire and like a super-early version of ADS/Iron Sight aim, it doesn't function like a contemporary mouselook FPS at all, not to mention the fucking game was originally meant to be an on-rails shooter like Virtua Cop. You're just kinda shit at the game anon, it's okay to admit that

[Anonymous No.9607847]

My best friend enforced house rules whenever we played together where no one could shoot an unarmed player.

[Anonymous No.9607848]

>>9607846
I'm right.
Can't you just be right?

[Anonymous No.9607853]

>>9607848
lol, lmao even

[Anonymous No.9607856]

>>9607853
Oh. I guess you cannot.
Oh well.

[Anonymous No.9607858]

>>9607853
>>9607856
C'mon guys. Can't we all just be friends?
Buddies bonded by Bond, if you will?

[Anonymous No.9607873]

>>9607858
Mouse control makes the game more fun and was clearly the intention from the beginning since the SNES had a mouse and they were gonna push for an N64 mouse.
No compromises.

[Anonymous No.9607878]

>>9605983
Everyone does.

[Anonymous No.9607885]

>>9607873

[Anonymous No.9607890]

>>9607885
shh don't tell them

[Anonymous No.9607892]

>>9607873
Wut.
Why make this up?

[Anonymous No.9607894]

>>9604004
> So who here is trying to get their shit rocked when the online drops
Friends list only on switch. No playing random people so I hope you coordinate with your “switch friends”

[Anonymous No.9607908]

>>9607894
Thats what I hate. Like, if I had friends I'd obviously just get them over to play with. Thought online was ment to be for no friend loosers, like me, to always have someone to play with.

[Anonymous No.9607923]

>>9607892
OG N64 controllers had very precise movements for the thumbstick. Its easy for me to see why he mistakes that mouse friendly precision for being made for the mouse when it is made for the thumbstick.

[Anonymous No.9607926]

>>9607873
>>9607885
I don't get it. Was there a highly popular keyboard and mouse for the N64 that every kid in Japan had and we're just ignorant gaijin? The intentions here shouldn't be that hard to cite. It could be fun behind the scenes history.

[Anonymous No.9607937]

>>9607926
No, there was a mouse that shipped with Mario Artist for the 64DD. It never saw compatibility with or was even rumored to be compatible with PD as it came out a few years after Goldeneye in the first place. Mouselook anon is just bad at the game and trying to justify how shit they are

[Anonymous No.9607961]

>>9607885
Yes.
https://nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/Nintendo_64_Mouse

[Anonymous No.9607962]

>>9607937
>Mouselook anon is just bad at the game and trying to justify how shit they are
You're not even trying.

[Anonymous No.9607965]

This is one of the weirdest hills I've ever seen an anon choose to die on.

[Anonymous No.9607974]

>>9607965
If you're right, every hill is the hill to die on.
Don't suffer fools gladly, cunt

[Anonymous No.9607981]

>>9607489
mindbroken

[Anonymous No.9607984]

>>9607981
Come up with something that stings.
Stop pretending to be different people.

[Anonymous No.9607986]

>>9607937
Yeah that scans. Although I can see why younger retro enthusiasts would be mad. The N64 controller was always awkward and the framerate was always bad on Goldeneye. It's expensive to even get a Switch N64 controller for a more authentic experience. I have no nostalgia for most Atari games and only care about them as parts of video game history. I find most of them awkward and not fun. That's probably where Mouseboy is coming from. It didn't seem that hard at the time, but I also had to walk up a snowy hill both ways to get fresh batteries for my Game Gear every couple hours.

[Anonymous No.9607998]

I don't think it was even a given with people that mouselook was the way to play shooters when Goldeneye was in development. It came out a year after Quake, and it was in development for a while because it was supposed to come out on the Snes initially. Nothing about the way shooters are "supposed" to control was really settled with people at that point. A lot of people just played with their keyboards.

[Anonymous No.9608021]

>>9607998
If you've played it with mouselook, it fits like a glove. It works way too well to have not been a consideration.

[Anonymous No.9608040]

>>9608021
I've already said this before, the OG N64 controller thumbsticks were very precise. Yes I am saying they were as precise as a mouse.

[Anonymous No.9608053]

>>9608040
Drivel. Babble, even.
Claims of this or that being precise means nothing.
They work nothing like each other.

[Anonymous No.9608076]

>>9608053
The N64 polls x/y axis positions of the thumbstick and button presses. Mouse aiming is just a matter of translating the position of the mouse to x/y positions the game can recognize. So yes precision is everything because those are all what the thumbstick itself can be read and interpreted as.

[Anonymous No.9608080]

N64 stick is definitely way better for moving a curser around a screen than any stick since. I didn't even realise until recently when I went back to playing on the real hardware.
The right stick on a modern controller should have sensitivity like that. I don't know why that never actually became a thing. People just don't know what they're missing, I guess.

[Anonymous No.9608081]

>>9608076
No.
They work nothing like each other.
The motions aren't the same.
The feeling is not the same.
I shouldn't need to be telling you this shit. This is a brick wall.

[Anonymous No.9608084]

>>9608076
No.
They work nothing like each other.
The motions aren't the same.
The feeling is not the same.
The limits are not the same.
I shouldn't need to be telling you this shit. This is a brick wall.

[Anonymous No.9608091]

>>9605742
>But increasing the resolution for n64 is never the smart move.
yes it is.

[Anonymous No.9608092]

>>9608081
>>9608081
>The motions aren't the same
>The limits aren't the same.
It doesn't matter, since we are talking about software programming and not your nonsensical "feelings". The OG N64 controllers had the most precise and sensitive analog inpiut to this day, you will never get the same accuracy of position from other controllers. This translates to a very easy and simple conversion when translating x/y positions for the mouse with little to no issues. It is that simple.

[Anonymous No.9608093]

>>9608092
>It doesn't matter
Yes it does.

[Anonymous No.9608098]

>>9605742
It was a feature of the original game.

[Anonymous No.9608103]

>>9608093
The program doesn't care about your feelings or how you physically move a mouse vs a thumbstick and if the N64 controller wasn't that good then more effort would need to be made for converting to mouse controls for GoldenEye.
Anyways its obvious you are willfully ignorant of the specs of hardware so its best to just right you off as a midwit.
>>9608080
Its not that they can't, its that f they did then there would be a lot of thumbsticks getting worn out and failing much earlier. Deadzones are a common problem with the OG N64 controllers.

[Anonymous No.9608118]

>>9608103
>The program doesn't-
It matters.
You thought you'd skate by saying it doesn't matter? You think you can just keep changing the subject as you please until you recant this? Haha. Little clown.

[Anonymous No.9608130]

what you're trying to say is that a company can't improve upon their first ever thumbstick design after 3 decades of advancements in manufacturing processes?

[Anonymous No.9608141]

>>9608130
>what you're trying to say is
Is that it matters if it's a stick or mouse.
It matters.
Do you recant?
I really do stop reading where the greentext stops, you know.

[Anonymous No.9608162]

>>9608141
I was just being ironic
go sperg somewhere else you jaded manchild

[Anonymous No.9608263]

>>9604332
Yeah there’s no sugarcoating the fact that the controls suck major ass
Every time my dad used to walk in when I was playing battlefield 1 I’d give him my controller, tell him to play, and laugh as he struggled with basic movement. Now I am the goofball trying to simply look around in a 20 year old game I used to play as a kid. Very humbling I guess

[Anonymous No.9608353]

>>9607962
There's only one guy here who isn't trying, and it's the guy who thinks a modestly challenging game is impossible to beat on its highest setting without cheating.

[Anonymous No.9609028]

I’ve decided to follow in mouseanons footsteps. From here on out I declare that super Mario kart is literally unplayable without a force feedback steering wheel and pedals

[Anonymous No.9609097]

How do you enable gyro aiming?

[Anonymous No.9609106]

>>9608353
I said something I came up with.
And you said something I came up with.
On your way.

[Anonymous No.9609110]

>>9609097
If. Fucking. Only.

[Anonymous No.9609126]

>>9608080
Agreed. Assuming the devs do a good job. I've tried emulating Rogue Squadron with an optical mouse, the usual Xbox controller, and a joystick at various points. All of them leave me wanting for that goofy original controller. Mouse Anon is trolling or something, but Nintendo is trolling harder with the price and availability of that new N64 controller.

[Anonymous No.9609246]

>>9608263
Eyup.
First thing you gotta do is change the button mapping. Change the left stick to right and vice versa.

[Anonymous No.9609316]

>>9604254
The trailers literally show you what you get, there's no speculation, and you're wrong

[Anonymous No.9609323]

>>9605983
No he killed himself and yes there is a difference

[Anonymous No.9609350]

>>9607035
yes.

while holding AIM (usually the "R" shoulder button) you use STRAFE LEFT OR RIGHT (usually left or right c button) to lean.

note that this ALSO steadies Bond's aim. you will notice that even while focused aiming, Bond will still bob.

if you free aim, then LEAN left or right, bond's aim is MUCH more stable.

holy fuck zoomer get out.
>dark souls is the hardest game EVER omg guyz
>can't even lean in fucking goldeneye

i can't stand nu gamers. ya'll have no fucking clue. this is the fucking retro gaming 4chan and motherfuckers don't know how to fucking LEAN

[Anonymous No.9609354]

>>9607489
On 1.2 Solitaire, put your right hand on the middle prong and your left hand on the left prong and you have modern FPS controls
I have no fucking idea how people still don't get this

[Anonymous No.9609378]

>>9607847
My brother and I used to do this when we'd play with our dad.

[Anonymous No.9609523]

I've gotten as fair as beating Depot on 00 agent, and I feel even more vindicated, which shouldn't even be possible.

Don't confuse 'beatable' with 'playable.' This is barely playable. All of your enemies can aim much faster than you with this setup. Nothing feels good about budging the red reticle juuuust right, for like 4 seconds, only to get cucked out of your shot by some potshot off to your side, or behind you, which you never would've been there for if it didn't take so long to aim.

Devil May Cry 1 had a bad camera. Would you dispute this?

[Anonymous No.9609592]

>>9609523
>Devil May Cry 1 had a bad camera. Would you dispute this?
Yes. I actually prefer fixed cameras for action games. You just play the game, and aren't fiddling with the second stick constantly.

[Anonymous No.9609606]

>>9609354
I just walk with the C buttons. I don't find it that disorientating.

[Anonymous No.9609610]

>>9609606
that's fine, however I prefer using the Dpad for walking and strafing and my right hand to aim, I think aiming with my left is a bit wonky

[Anonymous No.9609651]

>>9609592
>You just play the game, and aren't fiddling with the second stick constantly.
Are you forgetting the DMC1 experience entirely

[Anonymous No.9609656]

>>9609523
The manual aim should be used as little as possible, e.g. only to take out specific targets like cameras or distant shit with sniper rifle. Also getting their attention and hide behind a corner, let them come to you instead.

[Anonymous No.9609774]

>>9609656
>Also getting their attention and hide behind a corner, let them come to you instead.
Zzzzzz Zzzzzz Zzzzzz

[Anonymous No.9609776]

>>9609656
>Also getting their attention and hide behind a corner, let them come to you instead.
Zzzzzz Zzzzzz Zzzzzz

But aside from how I feel about it. These are not the NPCs you think they are. They will camp in the same spot FOREVER sometimes. Regardless what's happening to their komrades.

[Anonymous No.9609850]

>>9607489
>Goes back to check
>Finds hes still bad at video games
>gets mad on the internet.
Many such cases

[Anonymous No.9609859]

You can walk and aim in the Xbox version.

[Anonymous No.9609861]

>>9609859
isn't it possible to make the analog stick the right one and the left stick make the Dpad?

[Anonymous No.9609876]

>>9609850
Eh, kinda weak reply if I'm honest.

[Anonymous No.9609896]

>>9609859
Yeah I don't have that hardware to check, but I just watched Modern Vintage Gamer say the controls are "like a dream" on Xbox. But no online and glitchy graphics due to brute upscaling there. He was vague (probably for liability reasons) but basically said he thinks both versions are flawed on purpose to satisfy some legal or budget issue and will never be significantly improved. Seems like if you're dead set on the new release, docked switch with a N64 controller and friends you can add would be ideal. Sadly it's hard to buy the controller or friends.

[Anonymous No.9609924]

>>9609859
You could always walk and aim in Goldeneye. Switch to Solitaire.

[Anonymous No.9609930]

>>9609924
No you couldn't. When you aim it freezes you in place.

[Anonymous No.9609945]

>it was like this
>No it was like this
Somehow this thread has turned into the Mandela Effect thread. Human brains, amirite?

[Anonymous No.9609968]

>>9609930
If you use steady aim. Not for regular aim.

[Anonymous No.9610000]

>>9609968
But that's what I'm saying. On Xbox you can walk with the red manual aiming now.

[Anonymous No.9610334]

This game controls very badly.
The aiming is unforgivable and the last 3 story levels are a disgusting travesty and a farce on 00 Agent.
Fuck you. I don't care if you beat it. I've beaten it. That doesn't make this any less fucked.
Your aiming is SHIT, and the enemy accuracy goes way too high once they start wearing berets. Why is that necessary when the final level restricts you to STRAIGHT TRACKS WITH NO COVER?
I'm fresh off of playing Cradle on 00 Agent. Don't @ me.

[Anonymous No.9610352]

>>9609776
You only take cover when overwhelmed offcourse. Stop being a retard.

[Anonymous No.9610359]

>>9610334
Retard complaining about the difficulty on the last level at highest difficulty.

[Anonymous No.9610383]

>>9610359
EGYPTIAN IS THE LAST LEVEL.
DO NOT @ ME STUPID CUNT

[Anonymous No.9610392]

>>9610383
Not in the normal campaign, retard.
Stop being so dumb

[Anonymous No.9610396]

>>9610392

[Anonymous No.9610418]

>>9610396
No

[Anonymous No.9610423]

>>9610418
ABRA KADABRA THE GOALPOST HAS MOVED AGAIN

[Anonymous No.9610609]

>>9607794
The Switch version can only do it because it's using the generic online feature that all their NSO retro games use, you're still by and large just playing the vanilla N64 game like all the others on the service.
What would have been nice though is if the Xbox version included those developer videos and concept art that was supposedly recorded way back when Rare Replay was first being made and they assumed that they'd be able to put Goldeneye in the collection back then.

[Anonymous No.9610619]

>>9607817
Right hand could still hit the A and B buttons on the second controller just fine. It was finnicky and you needed big ass hands to do it, but it worked.
Then Perfect Dark came out and that shit just didn't work because of how much more complex PD's missions were in comparison.

[Anonymous No.9610794]

>>9607923
It's something a lot of people don't seem to get. It's not necessarily the range of movement the original stick offers but the actuation that allows you to move through the middle radius, something entirely lost on modern sticks even if they're hall effect.

[Anonymous No.9610846]

>>9604383
Yes you can set the controls to 1.2

[Anonymous No.9611049]

>>9609316
I tried both last night, turns out I was entirely right.

[Anonymous No.9611496]

>>9609323
Goldeneye source is haunted

[Anonymous No.9611521]

>>9611496
haunted by the shitty gun game server
there was that one dude who was making a server that actually had all the classic game modes to be voted on, got it running, then shut down the server and fucked off forever

and it didn't run like shit like the other one either

[Anonymous No.9611529]

>>9610794
yeah the controls are impossible to recreate without the same stick design. F-Zero X has the same problem, trying to play that with a potentiometer stick is fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.9611535]

>>9604004
>The emulation has more bugs than a 3rd world dwelling.

I'll stick with my original chad-hardware.

[Anonymous No.9611649]

>>9610619
I SAID USE YOUR TONGUE

[Anonymous No.9612209]

>>9609523
>Nothing feels good about budging the red reticle juuuust right, for like 4 seconds
Barring taking a careful shot at an unaware enemy or maybe a turret (and even THEN), why the fuck are you taking as long as fucking FOUR whole seconds to line up a shot in the heat of combat? Stop being fucking slow, you should be able to make a careful aimed shot in one second.

>>9610334
FUCK YOU, STOP BEING SHIT AT VIDEOGAMES YOU GODDAMN CATAMITE

G I T
U
D

[Anonymous No.9612273]

>>9604018
That one was the shit

[Anonymous No.9613493]

>>9607028
Good post

[Anonymous No.9613534]

>>9612209
Heat of combat, what the fuck are you TALKING about.
The game constantly spawns in new guys behind you.
>you should be able to make a careful aimed shot in one second
STOP SAYING THINGS THAT I'VE ALREADY EXPLAINED AGAINST
YOU CAN'T.
THE CONTROLS ARE NOT GOOD.
STOP PRETENDING THIS IS VIABLE.

[Anonymous No.9613663]

>>9605839

> I had a lot stacked against me using the intended control scheme
> I had to use the hidden button cheats literally nobody knew in the 1990s to finish the game

Zoomers fuck off GAGDAR

[Anonymous No.9613742]

>>9604004
The controls are fine I just think Goldeneye uses artificial difficulty in spawning a whole bunch of shitty enemies nonstop and putting you in useless locations with like 50 buildings to go in and let you figure it out while you waste your time. Second half is weaker than the first but has its moments, Control is top 5 Levels.

[Anonymous No.9613902]

>>9613742
Part of the game is playing the levels over and over to find an optimal path. They're all rather short and self-contained.

[Anonymous No.9613974]

Is there anyone looking into the NSO app emulation of this game? As far as I know no emulator plays the gunbarrel at the correct speed. It always annoyed me that the logo didn't line up with the end of the riff. The only way to do it on PC now is to emulate this in Ryujinx or wait for the port.

[Anonymous No.9614561]

>>9613902
I know that and Ive replayed it like 3 times but that doesnt make the street levels any better

[Anonymous No.9614575]

>>9614561
You get a tank though.

[Anonymous No.9614627]

>>9614575
I cannot for the life of me cant complete it with the tank, I always run. When Im in the tank I usually just crash into shit, get killed by rocket guys or mines, etc.

[Anonymous No.9614783]

>>9604026

If it doesn’t drop into single digits when stuff starts exploding, then you aren’t really playing the same game

[Anonymous No.9614912]

>>9610383
Technically Egyptian is the second bonus level, not the last level. That's why it was made so easy.

[Anonymous No.9614921]

>>9614627
Just takes a bit of practice and coordination to get used to the controls in that mode. Used to be in the same situation you were, but now I can do 00 Agent Runway in an about a minute with it and 00 Agent Streets in about 2:30 with it.

[Anonymous No.9614956]

007 was fun to play on the couch with your bros... online multiplayer would just be "haha nostalgia" for 5 minutes and then boredom as you realize it's just a really dated and clunky fps...

[Anonymous No.9615320]

>>9606782
Are there people who don't play with Solitaire?

[Anonymous No.9615551]

>>9613534
FUCK YOU, YOU'RE MAKING UP EXCUSES FOR WHY YOU ARE BAD AT VIDEOGAMES, YOU ARE A FUCKING SCRUBSHIT FAGGOT WHO CAN'T ADAPT EVEN THE SLIGHTEST, THE CONTROLS ARE GOOD, YOU JUST FUCKING SUCK BECAUSE YOU'RE DEVELOPMENTALLY CHALLENGED

GIT GUD OR DIE

[Anonymous No.9615957]

>>9615551
Motherfucker I did the 100 super jumps in Mario RPG.
Do not talk to me about mere DIFFICULTY.
Get down on your knees and beg for my forgiveness.

[Anonymous No.9615960]

>>9615551
Motherfucker I did the 100 super jumps in Mario RPG.
I beat Pilotwings. Normal and expert, in one sitting. You try doing that shit. Go ahead. Try it.
Do not talk to me about mere DIFFICULTY.
Get down on your knees and beg for my forgiveness.

[Anonymous No.9615964]

>>9615960
>Motherfucker I did the 100 super jumps in Mario RPG.
lol

[Anonymous No.9615969]

>>9615551
Yeah stupid do you know what that is?
Do you know how difficult and stressful it gets to do all 100 with perfect rhythm? You can't twitch or even breathe wrong. Bad reply.

--Actually now that I think about it. There's a very simple way you can PROVE all of this to me.
Okay so there's a button on the switch controllers which, if pressed quickly takes a snapshot, but if you hold it down it records the last 30 seconds and saves it as an MP4 on your memory card.
Do the Train level, 00 agent, and show me getting through the first two cars in 30 seconds. Demonstrate your aiming ability.
Post it here, or on /wsg/ and then link it from there. The size limit here is 4mb and muted, the filesize there is 6mb with sound.
If you cannot do this for me, again, get down on your knees and beg for my forgiveness.

[Anonymous No.9615972]

>>9615969
Yeah stupid do you know what that is?
Do you know how difficult and stressful it gets to do all 100 with perfect rhythm? You can't twitch or even breathe wrong. Bad reply.

--Actually now that I think about it. There's a very simple way you can PROVE all of this to me.
Okay so there's a button on the switch controllers which, if pressed quickly takes a snapshot, but if you hold it down it records the last 30 seconds and saves it as an MP4 on your memory card.
Do the Train level, 00 agent, and show me getting through the first two cars in 30 seconds. Demonstrate your aiming ability.
Post it here, or on /wsg/ and then link it from there. The size limit here is 4mb and muted, the filesize there is 6mb with sound.
If you cannot do this for me, again, get down on your knees and beg for my forgiveness.

[Anonymous No.9615974]

>>9615964
Yeah stupid do you know what that is?
Do you know how difficult and stressful it gets to do all 100 with perfect rhythm? You can't twitch or even breathe wrong. Bad reply.

--Actually now that I think about it. There's a very simple way you can PROVE all of this to me.
Okay so there's a button on the switch controllers which, if pressed quickly takes a snapshot, but if you hold it down it records the last 30 seconds and saves it as an MP4 on your memory card.
Do the Train level, 00 agent, and show me getting through the first two cars in 30 seconds. Demonstrate your aiming ability.
Post it here, or on /wsg/ and then link it from there. The size limit here is 4mb and muted, the filesize there is 6mb with sound.
If you cannot do this for me, again, get down on your knees and beg for my forgiveness.

[Anonymous No.9615979]

I'm not the guy you're talking to and I don't even really like Goldeneye, I just think that's a weird thing to bring up as a feat because it's not that bad, and even attempting it is an efficient way to play the game so once you get super jump you'll be trying for it a lot anyway. I don't know anything about Pilotwings either, but I'm pretty sure Arino beat it so I feel like it couldn't be that bad, either.

[Anonymous No.9615983]

>>9615979
>I'm not the guy you're talking to
Then I'm not reading the rest of this.

[Anonymous No.9617221]

>>9614783
>if the game isn't barely playable they you're barely playing the same game

[Anonymous No.9617227]

>>9615983
He's saying that you suck.

[Anonymous No.9617952]

>>9617227
Read: >>9615974

Do the task.

[Anonymous No.9617962]

>>9604004
>online on switch only
What the fuck were they smoking?

[Anonymous No.9617968]

>>9608091
Not through emulation unless you want 90% of title screens and hud displays to look like a mess of hideous of pixels, i dont get why people are okay with that

[Anonymous No.9617994]

yep it's a classic, still another n64 titan when it comes to multiplayer. The particles and debris during a full lobby shootout reminds me of FEAR oddly enough. About as fun as halo 1 in its own way i'd say, especially with all the extras. Autoaim and dk turbo mode, that's how you do a console shooter. Framerate being better helps modernize things, just dont add faggots from europe on your friendlist. And stop messing with the controls you faggot, just pick it up and play

[Anonymous No.9618936]

>>9617952
Stop making excuses for being bad at videogames. If I can do Control on 00 Agent with the original controller, why can't you? I'm unremarkable at the game, you have no excuse.

[Anonymous No.9619305]

>>9618936
Do the fucking task I asked of you.
What's the problem, you absolute animal protein?

[Anonymous No.9619791]

>>9619305
No, your excuses are invalid.

[Anonymous No.9619894]

Shocked by how garbage the xbox port is, playing on a series x and it's locked at 24 fps and they didn't even bother to slap in some auto hdr, the perfect dark port is light years ahead of this, what the fuck Rare. Oh that's right, no online multi-player but somehow the switch can handle it.