Shmups

[Anonymous No.9590227]

Recommended tate shmups for newbies to the Genre

I’ve played many horizontal shooters from classic consoles but want to take the dive into cave games. So far I’ve tried donpachi and dodonpachi with great difficulty.

What got you into bullet hells/shmups?

Also stick vs controller?

[Anonymous No.9590232]

>>9590227
cotton 2 was my first, i recommend raystorm for beginners

[Anonymous No.9590237]

I played Raiden and thought it was fun

[Anonymous No.9590258]

The one that has music you like. They are all the same shit

[Anonymous No.9590270]

>>9590227
CAVEshit is trash. If you are going to play just one CAVE game, play the original DonPachi and stop there.

/vr/ approved shmups (in order of most to least approachable):
>Soldier Blade
>Gate of Thunder
>Batsugun
>In The Hunt
>1941 (play JP version)
>Super Aleste/Space Megaforce
>Daisenpuu (play JP version)
>Hishouzame
>Salamander
>Gradius 1 or 2
>Sonic Wings/Aero Fighters
>Nexzr
>19XX
>Gunbird
>Raiden Fighters Jet
>1944
>RayForce/Galactic Attack/Layer Section
>K-Tiger (JP version is harder)
>R-Type (JP version is harder)
>Strikers 1945 or 1999
>DonPachi (JP version is harder)
>Image Fight (JP version is harder)


Not sure why you're looking for specifically vertical, when there is basically nothing fundamentally different between them, just that hori focuses a bit more on environmental design/hazards

[Anonymous No.9590309]

>>9590270
>50% shit games
>50% "do I fit in" games

[Anonymous No.9590314]

>>9590309
Post clears shitter

[Anonymous No.9590340]

>>9590227
Give Espgaluda a try.

[Anonymous No.9590349]

>>9590227
try dodonpachi daioujou. it's kino. it's got top tier waifus and huge explosions. It's hard as balls, but just keep adding coins.

[Anonymous No.9590351]

>>9590340
imagine unironically playing nonsensical dogshit like this lmao.

[Anonymous No.9590353]

>>9590227
play zeroranger, then go play all the retro shmups it references.

[Anonymous No.9590440]

>>9590227
Donpachi, Dodonpachi, Gunbird 1&2 and Batrider is what got me into the genre.

[Anonymous No.9590467]

Someone here said Tiger-Heli was a good beginner shmup, but I watched a Shmup Junkie video where he said it was too hard for beginners. What do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.9590473]

>>9590467
Tiger-Heli is probably the best beginner shmup there is as it forces you to learn all of the basics to complete it without dying, and also has very forgiving checkpoints. Ideally, you want to practice sections without dying though, as you can just brute-force through sections with dying.

It's just a very basic game that beginners would probably find too primitive/boring, and the main flaw is just that the terrain and enemies are so limited that it's hard to actually know/memorize which section you're at because it all flows together.

[Anonymous No.9590475]

Just say shoot em up.
You disgraceful fuckers.
It's already an abbreviation.

[Anonymous No.9590486]

>>9590475
Just say "shooter" or "shooting game".

[Anonymous No.9590494]

>>9590351
Makes sense to me. Maybe get your brain checked.

[Anonymous No.9590496]

>>9590227
Go play Mars Matrix.

[Anonymous No.9590502]

>>9590467

It's a good beginner shooter in general, even if somewhat rough around the edges. I think it's a nice middle ground between arcade Galaga/Xevious style games and more proper shmups that came later on

[Anonymous No.9590512]

>>9590227
>Recommended tate shmups for newbies to the Genre
Gradius II Famicom version. I really, really hated Gradius ever since I played the first game for the NES. I didn't really know how do get good at the game after losing my power-ups time and time again, and with not enough power-up capsules to recover, I gave up. Years later I played Famicom version of the second game and I finally started to catch on, eventually mastering this particular game and taking on the others in the series.

>>9590258
>The one that has music you like. They are all the same shit
You need some practice.

[Anonymous No.9590514]

>>9590227
>tate shmups
99% of shmups is tate, poser.

>>9590496
Haha

[Anonymous No.9590520]

>>9590514
That wasn't a joke, a suggestion or even a warning. It was a threat.

[Anonymous No.9590529]

>>9590270
I have a 3:4 vertical setup

[Anonymous No.9590536]

>>9590514
1. I stated I was new to the genre

2. Most nes, snes, genesis, neo geo, ect shooters I’ve played default to 4:3 horizontal even if the playfield is vertical for some. Look at the touhou games. Vertical field of play but displays horizontally

[Anonymous No.9590562]

>>9590494
It makes sense and is fucking stupid overly convoluted garbage, yes. CAVE chooses retarded mechanics to add to their games like modern women choose mental disorders to have.

[Anonymous No.9590609]

What was the first shmup you ever beat without abusing continues?

[Anonymous No.9590616]

>>9590609
Gradius lol

[Anonymous No.9590621]

the one that made me love the genre is life force for nes

[Anonymous No.9590624]

>>9590270
most of the stuff on the CAVE 68000 hardware is good, it's the PGM games and later that suck.

[Anonymous No.9590632]

>>9590624
Daioujou and Ketsui are better than any of the crapcom or PCE crap on scrub-kun's list lmao.

[Anonymous No.9590637]

>>9590227
Deep down they're all pretty much the same and everyone always recommends the same old ones so here's my list with a few twists and games that don't immediately come to mind when we think of shmups:
Parodius: Non-Sense Fantasy (SNES)
Psyvariar 2: The Will to Fabricate (Xbox)
DoDonPachi DaiOuJou (PS2/Xbox)
Space Invaders (GBC)
Radiant Silvergun (Saturn)
ESP Ra. De. (PS2)
Soukyugurentai (Saturn)
Twinkle Star Sprites (Neo Geo)
Cho Aniki Bakuretsu Ranto-hen (SNES)
Warning Forever (Windows)
Bangai-O (Dreamcast)
Panzer Dragoon Saga (Saturn)
Panzer Dragoon Orta (Xbox)
Pocky & Rocky (SNES)
Iridion II (GBA)
Sin & Punishment (N64)
Lords of Thunder (TurboGrafx)
Sengoku Ace (Arcade/PS2)
Rez (PS2)
Touhou Koumakyou: the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil (Windows)
Sonic Wings 3 (Neo Geo)

Just remember if the cover art has a cute anime girl then it's worth playing.

>>9590475
I just call them STGs now.

[Anonymous No.9590639]

>>9590227
Top 10 shmup developers, if your list differs from this you are simply WRONG.

Konami
Toaplan (pre-Ikeda, who ruined the shmup genre with tranmaku garbage)
Namco
IREM
Taito
Raizing
Seibu
Psikyo
NMK
Tecnosoft

[Anonymous No.9590652]

>>9590639
didn't ikeda work on batsugun?

[Anonymous No.9590663]

>>9590652
Yes, and V-V (the first ever case of a SHMUP using smaller hitboxes in order to make dodging easier for casual plebs).

[Anonymous No.9590832]

I like all shooting games. I don't know why everyone is so decisive about liking one kind or the other, they are all fun.

[Anonymous No.9590834]

>>9590340
One of the few worthwhile ones mentioned here. Fun mechanics, maybe the best slowdowns in the genre and actually unique OSTs
With all the hot garbage mentioned here, I also don't know if I should be sad or happy that Ikaruga isn't mentioned which actually has core mechanics that make it fun and distinct from everything else

[Anonymous No.9590912]

>>9590834
>>9589942

[Anonymous No.9591724]

>>9590227
Raiden II (or DX if you need babby mode) perfected the TATE shmup. Go play it.

[Anonymous No.9591736]

>>9591724
Raiden 2 is just a worse Raiden 1 which in itself is just an inferior K-Tiger clone.

[Anonymous No.9591817]

Some of my favs

Mega Drive:
Twinkle Tale
Gaiares
Arrow Flash
Panorama Cotton

PC Engine:
Burning Angel
Magical Chase
Coryoon

[Chud Anon No.9591830]

Redpill me on UN Squadron

[Anonymous No.9591843]

>>9591736
>Raiden 2 is just a harder Raiden 1 which in itself is a superior K-Tiger clone.
fixed.
Raiden 2 is more action packed than 1 and that's a good thing. Yes it's harder so it will filter even good players

[Anonymous No.9591845]

>>9591830
Overrated game with ridiculous amount of slowdown.

[Anonymous No.9591860]

>>9591843
I wish it didn't hit you so hard with Gradius syndrome. Having to gamble to get your powerups back is such a lame way to make the game more difficult than it already is.

[Anonymous No.9591863]

>>9591860
play the US versions which has respawning instead of checkpoints

[Anonymous No.9592069]

>>9591860
yes it's a big boy game, learning checkpoints is a skill and so is picking up powerups again

[Anonymous No.9592071]

>Finally beat Radiant Silvergun saturn mode
>Took 20 credits
>On normal
>Boss patterns and are all completely different on very hard

Fuck. Guys I'm not sure a 1cc is in the cards for me on this one

[Anonymous No.9592074]

For me? It's the NES version of Dragon Spirit

[Anonymous No.9592079]

>>9591863
>>9592069
Raiden II does not have checkpoints.

[Anonymous No.9592081]

>>9590227
its totally compatible with the GC controller too
this collection have probably one of the bests STG titles of the century

[Anonymous No.9592089]

>>9592079
>Raiden II does not have checkpoints.
Raiden 2 (Jap version) has checkpoints.
The US version doesn't, too hard for westerns

[Anonymous No.9592094]

life force (nes)
abadox (nes)

good starter shmups

[Anonymous No.9592129]

>>9592089
Damn you're retarded. Try actually playing these games before commenting on them. Only Raiden 1 JP has checkpoints, Raiden 2 is instant respawn.

[Anonymous No.9592269]

>>9590467
Hishouzame for dadshit
Dodonpachi for bullet hell (first loop really isn't that hard and you can bomb most of the last 2 stages if you get cornered, and it has a really good difficulty curve unlike stuff like Espgaluda)

[Anonymous No.9592279]

>>9592129
Not him but ackchually Raiden 2 JP has checkpoints if you play on Player 2 side. P2 side isn't interesting to pick because of that, the only advantage is that you get cluster bombs instead of the red ones.

[Anonymous No.9592284]

>>9592129
>Damn you're retarded. Try actually playing these ...
kek
I actually play Raiden 2 (Player 2 side) for the added challenge and checkpoint hell

>>9592279
yes the red ship is better (Red starts with the inferior bomb type but gets more bombs due to the item sequencing)

[Anonymous No.9592475]

>>9592129
lol

[Anonymous No.9592503]

based raiden chads

[Anonymous No.9592505]

>>9592094
>abadox (nes)
>good starter shmup
it's really punishing if you die since you powerdown recovery is really hard

[Anonymous No.9592992]

>>9590227
play one cave game pretty much played them all.
>stick vs controller
both.
if you are having to ask for recommendation for a shooter, you should just stick to jrpgs.

[Anonymous No.9593089]

>>9590349
New port of it coming out soon too, by M2 who are usually solid. It's a shame they never release anything on PC

[Anonymous No.9593215]

Are shmups underappreciated /vr/?

[Anonymous No.9593238]

For a beginner SNES Parodius was a game I managed to finish as a kid.

ESP Rade is my choice. JP version is a bit easier on default settings, even a beginner can do 3 stages

[Anonymous No.9593260]

>>9593215
The way social media is, i'd argue literally everything is underappreciated.
Let people like what they like. Shmups are a niche and that's fine, but fuck people who think it's not a valid game genre to like.

[Anonymous No.9593385]

>>9590227
Sonic Wings 3 and Strikers 1945.
I think they're fairly easy as well.

[Anonymous No.9593568]

>>9593385
>Sonic Wings 3
Boring, rather play some Rapid Hero.

[Anonymous No.9593960]

These are all good.

[Anonymous No.9593981]

>>9590496
Stop that.

[Anonymous No.9593983]

>>9593960
>Gradius V
>R-Type Final
What do you think of the previous games?

[Anonymous No.9593985]

>>9593981
Play it.

[Anonymous No.9594041]

>>9593985
It's not on my sd card. Yet.

[Anonymous No.9594056]

>>9590609
Aero Fighters for the Genesis.

[Anonymous No.9594218]

i feel so unsatisfied when i pick spread fire ships yet they're the only ones i'm good with

[Anonymous No.9594457]

>>9593983

I like Gradius III and IV, but I feel like V is more fun to replay, and more fair. I like the concept of Gradius games, the music, lots of powerups and the levels, but they are so damn brutal and unfair sometimes, to the point where you might as well quit after dying once.

With the R-Type games I've only played the arcade, Super R-Type and R-Type III. Three is my favorite of those, and Final just edged it out for my top 9. I love the force system and power-ups in that game, but after the first level the game becomes incredibly hard.

[Anonymous No.9594616]

Is there any gameplay difference between Gradius (arcade) and Nemesis? Or between Gradius II and Vulcan Venture?

[Anonymous No.9594901]

Kingdom Grand Prix

[Anonymous No.9594928]

For me, I just got 1CC Abadox (nes). This game is great, fun level design similar to Salamander, and you should play it, awesome music and visuals so replaying doesnt get old

[Anonymous No.9594957]

>>9594457
>I like Gradius III and IV, but I feel like V is more fun to replay, and more fair.
To be fair, III & IV are widely regarded as the hardest games lol (I'm assuming you're emulating the PS2 port) I think my top 3 for Gradius would be II, Gaiden and V.
>With the R-Type games I've only played the arcade, Super R-Type and R-Type III
Nice. III is a favorite of mine too but 1 will always have the nostalgia factor since it was one of my first STGs. Delta is also really good. It's fast paced by R-Type standards and it rewards you quite nicely for using your force pod as a battering ram.

[Anonymous No.9594975]

I would recommend Exceed 3rd: Jade Penetrate Black Package, but it just got unlisted from Steam January 6th. Normal mode is pretty beginner friendly, and easy is well, easy. It's got mild fanservice too, if you're into that. (I am)

The soundtrack is dope. It's on Bandcamp if you want to check it out.

[Anonymous No.9595038]

>>9594928
>Critics have generally looked at Abadox favorably for its design, but negatively for its high level of difficulty

[Anonymous No.9595119]

>>9594616
>Gradius (arcade) and Nemesis?
Nemesis has harder enemies (more aggressive), but it's easy to power-up after death since everything will drop power-up capsules for a while

[Anonymous No.9595175]

>>9595038
the last stage is hard and if u die you wont be recovering

[Anonymous No.9595486]

>>9594928
based vrocs

[Anonymous No.9595495]

What is the best weapon loadout?

[Anonymous No.9595562]

>>9595486
indeed

[Anonymous No.9595586]

>>9594957
>To be fair, III & IV are widely regarded as the hardest games lol (I'm assuming you're emulating the PS2 port) I think my top 3 for Gradius would be II, Gaiden and V.
V is harder than IV imo

[Anonymous No.9595613]

>>9590475
shmups is a reddit fag word

[Anonymous No.9595632]

>>9595613
what about STG is that a reddit fag word too?

[Anonymous No.9595641]

Eastern Scarlet Devil Lands
Eastern Ghostly Dream
Eastern Eternal Night Vignette
Eastern Flower Reflecting Mound
Eastern Wind God Chronicles
Eastern Earth Spirit Palace
Eastern Star Lotus Ship
Eastern Divine Spirit Mausoleum
Eastern Shining Needle Castle
Eastern Ultramarine Orb Tale
Eastern Heavenly Jade Dipper
Eastern Oni-Shaped Beast
Eastern Rainbow Dragon Cave
Eastern Word Flower Album
Great Fairy Wars ~ Eastern Three Moon Fairies
Secret Sealing Nightmare Diary ~ Violet Detector

[Anonymous No.9595814]

>>9590227
All depend on what you are looking for.

Any shmup can be your first it really, depend on the dedication you want to poor on it, even more true when nowdays you have training tools, adjustable auto fire,rewind and save states which make the training way more efficient and short.

Also be aware that some games can be average to hard to 1CC but very hard to insane 2ALL ( 2nd Loop), some Psikyo games are like this for example.

Now for the recommendation I try to give you some easily emulated or game available on steam or ACA :
Relatively easy.
Dariusburst AC : depend on the route but it mostly easy/mild hard at best for an 1CC)
Akai Katana got released last month it's a mild difficulty cave with a lot of thing to learn from.
Area 88 is fun arcade game you may learn movement and placement, learning curve is kind of flat but expect a small pick at level 5. give the snes/sfc version a try too.

Normal
R-type leo is kind of the same you may also learn some stuff about force and option (harder at level 4).
Fighting Hawk is close to Area 88 but as a verti. not too hard not too easy
Metal Black is between the 2 but you won't learn that much from as the game is weird AF.
some others weird shmup ; fun but wont learn much from them.
Xexex mild 1CC on the japanese version. (2all is another story)
X-Multiply is slightly harder to 1CC but at least you won't have a burnout dealing with it 2ALL even if it's hard.

Mild hard
Game Tengoku is cute nice and fun and you will learn tons of shit and tricks, but 2ALL is on another story, way too hard for it own good.
Dragon Spirit is old but it one of my favorite games ever, it come from a time where you needed a separate button to shoot sol enemies. Maybe a little bit long and learning curve can be a bitch.
Outzone depend on the version and weapon management can be a nice game to pick.

Also most Psikyo and Cave games 1CC can be put here.

[Anonymous No.9595867]

>>9595495
Everything on the second row.

[Anonymous No.9595916]

>>9594928
Natsume wanted to be Konami so bad, it's pretty funny. They made some good games though.

[Anonymous No.9595934]

>>9595586
>no checkpoints + gives you your options back upon death, Salamander 2-style
>V's only hard stage is the penultimate one, meanwhile IV hits you like a brick by level 3
>options that let you aim in any direction for easier stages, or freeze them in place for easier point-blanking of bosses
>small 1x1-pixel hitboxes
>doubles the basic bullet limit, making it much easier to kill enemies when you have more bullets to fire

Nah, IV is the second hardest Gradius after III. V is a casual walk in the park by comparison.

[Anonymous No.9596282]

Top 5 Genesis/Mega Drive schmups please and thanks

[Anonymous No.9596310]

>>9595641
Based

[Anonymous No.9596343]

>>9596282
Thunder Force IV
Eliminate Down
Bio-Hazard Battle
Musha Aleste
Granada

[Anonymous No.9596349]

>>9596282
Above list is pretty good but I'd swap MUSHA with Silpheed if we're counting Sega CD.
https://youtu.be/GFia6OptDQ0?t=1443

[Anonymous No.9596350]

>>9590227
I 2-ALL'd ZeroRanger a couple of days ago. Finding a new SHMUP to sink my teeth into turned way harder than expected. PLS recommend me good shit which is not bullet hell/danmaku/cave style which was made for PC home consoles first, and not arcades. I don't like the arcade made STGs. tried probably 2 dozen and bounced off of em all.

[Anonymous No.9596361]

>>9596350
one of zeroranger's main influences was cho ren sha 68k which is a free one

it kinda looks like shit on modern computers though because like all old japanese games, it's locked at some low resolution and you have to work around that

[Anonymous No.9596363]

>>9594457
The R-Type play order is (imo):
Super R-Type (with slowdown removal patches)
R-Type Leo (can skip or play after III)
R-Type III: The Third Lightning
R-Type Delta

[Anonymous No.9596372]

>>9596361
It's on my list already, I wanted to play the 1.00 68k version but couldn't find a download for it.

[Anonymous No.9596548]

So what would be the longest shmup ever made?

[Anonymous No.9596638]

>>9596548
Truxton II, probably.

[Anonymous No.9596641]

>>9596548
Tyrian 2000 and Jets'n'Guns Gold

[Anonymous No.9596679]

>>9596343
>>9596349
Thank you brothers much appreciate.
Are the earlier Thunder Force worth playing? Are they redundant compared to just playing 4? I've always thought Silpheed looked sick so will definitely check that out.

[Anonymous No.9596746]

>>9596641
>Tyrian 2000
Just looked this up on youtube and that PC Longplay channel has a video up of it at 2:33:11

[Anonymous No.9596786]

>>9596746
Baby status.

Meanwhile Boredom has the Raiden 2 world records, 44 loops at 26 hours straight playtime

https://twitter.com/boredom_79/status/931272230390046720

[Anonymous No.9596801]

>>9596679
TFIII is good if you want a quick n easy 1cc with some really banging Genesis tunes. Actually, I should have included Gley Lancer on my list for that same reason.

TFII is a lot different from its sequels in that it alternates between sidescrolling and top-down free range shooting (like Asteroids) It's good once you're adjusted to it tho

[Anonymous No.9596815]

>>9596786
Right but I was just asking about shmup length is all since the genre is known to be a pick up and play short arcade style of games.

[Anonymous No.9596987]

>>9595613
"shmup" comes from an Amiga magazine from 1985 but a reddit obsessed nu-4channeler zoomer doesn't know what an Amiga is

[Anonymous No.9596994]

>>9590496
post videos of you chaining stage 4 for starters

[Anonymous No.9597103]

raiden 1 and 2

[Anonymous No.9597164]

>>9590639
Where is Tecmo, CAVE and G.Rev?

[Anonymous No.9597198]

>>9596987

Excuse me, it's Amigx these days.

[Anonymous No.9597206]

>>9597164
>Tecmo
meh, not top 10 material

>CAVE
way better when they were toaplan desu

>and G.Rev
way better when they were taito desu

[Anonymous No.9597220]

>>9597206
>CAVE
>way better when they were toaplan desu
Can't get any more contrarian than this lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shhk239SeTs

[Anonymous No.9597303]

>>9597220
yeah 90s toaplan was kind of a mess desu, they peaked in the late 80s with twin cobra, truxton and fire shark which are better than anything CAVE has ever produced.

[Anonymous No.9597315]

>>9596350
Blue Revolver

[Anonymous No.9597724]

>>9596350
Wolflame, on steam
Has online leaderboards, currently chav aka clp is in #1 spot with 12mill INSANE mode clear

[Anonymous No.9597852]

>>9597315
I want to wait for the revised version that is in dev before I try Blue Revolver.

[Anonymous No.9598864]

Played Steam Hearts the other day really enjoyed it.

You are on a mission to cure an illness that is mind controlling the rulers of your planet.

The cure is in your penis

[Anonymous No.9598972]

Philosoma if you want every stage in another perspective

>>9594901
CHICKEN IS NO NEED!

[Anonymous No.9599043]

>>9598864
>The cure is in your penis
I know what I'm playing tonight.

[Anonymous No.9599071]

>>9599043
Here is the player character arriving to "administer" the "antidote" to the princess of one kingdom

[Anonymous No.9599240]

>>9597852
It's never coming out brah

[Anonymous No.9599563]

>>9596679
They are all good, some do not like II because they don't like the free movement stages and have no sense of direction, but Thunder Force is a great series of games.

[Anonymous No.9599578]

>>9594928
What other games had a similar aesthetics to Abadox and Life Force?

[Anonymous No.9599698]

People are too concerned about getting 1CC when i actually want to finish the game first then decide later if i want to master it and get 1CC.
I played Striker 1945, Ikagura and Hellsinker so far and couldn't finish any of them let alone 1CC it, are these games not beginner friendly or what?

[Anonymous No.9599740]

>>9599698
>Ikagura
not beginner friendly at all anon

[Anonymous No.9599883]

>>9598972

[Anonymous No.9600027]

>>9599578
X-multiply. It's another good hori with similar art style

[Anonymous No.9600141]

I just finished this, the very first shmup i legitimally beat, it's fun but how is it regarded here?

[Anonymous No.9600349]

>>9600141
Super Cobra is where it's at, very good and way ahead of its time for 1981.

[Anonymous No.9600615]

>>9590486
Yeah they can be called shooter since FPS has its own genre now.

[Anonymous No.9600950]

>>9592081
I could never get into Chaos Field but God do I love Radirgy and Karous. Also is it just me or are the audio levels in this version fucked?

[Anonymous No.9601172]

>>9593215
Most definitely, these games don't get the respect they deserve. Referring to pre-bullet hell games

[Anonymous No.9601364]

Cybattler is a multi directional shmup with one stick, a melee attack and checkpoint continues.

[Anonymous No.9601469]

>>9590494
Maybe to a STUPID CRACKHEAD FROM REDDIT! Haha owned.

[Anonymous No.9601510]

what are some lesser played shmups that are ripe for SCORING?

[Anonymous No.9601981]

>>9599883
>less gameplay than Asura's Wrath

[Anonymous No.9602484]

>>9601510
Sapphire on PCE has a pretty fun scoring system.

[Anonymous No.9602532]

>>9590351
lol this nerd got so flustered he actually reported me. Freaking narc better hope I don't come across you cause you're in for the wedgie of your life DORK!

[Anonymous No.9602579]

What games does CotM2 refer to in the shmup level? I thinked it Konami Gradius, but its horizontal. I like 20 types of powerups
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sUCsXMfgvs

[Anonymous No.9603236]

>>9599698
I agree ppl are too concerned with 1cc when they should be engaging with shmup scoring as well

[Anonymous No.9603304]

>>9603236
again, I rather finish a game first before deciding if I want to waste my time with scoring when I may not even like the game in the first place.

[Anonymous No.9603510]

>>9603304
Obviously you have to play a game to see if you like it. And with shmups simply seeing the end is trivial with credit feeding and save states....

[Anonymous No.9604650]

>>9590227
>stick vs controller?
Keyboard d-pad if not possible

[Anonymous No.9604660]

>>9590227
>What got you into shmups?
I played Deathsmiles as my first shmup game because of the girls, I've been hooked in the genre since then.

[Anonymous No.9605031]

Were shmups appreciated during the retro years? I was alive during the 90's but I can't recall if people actually liked them or not. I was too young maybe. I do know that at least arcades had them and also fighting games.

[Anonymous No.9605083]

>>9605031
I'd believe stuff like pic related pretty much speaks for itself, at least from a western perspective.

[Anonymous No.9605105]

>>9605083
First time ever seeing this game kek. I'm sure at least some shmups had to be appreciated though. Also like I said I do remember them at some places such as arcades or those play places for kids, theaters, even restaurants. In fact my local theater has a few arcade machines and iirc one of them was a shmup.

[Anonymous No.9605163]

>>9590227
Gun Nac, and the guardian legend are my favorite on NES

[Anonymous No.9605304]

>>9605031
I enjoyed playing them when I was in the arcades back in the 90s. Playing UN Squadron at local pizza joint was fun as it was only a half mile down the road, and quarter plays compared to a lot of 50 cent plays in our local arcade

[Anonymous No.9605312]

>>9605163
based tastes. Guardian Legend is my number 1 NES game. Compile really could make a good game.

[Anonymous No.9605364]

>>9599578
Eliminate Down and Strato Fighter maybe?

[Anonymous No.9606434]

>>9605031
2 quarters would last like 10-30 mins on fighting games (for me), while 2 quarters would last 4-6 minutes on a shmup. As a teen it didn't make economic sense and not many people played so couldn't learn from others, meanwhile guys were eager to tutor new players at fighting games and I made some good friends that way

[Anonymous No.9606530]

I've been fucking loving this game the last month or so. I can almost 2cc hard mode on arcade

[Anonymous No.9608223]

>>9605364
isn't eliminate down a meme shooter because of its price? I will look into strato fighter as I never seen that one

[Anonymous No.9608227]

>>9606530
lol, lmao babies first shooter. Look at how tiny that hit box is when you would have been killed in a proper shooter by many of those hits. might as well stick with cave games and jrpgs if you need something easy to play

[Anonymous No.9608237]

>>9608227
I nominate you for the most retarded post in all of 4chan. Congratulations!

[Anonymous No.9608243]

Override is quite good - for PCE, I'm no expert on shmups and I beat it in 2 days. Good ost. Kinda pricey though, got it for 50bucks for 2 days gameplay, I still recommend it as a beginners shmup.

Other shmups I've beaten which should be ok fo beginners: Thunder Force 3, Wonder Boy 3: Monster Lair (beaten on hardest). Zero Wing (stayed up a whole night to beat it, last few levels were pretty hard for me). GleyLancer. Battlemania. I've tried Gunhed and it's easy until last level that filters me big time. Elemental Master. Ye, i've mostly played on MD.

[Anonymous No.9608262]

>>9595495
Missile, Vertical, laser doesn't matter, R.Option, reduce, and either full barrier or mega crush

That's how I got my first 1cc anyway, With vertical and missile, plus rotating options you basically annihilate everything in front, above and below you without having even think. Reduce seems like the best shield by far as not only does it reduce your hitbox, and still acts as a shield and absorbs multiple hits

[Anonymous No.9608271]

>>9608237
He's right though.

[Anonymous No.9608292]

I saw a horizontal shmup in an arcade cabinet a long time ago, must have been mid/late 90s. The attract mode showed a "wall of guns" type boss and one of the weapons it had shot diagonal laser bolts that had a candy cane-like spiral pattern. I can't really remember anything else for sure. Anyone knows what game I'm thinking about?

I started thinking about it yesterday and checked through videos of dozens of games from around that era and before, but didn't find it.

[Anonymous No.9608295]

Been playing Kingdom Grand Prix for arcade, is a sequel to Sorcer Striker which is also solid. This one has some racing mechanics

[Anonymous No.9608350]

>>9608223
I don't know how much it costs but I like Eliminate Down more than Thunder Force IV, Gradius II or R-Type II for example.

[Anonymous No.9608745]

>>9590351
Reading that makes more sense than your average fighting game lingo that requires hours and hours to understand.

Fuck we were playing footsies and he Korean back dashed into a ball tickler uppercut followed by an ass licker combo

[Anonymous No.9609192]

Toaplan's Slap Fight is underrated.

[Anonymous No.9609941]

>>9590227
console gamers never got to experience the greatest shmup of the 90's

[Anonymous No.9610172]

>>9608295
Why were Raizing so much better at pulling off gimmicks in their games than Trashure?

[Anonymous No.9610263]

>>9591830
>JP name is 'Area 88'
>Actually a licensed game
>Has a spiritual successor in 'U.S. Navy', also known as 'Carrier Air Wing' outside of Japan

Pic unrelated, if you want simple score attack here's something to try on NES.

[Anonymous No.9610321]

>>9590227
Are there any good Shmups for the PS1, Dreamcast, or Xbox you guys recommend?

[Anonymous No.9610348]

>>9610321
Read the thread, anon-kun.

[Anonymous No.9611390]

>>9590227
>Recommended tate shmups for newbies to the Genre
Giga Wing, Mars Matrix, Dangun Feveron, Raiden DX

>What got you into bullet hells/shmups?
Shmups? Played R-Type and Space Invaders on my Game Boy as a lad. Bullet-hells? Espgaluda back in 2004, and it's still my favorite bullet-hell to this day. Runners-up are Psyvariar 2 and Ketsui.

>Also stick vs controller?
Stick. Would recommend Hori's Hayabusa lever.

[Anonymous No.9611396]

>>9610321
PS1: Gradius Gaiden, Einhander, R-Type Delta
Dreamcast: Bangai-O, Mars Matrix, Psyvariar 2
Xbox: You do mean the 360, right? Because there's a plethora on that thing.

[Anonymous No.9612191]

Mushihimesama Futari is the only shmup you need. It has 3 difficulty levels. Lots of fun. Great graphics and music.

[Anonymous No.9612250]

[Anonymous No.9612679]

>>9612250
tomboy...

[Anonymous No.9612693]

>>9612679
but in the sequel she grew up well...

[Anonymous No.9612707]

>>9612693

[Anonymous No.9612892]

What's a good shmup with fast bullets (not slow ass danmaku shit)

[Anonymous No.9612904]

>>9611396
I mean the original Xbox.

[Anonymous No.9612910]

>>9612693
>>9612707
Mamma mia

[Anonymous No.9613120]

>>9612892
Raiden, Gun Bird, Psikyo shmups

[Anonymous No.9613156]

>>9612892
Aero Fighters 2

[Anonymous No.9613178]

>>9612892
Dangun Feveron
Dodonpachi Daioujou

[Anonymous No.9613237]

>>9612191
>It has 3 difficulty levels. Lots of fun. Great graphics and music.
Raiden DX did that first (and better, since the easier modes have unique scoring), doesn't need tranime to appeal to incels and looks much better than Mushi's purple vomit.

[Anonymous No.9613271]

>>9613178
>Dodonpachi Daioujou
>fast bullets
lol

[Anonymous No.9613305]

>>9613271
I wonder whose replay you ripped that from. I know you're certainly not good enough to get that far :^)

[Anonymous No.9613314]

>>9613271
That's already too fast for me.

[Anonymous No.9613408]

>>9613271
Yet you needed 4 credits to reach fifth boss at the lowest rank possible to capture this shitfest. Impressive skill Lmao

[Anonymous No.9613409]

>>9613271
would be impressive if you had a normal hit box of the ship and not a tiny point that you were worried about. cave games are shit for retards that can't dodge in normal shooters

[Anonymous No.9613416]

>>9613409
Spoken like a true clueless newfag
If you dodge that means you're shit at the game

[Anonymous No.9613440]

>>9613416
what do you play euro shmups where you can take dozens of hits before you die?

[Anonymous No.9613480]

>>9590351
>You autobomb but it uses 2 bombs if you are hit while time is slowed down
>You can slow down time
>If you overuse your slow down time ability time speeds up temporarily.
Brainlet.

[Anonymous No.9614086]

>>9613416
How to beat hibachi without dodging genius?

[Anonymous No.9614106]

>>9612707
Wow shmups look like that?!

[Anonymous No.9614621]

i still don't know why you wouldn't pick exy in DOJ

[Anonymous No.9614669]

>>9612191
Mushihimesama Futari is definitely one of CAVE's best shmups. Definitely agree on the graphics and music too. So vibrant.

[Anonymous No.9614675]

I fucking love Eschatos. Everyone needs to play Eschatos.

[Anonymous No.9614829]

>>9614675
Is that retro?

[Anonymous No.9616991]

>>9596548
Maybe Toy Robo Force. There's also Sigma Star Saga where you walk around like an RPG and the random battles take you to shmup segments.

[Anonymous No.9617098]

>shmup threads here are full of schizo contrarian shitposters
>shmupsforum is full of non players
>marks shmup discord is full of trannys and a teenager with anxiety shitting up the place
>elixers discord is full of beginners and elixer who gets mad if you delete your old posts
What the fuck man. This genre is truly a lonely genre. I'll take the eagletpill.

[Anonymous No.9617248]

>>9617098
nah, you should just drop shmups (shit tier genre) and play good genres like fighters, fps, rts, stack em ups which take real skill, not just memorising and grinding runs until you win

[Anonymous No.9617303]

>>9617098
4chan and some YouTube videos is all you need to discover new games, zoomer sites are retarded by definition.

[Anonymous No.9617327]

>>9617303
You don't need 4chan at all

[Anonymous No.9617902]

>>9617098
>eagletpill
Best pill I invented. Enjoy and link us your YouTube's btw

[Anonymous No.9618126]

>>9617098
Just play whatever game you find fun.

[Anonymous No.9618183]

>>9617098
>>9618126
I wonder what he's gonna play?

[Anonymous No.9618217]

>>9590227
Twinkle Star Sprites for Neo Geo/Sega Saturn is interesting. Uses mechanics you normally see in versus puzzle games to attack one another

[Anonymous No.9618416]

>>9617098
>shmup threads here are full of schizo contrarian shitposters
This thread's been pretty civil, don't know what you're complaining about. Should everyone just agree with your shit opinions without retort?
>he's a discuck user
That's a yikes from me dawg.

[Anonymous No.9619071]

>>9618416
game?

[Anonymous No.9619176]

What other shmups give you a lot of weapons to play around with? Ive really been enjoying RS because you just have 7 different weapons at your disposable and it's fun to learn how to use all of yours tools optimally. Not retro but ZeroRanger does something similar and I like it a lot there too

[Anonymous No.9619198]

>>9619071
Sokyugurentai

[Anonymous No.9619204]

This right here is where I got good back in the day. I still think it's the one of the best retro beginner shmups there is.

[Anonymous No.9619205]

>>9618416
It's like autists decided to imitate sports fans bantering but being the retarded autists that they are they cranked it up to eleven that the threads became unbearabale.

[Anonymous No.9619212]

>>9598864
>>9599071
This was honest to god my introduction to hentai back in the day via tiny cropped screenshots in Sega Saturn Magazine.