/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9399681]

How did this get such amazing reviews? Judged as a next-gen game it's nothing special.

[Anonymous No.9399684]

>>9399681
Its combat system

[Anonymous No.9399715]

>>9399684
standards for JRPGs are really damn low...

[Anonymous No.9399739]

>>9399681
MC isn't a retarded self-insert.

[Anonymous No.9399790]

>>9399715
This was great for its time, unless you can name a better jarpig combat system from that time, which you can't

[Anonymous No.9399842]

>unique pseudo turn based combat with enough depth to make no damage combat possible
>generic but well executed anime story that unlike every other anime RPG has some actual fucking pacing
>dope soundtrack
>dub had half the cast of MGS1
definitely butt fucking ugly though. Not like jarpig fans give a shit as long as there are anime portraits in the corners of the screen for them to ogle during dialogue

[Anonymous No.9399847]

>>9399681
it was a slow month for the Dreamcast

[Anonymous No.9399950]

i liked it :)

[Anonymous No.9399979]

>>9399681

[Anonymous No.9399980]

>>9399681
It has good writing, the characters are pretty charming, and the combat is really cool. A shame everything moves at such a slow pace though. I played it on steam and used the cheat engine speed hack and it increased my enjoyment with the game by a substantial amount.

[Anonymous No.9399981]

>>9399790
>>9399842
>jarpig
jump into traffic buzzword spouting freaks

[Anonymous No.9399987]

>>9399981
You have to go back, sweaty

[Anonymous No.9400000]

>>9399842
It was one of the only jrpgs for dreamcast too, exclusive for a time

[Anonymous No.9400002]

>>9399981
dilate you weeaboo fuck

[Anonymous No.9400004]

>>9400000

[Anonymous No.9400006]

>>9399681
In 2000 this was far from "nothing special" and it should entertain you today because it has same genuine stuff to it.
>Low poly
>Great soundtrack
>Cool anime story like voltron or some shit
>Good english voicecast
>Amazing framerate and specials until FFX2 came out
>Very fun and fast combat system
>Hot demon waifu
>Really fucking amazing robot waifu that was fun as fuck to cancel boss attacks with

I mean, game rocked in 2000. Now? It only appeals to certain tastes I guess. The first two games were AMAZING and so is the 3rd if you like dungeon crawlers. 4th . . . ehhh

[Anonymous No.9400241]

>>9399842
>definitely butt fucking ugly though
For sure. Despite this probably being my all-time favorite JRPG this is my biggest criticism of it.
Part of me thinks it's down to overall aesthetics and stylistic choices (the character designs are some of the weakest in the series as well, for example). I can understand the in-game graphics being dated, but they picked the most drab palettes for a good chunk of the dungeons and overworld fields.
Not to mention the move to CGI for the FMVs was a mistake for the series. Grandia 1 had a clean and stylistic anime for characters, whilst using CGI for monsters and backgrounds. Somehow it didn't clash and actually still holds up. Meanwhile the characters in Grandia 2's FMVs look like they were made from Play-Doh.
I know back then JRPGs were all attempting to make that leap to entirely 3D visuals, but in Grandia's case it feels like they were trying to fix something that wasn't broken.

[Anonymous No.9400426]

>>9399979
Mommy..

[Anonymous No.9400468]

>>9400002
It's not 2004 anymore.

[Anonymous No.9400609]

>>9399684
its combat system is even worse than the first game.

[Anonymous No.9400680]

>>9399681
Nah this shit rules

[Anonymous No.9400684]

>>9399987
Says the guy spouting shit he got from youtube celebs

[Anonymous No.9400718]

>>9400002
Posting to see what buzzwords this kid shits out next

[Anonymous No.9400865]

>>9399980
>good writing
I beat it and only recall there being a tough boss early on or near the middle. Literally don't recall anything else as I beat it one time and never played it again. I beat mgs twice and can somehow recall almost everything from that game.

[Anonymous No.9400983]

>>9400006
You and me are probably the only two people on /vr/ who rate G3. I loved it despite its flaws.

[Anonymous No.9400993]

>>9399681
Because it was on a Sega console. Besides moneyhatting like crazy, Sega also had like 20 magazines that never gave shitty reviews

Sega Saturn Magazine, Sega Power, Sega Pro, Sega X, Dreamcast.net, AllDreamcast, DC Swirl, EGM, Sega Saturn Magazine and a lot more

Every game on a Sega console is overrated and, yes, usually fucking garbage. Jet Set Radio is the best example

Grandia 2 on PS2 barely has 60 or 70% on Metacritic last time I checked

>>9399684
lol

[Anonymous No.9401002]

>>9400993

[Anonymous No.9401014]

>>9401002
This picture gets more retarded each time you see it and the longer you read it

[Anonymous No.9401020]

>>9401014
The categorization doesn't even make sense
>comparing Mega Man and Strider 2 with Kirby 64
At least pick Goemon 2

[Anonymous No.9401038]

>>9400993
Not the whole reason but this is part of it. Panzer Dragoon is in no way a 95% game.

[Anonymous No.9401209]

>>9400983
NTA but by 3rd game he's talking about Xtreme here (the dungeon crawler), not G3.

[Anonymous No.9401298]

>>9400609
I guess if you're an idiot I could see believing that

[Anonymous No.9401302]

>>9400000
mirn'

[Anonymous No.9401307]

>>9399681
>amazing reviews
as far as I remember it got 6/10 in a magazine I used to read. It was very average and much worse than Grandia I.

[Anonymous No.9401346]

>>9400983
Grandia 3 was completely ruined by its endless and relentlessly terrible unskippable cutscenes. The actual game part was pretty good

[Anonymous No.9401356]

>>9401346
Even the actual game-part was meh because the encounters were super repetitive. I don't remember if Grandia II had the same issue but every encounter I'd run into was effectively the exact same fight for each level.

[Anonymous No.9401359]

>>9401307
Truly spoken like someone that only bothered reading about it in some shit magazine instead of playing it himself.

[Anonymous No.9401362]

>>9401359
I still have the physical version for PC.

[Anonymous No.9401365]

>>9400993
Sounds like a Chad thing to do desu

[Anonymous No.9401368]

>>9400993
>Every game on a Sega console is overrated and, yes, usually fucking garbage. Jet Set Radio is the best example
You need to fuck off right now

[Anonymous No.9401384]

While we're at it; what makes Grandia 1 so much better on the Saturn then the PS1?
I've never emulated Saturn so PS1 would be the comfier choice

[Anonymous No.9401596]

The story is weirdly like a completed Berserk. The Eye of Valmar section seemed similar to the Lost Children/Misty Valley arc. Valmar itself seems like idea of evil, humanity chose evil God to give life meaning.
Grandia 1s message was you can achieve anything if you try hard enough. Grandia 2's is that humanity doesn't need Gods good or bad to exist. Both decent messages, themes.

[Anonymous No.9401673]

>>9399681
because dreamcast only had 3 JRPG back then in 2000/2001.

[Anonymous No.9401705]

>>9401384
When does Grandia 1 stop being so insanely boring and get good? Grandia 2 is hit and miss but every time I try Grandia 1 its combat is boring and its story is such low-tier anime trash I can never bring myself to finish it..

[Anonymous No.9401707]

>>9401384
it's not "so much better", it just looks a little better, with textures that are a little nicer
honestly saturn version doesn't look particularly good (and that's the one I did play, no sour grapes), but might as well emulate that one

[Anonymous No.9401710]

>>9401368
Not sure what annoyed you but JSR is barely a playable game today
>that entire tutorial phase
>total shit physics and 0 depth after Tony Hawk's
>just running around and spraying on walls

[Anonymous No.9401715]

>>9401384
Visuals and performance. The game literally has twice as much detail on Saturn than PS1. That's the big thing. I mean this in every sense, it can be measured. For example the battle backgrounds are half resolution on PS1. World geometry is missing shadows on PS1 (everything is shadowed on saturn), several effects are flat out removed like rolling waves in water. Some PlayStation things look comically bad like the floor graphics in all 3D areas, instead of having meticulously placed details they instead had to settle for large repeating polygon meshes which when zoomed out reveal all kinds of nastiness so things like the map screen feel way off and navigating up close shows there's no rhyme or reason for the design of the roads in towns that was there in the Saturn version. It's just a massive visual downgrade.

[Anonymous No.9401835]

>>9400865
Ok, well I beat it about 8 years ago, and I still remember most of the game, it's story, bosses, and characters.

Our single perspectives aren't anything definitive to go by. This is why "forgettable" is a meaningless buzzword.

[Anonymous No.9402113]

>>9401298
nice rebuke there, i really like the part where you provided no evidence and just kind of attacked the character of the person. really drove your point home, faggot

[Anonymous No.9402117]

>>9401710
>JSR is barely a playable game today
>that entire tutorial phase
Game plays fine, the tutorial is like 5 minutes if you aren't retarded
>total shit physics and 0 depth after Tony Hawk's
Physics are fine, it's not trying to be THPS and you're demonstrably retarded for thinking that it is.
>just running around and spraying on walls
OK? Mario is just running around and jumping. Stop fucking typing. Don't (You) me.

[Anonymous No.9402123]

>>9402113
fuck you too

[Anonymous No.9402135]

>>9399681
>amazing reviews
Wasn't critically panned?

[Anonymous No.9402161]

>>9402123
get better taste.