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[Anonymous No.9408287]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>9397408

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more):
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives:
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series:
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
Doom 3 Resurrection of Evil:
https://mega.nz/file/BzxyGBBZ#cHtxsid-0wpeFltrPAYCStiwYCXshndXUCfOEXSP7gs
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://rentry.org/8ca3061522e0

[Anonymous No.9408294]

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
UNRATTLED
Deadline: November 28th
Rules: >>9384165 (Cross-thread)
Texture Pack: https://files.catbox.moe/ypj8oo.zip

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
AD MORTEM PHASE 2
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125461

94 PROTONS OF /vr/
Beta 0.8 release
https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA

=== NEWS ===
[11-6] Wormwood gets new final chapter
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132293

[11-5] Nirvana interviews Sandy Petersen
[YouTube] An Evening with Nirvana [Episode 20 - Sandy Petersen] (embed)

[11-5] GZDoom 4.9.0 released
https://github.com/ZDoom/gzdoom/releases/tag/g4.9.0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=76741

[11-5] Divergence, a 2-map long Heretic wad.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132276-divergenceheretic-2-maps/

[11-3] DF-21.net is hosting a Star Wars: Dark Forces level contest for the month of November with a prize.
https://df-21.net/?post=63

[11-2] DBP53: Plutonian Sunrise, released.
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2998

[11-1] Colorful hell updated to 0.99
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1231269#p1231269

[10-28] Doom 64: Ethereal Breakdown is out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132113

[10-22] Infested episode 2 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=76655

[10-22] Slooter dev cancels development
https://buxomdev.itch.io/slooter/devlog/437072/end-of-development

[10-18] Latest Doom Unity addon: Harmony
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1582413888532156416 (embed)

[10-17] Perfect Dark is now 100% decompiled and recompiled
https://twitter.com/Graslu00/status/1581744350249521153 (embed)

[10-14] Corruption Cards updated to 4.2
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=67939

[10-11] First anniversary of REKKR: Sunken Land
https://twitter.com/RevaeRavus/status/1579872132447600641 (embed)

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

[Anonymous No.9408310]

[Anonymous No.9408323]

>>9408310
Boy I hope you're not too attached that super punch buff you get after landing enough punches, and the Double Lariat, because I stripped both of those out.

[ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs No.9408325]

VIOLENT RUMBLE 2 ANCHOR POST: LATE AND GAY EDITION

VR Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ

Stick to the loose files in the 'vr' folder for working on the project. You don't need the QuakeC source files unless you want to contribute code. When there is an update, sort files by date modified so that you aren't constantly re-downloading everything.

LAST UPDATE: >>9363335

Work on shotgun flame shells is commencing and I'll have stuff to show off soon.
My Malice map is going on the backburner since there's no way I'll get it out in time for the anniversary with the autistic scope I've set for it. I'll come back to it after VR2 is done.

[Anonymous No.9408331]

>>9408294
KDiKDiZD released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132407-knee-deep-in-kdizd-released-its-kdizd-for-doom2exe/

[Anonymous No.9408339]

>>9408331
Holy shit! I thought this died years ago, but now it's here!

[Anonymous No.9408341]

>>9408323
Uh oh. What does he get in return?

[Anonymous No.9408343]

>>9408323
That'll be neat, I'll still have a blast getting in the thick of things.

[Anonymous No.9408348]

>>9408343
Blaz's swole arms makes me think of picrel with all the manlet posting associated with him

[Anonymous No.9408354]

[Anonymous No.9408393]

>>9408341
For the fists? Nothing else, it'll just be a good punch combo that can interrupt monsters. Though I might make the uppercut send enemies skyward because it'd be funny.
I'm also gonna see if I can make the chain grab the sword.

[Anonymous No.9408413]

[Anonymous No.9408418]

>>9408393
Ah, does it still have the defense bonus?

[Anonymous No.9408420]

>>9408418
Nah, I stripped that out for consistency's sake. If I bring it back it'll just be a flat defense boost at all times while you're unarmed, but that's IF I bring it back. Right now the fists are kind of a step down from being armed with the sword, but I think this might be for the best.

[Anonymous No.9408429]

This confuses the zoomie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYjlCRQ03gM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOZuNNI9XZ0

[Anonymous No.9408430]

Speaking of the chain. I'm trying an actual animation for it.

[Anonymous No.9408434]

>>9408429
are you shilling this?

anyway yeah the additions to e1m1 was romero trying to optimize it for DM

[Anonymous No.9408449]

>>9408294 i forgot to link the op in the previous thread so i am shamelessly reposting my map: Stellar Sarcophagus, a fairly long and somewhat non-linear map. Thanks to the feedback of one kind anon I've fixed a variety of small errors and also dramatically revised the final encounter
https://mega.nz/file/4mYygYSK#P9vpKwOK9QY6QHplQXCsiK3RPWp3qiPMv_V01Nnezpo

[Anonymous No.9408462]

>can't use the numpad to enter values into different fields like entity properties or the tools window
>mouse has to stay inside the window/box the field is in for your input to properly register
you guys are going to have a field day with the serious editor once I finish my guide

[Anonymous No.9408491]

any mods or games prominently featuring rats?

[Anonymous No.9408513]

>>9408331
>works in vanilla but not in GZDoom
Chicken and GZfags on suicide watch again

[Anonymous No.9408521]

>>9408491
RAT
https://www.moddb.com/mods/rat-doom/downloads/rat

[Anonymous No.9408539]

GZDoom is le bad

[Anonymous No.9408541]

>>9408491
>Blood
>Malice
>SiN
>TekWar
>Deus Ex
>Thief 2

[Anonymous No.9408545]

>>9408521
>>9408541
Thanks friends. Cake and ice cream is on its way.

[Anonymous No.9408548]

>>9408491
Heretic 2
I hate rats and spiders and dogs/wolves in games and irl

[Anonymous No.9408551]

>>9408548
>I hate rats and spiders in games and irl
Understandable, even if I don't agree.
>and dogs/wolves
Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.9408560]

>>9408430
Silly idea, holding the button swings it over his head in a circular motion. Having a Ring of Might swings it fast enough to slow your falls.

[Anonymous No.9408563]

>>9408560
While that'd be funny, I'm trying to streamline stuff by removing feature bloat.
Also I made the chain hitscan.

[Anonymous No.9408569]

>>9408563
Okay that's pretty rad.

[Anonymous No.9408580]

>>9407689
>>9406937
What's it called?

[Anonymous No.9408581]

>>9408462
Mouse or bust numpad is for call center workers.

[Anonymous No.9408620]

im back on drawing my doom shit

[Anonymous No.9408624]

>>9408620
do you take requests?

[Anonymous No.9408659]

>>9408624
yes

[Anonymous No.9408676]

>>9408659
based
would it be fine if you can do a request based on a specific doom fan megawad level? doesn't have to be too complicated, just something that people associate with the level
If you do I'd like to request something involving The Mucus Flow or Sunlust's Map29

[Anonymous No.9408681]

>>9408294
Unrattled Submission:
Name: Lost Cause
MIDI: Hunting Betrayal from DDS2, arranged by Thomash Lee from VGMusic
Difficulty levels and very basic DM support added in. I do mean very basic, I just made sure you can pick up every weapon, all player spawns have a shotgun nearby, and some extra armors and supercharges thrown around.
https://files.catbox.moe/2n3lhc.zip

[Anonymous No.9408684]

FACT the original doom .exe can be played with WASD and a mouse so using those to play it with source ports is NOT sacrilegious

[Anonymous No.9408713]

if you wanted to start people off on doom 2 but don't want to use the vanilla doom 2 levelset, what megawad would you use?

[Anonymous No.9408715]

>>9408713
Doom II The Way id Did

[Anonymous No.9408735]

why isn't quake as popular as doom when it comes to modding?

[Anonymous No.9408738]

>>9408735
Doom is appealing in its simplicity. If you are going to mod a game that requires building 3D levels, you might as well work with something more modern.

[Anonymous No.9408756]

>>9408735
>>9408738
You can make very simple Quake mods like say making the shotguns behave more like Doom's (slower rate of fire, more damage) instead of how they function now, but Quake just was never as big as Doom. It doesn't help that Arcane Dimensions as a modkit and mapkit is pretty much what most people want out of Quake anyway (more enemies, more weapons, more tricks for mappers, etc.) leading to a "why bother?" attitude. That's not a slur on AD btw AD is great.

[Anonymous No.9408829]

what texture do you like to use for doors that are opened with a switch?

[Anonymous No.9408847]

>>9408430
>>9408563
Why is he throwing anal balls? (^:

[Anonymous No.9408848]

>>9408829
Metal or bronze with light at the bottom. or silver with trim. Can't be bothered to look how they are called, but you know what I'm talking about.

[Anonymous No.9408868]

94 protons never ever

[Anonymous No.9408875]

>>9408563

[Anonymous No.9408879]

>>9408847
Because I love ball chains you see in old video games, you degenerate.

>>9408875
I'm working on something else right now. I probably shouldn't, but I am. And it DOES look cool.

[Anonymous No.9408907]

>>9408413
What is this?
Looks a bit like a cross between Duke Nukem 3d and Ion Fury.

[Anonymous No.9408909]

>>9408879

[Anonymous No.9408913]

>start playing Doom 64
>stop after seven minutes because I don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to do to progress
>spend five minutes wandering around before looking it up online
>"oh, okay"
>keep playing Doom 64
>stop after seven minutes because I don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to do to progress
>spend five minutes wandering around before looking it up online
>"oh, okay"
>keep playing Doom 64
>stop after seven minutes because I don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to do to progress
>spend five minutes wandering around before looking it up online
Why is it like this? It's so often that I can't just be retarded

[Anonymous No.9408915]

I just realized I've been archiving the news posts for about six years now.

[Anonymous No.9408918]

The entirety of Black Mesa Resource Facility was a disaster waiting to happen.

[Anonymous No.9408920]

>>9408918
How much of their annual budget went to bribing DoE/OSHA inspectors into not shutting them down over the literal rivers of radioactive waste flowing through their facility

[Anonymous No.9408926]

>>9408920
I have absolutely no idea but one thing I am kinda pissed that didn't become a thing back in the day is something akin to "Concerned" webcomic but something showing the day to day plight of regular workers in the Black Mesa Research facility like Gus the Forklift operator, the security guards or other maintenance goons trying to clean up some messes caused by the aging / malfunctioning equipment.

[Anonymous No.9408940]

>>9408287
>4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
>https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA
this has been taken down, replace or remove the link

[Anonymous No.9408942]

>>9408926
I actually toyed with the idea at one point back in the day when Gmod first got the ability to mount HL Source content, got as far as developing a basic plot that centered around a self-insert new hire and her misadventures around the facility as she bounced around different departments, even made some custom assets for it but then my PC died bigly and took basically everything with it, and I lost all motivation for PC gaming for a good couple of years. By the time I got a new PC and came back to Gmod that kind of webcomic culture that existed on PHW and Facepunch was already dying out so I never revisited it.

[Anonymous No.9408943]

So far most of my deaths playing Duke Nukem 3D have been walls exploding for no reason and killing me.

[Anonymous No.9408951]

>>9408942
Yeah, I also kinda realize that the timeframe passed for that. Sad! But it is what it is.

[Anonymous No.9408982]

GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS. IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? MAPS, MODS, SPRITES? NOW'S A GOOD TIME TO POST THAT SHIT.

[Anonymous No.9408989]

>>9408982
I got one last thing. While you'll always have a fixed 100 Subweapon ammo, I've done some math shit through ACS to show exactly how many shots you get with each subweapon.
The plan here is the bar will slowly regenerate on its own after a few moments when you toss a subweapon, but if you run it down to 0 you'll have to wait for it fully recharge and reset.

I guess a good comparison would be Epona's carrots in OoT and how they regen.

[Anonymous No.9408990]

>>9408879
>you degenerate
My recent diarrhea really fucked me up this time, sorry.
>>9408907
Rise of the Triad art. Won't be surprised if Miller in his sperging spree would start annoying Voidpoint to remove it.

[Anonymous No.9408998]

>>9408879
my favorite is when a boss has noodle limbs made of spheres

[Anonymous No.9409002]

>>9408982
Made map for community project. Maybe if I crank down brightness, nobody will notice that cave walls have no details.

[Anonymous No.9409005]

>>9408429
this is some slowtaku shit
i assume people already know about the ultimate doom and e1m1 by now
>>9408539
do people who use memes like "le bad" even recall when it was based off using le ironically because people hated 9gag and rage comics at the time?
>>9408331
this reminds me of boiled doom, which remakes bd in vanilla

[Anonymous No.9409008]

>>9408354
Jay Wilbur is underrated.

[Anonymous No.9409015]

>>9409005
>using le ironically
Somehow, I feel like that's what anon was doing. But I can see how you'd think otherwise, given the tendency for memes to mutate hideously.

[Anonymous No.9409017]

>>9408907
Been playing Alien Armageddon

[Anonymous No.9409040]

>>9408735
Quake modding isn't modular at all outside of FTE - which nobody takes advantage of. While with Doom you can load up a million tiny gameplay wads on top of your favorite level set, with Quake it has to be either a massive mod with maps made specifically for it, or a single gameplay mod on vanilla maps.

[Anonymous No.9409047]

>>9409015
the le is so stale by now that you might as well root for doge or all your base to make a striking comeback.

[Anonymous No.9409052]

>>9409047
>all your base
DESU DESU DESU DESU

[Anonymous No.9409076]

>>9408982
Working on my map for Unrattled.

[Anonymous No.9409224]

>>9409008
I agree.

[Anonymous No.9409230]

>>9408982
Been working on a personal project. Just a mod to play as a demon guy with demonic guns.

[Anonymous No.9409232]

>>9409230
how demonic? we talking like, Hearts of Demons demonic, a humanoid demon, or a demonically-possessed guy?

[Anonymous No.9409237]

>>9409232
Humanoid demon. I was thinking half-demon/son of Satan kind of thing.

[Anonymous No.9409258]

>>9408548
Speaking of which, are there arachnophobia mods for those classic games? Spiders used to be really common enemies on games back in the day and it seems nowadays devs have moved away from them in favour of other insects or mutants of some kind. With how simple build and doom engine games are to mod I imagine those would be common but doesn't seem to be the case as far as I'm aware.

[Anonymous No.9409260]

>>9409076
I really like the gothic look you have going on here. Especially those inlet demon marble walls.

[Anonymous No.9409262]

>>9409076
Looks very Dr. Sleep, good stuff.

[Anonymous No.9409289]

hard fast faggot maps more like half-arsed faggot maps lol

[Anonymous No.9409358]

>>9408676
i will once i play 'em

[Anonymous No.9409364]

>>9408913
That's just what video games were like in the 90s
Even the vanilla Doom maps have some batshit insane navigation logic here and there

[Anonymous No.9409397]

More Casali shitting on TNT today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2yNRbUDk0w&list=PLk5gaNp4x_AW_uvE9K0kMDg0zkO9WJjtJ

[Anonymous No.9409409]

>>9408310
>Excuse me
>Coming through
>Pardon
>Sorry!
>EXCUSE ME!

[Anonymous No.9409413]

>>9408913
>>9409364
Not that anon, but even though I've played both Doom and Doom II countless times I still get lost in many levels. Meanwhile I know every inch in all of the levels in Unreal and Half-Life.

[Anonymous No.9409414]

someone has spilled mountain dew

[Anonymous No.9409415]

>>9409414
what's that under the baron portrait on the right?
a red power up?
an enemy?
and is the green slash like part of physics related to the liquid or is it an enemy like those fish stalkers from hexen?

[Anonymous No.9409417]

>>9409413
sounds like a skill issue

[Anonymous No.9409418]

>>9408998
I wonder how viable would be segmented enemies like that in zscript or even decorate, like a chain of cacos or other ball like stuff with one very strong Caco variant as the head

[Anonymous No.9409419]

>>9409418
I think Elementalism does something like that for its earth boss.

[Anonymous No.9409420]

>>9409415
it's clearly Knuckles

[Anonymous No.9409423]

>>9409417
More like memorization issue. The environments in Doom games are same-y for the most time, this is mostly true for Doom II.

[Anonymous No.9409425]

im back on my sixty six sick shit

[Anonymous No.9409429]

>>9409230
>heretic/hexen/diablo like ornaments in hud with gargoyles at side
>Those runic symbols for ammo
Pure SOVL
If you made red/blue liquid balls as optional pointers for health and ammo it would be even more amazing. I also like how the middle part is uncovered so you can use the standard hud instead of the alternative speedrunner one and still see the whole weapon sprite, really good UI work. The revolver and gloved red hand is also kino aside from the weird outlined sight and barrel but that's probably WIP - generally Im creaming at your work anon

[Anonymous No.9409436]

>>9409397
Call me if he'll move to actually good Team TNT works, like Icarus or Eternal Doom.

[Anonymous No.9409454]

>>9409415
it's the heresiarch's little bouncy fireball thing

[Anonymous No.9409471]

im sorry but what was the name of this doom wad created by this japanese guy that was sorta like a slaughtermap hybrid with invasion and in the doomworld mod description he has obviously engrish and he also explains the backstory of the wad in the website's description
you are doomguy on a prison ship and monsters invade and all i have for proof is this old screenshot

[Anonymous No.9409473]

Am I playing WADs wrong if I don't use pistol start? The thought sits in the back of my mind even if I'm using mods like High Noon Drifter to blast through enemies (meaning I'm not playing vanilla anyway.)

[Anonymous No.9409476]

oh nevermind i found it
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/p-r/rod2

[Anonymous No.9409485]

>>9409471
>>9409476
>The year is 2145. You were the marine, when you were on the Earth.
>Now you are in the sexual crime jail on the moon far far away from the Earth.
>Because you hit the hot 17-year-old chick.
>Yes...It is the ERA that every single piece of sexual crime is going to be jailed or death.
>But suddenly UAC base on Mars was infected by Demons, and at the same time, the entire moon was going to be covered with dark clouds of demons.
>Situation has changed. Whoever have to do anything to survive. Sooner or later, they will release you to survive themselves.
>Now it's time.
Fucking kek, that's some funny engrish, and sound exactly like what some japanese anime fan young guy would think of for a story

[Anonymous No.9409490]

>>9409473
No, if author wanted you to pistol start, he should've either release every level separately or force it with some script/setting.
If that really bothers you, you should stop using autosaves instead, meaning that you would essentially pistol start every time you die.

[Anonymous No.9409536]

[Anonymous No.9409560]

>thought Ghost Recon would look kino with texture filtering forced off
>discover massive square lightmaps from hell
welp

[Anonymous No.9409613]

>>9409425
>clean it up janny

[Anonymous No.9409618]

>>9409560
You spent too much time on /vr/.

[Anonymous No.9409703]

>>9408294
>(embed)

[Anonymous No.9409715]

>>9409703
Some of these links are dead, too. I'd make OPs more often but I ran out of images a while ago.

[Anonymous No.9409720]

>>9408982
I beat Hellbound as Hellbound guy with Corruption Cards on Chaos Mode, sadly I couldn't find the secret exit for Map32

[Anonymous No.9409730]

>>9409720
I don't think you understand Screenshot Saturday. It's for projects you have in development whether it be sprites, maps, mods or whatever else.

[Anonymous No.9409735]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nkYwz7mZIY
doom 64 hellhound

[Anonymous No.9409746]

>>9409560
SOUL

[Anonymous No.9409749]

>>9409730
Nope I don't

[Anonymous No.9409750]

>>9409749
You do now. And knowing is half the battle. The other half is Ultra-Violence

[Anonymous No.9409858]

>>9409471
>>9409476
>>9409485
kek love these text files, also the author is called Masa. Is this Masayan? If so he's contributed to a few things now, including the 94 tune up and japanese community projects.

[Anonymous No.9409896]

>>9408659
Can you draw a caco cuddeling a arachnotron? Give me some wholesomeness please

[Anonymous No.9409897]

>>9408620
Mind if I use this in a texture for a WAD?

[Anonymous No.9409923]

>>9409040
I wish more games had multi-mod support, does anybody knows another game besides Doom(2) that allows for it that aren't TES?

[Anonymous No.9409928]

>https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2022.2
new trenchbroom release just dropped

[Anonymous No.9409935]

[Anonymous No.9409939]

How do you guys feel about fights where a couple of enemies are teleporting around pretty frequently

[Anonymous No.9409943]

>>9409618
Is that a Revenant rendered in the OG Quake 1 Engine?

[Anonymous No.9409948]

>>9409943
Looks like Quake 3 to me.

[Anonymous No.9409952]

>>9409935
>released feature empty
Wait, we're talking modern games now guys?

[Anonymous No.9409956]

>>9409928
>no traditional prefabs
>no configurable brush objects like JACK/Hammer
>no Half Life decal support
>no creating Quake 3 / Doom 3 curve objects
>no shader preview support
I'm getting the feeling there aren't any real development priorities behind Trenchbroom.

[Anonymous No.9410012]

>>9409943
>>9409948
That, youngsters, is how some of us played Doom 3 back in the day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg8tgKviGps

[Anonymous No.9410049]

>>9409473
Community projects like CC, DBPs and of /vr/ should always be pistol started. Mappers are usually good about placing all the supplies needed for the level when making a single map for a CC
For megawads by only one or two authors where one level clearly takes place after the next keeping your stuff is fine, and I think it's kind of expected that a good portion of players will or else there wouldn't be 2 medkits in every exit room of ancient aliens, or secret megaspheres near level exits like map 12 of Revilution. These kind of wads are usually a lot more careful about where RLs, plasma and BFGs are
plus if you pistol start you only get to use the wonderful Final Doomer pizza cutter in one map of plutonia

[Anonymous No.9410056]

>>9409730
I wouldn't mind if we had something similar on a certain day where you post the last thing you played.

[Anonymous No.9410057]

>>9409935
>feeling skeletons

[Anonymous No.9410063]

>>9409956
>no traditional prefabs
This I really don't understand. Is it so hard? They support just copying brushes around, so there's no reason it can't be done.

[Anonymous No.9410074]

>>9410056
Create some kind of image and consistently post it on that day if you want that to happen then.

[Anonymous No.9410146]

>>9410056
You can literally always post screenshots of whatever thing you played last or two days ago or whatever. It's nice to read when anons post a screenshot and say a sentence of two about whatever game they played.

[Anonymous No.9410201]

>>9410146
Today I was a rocket tax collector.
It's a hard job.

[Anonymous No.9410205]

how longer until icycalm btfos quake and duke like he did with wolfenstein, doom and half life?

[Anonymous No.9410215]

>>9410205
>icycalm
please tell me this retard isn't still around

[Anonymous No.9410245]

>>9408179
>not calling it American McGee

[Anonymous No.9410246]

>>9409429
Thank you. I didn't expect to receive any positive response. The hud is what I've spent the most time on. I've always preferred seeing the gun over a mugshot and I can't sprite very well, so I'm not making a mugshot for this.

The gun is rough, but, as I said before, I suck at spriting, so it's just a frankensprite of three other things. I do intend on working on it to blend it better and get rid of the weird black border.

[Anonymous No.9410253]

>>9410246
It looks good so far, a bit of polish and it'd look nice without any worries. Always wanted to see a more demonic weapon set outside of what Demon Eclipse had in episode 2

[Anonymous No.9410271]

>>9410057

[Anonymous No.9410282]

>>9409230
This looks really cool.

>>9410245
Well the show is American Dad. I wanted it to start with a D.

[Anonymous No.9410301]

[Anonymous No.9410323]

Is Eviternity fun?

[Anonymous No.9410358]

>>9409230
What is the wad called that makes your HUD that shape, where it's split in two pieces
My PC wiped and I lost it and I can't remember what it's actually called

[Anonymous No.9410373]

>>9410323
It's an OTEX showcase. 100% style over substance. Dehydration is one of the worst maps ever.

[Anonymous No.9410384]

>>9410358
NightFright's Fullscreen Statusbar Mod?

[Anonymous No.9410386]

>>9410384
Ayy that's the one thanks anon

[Anonymous No.9410389]

>>9410373
I've still yet to play it as well. Not sure what I was going to play it with. Trailblazer, maybe. I just tried it for the first time the other day.

[Anonymous No.9410390]

>>9410373
shame

[Anonymous No.9410401]

>>9410323
has its ups and downs. the snow episode and heaven episodes are the best, the slime techbase and hell episodes drag heavily

[Anonymous No.9410420]

DOOK

[Anonymous No.9410485]

Does coop make even the bad wads fun?
Discuss

[Anonymous No.9410495]

>>9410485
Depends on friends and mood. Sometimes laughing at dumb wads is more fun than cozily clearing good ones.

[Anonymous No.9410496]

>>9410485
You people will play literal shit for sunday night shitshow and still beat it in its entirety so I'll have to go with yes

[Anonymous No.9410519]

>>9409897
sure go ahead

[Anonymous No.9410527]

>>9410420
Which mod is this?

[Anonymous No.9410532]

>>9410527
it's alien vendetta

[Anonymous No.9410534]

>>9410519
Cool, thanks

[Anonymous No.9410536]

>>9410534
Cute, is this your map for SRB2K?

[Anonymous No.9410539]

>>9410534
Nice. Did you get the stat tracking working yet?

[Anonymous No.9410540]

>>9410534
aw sweet that looks good thank you

[Anonymous No.9410545]

>>9410536
Nah, I'm just replacing some of the vanilla textures, but I do plan to make maps one day.
>>9410539
No, I even tried reinstalling the OS. I'll have to ask /vm/

[Anonymous No.9410565]

>>9410545
Extra details: Running the server with all of our mods created a luafiles/ directory, along with .cfg files for their respective mods, but it was unable to create .txt files. When created manually, it was not able to write to them either. I don't know where to go from here.

[Anonymous No.9410574]

>>9410532
I mean the Duke weapons mod you donut.

[Anonymous No.9410585]

>>9410574
dn3doom
https://www.moddb.com/mods/dn3doom

[Anonymous No.9410596]

>>9409923
all unreals /uts

[Anonymous No.9410604]

>>9408982
Okay, hopefully this makes sense just watching how the bar and numbers behave.

[Anonymous No.9410605]

>>9409471
I can't make those basic ass textures even at gun point
am I retarded?

[Anonymous No.9410612]

>>9409935
>cacos don't pack away
is this a sitcom where a cacodemon refuses to leave your apartment?

[Anonymous No.9410618]

>>9410604
The numbers on the recharge are a little hard to read, at least in the webm. I've heard being able to make out subtle variances in lightness/darkness is a tradeoff of sorts for colorblindness. Otherwise I would suggest it be displayed as a cooldown that counts down the seconds until it's reloaded.

[Anonymous No.9410623]

>>9410618
I ain't using seconds, but I could just not gray out the number when you're empty. Or edit the colors of the numbers so it's more readable when it grays out.

[Anonymous No.9410625]

>>9408294
slooter 0.20 was uploaded to f95 if anyone is interested
and for the developer, if you read this, I'd pay for a finished project, this is a demo

[Anonymous No.9410651]

>>9410618
>>9410623
I could use this cream color here, though I don't know if that's too unorthodox for people.

[Anonymous No.9410661]

>>9410651
Makes me think of rust, which would logically mean the weapon is unusable.
It's an ugly color, but I think it works, perhaps even subtly discouraging running a subweapon dry.

[Anonymous No.9410665]

>>9410661
Mission accomplished then. Just as long as darker and different.
Also I'm stupid as hell and forgot to make the reloading bar gray

[Anonymous No.9410694]

>>9410665
Alright fuck it. Let's try this. Coloring font in ZDoom is stupid

[Anonymous No.9410807]

>>9409618
Voodoo Doom 3 is so fucking weird looking.

[Anonymous No.9410863]

>Doom is fun
>why don't I try playing Doom on UV
I hate hitscan now, take 15 damage a second from some asshole 100 feet away fuck me

[Anonymous No.9410871]

>>9410863

[Anonymous No.9410881]

[Anonymous No.9410889]

[Anonymous No.9410903]

Speaking of Dook, can you even do colored sector lighting in Doom like you can in Build?

[Anonymous No.9410930]

>>9409419
Elementalism does this for at least two of its bosses. I don't think I've seen any other mapsets do it though

[Anonymous No.9410956]

>>9410863
Don't play TNT Evilution.

[Anonymous No.9410967]

>>9410323
For me, one of best megawads i've played. It's fun. Didn't mind map19. It sure is long, but easy to navigate and there isn't any filler parts. Only ones who complain about it, are the ones that just have to play each map without a single save.

[Anonymous No.9410968]

>>9410956
Don't listen to this. First two thirds of Evilution are good fun.

[Anonymous No.9410980]

That's the Hatchet done.

[Anonymous No.9410981]

>>9408982
I finally implemented some basic enemies. Gonna push out a new build as soon as possible, but there will be no new levels and I will even remove story cutscenes for the time being.

[Anonymous No.9410983]

>>9410871
Akchyually hitscans have maximum range of 2048 units in Doom.

[Anonymous No.9410985]

>>9410983
Shut up, dweebenheimer.

[Anonymous No.9410989]

don't you think that built in save states ruin the tension in a lot of these games? exhumed is my favorite because it's a console game and therefore lets us save only at the end of levels. the game is not too hard but can be quite tense because of this. on the other hand, blood can get very hard but that's because of the save states so it becomes die and retry.

[Anonymous No.9410991]

>>9410981
Damn I never got around to saying this but I really like your HUD. That's some real slick stuff, I love the textured meters

[Anonymous No.9411089]

>>9410989
"Save states" are only as powerful as you let them be. You can use them as much as possible or not at all.

[Anonymous No.9411139]

>>9411089
>"Cheat codes" are only as powerful as you let them be. You can use them as much as possible or not at all.

[Anonymous No.9411141]

>>9411139
Yeah, what's your point? That falls onto the player for using and abusing them. Might as well blame Game Genie for ruining games and not the players actively using them.

[Anonymous No.9411142]

>>9411139
I'm still right. If you're a retarded animal with no impulse control, that's your problem.

[Anonymous No.9411150]

>Women are only as powerful as you let them be. You can give in to them as much as possible or not at all.

[Anonymous No.9411158]

>>9410903
Doom 64 and GzDoom

[Anonymous No.9411160]

>>9411139
Yes. Just don't cheat.

[Anonymous No.9411165]

>>9411139
Yes.

[Anonymous No.9411193]

>>9408580
The .zip is called "anevil" - lotsa half-baked ideas reused mostly in his later releases, but the TF-like interface shenaningans are unique to this mod
>Axe-knight is older than Coven of Ebony itself
I think this Maniac dude should be brought back to /VR/ as the proposed "melee-only" version of them instead of the SoE's "forest thugs"

[Anonymous No.9411194]

>>9411139
>>9410989
Why do people make retarded statements like these and pretend they aren't actually retarded?

>How can Ocarina Of Time be a fair game if I can just skip to the end with arbitrary code execution?
>How can dice be fair if I can just pick them up and place the number I want?
>How can chess be fair if I can just pick up the enemy king at any time?
>How can Monopoly be fair if I can just take all the money at the start of the game?
>How can cars be safe if I can just drive on the sidewalk?

Do you need to be physically restrained or held at gunpoint to not sodomize the neighborhood cats on sight? Just exhibit the bare minimum of impulse control.

[Anonymous No.9411198]

>>9411193
no idea why that screenshot got spoilered but whatever
>funny thing how this mod pulls a DoE MG-ogre thing - wherein a portion of a chosen map's DeathKnight population gets turned into "Anti-Paladins" who can shoot thunderbolts in your face in addition to regular fireballs

[Anonymous No.9411201]

>>9411194
False equivalence, you faggot.

[Anonymous No.9411204]

>>9411201
He's not wrong. If someone comes in here and makes a claim that savescumming is OP because they saved before every encounter and thus made every fight trivial, and then has the audacity to act like that's a flaw in the system. The blame is solely on them for acting stupid.

[Anonymous No.9411208]

>>9410980
Okay last one out of me for tonight. I need to make this thing drain energy when you have it raised, as well as take a chunk off when you first start blocking so you can't just tap block your way through everything.
Also need to make it kick back when you block stuff.

[Anonymous No.9411212]

>>9410871
oh, and there is an archvile behind him

[Anonymous No.9411251]

>>9411194
>>9411204
There's a fine line between abusing an intended feature and cheating or using glitches. People who say that a game is easy because they can savescum every footstep are retarded, but this argument isn't any better.

[Anonymous No.9411270]

>>9411204
>because they saved before every encounter and thus made every fight trivial
How is saving before every fight making the fight trivial? A fight doesn't become harder or easier when you save right beforehand.

[Anonymous No.9411329]

>>9410485
I once did a co-op run of Mock 2: The Speed of Stupid and watching everyone suffer was pretty great.

[Anonymous No.9411338]

>>9411270
The battle may not change but you did by having the immediate opportunity to try it again at full strength and weapons

[Anonymous No.9411342]

>just found the extra levels room in Alkaline1.1 after beating the latest "Power Structure" map from the Func_msgboard news archive
I just had to take a screencap of the meticolously sculpted crapper it came with as expected from me as usual

[Anonymous No.9411361]

>Gremlins in Quake can both multiply via corpse eating and steal certain weapons from the player
This enemy feels like wasted potential, i wonder if a Quake mod ever buffed him to show off those abilities a bit more often
But i think Quake mods rarely tackle the mission packs

[Anonymous No.9411368]

>>9411361
https://twitter.com/tribalquake/status/1057712766759432192
Also found this, someone's custom figures based off SoA enemies

[Anonymous No.9411375]

No Rest for the Living fucking rocks.

[Anonymous No.9411437]

>>9411361
wtf is this from?

[Anonymous No.9411439]

>>9411194
the problem is that the game design is done with these save states in mind. lots of unfair deaths because of this.

[Anonymous No.9411450]

>>9410401
so far it felt like the snow levels are the biggest drag. I enjoyed the first two chapters though.

[Anonymous No.9411453]

>>9409935
>easy lol
>exactly lmao

[Anonymous No.9411464]

>>9409935
name the wad

[Anonymous No.9411475]

>>9411201
No it isn't, you only have yourself to blame for savescumming. You may as well be complaining about how you can't stop yourself from entering IDDQD.

[Anonymous No.9411480]

>>9411439
Doom and Doom 2 are easy as fuck, if you find yourself forced to savescum then you're REALLY a shitter.

[Anonymous No.9411509]

>>9411342
Normally I'd hate a huge semi-open map that's exploration-oriented like this, but somehow it being based around the Jump-Boots makes it feel like playing WarioLand in first-person and is a pretty neat experience overall. . .

[Anonymous No.9411515]

>>9411338
>but you did by having the immediate opportunity to try it again at full strength and weapons
How so? Shouldn't going through a level the same way as before put me approximately in the same spot, health- and ammo-wise?
The only thing saving before a fight does is removing the tedium of having to replay the level over and over and over, depending on how often I die.

[Anonymous No.9411539]

What the hell are these keybindings?

[Anonymous No.9411551]

>>9410981
Lookin' good anon

[Anonymous No.9411552]

>>9411539
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.9411556]

>>9411539
Joystick+someone mashed their keys

[Anonymous No.9411603]

>>9411515
>Shouldn't going through a level the same way as before put me approximately in the same spot, health- and ammo-wise?
Similar logic can be applied to saving during a fight. You can also not worry about any saves with DSDA’s rewind since it’s basically saving every split second.

[Anonymous No.9411610]

>>9411201
It's a perfect equivalence. I don't save and reload all throughout, so why don't you? Just making a save at the start or end of a map is pretty common, the people who that don't seem to have problems controlling themselves.

[Anonymous No.9411648]

Tried adding laser sight using A_CustomRailgun, but visibility sucked and it kept disappearing at some angles for some reason. Current solution is a really long flatsprite.

[Anonymous No.9411786]

>>9411509
I'm honestly loving those JumpBoots

[Anonymous No.9411804]

TIL that MBF sky transfer can work on vanilla mapping formats (linedef action 271, sky is the upper texture) if you test your maps with the likes of crispy doom or any port that has MBF support.

[Anonymous No.9411931]

>>9410989
I've said it here before but Blood is perfectly reasonable to play without quicksaving in the middle of levels on Lightly Broiled with modern keyboard+mouse controls. Most levels have a population of about 50-60 enemies which is about as much as the bigger doom 1 levels

[Anonymous No.9411936]

>>9411509
>>9411786
Pretty funny that there are three endings to this map, one being an early coward's way out
I liked the exploration part too, but just like gathering tomes in that one rune map in AD it gets so fucking tiresome after getting 75% of the chips and you either quit or spend rest of an hour noclipping around - getting all 100% is just so fucking tedious and its all just for a quirky semifunny ending cutscene

[Anonymous No.9411939]

>>9411361
>But i think Quake mods rarely tackle the mission packs
This is a shame because both added quite a bit of variety to the game.

[Anonymous No.9411946]

>>9411931
Problem is nobody plays those games on the normal difficulty, it's always on hard or very hard.

[Anonymous No.9411950]

>>9411194
Actually based and truthful take, holy shit.

[Anonymous No.9411963]

>>9411936
I cannot explain this exactly why, but compared to AD's ToFG and FS mega-maps, this one wasn't so boring for some reason - maybe it's because I have actually found most of the secrets (even without noclipping this time around) just by goofing around and checking where I can jump to with the boots

[Anonymous No.9411968]

>>9411936
>spoiler
why do you hate dry socks?

[Anonymous No.9411984]

[Anonymous No.9412030]

>>9411931
Speaking of this, I've been messing around more with Not Blood's hitscan projectiles. It's interesting, I might enable them with a combo of Well Done/Extra Crispy settings for blind and unfamiliar runs from now on.
>>9411946
Less a problem with the game, more a problem with expectations and some being stubborn about it.

[Anonymous No.9412094]

>>9411648
>Current solution is a really long flatsprite
Looks better and has far better performance.

[Anonymous No.9412130]

>>9412094
Yeah, I have one enemy that fires two-stage hitscan shot (a harmless targeting laser followed by actual shot a second later), and it is using railgun right now, but since flatsprites worked so great I'm gonna use it instead.

[Anonymous No.9412139]

[Anonymous No.9412167]

>>9410373
>Dehydration is one of the worst maps ever
I agree the ammo management part is annoying but it's a healthy challenge

Going Down was worse because of that awful map 5

[Anonymous No.9412262]

>>9411603
Yeah with the difference that hitting quicksave in the wrong moment will ruin your day while rewind just does indeed completely trivialize anything.

[Anonymous No.9412284]

>>9411963
Well well, and I thought the SMEJ's coffeemaker secret was absurd enough...

[Anonymous No.9412304]

still not dante's inferno inspired wad? where levels are the layers depicting each sin with a unique theme/gimmick

[Anonymous No.9412305]

>>9412304
I'm not aware of one but now I want to do one.

[Anonymous No.9412306]

>>9412304
I don't know of any WADs entirely devoted to the concept, but DTS-T and 2hu Doom both have single levels dedicated to the concept. Problem is, both of these WADs are fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.9412319]

>>9412304
i'd like to see a wad with creative aesthetics based off bosch

[Anonymous No.9412370]

Since the OP mentions Thief
>play a Thief fan mission
>feels really good, nice atmosphere
>HD model shows up
Do people think this shit actually looks good

[Anonymous No.9412376]

i need more claustrophobic maps like Toxic Touch

[Anonymous No.9412404]

>>9412304
>Dante's Inferno
Why would anyone make a wad inspired by some mediocre hack'n'slash nobody remembers anymore?

[Anonymous No.9412424]

>>9412404
Do zoomers really?

[Anonymous No.9412452]

Sunday?

[Anonymous No.9412456]

>>9412452
Yeah it's Sunday, what of it?

[Anonymous No.9412475]

>>9410981
what's this?, gits?

[Anonymous No.9412502]

Aside from STALKER, Far Cry 1 & 2 and Ashes, what would be a good /vr/ fps that would have a combination of urban and comfy forest / nature environments? I'm familiar with the Build Engine classics and a big fan of IF, I would love something with a lot of environments where urban / sub urban and nature intersect similar to STALKER .

[Anonymous No.9412514]

>>9408940
Some faggot from here reported the links to mega
the guy will make a updated release with fixes

[Anonymous No.9412516]

>>9412304
Dr. Sleep's Inferno series is about as close as I've seen it get, and that's not very close. It is a neat idea though.

[Anonymous No.9412519]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDiOFEl1xOs
Not sure what burst hemorrhoid has in common with cardiac arrest, great map nonetheless (and the whole wad doesn't slack on its pace too)

[Anonymous No.9412523]

How do I install ashes? Do I need a copy of Doom in order to mod or is it standalone?

[Anonymous No.9412537]

>til eduke32 has shitty texture filtering because terminx cant code anisotropy or jinc2 into it since build textures are higher res than doom

[Anonymous No.9412539]

I'll never understand people who don't want save states in games. Have you never played a modern game that uses checkpoint systems? 99% of the time they fucking suck ass. The devs and the players are obviously going to have different skill levels. Shit, if the original Doom games had checkpoints instead of saves I bet they'd have stuck them right in the middle of the map, making it even easier how a lot of people play. Not to mention when you do the checkpoint thing, it's real easy to get stuck in a softlock or some shit and you can't just reload an earlier save. I've seen people have to replay entire games before because of that shit. Fuck off.

Not one checkpointer can explain to me why they don't just use the saves to create their own checkpoints. That all you have to do. Make a save at the beginning or end of a stage. Problem solved. If you feel the need to act like a twat and tell other people what to do, go become a discord janny.

[Anonymous No.9412542]

SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW TIME! Tonight we're playing Doomware, the best way to lose friends on SNS since shootthroughallies was enabled!

The password is "HolyCrackersTheresCapsNow"

HURRY UP AND JOIN!
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666

[Anonymous No.9412549]

>>9412519
Meant to post World Circus song version as it's clearer sounding and faster, but this one is fine too.

[Anonymous No.9412610]

>>9412523
There's a standalone version you can download.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/ashes-2063/downloads/ashes-stand-alone-version-101

[Anonymous No.9412626]

>>9411342
toiletbros unite

[Anonymous No.9412634]

>>9412626
>AHHHHHHHHHHHH HELP ME NIGGERMAN, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SHIT FOR 5 HOURS AND THERE ARE ELDRITCH MONSTERS PEERING AT ME UNDER THE STALL DOOR

[Anonymous No.9412635]

>>9412502
so I'm not the only one that thinks stalker and fc2 ambient are similar, shame fc2's fauna doesn't attack you

[Anonymous No.9412701]

>>9412370
you know tfix adds a bunch of those, right?

[Anonymous No.9412707]

[Anonymous No.9412742]

>>9412626
so this is the fabled NIGGERTOILET

i kneel

[Anonymous No.9412769]

SNS Stuff: We're playing with the 2hu monsters gameplay mod next session, haven't decided on a megawad yet.

Azure went ahead and compiled a SOC for SRB2Kart, the changes are as follows:
>Twinkle Kart, Cloud Cradle, Eggman's Nightclub and Egg Cradle (I might just hell this one) are now 10% larger
>Kodachrome Void has been helled
>SMK maps are 25%/20% larger (I also considered helling these)
>Arid Sands (hell map) made 20% larger
>Checmical Facility (hell map) made 10% larger
>Pridemoor Classic (from dig pack) un-helled
>Sky Meadow, Hong Kong Streets, Drag Matrix and Black Comet Way are now only 2 laps
>Removed GUN Fleet Edge because of complaints by a certain user
>Re-added GUN Fleet Edge because I do not care for the opinions of manlets
Also, I've been tinkering SRB2Kart so much that I feel like it's too much work for something that we only play once every month, so I want to try getting more frequent sessions setup. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.9412774]

>>9412701
I'm aware, but I'm using TFix Lite (ie no extra stuff besides the engine) and for all of these cases I'm complaining about I can see inside the FM resources that they have HD models, since when I delete all the EP resources (drag the EP models to the FM, overwrite any overlaps, then ctrl-z to erase everything I've added plus the overwritten files) they go back to the old ones

[Anonymous No.9412780]

[Anonymous No.9412798]

>>9412542

[Anonymous No.9412801]

>>9412798
Still haven't beaten that fucker?

[Anonymous No.9412804]

>>9412769
>>9412798

[Anonymous No.9412818]

well after playing brutal doom and project brutality, i must say, i like PB, but BD never crashed once. PB likes to crash when i use rockets. something to do with gibs produced or velocity overflow? idk. but i dont like crashing. at all. guess ill just save when i whip out explosives. i wonder if i load a gore mod last would it overwrite PBs gibs with something that doesnt crash?

[Anonymous No.9412821]

[Anonymous No.9412846]

>>9412542
>>9412769
https://wiki.srb2.org/wiki/SRB2Kart/Chart_of_characters
Moving to CEP gave us a whole 128 new character slots. If anyone has any they'd like to see added to kart, feel free to ask.

[Anonymous No.9412878]

>>9412769
>so I want to try getting more frequent sessions setup. Thoughts?
You know I'm there.
>>9412846
I told myself that I wouldn't request any more characters until I stopped being lazy and made one.

[Anonymous No.9412881]

>>9412878
>I told myself that I wouldn't request any more characters until I stopped being lazy and made one.
Nice. Who do you got in mind, anon?
We have 120 slots open by the way, there's still plenty of room so don't feel bad.

[Anonymous No.9412896]

>>9412769
I'd probably play at least sometimes in the extra sessions if there's more than one per month.

[Anonymous No.9412916]

>>9412769
Wednesday Night Workbench would be nice.

[Anonymous No.9412923]

[Anonymous No.9412938]

>>9412896
See you next Wednesday?
>>9412916
Sounds like a good name for testing things, but we're probably not going to need to do that very often once I get stat tracker sorted out. Maybe another alliteration like Wednesday Night Washout would work better. And yes, I get the reference.

[Anonymous No.9412941]

>>9412769
I am addicted,

captcha:stdk2

[Anonymous No.9413009]

>>9412881
>Who do you got in mind, anon?
You know what? I'll have something to show by next Screenshot Saturday.
Shame I didn't find the motivation last month, but better fashionably late than never.

[Anonymous No.9413078]

>>9408287
Doom 3 Resurrection of Evil link is dead
>>9412542
there's too many enemies and corpses it was impossible to join after you started

[Anonymous No.9413084]

>>9408940
>>9413078
Which moron is reporting the MEGA links in the OP?

[Anonymous No.9413085]

>>9413078
huh

[Anonymous No.9413089]

>>9413084
Dunno, but I heard about some similar trolling going on to some /vg/ generals.

[Anonymous No.9413103]

>>9413085
i did some googling and the reason i couldn't join after you started was because the map you guys were playing was loaded with too many enemies activated at once, and too many corpses that were being left behind.

i missed joining when you guys started, so after you guys played for a while there was too many changes to the map to handle. i wouldn't be surprised if it impacted others too. did you have less players than you usually do?

[Anonymous No.9413113]

>>9413103
I noticed kegan wasn't there, but that's probably because he's busy making cool shit. Seemed pretty normal otherwise.

[Anonymous No.9413141]

>>9413084
>>9413089
It's happening to /ic/ and I heard /co/ as well, I actually think there's either a bot or some severely mentally ill retard reporting every MEGA link on both the site and the archives

[Anonymous No.9413143]

>>9413141
Well, shit, what do we do? Encrypt the links with BASE64? Put the links behind a rentry?

[Anonymous No.9413145]

>>9413103
It was doomware

[Anonymous No.9413161]

>>9411361
Gremlins certainly are unique and could have great potential for fucking with the player, but their movement speed is so slow and attacks so non-threatening that they don't get to do much before being blasted away.
The only time I've ever seen them used is as a bootleg archvile, being spawned in previous areas of the level so they can feast on corpses, but since this creates more gremlins and not whatever was killed, it's little more than tedious cleanup for the player.

[Anonymous No.9413191]

>>9408348

[Anonymous No.9413201]

Would anyone be up to make a V9 of pic related? It's been a while.

[Anonymous No.9413203]

>>9413201
I started it a while ago, but It's seen little development while I do other things. I could post the project file if anyone wants to take a stab themselves, just be warned it's disorganized as hell and has no documentation.

[Anonymous No.9413205]

>>9413089
>>9413141
I see. I think I have a hunch who is doing this, but I don't want to bring up unrelated shit in this thread. I'm not sure if placing the MEGA links behind a rentry would help, especially since this thread isn't close to bump limit.

[Anonymous No.9413252]

What are some good ammo starvation maps that don't involve slaughter / monster infighting mgmt?

[Anonymous No.9413285]

>>9413141
>It's happening to /ic/
Like always?

[Anonymous No.9413292]

>>9413252
Excavation from Icarus

[Anonymous No.9413431]

>>9409923
obligatory:
what mod?

[Anonymous No.9413473]

>>9411984
What's the water texture/effect/pack?

[Anonymous No.9413516]

[Anonymous No.9413553]

[Anonymous No.9413793]

>>9413141
is this the same fag that had a fit in drawthreads and reported some boorus?
good thing i back up shit i like with hydrus but still

[Anonymous No.9413815]

>>9408294
Hellslinger demo out on steam

[Anonymous No.9413864]

>>9412319
this

[Anonymous No.9413871]

>>9413815
I played Hellsinger and it was meh.Also there's something weird with rythm detection, as I and quite a few other people were hitting the beat just a bit too early, and it was fairly consistent too. While there is option for audio tweaking, there is no option to negative it, which is required to be in-tempo.
There's a fix, but the first expression was sour.
Also what is the game in the screenshot.

[Anonymous No.9413884]

>>9413864
It this painting dropped today you'd be calling it capeshit.

[Anonymous No.9413885]

Alright well I just need to make a break animation if the shield meter runs empty and get some new sounds, and the shield will be pretty much good to go.
I do want to add an extra effect when you first start blocking, like reflecting enemy shots, as well as being able to punt enemies away, like a forward facing disc of repulsion

[Anonymous No.9413889]

>>9413885
Is that like timing the shield for a parry essentially?

[Anonymous No.9413893]

>>9413889
Yeah, I'm gonna make the POP have a rebounding effect, so you'll reflect projectiles and knock enemies up and away from you, then if you continue to hold it it'll just be a way to block projectiles.
It drains pretty quick while you hold it though, though blocking stuff doesn't deplete the meter faster.

Did it this way to save myself the potential ball-ache of tracking damage the shield receives. Though I still wish I could make it block melee attacks.

[Anonymous No.9413908]

>>9413084
Encrypt everything for now
IF anything is a former butthrt janny

last time it was a fucking wowdrone

[Anonymous No.9413912]

>>9413203
Quake needs an update and there is none for Q2
Also douk and build games are on the same boat as Q2

[Anonymous No.9413936]

Why did the Hellslinger post get removed? It's a GZDoom release and we keept Hands of the Necromancer in the news as well?

[Anonymous No.9413947]

>>9413936
Some janny or the news guy
even the force engine update wasn't added either.

[Anonymous No.9413956]

>>9408287
What are some people's thoughts on Doom 3 Phobos?
I find it neat that they got a working Arachnotron in D3 but i heard that the story is a little bit "Gone Home-ish"
Can't be as bad as Hunt Down The Freeman

[Anonymous No.9413969]

>>9413516
>>9413553
What are these weapons sprites? The colors are way to saturated.

[Anonymous No.9414008]

>>9413947
Just seems random. Chilling Rekkr, Hands of the Necromancer or Vomitorium but drawing a line there?
I don't need to understand the jannies sometimes I guess.

[Anonymous No.9414040]

3 Laps of /vr/ when

[Anonymous No.9414042]

>>9413956
Once played the intro map for over the hour or so without getting gun yet. Then I had some irl problems, so I stopped playing for a while and basically forgot the whole Phobos. I should get back into it. But as for the mod, it's very professional. Story seemed better than on any commercial fps for years, and voice acting is very good. I've heard they've fixed Doom 3 combat so it's faster paced and has lot more monsters than in original, and guns ofc get buff too. Seems like interesting expansion. Also got cacoward runner-up on 2019 as an only Doom 3 mod to ever achieve such a thng.

[Anonymous No.9414086]

>>9413956
Not as good as Doom 3 In Hell.

[Anonymous No.9414095]

>>9413201
I hope that the next version will have less slaughter and more adventure wads.

[Anonymous No.9414097]

KDIKDIZD has some nifty vanilla trickery.

[Anonymous No.9414124]

>>9414097
you should see Z1m8 fake reflective floors and torches, that shit is simple on paper but seeing it is impressive

[Anonymous No.9414147]

>>9414040
So there's interest after all.
I would love to lead it, but I want to give leading projects a rest after doing it 4 times this year. Plus, I need to find my way around the editor for the game myself so I can actually make maps and help people out.
>>9413912
I'm barely making progress on Doom so you can't rely on me to do any of those. I don't even like those games very much so I don't have the knowledge to provide valuable information for them.

[Anonymous No.9414154]

>>9414147
Srb2 and by Extension SRB2K use a fork of doom builder named zone builder, it feels clunky to UDB, but it works.

[Anonymous No.9414191]

>>9414154
There's still SRB2's unique functions and features that need to be figured out. I would like to get an understanding of all that to answer any questions people have while we make the project.
So you want to make a map? What do you have in mind? I'd like to make a Quartz Quadrant track personally.

[Anonymous No.9414207]

It might be easier to figure out how to map for regular SRB2 before we do a Kart map. In theory, anyway. I'm not very experienced with this sort of thing.

[Anonymous No.9414212]

Anon who was porting Disciples into MBF21. Did you succeed? I'm rooting for you.

[Anonymous No.9414220]

>>9414207
I'm not sure how many people here are interested in base SRB2. I know I'm not, I just want to race karts with anons here.

[Anonymous No.9414228]

>>9414220
That's fair; I'm personally a huge fan of the base game, but I know not everyone is like me.
Funny story, though! I actually got into SRB2 before Doom, having no clue where it came from; when I found out it was running on the Doom engine my mind was blown, and the scope of what you can do with game modding really hit me.
So I decide I'll try Doom out, one thing leads to another, and now I'm trapped in this general.
help

[Anonymous No.9414229]

>>9414191
https://wiki.srb2.org/wiki/Level_design
For the features there is a wiki for it along with youtube tutorials.
Mapping format goes heavily on Dummy sectors.
there are plans to make a the mapping format work on UDB in the future but only for SRB2, Not kart.
I should note that i wasn't that anon that offered the idea of the 3 laps /vr/

[Anonymous No.9414234]

>>9414228
you now know that you can't do loop de loops on SRB2

[Anonymous No.9414236]

>>9414234
I've seen a few attempts at it but they're all jank as hell. Remember when the engine didn't have slopes at all?

[Anonymous No.9414269]

>>9414212
I'm cheering along with you anon.
Dunno if it's the same guy, but I'm hoping that anon releases his MBF21 bestiary. After playing with the Ad Mortem custom monsters, I've gotten a taste for them.

[Anonymous No.9414343]

>>9412938
out of curiosity, is there a reason you use ogg instead of opus for this? does it load faster?

[Anonymous No.9414347]

>>9414343
That was just the file I had on hand. I ripped it from my Sonic CD install.

[Anonymous No.9414350]

>>9413969
heji dawson

[Anonymous No.9414439]

[Anonymous No.9414487]

>>9414439
is drpyspy still making these d64 monsters?

[Anonymous No.9414509]

>>9414487
he did the archvile!

[Anonymous No.9414521]

[Anonymous No.9414560]

>>9414521
zdoom wars is a good time, if you can find anyone still playing it

[Anonymous No.9414569]

>>9414560
Should we run it for SNS?

[Anonymous No.9414592]

In my endless quest of tinkering SRB2Kart, I am now changing the team names in friendmod. If you don't know, friendmod splits the race into teams, and these teams can have a variety of names. Picrel is the base team names, here's what I have for replacements so far
>Boom vs GZDoom
>Doomguy vs Master Chief
>Doomguy vs Doomslayer
>Graf Zahl vs Lilith
>Jules vs Tom
Feel free to make suggestions. They don't have to be retro FPS related but it would be preferred.

[Anonymous No.9414614]

>>9414592
>Duke vs Alien
>Caleb vs Tchernobog
>Lo Wang vs Zilla
>Ranger vs Shub-Niggurath

[Anonymous No.9414624]

>>9414592
>Filters vs Software

[Anonymous No.9414667]

>>9414592
Lions vs Sun

[Anonymous No.9414670]

>>9414592
>Pro Skub vs Anti Skub
>NSF vs UNATCO
>Pistolstart vs Continuous
>Cybbies vs Masterminds
>Herrington vs Darkholme
>HardCorps vs SinTek
>IdTech vs Build

[Anonymous No.9414674]

I just discovered Boom has translucent flags in addition to shadow flag, like spectre. But is it widely processed by different ports?
I figure I can use translucency to signal temporal invulnerability, but will it be noticed?

[Anonymous No.9414691]

>>9410612
ye, it's called "two and a half men"

[Anonymous No.9414756]

>>9414592
>Quake III vs Unreal Tournament
>Apogee vs 3D Realms
>UV Max vs Save States
>Carmack vs Romero
>Vanilla vs UDMF

[Anonymous No.9414760]

>>9412610
It's working, thanks.
Do you know what each difficulty level changes exactly?

[Anonymous No.9414761]

>>9414592
Apogee / 3D Realms vs. id
Shotgun vs Chaingun
Revenant vs Vore
Lord Blaz vs The Middle Shelf
Romero vs Petersen
/v vs r/
Heretic vs Hexen

[Anonymous No.9414775]

>>9414760
Also, can I tune down the headbob somehow?

[Anonymous No.9414781]

>>9414592
>cunny vs bbs
>ass vs titties

[Anonymous No.9414834]

>>9414592
>TNT vs Plutonia
>Ranger vs Shambler
>ENDOOM vs DSDA Doom

[Anonymous No.9414845]

>>9414592
>Half Life vs Unreal
>Half Life vs Sin

[Anonymous No.9414852]

>>9412626
what map?

[Anonymous No.9414904]

>>9414592
>Cacodemon vs Pain Elemental
>Zombiemen vs Grunts
>Wolfenstein 3D vs Rise of the Triad

[Anonymous No.9414910]

>>9414592
>Pro Ogay vs Anti Ogay

[Anonymous No.9414929]

>>9414760
>>9414781
Viewbob should be in HUD in the options menu. I like to set it around 0.05.

In 2063
Relaxed, spawn filter is Easy.
Standard is Hurt Me Plenty, just your normal difficulty with medium enemy count.
Arcade is Ultra-Violence, so the most enemies, but with Aggressiveness set to 1, so enemies attack more often.
Survival is Standard, but halved ammo pickups, enemies do double damage, but only have 75% health to compensate.
Apocalypse is Arcade, but enemies do double damage.

In Afterglow, Relaxed has 75% monster health and 0.5 Aggressiveness, but everything else is the same.

[Anonymous No.9415026]

So was it digital extremes that made the UT games or did they only work in multiplayer?

[Anonymous No.9415117]

What's more fun, a frag limit or a time limit?

[Anonymous No.9415135]

>>9415117
I'd rather have LMS because dying or taking damage has an actual weight to it that makes players not play recklessly, but then again deathmatch with a respawn timer is more fun because i've never been a fan of insta-respawn DM. It feels like a stressful race you have to keep sprinting a lot to catch up and any time you're doing nothing is wasted time and that especially applies to time limit based DM because once 1st place snowballs the fuck up, it's hard to make a comeback.

[Anonymous No.9415141]

>>9414592
>jannies vs money

[Anonymous No.9415153]

>>9414592
>Sigil vs Rekkr

[Anonymous No.9415159]

>>9415153
Did I miss something?

[Anonymous No.9415189]

Lol. Lmao even.

[Anonymous No.9415194]

What was actually supposed to be happening. Inspired by Nightmare Imps from Doom 64.

[Anonymous No.9415198]

>>9414845
>Half Life Vs Alf

[Anonymous No.9415203]

>>9415194
is this ZDoom Stealth Monsters in MBF21?

[Anonymous No.9415204]

>>9415203
MBF21

[Anonymous No.9415241]

>>9414592
>Doomworld vs Doomer Boards

[Anonymous No.9415253]

>>9408287

[Anonymous No.9415260]

>>9415253
now that's what I call "hell"

[Anonymous No.9415273]

>>9413516
What wad is this?

[Anonymous No.9415285]

>>9415253
ohio.wad

[Anonymous No.9415338]

>>9414756
Sandy vs Romero.

[Anonymous No.9415375]

I really like how Malcolm in Trailblazer constantly tosses out cigarettes. Fun character feature.

[Anonymous No.9415376]

>This picture was taken during DOOM development in 1993. This is the DOOM chainsaw sitting in a bucket, ready to be scanned by Kevin to create the image of the chainsaw in DOOM. The reason it's in a bucket is because it leaked oil! That's also why there's newspapers all around it. :) Heh heh, yes, the name of the chainsaw was Eager Beaver. The little Post-It Note next to the chainsaw says "Borrowed from Ann Graver Holz". Ann was Tom Hall's girlfriend at the time and since she had a chainsaw (Most of us apartment-dwellers did not own a chainsaw!), she let Tom borrow it. Tom, um, forgot to give it back to her.....so........it's still around. Tom is going to do something with it, probably sometime this year!

[Anonymous No.9415450]

>Finally completed level 39 of the unmaking after 2 hours even with saves
i know nobody cares but i feel proud of myself

[Anonymous No.9415518]

>>9415285

[Anonymous No.9415575]

>>9415376
why would his girlfriend have a chainsaw

[Anonymous No.9415585]

>>9414756
UT is such fucking shit, I have no idea how it persisted as a series after Q3. UT is so fucking unsatisfying to play, I almost wonder if the people who like it just never played Q3 to begin with.
>UT
>a bunch of robots, weird black guys with dread locks and mexican women wearing bright gaudy scifi armor shoot each other in disjointed environments using overdesigned, ugly weapons that feel piss weak to actually shoot, and everything is ugly as fuck
>Q3
>the arena shooter perfected. ridiculously fasted paced and brutal, balanced to perfection. deep movement mechanics, satisfying weapons. a visual delight with tastefully derivative and relatable design. incredible AI. incredible maps. deep customization options and endless user-made game modes and content.
UT is sinfully bad and i'm tired of pretending it isn't

[Anonymous No.9415601]

>>9415585
it's not so bad if you play on turbo though yeah almost every gun is OP

[Anonymous No.9415604]

>>9415601
>it's not so bad if you play on turbo though yeah almost every gun is OP
i wish the weapons were OP, maybe then they'd actually be fun to use. instead every weapon feels like it shoots peas and farts.

[Anonymous No.9415627]

>lawyer
>rip offs metal songs in a way that they can't sue him for ripoff
>demands high profits for his music when the game is ported to other platforms
>devs either just didn't include his music or made their own.

[Anonymous No.9415640]

>>9415585
Quake more like Quit lmao, the weapons can't possibly get any more generic, boring and unbalanced.

[Anonymous No.9415642]

>>9415585
>weapons that feel piss weak to actually shoot
All Unreal games had this problem, along with floaty physics. idk why this series ever made it big, maybe only because it was iterative and visible (the Tekken virgin vs the VF chad). Unreal 1998 benefited from graphics whores clinging to it as to a totem pole but no one marveled at UT the same way, and the basic mechanics were unfun.

[Anonymous No.9415651]

>>9415640
>generic
they're generic because each weapon has a specific role.
>boring and unbalanced.
now you've gone full retard. there is nothing boring about sinking an air rocket or pulling off a sick rail. there is nothing boring about packing quad on a shotgun and gibbing 3 people in a hallway with one shell. as for being unbalanced, Q3 has literally the most balanced weapons of any shooter ever made. if you believe they aren't balanced, you legitimately just don't understand the game. t. Q3 pro, come at me

[Anonymous No.9415656]

>>9415642
>Yes, this is an actual PC game screenshot
Huh, I couldn't tell from the fucked up UV mapping on the hand there.

[Anonymous No.9415662]

>>9414756
>Haha wouldn't it be funny if we made an unreal vs quake joke in this kart racer game themed around sonic the hedgehog?
>Sparks an unironic heated debate over the subject
lol

[Anonymous No.9415672]

>>9415642
unironically UT3 is the best game in the series. it's the only one where the weapons don't feel like you're shooting ping pong balls and wads of cum. of course everybody hated that one because it piggybacked on the gears of war art style, but the core mechanics are far and away better than 99 or 2K4. the older games just simply are not fun to play, baseline.

[Anonymous No.9415685]

>>9415575
if she lives in a house with garden trees and has to trim the branches because of safety regulations or maybe she uses firewood and doesn't want to swing an axe

[Anonymous No.9415691]

>>9415672
I disagree entirely on the grounds that UT3 stuns you for a bit whenever you fall from a height greater than a single jump, and that makes moving around feel like shit, but I'm a Quakefag, so that's probably why It bothers me so much.

[Anonymous No.9415703]

>>9415642
UT was a "better" game in terms of features, included game modes and level count, and composable mods (mutators). It also didn't need a 3D accelerator.
Of course Q3's gameplay was better, and its other issues were taken care of by the community.

[Anonymous No.9415714]

9415585
(You)

[Anonymous No.9415715]

>>9415642
if anything, UT's problem is that the physics aren't floaty enough. though it also means that you don't need to exploit movement bugs to git gud unlike a certain other series

[Anonymous No.9415747]

>>9415703
>UT was a "better" game in terms of features
nah, it had better features too. the difference is that UT made everything a menu option for goy retards, whereas in Q3 most of the options are locked behind console commands. 90% of people never bothered to actually look up the commands but you can do some crazy shit. god mode, all weapons, all powerups, low gravity, flight, damage and speed modifiers, bots with unique traits/personalities and 5 skill levels, bots you can have on your team and order issues, instagib, melee only... all the same stuff you can do in UT and more, out of the box with no mods.

[Anonymous No.9415760]

>>9415585
I couldn't disagree more. Q3 felt soulless because it was so generic. All the weapons were just minimal archetypes.

>generic shotgun
>generic RL
>generic railgun
>generic machinegun
They seemed terrified to do anything unique or interesting lest their playerbase screech at them, it reminds me of how games try to cater to esports tryhards and lose the plot even today.
Hell, the only new weapon, the BFG? Maybe they could try something new there? Nope you get a rocket launcher that fires faster.

The levels were just as generic and boring, vague red-brown or grey pallete and no theme, the two demo levels were the peak and it never got any more interesting.

Now, UT was the opposite in every way, almost all the weapons had something cool about them.
>shock rifle combo
>obliterating some sap with 6 rockets at once
>flak cannon is just great
>manually controlled homing nuke
>the translocator

Even the piston was much more interesting that le generic axe in Q3
yeah there was some gimmick stuff like the razorjack and biorifle but not everything has to be perfectly balanced, it felt more interesting that way.
Also the levels were 100x cooler and more memorable, you had underwater baes, moving trains, pirate ships, spaceships at warp speed, lava planet, facing worlds, most of them had neat and memorable designs.
The only thing I'll give you is that the most iconic map, facing worlds, was completely dogshit to play. Yeah it looked cool but damn

[Anonymous No.9415761]

>>9415715
>exploit movement bugs
the only real "movement bug" in Q3 is that jump height is slightly higher at exactly 125fps vs anything else (except 300 which makes it significantly higher but to a detriment, so nobody uses it). outside of that, basically all of the movement mechanics were intentional, including stuff like rocket jump, BFG jump, plasma climb, etc.

[Anonymous No.9415787]

>>9415760
>generic railgun
What's a good railgun in an FPS released before Q3A?

[Anonymous No.9415790]

Next time someone says that Q2 can't support AD stylished stuff, present them with ROOTS

[Anonymous No.9415794]

>>9415787
Quake 2 and Shadow Warrior

[Anonymous No.9415805]

>>9415760
you dislike the generic and archtypal weapon design for the exact reason i like it. i don't want a shotgun with some bullshit secondary fire mode or weird quirk. i want to have a shotgun that does exactly what a shotgun does, and feels good doing it. that goes for every other weapon. Q3 isn't about unique and original features or design -- it's about the perfection of design. if you want to create a highly competitive, streamlined game that perfects a genre, you want balance. creating weapons that have messy visual appearance and eccentric functions is not something that caters well to a game where things are supposed to be as pure and refined as possible. the entire point of an arena shooter is to be the ultimate test of skill, reflex and strategy, so things need clearly defined roles. Q3's weapons are generic from a visual perspective, but this also makes them incredibly recognizable and purposeful. the machinegun has an entirely different function than the rocket launcher, yet both are useful in different situations. the way the weapons synergize is what forms the basis of Q3's gameplay, which ultimately results in more variation than anything possible in UT despite its (superficially) more complex weapons. in effect, you're really arguing that UT is better because of completely subjective visual differences and ignoring the gameplay mechanics -- because Q3 has vastly, objectively, superior mechanics. why should i care if i'm using a shotgun or a "flak cannon"? i care about how the game feels to play, what it lets me do, and how far i can push the rules. UT tries to trick you into thinking that it's somehow "advanced" with all of its surface-level options, but the game is ultimately shallow and lacks the tech of Q3. UT is just kind of an ugly, disheveled game with no real identity that throws a bunch of offbeat maps and characters at you with weapons that try hard to feel unique, but are universally unsatisfying to use with poor audio-visual feedback.

[Anonymous No.9415810]

Who cares both games are dead
good riddance

[Anonymous No.9415824]

Back to hitting things

[Anonymous No.9415828]

My only gripe with Q3A's weapon roster is that they should've made the gauntlet get bonus damage based on your momentum and speed so you could rocketjump at lightspeed and pimp slap someone for instakill damage (assuming less than 50% armor)

[Anonymous No.9415830]

>>9415790

[Anonymous No.9415834]

>>9415828
I too, enjoy The Market Gardener in Team Fortress 2.

[Anonymous No.9415852]

>>9415828
widdle them down first or just get quad and you can still gib them mid air with gauntlet

[Anonymous No.9415856]

>>9415805
>perfection of design
>highly competitive, streamlined game that perfects a genre

Yeah I get it, I think the reason I didn't like Q3 is I never cared about that. I was pretty casual and just wanted a fun game, not a transcendent platonic ideal of a game to channel my mouse-flicking skills into while turning all the gfx settings to minimum to make it more abstract and readable.
I was the kinda kid who would go medic in TFC and try to infect everyone near the spawn so that the enemy base would be a cacophany of groans and MEDIC. Even though realistically there were more useful things I could be doing.

That's something I think gets overlooked, there's this notion that the competitive autists were the core of the game, that might be true now because everyone else left, but it wasn't true back then, most arena players were casual retards like me who just wanted to "play" and get some frags and maybe piss someone off by stealing the quad damage.

It's like maybe in 20 years there will be some group of 100 diehards playing fortnite who convince themselves that it's the ideal perfect expression of build-timing optimization or whatever (I dunno I never played it lol). But their "perfected" game is just an accidental meta that fell out of a game meant for casuals, who played it entirely differently

[Anonymous No.9415860]

>>9415760
Q3 is the hyper tryhard purist game and they just didn't have as much fun with the weapons. The rocket launcher in UT has like 5 different fire modes if you count all the combinations. Also I just remembered how an fps pro I knew back in the day seethed at the ripper and redeemer because they were "too spammy" KEK.

[Anonymous No.9415867]

>>9415760
i like how the sniper rifle was pretty much a railgun but you had to aim well for it

this can be hard on turbo (which no one plays for some reason)

[Anonymous No.9415868]

>>9415805
ffs... if someone needs proof that "reddit spacing" is a forced meme, just point them to this eyefuck.

[Anonymous No.9415869]

>>9415828
marathon fan detected

[Anonymous No.9415873]

what would the board be like if threads like this didn't exist?

[Anonymous No.9415874]

>>9415856
>not a transcendent platonic ideal of a game to channel my mouse-flicking skills into while turning all the gfx settings to minimum to make it more abstract and readable
it's okay if you're a casual player. the problem is that you were retarded and got fooled into thinking UT was the deeper casual experience. anything you want out of Q3, you can get. name one thing UT has that Q3 doesn't and i'll tell you how you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.9415875]

>>9415873
I find threads outside of this one to resemble /v/ more and more each passing day, so probably just /v/-lite.

[Anonymous No.9415876]

>>9415868
>can't read a paragraph
>endorses reddit spacing
go back

[Anonymous No.9415887]

>>9415876
paragraphs are "reddit spacing". zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.9415896]

>>9415887
that was a single paragraph. this is irrelevant though, since you need to go back.

[Anonymous No.9415903]

>>9415876
I use oh-so gay proper capitalization, and I break them up with gay little commas, and then I end them with a dainty period. And if it's long enough, I'll use the dreaded "reddit spacing" as well, because I'm a civilized human being. My countless ancestors did not die for me to write like a fucking chimpanzee.

[Anonymous No.9415913]

>>9415787
>>9415794
Especially Quake 2. The railgun in Q2 just FUCKS.

[Anonymous No.9415924]

I asked /vm/ for help regarding stat tracker, and I'll need at least one other person to run a few laps to see if it works. The IP is 51.161.34.159 as usual
I updated/added a few mods since last time, notably KRL_mauromania_v1.1.pk3, KRL_DigPack_v14.pk3 and KRL_DoshPak_v2.3.pk3, so you're going to want to grab those since they're too big for the in-game downloader.

[Anonymous No.9415926]

Acceptable fps to like: Doom, Quake, Unreal, Duke, Blood, Shadow Warrior, Dark Forces, Marathon, Cybermage, Strife, Hexen, Heretic, Sin, Shogo
Unacceptable: Half Life, COD, Halo, Nu Doom, Nu Wolfenstein, Serious Sam, Goldeneye, Timesplitters, FEAR, Perfect Dark, Overwatch, Counter Strike, Battlefield, MOH

[Anonymous No.9415929]

>>9415903
>he thinks responding to a post online should be formatted the same way as an essay because he's a giant cocksucking faggot, etc.
nope, sorry pseud. you won't see anybody greentexting in their thesis paper, but i guess we also shouldn't do that on 4chan according to you, since it isn't, uhh humm umm, grammatically correct. you have no understanding of subtlety, and in your attempt to pay respects to your ancestors, you've managed to not only end up on one of the most degenerate websites on earth, but failed at even using it well. congratulations, i'm sure your great grandfather is poking a hole through the clouds with his ethereal erection while he watches you 'properly' capitalize and punctuate your posts on an imageboard filled with transvestites and gore porn. shut the fuck up retard.

[Anonymous No.9415932]

>>9415924
Forgot the mod link: https://mega.nz/folder/YA1gEaZI#ORB7j-vSJ9IHaGnJGEQm7g

[Anonymous No.9415934]

nobody puts square in the corner

[Anonymous No.9415938]

>>9413884
nah it was not really not mainstream art. capeshit is.

[Anonymous No.9415941]

This is why 8moe is better

[Anonymous No.9415949]

[Anonymous No.9415950]

In retrospect, Kriegsland Enemies and MSXBlood were not good to play on Auger;Zenith because I'm getting 15fps on some of these later levels just walking around. I just did the mall and the last big fight sucked.

[Anonymous No.9415953]

>>9415941
filthy decadent youth and your chinese cartoons. back in the day we'd hide behind the washhouse and peek at the ladies sweating from the chest, working the laundry.

[Anonymous No.9415959]

>>9415926
Low effort troll. Where's "old" Wolfenstein? And Serious Sam rules, poseur.

[Anonymous No.9415961]

>>9415929
the 30+ rule needs to be strictly enforced on this board.

[Anonymous No.9415968]

>>9415961
>the 30+ rule needs to be strictly enforced on this board.
she's mad

[Anonymous No.9415973]

>>9415924
>>9415932
Is this updated to the newest CEP?

[Anonymous No.9415976]

>>9415973
It is not, it's using the same client as last time. I'm waiting for the /vm/ guys to play with it a little more to verify the newest one is in an actually stable condition.

[Anonymous No.9415983]

>>9414592
N64 vs PSX
Final Fantasy VII vs Ocarina of Time
Final Fantasy Tactics vs Tactics Ogre
Final Fantasy vs Dragon Quest
Doomguy vs Ranger
Mario vs Sonic
Reimu vs Marisa
Streets of Rage vs Final Fight
Traps are gay vs Traps aren't gay
You're a big guy vs Oh shit I'm sorry
Cute vs Funny
FNF vs SNS

[Anonymous No.9415992]

>>9414592
Carmack vs Carmack

[Anonymous No.9415996]

>>9415852
Ok but doesn't quack damage rockets also turn you into chunks of meat if you try to rocket jump

[Anonymous No.9415998]

>>9415996
if you have enough health/armor you'll be fine for one or two jumps

[Anonymous No.9416051]

>>9415874
xonotic and master arena exists dumbass.

[Anonymous No.9416056]

>>9416051
xonotic is pretty cool yeah.

i wonder what epic and id get out of not just releasing their old games for free though.

[Anonymous No.9416058]

>>9415651
>pulling off a sick rail
Railniggers should be gassed.

[Anonymous No.9416070]

>>9416056
>i wonder what epic and id get out of not just releasing their old games for free though.
Nostalgiabux. The real bafflement is why Epic didn't put any of their back catalog on their own store, that's free cash they're ignoring.

[Anonymous No.9416073]

>try legend of zelda doom mod
>go to first dungeon
>pick up the bow
>can already use it
>didn't need to go to the store and buy the arrow
that mod was shit and i have now quit playing

[Anonymous No.9416078]

unreal destroyed id

[Anonymous No.9416081]

>>9416078
unreal destroyed its self with the second real game
(real meaning single player and not garbage multiplayer only)

[Anonymous No.9416085]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw0GN5mvWic
master arena is so cool, but nobody plays.
why nobody likes arena shooters?

[Anonymous No.9416087]

>>9416081
the only thing people remembers is the unreal tournament series nobody cares about the original unreal series.

[Anonymous No.9416094]

>>9416087
ya but most hate multiplayer as much as i do so unreal tournament does not count

[Anonymous No.9416113]

[Anonymous No.9416117]

>>9416056
>i wonder what epic and id get out of not just releasing their old games for free though.
Tim Epic doesn't want zoomers to know that they used to make games that were actually good out of fear that they might get uppity and stop buying Fartnite skins. He's wrong though - zoomers are terminally retarded.
>>9416085
>why nobody likes arena shooters?
The lack of a singleplayer element probably kills most le ebic throwback arena shooters for anyone not already playing Quake 3 every day. It helps players learn the game, and, even if they're perfectly content with the singleplayer, the very fact they have the game open may entice them to go online. This gives a sort of incidental longevity to the game.

[Anonymous No.9416119]

>>9416070
It seems like most people just pirate Q3 and UT though. Who the fuck would pay 15$ for Q3 in 2022?

[Anonymous No.9416125]

[Anonymous No.9416126]

>>9416119
People who buy the full Quake series pack on a Steam sale and get it for 20 cents.

[Anonymous No.9416130]

>>9416125
BAD
go to your box

[Anonymous No.9416158]

>>9416117
doombringer and quake enhanced had campaigns and nobody plays the multiplayer modes.

[Anonymous No.9416171]

>>9414592
SSG vs RL
Plasma vs BFG
Tech vs Hell
Puyo Puyo vs Tetris
Puyo Puyo vs Panel de Pon
Roll Caskett vs Tron Bonne
PSX Mega Man Zero vs GBA Mega Man Zero
Remake vs Original
Oracle of Seasons vs Oracles of Ages
Pokemon vs Digimon
Earthbound vs Mother 3
Metroid Fusion vs Zero Mission

[Anonymous No.9416178]

what do u guys think of the ray traced prboom fork

[Anonymous No.9416185]

>>9416178
i'm a big fan or ray tracing in general but it looks too glossy(shiny cement and pavement) and the lights are not diffused enough
it looks unnatural in a bad way

[Anonymous No.9416187]

>>9416178
i wish people woulds stop supporting PRboom

[Anonymous No.9416189]

>>9416185
i mean look at that.
the barrel glow is just ridiculous

[Anonymous No.9416208]

>>9416178
>ray tracing
>2.5D engine
Should have been an obvious mistake from the start.

[Anonymous No.9416215]

>>9416208
most doom source ports stopped being 2.5d a long time ago

[Anonymous No.9416246]

>>9415924
Stat tracker still doesn't want to work, I'll ask /vm/ until they tell me to fuck off. Here's some other things.
>The CEP client got updated. It's extremely likely that we will switch to it before next SNS.
>The voice clips for Remilia and Marisa in KC_VR_Twowhos_v2.pk3 kind of suck and are open for replacement.
>I might make some maps. You should make maps too.

[Anonymous No.9416247]

>>9415790
>>9415830
I'm not as familiar with Quake 2 shaders and such, which port and shader setup is this?

[Anonymous No.9416257]

>>9415790
It's more that the audience isn't there for it until it gets an actual AD style mod with new enemies, weapons, etc. that sets a new standard for mapping for Quake II. But that probably won't ever happen, especially not after Mjolnir releases which is shaping up to be one of the biggest mods ever.

[Anonymous No.9416287]

>>9416073
well, i forgot this existed, i find it fun, totally forgot where level 3 is though. what i think sucks more than your nitpick, is that there is no way that i know of, to secondary fire arrows while having the sword out. its always gonna be the boomerang, which is fine, i suppose, since boomerang rapes. what are the different difficulty options all about? i picked hard and its pretty easy so far.

[Anonymous No.9416293]

>>9416073
>>9416287
Try the Past Linked set in Combined_Arms instead. That Zelda mod angers me.
Last time I checked, the shield scales with HUD size which is fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.9416295]

Okay, that's A;Z finished. Last level was a bit choppy. And it has new game plus, that's kinda cool.

Next. I've been meaning to do this for a while. I just had a thought Trailblazer would be funny to go through this because it wouldn't be too great for a doctor to smoke and leave a bunch of cigarette butts inside a patient, but I'm committed to this already.

>>9416293
Past-Linked is really good.

[Anonymous No.9416318]

>>9415376
It's obviously a bowl, not a bucket.

[Anonymous No.9416330]

>>9416293
>the shield scales with HUD size which is fucking stupid
looks like that was "fixed" but still looks pretty funny. tiny hand is tiny.

[Anonymous No.9416346]

Are there any wads where you have all the weapons from the beginning and it's still fun? Or does the lack of progression in terms of weapons (and thus probably enemies) make things bland?
Where I'm coming from: I've been playing Dota lately and there's this character called 'Invoker' that has interesting spell casting mechanics. Without going into too much detail, there are different color coded magic components tied to keys inputs, and depending on how you combine them you get different passive stats as well as spell choices. Basically you need to make small input combos to cast different spells. It could easily be adapted into a wad and I think it would be fun... but I see a problem with having all "weapons" (spells) from the beginning.
I suspect it works well in pvp arena matches but wouldn't work so much in a single player campaign game.

[Anonymous No.9416394]

>>9416346
combining runes or elements to get different spells is in many games, ranging from slow-paced Ultima Underworld & Arx Fatalis, to straight action like Lichdom Battlemage, to stuff like Magicka and some Diablo clones (including DOTA, sort of).
I think the fun in the system would be mostly down to how you use the enemies, without the full rock-paper-scissors approach the player will just default to some consistent workhorse spell, and the entire system would turn into a waste of time. on the other hand, making enemies immune to all but one type of damage (like in nuDoom dlc) is also annoying as fuck.

[Anonymous No.9416415]

>>9416346
All endgame fps games besides nu-Doom eventually become swapping between your three, maybe four, most powerful guns. So make three or four really powerful spells that complement each other like a rapid fire freeze spell (think Douk), with a slow and powerful kinetic one, etc.

[Anonymous No.9416537]

>>9415627

[Anonymous No.9416548]

>>9408287

[Anonymous No.9416652]

>>9416548
didn't he removed that weapon?

[Anonymous No.9416740]

>>9416548
>Doom Pong
Dong

[Anonymous No.9416754]

>>9416295
>And it has new game plus, that's kinda cool.
Huh?

[Anonymous No.9416769]

This is such a cool map, you can even get tentacle'd by acid-spewind cuttlefish in it...

[Anonymous No.9416770]

>>9416257
Which sucks for all parties involved, because knowing the circlejerk, it will be forced shilling everywhere, even here because they need an excuse to shit on other id software games or other classic fps to compensate their fragile ego.
Which is funny because the entire premisse is stealing everything DOOM does and better, cementing and proving even more the ol "quake 1 community hates doom out of jealousy" words off scuba steve

[Anonymous No.9416872]

Why aren't third person shooters as beloved or memorable as FPS?

[Anonymous No.9416878]

uploaded this collection of usermade Duke Maps from the mid-late 90s.
https://archive.org/details/dukeUserMaps

If anyone would appreciate them, it'd be u guys.

[Anonymous No.9416896]

I love how doom 3 goes from "it is piss easy" to "FUCK THESE FUCKING GAY ASS PLUTONIA TRAPS" from post hell delta complex and onwards.

[Anonymous No.9416902]

>>9416872
Most TPS were just taking part of the “cover shooter” fad, kind of like that period of failed CoD clones.

[Anonymous No.9416904]

>>9416872
Fuck off, MDK is the best.

[Anonymous No.9416906]

>>9416872
because they're not as good

[Anonymous No.9416907]

>>9416872
I don't know what you mean, anon.

[Anonymous No.9416915]

>>9416770
>Which is funny because the entire premisse is stealing everything DOOM does and better, cementing and proving even more the ol "quake 1 community hates doom out of jealousy" words off scuba steve
Limit that to Q1SPfags, Quakeworld guys are chill, more or less.

[Anonymous No.9417005]

>>9415662
I will never make a joke again. I didn't know what I would unleash upon this thread.

[Anonymous No.9417015]

>>9415662
Ha-ha, imagine playing either over CS anyway.

[Anonymous No.9417017]

>>9416770
>>9416915
kinda sucks that q1 singleplayer gets more appreciation at the cost of elitism and people insisting "this is the only way quake should be"
when retro fps modding started from carmack having "hacker beliefs" and wanting to make stuff open and accessable to people as possible
specially when there's a sense of equality so even less popular games can get some lost or at least aren't entirely lost in time
even worse when you consider that a certain sheep is a very recent member in the community and is trying too hard to impose himself as a know-it-all

[Anonymous No.9417042]

>>9417005
I added it anyway because it was good and fitting.
Back on topic, another thing friendmod has is a boss mode where one racer becomes a boss and gains a unique title in the form of a prefix, suffix, or both. Basic examples using player name "anon"
>Dark Anon
>Hyper Anon
>Liquid Anon
>Anon Prime
>Anon X
>Anon With a Gun
These are also open to suggestions, so go nuts.

[Anonymous No.9417073]

>>9416247
its yamagiq2 under vulkan and reshade

[Anonymous No.9417089]

>>9417042
>BF Anon 9000
>Anon Rising
>Anon Nukem
>Crudux Anon
>Anon, all outta gum
>HFF Anon
>Knightly Anon
>Stroggified Anon
>Brutal Anon
>Anon using LUA cheats
>M-M-M-Monster Anon

[Anonymous No.9417169]

kek, some bastard son of a whore reported my link to the Doom 3 expansion in the OP
this is what I get for being nice

[Anonymous No.9417182]

>>9417169
Does anyone even use the links in the OP to download the games? Isn't it easier to just point people to archive.org and old-games ru?

[Anonymous No.9417185]

>>9417182
well the pk4 files weren't easily available for download anywhere, i think i had to go through the stupid steps of installing the game and then installing the xp and then updating it
so yeah, that's all gone because of some chucklefuck
stupidly didn't even back it up because i didn't think people did shitty things like that to protect le heckin billionairino corpshits anymore

[Anonymous No.9417186]

>>9417169
Apparently it's some dude who hangs in some drawthread on some board who just got butt apocalypsed over some stupid and insignificant thing and now goes through all the threads on all the boards reporting all the megas and stuff like that.

Mental illness is real.

[Anonymous No.9417190]

>>9417186
yeah, it's why we just can't have good things
well thats the last time i help 4chan

[Anonymous No.9417193]

>>9417190
The rest of us appreciate contributions, and I like to help out at times. Don't let thunderfaggots like those win.

[Anonymous No.9417197]

>>9417185
>stupidly didn't even back it up because i didn't think people did shitty things like that to protect le heckin billionairino corpshits anymore
I'd assume some sort of malice to community first, rather than real anti-piracy shit.

[Anonymous No.9417202]

>>9417197
Oh I know. The outcome is the same in the end however.

[Anonymous No.9417203]

>>9417185
>i didn't think people did shitty things like that to protect le heckin billionairino corpshits anymore
I mean to be fair, rules are rules, so it's kind of a you problem for putting it on a website that enforces that sort of content policy.

[Anonymous No.9417215]

>>9416769
It's funny how you don't get The Shaft untill the end segment's secret area here, yet you're fully stocked on cells from dead Enforcers about halfway thru the level

[Anonymous No.9417228]

>>9415761
i was mostly talking about stuff like strafe jumping and bhop, which carmack personally disliked and wanted to patch out of QW

[Anonymous No.9417264]

>>9416872
Imagine having to choose instead of being able to switch. Become Sampilled.

[RandomQuake1fag No.9417271]

>>9417215
>all secrets found, now I can leave this dimension to dick around in another thing I wanted to try out decades after learning about it. . .
X-men TC is ready to unpack

[Anonymous No.9417278]

>>9417042
>Dan "Anon" Shneider
>Anon got the shotgun
>IDFA IDDQD Anon
>UV-Anon
>Anon, the Bruiser Brother
>Icon of Anon
>Quad Damage Anon
These are kinda weak but damn there's not much good bosses in retro fps games

[Anonymous No.9417280]

>>9417271
>X-men TC
You mean that official commercial one? I heard it sucks major balls

[Anonymous No.9417285]

>>9417280
It's cool that there is one in the first place.

[Anonymous No.9417309]

>>9417280
Someone wanted me to play thru the SP as the Multiplayer characters, no idea how that will work but whatever - most of the protags weaponry is quite gimmicky I've heard but as long as they aren't gonna be as terrible as the Bolo from ATF, I'll think otherwis

[Anonymous No.9417313]

>>9417285
I strongly recommend turning on coop 1 and playing as one of the MO characters, their abilities are all more fun than Cyborg's. Especially if you pick one of the flying characters and get to disrespect chunks of the level progression.

[Anonymous No.9417319]

>>9417309
>no idea how that will work but whatever
It just replaces the melee attack with the character's powerset, you still get to keep the guns. The game would be uncompletable if you didn't, there's a couple of bits where you have to put grenades down holes, and shootable switches don't respond to melee-only characters like Rogue. Also you need the flamethrower or the explosives to kill Iceman permanently, and you can't even damage the bosses without finishing the superweapon.

[Anonymous No.9417341]

>>9417186
"snitches get stiches"
there has to be some kind of ban that prevents banned users from even looking at threads, as if the sites become blocked by their isp or browser
an actual ban, not just "oops can't post"
but then there's 4chan archive sites, so they'll still find ways
one day, 4chan will have to be like exhentai

[Anonymous No.9417360]

>>9417042
>Final Anon
>The Ultimate Anon
>Anon Atomic Edition
>Unreal Anon [your favorite unreal tournament here]
>Arena Lord Anon
>Friday Night Anon
>Sunday Night Anon
>Anon on Steroids
>Anon on Vitamin X
>Combined Anon
>Anon Zahl
>Arch Anon
>Anon Niggurath
>Berserk Anon
>One Eighth of Anon Has Been Solved
>Perfect Anon
>Cycloid Anon
>Protozoid Anon

[Anonymous No.9417365]

>>9417360
>Anon Zahl
>not Graf Anon
https://youtu.be/yuzCcwD2qYI

[Anonymous No.9417371]

>>9417360
>Unreal Anon Pre-Alpha Season
IT HURTS

[Anonymous No.9417393]

>>9417371
Don't worry, UT4 will resume development when Fortnite stops being popular.

[Anonymous No.9417446]

>>9416872
the Ratchet & Clank series is one of my favorites

[Anonymous No.9417448]

>>9417042
Hard Fast Friendly Anon

[Anonymous No.9417453]

>>9417341
>How do I get past the Yotsuba

[Anonymous No.9417461]

>>9417341
Funnily enough, that's how it was in the 4chan of yesteryear. If you were banned, you couldn't see the site. Bans were handed out like candy too, if you replied to a thread and the OP got banned, you and everyone else would get banned too.

[Anonymous No.9417463]

>>9417446
And with an in-game cheat, it can become a really cool fps series. I hope they get ported to pc one day.

[Anonymous No.9417478]

>>9417463
I also like Shadow the Hedgehog but that's more of an ironic guilty pleasure.

[Anonymous No.9417480]

>>9417478

[Anonymous No.9417561]

The big question; How can you make a third person shooter that’s better than just playing Doom/Quake/Build/Sam in third person?

[Anonymous No.9417574]

>>9417561
Theoretically Third Person Shooters could ask/demand more of the player due to the extra situational awareness awarded by the exterior camera.
You could, hypothetically, make a TPS faster-paced and more punishing before it crosses the line into unfair territory compared to an FPS.

[Anonymous No.9417575]

>>9415924
I put up another test server for stat tracker, no new mods from yesterday. All I need is for someone to finish a race around my idle player to see if it works.

[Anonymous No.9417580]

>>9417561
ya

[Anonymous No.9417596]

>>9417575
And it doesn't work. Thanks for testing though.

[Anonymous No.9417604]

>>9417042
>Anon CX
>Blue-Eyes White Anon

[Anonymous No.9417623]

>>9417561
Heretic 2
Jedi Academy

[Anonymous No.9417690]

>>9417596
/vm/ got back to me with another proposed solution so I'll be idling in the server again if you want to give it another shot.

[Anonymous No.9417693]

>got a new PC with a fucking RTX 3080 in it
>first thing I wanna do is play Doom (because that'll totally stress the hardware lmao)
>realize all my wads are on my old PC
>don't even have a good reaction image, since those are also on my old PC
Fuck

[Anonymous No.9417701]

>>9417360
>One Eighth of Anon Has Been Solved
KEK

[Anonymous No.9417738]

someone's attempt at a classic quake champions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHEDh3h_n5c
also has anyone done mods for wolf 3d based off machinegames wolfenstein?

[Anonymous No.9417747]

>>9415194
Are they intangible during the phase?
Currently Disciples of D'Sparil can't do the phasing thing in MBF21, I would love to add that effect to them.

[Anonymous No.9417752]

>>9415253
The real nightmare is that you didn't disable mouselook so your character is looking up ever so slightly every time you move forward and you keep having to reset it. You're probably doing it subconsciously, but it's disorienting as shit. Stop it.

[Anonymous No.9417758]

>>9417561
Environment interactivity, playing as a big tiddy sexoooo girl with detailed and varied ryona defeat / death animations?

But when I think of something like Max Payne and what makes those games cool, I think it's the slowdowns that the whole "the entire environment exploding around me as the bullets impact the place, cinematic camera angles kicking in" kinda things, also as much as people hate the cover systems, I think MP3 worked really well with those.

And also incorporating seamless melee, melee works just inherently better in third person than first person.

[Anonymous No.9417776]

>>9417690
That was a bust.
I might put up a game at 6 tomorrow, no tests or anything, just to play.

[Anonymous No.9417794]

>>9416754
The last level of Auger;Zenith has a button that sends you back to the first level but doesn't reset your inventory.

[Anonymous No.9417798]

>>9417623
>Jedi Academy
Actually shooting in third person isn't that viable though, unless you turn off that joke of a dynamic crosshair and reeeaaally get a feel for where each weapon tends to shoot. Still a great game, but Outcast is better.

[Anonymous No.9417825]

>>9417574
>Theoretically Third Person Shooters could ask/demand more of the player due to the extra situational awareness awarded by the exterior camera.
>You could, hypothetically, make a TPS faster-paced and more punishing before it crosses the line into unfair territory compared to an FPS.
I like this response, it’s a solid take on how a third person camera could make a shooter better. A melee emphasis isn’t what I’m looking for, and besides: There’s plenty of great third person “melee” action games, not many Dark Messiah-likes.

[Anonymous No.9417978]

fuckin around with this, it's kinda fun

[Anonymous No.9417980]

>>9417978
Phallic.

[Anonymous No.9417985]

I finished Ashes 2063 and just started Afterglow. It seems it runs worse than the first episode, I got some minor stuttering despise using the exact same settings. What gives?

[Anonymous No.9418020]

>>9417978
benis :DDD

[Anonymous No.9418024]

>>9417980
>>9418020
I don't see it, and a lot of other people have seen this already. I think you boys are corrupted.

[Anonymous No.9418025]

>>9417574
I think that would have been true 10 years ago, but Devil Daggers was released, and then Ultrakill, and now Hyper Demon.

[Anonymous No.9418028]

>>9418025
Oh and not joking but Doom Eternal as well.

[Anonymous No.9418038]

I'm not sure you get what's being talked about there, but that's fine. Thread's about to go quiet anyways.

[Anonymous No.9418043]

>>9417978
Oh. Oh my.

[Anonymous No.9418047]

>>9417985
Bigger levels.

[Anonymous No.9418050]

>>9417825
I really don't agree. Increase movement capabilities of your character and you can easily add more hectic gameplay to an fps.
>>9418038
Were you talking to me?

[Anonymous No.9418058]

>>9418050
>Increase movement capabilities of your character and you can easily add more hectic gameplay to an fps.
take that and ask/demand more of the player through extra situational awareness from the camera and that's like twice the hectic bro

[Anonymous No.9418065]

>>9418058
That's true, but what I'm driving at is the gameplay matters way, way more than the camera and it was just a weird discussion that was going in the wrong directions.

[Anonymous No.9418079]

>>9418065
>That's true, but what I'm driving at is the gameplay matters way, way more than the camera
It's a discussion about how the gameplay can be affected by the camera, though.

[Anonymous No.9418084]

>>9418079
Yes, but the resultant discussion about a tps theoretically being faster is almost entirely null and void. Max Payne 1 has some pretty wild fights in it because Max has slow motion, diving, weapons reload when diving, and all bullets/pellets are projectiles so the player can move more freely within gun fights. The third person camera almost does nothing except let Max look cool while killing shit. Vanquish had a dedicated dodge button, sliding, etc. where again the third person camera just lets Sam look cool.
tl;dr make the game good the camera almost doesn't matter at all in fps vs tps

[Anonymous No.9418098]

>>9418084
>Yes, but the resultant discussion about a tps theoretically being faster is almost entirely null and void.
I think you're just having a knee-jerk reaction to seeing "faster-paced", because it was in the context of throwing more shit at the player because their view isn't as restricted.

[Anonymous No.9418106]

>>9418098
It doesn't actually matter if it was knee jerk or a years in the making PhD dissertation. The gameplay matters way more and the camera contributes very little except how the game looks, not how it plays.

[Anonymous No.9418108]

>>9418106
Fuck forgot to say pic related is me and my brain when talking about this.

[Anonymous No.9418114]

>>9418047
So's Highway Holocaust and the first map of Dead Man Walking and those run silky smooth. Plus modern computers should be able to handle large maps, this is still 90's tech.

[Anonymous No.9418124]

>>9418106
Blood in first person "plays the same" as Blood in third person, but one lets you prepare for encounters far better when approaching them. That's been the discussion, not the blaring realization that these games control and play the same in chasecam.

[Anonymous No.9418134]

>>9418124
If your game's most interesting aspect and selling point is
>We went with a third person camera because that perspective gives players a better view of the battle so we could make encounters more challenging
Then your game is fucking boring dude and I'm not interested. See my Max Payne example for further clarification. It's just a dumb discussion.

[Anonymous No.9418146]

>>9418134
>we realized we could make encounters more interesting when they weren't limited by a first person perspective
That's potentially a "tell me more" situation. They may end up justifying the choice, and I'm not restricting myself solely to games that are played from the first person perspective - because what matters more is that they make the game good, right?

[Anonymous No.9418154]

>>9418146
>and I'm not restricting myself solely to games that are played from the first person perspective
Of course not. TPS have an innate presentation advantage like characters looking cool. But the discussion was for gameplay and it was dumb thanks for coming to my seminar in summary make a good game first and foremost.

[Anonymous No.9418168]

>>9418154
>TPS have an innate presentation advantage like characters looking cool.
And seeing more around you, behind you, around corners, all the moreso based on camera distance and height...
I'd like to think you've been the dumbest part of this discussion, but I do keep responding to you.

[Anonymous No.9418182]

>>9418168
Holy shit dude if that's your game's most interesting selling point - to see around fucking corners - then I promise it's not a very interesting game.

[Anonymous No.9418210]

SNS Kart things: I've given up on stat tracker. Nothing I do seems to make persistent saving work and we're not going to be loading it anymore. On a lighter note, we've got plenty more maps and an extra new game mode from last time that should keep you entertained, I'm sure you won't be disappointed.

[Anonymous No.9418241]

It's funny how this shit was already solved in MP
There's no way people would play shit like Gunz the Duel in first person without getting sick or losing their target.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1SZjjswEpM

[Anonymous No.9418351]

Making a new thread.

[Anonymous No.9418352]

>>9418351
Don't fuck up the links this time

[Anonymous No.9418367]

>>9418360
>>9418360
>>9418360
>>9418360
New thread. Removed the broken MEGA links in the OP for the time being.

[Anonymous No.9418605]

>>9417747
They are interactible. You can remove shootable flag to make them invincible, but it might screw the infighting.

[Anonymous No.9418812]

>Hexen2 has a BSP->MAP decompiler for QArK
>Quake1 does not despite having an active modding community
I don't get it . .