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Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:26:15 2013 No.948191 [Reply] [Original]

Can we have a retro controller thread?

Favourite controllers? Experiences with strange ones?

Found pic related in my garage earlier, the Microsoft Sidewinder Gamepad. I think theres a USB variant, but I could only find the DB-15 plug. Plugged into my retrogaming/emulation PC. I hear a lot of people give this controller shit, but I actually kind of like it.
The D-pad feels funny at first, but you get used to it. Actually good for shmups, was playing Giga Wing earlier with it, worked great.

Also, I love the Sega Saturn controller, although I honestly think its overrated.
Everyone on /vr/ says "best d-pad", and not that its bad, but its not incredible.
Even the Sega Megadrive D-Pad, although similar, feels a little better.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:34:45 2013 No.948202

>>948191
I miss serial ports. I know USB is the new Serial port, but serial ports were totally they for games. And yes I know they did other stuff, but like anyone used them for it. Hell they literally on some GPUs back then.

Nice as USB is serial always just worked with controllers and fucking joysticks, where the fuck did those go.

Xinput has made usb controllers too flakey damn xbox. I suddenly feel the need to buy a joystick.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:43:45 2013 No.948219

>>948202
The XInput API pisses me off.

What the hell was wrong with DirectInput?
I suppose maybe latency issues or whatever, but that doesn't explain Microsoft's XInput implementation other than to make money selling Xbox for Windows controllers.

Too bad.
Microsoft actually used to make good controllers.
The majority of Sidewinder joysticks were excellent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:49:45 2013 No.948232 >>948202 Are you talking about game ports? Those were typically on sound cards. Serial ports were used for a variety of input as well as other stuff like null-modem cables.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:53:16 2013 No.948240

>>948191
I have one of these, and I find it perfectly serviceable.

The stiffness feels about right for playing NES titles.

Also, if you open it up the PCB is prime for pad-hacking. All the connections have a little labeled hole in the corner ready to be soldered.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:56:15 2013 No.948246 File: 64 KB, 1023x597, N64 Super Pad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I prefer this to a standard N64 controller, especially for racing titles. Very resilient too.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:56:45 2013 No.948243
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NES Advantage has to be my all time favorite NES controller. >Adjustable turbo controls for both A and B
> slow-motion effect
>heavy as a brick, built to last, doesn't slide around
>comfortable as fuck arcade style joystick

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:04:45 2013 No.948259 File: 611 KB, 800x600, Capcom-pad-soldier-controller.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] These are way more comfortable than they look.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:07:15 2013 No.948264

>>948232
Game ports were serial ports. And yes I was. Serial had a lot of variety, kinda a bad thing really. Technically VGA ports are serial ports too.

But yes I miss the damn things because despite being far poorer in ability and design then USB it didn't have Windows cocking it up to sell more of their products which are dick.

And I must go buy a joystick and play a space game to get rid of this nostalgia.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:17:45 2013 No.948291

I used to have the exact same controller. It was awesome for SNES and earlier, and was workable for n64(dpad mapped to joystick or dpad, depending on need, same with l button)

Also, I don't remember which way it went, but there was something else that used the same type of port as the game port, and plugging the wrong thing in the wrong port resulted in a fucked up sound card or controller. Like I said, don't remember which exactly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:26:16 2013 No.948304 >>948246 How's the stick?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:32:15 2013 No.948314 >>948304 Less resistance than official stick, but much longer lasting. I always preferred it for MK64 because it made boosting so much easier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:38:15 2013 No.948325 >>948314 Neat. I'll see about trying to get a couple.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:43:45 2013 No.948334 >>948191 i have that same one OP. Used it for nesticle back in the day. BROFIST

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 04:01:15 2013 No.948350

>>948334
>Nesticle
I still laugh every time.

Side note; A friend gave me a SNES controller a couple years back which I modified for use with a parallel port. Made playing games with ZSNES a lot more natural. However; A. No modern PC has a Parallel port, B. The website hosting the PP driver has since gone down, and C. I've now come into the posession of an old working SNES and I've got an urge to play it, but I can't because I severed the connector in the modification process.
Feels like I shot myself in the foot a decade ago, and I'm only now feeling it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 05:35:16 2013 No.948418 >>948259 Have the sega one, still need the 3DO one

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 05:39:45 2013 No.948424
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I used this thing.

>Analog triggers
>Decent A/D-pads
>6 Button fighter layout
>8-way hat (next to S button)
>Throttle slider

One of the first gamepads with all that shit and pretty cheap. Great for emulators and decent with MechWarrior/Flight games before I got a HOTAS.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 05:41:15 2013 No.948427 File: 29 KB, 500x350, gravisu.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>948424 Forgot about the L/R buttons as well

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 05:56:16 2013 No.948439 >>948246 I have one of these, I think it's horrible!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 06:15:45 2013 No.948452 >>948191 I played Melty with that when it was first popping on /a/ I called it the wristbreaker

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 06:29:45 2013 No.948468 When I was young I would play my cousin's N64 and she always made me use this fucking 1 handed n64 controller that made no sense at all, it was fucking unusable. I can't find it anywhere and I have no idea what back-asswards company made it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 06:54:45 2013 No.948495 File: 80 KB, 507x522, 1332080011531.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	NESfag Tue Jul 30 07:15:15 2013 No.948517 I used a fake SNES controller for PC as a kid that I got with the PC version of Street Racer. It was very handy as I played all my NES emulation under Nesticle under DOS with it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 07:27:15 2013 No.948527
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It's horrible no one makes anything like these anymore. The original doesn't even work with modern Windows. This is by far the best controller for 6DOF shooters (Descent, Forsaken, etc) and probably the only controller I'd consider using for FPS games.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 08:43:16 2013 No.948624
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Just ordered one of these. It's a USB clone of the original Neo Geo controller, only it's in a six button layout instead of the original four. It's got an interesting sort of d-pad/joystick hybrid thing; clicky microswitches like a joystick but low to the controller like a d-pad.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 08:48:15 2013 No.948629
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>>948624
Also, of course, USB Sega Saturn controller. The first d-pad I ever really used a lot was the Genesis d-pad and everything else after it just feels like crap compared to it. These do a good job emulating it. Not the best build quality, but everything feels right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 14:54:41 2013 No.949248 File: 2.98 MB, 3700x2080, 88755848621.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] don't mind me, just posting a legendary controller

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:01:41 2013 No.949262
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>>948527

Seriously? Descent with THAT?!

I play descent keyboard only, as it was intended. The numpad gives the BEST control possible for the fastest possible reactions.

Descent is about dodging increasingly faster projectiles and i cant see a ball being accurate enough.

I guess id have to see it in action.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:04:12 2013 No.949270 >>949248 Fuck, as much as I love the SNES controller, the original ones always seem to have buttons wear out on me. I like the ones made by Asciiware better. The Genesis controller would have been superior if they started with the 6-button controller.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:05:11 2013 No.949276 >>949262 It can't have been intended, because barely any keyboards available at the time had sufficient rollover for proper triple-chording.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:05:41 2013 No.949274 What the fuck am I supposed to about getting a decent n64 controller? I'm in the market for a hori, but they're expensive and in Japan. Has anyone tried this fix? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEJmSQjONRg

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:10:11 2013 No.949285 >>949270 replace pads bro they become clickier, but you get used to it fast

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:12:41 2013 No.949290 >>949274 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-64-Hori-Style-Joystick-Replacement-New-Fast-Shipping-/151052557004?pt=US_Video_Game_Controllers&hash=item232b6f1acc

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:13:41 2013 No.949291 File: 23 KB, 300x242, prodimg1021lg8vy[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:14:42 2013 No.949295 >>949290 Except those are known to cause issues in several games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:16:42 2013 No.949302 >>949295 are you going by personal experience? or just what you've heard? cause i have one, and haven't had problems.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:18:41 2013 No.949312 >>949302 I'm going off video reviews and what I've read yes. I doubt there's a big conspiracy to lie about a product all around the internet.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:40:11 2013 No.949370

Has anybody tried the tomee n64 usb controller? The retrolink looks like garbage and I'm cuious about this one, it's difficult to find a working n64 controller where I live and buying the usb adapter would only increase the price, so I would like to know if you guys could give me csome ideas.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:44:41 2013 No.949383 File: 310 KB, 500x242, bowmanblink.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>948191 >tfw my Sidewinder broke I've got a Logitech Precision these days, it's a really nice controller. Feels like a really good PSX controller, has all the same buttons.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:47:42 2013 No.949392 File: 180 KB, 640x480, asdffdasd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this used to be my go-to controller on PC back in the day.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:50:11 2013 No.949398
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My friend bought Super Street Fighter II for PC and it came with this controller as a bonus. What a cheap feeling piece of crap!

The plastic was very thin, and the buttons were mushy and unresponsive.

But, it was the very first PC controller either of US had ever laid hands upon, and it served many, many hours of use playing through the expensive, hard to find, arcade, and import only titles that were emulated at the time. And the nice PC ports of some Neo Games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:54:11 2013 No.949408 >>948191 I still use the original 4-button w/L+R microsoft sidewinder on my xp laptop (win7 doesnt support it anymore so I use that laptop for emu) and love it. So smooth and it actually feels legit and not cheap fake chinese plastic.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:58:11 2013 No.949417
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After I got my own PC I bought a Saitek Cyborg force rumble Pad. It looked great in the store because it had a form factor somewhat like a PlayStation controller, and six face buttons. Ought to be perfect for fighting games, right?

Eh, it wasn't that great. It was kinda bulky, and the d-pad and buttons were ultra stiff. What is up with the PC and rock-hard controls?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 16:11:41 2013 No.949442 >>949398 i got that piece of crap with mega man x, funny seeing it again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 16:31:12 2013 No.949465 >>949392 I still have mine, although really busted. It doesn't look like it, but that D-Pad is fucking amazing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 16:33:41 2013 No.949475 >>948219 Xinput was a fucking jew move. It's nice that we have a universal layout now that simplifies a lot of things, but to completely abandon directinput just speaks volumes that they were just after the fucking money.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 16:35:04 2013 No.949480 >>949312 the internet has bandwagons. such as hating nickelback, liking bacon and nutella, etc. so yea, there is a possibility. as far as my experiences go, it works flawlessly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 16:40:11 2013 No.949487 >>949417 It also looks like it has those retarded square cutouts for the analog sticks like the logitech rumblepad does.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 17:14:12 2013 No.949554

>>949295
>>949290

The oversensitivity can be fixed with the Attiny24 chip fix. It's a little irritating and you have to somehow get someone to burn the chip for you with the code but it's certainly fixable.

I've been looking into it myself but my original sticks aren't fucked enough yet to justify bothering yet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 17:29:23 2013 No.949586 I had the USB version of the Sidewinder. I had it for years. I literally played it to death. I used it mainly for emulation. While the d-pad is kind of weird the controller is built like a tank and lasted me a long time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 17:29:23 2013 No.949587 >>949554 Yeah I was just reading about this as well. Seems a guy is taking preorders on nfggames that I might jump on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 17:29:53 2013 No.949591 >>949480 Wait, what's wrong with bacon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:06:07 2013 No.949659 File: 38 KB, 618x519, 9127398127389.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hace one of these. Pretty handy. >>949591 Bacon is disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:07:37 2013 No.949660 >>949659 Sorry, have*

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 21:37:33 2013 No.950059
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Along with the Famiclone in this thread >>949863 , I got a new controller during my Goodwill run today. The Gravis Eliminator Gamepad Pro (top). What looks like a D-Pad, is actually more of an analog pad, because you have that 360 degree movement like an analog stick, but it feels like a D-pad, so its insanely comfortable for games that utilize either/or an analog stick or a pad. Otherwise, control scheme is just like a PSX. Oh, and the grips have these little rubber strips surrounding them, making it comfortable to hold. Did I mention it was only $2?

Below is the controller I've been using on my modern PC. I'm OP, btw, using that Sidewinder on the retrogaming/emulation PC, which by the way I also saw a Goodwill today. I didn't pick it up because I forgot, I'll go back tomorrow. I doubt its going anywhere.

Anyway, below is the Logitech Rumblepad 1.
Its got the same d-pad as this one >>949392
which is too bad cause it sucks. Its also kinda big for my small hands.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 21:45:03 2013 No.950087 File: 23 KB, 236x236, Controller%20N64-Ultraracer-64-2T[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>948468 This one?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 21:55:04 2013 No.950112 >>950087 that should be called the Tony Soprano controller.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 22:15:31 2013 No.950164 >>950059 Goddamn, I love this new controller. Once I calibrated it, I suddenly became boss-tier at racing games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 22:36:01 2013 No.950205 File: 129 KB, 750x499, genesis_fighterstick_sg6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Always loved this controller, played all Genesis games with it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 22:37:01 2013 No.950208

>>949417
I had this bad boy for 10 years, was always reliable hardware wise even if the drivers didn't always jive with the games.

Sold it recently for $10, since I can just use my PS3 controller, but kind of regret it now. I had history with the thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 22:41:32 2013 No.950225 File: 3 KB, 180x180, distasteful.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>950087 I had this shit. It's supposed to be for racing, but nothing made your vidya experience worse.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 22:43:01 2013 No.950230 >>950205 Are these heavy enough to not slide around when placed on a table? Also, any input latency issues?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 22:44:31 2013 No.950234 File: 447 KB, 1280x960, misc1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I always gazed at the advertisements for real arcade sticks in the back of EGM and Gamepro. I could only dream.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 22:45:31 2013 No.950238 File: 440 KB, 1600x1600, Sega Genesis 6 Button Wireless Controller.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sega Genesis 6 Button Wireless Controller. Blew my mind when i saw this.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 22:49:31 2013 No.950251

>>950230
It's a very solid controller with a heavy steel base on the bottom with rubber feet, I think it would work well on a desk. No latency issues, don't know why one would think that. Only issue is the steel is not protected and may rust over time if contacts moisture.

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 02:09:47 2013 No.950675
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>>949291
Has anyone used a controller like this where it has a small joystick that screws into the d-pad? There's something appealing to me about having a joystick you use with your thumb, but you very rarely see them. (for good reason?)

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 02:18:47 2013 No.950690
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I believe the Sega Master System used controllers like that.

Also, the original Gravis Gamepad.
Ah, memories of that one with Jazz Jackrabbit.
I even had the T-shirt when you mail-ordered the CD version. I asked my dad, that T-shirt is gone forever. :(

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 02:26:17 2013 No.950703 >>950238 if that is yours then i am fucking jelly

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 02:27:17 2013 No.950704 >>950238 I wish the wired six-button controller was as large as this, the size is why I mostly play with the three-button controller.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 09:30:12 2013 No.953893 File: 140 KB, 640x307, vaultcontroller10sgb[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Interesting thing

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 09:40:23 2013 No.953914 >>953893 I am utterly unfamiliar with that peripheral. Information?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 09:51:54 2013 No.953930 >>953914 the slider in the center hints at a European peripheral? i've never seen it either though.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 10:41:55 2013 No.953992

>>949270
>I like the ones made by Asciiware better.
Of all the SNES controllers I've ever used, the only one I've ever encountered with a broken trigger was an AsciiPad. Plus its extra-slim, angled triggers just never felt right, even before one of the hinges broke.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 11:03:24 2013 No.954026

>>953914
>>953930
Never seen it before either, but apparently it's called a Super Game Boy Commander for use with the Super Gameboy cartridge converter thing on the SNES.
The mute-L and window-R buttons are actually the shoulder buttons moved to the face. The four buttons on the top row all do special Super Gameboy related things. The switch in the middle turns off the special Super Gameboy controls and turns it into a regular SNES controller, albeit with a weird layout. SFC stands for Super Famicom, so I believe it's more of a Japanese oriented controller? Dunno.

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Anonymous Thu Aug 1 11:28:54 2013 No.954053

>>954047
this buddy served me for almost 10 years, but recently it started losing connection at random! I screwed him open, cleaned out the dust and checked for damage, everything seems to be working. What else could i try to make him work again? Could the cord or the usb plug been damaged? Thanks for any help in advance

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 11:35:56 2013 No.954063 >>954053 I'd totally think it's the cable, yeah.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 13:46:55 2013 No.954284

>>949291
I played through FF7PC with this and still have it. Pretty bad. The chassis feels cheap and the d-pad and every button is mushy and creaky.

>>950205
I have this unopened. Is it worth using for Genesis shmups and the occasional fighting game?

>>950234
>MAS
Really like these guys. Their engineer is a smart guy who knows way more than just joysticks. And he would talk shop with you on the phone back in the day.

>>950238
>>950703
>>950704
Got a great deal on a used pair of these while on vacation. $5 total for both plus a music CD, and very clean!

>>950675
>>950690
I never used the stick, but I have the PC version of that controller (original Gravis). It's true crap. Recessed buttons with plastic in the middle so it's harder to chord them, horrible d-pad (same as on the later Gravis mentioned above), and pointless plastic bumps that dig into your skin and can give you callouses on your right thumb joints. Plus it's asymmetrical for no good reason (the actual reason is that it's designed to be usable upside-down by lefties). HATE it.

>>950059
>>954047
More examples of PC d-pads that are comfy but inaccurate for console emu use. And I really prefer circular (or even octagonal) restrictors to square, for both little analog sticks and full arcade sticks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 21:22:09 2013 No.955393 >>954284 >MAS Yes, I eventually bought a MAS stick when I was about 17. However, I talked to the guy's wife for about 30 minutes, and the whole time I could hear a crying baby and chickens in the background.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 04:10:26 2013 No.956436 >>954026 Yes, JAPAN only release. You can ebay them for around 50-75. Or they go for much less if you can get your ass to Japan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 12:56:58 2013 No.957214 >>950059 I had that wingman, shittyist dpad I have ever come across.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 13:00:58 2013 No.957230 >>957214 I have the 4-button, analogue-stickless version of that Wingman. I can still feel the discomfort of using that D-pad resonating in my thumb.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 10:25:50 2013 No.959847 >>954284 dual action dude here, you are right its not easy to unleash a shoryuken with this d-pad, also the analogs wont come in handy for something like this! can you pic me a good controller for emu use?

Anonymous Sat Aug 3 12:14:21 2013 No.960034

>>959847
Sure, but some of them are expensive.

(not strictly ranked, these are all pretty good)

1. NeoGeo Pad USB (micro-switch d-pad)
2. Sega Saturn USB made by SLS (not Play Sega or anyone else, just SLS)
3. Buffalo Super Famicom USB
4. Buffalo Famicom USB (actually has enough buttons for SNES)
5. Wii Classic Controller (Pro or non-Pro depending on your preference) with Mayflash adapter
6. Dual Shock 3
7. Logitech F series
8. Logitech Cordless Precision

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sat Aug 3 12:43:50 2013 No.960087 File: 332 KB, 1778x1333, PICT02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>950675

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sat Aug 3 12:50:20 2013 No.960103 File: 1.05 MB, 3121x1944, 9pin_pile-up.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Dumping a few photos of my controller collection, if anyone's interested. Most of them are retro. I have only a handful of modern ones.

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sat Aug 3 12:51:50 2013 No.960105 File: 681 KB, 3472x2604, PICT1290.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sat Aug 3 12:52:50 2013 No.960108 File: 200 KB, 1113x988, PICT001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sadly, I don't actually own a Mega PC.

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sat Aug 3 12:53:20 2013 No.960109 File: 501 KB, 1951x1328, Pict1732_comp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sat Aug 3 12:55:50 2013 No.960114 File: 237 KB, 1344x1325, PICT004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sat Aug 3 12:57:21 2013 No.960118 File: 110 KB, 688x724, PICT07.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is the "official" Turrican joystick. Naturally, the game is impossible to play with it.

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sat Aug 3 12:59:51 2013 No.960123 File: 352 KB, 2112x1182, 1622.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sat Aug 3 13:02:21 2013 No.960125 File: 1.21 MB, 1835x1545, bat1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Never leave the cave without it.

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sat Aug 3 13:03:50 2013 No.960127 File: 611 KB, 1483x1894, Pict1236.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sat Aug 3 13:05:20 2013 No.960134 File: 699 KB, 1592x904, PICT032.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My favorite arcade stick.

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sat Aug 3 13:07:20 2013 No.960139 File: 562 KB, 1838x1414, PICT004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And finally, three modern ones, just for the giggles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 13:23:20 2013 No.960163 >>950087 I have the playstation version of this controller. Actually had some fun with Gran Turismo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 13:24:50 2013 No.960164 >>960139 > NIGGA THEY ALL CHINESE

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 13:31:50 2013 No.960180 >>960087 1. HATE IT 2. HATE IT 3. HATE IT 4. HATE IT 5. HATE IT 6. HATE IT 7. HATE IT 8. HATE IT 9. HATE IT 10. HATE IT 11. HATE IT >>960105 HATE IT >>960134 HATE IT

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 13:34:20 2013 No.960181 >>960134 I'd love to play Darkstalkers with this.

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sat Aug 3 13:37:50 2013 No.960183 >>960180 They love you, though. Unconditionally.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 13:43:21 2013 No.960191 >>948191 I still have mine in my basement. Used to play the old shit emulators with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 14:01:52 2013 No.960220 >>960183 Is that why one of them tried to murder my one of my hands? see >>954284

Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sat Aug 3 14:10:21 2013 No.960240

>>960220
Oh, I see. Can't really agree with you, though. I love the Gravis PC pad and I still use it for DOS games and most of my simpler emulation needs, like NES, PCE, Mega Drive, etc., basically anything that doesn't require shoulder buttons.

However, I'm not a huge fan of those later models (the ones that imitated the Playstation design). I think that disc-shaped d-pad really does become uncomfortable when it's on a controller with handles.

Anonymous Sat Aug 3 14:13:52 2013 No.960252
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Gravis Xterminator Dual Control

This had to be one of the last breeds of mega-joysticks before the concept died out.

I bought it cheap for $30.

As far as the performance is concerned:
-The lack of twisting on the stick is a real buzzkill.
-The stick itself was on the loose side and there is no way to adjust the tension.
-The left-hand fingertip/knuckle button combo setup is nice in theory, but awful in practice. Flattening your hand meant the knuckle buttons would be mashed by accident constantly; clawing the hand meant they were too far out of reach for fast application.
-The thumb pilot hat is too loose.
-The software is atrocious (especially with the lack of profiles) and Gravis didn't support this thing for shit.

As far as gaming is concerned:
-The stick is too clumsy for platformers
-The lack of twist made it useless for Mechwarrior
-Flyers played okay

At least it looked cool on the desk.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 14:48:21 2013 No.960350 >>960240 You don't find the recessed buttons even a little annoying when chording them, for example during a b-dash jump in SMB on NES? Because I do, very much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 15:10:51 2013 No.960413 >>960034 thank you, what a great list! i wish i could touch them all to find the one pleasing me the most! i´m really a fan of the snes design, thinking about gettin adapters for the classic controllers, they are great.

Anonymous Sat Aug 3 15:54:22 2013 No.960486
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>>960252
In contrast, the Blackhawk was a sweet piece of kit with a heavy base, solid construction, and good buttons.

It was also cheap to boot. My only regret is that I didn't find the "Digital" version with extra buttons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 16:03:51 2013 No.960503 >>960114 it... it looks so sad...

Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sat Aug 3 18:47:22 2013 No.960846

>>960350
>You don't find the recessed buttons even a little annoying when chording them, for example during a b-dash jump in SMB on NES?
Honestly, I've never had any issues with the buttons. Pretty much my only (minor) complaint is the fact that the top of that screw-on joystick is unnecessarily deeply concave, which irritates my thumb after a while.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 18:54:52 2013 No.960859 >>960846 Aside from the top, how does the dpad thumbstick actually feel? Is it more precise than just having your thumb on the dpad? It's an interesting concept that you just don't see anymore.

Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sat Aug 3 19:10:21 2013 No.960920

>>960859
I've always felt like it was much more precise, though this may very well be simply due to familiarity. I still play most games with the joystick screwed on.

I have a few other gamepads that have the exact same gimmick, by the way, a few for PC and one for the SNES. Some of them have much better (read: convex) and thicker sticks, but they usually suck in some other regard, which is why I ultimately prefer the Gravis pad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 19:11:21 2013 No.960926 File: 73 KB, 793x800, Saturn_missionstick[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Imposing

Anonymous Sat Aug 3 19:11:21 2013 No.960929
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>>960503

It knows that it should not be.

Anyways, I fucking hate this piece of shit. Sharkpad Pro. Never fucking buy one. There's a space for a third "cheat" button in the case, but I have no idea what that might be. It's probably available on a more expensive version.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 20:14:21 2013 No.961062 File: 215 KB, 1024x683, NESMAX.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The best d-pad in history.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 22:41:23 2013 No.961409 >>960486 I used to have one of those. At one point, I ripped it apart. There are actually several small brass cylinders inside to weigh the thing down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 23:13:52 2013 No.961482 >>960926 The craziest part about that controller was that not only was it ambidextrous, but you could actually buy a second one, connect both sticks to one button pad, and have a double stick pad. I think only Panzer Dragoon worked with that, however..

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 23:15:23 2013 No.961485 >>961062 Oh god....I had 2 of those and they were the best.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 00:44:52 2013 No.961653 >>961062 I really disliked this controller.

Anonymous Sun Aug 4 01:03:22 2013 No.961696
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>>961409
I don't get how the Blackhawk can be so well engineered but the Xterminator is so cheap.

Also, the Phoenix. I've never actually seen a real megastick like this in real life. Does anybody have any experience with one these things?

Old PC gaming magazines used to sport ads for joysticks with enough buttons, hat switches, and other doodads to fly your own air craft and manage the air port at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 02:52:53 2013 No.962012 >>961696 it looks like an airport

Anonymous Sun Aug 4 11:30:23 2013 No.962641
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>>962012
Yeah, this was back before the day when things like ergonomics were even a concern for PC joystick design.

I don't think any of the Gravis controllers ever had force feedback, even the Xtreme (which was another letdown considering the original MSRP). OTOH, by the time force feedback finally started getting traction on the PC, the FPS rush took over PC gaming for a while.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 15:15:53 2013 No.963107 Got the controller in OP yesterday, and it's godly for fighters. Favorite controller at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 17:39:54 2013 No.963497 File: 19 KB, 400x300, 1[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think I'm gonna buy one of these.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 17:44:25 2013 No.963512 >>963497 Nah, don't do it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 18:02:24 2013 No.963565 This.. best controller adapter ever. http://www.ebay.com/itm/PS1-PS2-PSX-to-PC-USB-Dual-Controller-Adapter-Converter-/170854914674?pt=US_Video_Game_Cables_Adapters&hash=item27c7bf1a72

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 18:03:55 2013 No.963573 >>963565 Also, PSX controller is best. Enough buttons, but not bulky.

Anonymous Sun Aug 4 18:36:24 2013 No.963694

>>963497
Some people don't like the feel of the d-pad (that little joystick is unscrewable), but otherwise, its an okay controller.

But in this day and age, you're better off buying another PSX-layout controller, like the Logitech Precision Gamepad, which can be found for around $15 USD.

>>963565
These aren't too bad, but a lot of people complain about input latency, which really varies, depending on a number of factors, like your mobos USB ports, the length of the cable, and some other weird shit. If you're going to do shit on PC, best get a native controller for it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 18:39:54 2013 No.963712 >>963694 It's also creaky and shoddy. Feels nowhere near as well made as a Logitech.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 18:40:25 2013 No.963716 >>963565 But that's not the Mayflash dual adapter for Wii Classic Controllers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 18:49:54 2013 No.963739 >>960108 did they buy the rights to use the megadrive design or did they just rip it offf wholesale?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 18:54:54 2013 No.963749 >>963739 The Mega PC was licensed by Sega, so I'm sure they had permission. In fact, it is possible those may have been manufactured by Sega themselves.

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Sun Aug 4 18:58:24 2013 No.963760 >>963739 It's an official controller for the Mega PC, a collaboration between Sega and Amstrad. It was basically an Amstrad PC that could also play Mega Drive games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 05:12:25 2013 No.965207 File: 115 KB, 978x676, aWbHPWa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Still don't know what the point of this thing is

>>	electric paranoid !tBAZO9UhYU Mon Aug 5 05:24:25 2013 No.965227 >>965207 my guess would be macros. set a sequence of buttons, perfect combo every time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 05:28:56 2013 No.965241 >>965227 Yup, those 3 little buttons on the outside held the binds. Wanna do a fireball...program it in, mash single button to throw it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 05:30:56 2013 No.965246 File: 162 KB, 1200x1600, 1365495264956.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>963739 >>963749 BAM!

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 05:31:56 2013 No.965249 >>965207 I love that controller for one game. Final fantasy vi Saban blitz moves.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 05:34:25 2013 No.965259 File: 185 KB, 2019x615, MegaPC_Front.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>965246 rather*

Anonymous Mon Aug 5 05:38:25 2013 No.965271

>>949659
Used to have one of these before they added the PS2 plug, didn't like the feedback on the buttons. They were too hard.
>>963497
I remember seeing this in Best Buy and Circuit City all the time as a kid

Currently using some third party Xbox 360 controller with cooling fans on it. Before that I used a PS2/USB adapter, and before that I had a Gravis Eliminator that I loved but stopped working after a few months Probably my favorite and most comfortable gamepad ever

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 05:38:55 2013 No.965273 File: 12 KB, 300x300, Gravis-Eliminator-AfterShock-Rumble-Game-Pad-USB-G480311.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>965271 forgot image

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 10:33:27 2013 No.969014 File: 30 KB, 559x273, Super_Advantage_legal[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Doesn't look as cool as the NES Advantage

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Tue Aug 6 10:52:56 2013 No.969031 Since this thread is still alive, would anyone care for some more photos of my collection? I don't have any on this PC, but I could take some.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 11:06:26 2013 No.969046 File: 52 KB, 800x600, neo-geo-cd-controller-2k55-800[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>969031 Would be much appreciated

Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Tue Aug 6 11:49:57 2013 No.969115
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>>969046
Alright. Apologies in advance if any of the following are in fact Playstation 2 controllers and therefore technically not retro, but some of them were bought without the box, making it difficult to identify the intended system.

Anyway, from top left to bottom right: PS1, PS1, PS1, Gameport, USB, PS1

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Tue Aug 6 11:50:57 2013 No.969116 File: 294 KB, 1638x1188, PICT2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SNES, SNES, Gameport, PS1

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 11:53:57 2013 No.969121 >>969115 >>969116 Neat. If you'd like to take individual shots, the Retro Consoles Wiki could really use them.

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Tue Aug 6 11:53:57 2013 No.969124 File: 316 KB, 1680x948, PICT3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gameport, 9pin (Commodore, Amiga, old Atari, Mega Drive, Master System, etc.), Gameport, LPT1 (old PC printer interface), 9pin, 9pin

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Tue Aug 6 11:58:57 2013 No.969137 File: 536 KB, 1736x1302, PICT4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] PS1, Amstrad PC, unidentified (inverted 9pin), 9pin (Famiclone) >>969121 Sure, just tell me which one's you need.

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Tue Aug 6 12:00:26 2013 No.969145 File: 406 KB, 1736x1302, PICT5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 9pin, Gameport, PS1, SNES, 9pin, 9pin, Saturn, Apple II

Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Tue Aug 6 12:03:26 2013 No.969146
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Bort, 9pin, 9pin

That's it for now. Wish I could show more, but a large chunk of my collection (mostly Gameport, NES and Mega Drive stuff) is currently boxed away in the cellar.

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Tue Aug 6 12:07:26 2013 No.969154 File: 222 KB, 1629x1107, pic7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh, and my most recent addition, a Hori pad for the PS1.

Anonymous Tue Aug 6 16:26:56 2013 No.969742

>>969115
That orange gamepad came as a pack-in with a horrible PC game. I've passed it up in sealed box many times at a local shop for $3.

>>969124
>CH Products Mach III variant
I believe some version of this was my main Apple II joystick for a couple of weeks until I found and asked my mom to buy the last platinum-colored Apple brand stick in my state (or so it seemed), returning the CH stick to the store in the process.

>Slik Stik
Played many games of Streets of Rage with that one-button joystick as a second Genesis controller.

>>969137
>unidentified (inverted 9pin)
MSX.

Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Tue Aug 6 16:47:28 2013 No.969772

>>969742
>MSX.
Ah, thanks.

>That orange gamepad came as a pack-in with a horrible PC game.
Yeah, that's true, though I have to shamefully admit that I don't remember the title (I think it was a submarine game or some other type of simulation). I only kept the pad, which isn't that great to play with, but has a nice gimmick feature that enables you to use it as a mouse.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 16:54:57 2013 No.969785 >>949417 I had one of these Saitek fuckers. I loved the D pad on mine, it was floaty as fuck but it was pretty precise and had little travel. The analog cutouts were fucking shit though,

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 16:57:27 2013 No.969791 File: 76 KB, 491x463, 1375789629425.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>969154 >Mahjong controller for the PS1 I MUST HAVE IT.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 16:59:57 2013 No.969796 >>961062 Man, I liked mine. One problem was the travel on the little slide pad. But those buttons were goddamned awesome.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 17:01:57 2013 No.969797 >>963565 been looking into getting one. looks fragile and lacks analog button support but silly cheap.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 18:36:58 2013 No.970001 File: 51 KB, 881x660, IMG494.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] MAS(?) SuperStick for Genesis and SNES. Most solid stick I've ever owned.

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Tue Aug 6 18:40:57 2013 No.970018 >>970001 I just came a little.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 18:59:58 2013 No.970060 File: 8 KB, 195x256, tears.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>970001 Good god, that thing is just...

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 19:07:57 2013 No.970073 >>963716 ONLY THE ONE WITH THE XINPUT SWITCH

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 19:25:27 2013 No.970109 >>970001 Holy shit that's beautiful.

Anonymous Tue Aug 6 20:14:57 2013 No.970253
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Oh god I had a Genius Maxfire G-07 for the longest time. The clunkiest controller in existence. Nowadays I mostly use Gigatech Sa-500X for PC emulations and whatnot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 20:29:57 2013 No.970289 >>970253 I also had one of those. It was pretty ok most of the time. Except for anything that was not emulation, like it had a 50/50 chance of working. I still used it up until I broke the D-pad, can't say I miss it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 11:27:34 2013 No.971954 File: 26 KB, 600x426, pro-controller-u-wii-u-pc-retro-gaming-android[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] IT HURTS TO LIVE

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 11:31:04 2013 No.971965 File: 126 KB, 1600x1200, 1324529918864[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] resident evil

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 12:11:35 2013 No.972023 >>971954 Saw this at Gamestop...cringed SO hard.

Anonymous Wed Aug 7 14:24:35 2013 No.972289

>>948624
This just came in and the joystick thing is really fantastic. Great for fighters or anything else with 8 directions; it really is pretty close to having an arcade stick under your thumb. Not so great for anything that's 4 directions only, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 14:27:34 2013 No.972293 File: 23 KB, 600x351, tr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>971954

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 14:38:34 2013 No.972320 >>971965 This is tight, what's with the grips? They look like they're shaped differently. >>971954 I really don't mind the fusion. Buttons would be better in purple, how are the sticks?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 14:46:34 2013 No.972335 >>972320 The right side is trying to be shaped like a pistol grip (there's a trigger on the back) and the left side is just trying to be URGUNOMICLE but... doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 15:09:05 2013 No.972384 >>971954 >>972023 >>972293 I really like the concept, but on release I read a lot of complaints with the execution. >>972320 There is an American purple SNES version of the same controller also available. >>972335 >doesn't "It's trying but doesn't?" ;)

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 22:26:37 2013 No.973540 >>948191 Still have mine in my desk drawer next to me. Lost my shit when I found out I could use it for emulators.

Anonymous Wed Aug 7 23:29:06 2013 No.973767

>>971954
IMHO this is an admirable attempt at a controller, but it's still a complete mess. The body is using an XBox 360 form factor, which is fine, but then everything gets screwy.

360 Controllers have the left analog stick lower than the ABXY buttons. Not to mention the 360 ABXY buttons are in a different order (A is at the bottom, Y at the top). If I were to pick this controller up, my subconscious muscle memory (or whatever) would instantly (and incorrectly) associate the lowest button as A.

Also, why the analog sticks so far apart? Why is the D-Pad placed so far away from where your thumb would naturally rest? Why are is there two sets of Select and Start buttons? Why does it have PS player lights at the bottom? Are those built in speakers next to the analog sticks?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 23:59:06 2013 No.973852 >>973767 0.01/10, tried too hard

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 08:02:07 2013 No.974789 >>973852 Not trolling actually. I fully realize that the ABXY configuration is that of the SNES. That doesn't change the fact that the form factor is Xbox 360.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 14:50:38 2013 No.975503 File: 1.85 MB, 2960x2280, N64-Controller-Gray-Back[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] triggers on the back of the controller will never make a comeback 2sad

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 15:39:12 2013 No.975615 >>974789 0.001/10, I know what you're doing

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 16:46:37 2013 No.975758 >>971954 these things are great

Gravis Xterminator Dual control A strange person made of chees(...) Thu Aug 8 21:06:37 2013 No.976252

Hey guys, i have one of these gravis xterminator dual control joysticks. I have disassembled and repaired quite a few controllers, most of the time without replacement parts, but this xterminator needs new parts badly. Anyone know where i can buy parts for one of these joysticks? This would be kickass for FPS games if the buttons and axis ranges weren't all jittery and such from age...thanks!

P.S. Oh dear god, i hope this damn forum is still alive for the solution to come by!

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 21:15:38 2013 No.976278 File: 2.20 MB, 3780x2820, PlayStation-Analog-Joystick[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Using this thing for descent the first time was awesome.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 21:19:08 2013 No.976284 File: 16 KB, 434x398, xbox-360-wireless-controller-20050513052444515.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>975503 ?????

Anonymous Thu Aug 8 21:24:37 2013 No.976295
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I remember when my dad bought me this when I was a kid on clearance at sam's club. My favorite joystick of all time it served me well in descent freespace and mechwarrior.
It still sits on my desk despite not working with windows anymore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 21:25:07 2013 No.976301 >>976295 Fuck yeah, that joystick took me through many days of X-Wing/Tie fighter anniversary.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 21:28:37 2013 No.976306 >>976301 Yeah man, that thing was worth every penny. I wish they'd make a new one for win 7+.

Anonymous Thu Aug 8 21:48:38 2013 No.976335
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>>960103
I don't know what to make of this thing.
Part Scalextric controller, part sci-fi blaster. Reminds me of the 1989 Batwing toy, that I had as a kid.
Is that red plastic at the front, an IR for lightgun stuff?

Anonymous Thu Aug 8 22:01:37 2013 No.976359
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This is legitimately the worst controller I've ever used.

It is really awkward to hold, the d-pad feels awful, the analog stick is worst analog stick I've ever used, and the buttons feel awful. It's fucking terrible.

I honestly didn't think the N64 controller was that bad. But various manufacturers attempts at "fixing" it was just hilarious.

Also, why is it that so many controller manufactures can't make good d-pads? Why is it so hard? Why does everyone make mushy d-pads that barely move? Just copy the Genesis or the Saturn controllers d-pad or something.

Logitech makes some really good d-pads. Since they're basically just the same d-pad the Genesis controller had.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 22:12:07 2013 No.976386 >>976359 Fun Fact: Nintendo has a patent on their D-pad, and have legally forbidden everyone else from using it. Sony managed to get passed this by cropping an X out of the middle calling them D buttons instead.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 22:15:07 2013 No.976394 >>976386 patents don't last forever the dpad patent expired years ago

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 22:15:37 2013 No.976393 File: 495 KB, 1792x1344, ASCII Grip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Perfect for disabled gamers, and multi-taskers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 22:16:07 2013 No.976398 >>976393 I have this thing, it's awesome.

Anonymous Thu Aug 8 22:25:07 2013 No.976419

>>976386

Yeah, but I personally don't think either of their d-pads really hold a candle to Sega's.

Nintendo's and Sony's were great in the 4 basic directions, but diagonals always felt a bit awkward. The Genesis and Saturn d-pad are great in 8 directions.

I even find them really good for fighting games. Normal motions like quarter circles and shoryukens are nice and smooth.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 22:27:38 2013 No.976420 >>976419 I feel ya 8 notches for 8 directions

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 22:45:37 2013 No.976482 >>976393 That looks pretty rad. I'd want something like that for PC. I assume the X and O buttons are on the other side? Is it any good for platformers?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 23:05:07 2013 No.976553 >>976393 Damn, gotta hunt that down. That looks cool. Drink in one hand, controller in other!

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 23:08:08 2013 No.976574 >>976482 It's decent for anything basic, but it can get hectic playing games like Rayman, where you're sprinting, punching, and jumping. Turn based RPGs, point and click adventures, and shmups are fine though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 23:23:38 2013 No.976632 File: 351 KB, 512x384, 1375413445512.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>960103 Nice dildo collection

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 23:25:07 2013 No.976639 >>976632 lyl

Anonymous Thu Aug 8 23:29:37 2013 No.976656

>>949417

I have the P880 non rumble version, I can't believe I still have it. I don't even have my N64 anymore, but I still have this controller I probably used twice. Not bad for emulation and other assorted gaming, even after all of this time. Probably will never get rid of it, since I've learned my lesson about selling video game stuff... Dammit...

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 23:34:07 2013 No.976670 >>969145 That Energiser controller has to be one of the weirdest ones I've seen. Doesn't even look comfortable with all those buttons. What's that thing on the left, a blowdryer?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 23:53:37 2013 No.976719 >>969145 >that Energiser controller What the FUCK?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 00:07:08 2013 No.976741 File: 13 KB, 285x286, camofrog.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>950675 Anyone else ever used an actual screw as a joystick for one of these? 'Cause my dad did for playing a pac man port on his computer in the mid nineties.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 00:30:07 2013 No.976781 >>976284 I think >>975503 might consider that controller, the Dreamcast's, PS3's, etc. as on top of the controller, not on the back.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 00:37:07 2013 No.976792 >>976791 Whoops, sorry for not saging there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 00:37:38 2013 No.976791 File: 59 KB, 413x550, B0045FGET2.01.lg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>975503 Uh, what about the Wii?

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 00:47:37 2013 No.976810

>>976359
>Logitech makes some really good d-pads.
Subjective, of course. I find them slightly inaccurate and clicky, with unnecessarily long travel. Even pressing down on the center accepts a very deep press, which is odd.

>Since they're basically just the same d-pad the Genesis controller had.
In looks, but not in feel or construction. They are really quite different. Open them both up some time. I like Sega's more.

>>976419
Those of us who prefer Nintendo's d-pad learned with SF2 on the SNES. I always appreciated the low travel on them compared to Sega's, and diagonals were never a problem for me whatsoever.

>>976574
This, and the SFC equivalent, were designed and marketed primarily for use with RPGs (obviously).

>>976670
>>976719
>Energizer
You guys are misreading "Energiser," as in not the battery company.

>>976741
lol

>>976791
Good, I think that qualifies.

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 00:54:08 2013 No.976832

I'm using XBOX 360 wired controller for PC and after 3-5 minutes plugged, it'll have yellow blink / constant yellow color on the big center X buttons.

And after that blinky accident, I have to remove and plug it again, otherwise any button that I press doesn't have any effect on the Emulator.

Anyone else has this problem ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 01:50:08 2013 No.976939 File: 23 KB, 400x300, tumblr_lih1tvAmYp1qe2oq7o1_400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>975503

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 02:02:37 2013 No.976951 >>976939 >tumblr

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 02:04:07 2013 No.976954 >>976781 They are, but I think it's a moot point because you hold it the exact same damn way

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 02:05:37 2013 No.976956 >>976951 >implying google images cares where a picture comes from.

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 02:14:37 2013 No.976964

>>976810

That's actually why I like the Logitech d-pads. I hate d-pads that don't much and give very little feedback.

And obviously it's not the exact same d-pad that the Genesis has, but I was reminded of it when I first used my logitech controller. It certainly is within the same "style" of d-pad.

I guess it depends on what you grew up with. I played my Genesis a whole lot more than my SNES. Had I preferred the SNES, I'd probably prefer that type of d-pad.

Not saying it's bad or anything. There's certainly far worse out there.

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 02:25:07 2013 No.976979

>>976964
>I hate d-pads that don't much and give very little feedback.
I dislike that too, but the NES/SNES/N64 d-pad is my ideal. As you say, it depends on what you grew up with.

The reason I don't like long-travel d-pads as much is because they are naturally slower to respond and can lead to inaccuracy (or even accidental presses) due to springiness. Repeated presses in the same direction, like double or triple taps, feel very strange. They are comfy as heck, I'll give them that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 02:31:07 2013 No.976994 i loved that gamepad OP, fitted in my hands perfectly as if it was moulded personally for me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 02:32:37 2013 No.976995 >>970060 >sex

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 02:50:07 2013 No.977034 Never owned an early Nintendo console, do the d-pads on the NES and SNES feel anything like any of their handhelds?

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 03:03:08 2013 No.977049
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>>948191
I have the USB variant of this. It's nice except the DPad is completely unusable. Microsoft was cool back then. They released a whole line of controllers under the Sidewinder name and when USB became a thing they RELEASED ADAPTORS TO PLUG THEM INTO USB! I've also got a Sidewinder Precision Pro (Pic Related) and it is the best fucking flight stick I have ever used. It's Game Port with a USB adaptor so I can use it on my 98 machine too. Descent is fucking glorious with it. The stick rotates, and there are 9 buttons altogether: The trigger, 3 buttons at the top of the stick, 4 at the base, and one in front. Plus a 8 direction POV switch and throttle down there by the base of the stick.

I also own a Gravis flightstick too... Somethingbird? Ah whatever. It's a close second though it's pretty finicky.

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 03:19:07 2013 No.977065

>>977049
OP here, actually got this stick a couple days ago. Would take pic, but camera is not playing nice. Love the rudder and POV hat. I wonder why there are only 9 pins yet it is a DB-15 connector.?

I'm really surprised this thread lasted over a week! Good job, guys! Turned out to be a great thread.

Also its Gravis Firebird you're thinking of. Not to be confused with Gravis Blackhawk, another great one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 03:25:37 2013 No.977068 >>976832 here. >Controlled dropped on the floor a few minutes ago >R1 button isn't functional anymore Shitty controller won't buy Microsoft product again. My previous PS2 controller dropped on the floor at least 5 times and never has this problem.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 03:34:07 2013 No.977079 >>977065 >>977076 I was building a PC so I stuck the picture in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 03:58:08 2013 No.977105 Saturn has the best shoulder buttons, ergonomics, and face buttons but I think the d-pad could be better. I can't really think of any retro controller that is just top notch, but the best d-pad I've used would probably be the PS Vita's.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 04:12:38 2013 No.977135 >>977034 If you've felt the N64, it's very, very close to that (if not the same). Closest on the portables is the original GameBoy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 04:14:38 2013 No.977140 >>977105 >Saturn has the best shoulder buttons Interesting. I prefer the softness of the SNES and PS.

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 09:54:40 2013 No.977532
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>>977135
I believe the game boy pads were the same up until the GBA SP.

>>977065
Actually, it's called a Gravis Thunderbird. It's basically an older Blackhawk. Pic related.

Yeah, the 9 pins thing confused me too. I had bought mine at a rummage sale and the thing was very finicky at day 1 so I was worried the pins had fallen out. It works fine now.

Here's a little tip I found out the other day: If your joystick is a little jittery, the Wingman Team has a utility that hijacks the raw input and gives modified values for directinput. It lets you set dead zones and modify the maximum and minimum possible values for each axis.

I had no idea so many other people preferred directinput over Xinput! Fight the power!

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 09:58:39 2013 No.977537 >>948191 i remember playing some monster truck game with that controller. >MONSTER TRUCK MADNESS!

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 16:23:37 2013 No.978226

>>977532
>I believe the game boy pads were the same up until the GBA SP.
From memory (no consoles with me right now), GBP through GBA use the same type of d-pad as NES/SNES/N64, but smaller. Original GB d-pad was full-sized and identical to those of the home consoles. GCN was the first and only to adopt the GBP-sized d-pad, and Wii introduced a newer design that was softer to the touch but reminiscent of the NES in function, as well as fully-sized again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 17:25:09 2013 No.978380 >>969115 Bottom right is the best controller ever for the PS1 Wipeout games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 17:27:09 2013 No.978386 >>977537 It came with Motocross Madness, actually. I still have it. That said, I always thought the Sidewinder had an awful, awful d-pad. The motion sensing was neat, though.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 22:42:38 2013 No.979095 >>979082 I never understood what that thing in the center was supposed to be. What the heck is it?

>>	Da Nargus Centauri Hex Fri Aug 9 22:59:41 2013 No.979136 >>948246 When I went to my mates house as a kid and we played n64, he had to teach me how to hold the OEM controller properly. Oh how I wished I had more Sega friends

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 23:08:11 2013 No.979148

Back before USB was a thing, I remember seeing a controller that plugged into the PS/2 keyboard plug. It came in a gamepad layout and there was also an arcade stick model.

It was basically a keyboard emulator in controller form. The end of the cord plugged into the PS/2 port and then had a pass-through for your actual keyboard to plug into. The controller itself had a control pad (which mapped to the arrow keys), six buttons on the face (which I think mapped to "Enter" "PageUp" "PageDown" "Home" "End" "Insert" and "Delete"), two triggers on top (mapped to the "L" and "R" keys), and a Start button in the middle (mapped to "Enter").

Really basic stuff by today's standards, but it was one of the only non-Gravis means of getting a console pad on PC at the time. The neat thing about it was that, since it worked as a keyboard and mapped all the inputs to keyboard keys, it worked with every single game including the ones that didn't have controller support. Remember, this was before USB and OS-level input device management made things easy.

By the time it dawned on me how good this thing was, I couldn't find it again, and I never remembered the name of the controller or the company that made it. Never saw it again, and never managed to find anything on the Internet to prove that it ever existed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 23:12:11 2013 No.979151 >>979095 a dial

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 23:30:10 2013 No.979190 >>979151 Us this some kinda controller for racing games then?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 23:44:41 2013 No.979249 I like controllers more than the games you play them with

Anonymous Sat Aug 10 01:50:43 2013 No.979478

>>979079
The whole concept of that controller (and the NES Max) is flawed. With a d-pad you can press up-left without moving your thumb all the way to the upper-left, you just press the d-pad in that direction. With those, you do have to move your thumb there. Dumb.

Anonymous Sat Aug 10 02:30:12 2013 No.979543
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I never thought of myself as a controllophile until this thread. Wow.

>>979148

Hi I'm >>977532 and >>977049 and maybe I should start namefagging just for this thread.

This kind of controller really interests me. L and R seem like weird buttons to map to though, since most action buttons were closer to the right side of the keyboard. (A, S, D were popular for arcade-style games like Blackthorne and Z, X was nice for small games.) Guess they were hoping for the games to have mappable controls instead? Eh. I guess you couldn't complain since Arrow Keys + Space is broad enough.

Anonymous Sat Aug 10 16:15:43 2013 No.981137

>>963512
>>950675
>>976741
Well against my better judgement I have bought >>963497 (Gravis Gamepad Pro) and the reviews are in, as that thumb joystick was just too interesting to pass up.

First of all it isn't very comfortable because it's like a too small DualShock controller. Face buttons have a little too much travel, but the shoulder buttons are nice and clicky.

Interesting part is the d pad though. It's strange because it feels sort of soft and mushy like a Playstation d pad, but with much more pronounced feedback from the notches where the d pad settles in. Also it seems like notches for the diagonals are easier to land in than the cardinal directions, which is annoying.
The stick actually does give you quite a bit more control, and it is comfortable to use. I thought it would be too awkward having my thumb up that high but it isn't. Your thumb does want to slip off though, might have to modify it somehow so it doesn't do that. Also the screw inside the joystick is made of plastic, which might be one reason why the joystick is actually kind of hard to find, either it breaks or people lose it.

TL;DR because no one cares, don't recommend this controller in particular but the screw in thumb joystick makes it too interesting and fun to pass up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 16:53:44 2013 No.981261 >>981137 warned ya! >>963512 >>954284

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 17:22:46 2013 No.981339 >>981261 No regrets Unless I found a USB Master System controller with the screw in stick, or a cheap adapter + controller. Then I regret everything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 19:00:16 2013 No.981629 ...This may seem like a silly question, but how do you guys store your controllers? I've got wires and controllers all over the place, and they're all too awkwardly shaped and of different sizes for anything I try to put them in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 19:18:20 2013 No.981669 >>981629 I just put em all in a cardboard box.

Anonymous Sat Aug 10 19:47:50 2013 No.981743
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>>979079
>>979478
When we were kids, my cousin had the NES version of the Turbo Touch 360. He liked it and actually played games very well with it, though I didn't care for it. I used to have a NES Max but it was the only controller I actually broke when I was a kid because I threw it across the room.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 19:50:21 2013 No.981749 >>981629 I just keep them in a box.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 20:37:01 2013 No.981843 >>981629 I went to the dollar store, bought a bag of rubber bands, and tied off the cords and store them inside of an empty drawer

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 20:45:01 2013 No.981861 >>960103 go to bed, ashens

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 22:11:31 2013 No.982085 >>981743 had this for SNES and I HATED it! Couldnt play MK3 or SF2 correctly

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 22:17:01 2013 No.982098 >>979079 I have one of these, it's such a piece of shit. Can't even play Mario with it because the buttons are fucked.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 13:04:17 2013 No.983490 Are there any good fighting game style controllers for PC?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 20:59:19 2013 No.984464 >>983490 You can use any that are for the consoles on the pc with a adapter.

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