/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9531724]

What controllers do you use for retro emulation? For the last few years I've used one of these, it just died on me completely. As I understand it from lurking here, there doesn't seem to be any good consensus at all on which gamepads are good or bad, but I'm curious as to what you guys use and your thoughts, and specifically curious about what you think are the best for retro wired gamepads

[Anonymous No.9531738]

right now I use a PS5 controller

[Anonymous No.9531739]

I just use a ps5 controller, feels good and gets the job done.

[Anonymous No.9531743]

>>9531724
Enter.

[Anonymous No.9531818]

Currently I use an 8BitDo SN30 Pro for most games, and I have an old Logitech gamepad with 6 face buttons in the cupboard in case I feel like emulating Genesis games.

[Anonymous No.9531838]

For non-Sega stuff. I use a Retro-bit USB Saturn pad for that.

[Anonymous No.9531869]

>>9531724
Qanba RAF 4.

[Anonymous No.9531893]

>>9531724
>What controllers do you use
The ones that work best for the games I play. Simple as.
>there doesn't seem to be any good consensus at all on which gamepads are good or bad
Sure there is. All game pads are bad for emulating SM64, etc. See above.

[Anonymous No.9531919]

>>9531724
PS5 controller.
Has the superior Sony d-pad and the face buttons still feel good.

[Anonymous No.9531947]

>>9531724
I don't emulate (anymore), but back when I was an emufag I used one of the Pokken controllers. The D-pad is fucking amazing and perfect for retro games. For anything 3D I used a PS4 controller.

[Anonymous No.9531962]

I sit at my couch when I'm playing so for me being able to use the PS5 touchpad as a mouse is convenient for navigation. The only problem I have with the controller is that the batteries seem to die if I don't turn it off when i power down the computer. There's probably a firmware update to fix it but I don't have a PS5 to hook it up to. I know the Switch controllers can update when you pair them to the system

[Anonymous No.9531994]

>>9531724
DualSense controller wired

[Anonymous No.9532000]

>>9531743
I dunno, I just bought one of these a few weeks ago partially on this board's advice, and personally I am not crazy about that d-pad. Both the placement of it and the stiffness or "chunkiness" (for lack of a better word) throws me off every time I play a retro game. The analogs are great and it isn't a bad controller by any stretch, but I would recommend someone try these out for a bit if possible before purchasing.

[Anonymous No.9532004]

>>9532000
I love it, I use it for everything on my Mister that isn't arcade and all PS2+ stuff on my PC when emulating those. Absolutely no complaints and has a better DPAD than a PS4 and PS5 controller imo. I bought a dual sense over the summer and returned it because it was uncomfortable and felt like shit for button presses.

[Anonymous No.9532009]

>>9532004
Nice, it might be a me thing honestly. I might like it more once I get used to it a bit more. I don't think the controller is bad or poorly designed or anything. I was mainly using an Xbox 360 controller previously (when I needed analogs) just because it was convenient and I already owned one but the d-pads on those things are truly asssss.

[Anonymous No.9532045]

I still use the DS2 for just about anything.
The control sticks are god tier, and I prefer the digital shoulder buttons over the god-awful triggers of the DS3.

[Anonymous No.9532049]

What happened to buffalo?
their snes reproduction usb pads were pretty good and reasonably priced.
Using a hyperkyn sega pad atm, its alright, seems a bit lower quality though.
Might bite the bullet and diy an arcade stick next year once the hyperkyn dies.

[Anonymous No.9532052]

I use native controllers with raphnet adaptors. Shit's perfect

Only exception is the M30 that I use for sega games as it's by far my favorite Saturn styled controller

[Anonymous No.9532120]

>>9532049
they were okay, but the dpads always stuck, i have 3 of them

[Anonymous No.9532782]

>>9532049
>What happened to buffalo?
People stopped falling for the meme so they stopped making it

[Anonymous No.9532786]

I use an arcade stick.

[Anonymous No.9532792]

>>9531743
Decent controller for modern stuff but I don't like it for /vr/. The dpad is good but badly located, and the bumpers and triggers are awkward if you try to use them like shoulder buttons.

[Anonymous No.9532793]

Anything with low latency

https://rpubs.com/misteraddons/inputlatency

[Anonymous No.9532814]

>>9531724
On my computer a stickless Playstation1 controller. On my Wii a white Classic and a gold Classic Pro.

[Anonymous No.9532818]

>>9531724
Retrobit Saturn USB controller for Sega Saturn and PC Engine
A controller I repurposed from my PS Classic for PS1
I don't emulate anything else.

[Anonymous No.9532942]

>>9531724
I like the saturn controller so if i was playing games on pc id probs get one of these, they do a usb version too but theyre more expensive

[Anonymous No.9532948]

>>9532052
>M30
thats not saturn style is megadrive style

[Anonymous No.9532953]

:)

[Anonymous No.9532981]

>>9531724
DualShock 3 for PlayStation titles, and then the corresponding Nintendo controller for each console since I have each of the NSO ones. I don't really emulate anything else because I have a huge bias towards PlayStation games. I don't do it on purpose.

>>9532045
I should really get an adapter for that. I hate internal batteries and trying to care for them.

[Anonymous No.9532987]

Been running the following combo for years:
>anything before twin sticks
original playstation controller
>anything after twin sticks
Wii U Pro Controller
>beat em ups, fighting, and shmups
8bitdo arcade stick

my wii u pro finally got a shitty angle on the stick (bottom right) and i know i'll have to pull it apart to fix it, but i'm scared i'll fuck it up with my shaky hands like a retard. replacements cost twice as much as i paid for it so i don't want to buy a new one (i bought it when best buy was putting wii u shit on clearance). i hope it's just something simple like needing cleaning under that contact.

[Anonymous No.9533043]

>>9531724
PS4/5/Xbone controller:
>Easiest to get
>Enough buttons for any retro system
>Just werks on modern games if you play those, too
>A little awkward for 6 button
Fighting Commanders:
>Does 6 button and still has shoulder buttons
>Newer ones have analog sticks and buttons for L3/R3 so they're also capable of halfway decent N64 use
>Reliability issues
Buying unique controllers
>More authentic experience, playing games how they were meant to
>Much more expensive. Estimating how much I've spent on controllers, I've probably spent $100 on SNES controllers alone. And I'm not totally satisfied with any of them. This isn't to mention all of the other controllers I've bought, which goes into the $300-400 range. It's kind of a lot considering emulation is supposed to save money, but overall it is still cheaper than buying multiple systems and games and controllers.

[Anonymous No.9533054]

>>9532049
they're like a PC hardware company now. idk I have their FC and SFC pads and I think they were a huge meme. The FC Dpad was always too loose, otherwise fine. The SFC Dpad had this hollow feeling and was infamous for letting you press the whole thing in at the center. Sucks if you slide your thumb across the Dpad instead of lifting your thumb off. Buttons also had pretty far travel. I think between buffalo and 8bitdo I'd get an 8bitdoSF30 Pro, the one without the handles. The one with the handles has a fucked Gyroscope. I also got a Club Nintendo SFC controller and everything feels a little too mushy, every button, the entire Dpad. I'm trying to break it in since it was NIB but I'm worried that it's just like this.

[Anonymous No.9533221]

>>9533043
Forgot to say: Fighting Commanders don't have analog triggers

[Anonymous No.9533276]

>>9531724
I use several controllers rather than one controller simply due to the fact that some games really are more intuitive on the OEM controller layout.
>Sega consoles and PC Engine
• Retro-Bit Official Sega Genesis USB Controller 8-Button Arcade Pad
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P37ZGTF
>Nintendo and PlayStation
• Logitech F310
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003VAHYQY/
• PlayStation SCPH-1080 via a Brook USB Super Converter
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H5PCYYW/

>>9531743
I only bought one because most modern games feel like you're supposed to use a controller. Mostly open world games and a few minor outliers like Killing Floor 2 becoming ridiculously easier with the head snap auto aim. There actually hasn't been any retro game this controller feels good with, but I am tempted to buy a USB to PlayStation adapter since I am running out of PS2 controllers that aren't worn out and see how it feels there.

[Anonymous No.9533323]

>>9531724
I prefer the Sega Saturn controller for most games that do not require analog inputs. I got a cheap Xbox 360 force feedback wheel which has pedals but no shifter, but one day I hope to find a cheap Fanatec one that does. If possible I try to match the game with an appropriate controller with adapters, but for general use the Sega Saturn pad fits me best.

[Anonymous No.9533325]

>>9531743
The most comfy controller since the Dreamcast. Aphrodisiac for the palms

[Anonymous No.9533357]

>>9532942
I also how one, its good but damn, dpad is not that good like in original model 2 controller
>>9532052
How is that PCE pad? Never had PCE and just looking at this makes me think is super stiff and unresponsive/bad diagonals

[Anonymous No.9533387]

>>9533276
Hey Anon with the Brook USB super converter, does it have the capability of emulating rumble with like a PS2 controller? Say for example I wanted to play Ape Escape with rumble?

[Anonymous No.9533401]

>>9532045
triggers are a necessary evil I think, the ds2's analog buttons just aren't very good at their intended purpose.

[Anonymous No.9533675]

>>9532045
May I know what type of adapter you use to connect to the pc? I mean, thats if you use an adapter at all, I dont know maybe youre saying you use a usb ps2like controller for pc. I have 2 logitech wireless controllers for ps2 and 2 genuine wired sony controllers, it would be nice to connect the to the pc for some games.

[Anonymous No.9533687]

>>9533675
I just bought this cheap one from the german version of Amazon. It's a dual port one with a generic brand called "Ostent"

[Anonymous No.9533805]

>>9531724
It now has a modded myoungshin fanta that is basically all mod parts

[Anonymous No.9533960]

>>9533387
It depends on what you connect this particular Brook Super Converter to.

>MiSTer
no rumble support
>PS3
Yes, rumble support

I have not tried it on a software emulator but I have Duckstation on hand so I'll report back when I get around to testing it.

[Anonymous No.9534152]

>>9533960
Thanks Anon, I wanted to actually try connecting a PS2 controller to my PC. It is such a mundane thing, but I just want to play rumble with games that support it.

[Anonymous No.9534167]

>>9531724
I use a series x/s controller mainly. For something that needs a good dpad I use my 8bitdo pro 2. But the best controller is always the original, the games are designed for them.

[Anonymous No.9534174]

>>9534152
If you're playing games that heavily rely on analog and have rumble support, I'd dare recommend just using a modern console controller which seem to have tons of support everywhere.

[Anonymous No.9534197]

I'm using a digital Playstation controller for non-analog games, 3D stuff depends but I do so little of it that I basically use an Xbox controller for non-Playstation systems and whatever DualShock version I can currently get to cooperate for Playstations.

>>9533387
It does but it's a huge pain. The only way I can get DualShock rumble to work the way it does on console is to add Duckstation to Steam so it sees it as an Xinput controller, then change the vibration bias to like 138 in the controller options to actually get it to vibrate each motor correctly. Otherwise Playstation controllers overall don't rumble right when wrapped as Xinput (even the DS4 it turns out, although Duckstation supports that natively) and support for vibration as a Dinput controller is non-existent. I think you can accomplish this in PCSX2 as well (and I think that has some DS3 mode which might work for that controller, or is that RPCS3?) by changing the vibration percentages above 100% but I don't actually use PCSX2 so I'm not going to fiddle with it.

There's an Xbox One converter and I have no idea if it handles it any better and accounts for the different vibration standards or just does the same shit as the software input wrappers.

[Anonymous No.9534413]

>>9534197
Damn Anon you went through the whole nine yards, I greatly appreciate the extensive work you did. You delivered tonight. I might actually invest in one now with this info. Even if there is steps I don't mind the work. I really love the Dual Shock 2 controller and just getting the opportunity to enjoy it with wider spectrum of games is exciting. Sincerely thanks for the sauce.

[Anonymous No.9534508]

I can't stand the glossy look they gave the controller, but other than the lack of analog triggers I find it to work just fine. Helps that the battery life is good.

[Anonymous No.9534510]

Any recommendations for N64 Emulator controllers? There seems to be a huge gap in price between different brands and I want to know if it's worth it.

[Anonymous No.9534538]

>>9531743
This

[Anonymous No.9534589]

>>9531724
saturn controller with the 8bitdo DIY kit, I replaced the battery with much higher capacity one(originally it has pathetic 180mAh one). And for anything that requires analog stick I just use my xbone controller.

[Anonymous No.9534603]

>>9534508
If you like the shitty dpad and face button placement, also i found the dpad on this and the Wii classic controllers aint that good.

I think you heard this pasta before, but playing donkey kong country on modern controllers its a misersble experience, not just lag, but stiff face buttons dont help the gameplay feel of those games.

[Anonymous No.9534618]

>>9532948
Both the second Saturn and MD controller are similar But the Saturn is bigger
The M30 feels like a mix of the two

[Anonymous No.9534621]

>>9531724
Six buttons is only good for fighting games
It’s wasted on everything else

[Anonymous No.9534627]

This bad boy is all you need.

[Anonymous No.9534632]

>>9534510
I saw some anons recommending the Retro Fighters Brawler64.

[Anonymous No.9534639]

>>9534632
>remove the ability to play FPS games well
What a shit controller

[Anonymous No.9534640]

>>9534413
Just to clarify in case, rumble will only work correctly in software with individual motor strength/ratio settings, so it's not very ideal for most PC games.

[Anonymous No.9534687]

PS1 controller I got with the Playstation Classic.

[Anonymous No.9534742]

>>9531962
All PS controllers should turn themselves off if you hold the PS button for 10 seconds or so.
As for the firmware, Sony released a standalone updater program for Windows, or you should be able to update it through Steam.

[Anonymous No.9535145]

>>9534640
Roger, I'll probably use it mostly with Duckstation as you suggested with the settings you discovered. Although I'm super curious to put the effort if there is some non retro games I can play with the Dual Shock 2.

[Anonymous No.9535256]

>>9534639
You do kind of have to make that concession for N64 since there are quite a few games that treated the C buttons like buttons instead of a directional input so trying to use a stick to use4 items in OoT feels wrong.

[Anonymous No.9536665]

I use the 8bitdo sn30, but uh, it kinda looks wrong, it's a snes controller with triggers and the dualshock 2 holders, idk how to describe it, feels good until you look at it for longer than the necessary.

[Anonymous No.9536903]

>>9534742
I'm trying to find the PS button on any of my /vr/ PS controllers. Where is it?
zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.9536939]

>>9536665
Yeah, it’s definitely a strange beast. Still fantastic to use, I love my little Frankenstein’s monster

[Anonymous No.9536957]

>>9531743
Yeah, that's what I use as well. I've been using the Microsoft controllers for awhile now. I think they basically figured out the correct form factor and do minor iterations on it each generation.

[Anonymous No.9537028]

this one with a cheapo usb adapter

[Anonymous No.9537067]

>>9536903
He was replying to a guy asking about a problem with his PS5 controller. Yes, he was wrong about using “all” there but there’s no need to be obnoxiously pedantic about it.

[Anonymous No.9537095]

RPGs and strategy games are so much more fun when played with an arcade stick or driving wheel.

[Anonymous No.9537096]

>>9533805
Like this anon I just use arcade sticks. I have a few different stick setups.

[Anonymous No.9537097]

>>9534632
I've heard the Start button doesn't function properly on these, is that true?

[Anonymous No.9537331]

>>9537067
>there’s no need to be obnoxiously stupid when underageposting
ftfyzz

[Anonymous No.9537852]

>>9534603
I think the Dpad-button placements are comfy. The one drawback (other than convention) is that the shoulder buttons end up being too high up. I have poor circulation from being medically gay and I can feel my trigger fingers chill. Never played DKC desu
>>9534627
I have a Classic Controller & Pro and I think the Pro has a much worse Dpad. I used it a lot more when it was my go-to for Virtual Console all those years ago, though, so maybe it's just worn out.

[Anonymous No.9537872]

Gamecube

[Anonymous No.9537873]

>>9531743
Only bad thing about this is that the buttons can sometimes get stuck but blowing on the buttons fixes it for a while

[Anonymous No.9538142]

>>9537097
I have the old wired version and it works no problem, the Z-triggers are awful though, like theres zero reason for them to be triggers and not normal shoulder buttons, not to mention having two Z's on back and L/R on front is awful for games like star fox 64.

[Anonymous No.9538189]

Keyboard for fighting games and anything pre-5th gen. Dualshock 4 for everything else.

[Anonymous No.9538542]

>>9537028
How's the D-Pad on that? Does it feel anything like a Sega D-Pad?

[Anonymous No.9538845]

>>9531724
DualSense on my PC and of course a Xbox One controller for Retroarch on my One X

[Anonymous No.9538859]

Dualsense for all games on Retroarch but a USB Saturn controller, really good

[Anonymous No.9538935]

Anyone tried Retroflag controllers? Some says it's better than iBuffalo one so I'm willing to give a shot.

[Anonymous No.9539323]

i use a xbox one and 360 controller for resident evil https://www.retrogames.cc/psx-games/resident-evil.html

[Anonymous No.9539326]

>>9532953
:D

[Anonymous No.9539673]

>>9531724
I got an innext SNES usb controller and the thing is a piece of shit. The buttons are already shot and it's not even that old.
I got a six button name brand Sega usb controller as a replacement and it's actually well built.

[Anonymous No.9541173]

The d pad on the new 8bitdo ultimate is pretty great, bought it for the hall sticks hoping the dead would at least be serviceable. Better than the 8bitdo Pro 2, and marginally better than the PS5 controller's, I'd say.

[Anonymous No.9541205]

>>9538935
I was coming in to say this. I son't have the snes ones, but the genesis/md ones, and they feel AMAZING the are pretty cheap to, and the work with the switch (I think it doesn't NEED to be hacked) and pretty much everything that support dxinput. The buttons and dpad feel great. Don't know what else to say, but they are my favorite go-to wired controllers for retro crap.

[Anonymous No.9541308]

Very comfy and works with just about everything.

[Anonymous No.9541378]

>>9538935
I have one. The d-pad is horrendous, all you have to do is look at it and it registers a diagonal.

[Anonymous No.9542619]

>>9541308
I liked everything about it EXCEPT the handles. They're just too wide to comfortably hold for someone with small hands like me.

[Anonymous No.9542642]

Which controller is better, PS5 or PS4? For hooking up to a PC and using it to play d-pad games especially but also modern stuff

[Anonymous No.9542710]

>>9542619
That's funny, I was going to say they're too close as someone w/ huge hands. The sticks in particular though.

>>9542642
Both decent but both have pretty shit battery life. The PS5 controller is a lot more comfortable for longer gaming sessions I've found, the dead doesn't hurt my hands due to the changes in the grip. DS4 was a bit too small for me.

[Anonymous No.9542834]

>>9542642
I prefer the DS4's overall shape but the DS5 has a better dpad, is a little larger, and the USB port is capable of actual electrical contact after a couple of uses. Also note that the first gen DS4 was wireless only.

[Anonymous No.9542845]

>>9531743
The only option more based than this is a wired USB Xbox 360 controller
Stock while you can

[Anonymous No.9542884]

>>9542710
>shit battery life
Shouldn't matter because on PC I play wired anyway. AFAIK ps5 and ps4 controllers have all the same functionality so whay really matters to me is which has the better d-pad

>>9542834
>wireless only
jesus, so if I get a DS4 there's a chance the cable only does charging and I'd need a BT adapter to use it?

>>9542845
I've had one of these for 15 years but I honestly stopped using it. Not a fan of the more spherical face buttons and the d-pad is atrocious

[Anonymous No.9542897]

>>9542884
If the dpad is the determining factor between the dualshock4 and the dualsense, get the dualsense. Dpads exactly the same and dualsense has warranty.

Always hated the slippery smooth xbox bubble buttons

[Anonymous No.9542917]

>>9542845
The dpads on these are garbage
They also break pretty often

[Anonymous No.9542985]

luv me dualshock-3s, but they're starting to show their age. There are dents in the circumference around the analogue sticks that cause a grindy feeling when using them, other dents in the plastic shell, the analogue sticks themselves are wearing out with the padding on top coming loose and/or feeling gummy, etc.

Is it worth buying those dirt cheap chink DS3 clones just to harvest the top shell and sticks? I know the hardware inside those suck ass but if I just want the outer plastic/sticks, would it be identical?

[Anonymous No.9543061]

>>9542884
If the touchpad has the light bar shining through, it does wired. If not, just wireless.

[Anonymous No.9543072]

>>9543061
along the edge of the pad?

[Anonymous No.9543106]

>>9534627
Love this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe.

[Anonymous No.9543346]

- the xbox version of the SN30 Pro for systems using that layout
- Retrobit Saturn usb controller for arcade and Megadrive /Saturn

Those two are the primary ones. The classic 8bitdo sfc30 is linked to the snes Bluetooth receiver, and when I am really bored I will dig out the Hori Fighting Stick mini.

[Anonymous No.9543504]

>>9537095
I play RPGs with a stick, started with Shining Force when I was sick and wanted to play one-handed. Also nice for dungeon crawlers because you can make a map with one hand and play the game with the other.

[Anonymous No.9543609]

>>9543504
I played most of FFI and III one handed on keyboard when my right arm was in a sling.

[Anonymous No.9543638]

>>9541308
This

[Anonymous No.9543773]

>>9543072
Yes, top edge, like this.

[Anonymous No.9543794]

>>9542884
The first gen DS4 connects wired on PC, just not on PS4.

[Anonymous No.9543875]

>>9531724
Ive been using a hori xbox style wired controller. It gets the job done, although the shoulder button placement feels bizarre after using playstation controllers for years.
I would buy the 8bitdo if I hadnt already bought this one.

[Anonymous No.9544083]

>>9543773
Hmm. I guess i have a gen 1 because i don't have that

[Anonymous No.9544154]

>>9541378
geez, is it that bad?

[Anonymous No.9544260]

Logitech f310, best controller, best dpad, good buttons, sturdy and lasts long enough and easy to replace at $24

[Anonymous No.9544267]

>>9544260
I have one and the dead zone on the analogs is fucking horrible. It's a serviceable controller at best, you can't play charge characters in any fighting games with this crap though.

[Anonymous No.9544313]

>>9544154
Just the d-pad. Everything else is actually really well built. But I just couldn't use it. Playing Bomberman was practically impossible, unless you hit the d-pad exactly on axis it would register a diagonal and send me off in the wrong direction. Tape over the contacts helped, but it still wasn't great and I never use it now.

[Anonymous No.9544325]

I got this for £11 and I immediately bought a second. Mostly because apparently they break easily, but this is my go to retro controller now. Definitely not worth the £50 they were originally going for, though.

[Anonymous No.9544430]

>>9544325
PowerA's insistence on wired controllers with micro-USB disgusts me to no end.

[Anonymous No.9544443]

>>9531724
I use a Dualshock 3 but the triggers are starting to fail. Are there any good clones out there?

[Anonymous No.9545014]

>>9542884
So these modern PS5 and Xbox controllers I can just connect to the PC USB port and they'll work like wired USB controllers?

[Anonymous No.9545020]

>>9544267
>playing precious games with analog shits
lmao wut use the dpad
I play Q in 3rd strike just fine, also great for shmups its a very accurate dpad, very top notch

analog sticks are for 3d games and racing games i guess, never even use them since i only play good games

[Anonymous No.9545021]

>>9545014
You need to map them either with Steam or DS4Windows, unless the game supports them natively.

[Anonymous No.9546647]

bump

[Anonymous No.9546669]

>>9541308
I use this regularly, when needed (like with n64) I use a saturn style controller like m30 or a fight pad. When I need to play something more involved I go for an arcade stick

[Anonymous No.9546681]

>>9542845
360 controllers were the first to have sticks wear out with less then 10 hours of playtime.

[Anonymous No.9546692]

>>9534632
I just got mine in today!
Once I stopped being so brain dead and realized the xinput button names are different from the names on the buttons themselves I got everything mapped out exactly as it should.
Nothing quite compares to having the face buttons relatively where they should be, even if I can’t imagine it being super useful for much besides n64.
This version works as a switch n64 controller too as a bonus but I don’t have NSO+

[Anonymous No.9546769]

>>9534197
So I picked up a Wingman XB2 on the iffy excuse that I am pretty short on and not especially fond of 360 controllers to use on an actual 360, and the good news is that daisy chaining the PS2>PS4 adapter worked, but the bad news is it's the same as running it through Steam in terms of rumble. Actually the PS2 adapter does a bit better than a DS3 or DS4 does but eh.

Kind of an oddity I found in the meantime is that at least in Polyphony Digital games PCSX2 outputs way heavier rumble if you're using an Xbox controller or the native DS4 support than a DS2 actually does on a PS2, I wonder if their implementation was tuned for a DS3 or something. Also I meant 136 not 138 jej. Just a deal of the default setting being 8 then splitting the 255 range and adding 128 to it, don't ask me why it's like that really I just noticed if I cranked it to 255 it seemed to circle back around to how it started and when I tried 128 it was still slightly off.

At this point I just wish someone would make a name brand DualShock form factor X-input clone like they do with SNES/Genesis/Saturn. I don't even care if the d-pad is kind of shit like most clones I just need a modern analog controller where the shoulder buttons are spaced out from the face inputs for fuck's sake.

[Anonymous No.9546781]

I like the 8bitdo M30.

I use it on the MiSTer, and I prefer it better than the OG Snes controller.

[Anonymous No.9547665]

>>9546781
2nd this. It's one of the only modern controllers out there with a decent d-pad.

I also have the SN30 pro (snes style 8bitdo controller) and it's pretty ass, so no one get that one.

[Anonymous No.9548531]

>>9531724
the GOAT

[Anonymous No.9549429]

>>9531724
Complete with custom coin-op swipe card
Haha

[Anonymous No.9549562]

I was able to get 10 wii classic controllers for $60 and was wondering what a good classic controller to snes adapter might be? I would go to ralphnet, but apparently he doesn't make any adapters besides the classic controller to usb one.

[Anonymous No.9549682]

>>9546769
And actually you know my end conclusion from this odyssey is that the vibration on all this shit is not really as inherently different as I thought but every fucking controller has different strength values (I mean I have 2 DS2s that vibrate noticeably different even, whether that's just because one is worn out) and every fucking piece of software on PC has different output values and in particular one of my test cases (Armored Core Project Phantasma in Duckstation because in Retroarch and Mednafen it has no rumble for some reason) those values are on the edge of where the light landing effect is strong enough to actually do anything on one controller and not the others. If I try an Xbox series controller and then a PS1 DualShock in GT2 in Retroarch or in MHW they're about as similar as two physically different controllers produced over two decades apart can be and not so far off of real hardware as Duckstation's default settings, if I crank the rumble strength up in DS4Windows on my DS4 it not only feels pretty similar there's actually something in MHW that it picks up the Xbox controller doesn't.

Also what confuses things even more is that even just how the controller is getting power over USB can affect how strong the rumble is. Basically as far as matching the developer's intent unless you're dealing with a brand new launch console with its packed in controller shit is wack man, and trying to subjectively match a real console in an emulator is the only kind of "right" anyone can hope for on PC, which doesn't do any good for anyone that doesn't have a real console to compare to.

Now putting aside the dozens up dozens of laps of Midfield Raceway in GT2 and Laguna Seca in Tourist Trophy I've done trying to understand this shit I should stop pissing around and play some fucking video games.

[Anonymous No.9550028]

>>9549562
usb? get it to work on pc

[Anonymous No.9550074]

>>9544260
this^

[Anonymous No.9551345]

>>9536665
>>9536939
I have it, I love it except for the absolutely shitty rumble, and the L1/R1 buttons could've been a millimeter wider.

[Anonymous No.9551945]

>>9546681
>his first n64 game wasn't mario party

[Anonymous No.9551961]

>>9531724
Retro-bit sega pads.

[Anonymous No.9551985]

My loadout:

>USB arcade stick I got in 2000, still going strong
>9pin atari style stick I play through an adapter
>9pin stick I have set for 4way play through an adapter
>retrobit sega pad

I love that arcade stick but definitely need a 4way for some games like pacman and donkey kong.

[Anonymous No.9552114]

>>9533357
I truly believe I got lucky with my M30. The dpad feels great. I even compared it to an original Genesis controller and it feels very good. I actually enjoy playing fighting games with it, although I've been using an arcade stick lately.

[Anonymous No.9552410]

>>9532953
>>9539326
XD