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[Anonymous No.9397408]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>9387565

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more):
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives:
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series:
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
Doom 3 Resurrection of Evil:
https://mega.nz/file/BzxyGBBZ#cHtxsid-0wpeFltrPAYCStiwYCXshndXUCfOEXSP7gs
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://rentry.org/8ca3061522e0

[Anonymous No.9397409]

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
UNRATTLED
Deadline: November 28th
Rules: >>9384165
Texture Pack: https://files.catbox.moe/ypj8oo.zip

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
AD MORTEM PHASE 2
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125461

94 PROTONS OF /vr/
Beta 0.8 release
https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA

=== NEWS ===
[11-6] Wormwood gets new final chapter
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132293

[11-5] Nirvana interviews Sandy Petersen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahjodwO1XBU

[11-5] GZDoom 4.9.0 released
https://github.com/ZDoom/gzdoom/releases/tag/g4.9.0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=76741

[11-5] Divergence, a 2-map long Heretic wad.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132276-divergenceheretic-2-maps/

[11-3] DF-21.net is hosting a Star Wars: Dark Forces level contest for the month of November with a prize.
https://df-21.net/?post=63

[11-2] DBP53: Plutonian Sunrise, released.
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2998

[11-1] Colorful hell updated to 0.99
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1231269#p1231269

[10-28] Doom 64: Ethereal Breakdown is out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132113

[10-22] Infested episode 2 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=76655

[10-22] Slooter dev cancels development
https://buxomdev.itch.io/slooter/devlog/437072/end-of-development

[10-18] Latest Doom Unity addon: Harmony
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1582413888532156416

[10-17] Perfect Dark is now 100% decompiled and recompiled
https://twitter.com/Graslu00/status/1581744350249521153

[10-14] Corruption Cards updated to 4.2
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=67939

[10-11] First anniversary of REKKR: Sunken Land
https://twitter.com/RevaeRavus/status/1579872132447600641

[10-11] Sorrow updated to 1.1
https://redead-ita.itch.io/sorrow/devlog/438130/11-update

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

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[Anonymous No.9397415]

Trying this again
>>9397384
>>9397397

[Anonymous No.9397454]

[Anonymous No.9397461]

>>9397454

[Anonymous No.9397474]

[Anonymous No.9397482]

>>9397474
>dumb chaingunner
>/vr/ let guy max muh Hexen
>ditch whatever keep mapping

[Anonymous No.9397484]

>>9397474
anyone up for a deathmatch tonight?

[Anonymous No.9397485]

>>9397482
>>ditch whatever keep mapping
The word cloud has spoken, cancel everything else, it's time to make maps.

[Anonymous No.9397489]

>>9397474
>q2 love
Feelin fuzzy

[Anonymous No.9397490]

>>9397484
I put up a server called /vr/troopers deathmatch on Zandronum, IP is 51.161.34.159:10666
Go nuts.

[Anonymous No.9397517]

>>9397408
thanks doc

[Anonymous No.9397521]

>>9397490
It is password-protected, you dumbo.

[Anonymous No.9397524]

>>9397521
Whoops.
It's off now.

[Anonymous No.9397532]

>>9397454
thanks for the hearty kek anon

[Anonymous No.9397556]

Dario Casali is btfoing TNT

[Anonymous No.9397562]

>>9397556
>TNT contributor
>btfo'ing TNT
I did like his TNT maps the most out of the set though

[Anonymous No.9397595]

>>9397562
see his tnt playthrough

[Anonymous No.9397627]

>>9397365
So you're saying Quake multiplayer is shit then..?

A meta naturally forms in multiplayer, it's unavoidable.
Certain weapons turn out to be the best, others not so much (Klobb from GoldenEye).

[Anonymous No.9397635]

>>9397524
>>9397490
you sly cat, just gimme a few minutes before i can jump in now!!

[Anonymous No.9397785]

Now that I've learned more about manipulating frames, I've got transparent ice and opaque arrows (instead of opaque ice and transparent arrows.)

[Anonymous No.9397864]

>>9397490
ggs

[Anonymous No.9397868]

>>9397490
Server killed.

[Anonymous No.9397883]

>>9397474
>dark music

[Anonymous No.9397886]

>>9397864
>>9397868
that was a lot of fun

[Anonymous No.9397887]

>>9397868
thanks for hosting

[Anonymous No.9397890]

Everyday until you like it

[Anonymous No.9397913]

>>9397415
>>9397232
>>9397384
>>9397397
I had to go offline just after posting this, I just copied the lines to a new layer, erased the black, shifted the lines left then reduced transparency (also added an extra line because that part was black). I didn't adhere to Doom palette or anything

[Anonymous No.9397919]

>>9397913
I didn't adhere to a palette here, and I did something similar by sliding the colors down. I'm not sticking to a doom palette either, so it's all good.
You had a good idea though, and the end result looks better for it.

[Anonymous No.9397920]

Steady progress is being made on my Serious Editor 1 tutorial. Lots and lots of photos to be followed by lots and lots of words. And this isn't even halfway done, seriously.

[Anonymous No.9397926]

>>9397920
Good fucking job taking charge anon. We got too many whiners here and not enough people actually doing shit.

[Anonymous No.9397950]

>>9397920
based

[Anonymous No.9397954]

>>9397920
First I'm hearing about all this, how different compared to other level editors is it?

[Anonymous No.9397991]

>>9397408
Can somebody please tell me what fan games there are for the Build engine? There's one that I don't remember the name of, that looked really cool. It's not WG Realms or Ion Maiden. It had something to do with the EDF from Nukem, and it had a youtube trailer that got posted here at some point.

I'm just too retarded to remember what the fuck it was called.

[Anonymous No.9397993]

>>9397954
It is very robust, but also very contrived. You build the world with CSG brushes and basically carve rooms out of a "filled" void. Lighting updates virtually instantly inside the editor and you can test the level at any time with any rendering mode (visible entities, wireframe, realtime, etc). The first hurdle is learning the controls but after that only a few other things might give you trouble now and then. Editing entities is super simple, but understanding what each property does within an entity might range from "obvious" to "what the fuck is this?"
The main downside the editor has is just lack of tutorials and learning resources. There is a decent amount out there and active communities with people well versed in the engine, but starting from scratch can be daunting.
Also never press Undo unless you know what you're doing, trust me.

[Anonymous No.9398001]

>>9397993
>The main downside the editor has is just lack of tutorials
At least it's got a 20MB CHM help file.

[Anonymous No.9398003]

>>9398001
SOUL
the keyboard shortcut list it has is very useful

[Anonymous No.9398006]

IT'S ROCKET TAX
OPEN UP

[Anonymous No.9398012]

>>9398006
>Presses 5
>"Oh I'll give you your fuckin' taxes alright.."
>ker-CHUNK
>"With INTREST!"

[Anonymous No.9398058]

>>9398006
Yeah nah fuck you.

[Anonymous No.9398075]

Serious Sam anon when is the jam?

[Anonymous No.9398113]

>>9397141
I still have no idea how you made Q2 so neat looking

[Anonymous No.9398162]

>>9397485
TFW too stupid for Trenchbroom
Can I just use Oblige and fine-tune whatever it vomits out instead?

[Anonymous No.9398183]

[Anonymous No.9398251]

>>9397409
>Wormwood gets new final chapter
Finished this today. While fantastic, I feel like the last map is a bit weak compared to the other last maps from the previous 3 wormwoods.

[Anonymous No.9398287]

>>9398251
first two wormwoods are god tier and slept on. i didn't play 4 yet but i'm just happy to see ribbiks and danne around. looking forward to it. also i like that they keep refining the color scheme, little piece by little piece. i link the green plasma in the new one.

[Anonymous No.9398334]

>>9397993
>Also never press Undo unless you know what you're doing, trust me.
what does this mean? Does it fuck stuff up like in SLADE or what?

[Anonymous No.9398339]

>>9397627
it is unavoidable, but it is making a game boring since people don't experiment anymore. Good multi games should force you to use something else than your fav weapon and so on. Im not saying games with meta are shit because that would obviously discredit every MP game with a decent size group of players, Im just saying that aspect is one of the worse ones

[Anonymous No.9398340]

post good doom music. here's the stewboy track for shangri-la
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8ZuW77ijmI

[Anonymous No.9398359]

>>9397409
Submission for Unrattled:
"Dork Facility" by Hand-peeled
Midi: "Trilemma" by Jimmy
https://files.catbox.moe/ecjslg.wad

[Anonymous No.9398491]

>>9397409
https://twitter.com/ScottApogee/status/1589815156833669121
https://twitter.com/ScottApogee/status/1589820020829220864?t=XUk4CJjMOa97spz0tnBLTw&s=19

Scott Miller just confirmed that Jeremy Soule, composer for games like Skyrim and fucking Pajama Sam, did music for the 2001 build of DNF, and that he plans to use them in an unannounced game likely coming out next year.

Not gonna lie, seeing Pajama Sam being indirectly related to Duke Nukem Forever, let alone Duke in general, is rocking my world in the most autistic way possible.

[Anonymous No.9398496]

>>9398359
>Dork Facility
Didn't know Kevin went on to become a Doom modder

[Anonymous No.9398540]

>>9398491
Kind of sounds like bullshit to artificially boost hype for new nu-Apogee project, to be honest. Not that you need to do that in case of Jeremy Soule, but Miller nowadays comes off as insecure sperg. So that won't be surprising.

[Anonymous No.9398553]

Made some new pickups for Blaz, and some of the old powerups are getting replaced with less stupid ones.

[Anonymous No.9398572]

>>9397556
It's easier to see how him and Milo were actually pretty frustrated and why Plutonia is notably different. Not even the fact that there was less than a tenth of the authors, and that both of them were on the same page, but that they had an actual direction and clear vision, they wanted to take Doom 2's monsters and go the distance with them, rather than playing it more safe with difficulty and challenge which TNT does.

For what it's worth, he does actually like some of the levels, which is pretty normal, lots of people dislike large parts of TNT but find themselves liking bits and pieces of it. It's better that he's honest, rather than being fake and heaping lots of praise he doesn't believe, and it's not like there haven't been people shitting aggressively on TNT for almost three decades
Being harsh now, him having a very clear idea on what's good and bad level design is also one of the reasons him (and his brother) went on to make some pretty big landmark titles, while only a few of the others who worked on Evilution continued into the industry, working on decidedly less notable titles.
There were other members of Team TNT which were very strong level designers, like Skillsaw and Sverre Kvernmo, but those guys came on well after Evilution.

[Anonymous No.9398576]

>>9398572
>Sverre Kvernmo
>very strong level designer

[Anonymous No.9398585]

>>9398576
Yes. Play the stuff which isn't Master Levels and Eternal Doom.

[Anonymous No.9398598]

>>9397562
Dario and Milo make some of the better contributions to Evilution, but you can tell they were being held back. Plutonia is the kind of thing they really wanted to do, and the opportunity to do it was nothing short of a golden one which they seized on.

>>9398576
Check out Plasma Plant.

[Anonymous No.9398604]

>>9398553
That is so much better, goddamn

[Anonymous No.9398612]

>>9398604
Those uneven pixels in HUD scaling trigger me a lot
Can youmake it so HUD only ever uses integer scaling? I've seen most HUDs do exactly that.
Also I sure hope the lower grey "immersive HUD" elements are toggleable

[Anonymous No.9398614]

>>9398612
Visor HUD is part of the standard status bar, you can switch that off by switching over to the fullscreen HUD.
I actually didn't know about the integer scaling thing? Is that an SBARINFO thing?

[Anonymous No.9398623]

https://github.com/kraflab/dsda-doom/commit/999ea93470f6da72132225132725791e63f180c1
>Indexed Light Mode
>Xaser has implemented a new light mode for opengl that closely replicates the visuals of the software renderer. It uses the software palette system (including the pain palette and gamma) and can replicate previously software-exclusive effects like fake fog (recently seen in wormwood 4 map 5). This is the new default for opengl and combines the accuracy of software with the performance of hardware. Enjoy!
I would expect a stable release before December at this point

[Anonymous No.9398624]

>>9398614
I think so, look at how Final Doomer, or Term's High Noon and Booster mod do this. I think all of them don't do their own scaling, but rely on GZDoom built in HUD scaling option which is integer.

[Anonymous No.9398625]

>>9398553
So what's all the new stuff?

[Anonymous No.9398635]

>>9398334
It only undoes actions regarding brushwork iirc. So if you're messing with entities and press undo it will change everything up to the last time you messed with a brush. Very weird.

[Anonymous No.9398636]

>>9398624
I hate that shit too, mind you. I just accepted it as a harsh reality of Graf-ism. I'll need to talk with Yholl about that then, but if it's something that isn't available in old Zandy code, then we're all shit out of luck.

>>9398625
I'm trashing the weird energy refund thing on the SSG, I'm gonna make it a cleave effect where if you hit dudes with the powered sword, nearby enemies take damage, I'm debating if I want to make the collateral weaker than the main strike, or make it full damage but it just drains extra energy from the player if it procs.

Trashing the rate of fire upgrades on the Blazter, instead if you shoot walls or floors it'll spawn shrapnel for dudes to step on.

The blue charge up wave buster on the Blazter is gone, I'm gonna replace it with an effect where if you shoot an enemy that's stunned, their whack ass crystal prison explodes. Which ends the stun early but AOE shit is cool. That'll do self damage. Everything else is staying the same.

Also Hyper Mode is being pushed to the reload key, and hitting Zoom with the Blazter now uses the grapple chain like it does with the sword.

[Anonymous No.9398642]

>>9398636
Pretty sure it's compatible with Zandy code because Final Doomer is, and it does that too.

[Anonymous No.9398650]

>>9398642
Final Doomer isn't Zandy compatible, and I just realized the ugly scaling might be a result of me playing at 1600x900. Here's a screenshot of a 4:3 resolution. Also I looked into Final Doomer's SBARINFO and I don't see anything different from what I'm doing.

[Anonymous No.9398659]

>>9398650
Thing is, the scale should stay the same no matter what resolution you re playing, the HUD should not scale unless you select an option in the GZDoom.
The resolution should not matter. In fact, I think that scaling to res instead of letting GZDoom scale it for you is the culprit.
I play the game at weird resolutions like 1798x996

[Anonymous No.9398661]

>>9398650
I just noticed the gold frame is still weirdly stretched in this shot. It honestly might be from WHERE I've placed the HUD element. I swear if I have to move it down by a pixel or two to fix that I'm gonna blow a blood vessel.

>>9398659
I'll be damned if I can find that option, it might be something I switched in the console at some point and forgot about. There's a good chance that you won't see this shit when you play it if it's a GZDoom option thing.

[Anonymous No.9398662]

>>9398659
>>9398661
I think I see the problem, I had the scale factor to 1.0, I cranked it up to 2.0 and now I THINK it's normal. Of course now the message font for pickups and save messages is teeny tiny, which pisses me off.
This engine is fucked up.

[Anonymous No.9398665]

>>9398662
Oh, well fuck me I never bothered to look to see there's overrides for message scaling specifically. Well my HUD looks a lot nicer now. I'm going to bed, but at least it's me being stupid as a player and not me being stupid as a developer.

[Anonymous No.9398668]

>>9398636
I would vote for weaker collateral, but I don't know if you're changing his meter build up or drain rate any other way.

I think I also remember you saying you were gonna let him throw the sword by default and have the pickups upgrade it further?

[Anonymous No.9398669]

>>9398662

[Anonymous No.9398674]

>>9398668
I don't know. Now that I'm thinking about it, I kinda like the idea of just having it drain extra energy if it procs. Because you're most likely going to turn to those guys and hit them anyway. If there's only one big target in front of you it's only gonna use a single gem like normal.

>>9398669
Scroll up, doofus. You got a lot of interesting shit to read, and now I'm really off to bed.

[Anonymous No.9398689]

>>9398624
I think I asked one of the GzDoom devs about that stuff once and they said it was an inevitability or something, which I'm not entirely convinced of.
One thing I've learned about autiatic programmer geniuses in general, is that though they can be very talented, they can also be wont to disregard some approach or solution as 'not feasible', when sometimes that isn't exactly true. Sometimes it actually is, but sometimes it's a matter of programmer autism not understanding why anyone would actually really want X or Y (sometimes to bizarre degrees), reasoning that it isn't actually necessary, leading to not pursuing a feature or solution because they don't want to put in the effort to it, or worse gutting out a feature because they don't want to continue maintaining it or don't want to fix an associated problem.
>Why should I do that? It's clearly not necessary, these people don't know what they want.
It's part of the whole struggling to parse outside perspectives thing with heavy autism. It's not all me not having any grasp on programming either, because I sometimes see other programmers call out rationales and explanations as partially or fully incorrect when this kind ot thing happens.
Graf isn't even remotely the worst case of this, by the way, you guys don't know how bad this can get.

I've been wondering if I could try to fix that rough scaling on HUD features by maybe doubling or tripling the size of little icons and stuff (while maintaining the same resolution and depth, so to say, not increasing or decreasing any amount of detail), along with playing around with empty space on the sides of the graphic, all to force it to rescale so that it maybe looks slightly less ugly and distorted.
It's fairly likely to plain not work, or to be a lost cause from ending up squashed in a different way on someone else's screen/resolution anyway, but I could at least try it.

[Anonymous No.9398698]

>lived to see Spirit getting fucked by Karma after all these years shitting on doom and quake sequels due to his autism
>and by fagweather, who is a piece of deranged shit no better than him, but still got backstabbed by him and took all of the mapping circlejerk with him.
Poetic to say at least but still karma for Quake One Forums being buried by quaddicted and celephais.

>>9398491
Holy shit, this is nice.

[Anonymous No.9398703]

>>9398662
>>9398669
Do you plan to ever do dedicated levels for GMOTA or Combined Arms?

[Anonymous No.9398736]

>>9398703
Wait for KEKKR II: Assault on King Romero's Castle

[Anonymous No.9398749]

>>9398113
Just the packs at moddb, yamagi under vulkan renderer and reshade.
Again is something Carmack would do if he had the hands on a Q2 Update for Quake 4 release instead of the Xbox remaster.

[Anonymous No.9398846]

I've been playing Doom on Switch lately
Doom is cool. I never really got into it beyond the first few levels before but I can totally see how you can get sucked in and obsess over every detail of the game. Some of the levels seem lame or mazelike at first but when you learn them they end up sending you down a checklist to try and get everything done as quickly as you can knowing where the stuff is. Good shit
I've been starting at E1M1 on Ultra-Violence Plus and starting over when I die. It's fun. Havent gotten out of E1 yet with that but I will

[Anonymous No.9398878]

>>9397991
A.W.O.L?

[Anonymous No.9398879]

>>9397991
AMC squad?

[Anonymous No.9398929]

>>9398703
Based

[Anonymous No.9398936]

>>9398929
Fuck I meant to quote >>9398736

[Anonymous No.9398945]

>>9398736
If we did an expansion pack for Rekkr as a /vr/ project that would be cool, but that would probably be primarily REKKR gameplay
I meant something with new assets(like that arena textures Kegan shows stuff in) in levels straight for GMOTA

[Anonymous No.9398960]

>>9398183
is he ok?

[Anonymous No.9399062]

I couldn't sleep, I had some wild fucking ideas for GMOTA that I think are giga-brain: I'm gonna remove the sword techniques and just give the elemental effects to the subweapons themselves. That strips out more jump state motherfuckery under the hood, makes the altfire button more consistent, and gives the subweapons a cool little niche beyond just "They do ranged damage."

>>9398703
Also nah, I just wanna make my dumb gameplay mods and move on from this damned engine.

[Anonymous No.9399065]

>>9399062
Godot? FTEQuake? Unity? Unreal 4/5? Honestly dude GZDoom is getting popular for commercial projects and you're already majorly familiar with it. Make some dosh man.

[Anonymous No.9399068]

>>9399065
Godot most likely, and I want to make sidescrollers and overhead action games more than anything else.

[Anonymous No.9399069]

>>9399065
Serious Engine
https://github.com/SeriousAlexej/Serious-Engine

[Anonymous No.9399118]

>>9399068
I looked into Godot a bit ago, but ended up going with unity since it had some features I wanted and I was already somewhat familiar with it.
Godot seems nice though. Especially for 2D

[Anonymous No.9399121]

>>9387002
>>9386987
>>9386953
Would this work for Quake skyboxes?

[Anonymous No.9399145]

>>9399121
The webm was literally Malice running in vkQuake, so yes.

[Anonymous No.9399162]

>>9399145
Fuck yeah. Who said ai was a bad thing

[Anonymous No.9399263]

I forgot this tool exists as well. It's pretty good.
https://xaloez.com/skybox/index.html

[Anonymous No.9399271]

Just a random hypothetical.
Would anyone be interested in a “Doom” radio? In my head I picture a web player of some sort that allows you to listen to various MIDIs ripped from famous WADS.

[Anonymous No.9399281]

>>9399162
>Who said ai was a bad thing
Some of the most insufferable people imaginable if social media is a decent metric.
>>9399263
Neat. Doesn't really beat out Terragen, but it seems pretty convenient if you want quick clouds.

[Anonymous No.9399286]

>>9399281
how do i get this running am brainlet :(

[Anonymous No.9399294]

>>9399286
I followed this tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmY5AiempII
Just make sure you get the newer versions of the stuff he links to. Also I think you can ignore the parts where he says to restart Blender with the current version.

[Anonymous No.9399295]

>>9399294
Thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.9399315]

>>9398665
>>9398662
Kegan, my dude.
The scale factor sets internal resolution, which is then downscales (if above 1) or uscales (if below 1) to the game window res.
Not only does it affects performance, it also smudges all uneven pixels, so in reality it makes the problem worse.

The problem is, you made your HUD to scale with the window resolution, which most simpler HUDs don't do.

Also sorry for leading you astray with mod samples - High Noon Drifte/Acceleroid also scale their HUDs the way yours does.

[Anonymous No.9399327]

>>9399315
Yeah, I kinda give up and just chalk all of this up to graf-isms. I'm not removing the FORCESCALED from my SBARINFO.
Again, I utterly hate this shit but most people who make mods don't go for a sharp aesthetic like I'd prefer to do. I wonder if Treasure Tech's HUD suffers from this trashfire.

[Anonymous No.9399347]

>>9398612
>>9398614
>>9398624
uneven pixels are a result of aspect ratio correction applied to the hud

some of these might help:
a) in sbarinfo, specify "resolution 320,240;" or 640,480 - if omitted, gzdoom uses the default 320x200
b) design your gfx resources targetting the 4:3 ratio - for comparison, stock iwad resources are squashed, compensating for the stretching performed by the crt screen
c) set the hud_aspectscale cvar to false

[Anonymous No.9399350]

>>9399327
>>9398665
>>9398662
Also when I said scaling I meant the one in the hud menu.

> I'm not removing the FORCESCALED from my SBARINFO
Pretty sure that's the culprit right there. IIRC Zandro just autoscales the HUD anyway, since it does not have separate option. Try playing with it around and the GZDoom option.

>>9399347
>uneven pixels are a result of aspect ratio correction applied to the hud
Only vertical ones. This HUD has trouble with horizontal scaling as well, but yeah the vertical 20% stretch does not help.

[Anonymous No.9399351]

>>9399347
Now in the past I've specified resolutions and everything went to shit. Admittedly this was when I first started Doom modding, but I'm pretty certain if I specified a resolution I would need to go back and adjust the coordinates for every single HUD element across three characters.

>>9399350
I'm just going to leave it alone before I give myself an aneurysm over nitpicking semantics. I have enough on my plate and beating my head against this brick wall seems like an incredibly stupid endeavor.

[Anonymous No.9399354]

>>9399347
forgot to suggest looking into the D4T sbarinfo code
that hud is targetting a 1024x768 resolution and iirc is not affected by the hud_aspectscale cvar

[Anonymous No.9399439]

Laura Beyer's Doom

[Anonymous No.9399553]

>>9397474
>doomworld single
>upgrade couple
>demon together completely multiple
>activision looking zombie
>udb ps1 show wow
>connect unlike retards
>creative/artistic deathmatch improvements
>mono sucks
>considering thinking
>help fps different

Best one in a while

[Anonymous No.9399614]

You have one minute to name all the Quake 1 ports/versions

[Anonymous No.9399634]

>>9399614
Quake
Quakeworld
WinQuake
GlQuake
Tenebrae
Darkplaces
Jackie Chan

[Anonymous No.9399672]

>>9398960
the paper dispenser was empty

[Anonymous No.9399680]

I saw this online and now you get to too

[Anonymous No.9399760]

Any good vanilla mapsets for DOOM? i got several texture packs i would like to finally put to use,unless obsidian map generator is my best bet

[Anonymous No.9399779]

>>9399760
DOOM 2 i mean in general

[Anonymous No.9399798]

>>9399680
what the fuck I was just thinking about this screencap a few minutes ago

[Anonymous No.9399805]

>>9399760
like ones that use strictly or mostly vanilla textures? off the top of my head:
Going Down
Hellevator
Hellbound
Kama Sutra
Scythe
NOVA 1

[Anonymous No.9399807]

>>9399805
Strictly vanilla textures yes,sorry if i wasnt clear

[Anonymous No.9399825]

>>9397991
AMC Squad is most likely the thing you were thinking about. Another anon got to you before BUT I will reinforce his suggestion.

[Anonymous No.9399837]

>>9399760
Doom II The Way id Did

[Anonymous No.9399845]

Should i take the GLquake/WinQuake/Quakeworld pill?

[Anonymous No.9399909]

[Anonymous No.9399913]

>>9399909
WON version?

[Anonymous No.9399923]

>>9399913
Steam version.

[Anonymous No.9399928]

Does anyone know the origin of this pk3? My friend said it was from here.
https://archive.org/details/ColumbineDOOM2

[Anonymous No.9399954]

>>9399807
whispers of satan is pretty detailed for a vanilla textures wad from the mid 2000s

[Anonymous No.9399962]

She's based on Momiji, right?

[Anonymous No.9400045]

>>9399845
There's no real reason to other than recording footage of that for some archival purpose. The QS family and FTE are fine.

[Anonymous No.9400082]

>>9400045
>FTE
>fine
I never was able to configure it to feel right (inb4 git gud).
Is there even any reason to use it except for Afterquake or playing DP mods without using DP?

[Anonymous No.9400101]

>>9400082
Co-op with Quakeworld netcode is pretty great, as is just being able to play on Quakeworld servers without switching engines.
In theory you can do GZDoom-style modular modding since the engine can load uncompiled QC files, but of course with the absolute state of the Quake 1 'community', you won't find anything taking advantage of that capability.

[Anonymous No.9400103]

>>9398572
Skillsaw was barely a TeamTNT member. He joined so late, that he wasn't involved in any released projects.

[Anonymous No.9400134]

Anon was Asking for Quake 2 mods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-PPVqEJU9A
Its russian but it has all of the well known TC mods for SP and mission packs.

[Anonymous No.9400135]

>>9400101
>Co-op with Quakeworld netcode is pretty great
Fair enough.
Wouldn't really bother with using it just to play on QW servers though since I would have to change to config too.
As for it's modding capabilities, I'm aware about them, but as you said there is barely anything to show it in practice.

[Anonymous No.9400148]

>>9400134
If it's in a reply to my post from previous thread, thanks, I'll watch it a bit later.
Already see some interesting stuff I didn't know about in chapters. As well as a reminder to try Dawn of Darkness out.
As for language, it doesn't bother me, as I know it.

[Anonymous No.9400150]

>>9397454
What mod is this. This is great.

[Anonymous No.9400153]

>>9400148
DoD works better on yamagi, just the scaling is ass.
Also the dagger anim has morrowind vibes.

[Anonymous No.9400171]

>>9399928
shit like this is cursed

[Anonymous No.9400175]

SNS SRB2Kart stuff: we'll probably be hosting tomorrow to test things, mainly:
- new game modes (DriftNitro, Combi-Ring, Friendmod, Frontrun, Rings and Battle Plus)
- new mod that improves performance/stuttering
- new maps/characters
- possibly new permanent ranking system
- some new chat features and other minor mods

If you want to play, get the mods here:
https://mega.nz/folder/YA1gEaZI#ORB7j-vSJ9IHaGnJGEQm7g
(new additions since last session are in Nov 8 folder)

If you also need the base game:
https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/tag/v1.3

Note: we've switched to an upgraded executable since last month. If you don't have it yet, get it here:
https://mega.nz/folder/YA1gEaZI#ORB7j-vSJ9IHaGnJGEQm7g/folder/pE80jDIT
(either 32 or 64bit is fine; 64 needs the dlls)
or compile it from here:
https://gitlab.com/c3851/srb-2-k-cep/-/tree/srb2k-moe-cepdev
(it also runs on WINE)
You cannot join anymore with vanilla or Moe Mansion, so get CEP ahead of time!

[Anonymous No.9400185]

>>9399350
>>9399351
Alright, well I've got some news. If I use the fullscreenoffsets parameter on the HUD, things look far cleaner.
It's just I'm gonna have to adjust the coordinates for everything for all three heroes.

But I'll fucking do it.

[Anonymous No.9400186]

>>9400185
Jesus fucking Christ dude.

[Anonymous No.9400191]

>>9400186
If I'm not making people recoil in horror from the shit I do in SBARINFO, then I'm doing something wrong.

[Anonymous No.9400194]

>>9400185
Gods bless you and your dedication, Kegan.

[Anonymous No.9400201]

>>9400191
SBARINFO is horror enough on it's own

[Anonymous No.9400202]

>>9400201
I'd still kill for a visual editor.

[Anonymous No.9400217]

full length double barrel shotguns are cooler than sawed off shottys

[Anonymous No.9400253]

>>9400185
I'm feeling your pain, bro. I myself was butting a lot with custom conversation menu recently, trying to get it to work on every resolution.

[Anonymous No.9400259]

>>9400217
Fact. Full-length or at least coachgun-length double barrels are pretty much always great in every game, while sawn-offs are usually meh.

[Anonymous No.9400313]

>>9397474
>killed caco
sorry

[Anonymous No.9400365]

>No Violent Rumble anchor post
Is it over?

[Anonymous No.9400370]

>>9400082
FTE is actually the engine that works with QuakeC the best, thus making it best suited to make an independent endeavor with the Q1 engine.

[Anonymous No.9400379]

Were Eric Harris' Doom 2 maps any good?

[Anonymous No.9400383]

>>9400379
Only this one was decent. Everything else is your typical unremarkable 90s shlock.

[ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs No.9400407]

>>9400365
No, I'm just lazy and forgetful...

VIOLENT RUMBLE 2 ANCHOR POST: LATE AND GAY EDITION

VR Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ

Stick to the loose files in the 'vr' folder for working on the project. You don't need the QuakeC source files unless you want to contribute code. When there is an update, sort files by date modified so that you aren't constantly re-downloading everything.

LAST UPDATE: >>9363335

Reminder to yell at me if something is broken.

[Anonymous No.9400471]

>>9400407
Shouldn't it be vr2 so I don't overwrite my vr folder

[Anonymous No.9400482]

>>9400471
>>9400407
Violent Rumble 2: Clandestine Bowel Movement

[Anonymous No.9400547]

>>9400383
Not that anon but it really is kind of a Hitler Painting sorta situation: if that kid never went off the deep end it's possible he could've instead chosen a life of Doom modding and maybe become good at it. But no, he just had to go wacko mode at his school.

[Anonymous No.9400571]

>>9397991
The AMC Squad
https://www.moddb.com/games/the-amc-tc

[Anonymous No.9400759]

Looking to modernize my DOOM experience. Just loaded this old ZDL preset. What's out that can improve off this?

[Anonymous No.9400790]

>>9400759
Install HD PBR pack and immersive visor HUD

[Anonymous No.9400793]

>>9400790
>>9400759
also one of them yootoober ultra-high-contrast-yet-somehow-washed-out-at-the-same-time reshades

[Anonymous No.9400797]

>>9400759
I guess BDSE is still fine, even if it's rather old? I suppose you could go with Project Brutality or something, if you want to. Also, update your source ports.

[Anonymous No.9400860]

Of the Evil Dead mods that exist I'm surprised none of them took inspiration or anything from Fistful of Boomstick and Regeneration. There's a bunch of guns and stump weapons in those.

[Anonymous No.9400932]

I'm new and dumb, sorry; is there any way to play the extra "5th Episode" from Duke3D's 20thAnn. World Tour from within EDuke32, or is the only option to just get the 20thAnn. release?

[Anonymous No.9400945]

>>9400790
>>9400793
>>9400797
Thank you for the replies. Now I feel like I have a place to start.

[Anonymous No.9400946]

>>9400932
It's possible and that's how people play it nowadays. You just need Stopgap.

[Anonymous No.9400985]

>>9400946
Ah, there's no way to extract the episode and run it by itself or something?
For full disclosure I'm setting this up on my Steam Deck, so I just installed the EDuke32 flatpak and dropped an Atomic Edition duke3d.grp into its directory.
How would this work in comparison?

[Anonymous No.9401084]

>>9400985
https://forums.duke4.net/topic/8966-world-tour-eduke32-compatibility-stopgap/

[Anonymous No.9401107]

>>9401084
So then it would just be its own seperate instance of eduke32, I take it then?

[Anonymous No.9401135]

>>9401107
Just get the newest Eduke and Stopgap.

[Anonymous No.9401220]

>>9400185
Blaz is nearly done, this looks so much nicer dude. I did go a little overboard earlier when shrinking Blaz's visor thing, but I think that's fine. the crisp pixels of the HUD make me happy.
And really it hasn't been that bad so far. I've been using +center when alligning the X coordinates of HUD elements which feels natural to me.

[Anonymous No.9401236]

>>9401135
This doesn't answer my question.

[Anonymous No.9401264]

>>9401220
This pleases my autism very much.
Thank you.

Will we see new GMOTA release this year, or will that be next one?

[Anonymous No.9401265]

>>9401264
I'm hellbent to get the first half of this final update before the year is through, it'll have all of these changes I've made to the three playable heroes, as well as some changes to the monsters and the customizer menu stuff. Samson, some new art assets for everyone, and another surprise will be saved for 2023.

[Anonymous No.9401278]

>>9398359
that's a lot of fucking dorks

[Anonymous No.9401290]

> wolf3d.net get redesigned
> my bookmark get redirected to https://beta.wolf3d.net/engines/LZWolf
> cant' find the LZwolf download anymore

am I blind?

that was the only place where I could find a pre-built windows binary
the official bitbucket project page does not seem to provide them
are there any other mirrors?

[Anonymous No.9401304]

>>9400185
>>9401220
oh wow, it never occured to me that you might have been using the absolute coordinates system which the stock "statusbar normal" sbarinfo drawing routine uses

I only now realize that your hud elements are not placed in the display corners, but your intent is to have them always positioned as if the screen was set to a 4:3 resolution

now you might already be aware of this, but here goes:
to get the same results when using the ForceScaleOffset coordinates system, don't just specify absolute positive/negative x-coordinates - that would end up with a screwed up layout if someone will play your mod using a screen ratio narrower/wider than the one you're using now
you should use the "+center" clause that will tell gzdoom to apply your specified offset starting from the center of the screen

> For example "-16 + center" on an X coordinate would mean 16 pixels left of center.
https://zdoom.org/wiki/StatusBar

[Anonymous No.9401329]

>>9401304
I'm a moron.. you already mentioned using the "+center" clause

silly me, thinking of teaching to the might Keegan the ways of gzdoom modding...

keep up the good work!

[Anonymous No.9401398]

>>9401329
I thought about making a quick cheat sheet for Sbarinfo usage.
are there things that can be explained better?

[ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs No.9401482]

>>9400471
You can name the folder however you like on your own computer. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>9400482
>clandestine
Full force or nothing.

[Anonymous No.9401638]

>>9401290
https://beta.wolf3d.net/guides/167/168

[Anonymous No.9401671]

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/ScoreDoomST

What do you think would be involved in trying to port over a scoring system to an existing source port, preferably Eternity Engine or Crispy Doom? I'm making a Doom arcade cabinet and while this old source port works, I'd prefer something a little more faithful but updated.

[Anonymous No.9401720]

>>9400547
I actually fucking had a dream last night where I went back in time and stopped Columbine by talking to Eric about Doom WADs, what the fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.9401726]

Name a better intro level than E1M1: Hangar

[Anonymous No.9401728]

>>9401726

[Anonymous No.9401729]

>>9401726
I love Hollywood Holocaust

[Anonymous No.9401743]

Reposting one last time before I determine there's no interest: We're replacing the ads in SRB2Kart with /vr/ and /doom/ related things. You can advertise that cool project you're working on, or you can load it up with inside jokes/memes, just make it good/funny. Grab the base files here.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/727328864489046110/1037216866638245978/Adverts.zip
In this zip, these are currently replaced.
>BILSAFE
>JEWELAD3
>JEWELAD4
>TPSIGNE
Everything else is fair game.

[Anonymous No.9401756]

>>9401743
Dunno if revae would appreciate this being in the same server with moonman and stuff like that so you can go ahead and exclude this if he says anything.

[Anonymous No.9401757]

>>9401726
The Docks, Winnowing Hall, Secret Base, Hollywood Holocaust, Cradle to Grave, base01... should I continue?
>>9401728
Wait, that doesn't look right.

[Anonymous No.9401762]

>>9401743
>Full Thrust really rocks!
Hey that's my map! Cool!

[Anonymous No.9401767]

>one map didn't load due to custom functions, but it was the most bizzare one of them all and I didn't like it that much, last map will probably be brutal if I won't get all upgrades by chance

[Anonymous No.9401769]

>>9401398
maybe a reminder on how DrawImage, DrawString and DrawNumber behave differently in terms of coordinates
iirc: the coordinates are referring to:
- the top right hand corner of a string or a number
- the top left hand corner of an image

[Anonymous No.9401770]

>>9401769
Ok added that to the cheat sheet.

[Anonymous No.9401775]

>>9401729
The Duke3D level is pretty good too

[Anonymous No.9401818]

>>9401775
It epitomizes the kind of level design and progression I’d run into with build games over IdSoft stuff. Encounters in build games never felt as strong Doom and Quakeshit, though.

[Anonymous No.9401836]

>>9401818
so you hate it?

[Anonymous No.9401851]

>>9401671
Marshmallow Doom (fork of Crispy) has a scoring system, but I never tested it.

[Anonymous No.9401927]

>>9401767
That's a shame one didn't load properly since Ter Shib is probably my favorite mappack. I nightmare shotgun started all the maps so you'll be fine by shib8

[Anonymous No.9401946]

>>9401767
Didn't got the widowmaker, shit was infuriating because of it - at least now I can go check soething else for now...

[Anonymous No.9402047]

>>9397408
Quake 1 but it's randomized

[Anonymous No.9402086]

>>9401836
No they’re fun and I love them, but I can understand why people prefer other older shooters.

[Anonymous No.9402112]

I keep having a recurring dream where I'm playing Doom 2 Map 1, but if you drop down to the initial area with the zombiemen and turn right, there's an entirely different area that doesn't even make euclidian sense where you have to platform on hexagonal pillars floating in lava while a cyberdemon shoots at you. After you run past him and go through a UAC door, the lava section behind you becomes a normal floor, and you are met with a small shiny blue room and another UAC door, with two parrallel cacodemons flying out of the walls surrounding said door. Kill the cacodemons to open up that door, and you are back in the normal map, but it's scaled to be 2.5x bigger and now repopulated with tons of imps and zombiemen, who would be a pain to try and fight with your maybe depleted pistol and chainsaw, so you rush back to the spawn area mowing through dozens of fodder enemies to try and lure the cyberdemon out to fight for you.

What does it MEAN?

[Anonymous No.9402130]

>>9401851
Wow didn't know that. Never even heard of that source port until now as well. Looks pretty cool. Thanks for sharing anon

[Anonymous No.9402209]

>>9401851
>marshmallow doom
more like marshmallow dumb, lmao

[Anonymous No.9402268]

>>9400175
I put up a test server. We're gonna be testing Kart VS Rating instead of stat tracker this time around, which I've just added to the mega into the Nov 8 folder, so go grab that if you plan to test.

[Anonymous No.9402289]

>>9402268
I'll join later if you're still up and running.

[Anonymous No.9402337]

>>9402268
Forgot to post IP, it's 51.161.34.159 still

[Anonymous No.9402351]

>>9401304
>>9401329
I never considered using the +center thing before until just last night. It makes this way easier. I honestly might go back and give the same treatment to Gaiden's HUD.
Combined_Arms already uses fullscreenoffsets so it's fine, thankfully.

Also I'm a firm believer that you should never stop learning, because I'm usually picking up new shit with every project I make or new update I do. It's one of the reasons why I keep going back and improving my mods.

[Anonymous No.9402359]

>>9400175
>>9402268
>>9402337
Short description for each mode:
DriftNitro: no items. Instead, drift and sliptide to get nitros that you can use anytime like items.
Combi-Ring: work with your linked partner to finish the race as a team.
Friendmod: work with the rest of your team to get the overall best ranking at the end of the race.
Frontrun: no laps. Instead, the first player to stay in the front for a total of 60 seconds wins.
Rings: press the item button when you don't have an item to spend one of your collected rings for a small speed boost at any time.
Battle Plus: battle mode, but with new game types and rules.

If you're downloading the game for the first time, create a "DOWNLOAD" folder inside the main folder and put all the mods files there.

If you've installed CEP64, the vanilla/moe exes will stop working because of the new dlls. If you want to keep using them for any reason, get the old dlls from the official 1.3 installer, then either switch to CEP32 or make a separate install for just 64.

[Anonymous No.9402383]

>>9402268
>>9402337
We're back up, had to fix some shit with rings mode. It doesn't look like a very fun mode anyway desu.

[Anonymous No.9402393]

>>9402047
Already exists and it's awesome. Arcane Dimensions chaos mode.

[Anonymous No.9402405]

Mick Gordon responds to id software statement regarding Doom Eternal's OST two years later.
https://medium.com/@mickgordon/my-full-statement-regarding-doom-eternal-5f98266b27ce#7f12

[Anonymous No.9402463]

>>9402337

[Anonymous No.9402476]

REMINDER: If you win a race in Combi, then your partner becomes your soulmate for life.

[Anonymous No.9402617]

https://mega.nz/file/xmxFTCzK#nN3SHh7d12kC04xHD7bqbK-eADl4WEd6DZa5ZhsGPiM
play my new level anon, tested on crispy and gzdoom

[Anonymous No.9402678]

>mapping for Doom 1
>all these missing textures
>all these missing decorations
>all these missing MONSTERS

[Anonymous No.9402693]

[Anonymous No.9402697]

>>9402678
>oh no how am I gonna make a map without 90 revenants and 30 shotgun ammo boxes

[Anonymous No.9402719]

>>9402678
lostres contains all of the doom 2 textures, which shouldn't be an issue as far as uploading it to idgames as the iwad assets don't match the intended iwad. just resist the temptation to use them anyway
Only having the one tech lamp is pretty wild though

[Anonymous No.9402819]

>>9402268
Server killed.

[Anonymous No.9402850]

>>9402697
This but unironically. I feel naked without my favorite monsters.

[Anonymous No.9402870]

>>9402337
>>9402819

[Anonymous No.9402935]

SiN is a pretty good game.

[Anonymous No.9403009]

well this is fun

[Anonymous No.9403092]

>>9401946
bruh set GL_TextureAnisotropy to 16 to make them textures a few meters away from you much crisper.

[Anonymous No.9403094]

>>9403009
obligatory
what mod is that

[Anonymous No.9403101]

>>9403094
It looks a lot like Project Brutality. I think they're in the process of removing redundant features right now.

[Anonymous No.9403113]

>>9403101
i played the new builds a few weeks ago and it felt really weird to play

[Anonymous No.9403121]

>>9403113
better or worse than it was before?

[Anonymous No.9403125]

>>9403121
i dunno, they removed a bunch of stuff, but also added and improved some. I also had some fan add-ons downloaded for some extra fun but didn't do much. I'd say slightly worse than before

[Anonymous No.9403139]

>>9402697
>oh no how am I gonna make a map without actually good monsters
Don't ever pretend that Doom 1 bestiary wasn't complete dogshit, they only serve as chaff for the actually good monsters from Doom 2.

[Anonymous No.9403160]

>>9403094
PB and glory kills
glory kills kinda takes the danger of dying away, but im more into exploring and seeing the maps, not to say i havent died, but as long as i dont do dumb shit like letting a 'tron pelt my asshole in from behind
>why cant i back up
>whats hitting me
>turn around
>babby spider mean face
>oh
good times

[Anonymous No.9403182]

I had some people mention the new meters I've made are kinda small. So I fixed that.
I'm pretty goddamn pleased with this.

[Anonymous No.9403186]

>>9403182

[Anonymous No.9403192]

>>9403182
*mwah* Gorgeous.

[Anonymous No.9403197]

i like unreal but man it's slow until you get the flak cannon and some of the levels have pretty poor conveyance

also unreal difficulty is bullshit

[Anonymous No.9403263]

>>9398736

[Anonymous No.9403289]

>>9399068
Based.

[Anonymous No.9403324]

how do you transcribe the sounds of the doom monsters, anons?
>generic pain sound is "AUGHH"
>pain elemental pain "Ooooowww!"
>archvile idle "Hoo ha ha hah!"
>archvile death "Ho ho hoy!"
>hellknight death "OW-Wouhhh!"
>baron death "MWOUUGGGRRGGHHHHH"

[Anonymous No.9403334]

>>9402850
Limitation breeds creativity

[Anonymous No.9403350]

>>9399068
>>9399118
Ironically, Godot is also worse optimised than Unty. Same scene with same effects has about 15-20% better performance on Unity, true for 2D as well.

[Anonymous No.9403352]

>>9401927
shib8 is for DrakeMod only - this was running in AD, so the skybox was constantly fucked up on all maps due to their custom fog renderers
>>9403092
Does this affect the looks of AD's custom particle effects?

[Anonymous No.9403362]

>>9403352
No, it does not affect particles/models/actors or other effects, only world geometry textures.

[Anonymous No.9403380]

>>9403350
>worse performance than fucking Unity
(X) Doubt

[Anonymous No.9403381]

>>9403362
If I'll add this parameter to the QsS.exe's shortcut will that apply to every next mod loaded via console "game" at startup?

[Anonymous No.9403387]

The people that made the ocarina of time source port announced a few days back that their (tranny) discord will now be for Source ports for N64 decompilations in general moving forward and not just Zelda.

They announced they have started work on a decompiled N64 game with unveilings and announcements in a month or so to come. Obviously, Perfect Dark just recently was decompiled.

Thoughts? Excited? The "ship" being a source framework for future decompilation ports seems pretty cool if it means faster turnaround and compatibility on more devices and having likely the same features and interface and stuff.

[Anonymous No.9403393]

>>9403380
Look it up, there are a bunch of tests, including ways to optimise stuff. Only thing GODOT comes out better at is making pixel-accurate 2D games easier to do, which in Unity you'd have to use a bunch of workarounds (and it will still perform better)

There are also a few Godot VS Unity test enviroments on github where you can perform all the tests for yourself and edit them however you like.

[Anonymous No.9403395]

>>9403387
Did they decompile Doom 64?

[Anonymous No.9403427]

>>9403393
I'm going to use Godot anyway because Unity is dumb.

[Anonymous No.9403551]

>>9403427
Go to sleep

[Anonymous No.9403567]

>>9402719
>which shouldn't be an issue as far as uploading it to idgames as the iwad assets don't match the intended iwad. just resist the temptation to use them anyway
what? Does this mean we cannot use em?

[Anonymous No.9403568]

>>9403324
HISS

[Anonymous No.9403572]

>>9403387
Call me when we'll get a port of Duke Nukem Zero Hour.
>tfw nu-3D Realms never did anything with Time to Kill source code, even though they had it

[Anonymous No.9403595]

>>9403324
I always wanted to know what the imp sound is.

[Anonymous No.9403649]

>>9403139
Not him, but UDTWiD and No End In Sight were able to create quite challenging situations with Doom 1 beastiary.

[Anonymous No.9403654]

>>9402617
Wow, what a stellar (hehe) map, really impressed me with the scale of it, expecially the rooms like the one with soulsphere (where you descend on a lift and get a preview of it all) and the staircase room with archies and arachnotrons
got 71% secrets despite having the computer map, not really a complaint, maybe im just too stupid or something
Felt spooked when a single revenant teleported to the start of map - because at the time I was going back and forth between cleared rooms looking for secrets so there was like no way I triggered him because I kept going through already explored areas, was he on a timer or what?
My only legit complaints are too much HOMs (like in pic related and door traks of the door to yellow key and a whole lot of other areas), the plasma gun being pickable even before lowering it with switch(makes the switch obsolete and confusing) and the final fight being a little bit underwhelming when you have so much rockets and plasma and invuln - though this is hard to resolve since if you took away the invuln the archviles would smoke you within seconds, and the whole arena is so cramped and hard to balance, maybe throw in even more enemies other than archviles after the initial wave? So that the player has more stuff to do there, you could also lower those stalagmite pillars to the ground to make room.
Overall amazing map, the midi fits the atmosphere, beautiful view of space in the rotten jesus spaceship bridge room, those little ships in the distance are cute. 8/10 for me, even though long maps usually tire me out badly

[Anonymous No.9403660]

>>9403572
That gay. I always liked time to kill. Didn't know they had the source.

[Anonymous No.9403662]

>>9403595
Camel.
Unless you mean the idle sound, which I dunno.

[Anonymous No.9403665]

>>9403654
Also the room where archviles and revenants teleport is a nice gimmick, I think I saw a similar trick in HFFM but here its much better implemented

[Anonymous No.9403671]

>>9403660
They did. I remember Fred wanting to make a remaster or something, back when Gearbox didn't assume the control of all of Duke.
Time to Kill is really special. I know it's a TR clone made by a different company than 3D Realms, but it somehow feels like a Duke game still.

[Anonymous No.9403687]

>>9397409
One thing that I'd like to suggest for the Unrattled project, can we replace the retail sprites with the beta ones?

[Anonymous No.9403816]

>>9403649
"Challenging" is not a synonym of "fun". I can make a room with a ledge around it that has 300 zombiemans on it, or maybe shove you into a broom closet with seven barons, and it would be extremely challenging, but you most likely will not have fun playing it.

[Anonymous No.9403908]

>>9403816
spamming the fuck out of revenants and archviles doesn't even make a map ''fun'' either.

[Anonymous No.9403918]

>>9403197
Are you saying you don’t like having a fly quietly sneak up to your back and sting you for half your health?

[Anonymous No.9403967]

Where do people get the actual .MUS or .MIDI files for their wads

[Anonymous No.9403970]

how to make a map thats a decent challenge if your honestly a shitty player yourself?

[Anonymous No.9403976]

I cannot find a good tutorial on how to actually add new things to your wad using Slade and I feel retarded. I just want to add a new torch object, a texture pack and a song and every tutorial about it either straight up doesn't work or is made by someone more stupid than myself.

[Anonymous No.9403995]

>>9403970
Git gut. Or just play test saves (But don't put bullshit ambushes in). Or make easy maps.

[Anonymous No.9404000]

>>9403976
Those tasks become progressively simpler in order you listed. What format are you going for?

[Anonymous No.9404004]

>>9404000
I figure GZDoom would be the simplest to start, though I worry learning to do these things for GZDoom will mean I just have to learn them all over again to do vanilla compat later.

[Anonymous No.9404010]

>>9404004
If you just want to make a different music play on your level, you can drop it into the wad and name to match the level. Such as D_RUNNIN. This page has a breakdown.

To import a texture pack, you can probably just move all files from the pack to your wad. Standard doom format requires PLAYPAL, COLORMAP (If present), PNAMES, TEXTURE1 and possibly TEXTURE2 as well as everything between FF_START and FF_END and PP_START and PP_END
If it's pk3 instead, I think it's just files in folders.

I'm not really sure what the best way to add new things would be. There's lots of options.

[Anonymous No.9404019]

>>9404010
>Everything between FF_START, FF_END, PP_START and PP_END
Could you explain this? I've watched a few tutorials and they never mention this, but clearly that's what's breaking this

[Anonymous No.9404025]

>>9404019
Ok, so there's two different types of doom textures - textures and flats. gzDoom blurs the distinction because of its modern rendering, but it's there.
Flats are simple lumps of graphical data. They go on floor and ceiling. They are placed between FF_START and FF_END (Sometimes F_START and F_END, but FF is recommended because it defines them as addition and not overwrite, or so I heard).
Wall textures are more complex. They are composed out of one or more wall patches, that are defined, equivalently, by being placed between PP_START and PP_END. They are then added to PNAMES that translates their names into numbers so that then textures can be assembled inside TEXTURE1 (And optionally TEXTURE2) definition.

[Anonymous No.9404027]

>>9403139
Doom 2 bestiary would be unbearable without SSG being conveniently overpowered.
Except for chaingunners, I guess.

[Anonymous No.9404029]

>>9403662
Yeah, the "wabblewabble" sound.

[Anonymous No.9404034]

>Doom 2
>give the player a SSG and place them in a room full of skeletons: shit map
>Serious Sam
>give the player a double barrel and place them in a room full of skeletons: 10/10 encounter design

[Anonymous No.9404036]

>>9403970
Make all the enemies have no attacks then model it after your high school.

[Anonymous No.9404038]

>>9404034
>slav jank is held to lower standards
How is this noteworthy?

[Anonymous No.9404043]

Is it normal for texture packs to completely break the vanilla textures?

[Anonymous No.9404053]

>>9404043
Usually not, but that depends on how it's composed. There can be only one PNAMES and 2 TEXTUREx lists at best, so if they don't include vanilla resources, they will not be available.

[Anonymous No.9404060]

>>9404034
Kleer > Revenants.
But also double barrel isn't the weapon I think of the most when I think of Sam.

[Anonymous No.9404070]

>>9404053
I think it's possible that the texture pack I downloaded might just be fucking broken.
Which sucks because, since i've never done this before, I have no idea how to verify. I guess I'll download a different one and see if the same issue arises.

[Anonymous No.9404079]

>>9404025
So if I download a texture pack that isn't defined as flats/textures, and they're just Graphics, I know I can convert the images to Doom GFX but how does that impact vanilla compatibility?

[Anonymous No.9404091]

>>9404079
Vanilla needs coversion into Doom GFX (And flats into Doom Flat), patches being defined in PNAMES and TEXTURE1.
If you are using SLADE3, arrange all flats between FF_START and FF_END markers (Press Ctrl+N to make new entry and name it this way) and convert them to doom flat, arrange walls between PP_START and PP_END and convert them to Doom GFX, then right-click with all selected and add to TEXTUREx.

Make sure you have base resourse WAD selected in preferences. When it will ask you if you want to import PNAMES and TEXTUREx from base wad, say yes.

[Anonymous No.9404108]

>>9404091
Oh my god that worked I thought I was gonna throw up there.

[Anonymous No.9404113]

>>9404091
Oh great and wise anon, could you explain the music and prop part now lmao
If you have the time or patience, of course
I just wanted a custom torch object and a new song to play.
I'm not even gonna think about custom monsters yet.

[Anonymous No.9404124]

I'm going through last year's Cacowards in order and after playing Unhallowed I'm wondering why it got a golden award when all the previous winners were memorable and quite entertaining experiences and even silver ones like Cydonia were a lot more fun.

[Anonymous No.9404127]

I downloaded a texture pack from Realm667 that has separate PLAYPAL and COLORMAP entries that the textures don't work without but when I import them into my wad they break literally everything else

[Anonymous No.9404139]

>>9404027
>Doom 2 bestiary would be unbearable without SSG being conveniently overpowered.
It would mean more fun plasma rifle drops.

[Anonymous No.9404145]

>>9404127
I'm fucking retarded it's because it was using a Heretic palette and apparently Doom2 format can only do Doom and Hexen palettes and I'm gonna punch myself in the cock until I die

[Anonymous No.9404156]

>>9404145
All 3 palettes are different, but you can convert between different palettes using native SLADE3 tool. Just do the usual graphic conversion and select the right ones to and from.

>>9404113
On the subject of music - all maps have a hardcoded music name paired with it. You can change it but you probably don't need to. If you are making a doom 2 map in MAP01, name your music lump D_RUNNIN. Make sure to put it outside the level.

If you can sacrifice one decoration for a torch, it'll be as easy as replacing sprites - just make your own sprites under the same name and put them between SS_START and SS_END.
However I know nothing about modding gzDoom so I can't help you add new one properly.

[Anonymous No.9404161]

>>9403970
Post it here and wait for people to tear it apart, then adjust based on feedback.

[Anonymous No.9404163]

>>9404139
It can somewhat work, but at this point, I'd rather port Thunderbolt from Quake.

[Anonymous No.9404169]

>>9403970
Make a map that is kinda hard for you in Doom, then convert it to Heretic and add some more Maulotaurs.

[Anonymous No.9404201]

Where can I find a monster's Decorate code?

[Anonymous No.9404205]

>>9404163
It wouldn’t just work somewhat, it would work out better because the gun dishes out more damage than the super shotgun with better stunlocking and without a “reload”. I’m not sure what standard people are holding the super shotgun under to come to the conclusion that it’s “overpowered”.
>>9404034
>>9404060
It’s interesting how few enemies can’t outrun Sam, which is the polar opposite of Doom. Feels like a secret to Sam’s success.

[Anonymous No.9404206]

Any other changes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOZuNNI9XZ0

[Anonymous No.9404215]

>>9404091
>>9404025
>>9404010
>>9404156
Real sensei hours.
God bless OK???

[Anonymous No.9404218]

>>9403918
it's that, and projectile weapons being completely useless against the skaarj. on hard they will at least forget to dodge the flak cannon once in a while.

[Anonymous No.9404236]

>>9404034
It might be because in the Sam scenario the gameplay is faster thus providing a different kind of tension. Kleers are downed in one well time double barrel blast, whereas revenants take two. And I think anyone who's played Serious Sam knows the inherent satisfaction of weaving in and out of a horde of kleers with no or little damage. It's horde management vs straight up slaughter.

And on a more personal level I think Croteam just stuck gold with that first game's enemy roster.

[Anonymous No.9404237]

Ad Mortem used MBF21 to get custom monsters and textures and shit to be DSDA/PRBoom compatible right?

[Anonymous No.9404251]

>>9397408
>TFW no HDuke or HBlood

[Anonymous No.9404258]

>>9404251
>I *thrust* hate *thrust* mimes

[Anonymous No.9404272]

>>9404237
Custom monsters. MBF21 has nothing do with textures.

[Anonymous No.9404275]

>>9404124
I found Unhallowed quite fun.

[Anonymous No.9404290]

>>9404218
I had a good time baiting their dodges with the stinger’s primary, then punishing the dodges with the stinger’s altfire. Not fun for everyone, and my fun with it didn’t last during my most recent playthrough attwmpt. I used to play this game all the time when I was younger too, but I only beat it twice.

[Anonymous No.9404316]

>Resurrection is the best way to play Doom 32x
>still uses jaguar mapset
>Delta and Ultimate Doom hack has more levels and accurate textures
Explain yourselves

[Anonymous No.9404317]

>>9404236
yeah it has a great enemy roster

[Anonymous No.9404319]

>>9403387
of course it's exciting, i'm so fucking ready to play that online with others already

[Anonymous No.9404323]

if serious sam is so good then why it was btfo by examined life of gaming?

[Anonymous No.9404332]

>>9404323
Who?
Okay, okay, I'll google it.
>I love Half-Life 2
Opinion disregarded.

[Anonymous No.9404348]

>>9404323
it's over, samfies...

[Anonymous No.9404365]

>>9404275
I didn't think any of the fights were particularly entertaining and most of the time the combat boiled down to spamming rockets down a hallway from as far as I could. I think the issue is that you never get trapped inside a tight spot because for most of the hard fights you can backtrack somewhere else, for example near the start of the level there's a 4 archvile encounter with columns who keep going up and down and you are supposed to use these to break the LoS of the archviles, so I died a couple of times there trying to figure out the proper rhythm to get cover properly, but then I realized the door never closed and it was only blocked by some shitty imps at first (two barons which could actually block my way spawned later, I don't know why the author didn't make them spawn first) so an interesting encounter became trivial. Similar stuff happens for 90% of the map's hard encounters, the only spot where I legitimately had to git gud was a room full of revenants where I assume I was expected to spam BFG shots but since I had no plasma I got raped by them until I figured out a strategy to beat it with the rocket launcher.

There was also the issue of monsters teleporting late all the time, I don't know if that's a GZDoom problem though. Overall I'd say the map wasn't tested properly or maybe the author thought it would have been too hard if he kept trapping the player, but the whole map was composed of isolated encounters so not doing that is kind of dumb.

[Anonymous No.9404372]

I'll stop pestering about shit for today after this but
I was looking into MBF21 and I can't seem to figure out how to use it? I thought maybe it was a DSDA patch or something for Doombuilder but I can't find anything to download.
I want to make stuff like Ad Mortem, it's the fuckin benchmark for me right now, but I can't seem to piece together how it was done and all of the information I find about it is explained in a way that already assumes you know about it.
Would anyone be so kind as to give me a newbies explanation of what's going on with it?

[Anonymous No.9404395]

>>9404323
Damn this dude sounds mad as fuck. Not gonna finish it. It probably makes the same points as other Sam detractors anyway
>It's not really classic FPS like Doom it's more open
>I can't use the double barrel to kill everything
>Unfair spawns
Etc. Sam is a hardcore fps, not everyone is into that.

[Anonymous No.9404406]

>>9404372
What I'm getting from the wiki is that it lets you do some of the changes (G)ZDoom already allows you to do with Decorate/ZScript but while having Boom/MBF compatibility because you do them in a fork of DeHackEd (which means most modern source ports will support them too unlike Decorate/ZScript which is exclusive to (G)ZDoom)

https://github.com/kraflab/mbf21/blob/master/docs/spec.md

This GitHub link explains how to use it both in Ultimate Doom Builder for map features and DeHackEd for the gameplay changes.

[Anonymous No.9404413]

>>9404395
Hey, Sambro, what do you think about Doom slaughterfags and Painkiller?

[Anonymous No.9404419]

>>9404372
If you mean new objects, they are created in DEHACKED lump. DSDA-Doom will read it (And now gzDoom should as well) and assimilate. So will UDB.
Resource pack was bundled with DECOHACK code that is a code that is easier to read and can be fed into doomtools to create DEHACKED code.
https://mtrop.github.io/DoomTools/decohack.html

[Anonymous No.9404423]

Jesus christ jannie

[Anonymous No.9404450]

>>9403687
At least replacing the Chaingun would look nice and retro.

[Anonymous No.9404452]

>>9403139
There's good monsters in Doom 1, there's just a lot of missing roles which Doom 2 fills out well.

[Anonymous No.9404532]

>>9403687
This, but only the Chaingun and the Pistol sprite because I also like the Assault rifle sprite quite a lot too. I'd leave the rest as it is, not a big fan of the Bayonet and the old BFG sprite.

[Anonymous No.9404535]

So, what are some good ZDoom works that use the advanced features (be it scripts, hubs, inventory, whatever, preferably a bit more than just 3D floors and slopes), but still retain classic-ish gameplay?
I already played Daedalus, Eternal Doom 4, KDiZD and Cheogsh.

[Anonymous No.9404541]

>>9404535
Bloodflow and maybe Azazel's Second Descent? I saw some videos but didn't try myself.

[Anonymous No.9404542]

I appreciate you guys being so supportive, I promise I'll make a map that isn't total dogshit.

[Anonymous No.9404562]

>>9404091
>>9404025
>>9404010
>>9404156
damn, this is useful info, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.9404571]

what do we think of Quake E1M1?

[Anonymous No.9404578]

>>9404571
It's alright.

[Anonymous No.9404582]

>>9404571
It's okay, but also it's the worst first map in an Id game since Hovertank 3-D.

[Anonymous No.9404587]

>>9404582
why

[Anonymous No.9404591]

>>9404571
similar to e1m1 in doom, it shows what the engine is capable of that the previous engine couldn't do, and so it fulfils its functions well

[Anonymous No.9404601]

So sandy admitted that doom 2 sucks. I don't like Devs shitting on games they worked on but...

[Anonymous No.9404602]

>>9404601
filtered by his own game lol

[Anonymous No.9404605]

>>9404602
He's right, Quake is better

[Anonymous No.9404608]

>>9404601
>Phoned in your map design
>Say the game sucked 20 years later

[Anonymous No.9404614]

>>9404602
>filtered
He beat every level from a pistol start before everyone had 20 years of experience using WASD controls, and invented slaughter with Suburbs

[Anonymous No.9404616]

>>9404605
No, Romero is right

[Anonymous No.9404617]

>>9404601
Why not? At least he's honest about his own maps were absolute dogshit.

[Anonymous No.9404626]

>>9404587
Not as good as Hangar and Entryway.
Wolf 3D and SoD got proper levels for their first ones and not just a feature showcase.
Catacomb 3-D is Catacomb 3-D.
And honestly, I just think that Slipgate Complex doesn't have an interesting layout, especially with the secret placements. It goes for a similar thing as Hangar, but it just fails to connect everything it in a good way, especially compared to the later version that added a switch that leads to a courtyard from the starting room. I mean, even Quake 2 got it better.

[Anonymous No.9404652]

Doom 2 has the Arch-vile, cope

[Anonymous No.9404669]

>>9404652
>Iron Lich but unfun
Yet another reason why Heretic is better.

[Anonymous No.9404674]

>>9404601
>I don't like Devs shitting on games they worked on but...
Honestly, I always admire moments like that.
>>9404669
Heretic is better. Hexen is the best.

[Anonymous No.9404692]

>>9404674
>Heretic is better. Hexen is the best.
I kneel.
No, but seriously, I do love Hexen the most out of Doom engine games, but it's hardly for it's combat.

[Anonymous No.9404706]

>>9404372
MBF21 is just fancy Dehacked. If you know your way around Dehacked, you can also do MBF21.
If you don't, absolutely, positively WANT AND MUST have your stuff run with
>muh demo compatibility
just do Decorate

[Anonymous No.9404715]

>>9403970
Make the map as hard as you can bear it, done.
Fuck the "hurr needs more Revenants" crowds.
If you make an easy map, you make an easy map, period.
Nobody should listen to the Doom equivalent of death grip can-only-nut-to-brazilian-schoolgirl-vomit-porn coomers.

[Anonymous No.9404716]

name one good fps sequel.
you can't.

[Anonymous No.9404723]

>>9404716
Turok 2

[Anonymous No.9404732]

>>9397409
This is old (Sept. 27th) but I think newsworthy. Someone put together a bunch of texture wads for Quake mapping from games before 2000
viewtopic.php?id=1280

[Anonymous No.9404737]

>>9404732
Fuck me
https://www.quaddicted.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1280

[Anonymous No.9404738]

>>9404716
I really can't name just one, so I'll name more.
Quake II.
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Hexen 2.
Unreal Tournament 200(3/4)
Marathon Durandal
Alien Breed 3D 2
Descent 2
Star Trek Elite Force 2
Star Wars Dark Forces 2 Jedi Knight
Star Wars Jedi Knight 2 Jedi Outcast
And many more.
That said, a good fps sequel isn't necessarily a better game than its predecessor. It's still good though.

[Anonymous No.9404741]

>romero shitposters are back
Fuck this gay thread
In any case, Doom 3 is more faithful to classic Doom Hell than 2016 or Eternal
I wish there it was a map pack using this tileset.


>>9404737
Noice

>>9404738
Heretic 2 was ahead of its time with some gimmicks.
Shame no one ever reverse engineered the source code

[Anonymous No.9404743]

>>9404738
Reminder that QII is a completely better experience when its timescale is set to 1.1

[Anonymous No.9404746]

>>9404741
>romero shitposters are back
who

[Anonymous No.9404750]

>>9404706
>MBF21 is just fancy Dehacked
You don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about. MBF21 is a specification that has extensions to the MBF mapping format, it's not just limited to extended dehacked, although that is part of it. Even if you don't want to wrestle with dehacked tools, you can just write it in decohack, where you can write something similar to decorate code and it will be converted to a compatible dehacked file so you don't have to needlessly limit your audience by using straight decorate.

[Anonymous No.9404751]

>>9404741
Give me the Doom 3 hell textures and I'll make a map with them for Violent Rumble II

[Anonymous No.9404756]

>>9404751
Hell just give me a wad with all of D3's textures.

[Anonymous No.9404762]

Christen Klie is a hack

[Anonymous No.9404772]

>>9404743
>gamespeed preferences
>weapon position choice
>numerous character options
This and Unreal are amazing with this. When I played vanilla Q2 it felt fine at 1.2 speed, but normal speed through the 64 mod has ended up being my favorite.

[Anonymous No.9404773]

>>9404741
>Heretic 2 was ahead of its time with some gimmicks.
It's not FPS, so I didn't list it. It's certainly good though.
That said, icecoldduke did work on reverse engineering it. Not sure what's the current state of it, but like most of his projects it's either unfinished or forgotten.
https://github.com/jmarshall23/Heretic2/tree/Engine-DLL

[Anonymous No.9404784]

>>9404751
a long time ago i posted here some tilesets for Quake 4 that could be used for Q2 off the guy who worked on Overwatch textures, sadly .wal limits are shit.

As for Doom 3, there is a map pack at quaddicted that uses doom 3 hell textures.
I forgot the name but the enemy placing was a pain in the dick.

[Anonymous No.9404790]

>>9404716
Redneck Rampage Rides Again

[Anonymous No.9404793]

>>9404741
classic doom still has an aesthetic no other game in the series carried over and it's insane
the most important aspect of the series and i can still tell which aspects are not present outside of the classic games
it's no wonder nudoom lore got its head up its ass in how they wrote the whole thing

[Anonymous No.9404805]

>>9404626
>especially compared to the later version that added a switch that leads to a courtyard from the starting room.
What version?

[Anonymous No.9404810]

>>9404805
the only one that matters, Ultimate

[Anonymous No.9404815]

>>9404793
Doom 3 still has Classic Hell written all over it
i still regret not buying the ultimate doom collection CD with Doom 3 demo included in it

[Anonymous No.9404819]

>>9404716
the TimeSplitters sequels

[Anonymous No.9404820]

>Oh, hello, Alyx! Well, almost all right. Lamarr has gotten out of her crate again. If I didn't know better, I'd suspect Barney of trapping and ...

[Anonymous No.9404821]

>>9404772
it's a shame that Q2 doesn't have proper centered weapons unlike Unreal, though.

[Anonymous No.9404824]

>>9404815
which one?

[Anonymous No.9404826]

>>9404810
The only version of the first Doom that matters is Shareware, but yes, Ultimate slightly improved Hangar.

[Anonymous No.9404827]

>>9404824
The big box one

[Anonymous No.9404830]

>>9404820
kek

[Anonymous No.9404838]

>>9404821
Where there's a will there's cl_gun_x/y/z

[Anonymous No.9404841]

>>9404827
but the Doom Collector Edition didn't have doom 3

[Anonymous No.9404845]

>>9404601
Did he "admit it sucks" or are you referring that by-now kinda old news tweet where he said it's a "cash grab" they released for money while they were working on Quake?

Also didn't he clarify later that he didn't mean to insult the game by calling it a cash-grab?

Besides which, who cares? Back in the day DOOM 2 was more DOOM, it had cool new monsters and those monsters gave the mapping scene a big boost beyond the initial value of having 32 more maps (using said monsters) to play. Cash grab or not, DOOM 2 is a big part of the reason people still make maps for DOOM (and specifically for DOOM2).

[Anonymous No.9404850]

>>9404841
It had anon, A later release added Doom 3's demo.

[Anonymous No.9404856]

>>9404850
The wiki failed me again

[Anonymous No.9404860]

>>9404737
>>9404732
Gave it a stab, and i saw that the Rott one doesn't seem to have animated tiles actually animate, at least from what according it seems to be from both wally and the texture name.

[Anonymous No.9404863]

does anybody know how to get Distant Screams working in Quake 3 Team Arena? as soon as you try to load the map it crashes the game. i've tried com_zonemegs, com_hunkmegs, changing resolution, reinstalling... nothing works.

[Anonymous No.9404870]

>>9403654
wow thanks anon much appreciated, it's the biggest map I've ever made so it's definitely got some polish issues that I missed, it was everything i could do to barely keep track of texture alignments. I usually prefer short maps too so for a big map i really tried to emphasize each large fight having a novel element to keep it interesting rather than focusing on hardcore combat puzzles.
I had enemies teleport in to different areas as you progress through the map, and some wander a little bit or end up taking their sweet time, I decided to leave it like that because having my own map surprise me felt really good, and it never stopped me from getting 100% kills, so that's how the Revenant surprised you, enemies also spawn into rooms you haven't cleared yet to keep the difficulty escalating, there won't be an archie in the staircase room if you beeline towards it for example. thanks for playing anon

[Anonymous No.9404879]

>>9404838
>>9404821
It acts really weird, anytime you’re not actively shooting with it the model gets grossly off track. It’s not as based as scr_ofsx/y/z that you can get going for Q1 these days.
Q2’s other saving grace lately is something that only I care about and that’s the TPP mod and third person camera support through KnightmareQ2.

[Anonymous No.9404884]

>>9404879
>that’s the TPP mod
What's that?

[Anonymous No.9404887]

>>9404860
Let the OP know tester anon.

[Anonymous No.9404894]

>>9404756
>>9404751
>>9404784
I forget that quaddicted has a whole page of texture wads.
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/wads/doom3_tex.zip
Doing a hell map for VRII wish me luck.

[Anonymous No.9404895]

>>9404884
Very early third person mod for the vanilla campaign.
>captcha PKSTPS

[Anonymous No.9404897]

>>9404895
the movement looks so silly.

[Anonymous No.9404913]

>>9404201
It would usually be in a mod's Actors folder. Though if it's an older mod, they'll all be named DECORATE and you have to just look through them.

[Anonymous No.9404917]

>>9404897
KMQ2 can center the camera on the character so it’s not as “silly”. TPP also doesn’t work with the expansions.

[Anonymous No.9404971]

>>9404535
Alfonzone is largely stock gameplay but playing around a lot with stuff like slopes, room over room, scripting, underwater, truecolor, etc. It's like 12 episodes in total, but they're really small, and each one has a different theme to it, for a grand total of about 50 levels or so.

Because it doesn't replace any weapons, monsters, or items, (and barely add any things like that), it's fairly friendly towards a wide variety of different gameplay mods, if you wanted to try some out. The level design is pretty decent/good as is though, and it has a lot of novelty.
Because of how short the episodes are, you can easily do one of them in one or two sessions of Dooming, and the theme and style is different in next episode, where you start fresh, so it's never a drag.

I enjoyed it a lot, felt kind of like a Doom multi-themepark, in a manner of speaking, and a good example of actually putting GzDoom's features to use.

[Anonymous No.9404986]

>>9404971
Good post. I use Alfonzone as one of my testing grounds for gameplay mods just because of the variety on offer.

[Anonymous No.9404994]

>>9404741
>In any case, Doom 3 is more faithful to classic Doom Hell than 2016 or Eternal
2016 wasn't as bad as I remembered it initially, but it definitely needed to be more weird like 3 was.

[Anonymous No.9405007]

Are there specific mods I should be using with Colourful Hell? Multiple times I got instantly one-shot by enemies. It's like default Doom Health and Armor isn't enough.

[Anonymous No.9405026]

>>9405007
Oh, brother. I spent so many hours trying to balance CH with other mods in a way that felt challenging and organic - balanced. I settled on Project Brutality if I remember right.

[Anonymous No.9405039]

>>9405007
Trailblazer is cool because you get to build weapons and tobacco bonuses more often

[Anonymous No.9405050]

I always liked Quake singleplayer but I recently got into Quakeworld. It's so good. Literally the most skill based game I've ever played. I suck though.

Playing it now though. Feels like everything was dumbed down after to make it appeal to the average joe. I can see why new players don't usually stick around

[Anonymous No.9405053]

>>9404706
I want decino to want to play my map so it has to be PRBoom compatible

[Anonymous No.9405054]

>>9404815
Mind sharing reshade preset?

[Anonymous No.9405073]

>>9404971
This looks somewhat interesting, thank you. I don't really care about gameplay mod friendliness, but at least it shows that it retains the core gameplay, I guess.

[Anonymous No.9405081]

>>9405050
You mean duels or what? I recommend you learning the basics of map control and stuff in other games, before diving in QW.

[Anonymous No.9405083]

>>9405050
i feel like all QW ports suck

[Anonymous No.9405089]

>>9405081

Duels are punishing yes. But the game in general is tough. The movement mechanics, map knowledge, speed of everything. You really gotta understand everything to do decent

[Anonymous No.9405095]

>>9405083

Install nquake first. Then drop the latest ezquake exe in the folder

[Anonymous No.9405097]

>Jumping required
Yep, I'm thinking based.

[Anonymous No.9405112]

>>9405089
>The movement mechanics, map knowledge, speed of everything. You really gotta understand everything to do decent
That's Quake-based Arena FPS in general. I doubt you would have an easier time in Painkiller, for example. Or even something casualized like Quake Champions or Open Fortress.

[Anonymous No.9405125]

>>9405112

I don't want an easier time. I want to learn how to play real games lol

[Anonymous No.9405147]

>>9405054
Guest's shader pack at libretro + HDR

[Anonymous No.9405161]

>>9405147
>Guest's shader pack
With default settings? It has tons of them, just like original shader.

[Anonymous No.9405164]

>>9405053
Did decino ever play a map from someone on /vr/?
I do vaguely recall him complimenting HFFM at some point

[Anonymous No.9405179]

>>9405053
decino has played GZDoom mapsets before, I remember him jumping around in a map requiring jumps, and at least one map he played that was only compatible with gzdoom because the map author screwed up and gave bad tags to the entire map

[Anonymous No.9405183]

[Anonymous No.9405190]

>>9405183
>China.wad

[Anonymous No.9405194]

>>9405190
More like Korea.
Chinese might eat dogs, but it's not their specialty.

[Anonymous No.9405206]

>>9405190
Since Duke is Build Engine it should be probably ".grp".
But I do get the joke.
Always appreciating sovlful easter eggs / gags in games like this.

[Anonymous No.9405207]

Sucks that Hellshots Golf is definitely never getting it's hellshots update, or all of those maps, but it's probably for the best that Term's going his own way after what happened to him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAbYBYdH6S4

[Anonymous No.9405212]

>>9405207
It's understandable. I expected this was to be the case for awhile but I respect him ripping the band-aid off and making a statement about all this.
Really above all else I'm just grateful he's still creating.

[Anonymous No.9405221]

>>9405161
nope stagger2 and mask 10 with smoothening on low
also the shader pack comes with smart bumpmapping

[Anonymous No.9405224]

>>9405212
>Really above all else I'm just grateful he's still creating.
Yeah it's nice to see him doing things, and that RPG he did for that game jam got 13th place which is nuts when you consider it was all him and not like some of the games that were by entire companies.

[Anonymous No.9405228]

>>9405206
Ashes is somewhere between 80 to 95 percent references and easter eggs by volume and it's fantastic.

[Anonymous No.9405230]

>>9403324
HaeoaeH

[Anonymous No.9405246]

>>9405228
Some of it's pretty obscure shit too, like references to 2000AD that aren't Judge Dredd are going to fly the fuck over a lot of people's heads.

[Anonymous No.9405276]

>>9404027
>>9403908
>Doom 2 adds well-designed monsters with interesting attack patterns and a strong but balanced weapon that suits the Doom gameplay perfectly
>OH NO HOW DARE THE MAPPERS TO ACTUALLY USE THEM IN THEIR MAPS

[Anonymous No.9405294]

>>9405276
Well-designed monsters and shitty designed maps don't go well together

[Anonymous No.9405301]

>>9405294
Yeah, that's why Ad Mortem will never be taken seriously.

[Anonymous No.9405315]

>>9405301
People don't like Ad Mortem?
I liked it a lot. The first two maps are really good and the skeletons are preemo, I would use those skeletons in everything if I made maps.

[Anonymous No.9405316]

>>9404139
>It would mean more fun plasma rifle drops.
lol, said the mapper
lmao

[Anonymous No.9405323]

>>9405276
Dishing out more damage than rocket launcher
when you use it correctly for a cost of 2 shells isn't balanced. Nerf it to Q2 level at least.

[Anonymous No.9405325]

I fucked up my HUD settings somehow, but I'm not sure how. Using GZDoom with Doomrunner. Here's what the vanilla Doom 2 HUD looks like now, and in some mods the custom HUDs are either broken or missing entirely (like in La Tailor Girl). Messed around with every setting I can think of, but can't seem to un-fuck it. Any pointers?

[Anonymous No.9405331]

>>9405325
press the - key

[Anonymous No.9405345]

>>9405301
Any /vr/ wad*

[Anonymous No.9405349]

>>9405194
I knew a guy from China as a kid, and he said that it was mainly a thing with old people who live on the countryside.

[Anonymous No.9405351]

>>9405323
>Dishing out more damage than rocket launcher
Dude, what are you talking about? RL has at least thrice as much DPS, and SSG only deals its full damage at point-blank range.

[Anonymous No.9405374]

>>9405301
or HFFM because absolutely nobody played it. lmao

[Anonymous No.9405406]

Is TNT 2: Devilution worth playing?

[Anonymous No.9405407]

>>9403816
Well I mean, Doom 64 lacks some of the D2 enemies and it's still a fun game to play

[Anonymous No.9405449]

i can't play Duke 3D because the DNF 2001 Hollywood Holocaust remake spoiled it.

[Anonymous No.9405453]

>>9405349
A friend of my dad's caught his Asian neighbors trying to lure his dog into a van.
I think they were Korean.

[Anonymous No.9405478]

>>9405406
yes

[Anonymous No.9405509]

>>9403324
FUCK YOUR MOM

[Anonymous No.9405538]

>>9405374
I've seen people play it on Twitch streams and it being brought up on Discord servers, it got around a bit.

[Anonymous No.9405547]

>>9405538
Bunch of Youtubers played it too, this dude seems pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJJrePjHuc0

Still, chasing opinion outside of /vr/ is one of the ways you end up going tits up DBP style.

[Anonymous No.9405551]

>>9405547
This dude is from /vr/ so this isn't really an example of spreading outside of here.
That idea was doomed from the start anyway desu.

[Anonymous No.9405559]

>>9405547
True, the best part for me was making it and playing it, had a fantastic time. If some other people also enjoyed it, that's just a bonus.

[Anonymous No.9405573]

>>9405551
The idea was doomed? I thought it went well.

[Anonymous No.9405574]

>>9405573
The idea of having it spread outside of here I mean, but I'm sure most of you knew that from the start. Hopefully

[Anonymous No.9405576]

>>9405574
There were versions for being more streaming/YouTube friendly, but I think that's about as much accommodation as is necessary.

[Anonymous No.9405631]

>>9405331
Thanks, didn't know about that key

[Anonymous No.9405667]

>>9398879
>>9399825
>>9400571
Thank you anons, this is exactly what I was looking for.

[Anonymous No.9405712]

>>9405207
>still won't name and shame
He's just letting them get away with it by doing this.

[Anonymous No.9405721]

>>9405112
>even something casualized like Quake Champions
>250+ hours in and still shit at every character especially the three I haven't even played
>can't even comprehend LG range
At least I've learnt Slash is best. What are some good retro FPSs with that sort of fast slide mechanic?

[Anonymous No.9405729]

>>9405712
He probably wants to just put it all behind him.

[Anonymous No.9405734]

>>9405721
Sadly there's nothing else really like it, Slash being stuck in that game is agonizing. Anyone saying Quake 4 hasn't played both games.

[Anonymous No.9405737]

>>9405559
This, making it, testing it, refining it, getting feedback from other people in the thread, that's where the fun in that stuff is for me.

>>9405712
Dude's too nice for his own good, which in a way is how it got so bad for him,

I can't blame him for not wanting to revisit it all again though, doesn't make a difference that he's a dude, that kind of constant sexual harassment with no escape leaves something with you for a long ass time.

[Anonymous No.9405746]

>>9405734
>Highway Acceleroid Booster has all the movement options on the planet
>except proper sliding, only having the dodge
Enough to make a man turn into a Revenant.

[Anonymous No.9405747]

>>9405729
Yeah, and so do the people who harassed him, because that means they can do it again and again until someone finally calls them out. It's fucking irresponsible, practically unethical, to not publicly name and shame sex pests. They rely on people not wanting to reveal them to survive. Not naming them is basically being complicit in their next actions.

[Anonymous No.9405773]

>>9405746
High Noon Drifter has a slide.

[Anonymous No.9405872]

>>9405406
Absolutely

[Anonymous No.9405913]

>>9405207
>sexual harassment
>to a male
lol
lmao even

[Anonymous No.9405926]

HL1DM server is up again this thursday night! Added over 150 custom maps, and a rockthevote amx mod x plugin. Using Steam HL1, password is rage

connect 162.248.93.194:27015 in the console

https://mega.nz/folder/wU5gFDaQ#OXJNtWtHxJG1ph6e6WxiNQ
^valve_downloads folder of all the maps so one needn't download all the maps individually upon connecting and changing maps. Simply extract to your common\half-life directory. Going for an hour or so.

[Anonymous No.9405930]

>>9405926
hey i was looking for an arena fps game tonight, gonna download the pack

[Anonymous No.9405931]

>>9405930
Come on down. Tell anyone you know that owns HL1.

[Anonymous No.9405953]

>>9405147
By shader pack you mean the crt-guest-dr-venom port? Or the whole thing?

[Anonymous No.9405954]

>>9405926
2/32

[Anonymous No.9405963]

>>9405538
I sent the wad to one of my friends in a discord VA stream because he also likes to play doom stuff, he only passed map01 and barely played 02 but the first reaction was very unpleasant, I asked if he wanted to play more but just replied ''nah, i'm done with this shit'' then we just move on with DbD stuff.

[Anonymous No.9405965]

>>9405963
Sounds like your friend wasn't hard or fast enough.

[Anonymous No.9405971]

>>9405926
you're missing the actual bsp files which take a long time to download

[Anonymous No.9405975]

>>9405965
Or fabulous enough or faggot enough.

[Anonymous No.9405974]

>>9405971
Are they not in the valve_downloads zip? What the shit.

[Anonymous No.9405983]

>>9405926
3/32

[Anonymous No.9406001]

>>9405926
I fucked up embarrassingly. The bsps didn't upload. 4/32, but uploading the .bsps albeit very slowly to the mega link.

[Anonymous No.9406015]

>>9404750
I was explicitly talking about the non-mapping side. On the mapping side it's just fancy Boom.
Also, if you want to use Decohack, you still have to know what you can do with Decorate that MBF21 can actually use.
Dehacked is obsolete and MBF21 is just an extension to that obsoleteness.
The only people who defend it are those with hateboners for anything GZD/UDMF.
Hell, if they made something like a MBF31 specification that can do everthing decorate and udmf can you people would cream yourselves over it, solely on account of it not being le ebul chicken man.
I just wonder what the go-to cope would then be, as "limitation breeds creativity :^)" wouldn't work as well anymore.

[Anonymous No.9406058]

>>9405926
3/32

[Anonymous No.9406063]

>>9405323
>Nerf it to Q2 level at least.
The SSG in Q2 does 120dmg if all pellets connect
The RL in Q2 does 100+rndm1~20dmg on a direct hit
I dunno shit about Doom, but that was certainly a wrong analogy on your end

[Anonymous No.9406080]

>>9405547
>>9405551
thanks for shilling my videos. always appreciated.

anyway I said this a while back but chasing popularity will kill the unique vibe that shit like HFFM had going for it. if people have a problem with it, fuck em who cares. and anyway I think more people enjoy it than are willing to admit. Even Decino knows what HFFM is. Still looking forward to a HFFM 2 map with a Faggot Bruce midi.

[Anonymous No.9406086]

>>9406080
100 and 300 minutes of /vr/ videos when?

[Anonymous No.9406096]

>>9404887
Just did, hopefully he will take a look at it.

[Anonymous No.9406103]

>>9405926
5/32

[Anonymous No.9406109]

>>9406086
gonna be a little while. got 4 other wads up first and ive been busy as hell. but it'll happen.

[Anonymous No.9406112]

>>9406109
Nice. Looking forward to the other wads as well!

[Anonymous No.9406115]

>>9406080
based. hffm (and every other community project, map, and asset this board puts out for doom, quake, serious sam, srb2 etc) is made for this board at the end of the day.

[Anonymous No.9406123]

I have just completed Honey, no idea what seems to be the problem with it, besides this bit at least. . .

[Anonymous No.9406129]

>>9405926
Closed, thanks to those who joined. I'll see about announcing the game earlier to give people a chance to download the maps. I'll try to find some more fun amx stuff too and fix the rtv not switching after the votemap.

[Anonymous No.9406136]

>>9406123
Your pic makes me think someone needs to draw female Baron presenting her butthole and saying "Insert 5 rockets to continue".

[Anonymous No.9406161]

>>9406136
CP, you know what to do

[Anonymous No.9406164]

>>9406161
Man you really gotta stop abbreviating his name like that.

[Anonymous No.9406169]

>>9406161
>forgot my image AGAIN, not taht it was relevent anyways

[Anonymous No.9406172]

>>9406164
I have no idea how to shorten it in another form than Cryptic Passage
>this really makes my noggin joggin...

[Anonymous No.9406174]

>>9406172
>>9406169
Okay fuck it, I'm outta here before my almonds activate

[Anonymous No.9406187]

>>9406169
>>9406172
>>9406174
lol wut map

[Anonymous No.9406193]

>>9406187
Honey by CZG

[Anonymous No.9406195]

>>9405323
Bruh.
SSG DPS is ~145
Rocket DPS is 354

SSG does 190-215 damage, in rare cases hitting for 170-175, due to how Doom RNG works.

Rocket does 128 radius (usually 110-120 due to monster size) + 20-160, usually hitting for 180-240 damage

SSG has good burst damage but less than half the DPS against tough meatwads like Mancubi/Hellknights/Barons

[Anonymous No.9406207]

>>9406164

[Anonymous No.9406217]

>>9406207
oy vey!

[Anonymous No.9406230]

>>9406207

[Anonymous No.9406235]

>>9406207
kek

[Anonymous No.9406245]

>>9397408
>4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
>https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA
this has stopped working, so has the backup address.

[Anonymous No.9406289]

>>9405478
>>9405872
Shit I'll give it a go. I'm a bit shit at finding secrets though, and there is no doomwiki page for it yet, so are there any pre-existing playthroughs that show where the secrets are?

[Anonymous No.9406320]

>>9405953
the mask advanced pack he himself made.
just ask there at his thread, he will give you the link for his github page.

[Anonymous No.9406326]

>>9406320
DOSFAG possibly deactivated his Account.
In any case, the pack was mediocre since he added only rips and games with no fixes at all, like MK2 fucked up installer not changing the soundfont, and PoP being Broken

[Anonymous No.9406332]

>>9405276
Why you didn't come up with a Doom 2 project then? Be the change and stop complaining like a giant faggot

[Anonymous No.9406336]

>>9406320
https://github.com/guestrr/ReshadeShaders
https://github.com/guestrr/WinUAE-Shaders
It's these, right?

[Anonymous No.9406337]

>>9406336
is the first one
the second is what he ported off his WinUAE stuff

[Anonymous No.9406338]

>>9406337
Ah, got it. Do I use stuff in first link together with DevilSingh's crt-guest-dr-venom Reshade port? Just want to make sure I understood your setup correctly.

[Anonymous No.9406340]

>>9406338
nope, guest's own shaders are enough

[Anonymous No.9406343]

>>9406340
Awesome, thanks a lot. Also, aside from Reshade are you using any mods for dhewm 3 port? It just looks like you're using a redux-like mod too

[Anonymous No.9406348]

>>9406343
i decided to throw redux, hdpr and the shader pack at gamebanana into one mix
even without it it looks nice

[Anonymous No.9406356]

>>9406348
hdpr comes from basic ReShade pack, right or is it some other pack? Also, what gamebanana pack?

[Anonymous No.9406357]

>>9404826
I once used shareware Doom to test an emulator and I thought I was being gaslit for a moment because I could have SWORN there was a switch on that pillar and it was mysteriously gone.

[Anonymous No.9406360]

>>9406356
nope https://www.moddb.com/mods/d3hdp-doom-3-essential-hd-pack

[Anonymous No.9406362]

>>9405551
I can't believe HFFM was a commercial failure and we lost billions of dollars investing in it.

[Anonymous No.9406365]

>>9406362
Maybe the real success was the friends we made along the way.

[Anonymous No.9406372]

>>9406365
Hard Fast Friendly Men

[Anonymous No.9406378]

>>9406372
Nice name

[Anonymous No.9406379]

>>9405721
QCDE
>>9405734
I agree, Quake 4 doesn't feel quite as fake.
Like seriously, if you love sliding, you owe it to yourself to play Q4 on Prodigy.

[Anonymous No.9406394]

>>9406332
What the fuck are you even talking about, you retard?

[Anonymous No.9406404]

Thanks to some advice from Yholl I sorted out some math bullshit to make the HUD look at how much energy you have and tell you exactly how many power strikes you have.
Also the amount of strikes you can have has been lowered from 8 to 5. But on the flipside it only takes 4 hits to get one power attack

[Anonymous No.9406418]

>>9406394
>What the fuck are you even talking about, you retard?
You just comment not knowing the context about it? are you really this dumbass? We're talking about the Doom 1 project and some obnoxious retard is bitching about it because it doesn't have the D2 monsters

[Anonymous No.9406423]

>>9406404
I also added some fancy effects for getting armor with the icon on the left there, as well as icing the bar over when you get hit with defense reducing ice attacks.
I also just noticed the 2 touches the side of the frame, which pisses me off.

[Anonymous No.9406434]

>>9406404
I love the feedback on the third strike. It looks so good, dude.

[Anonymous No.9406442]

>>9406434
Amazing what a little scaling in TEXTURES can do for an attack.

[Anonymous No.9406449]

>>9406404
>Also the amount of strikes you can have has been lowered from 8 to 5. But on the flipside it only takes 4 hits to get one power attack
It's a nice way to encourage using them rather than stacking them up.

[Anonymous No.9406469]

>All these sourceports/forks that adds pistol start faggotry, enemy counting, episode list screen for Doom 2, etc and none of them gives the option to remove the difficulty selection screen.

[Anonymous No.9406514]

>>9406348
What gamebanana shader pack were you using for your screenshots?

[Anonymous No.9406518]

>>9406514
none until yesterday, which is the parallax pack.
but i think i will delete and keep sikkmod ones

[Anonymous No.9406520]

Time to spam some screens from the Quake 2 25th anniversary collaborative UNIT. First up a map by Guggenheim.

[Anonymous No.9406523]

>>9406520
That was 1 of 4, here is 2 of 4. A map by EmeraldTiger.

[Anonymous No.9406528]

>>9406523
3 out of 4 coming up! A map by the Giftmacher (not Otto).

[Anonymous No.9406530]

>>9406528
And last, 4 out of 4, here is a map I have made myself.

[Anonymous No.9406538]

>>9404716
Unironically Doom 2

[Anonymous No.9406567]

>>9406520
>>9406523
>>9406528
>>9406530
Can't wait for the release.

[Anonymous No.9406636]

>>9406520
>>9406523
>>9406528
>>9406530
Hell yes, whoa

[Anonymous No.9406640]

>>9406404
>Satisfying melee combat
Oh really now

[Anonymous No.9406747]

>>9406080
Thanks, bro.

[Anonymous No.9406763]

>>9406015
>Hell, if they made something like a MBF31 specification that can do everthing decorate and udmf can you people would cream yourselves over it
If it done most of decorate stuff and udmf, was demo compatible, played like vanilla doom in the simple aspects like height of monsters and general combat and wasn't a broken terribly optimized mess that is GZD? Hell yeah I would cream myself if someone made it - that's why I like the concept of Eternity engine and plan to get into it someday
You seem to be mistaken, it was never supposed to be about "limitation breeding creativity", both boom and MBF21 are supposed to be a nice middle ground between complete vanilla and bloated UDMF engines - that way you have authentic comfy doom core gameplay that you can add more extensions to
Also stop being such a kneejerk faggot - chicken man is not so bad and is not hated here, its just that GZDoom is simply not Doom, its like those american margarine brands "I cant believe its not butter!" - I have nothing against graf himself and he proved to be pretty based on few occasions(endoom support), only his engine is crap. Just look at the bossbrain ordeal - that thing was broken atleast since zandronum was forked off (which is pretty fucking long ago) and of all the fucking people in the world it was /vr/ (who according to you completely despise poor graf) who discovered the bug and reported it

[Anonymous No.9406814]

>>9406763
>the bossbrain ordeal
That was so fucking funny
>why does this map work on everything except gzdoom?
>FUCK romero's head is too big

[Anonymous No.9406829]

>decided to "git gudder" and doom and disabled freelook
>did a couple of WADs
>tested some new ones yesterday without disabling freelook
>felt awkward as fuck
man, it's so weird, previously freelook felt normal and natural, now it's uncomfortable.

[Anonymous No.9406832]

>>9406814
>Romero's head is too big for the space it's occupying
>default behavior is to fucking self-destruct

[Anonymous No.9406847]

>he still doesn't know
https://tcrf.net/Doom_(PC,_1993)/Revisional_Differences

[Anonymous No.9406852]

>>9405453
Must've been a really tasty looking dog.

[Anonymous No.9406857]

Play the game!

[Anonymous No.9406867]

any games or wads where i can play as a necromancer or a lich or something like that?
(excluding hexen II)

[Anonymous No.9406886]

>>9405406
Yes. If you enjoyed Revilution, you will enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.9406907]

>>9406015
I like gzdoom as port, but I'd never map for gzdoom map for a simple reason. Few gzdoom-specific maps and wads usually break on every new update. When I make something, I don't want update it every month just to get it to work. First boom maps from 1998 still work with all source ports with boom support, Lullaby (2021) doesn't work with newest gzdoom.

[Anonymous No.9406924]

>>9406469
Why tho?

[Anonymous No.9406929]

>>9406907
I want to map for boom but I can't figure out mbf21 and if i can't use a few specific custom monsters I don't wanna do it
Someone should make a solid tutorial vid or pdf

[Anonymous No.9406937]

>finally got some use from that one old aborted mod by Tronyn

[Anonymous No.9406957]

>>9406015
Oh no, I would love at least a simplified Decorate style language for coding rather than the retarded mess that is extending the tangled bullshit that is DeHacked.
I know sourceport devs would prefer it too, because DeHacked is an annoying bitch to add and maintain, especially when extended, and people would rather only have to keep regular DeHacked around for legacy purposes.

I would also love to have a couple of Doom 64 features added to an MBF21 style mapping format, such as overbright sectors, rapid strobing lights, maybe even colored sectors, as well as dart trap emitters. I'm otherwise perfectly good with using VooDoo Dolls for building scripts though, that shit is fun, and keeping it all demo compatible would be very nice.

[Anonymous No.9406983]

>>9406957
>colored sectors
That is something that is already supported by both Boom and MBF. I guess what you're asking for is an easier way of making colored sectors.

[Anonymous No.9407004]

>>9406924
>Why tho?
Because I think the ''implementing all skill levels rule'' bullshit in every single project is retarded. why even bothering implementing another skill when most players usually play on UV w/ save states or Nightmare. I think a feature for umapinfo, mbf21 or whatever would be nice to edit and remove skills levels.

[Anonymous No.9407007]

>>9405007
forget about CH and use Champions

[Anonymous No.9407014]

>>9406983
No, that's colormaps, which are different, they only work when you're inside them, and there's apparently some issues with them and hardware rendering.
I mean like when Doom 64 tints a sector and you don't need to be in it.

[Anonymous No.9407029]

>>9407004
>why even bothering implementing another skill when most players usually play on UV w/ save states or Nightmare
Because not everyone does and it’s fun seeing custom names and graphics for each skill setting.

[Anonymous No.9407041]

Holy mother of pretentious. It's a decent map THOUGH

[Anonymous No.9407047]

>>9407029
I think only doing HMP and UV is fine, anything else is just excessive.

[Anonymous No.9407050]

>look like this
>decide to put your face in videos for literally no reason anyways
why?

[Anonymous No.9407056]

>>9407047
I appreciate the effort, especially in instances like Ancient Aliens’ starting map: The two easiest difficulties have you dealing with a mancubus instead of a cyberdemon.

[Anonymous No.9407071]

>Platforming maps
>Puzzle maps
>Key/Switch hunting maps
Its mostly the first what annoys me the most,puzzle maps can eventually be brute forced

[Anonymous No.9407081]

>>9407071
>1/420th of the Puzzle has been solved on the Seven Portals

[Anonymous No.9407082]

>>9407071
but doom's platforming with the lack of jumping and crouching makes you actually think and plan carefully and is fun.

[Anonymous No.9407083]

[Anonymous No.9407093]

>>9407082
Also: no fall damage, although the author can be a dick and have you land on an unescapable hurtfloor.

[Anonymous No.9407101]

>>9407093
>although the author can be a dick and have you land on an unescapable hurtfloor.
Thats my experience so far on every custom map where the focus is platforming,falling just means load your file again

[Anonymous No.9407102]

>>9407041
what sort of progs does the BMJ utilize, Copper?

[Anonymous No.9407104]

Any pwads that just slightly tweak the vanilla sprites of enemies and weapons and stuff? I wanna use something that makes FreeDOOM look more like DOOM but without just being a pwad of the original iwads textures copied straight over

[Anonymous No.9407129]

>Mod has fancy synthfire
>Left click is right weapon and right click is left weapon

I get why they do it, but it kills me inside every time.

[Anonymous No.9407134]

[Anonymous No.9407148]

>>9407029
but it's not fun for the mapper, implementing a butchered version of their map for no one is a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.9407153]

>>9403092
>unknown command
what sourceport is this for?

[Anonymous No.9407158]

>>9407071
Would take any of them over slaughtershit. There isn't enough 3D platforming and puzzles in vanilla-esque maps (i.e. not TCs and full blown mods).

[Anonymous No.9407160]

>>9407148
Unchecking a fraction of monsters takes me 5 minutes.

[Anonymous No.9407175]

>>9407148
>but it's not fun for the mapper
Some don’t. Some like to spend an extra minute or two making their maps appeal to babies.

[Anonymous No.9407179]

because of the way i've built my map (start in tower of building overlooking large open area, then go into the building itself) i need a long straight corridor
how do i make it interesting

[Anonymous No.9407181]

[Anonymous No.9407182]

>>9407148
That's a stupid generalization.
I have fun making difficulty-specific changes to my maps. Usually in the form of a joke (like unavoidable Blur Spheres on UV only) or progression changes (like placing keys earlier in HNTR), not to mention balancing changes like enemy downgrades and item upgrades that fit a specific challenge or arena.
What's your next stupid line of reasoning?

[Anonymous No.9407186]

>>9407160
That's just lazyness, not always takes just 5 minutes, you have to change monsters, make sure if the gameplay is fun, playtest and checking out if some shit doesn't get stuck or there's something missing, etc.

hell, no wonder some /vr/ maps usually gets buggy in their final states.

>>9407175
>Some like to spend an extra minute or two making their maps appeal to babies.
I don't.

>>9407182
(You)

[Anonymous No.9407192]

>>9407179
Repeated arches, or inlets in walls with lights in it. Alternating between variants of the texture (Metal + metal with light, or brick + brick with lamp)

[Anonymous No.9407202]

>>9407192
A sample of what I did once to you forget that you are in a flat rectangular room from sensory overload.

[Anonymous No.9407204]

pov you are tactical doom

[Anonymous No.9407206]

>>9407186
>I don't.
Then don’t. Those who enjoy doing it will.

[Anonymous No.9407214]

i know what i must do, i shall play swan fox

[Anonymous No.9407235]

>>9407206
if the faggo running the mapping project wants those difficulties so badly he can implement them himself

[Anonymous No.9407241]

[Anonymous No.9407250]

THICC

[Anonymous No.9407267]

>>9407250
More like MILF demon.

[Anonymous No.9407271]

>>9407204
how's he gonna tactic himself outta this one?

[Anonymous No.9407276]

>>9407271
once the semen meter fills up

[Anonymous No.9407279]

>>9407250
Hot take,this boss was a billion times better than icon of sin,she just needs to summon monsters as well and lower her instant rape levels of damage

[Anonymous No.9407307]

we should play ut99 turbo

[Anonymous No.9407314]

>>9407235
I wouldn’t join a map project whose rules I didn’t want to follow.

[Anonymous No.9407319]

It's up bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSHMTvSIeAU

[Anonymous No.9407359]

>>9406937
>hand-grenades in Quake
Neat'oh

[Anonymous No.9407364]

>>9407206
>Those who enjoy doing it will.
but some people don't

[Anonymous No.9407390]

>>9407214
WHOOPS

[Anonymous No.9407410]

>>9407364
>but some people don't
>”Then don’t.”
It’s not a problem. Even then, if you make a mapset and keep things completely consistent across difficulties, newbies can still get things like the reduced damage through sk_baby.

[Anonymous No.9407428]

>>9407235
Or they can just reject your map. If you're too lazy to implement difficulty settings then it probably wasn't worth including anyway.

[Anonymous No.9407430]

Is there a tutorial, either youtube or pdf, on how to put custom actors like monsters/props in boom compatible maps
I've only ever done GZDoom shit

[Anonymous No.9407434]

>>9407430
In Boom compatible you'd need to swap frames around using dehacked, sacrificing decorations. Whacked or Decohack are useful for it.
MBF21 finally lets you add new stuff.

[Anonymous No.9407438]

>>9407434
is there any documentation/tutorials on using MBF21? I can't even seem to find a download for it.

[Anonymous No.9407441]

>>9407438
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MBF21
Ultimate Doom Builder lists it as its own distinct format from Boom/MBF. It's off by default, so you have to press F6 in the editor and manually click its check box so you can select it as a format.

[Anonymous No.9407442]

>>9407438
Specs for all the new stuff:
https://github.com/kraflab/mbf21/blob/master/docs/spec.md

All you need is the newest UDB to make maps (Just select the right format) and newest DSDA-Doom to play.

Specs for decohack on how to code new monsters: https://mtrop.github.io/DoomTools/decohack.html
DoomTools to compile it can be downloaded from the same site.

[Anonymous No.9407445]

>>9407442
>>9407441
Oh shit, badass, thanks bros

[Anonymous No.9407451]

>>9403687
If you or anyone else can compile some assets, then I'll merge them with the project.

[Anonymous No.9407464]

>>9406245
>>9406326
some user managed to get it nuked with a reported copyright claim, i have it all backed up but i'm on vacation right now, will re-upload it all later

[Anonymous No.9407473]

>>9407451
Sven?

[Anonymous No.9407483]

>>9407442
>>9407441
>>9407434
I see how these tools can be used to replace existing actors in boom but I'm still not sure how UDB's MBF21 allows me to add NEW things. Do I just add the new shit in Slade like normal and DSDA just "gets it" or what?

[Anonymous No.9407486]

>>9407483
Yeah, you have to add new stuff in SLADE. I would suggest taking a look at Ad Mortem's DECOHACK to see how they were implemented.

[Anonymous No.9407487]

>>9407486
Thanks I will!

[Anonymous No.9407491]

>>9407483
There are fixed IDs MTF_EXTRA01 through 99 and fixed name of sprites SP01 through 98 (Should be 99, but 99 seems to be crashing the game)

[Anonymous No.9407503]

>>9407464
>Some user
it reeks of /v/ tourist
in any case, i think its time for a /vr/ win98_3dfx pack for dosbox, at least one that runs classic battlezone without the screen issues

[Anonymous No.9407513]

>>9407486
Maybe I'm missing something but I opened Ad Mortem with WhackED and I don't see any of the additional monster actors in there. I see where they replaced actors, but not where they added any.

[Anonymous No.9407517]

>>9407513
You need to have mbf21 format.

[Anonymous No.9407526]

>>9407517
I guess I'm not understanding. When I got to WhackEd4 and I choose an engine it doesn't give me the option for MBF21. I don't think my version would be out of date, I just downloaded it today. Sorry for being retarded.

[Anonymous No.9407553]

>>9406640
What, you've never seen GMOTA before?

[Anonymous No.9407564]

>>9407235
Make your own project, then, you humongous faggot.
If you don't like it, stay away.
Nothing worse than faggots bitching and moaning for absolutely no reason.
You are as bad as sjw faggots whining about how everything should be more inclusive and shit and then not buying them.
You dumb asshole.

[Anonymous No.9407574]

>>9407526
WhackEd4 does not support MBF21. Only MBF (complevel 11, not 21).
I recommend downloading DoomTools. If you've never compiled a program before, you'll need to learn how to do that in DoomTools to turn the DECOHACK code into a .WAD containing all the lumps you need for your own .WADs.

[Anonymous No.9407576]

>>9406867
There's Deathstrider, the mod Accensus made out of all his old Hideous Destructor addons.

[Anonymous No.9407584]

>>9407526
Show us what exactly you're doing. You can't even choose an engine in WhackEd. Are you sure you're not talking about SLADE?
Especially since WhackEd can only open deh and bex.

[Anonymous No.9407586]

>>9407574
whew, alright. thanks anon, I guess I've got a lot to figure out. I wish there was better documentation.

[Anonymous No.9407589]

>>9406867
>>9407576
Forgot pic.

[Anonymous No.9407591]

>>9407584
I was looking at WhackEd when I was supposed to be using doomtools/slade, that's my bad. I'm extremely green when it comes to doing anything other than putting sectors together and shitting monsters into them in doombuilder.

[Anonymous No.9407592]

>>9407186
I just make sure to uncheck some monsters as I design encounters. Usually on lower difficulty levels I'll also change some spectres to regular pinkies or downgrade barons/revenants to hell knights.
This takes nearly no effort and will only screw you over if you don't pay attention and accidentally make an entire segment of your map hard-only.

[Anonymous No.9407615]

It's harder than I thought especially because I'm fuckin inept at actual coding. WIZSIT is the Heretic Wizard's sound, dunno what it wants.

[Anonymous No.9407628]

>>9407615
If it's Decohack meant to produce MBF21, you need to be very strict with names.
The sprite prefixes must be SPxx (Where xx is the number from 01 to 98) and sound should be DSFRExxx (Also number)
But you don't include DS when calling the sound.

[Anonymous No.9407634]

>>9407628
Thanks. Where do you guys learn this shit? I'm really digging trying to find a PDF or something. I hate asking every time some new problem arises, but I'm starting to get the feeling that this stuff is just if you know it you know it, and if you don't you have to ask or hope someone made a YouTube video.

[Anonymous No.9407643]

>>9407634
Doomwiki for pointers et al
Specs for decohack and MBF21 (And MBF, but I lost the link)
Discord when things get really hard.

Once I got the basics down, it was all going well all the way up until I tried to make ceiling enemy.

[Anonymous No.9407653]

>>9407483
Pretty much, yeah. You write up your stuff in DecoHack, which uses a Decorate-ish code language (so that a human being can actually understand it), and then the program 'compiles' it into a DeHacked lump for you. MBF21 is an updated and bugfixed version of the Boom format, which understands an extended kind of DeHacked where you don't have to cut existing assets to add something new (along with various new useful pointers), so with that DeHacked lump, the graphics, and whatever sounds, it'll just run in an MBF21 compatible port.

You still only have the weapons that are in their slots, that's apparently a more complex affair, but you can transform those things in all kinds of different manners.

[Anonymous No.9407657]

>>9407643
That's the way it seems, that the process itself isn't exactly hard but getting there is like searching for buried treasure sometimes.
Like I didn't even think that the sprites prefixes would need to be different, I dunno how I would've come to that conclusion on my own lmao

[Anonymous No.9407660]

>>9407657
Meanwhile I had no idea there's "auto thing". Seems very convenient.

[Anonymous No.9407664]

>>9407660
The thing I was watching said that MBF21 could do "auto thing" but just said "look at wikipedia" whenever anything else popped up

[Anonymous No.9407671]

Friday Night Firefight's cancelled for today. I suggest playing Everyday DM instead.

[Anonymous No.9407674]

>>9407279
There are people that think IoS is a good boss?

[Anonymous No.9407676]

FIRE 'EM UP

[Anonymous No.9407678]

>>9407674
It's an OK boss, but lift ride is annoying. An obstacle course plus group of monsters supported by spawner is usually reasonably fun.

[Anonymous No.9407684]

>>9407676
I played strife recently, why is the combat so shit? None of the weapons feel good to use and the enemies are poorly balanced.

[Anonymous No.9407686]

Are there any bossfights in original iwads that don't suck
I feel like Black Plague D'Sparil is ok, there aren't really any ways to cheese him, but Heresiarch and Korax can be cheesed and Icon of Sin is Icon of Sin

[Anonymous No.9407689]

>>9407359
It's essentially a gimped GL tho, the RL replacement is much better as sets stuff on fire
Also the Vore missiles are now basicly the Fuzzy from Yoshi Island in adittion to homing onto you as usual

[Anonymous No.9407728]

Spent all night trying to figure out how to put Heretic baddies in Doom thinking I was hot shit just to find out that it's literally already been done and the wad is fucking called Heretic in Doom I'm gonna cut my cock off

[Anonymous No.9407730]

>>9407686
Why, yes, I'm a Cleric's Flechette enjoyer.

[Anonymous No.9407734]

>>9407730
WOOO
WOOO
WOOO
WOOO

[Anonymous No.9407740]

>>9407728
How old is Aeons of Death again?

[Anonymous No.9407743]

>>9407740
It needed to be boom compatible

[Anonymous No.9407747]

>>9405712
>>9405747
>Not naming them is basically being complicit in their next actions.
Shut up lol.
Do you think naming the sex pests automatically gets them some kind of a revenge or gets them b& / v& ?
Nothing would happen to the harassers because they have their tranny groomer clique asspatting them while Term would get an extra target painted on him.
Leaving and doing his thing somewhere else where the groomer isn't active is probably the best choice he can do.

[Anonymous No.9407763]

[Anonymous No.9407767]

got in one little fight and mom got scared and she said you're moving with your auntie and uncle in chex quest

[Anonymous No.9407768]

Alright. I was able to use Heretic in Doom to put Heretic monsters in my wad. But
Because God hates me
There's a new problem
None of them will attack the player
I'm so fucking close

[Anonymous No.9407784]

>>9407763
Low effort as fuck tourist kun.

[Anonymous No.9407792]

[Anonymous No.9407794]

I fixed this gif up a little since I last posted it.

[Anonymous No.9407802]

>>9407794

[Anonymous No.9407803]

>>9407768
Fun fact
If you make a single sector map to test a thing
Monsters will not fight you
Someone call Decino and ask him why that do

[Anonymous No.9407805]

>>9407803

[Anonymous No.9407815]

>>9407805
Oh fuck woops I didn't mean to reply with this. That's my bad.

[Anonymous No.9407823]

[Anonymous No.9407826]

>>9407823
Just posting memes now, huh?

[Anonymous No.9407830]

>>9407826
Just some bullshit I really like, maybe some older stuff too

[Anonymous No.9407835]

>>9407830
I'm posting bullshit too now

[Anonymous No.9407839]

[Anonymous No.9407841]

>>9407839
>boo-womp

[Anonymous No.9407840]

>>9407784
Not made by me. Just a random DOOM related image someone posted in this thread some time ago.
>tourist
I've been posting in these threads consistently for a year at least.

[Anonymous No.9407843]

Doesn't work without 4chan sounds but oh well

[Anonymous No.9407846]

[Anonymous No.9407850]

>>9407794
Datass.

[Anonymous No.9407921]

[Anonymous No.9407923]

this is the cacos from before

[Anonymous No.9407924]

this is the cacos now

[Anonymous No.9407925]

[Anonymous No.9407928]

this is the current cacos

[Anonymous No.9407938]

so I have a wad with custom monsters, but I cannot figure out how to give those custom monsters a new attack. I have a .bex WhackEd4 patch for the attack, and I've properly patched the wad in Slade, but when I go into WhackEd4 the extra monsters don't appear in my extra things slots. They're just empty. Does anyone have any pointers?

[Anonymous No.9408159]

>>9407276
it's a bold strategy, but without enough fingerless gloves I'm not sure he can pull it off

[Anonymous No.9408179]

>Good morning, UAC!
>I've got a feeling something
>awful's going to happen to me!

This is really stupid, I'm sorry.

[Anonymous No.9408183]

>>9408179
Save it for next year's musical

[Anonymous No.9408186]

>>9408179
is there any seth mcfarlene wad?

[Anonymous No.9408195]

>>9407241
reminds me, the wad about squidward Going Postal isn't available in the usual places, unless I'm not looking hard enough? It looks really polished

[Anonymous No.9408215]

>>9408186
Man l, i wish there were idtech 1 or idtech 2 WADs, PK3s, or other type of mode that was either based directly on Family Guy, Venture Bros., South Park, or Terminator!

[Anonymous No.9408296]

New thread coming right up!
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>>9408287
>>9408287