Retrobit Big6

[Anonymous No.9389093]

Would this design feel comfortable or is it just a meme?
> https://retro-bit.com/big6
Never owned sega, thinking about getting regular 6button or this. On one hand the bulkier one would probably fit grown up hands better but sega probably made regular 6 smaller for a reason. Saturn also continued with smaller design so im guessing the ergonomics were just better.
What version would you pick /vr/? How do ergonomics compare between original and 6 button controllers? Do you hold them differently?

[Anonymous No.9389117]

>>9389093
I hate the original big 3 button sega paddle. I know anons on here love it. I don't know if anyone here can predict if you will too. You just gotta try it.

[Anonymous No.9389121]

>>9389093
I wish they had just made a 3 button...

[Anonymous No.9389128]

Where's the Start? And Menu while we're at redesigning it.

[Anonymous No.9389138]

>>9389128
Its above the xyz, the usb/wireless version has couple additional buttons too
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaqKRoplZv8

[Anonymous No.9389139]

>>9389093
Retrobit is garbage, don't buy
"Officially licensed" means jack shit coming from SEGA, they'll license fucking everything as long as it makes them money, quality be damned

[Anonymous No.9389143]

>>9389093
If you need a sega controller get the m30 2.4 Ghz. It's one of the few examples of modern day progression actually improving something. I honestly consider it the perfect controller. Some people report it having a bad dpad but I think they just got a bad batch.

[Anonymous No.9389151]

>>9389143
based m30 enjoyer

[Anonymous No.9389160]

>>9389139
I ordered daemon bite so my choices are limited between
> retrobit sega controllers
> noname chink shit
> 8bitdo m30
>>9389143
That would have been my first choice too, but the de9 version is sold out everywhere so im looking at the retrobit ones. If they were available id definitely go for that.

[Anonymous No.9389282]

Fixed it for you.

[Anonymous No.9389323]

>>9389160
Oh my bad, yeah m30 is sold out. If you can hold off, I would wait for a restock, its worth it and 8bitdo's aren't usually out of stock for very long.

[Anonymous No.9389547]

retrobit is the biggest piece of shit company. garbage quality on all controllers I ever used by them. their 6 button Genesis pads don't even work on half the sega CD library and all of their controllers seem to drop inputs. avoid

[Anonymous No.9389574]

>>9389282
I got one of those earlier, I couldn't get it to run in on Windows 7. Hard to say if it was truly locked to W10 only or if I'm just retarded.

[Anonymous No.9389585]

>>9389547
>i have never actually owned any of their stuff, but i think hating them is a meme

[Anonymous No.9389612]

>>9389093
Try the Microsoft sidewinder 6-button usb version. It's essentially a Saturn controller with xbox ergonomics. Also 16-way dpad for the few games that support it. My favorite 2d pad

[Anonymous No.9389624]

>>9389612
That dpad is terrible.

[Anonymous No.9389658]

>>9389093
i swear my brother owned some 6 button big controllers like that. why i bought those retrobit ones i was disappointed with how small they were. i'd buy these, even though i know they'll feel cheap.

[Anonymous No.9389669]

>>9389093
>Was supposed to come out by late October
>Pushed to the end of the year without a delay even being announced
This shit is gonna suck

[Anonymous No.9389673]

>>9389282
do you think is this suitable for n64? i'm tired of my shitty controllers

[Anonymous No.9389675]

>>9389658
I think I've seen the same controller you're talking about, and of course some helpful autistic guy online has catalogued it. This one?

[Anonymous No.9389676]

>>9389143
no thanks. you shills already tricked me with their snes cons not gonna fall for it again

[Anonymous No.9389682]

i want this one so bad but they've been sold out since last year and i'm not giving my money to a scalper

[Anonymous No.9389692]

>>9389093
I'd get one and provide feedback but I am waiting for them to show up on Amazon like the crimson red 8 button ones eventually did. Castlemania overcharges for shipping.

[Anonymous No.9389701]

>>9389682
I want this so bad because it can be used on PC and N64 exclusives don't feel right with any other controller.

[Anonymous No.9389737]

>>9389139
seriously?

i have the saturn and genesis 2.4ghz pads and theyre literally fine
when they break i just replace them
they are always very cheap

i'll never buy 8shitdo after the BT laggy past

[Anonymous No.9389751]

>>9389624
sidewinder2 dpad is godtier
dont @ me
dont reply
im right

[Anonymous No.9390410]

>>9389093

Kind of reminds me of this gamepad... which is an actual Genesis pad that I owned, because I wanted a second 6 button controller and could not find the official ones from Sega. Ended up settling on this third party pad.

>>9389093
>Would this design feel comfortable or is it just a meme?

A lot of genesis/ mega Drive owners prefer the 3 button pad over the 6 button pad, because of its size. I have owned like half a dozen 3 button pads, and they are larger and did feel good to use. Aside from the lack of buttons, the original style pads were generally great.

[Anonymous No.9390429]

>>9389675

That's not an actual 6 button Genesis pad. The top buttons are all turbo A-B-C. Image related is another common third party Genesis 'turbo' controller I have come across back in the day.

[Anonymous No.9390583]

>>9390429
Ah shit, oops. I could've sworn I've seen one that was much like the one that guy was describing, though.

[Anonymous No.9390586]

>>9389585
nah im just dumb enough to have bought multiple of their controllers because i believed people when they said retrobit didnt suck. their saturn controller plastic under the dpad broke within 1 hour of play and their support wouldnt return emails. people think retrobit sucks for a reason

[Anonymous No.9390589]

>>9389547
works for me

[Anonymous No.9390605]

>>9390583
>Ah shit, oops. I could've sworn I've seen one that was much like the one that guy was describing, though.

I know there is a 6 button variant on that pad. I found an image of it. many of the Genesis / mega Drive third party controllers had 3 additional turbo buttons, which made it a bit confusing when actually looking for 6 button gamepads. the one you showed is just the 'Power Pad" image related is the "Power Pad 6", which has A,B,C and X,Y,Z buttons.

[Anonymous No.9390610]

>>9390605

here's one that I have seen in stores back in the day. It's another variant on the Power Pad, by Innovation. Innovation made a lot of third party peripherals for different consoles.

[Anonymous No.9390650]

>>9389547
You are probably right, but who else are making original controllers that have better quality control? Its such a niche market that its either retrobit with sega tax or aliexpress.
>>9389323
Im concerned that de9 version was made specifically for mega sg and since last batch of them is coming late next year its logical 8bitdo would restock it only then too.
>>9389692
Yeah, same, shipping to europe is usually $50+tax, with amazon its $20 including taxes.
>>9390410
Thanks for sharing. That does look more like the normal 6 button though. Im mostly interested in the difference in ergonomics of places where the base of your thumb rests.

Theory crafting follows.

In my opinion the original 3 button/big6 would kinda make you hold it with your wrists locked in and facing each other. Meanwhile normal sega 6button shape would probably be gripped with your wrists facing towards your body in a more natural, relaxed fashion. Given sega went with same grip design for saturn im concerned going back to the 3 button design is objectively worse but retrobit/sega are betting on nostalgia to milk the last cents from people that don't know better.

[Anonymous No.9390801]

>>9389093
It's Retro-Bit's way of compromising to appease the six button crowd instead of just giving us a three button controller. Still better than the standard six button, but the buttons are probably not as big as the three button

>>9389121
Agreed, I got a Switch one second hand a few weeks ago and it's perfect for emulation.

[Anonymous No.9391127]

>>9389139


Retrobit used to not suck, their original retro-trio that actually had a good sound chip was the best 3-in-1 hardware clone system until Hyperkin released their 3 in 1 HD version.

But they rode on that reputation hard. They now get shit chips from god knows where. Their controllers die after 2 years tops. Avoid.

[Anonymous No.9391208]

>>9391127
> Their controllers die after 2 years tops. Avoid.
Alternatives. DE9. Now. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.9392285]

Unrelated but where the hell do I buy a saturn scart cable now? Can't find any but no name chinese and I'm not ordering from retro gaming cables with their 3 week estimated dispatch time. Need one for the MISTER, think I'm going to pick one up with analog out via saturn DIN

[Anonymous No.9392761]

>>9392285
>now
Ask your mommy to drive you to the saturn scart cable shop?

[Anonymous No.9392774]

>>9392761
I need it now, I will not survive long without it

[Anonymous No.9393429]

>>9392774
I'd recommend holding your breath and stomping your foot. Always works for me.

[Anonymous No.9394107]

>>9393429
Wow I tried it and a scart cable flew over my house. Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.9394619]

Anyone one own Hyperkin Squire controller?
> https://www.amazon.com/Hyperkin-Premium-Controller-Genesis-MegaRetroN-sega/dp/B07M8DWCKV

The amazon reviews are all over the place and no one on youtube gives it any attention be it negative or positive.

[Anonymous No.9394729]

>>9389701
I bought a raphnet n64/gc v3 adapter and it's great. Had to buy a new joystick but its fantastic to play N64 with the correct controller. Its been so long since I did that.

[Anonymous No.9394745]

>>9392285
If you need it NOW, just get one on Ebay. that's the premium you pay for immediate gratification. Otherwise retro-access.com begins shipping the 28th.

[Anonymous No.9395086]

>>9390410
i just love 6-button controllers

[Anonymous No.9395846]

>>9389093
watch them continue to make A+Start the input mode switch method, breaking sonic level select cheats and requiring you to use a different fucking control scheme on kid chameleon

t. asshurt customer who likes everything about retro-bit's controllers except that gay shit

[Anonymous No.9395856]

>>9389143
i have 3 of them, they are fabulous

[Anonymous No.9395858]

>>9389143
This thing shipped with a sticky D-pad. I couldn't even take it apart to figure out the issue. If there was cum in it, it sure as hell wasn't mine.

[Anonymous No.9396869]

>>9395846
But everything about them and their controllers is gay shit

[Anonymous No.9396941]

>>9394619
Pretty good wish it was usb. Heavy and big for meaty man hands. Buy it anon

[Anonymous No.9396956]

>>9395858
Like I said. Bad batch. My feels great and the controller sells a lot, so most of them must have been fine.

[Anonymous No.9396961]

I have an original six button controller. It's nice but I don't have any games that actually support the extra buttons, except the 32x Virtua racer game which has a few shortcut buttons on XZY instead of tapping C to toggle the menu. Not really that interesting.

[Anonymous No.9397236]

>>9396869
i disagree; i quite like $10-20 new sega controllers that use the real molds

maybe its just because i haven't had an new original since the dawn of time, but i can't tell the difference.

[Anonymous No.9397572]

>>9397236
>the real molds
This bullshit again? Have some self respect.
>dawn of time
What a pathetic larp

[Anonymous No.9397587]

9397572
yawn. if you want to make a point about the quality of retrobits controllers, actually do so and not just sperg out and make yourself look like a jackass.

[Anonymous No.9397917]

>>9396941
I'm really leaning towards it.
> wish it was usb
Build a daemonbite for it:
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000210693219.html x2
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003622414316.html x1
It Will set you back $15, and you will be able to connect two controllers, you then just flash this:
> https://github.com/MickGyver/DaemonBite-Retro-Controllers-USB/tree/master/SegaTwoControllersUSB
And solder on the ports from the extension wires. The result is 2 ultra low latency usb controllers that dab on all wired usb ones that are prebaked with issues like >>9395846

[Anonymous No.9397987]

>9397587
>yawn. if you want to make a point about the quality of retrobits controllers, actually do so and not just sperg out and make yourself look like a jackass.

[Anonymous No.9398272]

>>9389673
I use it for that. It's also pretty comfy for non-/vr/ if it doesn't require two sticks, I was just playing Freedom Planet 2 on it desu.

[Anonymous No.9399929]

>>9389093
Has there been any news about when it's supposed to come out? Last I checked it was supposed to be late October.

[Anonymous No.9400007]

Sega not ditching the 3 button in favor of the 6 was the first in a long series of failure

[Anonymous No.9400009]

>>9396941
>>9397917
There's much better code that runs on the same hardware. Literally pointless to use that.
There's much better code that runs on other (cheaper) hardware. That shouldn't be an issue, but when you're paying $15 for something that should cost you <$5 that's a big difference. You could allegedly buy another garbage controller for that $10 difference.
It rarely makes sense to solder anything to a dev board other than a connector. Have a look at the daemonbite site and see how he uses terminals on his arcade shit. That's doing it right.
Then see that he solders the module instead of using a socket. That's doing it wrong. This is how you can tell he's retarded. Retardation is contagious. Don't catch it.

[Anonymous No.9400424]

>>9399929
Yeah it was, dates mean nothing these days. My de10 nano got pushed back from Dec 8 to Jan 8 so guess christmas is fucked..
>>9400009
No idea what your point is, what i posted is the components for controller + cables +shipping from ali, if you can find them cheaper - please post.
> There's much better code that runs on the same hardware. Literally pointless to use that.
Wheres that code? I'm not improvising to shave $2 out of $5 controller just to realize i backed myself into a corner and have to wait another month for the real deal.

[Anonymous No.9400475]

>>9400424
>No idea what your point is
Then you really shouldn't be playing with daddys soldiering iron
>I'm not improvising
Sounds like you are. As in putting on a show and just making it up as you go along. Seems you haven't even done your homework let alone done the actual work.

[Anonymous No.9400751]

>>9389093
I had a Genesis as a kid with a 3 button controller, so I'm used to it.
I always thought it was comfortable, but I have kind of lanky hands so the larger controller was more comfortable than smaller stuff like the SNES controller.

[Anonymous No.9401272]

>>9400475
> no code, no examples, virgin anger
>>9400751
That makes sense, it does feel like most older controllers from that era
targeted smaller hands.

[Anonymous No.9401430]

>>9389143
I wish they made an analog variant

[Anonymous No.9401874]

>>9401272
>virgin anger

[Anonymous No.9402569]

Those look like controllers.