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Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:07:27 2022 No.9517990 [Reply] [Original]

It's almost 2023. If you can't do this yet then it's time to learn how. Every day hardware ages and not being able to solder makes you more and more like a car guy who can't change the oil in his car by himself. Your consoles and games need to be properly maintained in order to keep running long term.

This statement does not apply to poorfags in third world countries who emulate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:09:38 2022 No.9517992 Just how much of the fumes can I inhale before getting cancer?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:11:46 2022 No.9517996 >>9517992 You're supposed to do it in a well-ventilated area. Don't inhale the fumes. This is basic information.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:16:37 2022 No.9517998

I'd really like to, but what soldering iron to use as an amateur ?

I see stuff ranging from $10 Iron+ stuff set to $90 or even $300 soldering stations. If you aren't planning to open a shop but simply fix controllers, resolder charging ports in phones or solder new capacitors in broken monitors would a $50 shitty chinese soldering station be enough?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:17:42 2022 No.9518003 >>9517998 Ts100 at all price ranges

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:21:38 2022 No.9518009 >>9517990 what is soldering and why would a console need it

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:51:19 2022 No.9518058 emubros just keep on winning

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:08:01 2022 No.9518087 >>9517990 Soldering isn't hard. Soldering well is a different story. A lot of beginners are going to fuck up the first few things they try.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:33:26 2022 No.9518127 >>9517990 >emulator: play SMB, press jump button, mario jumps >real nes: play SMB, press jump button, mario jumps Same game, same fun Now throw your old hardware in a dumpster or donate it to a museum

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:48:09 2022 No.9518149 >>9518127 i cant believe i used to be a cringe softwarecuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:57:46 2022 No.9518170 >>9517992 Don't inhale fumes. Make sure you're working in a well ventilated area and what I like to do is set up a fan to blow the smoke/fumes away from me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:00:02 2022 No.9518175 >>9517990 >This statement does not apply to poorfags in third world countries who emulate. Phew! Thank you, sir!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:01:35 2022 No.9518179 >>9518149 i cant believe i used to be a cringe realhardwarefag sold all my shit during the pandemic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:03:03 2022 No.9518185 >>9517996 >>9518170 How high will I get if I inhale the fumes?

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:04:09 2022 No.9518187

>>9517990
I think op is being a jerk, but if I could frame it in a more positive light, You CAN do this!

Amazon has a kit for like 10 bucks. For another 5 bucks you can get a "learn to solder" kit from eBay or Amazon with a simple circuit board, an LED, and some resistors.

Soldering has a weird mental hurdle. You can push through it. Once I did I started kicking myself for not doing it earlier..

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:04:29 2022 No.9518189 >>9517990 My hands are too shaky

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:05:09 2022 No.9518190 >>9517998 Shitty chinko setup is just fine for learning. Once you do that you will know exactly what you need and don't need.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:08:52 2022 No.9518197 >>9517990 I have enough money to pay someone else to fix them, just like changing my cars oil.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:11:00 2022 No.9518205 >>9518127 >why go on a vacation when i can just look up pictures of the place i want to go to?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:19:39 2022 No.9518214 >>9518205 Dumbest analogy ever. Here's a proper one to understand how mentally dumb real hardwarefags are: >would rather drive to the beach that is 50 miles away than just go to a local beach that is only 5 miles away. Same sand, same water, same sun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:19:56 2022 No.9518215 >>9518205 I know you posted this trying to sound smart but it's not working. Since it's Christmas, here's a (You). Go get 'em, Champ!

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:28:40 2022 No.9518231

>>9518127
>Now throw your old hardware in a dumpster or donate it to a museum
I was raised by white people so needlessly throwing away things that still work or can easily be repaired produces unnecessary e-waste and breeds a consumerist mindset. You're probably the kind of guy who buys a new phone every year or so, one without a headphone jack at that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:31:25 2022 No.9518237 >>9518214 >local beach is infested with garbage and minorities Yes i will drive to the nicer one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:55:52 2022 No.9518269 >>9517990 To be fair I make enough money now to pay someone else to do it. I'm contributing to the economy this way

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 05:56:32 2022 No.9518517

>>9517992
Funfact: Browsing /vr/ for 30 minutes exposes you to more cancer than working 30 hours at the MD Anderson Cancer Center

>>9518197
>posted from my tesla
>that i pay someone else $300/month for changing the oil for

>>9518214
Perfect example. How's the water in Amity Island right now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 06:00:03 2022 No.9518523 >>9517990 I have a Pinecil? But have no idea what a good wick is and which solder to buy. I just want to learn do I can remove that resistor on my Dreamcast's PSU.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 06:17:14 2022 No.9518541 >>9518517 >300 dollars a month on oil changes dude what

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 06:30:04 2022 No.9518553 File: 25 KB, 149x85, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9517990 oof

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 07:16:04 2022 No.9518601 >>9517990 cars need oil? I thought they ran on gas?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 07:59:02 2022 No.9518635 >>9517996 >this is basic information Even if it is I would still prefer to pay some other poor cunt to do it for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 08:00:57 2022 No.9518638 >>9518205 Why look up the pictures? Just shut your eyes and imagine them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 08:07:56 2022 No.9518650 >>9517990 Wife and I just learned this year. Already fixed (and modded) 2 GBA SPs, a NDSL, PSP1000, and some v-pets. Very cool skill to have. We look at our electronics with a completely different lens now. Like "hey I could actually improve this"

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 08:11:13 2022 No.9518653 Flat too small and I live with my partner.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 08:26:13 2022 No.9518668 >>9518179 lmfao he really got you seething hard as fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 09:45:49 2022 No.9518751 >>9518653 I'm trans BTW if that matters

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 09:47:29 2022 No.9518752 >>9517990 My hands are too big.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 10:03:40 2022 No.9518769 File: 34 KB, 700x700, think.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9518541 So it's the price you have a problem with? Not the fact that Teslas don't need oil changes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 12:23:39 2022 No.9518897 >>9517998 I got some crappy one for like $15 at Radio Shack over a decade ago and I'm still using it, the hot part is all loose and weird but it still works well enough for my very limited purposes

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 12:42:55 2022 No.9518913 >>9517996 what if I like the smell of molten solder? Is there somethingI can get that fills the room with the same smell but is not unhealthy?

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 12:45:32 2022 No.9518915

>>9517998
shitty chinko hardware will just end up burning shit everywhere. Proper iron will be able to keep up its temperature while you work with it because it has better thermals. The difference between the two is needing 400C for half a minute vs needing 250C for 1 second.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 13:38:11 2022 No.9518992 >>9518752 That's ok kiddo. You'll grow into them. Maybe by then you'll be old enough to play with hot pointy things.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 13:42:18 2022 No.9518998

Anyone in the thread saying that they can afford to pay someone else to do it, cool?
I can think of two good reasons to do it anyways:
1. It’s a lot of fun.
2. It makes the console feel like it’s really yours. It sounds stupid, but it’s almost like you grow a bit of a bond with things you’ve worked on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 13:49:59 2022 No.9519003 >>9518650 I'm proud of you. This whole thread was worth it just for your comment.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 13:59:31 2022 No.9519009
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>>9517990
While I do emulate, it is my fear with all the stuff I kept from back then will deteriorate. The information and skills to repair CRTs are already no longer available in my area. Unfortunately, It is costly to even get started on soldering too, since I still have to get/learn a multimeter, helping hands, flux pens, solder wire, wick, etc. already setting me back hundreds. It isn't so simple to find "practice boards" as if $5 is insignificant as that is almost half of my pre-tax hourly earnings, not to mention sales tax from purchases made post-tax. The instructions for the stuff is in Chinese, which is notoriously difficult and useless language designed to keep people out and Google translate is still failing to get even instructions right. I haven't the room either as the only place with ventilation in my studio is the "kitchen" area above the sinks which is not ideal either. Even with a condition that makes it so keeping hands steady difficult, the medications needed are eating into the cost as well. Unfortunately, the time, space, and money needed is too great, and I was fooled into getting this stuff which has not been used yet and I'm willing to give it away to someone that would help fix some of my stuff instead along with whatever they charge for the work and take the loss since I did not realize how much investment is necessary.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 15:59:19 2022 No.9519150 >>9519009 I really hope this comment is a troll

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 16:11:52 2022 No.9519171 >>9519150 I can't tell if the countertop faggot is really that much of a psycho or if someone stole one of his images and is posing as an even faggier version of him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 16:20:45 2022 No.9519189 >>9519150 It isn't. He lives to get (you)s on /vr/, it's what's keeping him for offing himself.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 16:38:10 2022 No.9519202

>>9518998
I can think of many more. But a key one is that soldiering is a valuable skill. It wasn't invented just to fix video games. You can use it to make and repair all kinds of shit. Unless you're so rich you have spares of every electrical/electronic device you own, or an on site time of repairmen available 24/7 you're going to run into a situation where something is broken and you want it fixed now.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 16:51:36 2022 No.9519217

I wish my dad had taught me soldering and just electronics in general since thats what he went to school, worked on for his job and also did as a hobby. He taught me as a kid how to put a computer together, but nothing beyond that really. Also wish I had taken the electronics class in high-school instead of the shitty ass comp science course. Thought it would be a programming course and it was just networking shit where the instructor just made us read documentation and barely taught anything.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 17:18:00 2022 No.9519247

>>9519217
It's not a difficult skill to teach yourself in adulthood. The tools and materials don't have to be expensive either.
Just don't be like countertop faggot and buy a desoldering gun before a fucking multimeter. What a dumb cunt.
- Soldering iron
- Solder
- Flux
- Some kind of fan for blowing or sucking up fumes
- Some low-gauge wire for bodging
- Multimeter
- Side cutters
That's basically all you need for basic troubleshooting and repair. If you get really into it you can go for an oscilloscope, a desoldering tool, and whatever other expensive items.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 17:54:49 2022 No.9519293 >>9519009 good call on the hakko desolder tool clone, like half the price lol, what's the name of the iron? I can respect your decisions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 18:50:11 2022 No.9519379 I swear my desoldering pump doesn't work as well as it used to. Before I could always remove components with just one go, but now I can never get more than half the solder off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 18:52:44 2022 No.9519381 >>9518752 based big hands should only grab pussy

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:04:29 2022 No.9519405 >>9517990 I was with you until you turned into a smelly contrarian. Emulation is based and I bet you can't even solder for shit anyway, LARPer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:11:28 2022 No.9519417 File: 34 KB, 600x453, 1468881307916.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I buy"broken" old electronics on ebay and fix them. for fun after teaching myself to solder on some junk sega genesis and super nintendo motherboards.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:18:17 2022 No.9519435

>>9517990
Just yesterday I finally decided to get my feet wet with this stuff. Bought a soldering station and other soldering appliances. I'll finally gix my Dreamcast's battery and will remove the 12V line since I use a GDEMU exclusively.
I've also been watching lessons on eletric currents and what the components do and such. It's more interesting to me now than it was when I actually had to study the stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 20:04:22 2022 No.9519523 >>9518913 i like the smell of exhaust pipe too. but that doesnt mean it wouldnt kill me if i let it inside closed car for hours

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 20:05:23 2022 No.9519527 >>9519009 >skills to repair CRTs you're dead

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 20:08:50 2022 No.9519531 >>9519417 >was infamous at college for masturbating in his dorm room with the door open Truly one of us.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 20:09:17 2022 No.9519535 >>9519435 What solding material did you buy? Did you also get a desoldering pump? I ask as I am trying to learn to solder so I can do the samething for my Dreamcast

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 20:10:01 2022 No.9519536 >>9519527 I repaired two CRTs from following youtube tutorials. Just leave them unplugged for a week or two beforehand.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 20:13:47 2022 No.9519545 File: 490 KB, 449x401, ed8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And then he said I will just get my soldering Iron.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 20:27:07 2022 No.9519586 I can do it at a rudimentary level but I've got a lot more practice ahead of me to get competent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 20:28:27 2022 No.9519589 File: 107 KB, 1024x400, SMD-resistors[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do you solder these little fuckers? Also how do you extract components without fucking up the solder pads (and if you do how easy is it to repair)?

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 21:00:51 2022 No.9519696

>>9519535
I did get a desoldering pump, it was included with the soldering station as well as the solder itself. It's a 60/40 solder which I understand is the most common one. At this point, I would worry to much about the type of solder, the one you buy at the hardware store is going to be just fine, but if you must know, there is a type of solder material that includes flux inside the solder tube. From what I understand, you really want to get some flux so that you can break the oxidation surface in most metallic components and the solder sticks to it properly. I think that is more important.
And as far as removing solder goes, I'm going to use a desoldering pump, but you may also you those desoldering copper braids.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 21:07:46 2022 No.9519720 >>9519545 Hey anon, is that a multimeter in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 22:40:08 2022 No.9519931

>>9519202
This. One of my son's toys broke a while back, it's an electronic toy that makes music and he was really young so of course it was his favorite. Instead of buying a new one for $20-$30 I just opened it up and fixed it myself. I've fixed other shit too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 22:43:22 2022 No.9519942 >>9519589 >Also how do you extract components without fucking up the solder pads Solder sucker pen

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 22:56:56 2022 No.9519974

>>9519942
Would Harbor Fright be a goodplace to get solder? I see this here and wonder if this is a good size for gaming related caps. https://www.harborfreight.com/08mm-electrical-solder-58000.html

I also read that good desolder pens have a rubber cap on them, is that true or are plastic one fine as well?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 23:03:44 2022 No.9519987 >>9517990 Nah, I'm good

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 23:26:35 2022 No.9520036 >>9519974 I use this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0149K4JTY

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 23:33:10 2022 No.9520051 File: 39 KB, 460x453, am5R1OV_460s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9517992 >>9518185 >>9518913 lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 23:51:32 2022 No.9520092 >>9517998 Pinecil will get the job done, I have the KSGER T12 with the K tip but now the prices are much higher.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 23:57:29 2022 No.9520104 File: 221 KB, 720x1280, Snapchat-1895987441.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9517990 Oh but I can

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 00:03:01 2022 No.9520114 >>9518205 >get every game for free, indistinguishable function >no you must pay out the ass to collectors for reasons any other context you call the person pushing this a faggot shill

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 00:12:03 2022 No.9520126 What happens if I don't change the CMOS battery of a PS2 when it dies? At this point most PS2 batteries are dying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 00:46:48 2022 No.9520207 >>9519545 >and then i used it to burn the fuck out of these two bitches

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 01:08:47 2022 No.9520258 I soldered a bunch of mod chips back in the day with zero experience, just wasn't a retard and made sure I wasn't bridging stuff that wasn't supposed to be bridged, and everything always worked perfectly. Now I wonder if I was just getting lucky

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 01:48:21 2022 No.9520359 File: 42 KB, 600x468, Tomb of the Resistance.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9519589 make them stand up like this. for removing them, use tweezer irons.

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 02:31:24 2022 No.9520432

>>9519217
That sucks, but at this point you have no one to blame but yourself. There are resources available to teach yourself, although many online are worse than garbage. There are also hobbyist groups that can help. Your local community college has courses.

>>9520359
11/tiktok

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 02:35:23 2022 No.9520446 >>9519009 I have that same desoldering pump. its great.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 15:22:56 2022 No.9521475 >>9520104 Wires are too long. Looks like ass.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 15:27:06 2022 No.9521484 >>9517990 i emulate because it's less laggy :3

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 15:31:42 2022 No.9521493

>>9517990
i know how to solder, but i'd just ask one of the furries to do it for me.

i don't drain my car's oil myself because there's always a promotional deal as cheap as the retail price of the consumables alone, and it includes disposal. Maybe things are different in bumpkin land?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 16:59:02 2022 No.9521626 >>9519931 My son's bubble gun got left out in the rain this summer and I resoldered the trigger switch after it corroded off.

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 17:19:38 2022 No.9521670

>>9521493
It's true in the USA, I spent years working in auto parts. Even when there was a promo deal for buying oil and a filter it was no cheaper than going to any mechanic or dealer and having them do it for you. They do it so cheap because they want to get you in the door. BUT if you really want to make an argument for changing your own, it's be that those deals with mechanics are for conventional oil, if you want synthetic then it's still a little cheaper to buy your own during a promo and do it yourself.

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 17:30:32 2022 No.9521695

>>9519589
>Also how do you extract components without fucking up the solder pads
use only heat, don't apply any pressure
if you have lead-free solder on your board (which melts awfully), you can try first adding a "small shitload" of leaded solder and hope it mixes enough with the lead-free that both can come off with some wick or desoldering pump

>and if you do how easy is it to repair
moderately easy
see this video https://youtu.be/7o4ZWlG6mmo?t=669
instead of a "repair kit" you can improvise with a piece of copper wire or a trace-thin piece of copper foil

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 17:33:57 2022 No.9521704 >>9517998 get a pinecil they are cheap and very good irons. mine has fully replaced my t12 hakko clone that i was using before

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 17:35:04 2022 No.9521708

>>9520432
Do you take a community college course to learn to wipe your ass? What is with boomers and burning money? You fuckers are like helpless dogs, literally use google and practice. You can learn to do whatever you want without spending that kind of money if you have the internet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 18:18:00 2022 No.9521829 >>9520104 Fuck PSIO.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 20:29:33 2022 No.9522130 >>9519417 based i do this also

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 20:31:07 2022 No.9522135 >>9519974 yeah get this >>9520036 its very good solder, and the plastic ones are pretty shit get a engineer ss02

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 20:32:07 2022 No.9522138 >>9520359 >for removing them, use tweezer irons. you dont need that shit you can just tap both sides with your iron and itll come off

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 20:51:27 2022 No.9522170 >>9522138 yeah, along with the solder pads from the board, if you fuck it up. use the right tools for the job, imbecile.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 20:52:34 2022 No.9522176 >>9522170 >along with the solder pads from the board, if you fuck it up. only if youre a retard, hot tweezers aren't nice i much prefer just using my iron

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 20:53:12 2022 No.9522183 >>9517998 You can solder with a fork you left on the stove for 10 minutes Don't fall for the meme of expensive soldering irons, it's literally just a hot piece of metal that you use to melt the solder

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 21:41:17 2022 No.9522287 I bricked my friend's Wii via soldering in an attempt to get to play Smash Bros Brawl early.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 21:55:36 2022 No.9522309 >>9517990 >Sneeze >Permanently destroy console >Drop of superheated metal flies up my nose No thanks

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 22:40:21 2022 No.9522393
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Haven't needed to solder anything in a while since I basically completed everything I needed to do. Recapped a few old consoles that were malfunctioning or experiencing issues like audio hum. Did an RGB mod for my N64. Made an entire set of my own RGB cables for everything I needed, etc.

Most proud of actually successfully doing the NESRGB installation, something I had been putting off for a while beforehand. I don't have a desoldering gun but by some miracle I was able to take out the PPU without damaging the fucker. I also desoldered/disassembled the power/RF-modulator daughterboard, took out the RF circuitry, and repurposed the hole for the RGB mini-din port, as well as repurposing the channel select switch to now turn the NESRGB on/off.

Maybe at some future point I'll recap my spare 24" trinitron. It has some weird geometry issues and the red values can't ever get quite right, and slowly creep up or down depending on the drive setting. I assume it's a capacitor issue somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 22:45:59 2022 No.9522408 >>9518517 You don't need to change the oil in a Tesla.....please tell me you're trolling.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 22:47:05 2022 No.9522409 >>9517990 I'll just pay you to do it, bitch.

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 22:56:16 2022 No.9522443

Post for blog contribution to the board: I tried to solder a new battery onto a copy of Smash Bros 64, since the unlocked content / stats would reset everytime the power went off and I figured it was the problem. I have only the vaguest memories of soldering from back when a took an intro electronics class in high school (not recent).
It still doesn't save anything when the N64 powers down, so I don't know if I messed up the soldering or if the problem was actually do to some other fault on the board (seems unlikely though). I didn't have access to flux, or any kind of solder sucker/remover (never used one in high school and didn't know it existed) so I basically just melted a bunch of solder over the new battery terminals and hoped for the best. This was a few months back, so I can't recall if I used a multimeter to confirm the battery connection was good or not.
I'm not sure if if it's worth investing in some sort of additional soldering tools, or even what they would be, and practicing my skills since at the moment it's my only piece of electronics that I might have to repair. I'll be annoyed if I buy two new pieces of gear, re-solder the new battery (admittedly it's a fast process), and then find out the game STILL doesn't work correctly. It just seems like a lot of learning and shopping for a fix that might not work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 22:57:23 2022 No.9522446 >>9522443 >do to some other fault due to* can't believe I did that in front of you guys

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 23:07:57 2022 No.9522459 My hands shake a lot, that is why I'm a diagnostic doctor

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 23:39:20 2022 No.9522517 >>9517992 no amount is safe. See Grant Imihara. You vent as much as possible and hope for good RNG in life and that you don't lose too much IQ along the way

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 00:18:23 2022 No.9522581 >>9522459 boomer bros... we got too cocky

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 01:51:58 2022 No.9522735 File: 554 KB, 500x281, 1601651871816.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Actually it's more like the car guy that can't solder. Or if you really must, weld.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 02:01:40 2022 No.9522757 Soldering is hard my house is permanently dusty and no amount of flux or alcohol stops my solder from rolling off

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 02:50:00 2022 No.9522871 File: 47 KB, 750x920, e61.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9517992 Meanwhile Me soldering

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 03:05:40 2022 No.9522898 >>9522443 Post a picture.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 04:17:37 2022 No.9523054 >>9517992 Just use lead-free >b-but it's slow to heat up! Then wait you fucking zoomer

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 04:27:57 2022 No.9523094 >>9522757 point a fan out a window you retard. its highly unlikely you alchohol wipe a pcb and 2 seconds later there is a pile of dust on it

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:50:47 2022 No.9523926

>>9522393
>I don't have a desoldering gun but by some miracle I was able to take out the PPU without damaging the fucker.
Damn, how did you do it? I've been thinking of a desoldering gun as a prerequisite for doing an NESRGB installation.
I have had success desoldering connectors by using a manual solder sucker first, then wick, then a hot air station + plus gravity to let the connector fall out without any force, but I'd be worried about putting too much heat into a chip if I used this method.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:53:46 2022 No.9523929 >>9523054 Lead-free is gay and real men use their lungs as fume extractors.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 12:27:55 2022 No.9524068 >>9522757 get some HEPA. That should be a higher priority than your sticker collection. emulation is free and less laggy than consoles if you know how to set it up correctly

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:22:42 2022 No.9524671
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>>9523926
Took forever. Lots of fucking around with one of those dogshit solder suckers and wick. But there were still a few pins that connect to a large ground plain that I just couldnt get free.

I ended up getting it out with a fucking heat gun. I put the board chip-side down against an iron 45lb plate with the PPU over the center hole. I covered the motherboard with several layers of aluminum foil so that only the PPU pins were exposed. Then I heater it up a bit at a time and started tuggging on the PPU from the bottom underneath the iron plate until eventually I tugged it free

I was so scared that I probably just fried the chip... but it worked. Still going strong to this day

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:17:44 2022 No.9524959 >>9517990 OP is fat and can't score. Needs to prove himself through insignificant things to fill his pathetic ego yet his life never changes or improves desu.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:27:57 2022 No.9524986 >>9518751 No I'm white.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:29:52 2022 No.9524992 >>9517992 I unironically like the smellnof lead fumes

>>	TheOldManAndTheWii Wed Dec 28 20:37:12 2022 No.9525004 >>9517990 I agree with this, it's useful to be able to do it and can be fun. I recommend starting out by circuit bending battery operated toys that make sounds before you butcher a Gameboy or something, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:56:16 2022 No.9525030 Lead free or lead solder? Desolder pump or braid?

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:57:17 2022 No.9525031

>>9525004
I mean simple starter work to get someone comfortable with holding the iron and shit you could always do battery replacements for old cartridge games that use batteries for saves.
Nintendo overwhelmingly used CR2025 and CR2032 so getting those either pre-tabbed or getting a battery holder that would fit in the carts to solder into place is always easy.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:59:03 2022 No.9525038

I have lots of practice soldering from a career in appliance repair but due to the nature of the work I didn’t have much experience in desoldering and I’m dogshit at it

Part of the problem is that I’m like 80% sure my station lies about the actual temp of the iron and it takes longer to heat up that it says

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:04:06 2022 No.9525047

Are there any in-depth guides on DIYing your own AV cables? One issue I've often faced is getting audio hum from SCART cables, and I've never known whether you're supposed to connect audio ground to common ground or not. I've always just tied all grounds together because AFAIK it shouldn't make a difference, but I'm not sure.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:23:06 2022 No.9525084
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>>9522443
>>9522898
Here it is. The left-hand side of the image is flipped vertically, so that the leads correspond exactly to the components on the right-hand side. I just tested the battery with my multimeter and it comes up at 3.2 V. Testing with one lead on the battery and the other on random leads around the board (looking for trouble) also shows 3.2 V, in some areas 2.76 V. So it seems like my soldering was successful; maybe some other component on the board really is faulty?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 00:31:37 2022 No.9525571 >>9524959 >a black man dodging multiple child support payments typed this

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 02:34:23 2022 No.9525890 Just got my TS100 today and it just keep saying Sensor Error with the tip installed. V2.2. Did I just get a faulty one?

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 05:42:19 2022 No.9526323
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>>9525890
I think the whole point with the TIS-100 is that it comes with corrupted procedures and you have to re-program them yourself.
Sorry, I don't know the answer, I just wanted to make this joke, because it was too perfect and the opportunity will never come again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 07:17:45 2022 No.9526531 >>9525030 Yes.

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 07:33:43 2022 No.9526552

>finally nut up and get a soldering kit
>buy a shit ton of 2032s
>all my Pokemon cartridges are going to work until I die I just have to swap the battery in two minutes
>feels good

Reminds me, one time I posted a thread asking if it were possible to make a GBA force map L to A by doing something with the board somehow. That would mean you could use it to play GB Pokemon one handed like the GBA or DS games. I am once again asking if it would be possible to force L input to always be read by the GBA as A

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 08:06:35 2022 No.9526597 >>9526552 The lines for the input buttons are likely in the traces of the pcb. You would have to likely cut the traces and reroute them with wire work. Im not an electrical engineer student mind you

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 10:44:45 2022 No.9526831 >>9521708 Do you need to sperg out because one of several options I suggested triggers you because you're too poor for community college? Also, pics of your self taught soldering jobs or gtfo. I need a good laugh.

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 13:11:51 2022 No.9527067

>>9526597
That's basically what it would take. Don't need to cut the traces though, just bridge the L and A trace.
>>9526552
Go watch a video about installing a newer IPS screen into a gameboy/advance with button combos for brightness control that's basically what you're going to be doing to your GBA if you really want to go that route.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 13:29:54 2022 No.9527096 >>9527067 >Don't need to cut the traces though, just bridge the L and A trace. Oh true, yeah that makes sense

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 16:54:19 2022 No.9527532

>>9526552
>would be possible to force L input to always be read by the GBA as A
Sure. Just change the mappings in your emulator.
Of course it's possible to rewire a GBA so L always triggers A. But why would you want to do something so retarded? Do you play nothing but pokemans? There are many easy to implement options to make the system switchable between normal and L=A mode.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 16:57:21 2022 No.9527543 >>9520051 >solder joint

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 16:57:23 2022 No.9527545

>>9517990
serious question: what am I supposed to solder? what needs soldering?
I mean being able to sold is one thing but you also need to know what part exactly.
My father used to be an electro technician and he still has all the tools and can show me how / I know some soldering it's not hard but like I said would not even know where to exactly start soldering and why

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 17:02:42 2022 No.9527556 >>9527545 For the sake of gaming simple applications are to do simple console mods or to replace batteries in cartridges. There's more you can do but that's usually why people get into it

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 17:02:44 2022 No.9527557

>>9527545
What you need is some basic knowledge on electronics. Soldering itself is just a part of that. People talk like it's some video game skill that you just obtain but sadly, real life is usually more complicated than that. Knowing how to poke things with a hot iron is a bit different from knowing what exactly you should poke and why.

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 17:03:56 2022 No.9527563

>>9527545
some blogs/websites/forums have guides and schematics and useful links for parts and tools.
if something doesn't work just describe the issue and send pics of the components in case something is visibly fried.
there are always people online who can help you. i mean even people who do this for a living might ask for advice

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 04:27:20 2022 No.9529145 >>9526552 I have average sized hands and I can play pokemon one handed just fine on a GBC. N64 controller is perfection with one hand. DMG is a bit of a stretch but I can do it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 04:34:53 2022 No.9529157 >>9525084 I had a gold OOT cart that refused to work at all. I ended up saving it by swapping the ROM chip onto a donor board from Waialae Golf Club. It was a lot of desoldering but it worked.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 14:44:16 2022 No.9529919 >>9522735 I fixed the odometer of my old car by soldering a new LCD into the instrument cluster.

Anonymous Fri Dec 30 15:10:01 2022 No.9529950

>>9525084
I don't see anything super obvious, but usually you can see the legs of the component stocking out of the solder bump on the back, but I can't see them in your picture. If you have a multimeter check to see if you get three volts on the pads, and if not try melting the solder and pushing the battery down more.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 15:13:15 2022 No.9529957 >>9517992 They smell good tho.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 15:18:13 2022 No.9529965 >>9529950 Wow, I can't read sorry

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 15:23:32 2022 No.9529979 >>9525084 Do you get that 3.2V across the two pads on the back of the board?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 15:24:50 2022 No.9529983 >>9529157 Broken trace on the PCB most likely. It might have been fixable if you knew what exactly was broken.

Anonymous Fri Dec 30 15:34:25 2022 No.9530008

>"Learn how to solder"

If it takes you longer than 10min to get a feel for it you must be brain damaged.
Learning to swim is harder than this, it's literally buy soldering iron => use, done.

You make it sound like it takes weeks or months practicing like welding does.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 15:45:00 2022 No.9530034 >>9530008 There are layers of finess beyond easy component swaps. The most /vr/ relevant jobs are on the easy end though.

Anonymous Fri Dec 30 17:51:37 2022 No.9530270

>>9530008
Pics of your solder work after 10 minutes of learning
Sure, some things are easy. But every time we have one of these threads it's a whole lot of talk with nothing to back it up. The few times people have posted their cringe it was usually incredibly embarrassing.

Anonymous Fri Dec 30 19:15:10 2022 No.9530496

>>9529979
>two pads
Where the battery connects? Yes, between those two, as well as from one pad of the battery to just about anywhere else. I wiped down the board with alcohol last night, as well as the connectors on the N64 itself, and just tested it again. No difference, game works as usual, but no data stays saved. I don't know if power is completely cut to the cartridge memory when the "Reset" button on the console is used, but using that instead of On/Off still led to memory being erased.
From further reading, the only two things I've discovered are:
1) multiple people in similar situations who said they had broken pin/trace connections to the chips, so they soldered wires directly from whichever pin(s) were disconnected to the appropriate chip. I'd have to spend a lot of time continuity testing and then finding a wire to put on there, which is more work than I'm willing to do, or;
2) I also saw a post from a guy saying that he owns two N64s, and one of them wipes the game data from cartridges he uses with it. If my problem is with the N64, that's possibly another can of worms, and would very likely be the same approach/solution as above. The only other game I have to test with is Mario Kart 64, which holds its data no problem. I don't think it utilizes the same CR2032 battery-based save system / PCB model, so I'm not sure if an N64-based fault would necessarily lead to data wiping on it anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 19:17:48 2022 No.9530506 Finished up my x station install, about to do a triple bypass on my genesis. Wish me luck

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 19:35:12 2022 No.9530539 >>9517990 I want to solder an xstation onto my ps1 but I'm afraid I'll fuck it up since I haven't soldered anything before. I know practice boards exists but I don't know if it'll help with installing xstation.

Anonymous Fri Dec 30 20:35:51 2022 No.9530698

>>9519589
>How do you solder these little fuckers?
one leg at a time. the other responses are fucking with you.
put solder+iron on a pad, slide the component into place (this is called 'tacking it down'), remove iron, solder the other side, and then clean up the first side if nits messy.
>Also how do you extract components without fucking up the solder pads
Use heat, not force. If you use force, shit breaks. Stuff will move with basically zero pressure when it's done right.
The exact method depends on the component (SMD vs TFT, simple two-leg devices vs complex multi-leg devices, etc) but for through-hole stuff you just remove all the solder using a good sucker or braid, gently moving the legs as you do so, and components will fall right out.
for small two-contact SMD stuff, you can usually just use lots of solder and a big tip to heat both sides at the same time and slide them off. components may get damaged due to heat when you do this, but the pads will be fine.
>(and if you do how easy is it to repair)?
Not easy. It's not an "experts-only" skill but it's tedious and not for beginners. practice on shit you dont care about because you WILL cause more damage than you fix the first few times you do it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 23:27:56 2022 No.9531068 >>9530539 >>9530506

Anonymous Sat Dec 31 00:17:21 2022 No.9531183

>>9531068
I'd say X Station is going to be tough for first time soldering. Lifting the legs on the one chip is a little intense for a first time.

I went from no soldering experience to installing snes and N64 rgb kits, then recapped a few consoles, then did the X Station. I would practice on some of them learn to solder kits on eBay and watch a few soldering vidoes on YouTube. What part of the world you from?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 00:37:10 2022 No.9531246 File: 1.07 MB, 2528x3840, soldering grill.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] am I doing it right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 00:59:23 2022 No.9531291 >>9531246 U go gurl

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 01:00:50 2022 No.9531294 >>9531183 Not them but I'm in Texas and just want to do >>9518523 after I learn more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 01:35:45 2022 No.9531369 >>9519003 Thanks Anon. Next step: enable video out on the DS Lite. Then find out if GBA dehissers are scientific or bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 01:40:12 2022 No.9531373 >>9531294 Might want to look more into that, last I checked it wasn't advised to remove it. Im in PA and was gonna offer to show him how to install the X Station

Anonymous Sat Dec 31 02:17:38 2022 No.9531458

>>9517992
I solder for a living. The fumes you breathe in are from the flux, not the metal. So you're not breathing lead fumes, but that being said flux fumes still aren't great to breathe in, because people in my profession have ended up with chronic asthma or coughs, of course that's from years and years of soldering. I'd recommend using a fume extractor while you're soldering so you don't breathe anything in. Anyway, take my advice but don't worry too much about it especially if it's not something you're doing daily.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 02:25:52 2022 No.9531468 >>9531458 Would a fan on low power/open window/air flow + coofmask/covering over nose/mouth provide anything of significance from reducing bodily intake of fumes?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 02:26:40 2022 No.9531471 I would love to learn how to solder I just can't really afford to drop money on a chink kit. I would get that ksger one if I could. Making my own modded gba would be incredible but >poorfag cope

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 03:46:07 2022 No.9531634 >>9530496 The data wiping on reset in addition to power off points toward the Stam chip instead of the battery as far as I understand. Probably not the hardest thing to replace, but way more involved than the battery.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 04:34:46 2022 No.9531737 >>9531634 Damn. If that's true, I wish someone in all the tutorials I saw had pointed that out as being a sanity check to try before buying a CR2032 and the tools to open the cartridges, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 04:41:03 2022 No.9531753 >>9531458 >I solder for a living Your English is very good for a robot made in China.

Anonymous Sat Dec 31 22:26:53 2022 No.9533482 [DELETED]

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>>9519150
I do emulate games it is a fine alternative to using actual hardware given the situation.

>>9519293
I got the stuff from China, back when it was the last place for cheap items but now it is best to avoid. There is no name for the pen but the branding for the control unit says "Ksger" which offers hot air stations and a confusing amount of sets which I am confused with the differences and uses. I would not recommend without having some native speaker help with translating to figure out what the things are.

>>9519527
I would like to avoid that which is why I'd prefer if there were professionals who could do such work, but by now they have all died off.

>>9520446
I was hoping it would make it easier since I figured my first practice was to replace the switches off one keyboard which are annoying sounding to another kind which is more satisfying to the ears. As time has rolled on since I've not gotten the time nor funds to get the materials, I'm having more and more reservations against such a project for practice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 22:30:28 2022 No.9533490 >>9533482 kill yourself freak

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 22:31:04 2022 No.9533492 >>9533490 Stop giving it (you)s faggot. He doesn't care about what you say, just how many replies he gets with each post.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 22:36:15 2022 No.9533512 >>9531737 It sounds like a far, far rarer failure mode than the battery dying.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 22:54:12 2022 No.9533565 >>9533492 plus you'll get shit on by mods believe it or not

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 22:58:44 2022 No.9533574 File: 144 KB, 736x845, 1668271987095.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9517990 I'll leave this video here to help to who have no idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqvHogekDI4

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 23:02:38 2022 No.9533582 >>9533490 >>9533492 you guys are mentally ill. nothing he said was attention seeking or "freak"ish

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 23:06:58 2022 No.9533592 >>9533582 it's not this post it's the hundreds of others. please use critical thinking.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 23:30:18 2022 No.9533632 >>9533592 >it's the hundreds of others. link them right fricken now

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 23:33:09 2022 No.9533638 File: 25 KB, 400x392, 1670871769020067.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9533632 lurk moar

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 23:46:18 2022 No.9533661 File: 329 KB, 1031x1160, tip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9533632 because you asked

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 23:52:14 2022 No.9533668 >>9533661 Thats a weird posting habit, but maybe he just really really wants help and is not of healthy intelligence. No reason to tell him to kill himself desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 23:52:56 2022 No.9533670 >>9533668 Shut the fuck up you nigger newfag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 23:54:23 2022 No.9533672 >>9533668 >posting habit it's abusing a loophole and a lack of proper moderation

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 00:02:44 2023 No.9533679 >>9533670 Or what? you going to call me names anonymously some more? ooooo so scared bro!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 00:17:38 2023 No.9533694 >>9533672 He seems a little retarded, but not freakish.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 00:30:27 2023 No.9533712 >>9533694 okay? i don't have an opinion about the words that were used. it's really besides the point and you know that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 00:34:35 2023 No.9533718 >>9533712 But why are you mad at him? The internet is full to bursting with DDIQs saying way dumber shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 00:40:22 2023 No.9533727 >>9533718 rule 13

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 00:46:49 2023 No.9533740 >>9533672 I always report him for avatarfagging when I see him, you should to. Let them know.

Anonymous Sun Jan 1 04:04:01 2023 No.9534163

>>9519435
>>9519535
>>9519696
It finally arrived. I desoldered the 12V thingy from my Dreamcast's PSU and did the CR2032 mod with very little experience and just a few YouTube videos. It was actually much easier than I thought now that I have the proper tools for the job. Overall, I really enjoyed myself. I know it's an easy job for somebody experienced in the art of soldering, but as for me, I felt like a super man. I would recommend these Dreamcast mods for beginners, make sure to follow Voultar's video on the subject, dude knows his shit.
Happy New Year and godspeed with your soldering jobs!

Anonymous Sun Jan 1 09:07:41 2023 No.9534582
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Didn't get a pic of the inside. But I managed to install an xstation into my PS1 earlier today. It's an SCPH-1xxx model. I tried to install it into a 5501 I had laying around but I think it was already fried from earlier modchip shenanigans. I think this one is cool because it has all the serial and parallel ports as well as the RCA composite jacks.
Soldering is so much easier when you take your time and use lots of flux. Flux is fucking magic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 09:09:24 2023 No.9534585 File: 568 KB, 1512x2688, 20221231_194553.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9534582 Less blurry image.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 11:39:10 2023 No.9534765 >nobody posted the best soldering video yet Christ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RXugDd0xik

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 17:13:31 2023 No.9535189 >>9518214 It is literally not the same sand. You are retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 18:29:07 2023 No.9535415 >>9517990 I can soder, but I'm not a console peasant anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 18:32:29 2023 No.9535423 >>9518185 You don't get high from killing brain cells. You will probably feel lightheaded from the poison killing your brain, followed by a headache.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 18:35:55 2023 No.9535428 >>9518237 Sounds like a problem with your computer, maybe learn how to identify malicious software.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 18:58:48 2023 No.9535497 >>9517990 Why do people pretend that this is some next level big brain haxzorz shit? It's literally just melting thing with a hot pointy stick and following instructions

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 22:23:06 2023 No.9535976 why the fuck is this soldering thread so intense

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 22:29:24 2023 No.9535992 >>9517990 I want to so bad. There's so much shit I could fix and do if I could. Best cheap but reliable soldering gun? Not looking for top of the line shit here. I'm sure there's plenty of YouTube tutorials.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 00:42:17 2023 No.9536272 >>9535992 >Best cheap but reliable soldering gun? Not looking for top of the line shit here. Good soldering irons cap out around $80 (TS100)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 00:46:13 2023 No.9536279 >>9535976 IT’S A LIFE OR DEATH STRUGGLE AGAINST THE FUCKING ELEMENTS HOLY SHIT@!@!!@!!@@

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 02:46:12 2023 No.9536525 >>9517990 are there any soldering practice kits? i know how to do it, but have never done smd, and also want to ease myself back into it after 7+ years of only soldering a couple mice switches

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 04:55:31 2023 No.9536813 >>9536525 find a broken electronic around your house or on the side of the street and start desoldering and soldering to it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 04:57:48 2023 No.9536823 >>9520114 >get every game for free You can't emulate every game and even if you could, emulation is janky and a headache to use.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 05:30:48 2023 No.9536872 >>9536823 more of a headache than keeping multiple pieces of 30 year old equipment functioning properly?

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 06:41:07 2023 No.9536998

>>9535497
Because a few people have actually tried and understand it's not what you imagine it to be.

>>9535976
Being able to successfully larp as someone old enough to be here requires parroting something you saw on youtube emphatically and then arguing with all the other underage who parroted a different youtube.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:23:07 2023 No.9538006 File: 29 KB, 640x480, giddy3-2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9534765 >>9533574 >>9521695 Finally some people that come with a solution and not just blatant hatred.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 03:33:42 2023 No.9539432 >>9524068 >That should be a higher priority than your sticker collection. What the fuck are you talking about, anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 03:48:52 2023 No.9539461 >doing ANYTHING so that some random internet strangers accept me, a random internet stranger It's a waste of time. Eat shit, fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 04:51:37 2023 No.9539558 >>9536872 Considering the tech in vr times needs less maintenance then modern shit, yes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 04:52:50 2023 No.9539563 >>9535428 I hate minorities infesting my computer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:06:32 2023 No.9539596 >>9521695 >>9533574 PACE channel used to have a nice playlist on soldering, I have download it many years ago, dont know if its still online

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 07:05:15 2023 No.9539798 >>9539596 its linked on the libreboot website and small parts are on youtube

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 19:07:38 2023 No.9540864 File: 60 KB, 770x540, dachshundDYK.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9517990 I think this board could really use a console repair general. I think most people here would be interested in discussing console repair and seeking advice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 19:11:49 2023 No.9540879 >>9540864 There used to be one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 19:12:53 2023 No.9540881 >>9540864 I dunno if mods would be cool with it, they'd probably move it to dyi I guess. It would be extremely helpful though, finding cd drives for certain models of consoles in the late 4th and 5th gen would be helpful info

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 19:17:23 2023 No.9540889 >>9527545 Simple repairs such replacing internal batteries or reattaching broken wires. If you plan to do hard mods you'll need to be able to solder in chips.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 19:23:26 2023 No.9540903 >>9540881 Nah, there's been tech and repair threads for years and years on /vr/, it's like gunsmithing on /k/. I think the threads that used to be around just kind of waned in speed and couldn't keep up with bumping.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 19:34:35 2023 No.9540926
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>>9540864
There used to be a regular general. There used to be a buy, sell, trade general too.
I think hardware prices pushed most people into emulation, so hardware users are becoming increasingly rare.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 20:01:43 2023 No.9541004

>>9540879
We need to bring it back. I think I might start one.

>>9540881
I don't see why not. /diy/ covers a broad range of projects but seems to be centered around home repair and renovation. A /crg/ thread would just be about retro console repair.

>>9540926
I'm hoping hardware prices will come down soon but it looks like they are also victims of the collecting craze. You can still find good deals if you search outside of ebay. A store near me sells "as-is" consoles for fairly cheap. I bought a PS2 slim for my friend that worked just fine for $35. However I also bought myself an Xbox that had a leaked capacitor that corroded some traces and a bad OS. I heard putting in a mod chip should fix it which I'll do sometime.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 20:19:25 2023 No.9541045 >>9517990 Bought a broken copy of secret of evermore for $1 at a flea market. Had like 3 rusted traces. 5 minutes of soldering in new wires to jump the traces and its good to go. This shit is so easy, its no harder then using a gluegun.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 20:30:32 2023 No.9541069

>>9540926
>There used to be a buy, sell, trade general too.
I think hardware prices pushed most people into emulation, so hardware users are becoming increasingly rare.
I guess that's true. A lot of people have their old hardware from when they were kids though, so some would certainly be interested in the tech aspect there if they need to fix something there, without having to get into expensive collecting.

>>9541004
Go for it. Hell, it doesn't even need to be a constant general, you can just make one if you want one and there isn't one in the catalog. Repair And Mod general, /ram/

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 20:30:33 2023 No.9541070

>>9540926
Modern prices are such a shame. It's impossible to get a good price on anything anymore. Even broken consoles now cost barely less than working ones on ebay because sellers know there are people that look for broken stuff for a deal that they can repair.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 20:38:27 2023 No.9541086 >>9541069 I'll probably wait for this thread to die/hit the bump limit first then make one.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 21:09:14 2023 No.9541140

>>9517990
I borrowed my dad's soldering kit from when he used to work on computers ages ago to fix up my dreamcast last year.
>There was evidence of previous soldering attempts for the battery.
>The soldering was so poor that when I was removing the replacement battery it was also beginning to pull the traces off the board.
The guy who replaced the battery used such long poles for it that he bent them upward INTO THE BOARD. The fact it even works is a miracle.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 21:20:33 2023 No.9541165

>>9534582
Anon I just finished installing my Xstation in a 5501 yesterday. Had to fix some stupid shit from the previous owner who still left some cut wires wired in still from I guess a previous modchip.
Felt nice having it not work initially (due to the previous fuckery) and having to fix that to get it all working finally.
First soldering project I've done other than a couple of basic practice kits and GBA battery replacements, feels nice to solder man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 21:22:06 2023 No.9541169 I'll do you all one better... WHY IS SOLDERING? What obscene manner of disuse could you have inflicted on your consoles that you need to perform surgery on the inside for?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 21:26:54 2023 No.9541175 >>9541169 Bad caps just happen. Some consoles need a hard mod if you wanna do certain things on them. >>9517990 I learned this just to mod my 360 and I'm amazed I didn't fuck it up. The skill has completely fallen into disuse since.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 21:28:55 2023 No.9541178

>>9541169
repairing second-hand consoles and bringing them back to life
consoles can suffer mechanical wear and tear from normal usage that can require repairs
installing mods for things like playing pirated games, RGB video or digital output
components over time can fail regardless of how they've been cared for, such as bad capacitors.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 21:34:47 2023 No.9541192 Whats a good soldering kit I could get if I want to fix my Playstation 2? It won't read Blue Disc or Playstation and I'd like to try and swap out the laser.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 21:36:46 2023 No.9541201 >>9541169 > could you have inflicted on your none, I've never broken any of my games. Hell, I had a gba cart survive the washing machine. I fix other peoples broken games and keep/sell 'em. Fixing broken stuff is more fun then playing 'em

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 21:39:19 2023 No.9541207

>>9541192
If that's the issue then a soldering iron isn't going to help you anyway. Start off by gently cleaning the laser as well as the censors in the open central area of the laser assembly below where the disc sits. If that doesn't help then there's potentioeters to adjust voltage to the laser assembly for reading CDs and DVDs (your problem would be with reading CDs). And if absolutely nothing like this works, then you'd just replace the entire internal disc drive, which is something that you can just unplug and drop a new one in. No soldering required.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 21:42:59 2023 No.9541215

>>9541207
Well its a fat Playstation 2 so it might be easier to open. The previous owner did not treat this thing very well. The front door is missing, the far left controller port is missing plastic, and it only opens when pressure is applied to the top of the unit.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 21:46:07 2023 No.9541219

>>9541215
Honestly I recommend opening up ALL used consoles that you acquire, even if there's nothing visibly wrong with them. Still good to check under the hood and make sure there's no obvious issues with the components or that the inside is caked with dust and roaches or something. For disassembling a fat PS2 just check out an ifixit guide online. Getting to the disc drive and opening that up isn't hard at all. But it's definitely a lot harder to test because you have to reassemble the drive every time you want to see if doing something solved the issue. But drop-in replacement drives should still be fairly easy to obtain. I think they use a fairly generic drive you can swap out.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 22:19:54 2023 No.9541282

>>9541169
Sometimes you buy something second hand and it turns out one of the previous owners was a stupid fuckwit and you didn't know. If that happens, you can complain about it, or you can fix it.

Also replacing a dry save battery tends to involve the use of soldering, traditionally, so even if there's nothing actually broken on the cartridge, you'd use one for just a piece of maintenance.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 22:35:22 2023 No.9541317

>>9541219
I do recall hearing about the Playstation 2 being a nightmare to open up, at least on the fat ones. When I was younger I opened my Xbox to see why the drive wouldn't work and found that the belt was decayed and that one of the gears needed replacing. God what a pain.
Thank you for the advice anon. In the event I do need to solder, do you recommend any good kits?

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 23:26:01 2023 No.9541401
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>>9541192
This is what I have https://www.homedepot.com/p/Weller-70-Watt-120-Volt-Digital-Soldering-Station-with-Precision-Iron-WLSKD7012A/320356147 it used to be cheaper. Get something that has adjustable heat settings. Try looking on craigslist or offer up for a cheap used one. You can try turning up the potentiometer on the laser to give it more voltage but that's not guaranteed to work and even if it does it's a bandaid at best. You're better off buying a whole new laser. If I remember correctly they have a few different laser models for the various PS2 fat models so make sure you get one that matches your model. You will have to remove whats called an anti static solder point before you install it. I believe it will be covering some contacts so it won't work if you don't remove it. Make sure you get a desolder braid. Don't worry it's actually very easy to do even for beginners.

>>9541207
>If that's the issue then a soldering iron isn't going to help you anyway.
Wrong. Replacement lasers typically have an anti static solder point that needs to be removed before installation and you need a soldering iron for that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 23:28:36 2023 No.9541404 >>9541317 It's not too bad to open but it's easy to break the fan connector if you're a gorilla retard like I am

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 02:31:13 2023 No.9541773 >>9541401 Oh this is just perfect, thank you for the pointers. I'll need to look up how to properly use a Potentiometer but it shouldn't be too complicated. >>9541404 I almost broke the Dreamcast fan, though I'm thinking I might replace it anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 02:46:07 2023 No.9541797 I'm a literal retard, what youtube channel will teach me how to do basic shit?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 03:23:30 2023 No.9541873 >>9541282 Nothing is worse when trying to replace simple age worn components than realizing someone with all the soldering skills of a stoned chimpanzee has already taken a stab at it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 04:17:49 2023 No.9541973 >>9541169 If you have old Macintosh computers then you can pretty much guarantee that they are going to need new capacitors.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:56:26 2023 No.9542245

>>9541797
This video seemed pretty decent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqV2xU1fee8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jQ9iJggkr4 This guy doesn't teach you how to solder per se but you can still learn about soldering in console repair applications from him. However do not try what he did with the battery tab. You have to be very quick and skilled to pull that off without fucking up the the battery. I tried that and the battery started leaking acid.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:38:05 2023 No.9542304 >>9541169 Enjoy the ticking time bomb in your Xbox

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:39:23 2023 No.9542306 >>9540926 Pretty sure the BST died because we found out someone was scooping shit up at low prices and flipping it

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:03:40 2023 No.9542638

>>9541873
Kek, that's gonna be anyone who comes into possession of my super famicom. It was the first console where I took a stab at replacing the caps because it had this terrible buzzing audio problem. And those surface mount caps were a pain in the ass and I ended up lifting some pads, then having to find alternate soldering points for those spots. Anyone who opens it up will see a ridiculous series of bodges made with capacitor legs and such. But hey, it works

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:34:28 2023 No.9542682

>>9541169
This hardware was never designed to last decades. Components degrade and fail even with proper use and storage.
I remember one guy that worked on the Commodore 64 was on Adrian's Digital Basement and said that the C64 was designed to last around 5 years in order to be cost effective.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 14:22:47 2023 No.9542756
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>>9542682
I'm assuming that what he actually said/meant was that the machines were built so they would reliably last at least 5 years with the given budget and specs, not that they went out of their way to get it just at the hair edge of such a time frame as to ensure failure.
This isn't particularly uncommon for any kind of tool or machine, and the item in question may very well have a much longer lifespan of use, the Commodore 64 could actually be expected to last as long as 10 years of frequent use on average assuming it's with a owner who takes half decent care of it, before we even get into the whole part of wear components which will need replacing or other care by someone more technically minded.

That said, I wonder what's like the most hardy and long lasting desktop computer or console around? Is there something like a Maxim gun for home or office computers where the machine is built around the expectation that it may need to run endlessly, so it's stupidly overbuilt or designed around incredibly simple to replace wear components? I'm assuming the only computers which get anywhere near that are like actual super computers which would be owned by institutions or corporations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 18:40:16 2023 No.9543224 >>9542756 We still had my dad's Amiga 500 up until 2013 when the movers broke it.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 19:21:46 2023 No.9543330

>>9542638
If you did a good enough job they wouldn't be convinced to open it who cares. My most shameful one is not /vr/ but one of my rgh 360s. I ruined one of the pads and needed to solder the wire onto a random trace halfway across the board. Probably not super durable, but it works flawlessly.

>>9542756
Ataris and famicoms seem immortal. You can generally expect them to "just work" at nearly half a century old. Pretty good for chintzy children's toys!

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