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9600025 No.9600025 [Reply] [Original]

How did such bad character design fly in FF games?

>> No.9600030

Seymour's hair makes sense when you consider the Guado are all tree people.

>> No.9600032

>>9600025
It always got flak from Western journos but it was ultimately brushed off as 'that's just what Japan is like'.

>> No.9600038

>>9600025
What the hell you can't have hair like that in fantasy settings.

>> No.9600042

>>9600025
i don't know who the guy is but what's the problem exactly
the hair tells me he seems like an evil bloke, got those bat wings and a horn, kinda like a demon
ya could say it's too on the nose but it's not like fantasy is praised for its subtlety or anything, ya still got all the basic tropes these days because they work, obviously subversions can be fun too though

>> No.9600043

>>9600030
SEe's obsession with hair never makes sense. There is an infinite number of things you could do with a tree race and the main guy is just a normal dude with balloon animals in his hair

>> No.9600045

>>9600042
>but what's the problem exactly
it looks retarded?

>> No.9600050
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>>9600043
Guados have giant hands and fingers that resemble tree roots, the hair grows in big clumped branches like tree limbs. Seymour is only a halfbreed though which would explain his smaller hands, the hair I can assume is him overcompensating for that since he lives with Guado and not Humans and was harassed as a child for not being Guado enough.

>> No.9600051
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9600051

>FFXII could finally be a more serious FF game
>intro is amazing
>suddenly have to play as this
>voice seven worse
It's like there is a femboi mandate

>> No.9600052

>>9600042
See >>9600043

>> No.9600053

>>9600045
for (you) maybe
i mean i ain't sayin it looks like the coolest thing ever made or anything but after decades you're probably gonna wanna go nuts with the character designs instead of just same ol same ol, hell part of that might well be due to bein past tech limitations and allowed to do such without confusing the player
>>9600051
that's the buffest femboy i ever seen
cool wardog pants and boots too

>> No.9600058

>>9600052
okay well that is pretty weird then if it's supposed to be look like a tree so yea fair enough

>> No.9600060

>>9600050
His hair doesn't even look like branches either. Just symmetric generic fantasy/tribal stuff

>> No.9600062

>>9600050
His torso always looked really weird to me. Like there's obviously inhuman skeletal structure or musculature going on there.

>> No.9600063

>>9600051
I would rather play as him than a dweeb like Hope.

>> No.9600068
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9600068

>>9600025
Nomura has yakuza ties

>> No.9600071

>>9600043
>balloon animals in his hair
Might be just shitty CGI but yeah he's too goofy

>> No.9600076

>>9600068
Malos made it work

>> No.9600083
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9600083

Are we sure this isn't Yoshida? He likes to draw zigzaggy hair too

>> No.9600093

>>9600032
That's silly considering there are a lot of JRPGs with mostly normal character design

>> No.9600098

>>9600068
There is a reason 6, 9 and 12 are the best FFs.

>> No.9600101

>>9600068
Leave Rikku alone, she’s a good girl.

>> No.9600104

>>9600068
Anyone high up in the entertainment industry has family ties, anyone and everyone. Nomura's family is probably the equivalent of Japanese nobility.

>> No.9600109

>>9600093
Japan has been known almost exclusively for crazy hair cartoon people ever since DBZ

>> No.9600117
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9600117

>>9600030
No it makes sense with the rest of the Guado race because their hair actually looks like part of a plant. Seymour is only half-Guado and also doesn't have hair like the rest of them.

>> No.9600120

>>9600051
>that
>femboy
Vaan is pretty damn jacked, anon.

>> No.9600123

Anime hair + more realistic art style just makes your characters look like they are supposed to be k pop idols. It all went downhill with 7

>> No.9600128

>>9600120
>that
>not femboy
ff did a number on people

>> No.9600129

>>9600051
>It's like there is a femboi mandate
Unironically there was, to an extent. As for Vaan, his design would've been fine if he'd just wear a shirt under the vest, or if he had to wear that, make his face a bit more masculine. As it stands, though, he looks gay as fuck.

>> No.9600135

>>9600128
I've fucked enough femboys to know the difference, thank you very much. Vaan is firmly in twunk territory.

>> No.9600139
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9600139

>>9600129
>As for Vaan, his design would've been fine if he'd just wear a shirt under the vest
Which he does in Revenant Wings, and looks way better, hence why I modded in the shirt for the pc release

>> No.9600146

>NOOO WHY IS A FANTASY GAME BEING FANTASTICAL WHY ARENT THEY WEARING H&M WHITE T SHIRTS WITH LEVI JEANS DOC MARTENS SHOES AND A CREW CUT HAIRCUT NAMED JOHN SMITH SET IN WALMART AHHHHHHHHH

>> No.9600150
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>>9600120
he literally has negative muscle mass since they grew inwardly in the original game and are basically holes

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9600160

>>9600146
>FANTASTICAL
But it isn't. They literally have scene boy hair and Final Fantasy specifically is the series to include real life clothes and branches

>> No.9600161
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9600161

>>9600146
Now you're talking

>> No.9600163

>>9600150
That jacked fella looks scary

>> No.9600164

>>9600160
To be fair, scenefags copied anime, not vice versa

>> No.9600169

>>9600160
>>9600161
The most cringe inducing vidya series ever

>> No.9600174

>>9600051
>>9600129
Weren't Vaan and Penelo late additions to the game just because someone higher up was like "eh there's not enough pretty young people in the game for the audience, fix that", which is why the two are about as story irrelevant as you can get?
>big important cutscene happens
>Vaan and Penelo are in the background making FFT jokes

>> No.9600179

>>9600169
It's neck and neck with Kingdom Hearts

>> No.9600185

>>9600062
he's a stinking guado

>> No.9600189

>>9600150
Unironically it's supposed to be a 6-pack but modeled really really badly.

>> No.9600191

>>9600169
Hey now.
That game is actually really good, unironically and against all expectations. Not retro though.

>> No.9600196
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9600196

>>9600174
Well Penelo I'm not sure but no Vaan was always going to be in the game and always going to be a party member. He just wasn't originally the point-of-view character for the player until late. I don't feel like typing out a defense for him so here's someone else that did years back.

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>>9600025
They know their audience

>> No.9600210

>>9600191
I'd certainly hope so, given it's pretty much the Duke Nukem Forever of RPGs.

>> No.9600214

>>9600189
Wait what. How does this even happen with such a huge billion dollar IP

>> No.9600216

>>9600025
How did the gameplay?

>> No.9600218

>>9600160
Nomura takes inspiration from visual kei tho

>> No.9600223

>>9600139
>just wear a shirt under the vest
wow. unironically that design is 100% better with that

>> No.9600226
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>>9600169
Imagine cringing at fun

>> No.9600243

>>9600214
FFXII uniquely has really wierd issues with trying to diplay lighting on human character models, everyone looks like they have sunken eyes and shit. I don't know why this is, maybe they were trying to replicate Vagrant Story's art, but as a result a lot of the human characters just look "off" in some way.

>> No.9600249

>>9600139
>a simple shirt instantly brings him from a little Aladdin-imitating twink into a dashing swashbuckler
amazing

>> No.9600253
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9600253

>>9600243
They all have this "painted" look to them, similar to how MS rendered the characters. Maybe there was some employee crossover in development.

>> No.9600256

>>9600218
>Nomiro takes inspiration from the gayest thing on earth bar none
We can tell, anon, we can tell

>> No.9600269
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9600269

Well Seymour, I made it, despite your directions.

>> No.9600271

>>9600253
>They all have this "painted" look to them
True but the issue is they clearly ran into issues when drawing shadows on human skin

>> No.9600283

Guado genocide when

>> No.9600348
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9600348

>>9600283
Dey ain't so bad, bruddah. Dem Al-Bhed on da odda hand...

>> No.9600381
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9600381

>>9600160
>>9600161
There are games with actual 'fantastical' art influenced by fairy tales and baroque and no gay stuff but it's not cool enough for most people

>> No.9600385

>>9600348
faces looked so weird in x

>> No.9600652

>>9600283
Doesn't one basically happen between X and X-2 by the Ronso in revenge for Seymour's attack on them?

>> No.9600693

>>9600269
kek

>> No.9600701

>>9600385
Not gonna lie, when I first booted up my PS2 with FFX on Christmas morning and saw that opening crawl with the close-ups on Tidus and Yuna's faces, my jaw dropped.

>> No.9600746
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>>9600025

>> No.9600771

>>9600025
Never understood how adult men put up with this or the writing and cutscenes

>> No.9600779

they made seymour look too evil from the start, nobody can trust a nigga who has visible blue veins on his face and 100kg of aquanet hairspray on

>>9600701
same, it looks like shit now but this was basically lifelike when it launched

>> No.9600815

>>9600779
I was so impressed that despite the fact that I could tell the FMVs apart from the in-engine cutscenes, I actually remember my brother and I agreeing that they were close to indistinguishable, which they really aren't but again, I was used to the difference being night and day as on the PS1 titles, having just played those the year prior.

>> No.9600862

Play Forspoken.

>> No.9600961

>>9600253
holy fuck I forgot how completely alien this game looks. I don't want to say it's hideous because I'm sure there's someone out there that likes the look for legitimate reasons but christ is it off-putting

>> No.9600962

>>9600025
absurd character design add an element of surrealism

>> No.9600967

>>9600051
Ironically more muscle definition than you.

>> No.9600990

>>9600068

Those drawings generally look pretty cool. Turning them into realistically shaded 3D models is part of the problem. It worked pretty well in FFXIII, but not so well in previous FF games. Rikku looks great in that image. But in the game she's one more uncanny-looking pseudo-Asian with annoyingly quirky choreography.

There's no excuse for Seymour at any point, of course. Or for whoever that insufferably smug-looking weirdo is next to him.

>> No.9601009

>>9600025
Because people eat it up

>> No.9601014

>>9600862
>nu Enix games
>once

>> No.9601017

>>9600967
his ingame model looks like a burn victim wearing the same wig as mickey rourke though

>> No.9601131

>>9600746
You can blame him and I think FF already began nosediving with 7, but it's SE who hire him and similar homos

>> No.9601318
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9601318

>>9600025
wehn you see iyt

>> No.9601323

>>9600120
He literally looks like Athlean X but gay

>> No.9601447
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9601447

how did we go from this to nu-FF

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9601503

>>9600269

>> No.9601509

>>9600381
>it's not cool enough for most people
Should have made it cooler, then.

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>>9601447
Uncool (not even bad) designs like Seymour are completely cancelled out by X's 10/10 designs like Jecht and Auron

>> No.9601553

>>9600051
He was bland as fuck but so is Link from Zelda and no one bats an eye. Basch is cool, Balthier is cool, Ashe is cool, graphics were awesome. I don't care what all you boomer faggots say, FFXII was great, the fact that you didn't have to bother with repetitive random encounters like it's fucking Pokemon is literally a godsend.

>b-b-but anon they copied star warserino nooooo

And? Star Wars was cool too so taking inspiration from that is a plus. The plot is about politics and serious shit, instead of being centered around stereotypical fantasy shit just happening for the sake of happening.

>> No.9601685

>>9601447
Well for one the characters never looked like Amano's art so really it's not a stretch.

>> No.9601687

>>9600196
I won't believe your lies, Ondore.

>> No.9601712

>>9600051
>It's like there is a femboi mandate
you can leave out the "it's like"

the good thing about media is that as long as there is a record you can compare. In Japan's case we have decades of film and games at our fingertips. it's been there for a long time, nothing new under the sun

>> No.9601818

>>9601553
FFXII was pretty great, but does have glaring flaws and half-baked ideas that bring it down.

>> No.9601825
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9601825

>>9600068
I'm not gonna lie, I actually like Sora's design.

>> No.9601846

>>9600068
Nomura has both the worst and the best designs in the entire industry. He's either striking out or knocking it out of the park, nothing in between.

>> No.9601852

>>9601687
But Ondore literally never talks about what the party is doing. That's actually a key part of the narrative, that the grand epic being told is something you guys have little to no part in.

>> No.9601861

>>9600210
I meant SoP, not XV. Most people agree XV was pretty bad. SoP however everyone expected to be either shit or at best cringekino and then it came out and was actually a really fun game with good character interaction.

>> No.9601881

>>9600025
Seymour was half-guado. He wasn't human.

>> No.9601895

>>9601881
He was half human, there was an entire plot about how everyone hated him for being mixed and it was basically an allegory for racism / classism. Similar to Wakka hating Al-Bhed because of Yevon then finding out Yevon is a crock of shit

>> No.9601903

>>9601825
Why is he wearing a belt? That's a one piece outfit. What's with the middle schooler chain? Also, fucking clown shoes? Was Sora supposed to be a clown?

The character designs are one reason I haven't played KH.

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>>9601903
It's called an accessory, it serves the same purpose as the necklace. Insisting that every fantasy fashion design should be 100% utilitarian would lead to everyone looking exactly the same with zero fun allowed. The big feet are supposed to recall Disney styled cartoon characters, obviously, mirroring Donald and Goofy's classic big feet. And he's a KID, so he liked wearing bright gaudy outfits, not rusty armor or a drab milsurp jacket.

But the underlying issue is probably that you're too self conscious of your own questionable image as an adult to enjoy cartoonish aesthetics.

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9601980

>>9600051
Street rat
>>9600139
Sky Pirate

I WONDER what the reason for the designs were!

>> No.9602040

>>9600025
Same way people put up with random encounters in it till 2010

>> No.9602567

>>9601980
>street rats must have ultra feminine faces and look like home gym sissies who visit a hair salon daily
>they must also wear a micro rubber vest even shorter than Aladdin's
From retards for retards

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9602701

>>9600139
Mod in question is Vaan Reskins and yeah it's not perfect, it's just a texture change so it doesn't have the popped collar or anything, but it still looks better than without.

>> No.9603283

>>9601957
>autism the game

>> No.9603301

>>9600043
It does if you consider their character designers have their roots in squat pixel graphics. The habits you form early on are hard to break once they're not needed anymore.

>> No.9603307
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>>9603301
That doesn't change anything, Nomura always drew like that.

>> No.9603327
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9603327

How was this okay in 2001?

>> No.9603336

>>9600051
I think there is a mandate, they probably want to appeal to female gamers

>> No.9603374

>>9603307
Nomura’s chuuniness is his appeal

>> No.9603679

>>9600050
Is he related to Necron?

>> No.9603702

>>9600967
You don't know what definition means. His is relatively low. He's soft and has no vascularity. He does have some muscle tone in his arms and abs, but only as much as a normal healthy male who spends time outside would have.
If you think he looks buff you need to exercise more than once a week and touch grass.

>> No.9603742

>>9600381
What game?

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>>9601846
Nomura is godly when drawing other characters he already made or other media

>> No.9604219

>>9603327
What's wrong?
That's just a holy kiss, pretty straight relationship right there.

>> No.9604220

>>9603702
>touch grass
Just did, what's next?

>> No.9604456

>>9600025
Somehow Sony kids yaydkneat this up. Maybe they are prone to be gay. I don't know and don't really care.

>> No.9604458

>>9600025
This was groovy back in the day. In 15 years, all the games we play now will be cringe too

>> No.9604475

>>9603702
>He does have some muscle tone in his arms and abs, but only as much as a normal healthy male who spends time outside would have.
Yeah, he's a homeless kid, not a fucking bodybuilder you dunce

You gays and your obsession with the male physique

>> No.9604508

>>9604458
Pretty much this.

Anime critics Circa 2035
>Why do all these anime characters have two different colored eyes? Why are their irises all messed up? It looks stupid.
>Where are all the handsome tough men, everyone is girls? This makes no sense.

>> No.9604632
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9604632

>>9604218
I agree, I like the way he draws Link.

>> No.9604746
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>>9604632
>you will never draw a picture as amazing as this one Nomura made

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>>9601825

>> No.9605293

>>9605291
Fucking kek

>> No.9605402

>>9604746
Wait, who is the girl above Red XIII supposed to be?

>> No.9605482
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9605482

Tifa a cute

>> No.9605767
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9605767

>>9600025
What sort of texture would his hair have? Clearly it can be adjusted to some degree.

>> No.9605794 [DELETED] 

>>9604746
These are cute, would make cute plush dolls.

>> No.9605798

>>9604746
These are cute, would make great plush dolls.

>> No.9605814

>>9604458
No, no it wasn't.

>> No.9605880

>>9600068
C’mon, he’s capable of drawing more than twinks and jailbait

>> No.9605973

>>9605880
only barely desu

>> No.9606301
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9606301

>>9604218
He certainly made Kuja in Dissidia even girlier than he originally was.

>> No.9606363

>>9600025
his US voice was the biggest atrocity, I hated iit so much

i don't even know what the jp voice sounds like but if it's just as gay as the US version's, fuck that too

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>>9606301
You may be misremembering just how fucking gay he was in IX then

>> No.9606429

>>9600025
How do graphics today fly? If I want life, I go do life. If I want video worlds, I want decidedly not life.

>> No.9606436

>>9606405
Yeah, he looks like Zidane with makeup there.

>> No.9606546

>>9600385
Facial movement in games were very new then, Mr. Zoomer

>> No.9606552

>>9600210
DNF wasn't even that bad. Clearly stupid decisions, but not horrible for something that wws cobbled together and shat out

>> No.9606553

>>9600025
X is barely even Final Fantasy. Still has FF battles, but no overworld to explore? You literally have to input coordinates like you're playing minesweeper. Pshhhh. XII is the opposite, and XIII isn't even Final Fantasy at all.

>> No.9606564

>>9606553
X is one of the very best games in the franchise and you will have to seethe about it forever.

>> No.9606580
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>>9606564
Shit bait. You'd have to have Chinese bug brain syndrome to think those characters are relatable or that 300 hours of endgame grinding is an enjoyable experience.

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>>9606580
that exact rhetoric could be applied to literally any FF game, just read what your wrote and apply it to your favorite.

>> No.9606650

>>9606580
You can't fix a FFXfag, anon, they are legitimately fucked in the head from the Thunder Plains.

>> No.9606847

>>9606650
Yeah, they don't even make sense anymore. Take >>9606587 for example. No sane person honestly believes the jpop idols and dress spheres belong in ff

>> No.9606891

>>9603742
google densetsu - reverse no image search desu

>> No.9607054

>>9600025
Nomura shit is brutal
>Bouncer
>choker
>clown color clothes with baggy pants
>Bill Kaulitz hair
>girl face
No idea how straight men stomach this

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9607787

>>9607054
>No idea how straight men stomach this

>> No.9608453

>>9603742
Baten Kaitos 2.
For future reference: crop the image to one page only, else google reverse image search is useless.

>> No.9608589

>>9603374
it's also what makes him repellent to anyone who isn't a perpetually chuuni autist

>> No.9608605

>>9607054
I'm a raging faggot and I don't understand how raging faggots can stomach it either. The appeal is endemic to sweaty hambeast fujos, I'm certain of it.

>> No.9608827

>>9607054
When I was a teenager I thought it was the coolest shit ever.
I still like a lot of his designs, but I also recognize how goofy they can be at times.

>>9600051
>>9603336
This was literally the reason given for Vaan's inclusion in FFXII, Balthier was originally the MC iirc. But they added Vaan because of girls, and so younger guys would self-insert.

>> No.9610036
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>>9600025
I don't think people love it but tolerate Nomura's shitty designs
Not entirely sure why since it's not like the games have great gameplay or something

>> No.9610059

>>9600120
>Gay people never have muscles, anon

>> No.9610060

>>9606847
>jpop idols
FF started with long-haired pretty boys wearing literal lipstick

>dress spheres
literally just the job system

>> No.9610064

>>9610059
fem =/= gay, retard.

>> No.9610078

>>9600025
>>9607054
Honestly I quite like it for that. Sure it may seem silly when you're older but when you're young it leaves an impression and really well... gets your imagination going, like how much spikier could it get? And besides, its fantasy, let the designer do what he wants and if you like it you like it if you don't you don't, simple as.

>> No.9610091

>>9600025
Also, he's not fem nor gay. In fact if you look closely you'll notice he has these big bulging veins on his belly and chest, its quite masculine really. In fact in some ways he'd fit right in Fist of the North Star, he's kissed Yuna too. Imagine if he took off his gown the entire game and you really got to see such a chiseled figure the entire run, would you be calling him 'gay' and 'fem' then. No, you wouldn't.

>> No.9610103

>>9610036
I like his female designs, particularly Aerith, Lulu and Quistis.

>> No.9610183

>>9605482
Nomura's output quality dropped off a cliff after FF7. Like he hadn't "perfected" his formula yet and had to put more time & effort per design, which worked in FF7's favor

>> No.9610415

>>9604458
>>9604508
>zoomer revision take

People called seymour a fag back then and made fun of Cloud's gravity defying hair.

>> No.9610420

>>9606587
>he thinks there's post-game content in FF4 through 6

Once you get the finish there's nothing left to do so no it doesn't apply.

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>>9606564

>> No.9610608 [DELETED] 

Why are you mad 16 is back to normal non nomura designs

>> No.9610623

>>9605402
That's Nomura

Look at the bottom righ Nomura here: >>9600068

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>>9600051
Weird part to me is Vaan could've just been Reks with some story changes. You'd still get the same demographic, but he would actually have some connections to the story.

>> No.9611181

>>9610091
He’s gayer than Sephiroth and Kuja combined

>> No.9611219

I am morbidly obese and bearded because Nomura gave me severe body dysmorphia. I wanted so so bad to look like a pretty twink boy with big fluffy hair who wore cool edgey stuff but I was always ugly and stocky. Eventually it killed my esteem.

>> No.9611273

>>9601852
Litterally replay berjuba he does say there going to mt b and the stillshrine. And does communicate with vayne
Which gets the dude on the mt. killed. And gets the party captured on the leviathan

>> No.9611302

>>9600025
It's Yu-Gi-Oh hair which was popular around 2000

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>>9610183
His FFVII designs have an innocence to them, like they're dolls/action figures. Probably due to the eyes

>> No.9612376

>>9610103
Then you are part of the problem

>> No.9612432

>>9606301
He definitely looks more like an anime pretty guy in Dissidia. His face looks softer in IX..

>> No.9612447

>>9600042
>killed his own mom and turned her into a soul battery to power up a very cool looking monster he can summon at will to kill people for him
>wants to kill all living things so that everyone becomes unsent, unchanging undeads that live forever and don't suffer from physical aliments
>marries a very cute girl not to simp for her but to further his plans
He is pretty based.

>> No.9612451

>>9600051
Imagine how much better the game would be if you just deleted Penelo and Vaan and delegated Ashe's character growth to Bash or Balthier.

>> No.9612490

>>9600210
Final Fantasy XIII is easily the worst game in the franchise, and even the worst AAA game ever made.

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>>9600385
That's the bogged remaster though.

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>>9600701
Yuna's sending scene still holds up and is also great from writing and cinematography perspective.

>> No.9612521

>>9600160
My hair DOES NOT look like a chocobo butt!

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>>9605482
Yuna is cuter. And Rikku is my queen.

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>>9612541
Don't be fooled by dem Al-Bhed succubi bruddah, dey got quills on deir nipples and teef in deir vaginas.

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>>9612520
FFX is the greatest looking game ever made.

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>>9612494
Christ, how did this happen?

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You ever notice how Sephiroth has cat pupils? Always found that interesting.

>> No.9613619

>>9612520
I think Square still had LA-based CGI artists with experience working on real movies on their staff at the time. A lot of scenes in their games from that time period have fantastic composition. Parasite Eve always stands out to me because its CGI scenes are framed like a big blockbuster action movie.

>> No.9613852

>>9613619
I think the art is getting lost nowadays. Not even speaking about SE specifically, modern movies have shit cinematography, pacing, etc.

>> No.9613853 [DELETED] 

>>9613596
no but i noticed that cloud gets raped in the hot tub

>> No.9614057

>>9612447

Seymour's aeon is the coolest thing in that entire game.

>> No.9614319

>>9613852
Yeah it's a sad situation. Most of that stuff is outsourced to overseas render farms now.
I'd have to dig through my ancient magazines for the exact quote, but I remember them saying Square had hired artists who did effects work on a big list of 90s movies. Apollo 13, Jurassic Park, Waterworld, Batman, etc.

>> No.9614964

It's a tradition for FF protagonists to look like dykes

>> No.9615448
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>>9614964
How does Cloud look like a lesbian?

>> No.9616089

>>9600160
after FF12 they lost their grip on reality
I'm tired of these shitty movie games

FF9 is a video game with cutscenes and FF13 is a movie with gameplay cutscenes

>> No.9616748

>>9613853
he doesn't get raped in the hot tub, that was just taking a nice bath with the dudes, nothing gay there
it's the other room where he passes out that he gets raped in

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>>9600051
THAT'S who she reminded me of

>> No.9617349

>>9615448
>How does Cloud look like a lesbian?
That bitch is a Subaru and a sheepdog away from adopting a minority baby with her wife.
https://hairmanstyles.com/lesbian-haircuts/

>> No.9617778

FFX is overrated and a hallway simulator. I’ve been saying this for 20 years

>> No.9618667

>>9600043
>SEe's obsession with hair never makes sense.
They did it primarily to have unique looking characters that stand out. That much should be obvious to anybody including you. I'd say it worked very well. Put a huge list of modern day video game realism characters in my face, I couldn't likely tell them apart and think of what game they are from. Final Fantasy though these characters looked very unique at least at a time. Maester Seymour will always stand out because of his odd hair.

>> No.9618702

>>9600051
>>9610707
They look so gay.

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>>9617349
He looks like SSJ Gohan to me. He does look like a lesbian in the remake though

>> No.9619568

>>9618702
Dalmascan bussy hits different

>> No.9619834

>>9606847
>Still seething about What Would I Do For You
>In 2023
Spira is one giant fucking cargo cult for Zanarkand. Their prayers are a Blitzball good luck charm. They talk about a sports stadium like it's the Wailing Wall.
The entire game is basically Fallout if it was made by Japanese people for Hot Topic rejects.
If there is literally any video game any possible timeline in which it would make sense for a major religious figure to be a J-pop idol it's Final Fantasy X.

>> No.9620008

>>9604218
disagree, always hated this pic because he made link look like a
Gundam SEED reject

>>9604458
people made fun of these shit designs back in release days and onward. You also say "games we play these days" as if we're on /v/ or something.

>>9604508
also living in a dream if you think we will ever be free of shitty "cute girls doing X" animu when it's the only thing making money anymore.