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Is it just me or is this game, especially the Japanese version, 100 times harder than Mario World? Even during the first few worlds. And then there are worlds 7 and 8 that are just insane

>> No.9438037

Mario World is definitely the easiest Mario game, /vr/ or modern.

>> No.9438084

>>9438037
As far as /vr/ Mario games go, SML2 is the easiest I think

>> No.9438086

>>9438009
yeah, there's like, so much going on in this game.

>> No.9438089

>>9438084
sml2 probably wouldn't give me any trouble as an adult but as a kid the gameover was soulcrushing, had to repeat all those bosses about 20 times on wario's castle.

>> No.9438096

the arcade design of smb1-3 is inherently more difficult than anything they had going on post famicom

>> No.9438106

>>9438084
yeah I played SML2 for the first time a few years ago and it was very short and easy. only died a few times, if at all, I don't even remember having any trouble

>> No.9438110

>>9438106
>only died a few times, if at all
If you didn't die on the last stage during your very first blind playthrough then you are very good at video games

>> No.9438118

>>9438110
I probably did, I suck at games, but I guess I forgot. I was still surprised how short and simple the game was. SML1 was hard as fuck, only beat that with save states

>> No.9438126

>>9438118
>SML1 was hard as fuck
This game has the second loop

>> No.9438167

>>9438118
I'm going to assume you meant SMB1, but SMB2 is still harder due to lack of continues.

>> No.9438170

>>9438167
And I fucked up reading the chain. SML1 is piss easy.

>> No.9438173

>>9438167
SMB2 does give you 2 continues though

>> No.9438176

>>9438173
True, but not unlimited like the other NES Marios.

>> No.9438181

>>9438009
Difference is, mario 3 has short but dense levels, while mario world has long but sparse levels, 3 doesn't have any checkpoints while world has. Not to mention with yoshi you can tank any hits and with cape you can just fly over 97% of the levels, which is easy as there are lots of space to get into full speed and theres rarely anything to stop you in the skies, 3 is opposite and you can only fly for short period of time while having to mash A too.

>> No.9438191
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9438191

>>9438037
Maybe if you only count getting to Bowser's castle, but if you count the Special World, it has some levels that are Lost Levels-tier.

>> No.9438198

>>9438176
You're misremembering things anon, the original SMB1 didn't have continues at all. That's why it's such a pain in the ass. It's hard to earn lives and losing a powerup just once during the later stages can result in literally everything going wrong and you getting a game over. Luckily the SNES remake did away with this

>> No.9438206

>>9438191
They are still better than SMB3's world 8 and some of the stages from world 7. I swear this shit is almost Kaizo-tier. Like you have 99 lives when you get to those stages and by the time you get to Koopa you're at 30 something

>> No.9438231

>>9438198
>the original SMB1 didn't have continues at all.
it does, you just have to hold A while pressing start at title screen after game over, it does take you back to first level of the world though.

>> No.9438241

>>9438206
I dunno, I think they're equally hard, more or less. As another anon said, 3's levels are pretty short.
Doing Outrageous as small Mario-only is really fucking hard, that levels keeps getting crazier as it goes. The only thing that makes it not as hard is the fact you can have Yoshi and an extra item, but then again in 3 you can hoard a few P-wings.

>> No.9438259

>>9438231
Oh, right. But to be honest I still don't know if Shiggy and co wanted you to use this. I mean, if it's in the manual then probably, maybe they just couldn't implement a proper continue system due to SMB1 being an early 'big' FC/NES game

>> No.9438272

>>9438259
if they didn't then they wouldn't have put it in in the first place. Besides a lot of old games had weird shit in them to sell magazines, guides etc or to make the games longer than they really are.

>> No.9438331

>>9438096
Thank you Professor Dipshit, weighing in with the gayest opinion in the universe.

>> No.9438542

>>9438009
They're both easy, but it's harder to get everything in SMW, especially due to the Special levels. I've played 3 in both the international and Japanese versions, neither were particularly hard.

>> No.9438548

>>9438009
you don't get two hits with fire flower and up in JP version, is always straight to small mario. So yes, it is harder

>> No.9438567

>>9438542
Only one of the special levels is difficult, can't remember which one. Meanwhile SMB3 World 8 is merciless, and is clearly the part where everyone uses their stored up P-Wings. Also you actually have to beat World 8.

>> No.9438576

>>9438542
>They're both easy
Well they might not be very hard but easy? Fuck no. I get that SMB3 is a Mario game therefore we are supposed to pretend that it can't be challenging but come on

>> No.9438578

>>9438576
Nothing in SMW is harder than World 8.

>> No.9438582

>>9438578
And to add to this, if P-Wings didn't exist, 95% of people who beat SMB3 didn't actually beat it.

>> No.9438587

>>9438578
>>9438582
Oh yeah I absolutely agree. I was just saying that both games (or at least SMB3) are far from being easy

>> No.9438605

>>9438576
I meant they're easy compared to other NES and SNES games. Compare SMB3 to Ninja Gaiden 3 or SMW to Contra 3, they will definitely look easy in comparison. For me both were fine in difficulty.

>> No.9438628

>>9438605
Which SNES games are harder, aside from memes like Hagane?

>> No.9438646

>>9438605
Ninja Gaiden 3 is easy as shit if you play the good version not the one made for the US rental stores. Actually, for me personally SMB3 is harder than all Ninja Gaidens, Castlevanias and Mega Mans on the system

>> No.9438649

>>9438646
>SMB3 is harder than all Ninja Gaidens, Castlevanias and Mega Mans on the system
There's no way. I've literally thrown in the towel of defeat with the hallway to Death/Death himself. Even if you ignore P-Wings, that's just absurd.

>> No.9438671

>>9438649
Why not just use the holy water? CV1 is easier than both versions of CV3

>> No.9438676

>>9438671
You have to survive the entire level to spam Holy Water. The dreaded hallway prevents that.

>> No.9438701

>>9438676
They key is to always move forward and whip the shit out of the knights. When you see a medusa head just jump forward and never stop whipping. When you advance the knights always retreat so don't worry about getting hit by their bodies and your whip should take care of their axes as long as you don't stop mashing the attack button. Stage 4 is much worse than Stage 5, if you can beat Frankenstein and his little buddy then you can beat the game

>> No.9438705

>>9438701
Regardless, it's absolutely absurd to assert that SMB3 is as hard. You don't need strategies like this to beat SMB3.

>> No.9438731

>>9438705
I guess it's just me then, I always struggle with 2D Mario platformers. I love them a lot so it's not like 'they're not for me', I can beat them but I just can't get good for the life of me. Well, except for SMB1 because it practically forces you to get good to be able to beat it as you can't farm lives

>> No.9438801

>>9438731
SMB1 has a continue code. You're just a retard. Here's your (You), prostitute.

>> No.9438814

>>9438801
Rude.

>> No.9438826

>>9438801
Literally no one knew about the fucking code. I've never even seen people on the Internet claim that they use it, everyone takes the fact that SMB1 doesn't have any continues for granted. You play the game, get a game over, are sent back to the title screen, start over.
>https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/pdf/CLV-P-NAAAE.pdf
Where's the code?

>> No.9438835

>>9438826
Nigger, that isn't even the most esoteric way to continue. There are infinite lives tricks that even work in SMB2J.

>> No.9438836

>>9438835
It's easier to get good than pulling off that shit

>> No.9438843

>>9438836
It factually isn't. That's why the prodigy who beat the game for Arino did the trick.

>> No.9439007
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9439007

Behold! The hardest Mario boss ever

>> No.9439408

>>9439007
>die against koopaling
>have to redo the entire slow autoscrolling airship

>> No.9439431

>>9438191
This, 3 is easier apart from star world. Lost levels is a treasure.

>> No.9439446

the japanese version is different?

>> No.9439468

>>9438037
New super mario bros is so much easier

>> No.9439693

>>9438826
I knew about it as a kid in Canada. My father knew about it and he didn't really play games. It wasn't secret.

>> No.9439695

>>9439468
Yep, and honestly I prefer it to the older games.

>> No.9439809

>>9439693
The rare based Canadian. Show True Doe that you aren't just cattle.

>> No.9439953

>>9438009
YES

>> No.9440023

>>9438578
Outrageous is.

>> No.9440079

>>9438009
>100 times harder than Mario World?
SMW has very mild challenge. SMB3 while far from being the hardest thing out there actually requires you to apply yourself.

SMB > SMW

>> No.9440962

Just got done replaying SMW right after SMB3. The worst levels are the special-4 and special-7 but overall the game is very easy compared to the original trilogy. If anything I didn't use the cape to fly through levels

>> No.9441485

>>9438331
He's right though, and your face is ugly.

>> No.9441685
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9441685

>>9439007
This bastard was as far as I got as a kid. (Not counting the double-warp whistle trick, which only got me as far as 8-Airship.)

>> No.9441691

>>9439446
You go straight to small Mario instead of super Mario if you get hit with a power up in the Japanese version.

>> No.9441695

>>9438009
Well, yeah. SMW was always a bit more forgiving than 3. SMW's still my favorite, though.