/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9533702]

>Singlehandedly saves the Nintendo64

[Anonymous No.9533706]

most of the good games arent even from Rare. they're from Midway and id.

[Anonymous No.9533707]

>>9533706
People bought the console to play GoldenEye, lad, not Cruis'n'USA

[Anonymous No.9533742]

>>9533707
i don't care what "people" bought the console for. most people bought a PS2 to watch DVDs and play sports games. DOOM 64 and Quake 2 are better than Goldeneye.

[Anonymous No.9533750]

>>9533742
>are better than goldeneye
No they're not. Bond IP and it's split screen multiplayer make it the GOAT N64 fps.

Also be careful claiming ps2 was a DVD player. Janny may ban you.

[Anonymous No.9533754]

>>9533742
based

[Anonymous No.9533761]

>shart wars pod racer sold more copies than perfect shart
rareshovelware bros... we lost

[Anonymous No.9533767]

Banjo-Tooie was the most epic game of its generation. A grand adventure to surpass OoT and FF7.

[Anonymous No.9533769]

>>9533750
>Also be careful claiming ps2 was a DVD player. Janny may ban you.
is that a thing now?

[Anonymous No.9533776]

>>9533750
>GOAT N64 fps.
>runs at 1fps
Nah. There's plenty of other N64 multiplayer fps with actual functional gameplay. Play better games grandpa

[Anonymous No.9533778]

>>9533769
Even though I bought a DVD with my ps2 and not any of the launch games janny has banned me before for retelling this story.

[Anonymous No.9533790]

>>9533776
>muh framerate
Capcom fighters that still have scenes today suffer from slowdown and nobody is rushing out to play higher frame rate mortal kombat games over then.

[Anonymous No.9533795]

>>9533790
Yeah but Capcom made good games. Rare is garbage and so is Mortal Kombat. Your comparison is idiotic kys grandpa

[Anonymous No.9533797]

>>9533742
>most people bought a PS2 to watch DVDs
I don't think this is right, most people definitely bought it for games. The DVDs thing just made it easier for parents to cough up the money. I remember my mom asking me to connect the PS2 to her TV so she could watch movies sometimes.

[Anonymous No.9533826]

>>9533795
>Rare is garbage
Rare made the best 8 bit platformer with Battletoads and the best SNES platformer with DKC. You have zero clue what good games are as N64 has fun multiplayer games like Smash MK64 and GE.
>>9533797
I certainly did not as all the launch games sucked compared to what dreamcast had. Buying a DVD was the only thing that made sense.

[Anonymous No.9533929]

Nintendo won

[Anonymous No.9533937]

>>9533826
>Smash MK64
Those aren't rare games, so what the fuck are you blabbering on about? Goldeneye is dogshit and so is perfect dark. N64 has great games and none of them are from Rare

[Anonymous No.9533939]

>>9533702
they helped but obviously what carried it was mario and zelda

[Anonymous No.9533947]

It's kind of interesting how Rare was actually a third party dev that just developed exclusively for the N64 on a lark. Like literally "what if we were the only devs that actually made good N64 games" and they did it. They could have just as easily hacked the PS1 inside out and made the best PS1 games instead but they didn't.

[Anonymous No.9533962]

>>9533947
They were a second party dev you retarded jizzrag. Nintendo owned 49% of the company and had been investing in Rare since the 80s. Fuck off back to /v/ and never come back, you won't be missed.

[Anonymous No.9534102]

thank you based limeys

[Anonymous No.9534142]

why was Britjank better than Eurojank?

[Anonymous No.9534213]

>>9533947
>They could have just as easily hacked the PS1 inside out and made the best PS1 games instead but they didn't
feels great posting on /vr/ after hitting the crack pipe

[Anonymous No.9534225]

>literally a definitive developer in the N64's library
>nintendo let them rot and get bought out by microsoft
why did this happen?
literally a shame what happened to rareware

[Anonymous No.9534231]

>>9534225
Yeah it's a shame the stamper brothers decided to sell their company. Dumbass

[Anonymous No.9534234]

>>9534231
i thought they were looking for funding money for future games, thats why they put themselves up for sale

[Anonymous No.9534245]

>>9534234
>hey let's sell our entire stock of the company to Microsoft for funding money and not so we can cash out hundreds of millions and retire
I can't tell if you're retarded or not. I really can't

[Anonymous No.9534247]

>>9534245
anon i can assure you im not retarded
i guess you could change it and say that it was a shame the stamper brothers sold out to microsoft

[Anonymous No.9534258]

>>9533707
I bought mostly racing game though. I always thought most Rare stuff was Nintendo but worse, the thing I enjoyed the most from a rare game was Conkers's minigames

[Anonymous No.9534384]

>>9533937
>so what the fuck are you blabbering about
That you know nothing. In your mind improving frame rate is the holy grail of gaming which it isn't. Style and gameplay are just as important most of the time.

[Anonymous No.9534391]

>>9534384
>I grew up eating shit. Therefore shit is good and yummy
Ok grandpa. Tell your kids to stick your senile ass in the retirement home already

[Anonymous No.9534686]

>>9533937
Which games are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.9534697]

>>9533702
Why would mircosoft buy a company with decades of hit making just to gut and kill them? Imagine if they had stayed with nintendo?

[Anonymous No.9534705]

I honestly always preferred The World is Not Enough to Goldeneye. And Perfect Dark blew both out of the water.

[Anonymous No.9534721]

>>9534705
>>Eurocom

[Anonymous No.9534727]

>Blast Corps
>Killer Instinct Gold
>Diddy Kong Racing
>Goldeneye
>Banjo Kazooie
>Jet Force Gemini
>DK64
>Mickey's Speedway USA
>Banjo Tooie
>Perfect Dark
>Conker's Bad Fur Day
>Plus numerous Game Boy spinoffs.
Honestly I find it hard to believe that they could have kept up that volume of output even if they had stayed with Nintendo. That being said I will be forever curious how Rare would have handled other Nintendo IPs. Like What would a Rare made Metroid look like?

[Anonymous No.9534729]

>>9534697
Microsoft bought a turd without them realising it. Rare on n64 and earlier was great. 6th gen rare was shit

[Anonymous No.9534864]

>>9534391
Slowdown can add enjoyment to games as well but you wouldn't know that as you've never really played them correctly.

[Anonymous No.9534868]

>>9533795
Mortal Kombat is one of the best fighting games of all time.

[Anonymous No.9534872]

>>9533702
>>9533706
LOL.LMAO

[Anonymous No.9535037]

>>9534729
There has not been a rare game made since 2018

[Anonymous No.9535471]

>>9534868
Hilarious joke. You’re a funny guy

[Anonymous No.9536151]

>>9534727
fuck that what would a Rare F-Zero look like, we could have had something better than GX a generation ahead of it

[Anonymous No.9536186]

What could have been.

[Anonymous No.9537190]

>>9533778
>>9533769
>>9533750
Fifa 2001 to Fifa 2014

[Anonymous No.9537235]

>>9533706
You can't make accusations like that without evidence. I assume that you have some?

[Anonymous No.9538559]

>>9533937
Banjo kazooie
Diddy kong racing
Also dk64 and tooie are good to some extent.

[Anonymous No.9538563]

>>9537235
Gauntlet Legends, DOOM 64, Quake, Quake II, WipeOut 64, Robotron

[Anonymous No.9538564]

>>9536151
Rare couldn't make any game run faster than 7fps. How would they have made a game better than GX, which was developed by an actual good dev (SEGA)?

[Anonymous No.9538582]

Was the N64 even saved at all?

[Anonymous No.9538590]

>>9538564
Both DKR and Banjo ran quite well actually, hitting 30fps usually.


Problem with rare was that despite making continuous performance improvements to their engine(s), they used that instead for effects the hardware should not be doing (dynamic shadows, multiple dynamic lightsources, etc)

[Anonymous No.9538658]

>>9538590
DKR targets 20 fps with frequent dips (compare to Mario Kart 30 with frequent dips to 20 and FZero with 60 fps)
Banjo targets 30 fps but can half from just doing basic movement like double jumping.

Better than Perfect Dark 10 fps the other post was alluding to but let's not exaggerate.

[Anonymous No.9539506]

>>9538658
>racers
Oh yes the one game type that can basically cut down on everything while keeping the illusion of being more impressive then it is. FZero had to make a lot of sacrifices to keep that speed.

[Anonymous No.9539973]

>>9533702
Babjo kazooie is not that good we

[Anonymous No.9539981]

>>9534697
nintendo could smell the turd in the pool and knew that rare was already on the decline when they sold their shares. however they should have bought rare out for their IPs alone. i truly believe competent perfect dark and banjo sequels would have moved units. whether nintendo was capable of delivering that is another discussion.

[Anonymous No.9540009]

>>9538563
lol

[Anonymous No.9540039]

>>9538658
Mario Kart's rendering pipeline is all fucked up according to the decomp devs. Mario Kart shouldn't even be hitting as low numbers as it has when all the drivers are billboards, but somehow it manages to perform worse than DKR when under the same conditions.