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Best way to play this?

>> No.9442697

not at all

>> No.9442698

>>9442695
Dolphin emulator, gamecube version, 4k texture packs

>> No.9442702

>>9442695
What do you mean? The original or the 3DS remake? I'd go with the original for your first playthrough

>> No.9442706

>>9442695
uncensored v1.0 N64 rom on Mupen64Plus-Next core in RetroArch with ParaLLEl RDP and RSP plugins
or RMG (Rosalie's Mupen GUI) if you don't want to use RetroArch

or play the Ship of Harkinian PC port if you want 60 fps widescreen and some other options, however it had some bugged animations last I checked

>> No.9442750

>>9442695
Ship of Harkinian

>> No.9442760

>>9442697
/Thread

>> No.9442769

>>9442695
The best way to play this is to plug it into your N64 and pick up the controller. This will require you to put down your phone and stop making shitty pointless “Tell me how to have fun” threads.

>> No.9442771

>>9442695
per usual crt + N64 is best, using the original controller improves things.
if you have to emulate, i'd recommend playing at original resolution, 640x480 like on the gamecube looks worse

>> No.9442781

>>9442771
> using the original controller improves things
Anon...

>> No.9442785

>>9442695
3ds, tho the original is still fun

>> No.9442792

>>9442781
emulator users always complain about the target mini games, it's ez with an N64 controller because the game's controls were designed for that input device

>> No.9443003

>>9442750
Why this randomizator still contains the game?

>> No.9443012

>>9442769
Lol n64 shit resolutions lol no ty n64 fags are the worst. I grew up with it too so dont pull that shit on me saying it holds up graphically

>> No.9443016

>>9442769
the n64 is a pretty shitty way to play ocarina of time you faggot, op should play the gc version

>> No.9443019

>>9442695
With your hands.

>> No.9443025

>>9442792
They were worse with the N64 joystick. Ask how I know you're a zoomer.

>> No.9443050

>>9442792
Have never played OoT on an actual N64 but both on the GC and Project64 this shit was a nightmare

>> No.9443063

>>9443050
It's bad no matter what, he's coping. Once Ship of Harkinian gets mouse look there's going to be tons of hardwarefag tears.

>> No.9443080

>>9443063
I remember when I got to play the 3DS remake for the first time, it had gyro aiming and even this was 100 times easier. I'd imagine it's awesome with the mouse. Like playing the PC ports of RE4 and Killer7

>> No.9443443

Ship of Harkinian > 3DS > Wii VC on CRT > original on CRT > Wii VC > Original > Wii U VC > Switch Online

>> No.9443783

I like how impossibly hard the aiming challenges are. Was sad that majora had no more after the swamp

>> No.9443793

>>9443783
they're easy on real hardware with an OEM controller that's in good condition

>> No.9443796

>>9443793
>zoomer comes back to try and force this meme again
The N64 controller is one of the worst joysticks I have ever used and it was my childhood console. You're fooling nobody, zoom-zoom, least of all anybody who actually experienced the 90s.

>> No.9443801

>>9442695
Go back in time and play as a kid

>> No.9443805

>>9442695
PC port.
>>9442706
All the extra shit like 60 fps and widescreen are optional. You can set it to look like just an n64 emulator (or an actual n64) but still get better performance and less resources being hogged.

>> No.9443819

>>9443783
It’s actually pretty interesting how you will inevitably get better and better at a rapid rate by just playing through the game. By the end of the game I was raping those mini games. The one that really broke my ass was training Epona, not just because it was fucking hard but also because it was fucking useless.

>> No.9443823

>>9443796
The N64 joystick has a pretty different feel to most other joysticks. It was a shitty design in that it pretty much used plastic-on-plastic friction to create resistance and wore down over time and were hell on people's thumbs, but the point is it had a different tactility to it. It's not that it's a better controller, it's that N64 games were designed to be played with the N64 controller. Funny, that.

>> No.9443828

>>9443823
>it's not that it was shit, it was that it was shit that made all these generic FPS segments good
No, zoomer, you're coping. A mouse is going to win over the best controller FPS setup, much less the N64's absolutely garbage joystick.

>> No.9443845

>>9443828
>noooooo
>developers can't just alter dead zone and aim sensitivity according to controller specs, everyone is just stupidly mapping x/y floats to deltas at random
Weak bait by a midwit riding the contrarianism curve.
>nooooooo too many people are saying "thing", it's not possible that this comes from a source of authenticity, because that means I won't be able to one up them with my super secret special knowledge that everyone is stupid but me

>> No.9443856

>>9443845
>bait
>midwit
>contrarianism
>basedjak speak
All you did was confirm your zoomer status, anon, and it's frankly embarrassing for you.

>> No.9443860

>>9443025
you can't beat those mini games after 20 years? ask how I know you're a zoomer.

>> No.9443872

>>9443443
What about the GameCube version?

>>9443783
That's a recurring problem with N64 games.
The N64 controller has a huge pivot that modern controllers do not, even the GameCube controller's analogue has a drastically smaller pivot.
The result of that is you have far less range for finer movements, and N64 emulation gets this wrong all the time. There's no compensation for it, like an exponential curve.

>> No.9443885

>>9442695
with PC port you automatically bypass all the absolute annoying shit that comes with the N64 and its emulation like lag, glitches, popping sound.

>> No.9443896

>>9443885
Yeah, and you can turn on all the enhancements and QoL changes you want, or keep it pure vanilla.
You can even keep 20 FPS gameplay if you want, really 1:1.

>> No.9443910

>>9443896

What about a CRT filter? To play with a good one you would have to go through retroarch, otherwise it would look nothing like how zelda is supposed to look

>> No.9443919

>>9443872
>what about the GameCube version

I played the one that also comes with Master Quest and I didn’t have any problems with it. The controls were kind of finicky but I imagine it’s basically the same on original hardware. I also managed to complete all of the shooting mini games without feeling like the difficulty was due to the controller rather than my own incompetence. I’m currently playing the GCN version of Majora’s Mask (which also comes with OoT), and it controls about the same.

>> No.9443923

>>9443910
On Windows it uses Direct3D11.
That means you can just hook Reshade into it, and set up crt-royale just like you would with Retroarch.

https://reshade.me/
https://reshade.me/forum/shader-presentation/6985-introducing-crt-royale-for-reshade

Actually, I'll try setting this up myself now and see how it looks.

>> No.9443939

>>9443923
nice bro, I'm going to plug an s-video cable into my crt and call it a day

>> No.9443945

>>9442695
on a crt with the actual system
i have two n64
one with the expansion pak
and one without
for autism

>> No.9443998
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>>9443939
I don't got a CRT with a hookup handy, like a lot of people.
I'm not one for CRT filters personally, I prefer stuff like Blargg's NTSC filter; reproducing the signal going to the TV, rather than the TV display.

In any case I did get Reshade + CRT Royale working with Ship of Harkinian, and tweaks the presets from non-default.
I find it pretty harsh to look at even on a good 4K display.
The underlying image is native 4K but the shader masks the image, and I think is supposed to produce a phosphor glow effect but I'm not really seeing it.
Still, this is only really scratching the surface of what Reshade can do if I really wanted to put more time into it.

>> No.9444046

>>9443998
Yeah reshade lets you do a lot of shit.
Even on non retro games you can use it to mess with colors and shading. Just be careful because some online games will flag it as a cheat engine.

>> No.9444063

>>9443885
It has very questionable controls because modern gamepads are different and instead of reworking it to the usual quickselect-action button scheme they just added more workarounds. I had to remap the arrow buttons to the d-pad because of false activation with the right stick and it worked somehow but was far from the best. Also the key remapping dialog came straight form an emulator.

>> No.9444085

I'm 100%ing the gamecube version right now because I have nothing to play, and I remember years ago I started to do the same thing but gave up and dropped it after trying to get the quiver upgrade in Gerudo Valley and just rage quitting. I've been dreading getting to that point again and this thread hasn't helped.

>> No.9444110

>>9443796
Never had a problem as a kid and I still use it up to this day

https://n64squid.com/n64-joystick-360-degrees/

>> No.9444139
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>>9442695
Took this from actual N64 rgb modded hooked to a SONY 29" CRT

>> No.9444145

>>9444085
The quiver upgrade isn't that bad, it doesn't demand perfection, though there is a non-essential reward for a perfect score.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJb6jPc5tpg

>> No.9444341

>>9443443
>>9442695
God Tier:
Non-censored on an N64 + CRT
Good Tier:
Censored on an N64 + CRT
Retard tier:
Everything else

>> No.9444351

>>9442695
wii/wii u hacked virtual console. no contest.

>> No.9444358

>>9444341
>God Tier:
>Non-censored on an N64 + CRT
Thank God I still have my pre-ordered launch gold copy with the Muslim chanting, the crescent moon on the mirror shield and Ganon spitting up red blood and didn't sell it like a lot of morons did.

>> No.9444439

Regardless of whether you think it deserves the acclaim or not, OoT is like top 5 most revered video games of all time. Why the fuck is still there no (official) >20fps version that isn't locked to a dead handheld?

>> No.9444447

>>9443872
>What about the GameCube version?
right below original in all cases because it's just a decent emulation of the N64 version with some issues.

>> No.9444512

>>9444447
the increase in resolution is too big of a deal, on crt it looks excellent

>> No.9444814

>>9443025
Maybe if you're playing on a destroyed analog stick.

>> No.9444968

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5138/

>> No.9444972

>>9442695
PC port
Anyone else saying otherwise ITT is full of shit

>> No.9445695

>>9444439
Because Nintendo hasnt ported it yet. They'll wait tell the next big zelda anniversary and port it, mm3d, and an HD version of the LA remake. $80 with no changes to the actual games but upscaling.

>> No.9445753

>>9444439
>Why the fuck is still there no (official) >20fps version that isn't locked to a dead handheld?
Because you should buy a subscription for their online service and get your 20FPS version as a reward

>> No.9445820

>>9444085
All aiming segments are very easy in OoT. I did them easily as a kid on the N64, did them easy emulating with first a logitech PS1 ripoff, then a real n64 controller. Now I'm playing the OoT PC port at 144fps and it was extremely easy with my Switch Pro controller (Did not use gyro). You need to have a minds eye of where your arrow or sling will go, almost like an invisible crosshair. Once you have that you should be able to hit a bullseye 9/10 times.

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>>9443998
While I don't personally use them, I can let all the filter effects slide except the bowing.
If your picture bowed or was otherwise warped, your set was miscalibrated. I don't think I ever even saw anyone's set like that in person and I lived through that era.
If it didn't come correct from the factory, it took all of 2 seconds to fiddle with the nobs or and OSD if you're fancy.
It reminds me of how kids today think VHS tapes all looked like they had decades of ware on them, when they were new.
You can say that games were designed for pixel bleeding, etc. but I'm pretty sure nobody ever intended for their games to be played on a bowed screen on purpose.

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9445841

>>9445835
Posted the wrong one. Same thing but more obvious.
Bonus video of another old man making the same complaint. For any other fellow autists.
https://a.pomf.cat/uqzwdw.mp4

>> No.9445872

>>9445841
Ah, it's not bowing that it's trying to replicate.
It's screen curvature, the rounded surface of the CRT display.
Some models would have part of the edges that "fade out" or may have something partially obscuring it, if we're talking old family TV sets.

>> No.9445874

>>9444358
>Thank God I still have my pre-ordered launch gold copy with the Muslim chanting, the crescent moon on the mirror shield and Ganon spitting up red blood
Same here

>> No.9446107

>>9445841
based gerstmann