Is it the greatest game of all time?

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Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:04:09 2013 No.937714 [Reply] [Original]

Is it the greatest game of all time?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:05:39 2013 No.937716 Yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:06:09 2013 No.937721 Nope, it ain't even the best Zelda. That title belongs to Link's Awakening.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:06:39 2013 No.937719 No

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:07:09 2013 No.937727 File: 176 KB, 640x873, Kick_Master.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yeah, nah.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:10:39 2013 No.937741

Auto-jump with that camera....no.

I guess I get it was big since it was the first 3D Zelda and Zelda was pretty big at the time, but considering how much else was around I never saw it as that great.

But I said the same of Donkey Kong Country, 100 better sidescrollers at the time and yet friends were all over it. That one seemed a bit of graphics related though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:22:09 2013 No.937775 I don't know about All time, but it's fantastic nonetheless 9.8/10

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:24:09 2013 No.937779 It's at least in my top 10. Excellent storytelling.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:26:40 2013 No.937781 Currently playing it now. It was never such a chore to beat the GB Zeldas, I don't know why this one is. The dungeons seem very uninspired so far (at the fire temple, just got the hammer.)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:28:10 2013 No.937791 >>937781 So far...? You're only playing it for the first time?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:30:09 2013 No.937796 It's a very important game. And a very original game. I've never found it particularly compelling, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:30:40 2013 No.937794 >>937791 Yep. So no nostalgia-goggles here. Just what I feel. Though it's still just my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:30:40 2013 No.937795 >>937791 I am too

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:31:09 2013 No.937798
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>>937781
>The dungeons seem very uninspired
As opposed to 2D Zeldas that were only about corridors and locked doors?

You and I apparently have very different definitions of inspired.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:33:39 2013 No.937806 >>937791 >>937794 >>937795 I'm playing it for the first time too

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:35:09 2013 No.937809 >>937798 Felt a lot more fun to fight things instead of that lock on crap the 3D games have, and the graphics don't feel quite as dated, if only because they have that retro charm whereas OoT just looks...eh.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:37:40 2013 No.937814 >>937809 Figured. Obsessing about graphics on an early 3D game is a massive folly. Yes, 2D ages nicer. But if you played it when it was relevant it would not have bothered you very long.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:44:10 2013 No.937826

>>937814
As someone who played it in its time, there was better on the eyes even then.

But that aside the lack of jump control, the camera, slow walking speed, endless backtrack to make the map seem bigger than it really was, combat toned down to make it easier, annoying fairy, bonking off walls because the camera goes the wrong way.

It was a good early try, it was not a master piece in its own time.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:52:39 2013 No.937837

>>937826
>But that aside the lack of jump control
Why do you need to jump on command? This isn't a platformer. Yes it's unconventional but the game is built around how it is.

>the camera
Camera is a problem in a lot of 3D games. It was almost NEVER a problem here. I can't think of a single time camera didn't do more or less what I expected of it. When you walk to a ledge, it even thoughtfully looks down for you.

>slow walking speed
Only really an issue in the massive Hyrule field. Everywhere else is small enough that it's a reasonable pace.

>endless backtrack to make the map seem bigger than it really was
Between warps and Epona, you are really blowing this out of proportion. Only perhaps an issue in child Link phase.

>combat toned down to make it easier
I would have liked more combat challenges.

>annoying fairy
Blown wildly out of proportion for the sake of memetic status. She doesn't hassle you all that often. Only slightly an annoyance.

>bonking off walls because the camera goes the wrong way.
When? When does the camera go the wrong way exactly? Z centers it behind you. There's no reason you should struggle with OoT's camera.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:58:39 2013 No.937854

>>937837
That spinning pot you toss flowers at was the prime example. Fucking camera doesn't catch up fast enough and the auto-jump will send you off the cock gobbling edge. If you had control, it would not have been an issue. There were other areas that did this shit as well.

No the game was a dull trek across the same bloody field, older zeldas were huge by comparison we were just going oooooh its in 3D.

And no that fairy was damn well annoying, but to be honest Link screaming non-stop was worse.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:00:09 2013 No.937862 >>937854 If you had manual control over the jump, you'd just FALL off the edge instead of leap off it. But yes, the camera was tricky there I suppose.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:10:09 2013 No.937898 >>937854 >Fucking camera doesn't catch up fast enough and the auto-jump will send you off the cock gobbling edge. Having played the game a few dozen times, I don't remember ever having that problem. You might be bad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:12:39 2013 No.937905 when you say something is the great game you are also say that its the greatest genre (since you are saying no other genre has made anything as great)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:14:09 2013 No.937909 >>937905 Boy is that logic broken.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:14:09 2013 No.937910 File: 2 KB, 126x103, 6365670987.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>937905 wut?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:17:09 2013 No.937920 No, it doesn't even have Mech-riding/City Bulding elements.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:20:09 2013 No.937928

>>937905
Pulp Fiction is a great movie, but Action-Comedy is disgusting.
of Montreal is a fantastic Indie Pop band, but Indie, Pop, and Indie Pop are generally horrible genres.
Mario Galaxy 2 is a terrific 3D platformer, but 3d platforming is generally impossible to pull off well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:23:10 2013 No.937932 File: 26 KB, 380x354, lw52.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>937928 >Action-Comedy is disgusting RIIIIIIIIIIIGGS...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:25:40 2013 No.937937 >>937714 No. Stop asking.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:26:40 2013 No.937938 >>937932 >>/tv/

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:30:39 2013 No.937946

>>937714
It came from an era where actual classics dropped every month, or week in some cases. It was a great game, and still is, but it's nowhere near the best ever. I'd argue that there are somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 PS1 games that are just better, and 20 or so N64 games that are better, And that's just limiting things to it's own generation. If you count all gens, then the list jumps to a few hundred games that are genuinely better than OoC. At least 100 of witch have come out since the N64 died.

And no, I don't feel like listing them. I'm not looking for an argument here. Just to state my opinion in as sterile a manner as I can (witch is futile in and of itself...)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:31:09 2013 No.937948 >OP implying that there can be a best anything and that opinions are not completely subjective. GET OUT

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:45:39 2013 No.937975 File: 124 KB, 700x483, Hybridheaven.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's a great game OP, but I honestly and truly think this might be the best console game ever made.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:47:39 2013 No.937982 >>937946 what are your favourite genesis games?

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:48:39 2013 No.937984

>>937975
Weird levels with the robots and such. And quite often felt really vacant. But man, that story was fantastic. Combat was neat too.

Kind of strange how taking damage levels up your defenses. People might have a hard time if they don't realize taking a hit is a big part of leveling up. As well as learning those new moves.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:52:09 2013 No.937991

>>937984
I loved how the strategy was never really explained but explained itself as you learned the intricacies.

My first playthrough I realized offensive moves leveled the corresponding limb, so I set out to basically make my right arm the Godhand. The moment that I realized that taking hits is just as if not more important than delivering them was one of those legitimate "shout WHAT at the TV" moments.

I love that in games. Also the setting was outstanding. Remember running from that huge monster? Remember when you realize you aren't Diaz?

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:54:39 2013 No.937995

>>937975

One of the more rewarding games I've ever come across. I remember renting it at Blockbuster because I liked the cover art but I was hooked almost instantly.

Sci-Fi "Conspiracy" RPG with Pro-Wrestling combat? I'm amazed no one had tried it before.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:58:09 2013 No.937998 File: 188 KB, 351x523, Dan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>937721 thats like... your opinion, man. LttP is my favorite(best) because it was the first one I played.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 04:01:09 2013 No.938003 >>937714 yes simply for the huge amounts of feels you get

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 04:14:39 2013 No.938018

>>937721
I just beat link's awakening today. I think /vr/ has some serious nostalgia goggles, because it wasn't even close to the best zelda, or even the best 2d zelda. The plot was kind of touching for what there was of one.

Majora's Mask is the best zelda game ever made.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 04:15:39 2013 No.938020 >>937991 >dat twist One of the best in video games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 04:18:39 2013 No.938023 >>937721 this is what I came here to say >>938018 >I think /vr/ has some serious nostalgia goggles I never played the game until I saw it on the 3DS eShop

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 04:20:09 2013 No.938027 >>937714 How did this "OoT is the greatest game of all time shit" get started anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 04:23:09 2013 No.938031 >>937975 I tried to get into that game, but the setting really killed it for me, and the combat didn't interest me enough to keep going despite the setting. Granted, I only played it for about 3 hours. Is it worth another shot, or is it just not for me?

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 04:26:39 2013 No.938035

>>938031
The combat really picks up when you start learning some fucking crazy moves, and when your action/combo meter gets extended so you can start messing about with combinations.

The story really, really picks up pretty much right after you run from that huge-ass monster in the basement (if you didn't already).

I'm biased but I think it's worth another shot.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 04:35:09 2013 No.938051

>>937714

It's an important game. I wish people would leave it at that. Everyone can have their opinion, but it really is overrated. But some people take that as in I think the game is shit and that's not true. It's kinda like Neutral Milk Hotel on /mu/. It's just been discussed so much, everything's probably been said. Nostalgia goggles.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 04:59:39 2013 No.938082 >>938027 Nostalgia

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 05:18:40 2013 No.938104 >>937714 One of the greatest, indeed. Held up extremely strong for 10 years. I still think it holds up fairly well, but apparently people are in disagreement.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 05:25:09 2013 No.938113 >>937714 The greatest at what?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 05:45:40 2013 No.938134 OoT and MM are a separate chapter in the Zelda series, in the regular series the best chapter could be LtTP or WW or TP or whatever you want, but those two are just different, with their own atmosphere and an unique tone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 06:06:09 2013 No.938162 >>937975 My favorite N64 RPG, though there weren't many in the first place. I actually like it more than OoT, though then again I just think OoT is good and not phenomenal.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 10:49:40 2013 No.938514

>Is it the greatest game of all time?

I'm not qualified to make that assessment, but I can say this: no game has ever blown my mind from start to finish like Ocarina did when I first played it. Perhaps everybody has "that one game" and for a lot of people, this was it.

It's not my favorite game anymore, but that first run will probably always be my most memorable playthrough of a game. I could definitely ramble on about everything this game did but I'll probably save that for a rainy day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 11:03:40 2013 No.938534 >>937714 Gods no. It's a fine game for what it is, but the thing about Zelda games is that they aren't especially outstanding in any respect.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 11:11:10 2013 No.938540 Majora's was better.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 11:20:10 2013 No.938558
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>>938540
My African American!
Though in all honesty neither are the best game ever, they're fantastic games but in no way are they the best game ever.

Also regarding my preference to Majora's Mask, I will still say that there are a lot of things Ocarina of Time did better, such as dungeon design, story etc. However Majora's Mask I just found a far more satisfying gaming experience.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 11:28:40 2013 No.938570 >>938534 >the thing about Zelda games is that they aren't especially outstanding in any respect. The early ones were. OoT a dull and dreary.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 11:31:40 2013 No.938574

random question: can you complete the spirit temple after beating the forest temple? i cant think of why not. you can get the longshot from the water temple, without beating it. you can get the lens of truth after beating forest.

whats stopping you from beating spirit? does shiek not appear if you dont beat forest, fire and water first?

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 11:35:11 2013 No.938583

>>938570
I think he was referring more to the fact that pretty much everything after the N64 titles has been the same thing over and over again. The handhelds up until the tripe they spewed out onto the DS were fantastic but eh, the home console series pretty much died after Wind Waker.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 11:43:40 2013 No.938596 >>938583 Well, I think the early Zelda games are fantastic, and I like some of the later ones too (MM, WW), but I honestly have no idea why OoT is so popular. Quite possibly the most overrated game ever.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 12:32:40 2013 No.938703

>>938596
I'd say Final Fantasy 7 takes the most overrated game ever trophy, but you're right, Ocarina of Time isn't far behind. I guess it comes down to the impact it had around the time it came out, there weren't really any other 3D action adventure games on that kind of scale, so it was kind of a benchmark during the transition from 2D to 3D gaming. Since then it has been surpassed greatly by other games but for 1998 it really stood out as an epic adventure.

When replaying it in this era, I do think that it could have been much better. Hyrule field for example could have had so much more in it rather than just a ranch and a few holes in the ground. This is why I prefer Majora's Mask so much, they packed it full of sidequests, gave the NPCs purpose and personality and really came up with a truly immersive experience in a world just so full of wonder and mystery.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 14:09:10 2013 No.938894 >>937721 This guy knows what's up.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 14:14:40 2013 No.938906

>>937796
What on Earth is original about OoT?

The dungeon crawling? already existed back in the 1980s.

3D console action? Tomb Raider.

Trading sequence? Link's Awakening.

Story? SAVE THE WORLD AND PRINCESS... Yes, very original, that.

Actions in one world having consequences in the other? LttP.

Z targetting, I suppose. But I wouldn't be overly surprised if I'm proven wrong.

OoT was competently executed. The combat is excellent. The story and characters are... Meh.

But innovative? Nope.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 14:24:40 2013 No.938926 >>938906 Didnt Megaman Legends have something similar to Z targetting?

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:21:48 2013 No.939056

>>938906
I just played through Ocarina for the first time in 14 years and I agree with most of this. >>937826's comment about the excessive reliance on backtracking is also a good one; so often the game feels more like busywork than it does a genuine adventure or puzzle. It's great at providing the illusion of depth for children, who were its target demographic, but that's not enough for GOAT status.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:36:18 2013 No.939092 >>937721 No, that's Oracle of Seasons you faggot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:38:18 2013 No.939093 >>939056 >It's great at providing the illusion of depth for children, who were its target demographic This. I remember loving the game as a kid, I spent a fuckton of time exploring it. Then I played it again it was pretty empty.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:41:19 2013 No.939105 File: 11 KB, 320x350, lol.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>938018 >I think /vr/ has some serious nostalgia goggles

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:48:49 2013 No.939124 I've always admired the quality of these games, but I've never found them interesting enough to actually bother playing though. Out of curiosity, which Zelda game do you big fans of the series consider the greatest?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:55:18 2013 No.939149 >>939124 You are never going to get an answer to that question from the zelda fanbase. I would say MM, however.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:55:48 2013 No.939150 >>939124 My favourite is A Link to the Past.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:59:49 2013 No.939162 >>938926 Yes. But it wasn't like you ever had to use it, auto-targeting was good enough for 95% of the game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:01:19 2013 No.939168 >>939149 I wasn't looking for a definitive answer. Just taking a poll of sorts of people in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:01:49 2013 No.939169 >>939124 Personally, Wind Waker. A lot of people don't like it because of all the sailing, but I thought it did a great job of making it feel like a large, expansive world. I also really like the visual style.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:03:48 2013 No.939175 >>939124 Zelda 2.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:05:49 2013 No.939180 File: 11 KB, 298x284, a09.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>937826 I guess you could say it consumed alot of time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:07:19 2013 No.939186 >>939124 Links Awakening > Oracle of Seasons > Majora's Mask > Ocarina of Time > Link to the Past > Adventure of Link > Legend of Zelda >Opinions

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:07:19 2013 No.939187 >>939124 Ocarina of Time. It's been years and years since I played Majora's Mask, I'll wait until I can play through it again to declare it my favorite.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:10:18 2013 No.939193 >>939124 Six responses. Six different responses. Impressive.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:12:48 2013 No.939206

Is it possible to be completely bored by OoT yet enjoy MM quite a lot? Everything about OoT felt just... bland and uninspired. So bland that they even forgot to include the series' theme in the soundtrack. MM improved (no more "linear game in a seemingly open world" deception) on the exploration, the atmosphere, the mask system was cool, and despite being shorter the game feels much more compact and feature-packed than the plodding and half-empty OoT. The time mechanic could get tedious at times, but that's mainly because there's no way to skip the ocarina songs; hearing timeskip the millionth time was just annoying.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:15:18 2013 No.939215 >>939206 >Is it possible to be completely bored by OoT yet enjoy MM quite a lot? Yes. MM is kind of the odd one out compared to the rest of the series, which is pretty formulaic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:17:18 2013 No.939221 >>939206 You must be new to 4chan, where no anon will hesitate to tell you how much better they think MM is than OoT for no reason but to make sure you know.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:19:19 2013 No.939229 >>939221 But most still think of OoT as a good game. I stopped thinking OoT "will get good" somewhere around Jabu-Jabu's Belly, and the only place I rather enjoyed in it was the shadow temple.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:20:49 2013 No.939232 >>939229 Jabu-Jabu is actually where I stopped playing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:24:18 2013 No.939239 >>939232 The best part are the adult dungeons, but it is still a very overrated game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:26:48 2013 No.939243 >>939239 Yeah the child dungeons are pretty weak in retrospect. And while I may argue it's overrated, I'm not sure since it gets tons of hate now days as well due to backlash. I'd also argue that MM is overrated as well though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:35:18 2013 No.939259 >>939239 Fire temple is the worst dungeon in the game though, and water temple is also pretty damn boring.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:35:18 2013 No.939261 >>939232 >be replaying OoT recently >cruise through the game, get BigGoron's Sword ASAP when adult >Water Temple >DEAD STOP Fucking tedious shit, man. Not hard, just fucking tedious.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:39:48 2013 No.939274

I would say OoT a bit overrated but it's definitely not a pile of shit, which seems to be the growing opinion now that Majora's Mask is getting more attention. I rather enjoyed the storytelling, and the adult/child sidequests are pretty cool. I didn't find anything wrong with the dungeons, except for the Water Temple, for the same reasons that everybody else bitches about the Water Temple. I do have to say that OoT has some of my favorite boss fights in the series, between Gohma, Volvagia and Phantom Gannon.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 17:11:18 2013 No.939349

>>939274
>>938514
I pretty much agree with these.

The thing with Ocarina of Time is that it does very well in most areas of gameplay/music/graphics/controls. While there are games that posses a single identical aspect to it and do it vastly better, for example the combat, I've yet to find one that doesn't neglect any other area and is as wholesome in its quality as OoT.

I feel there is a certain deception while looking at any one attribute of the game. I get the impression that some people, like >>937946, just look at a single thing, say difficulty, and declare there are games out there that do that much better. I don't think it does it justice since most of those games don't have the other things Ocarina has going for it.

This game just feels like more than the sum of its parts, and is a rare instance of a game that truly has no real weak points. No, not even Hyrule Field or the Water Temple. I'll admit those have some dubious design choices, but they serve their purpose well enough in the game without detracting too much from the overall quality, Hyrule Field giving an open feel to the game, conveniently connecting each area while not taking very long to traverse and having lots of hidden little caves to find, and the Water Temple being a maze that still manages to feel rewarding when you do find all the keys.

This isn't a game for everyone though, and those that claim it's perfect must not have been gaming for very long. Still, if you want raw adventure in an immersive world with lots of examples of plain good game design, I can think of no better game than Ocarina of Time to play.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 17:15:49 2013 No.939359 yes, it is + special place in my heart. 10/10 game. no other 3D Zelda was that good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 17:17:18 2013 No.939369 >>939349 >Water Temple >doesn't detract from to quality too much No In fact FUCK NO The Water Temple wasn't just "dubious" in it's design, it was downright bad. Also, "immersive" is not a word I would use to describe any Zelda.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 17:19:18 2013 No.939374 >>938018 >I think /vr/ has some serious nostalgia goggles where the hell do you think you are? >Majora's Mask is the best zelda game ever made. doesn't hold a candle to OoT which can be seen by its lack of dungeons.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 17:22:20 2013 No.939380

>>939369
>Also, "immersive" is not a word I would use to describe any Zelda.

the thing is, a lot of people use that word despite not knowing what immersion even means. a game can be immersive despite not being a first person perspective game. just a hint for the future that should come up again whenever you use that word. and no, I'm not going to spoon-feed anybody ITT about it.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 17:24:48 2013 No.939385

>>939369
The Water Temple had a lot of annoying parts, and it is very much the weakest dungeon in the game. But truly bad? There are plenty of games that are considered very good whose best levels are a tad worse than the Water Temple. And if all else fails, there's always walkthroughs so you can beat it in 15 minutes and never look back.

And immersive is the word I used. There isn't a moment in the game where I feel like I'm in a sterile environment doing one challenge after another. The game is very good in portraying every location as part of a bigger world.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 17:26:18 2013 No.939396 IMO none of the Zeldas are that great. The only one I've really liked is LttP, though I haven't played any of the handheld ones. I should probably give LA a try since I got it from Club Nintendo for free.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 17:35:49 2013 No.939417

All I know is that it was the first game I bought with my own money, and I can still remember how blown away I was when I first played it. It was also the first game I played through with my Dad and it brings back good memories. It's still my favourite Zelda game and I've played all of them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 17:36:19 2013 No.939421 >>939374 It's refreshing to see a Zelda game that sees the overworld as little more than just empty space between dungeons. And you're forgetting that the dungeons themselves were longer than OoT's.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 17:37:19 2013 No.939424 >>939421 *as a little more

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 17:52:49 2013 No.939474

When you review and give a note to a videogame, you're doing it like it was the day it was released. You just can't compare it with modern games and say "hey, it wasn't that great after all, this game is better!". It's called respect and not being a retard, and this is why Ocarina of Time is and will always one of the best, and for fans considered the best, of all.

There's no point with other arguments. No person didn't liked this game back in 1998. The people that hate it or claim that it's mediocre or bad are just edgy haters that don't like popular stuff.

Hell, it's like saying Madonna is shit because Lady Gaga it's better. You niggas need to get some common sense and stop acting like underage faggots.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 17:58:18 2013 No.939485 The best Zelda game isn't even /vr/ related.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 17:58:18 2013 No.939486

>>939474
Everything about this post is wrong, though. Classic games and modern games can be compared side-by-side. The concept of games "aging" is repellent to me. I've not witnessed such a thing. Anyway, I certainly didn't care for OoT in 1998 anyway. I remember thinking it was boring. Likewise Madonna and Lady Gaga can also be directly compared. I really don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 17:59:48 2013 No.939489

>>939474
>No person didn't liked this game back in 1998. The people that hate it or claim that it's mediocre or bad are just edgy haters that don't like popular stuff.

Nobody can have a different opinion, or they're a troll/hater. Got it.
I love OoT, but really, it's people like you that give fans a bad name.

>get some common sense and stop acting like underage faggots.

Perhaps you should take your own advice.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 18:00:18 2013 No.939491

>>939474
But the thing is, when you're reviewing shit, you're recommending a game to someone. With a review you're supposed to recommend a game TODAY to people who haven't played it yet and are interested in it, not stroke the fans' e-penises. Only a select few people have interest in videogame history over playability (and those people shouldn't seek such information from reviews in the first place), pretty much everybody would rather select a good yet derivative game over one that's innovative for its time yet boring.
>Hell, it's like saying Madonna is shit because Lady Gaga it's better.
Don't see why that's not a valid thing to say. Is Chuck Berry automatically better than the Beatles (and subsequently everything they've inspired) because he predates them?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 18:01:19 2013 No.939494 >>939485 Please tell me it's not Wind Waker. Motherfucking sailing and "HEY LINK GO HERE YOU COULD GO OVER THERE BUT I REALLY THINK YOU SHOULD GO OVER HERE FIRST LOOK I PUT A MARKER ON YOUR MAP SO YOU SHOULD GO THERE" ruin that game for me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 18:03:19 2013 No.939497 >>939474 So, you're saying that if one game is older, than it's unfair to compare it to newer games. So Asteroids is better than Perfect Dark. Got it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 18:04:19 2013 No.939503 I never finished a single Zelda, they're just so mindnumbing boring

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 18:04:49 2013 No.939502 >>939497 >So Asteroids is better than Perfect Dark. Got it. This is actually true

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 18:06:18 2013 No.939505
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>>939474
>No person didn't liked this game back in 1998.
>The people that hate it or claim that it's mediocre or bad are just edgy haters that don't like popular stuff.
That's a good one, man.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 18:11:48 2013 No.939510

>>939503
It's okay. Action/adventure games just aren't for you.

Same with me and turn-based rpgs. Right now I'm trying to force myself through FF6. Some of the concepts this game has going for it are pretty interesting, but I keep getting bored to tears. Haven't played it for a few days now and having a hard time picking it back up again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 18:19:49 2013 No.939535 >>939494 To be honest, it would be a massive pain without the markers. The sailing was bad enough when you knew where to go.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 18:22:49 2013 No.939545

>>939535

It's the enforced linearity that bothers me. In OoT you have to go in a certain sequence and you're generally given an idea where to go, but WW definitely stepped it up, to the detriment of both the storytelling and the gameplay. When I'm sailing, I can hardly remember where I'm going or why it's important, just that the boat told me to go somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 18:24:48 2013 No.939552 >>939494 I was thinking of Twilight Princess.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 18:26:48 2013 No.939558 >>939552 I actually really want to play that, but the cheapest copies I've seen online are $40 disc-only.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 18:28:18 2013 No.939562 >>937714 It's my personal favourite game of all time just for the amount of fun i had while playing it and the new things i discover about it until this day, so i'm okay with it holding that title

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 19:07:48 2013 No.939659 >>937714 That's not Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 19:11:49 2013 No.939668 ITT: Kids try to find faults with the most-nearly-perfect video game evr made

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 19:12:18 2013 No.939671 >>939668 Super Mario Bros 3? Super Mario World? Mega Man X? Super Metroid? Those are the closest games to perfect.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 19:26:18 2013 No.939703

OoT fuckin sucked. I tried playing it for the first time a few months ago and quit at the part where you go into the fish. It looks like shit graphically and hurt my eyes (this is why i dont play n64), that owl was a true nigger and pissed me off, and i felt like all i was doing was running in circles. I really dont understand how anyone could say this is the greatest game of all time. You REALLY have to be stuck in the past with some serious nostalgia goggle because that game is crap. It is good for n64 i guess but thats not saying a lot since there are only 2 good games for that system.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 19:27:18 2013 No.939705 >greatest game of all time >20fps Even the 3DS remake is only 30fps.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 19:32:19 2013 No.939719 >>939705 >muh smoothness Quit being a baby. If limitations get you down then why are you playing retro games?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 19:40:48 2013 No.939732 >>939671 >super mario world I love it, but nearly perfect? Why, because you can fly over the whole game?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 21:45:12 2013 No.939946 ITT: Overrated shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 21:59:03 2013 No.939970 >>939946 Check out the edge on this guy.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 22:07:48 2013 No.939984

>>939970
But he's right, it is overrated. He didn't call it bad, which this game isn't, but it sure as hell is overrated, I mean, look at the flaws, we have a light medallion you get for doing nothing, a half-completed dungeon you have to go through, having to change boots every 5 fucking seconds in the water temple, incomplete areas (haunted wasteland and gerudo temple) and incomplete sidequests (running man). Not to mention the game is buggy and has a tendancy to lag sometimes. It's still a good game, but not the best game ever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 22:09:19 2013 No.939990 >>939719 2D games feel very smooth faggot Retro PC shooters feel very smooth faggot All sorts of old retro games feel very smooth faggot I can't think of any SNES games that didn't feel smooth apart from Star Fox for instance faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 22:15:19 2013 No.939997 Who thinks there is even a greatest game of all time? There's games you enjoy and think are fun, and games that are shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 23:42:48 2013 No.940186 >>939997 This.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 23:45:18 2013 No.940194 >>939510 Play Grandia instead it has the best turn based mechanics ever thought up.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 01:54:48 2013 No.940412

>>939385
>The game is very good in portraying every location as part of a bigger world.

I'd argue this this is OoT's single strongest quality, the thing that makes it stand out among everything else. No other game comes close to OoT's ability to make every part of itself feel like it's an interconnected part of something larger. It's an entirely worthy reason to call it the GOAT.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 02:07:48 2013 No.940431

This was my first Zelda. During 8-bit and 16-bit generations I mostly just played platformers, fighters, and beat-em-up type games . I was super intimidated by this game so I bought a strategy guide and basically read exactly what I was supposed to do before making a move because I was so worried I'd get lost. Even though I pretty much ruined the game for myself by doing that, I still have fond memories of playing it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 04:33:49 2013 No.940647 >>939984 >He didn't call it bad He called it shit.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 04:52:52 2013 No.940668

>>939349
>No, not even Hyrule Field or the Water Temple.
I never understood the hate for either. Well. I sort of understand the hate on the water temple, with the constant boot switching, but it never bothered me. Hyrule field is excellent - NOT filling it up with enemies would've made OoT a Castlevania 64-like mess. Making it bigger would've been an option - I like the sailing and the sense of scale it gives you in WW, after all -, but the smaller area works just fine. And the relative paucity of secrets... Well, actually, I don't think the secrets/ unit of area ratio is much different from LttP or LA, tbh. And too many secrets destroy immersion (How many people dug their chests in here, ffs?).

As I noted here >>938906 - OoT isn't particularly innovative, but it's competently executed. I'll happily criticise its trite, worn-down storyline (Compare to LA or MM), and it's strong focus on dungeon crawling (But that doesn't make a game bad, it simply means it appeals to a different kind of player), but Hyrule field... Everything done right, tbh.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 05:01:23 2013 No.940676

>>939659
You know...

Goemon had awesome characters and music, but the gameplay was... Meh. Dodgy platforming, pretty simple dungeons. Okay, the bossfights were awesome beyond compare.

If you combined Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon's brilliant characterisation, overworld exploration, NPC interaction and soundtrack with OoT's combat mechanics and more complex dungeon design...

GOAT game right there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 05:12:53 2013 No.940683 >>939274 Am I the only person who didn't have trouble with the water temple? I beat that when I was like 6

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 09:20:22 2013 No.940925

>>939552
If you think that's the best Zelda game you have brain damage, my friend.

>worst zelda soundtrack ever made, like really fucking bad
>most annoying and stupid battle themes
>inconsistent game design such as being able to open doors as a wolf in the desert temple but you can't do so in the snowpeak ruins
>way too many retarded environment cutscenes or losing control too often because "lollookatthatroom"
>targeting is shit, controls as wolf fucking suck
>finished snowpeak ruins recently but had to go back inbetween just to buy bombs because there were none and you need them for the cannons there
>not being able to use your oillamp instead
>that whole twilight theme seems so out of place, I know that's the point but it just doesn't fit in a good way
>horseriding is a chore since the controls are shit and differ too much from OoT Epona so you can't go after enemies that fast to protect the cart with Illia in it.
>Hyrule fields are completely empty and boring
>tear collecting = shitty collectathon
>too many rupees within chests in a dungeon
>there is never a merchant when you need him
>can't warp anywhere because that stupid whore goes "lol there are people around, nobody must see u!!!!"
>feel like destroying that shitty leftover shackle on the wolf's foot but can't
>hate Midna like no tomorrow
>hate those stupid giants
>hate those 3 useless fucks in Telma's bar
>retarded howling and unlocking sword techniques that way

fuck this retarded faggot game. hopefully it will never be made again. Wind Waker was pretty damn cool though. I liked that approach way more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 09:22:22 2013 No.940929 There is no such thing as a best game of all time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 09:22:22 2013 No.940932 >>940929 >Is it the greatest game of all time? A game can not be the greatest of all time. Another game will come along and do something better then it.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 19:20:54 2013 No.942058

>>940925
umm, ot that dude but..(in order)
>not really, I enjoyed it
>then again, nuhuh
>Not necesary
>at least it´s not ss, but yeah, you could say that
>Played the wii version, didn´t notice
>you suck at item management, there are chests with bombs as well
>you need a cannonball to shoot from a cannon, or please explain better
>Pff i liked the twilight realm... what´s wrong with it?
>Point given, although I passed the whole caravan thing on my first try...
>point given, could be a shorter trip between spots
>point given, although it´s less than the first third of the game, also you have a map with the tears in it
>You need those ruppees if you want the infinity armor+1
Not the best zelda, but I think it is my favorite along wth majora´s mask and link´s awakening
>bubuhhh... mah zelda 2
Piss off, it´s a bad game.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 19:30:24 2013 No.942063

>>940925
Continuing from "there is never a merchant when you need him"
>LOL you really suck at item management
>have you tried like going out of sight? there is a lot of hiding spots
>LOLwut?
>Not being Midnasexual= you must like traps
>you mean the spirits? what?
>Not being Ashei sexual= Ponyfag pls
>Not liking sword techs
>liking Wind Waker
So... i guess you also like games that hold you by the hand then

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 19:31:55 2013 No.942067 >>937714 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 19:43:55 2013 No.942085 >>939719 Low framerate is a disease of the 5th generation. Older games rarely had that problem.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 19:46:24 2013 No.942092 >>942085 I honestly don´t see the satanism in framerate drops, even modern games have them >Inb4: muh pc How is overheating treating ya?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 19:49:54 2013 No.942096 >>940925 >Bunch of silly complains >Enjoys Wind Waker I don't even.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 19:55:54 2013 No.942115 >>942096 WW fanbase in a nutshell

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 19:59:25 2013 No.942126

>>942092
I don't play games with lower framerate than 60fps (excluding slowdown in shmups, which I'm forced to tolerate because overclocking the emulated CPU to fix it like I'd normally do will mean I can no longer compare my score with anybody). In the case of PC games my minimum is 120fps.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 20:03:24 2013 No.942136 >>942126 >In the case of PC games my minimum is 120fps. minecraft doesn`t count as a game

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 20:06:24 2013 No.942140 >>942136 Quake series all run at a solid 120fps with modest hardware requirements. I've never played Minecraft.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 20:07:25 2013 No.942143 >>942126 >Implying your brain cannot compensate for the rest of the frames even at 18fps why?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 20:09:25 2013 No.942149 >>942140 >quake I guess you haven't followed recent developments where PC games have a fps locked to 60 or in some cases 30

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 20:09:55 2013 No.942147 >>942143 If I have to imagine so much of the game then I might as well imagine all of it. It will be more fun that way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 20:11:54 2013 No.942151 >>942149 I'm aware of that, but I almost always play /vr/ on-topic games so it's not relevant to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 20:13:54 2013 No.942157 >>938574 You have to become young link again to complete the first part of the temple, and Sheik doesn't move from the pedestal of time until' after you beat the forest temple.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 20:14:24 2013 No.942158 >>942147 >Imagine >Imagine >IMAGINE I forgot how to brain

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 21:58:25 2013 No.942347 >mfw you people are only shit talking about Ocarina Of Times little mistakes (ex: camera angles) You do remember this was back in the late 90's right? Technology just started improving.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 22:00:25 2013 No.942350 >>942096 My sentiments exactly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 22:14:25 2013 No.942384 >>937714 Honestly? Yes. It did almost everything right. Blew me away when it first came out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 22:15:25 2013 No.942389 >>937809 Z targeting makes sense for a 3d game actually. Don't know how you knock that out of everything to criticize in the game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 22:50:55 2013 No.942440 >>937854 >prime by prime do you mean only? Even so its not that hard to not fall off, you probably just suck at controlling and timing. I've never had a problem handling either of the N64 Zelda games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 22:56:55 2013 No.942458 >>942347 Don't dare tell me that shitty camera angles were acceptable in the late '90s. I've sat through enough nightmare scenarios with them to know well about that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 01:17:26 2013 No.942832 >>942458 Resident evil says hi

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 01:36:26 2013 No.942894

>>939349
I would have to agree. OoT is more than the sum of its parts, and its almost perfectly executed. It isn't the best in terms of singular aspects, but when you take it as a whole, its so strong, and so very powerful (let alone to a young child), that its just one of the best games ever made. Easily. Its just too well executed, and for the most part only the water temple really stands out as a major weak point, and only because of boot switching and that stupid block that moves out of the way when you move the water (and thus you don't return to see it because you didn't know it even moved).

I would also have to agree that the game IS immersive. I'd get dragged in to it, get lost for hours, and never really get pulled out. The music, controls (you don't have to fight them), and atmosphere of the game are extremely conducive to getting lost in the world.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 12:08:42 2013 No.943778 >>942894 I have zero complaints about the water temple. I think it's ingenious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 12:15:43 2013 No.943790 I love OoT, and I'm 27--I played LoZ, ALttP, and LA before it, but MM and TP are my favorite Zeldas But Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts is the greatest game of all time

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 12:16:42 2013 No.943792 >>943790 Just my opinion

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 12:34:42 2013 No.943821 >>938027 When nintendo power put it on the top of it's 100 best games list. It got me thinking that it was true. I still kind of do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 12:38:12 2013 No.943828 >>943821 NP's not the only pub that's put it at the top.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 12:38:42 2013 No.943829 The greatest game of all time is the game you like the most.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 13:11:12 2013 No.943875 >>943829 Then it's clearly Link's Awakening

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 13:19:42 2013 No.943884 >>943875 >having this bland of taste

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 13:21:43 2013 No.943889

If you really look at it, Majora's Mask is barely even a Zelda game. That's why so many Zelda fans don't consider it that great (without even realizing that's the reason) and so many even hate it. It's also why it's able to go beyond Zelda and be so amazing.

>>	Vitamin Shoppe Brah Sun Jul 28 13:27:42 2013 No.943905 File: 392 KB, 492x487, 1374549003682.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>939180

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 13:35:42 2013 No.943913 >>943889 Many Zelda fans love it for that reason though, because it still holds the core mechanics of a Zelda game while being different.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 13:35:42 2013 No.943914 >>940925 I agree with you man , I just finished TP last night and I was so disappointed. There wasn't a single boss fight in the entire game that was even remotely challenging and most of the dungeons sucked ass.

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 13:40:42 2013 No.943920

it, along with Quake, very much established the basics of 3D gaming. Zelda explored the third person perspective and quake the first person perspective. One can use these two games and draw plenty of wisdom about the essential differences between 2D and 3D gaming.

So yeah, arguably the greatest game but hardly the best.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 13:42:42 2013 No.943923 >>940925 That scene near the end with that one guy shooting the bazooka thing seemed really out of place.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 13:43:42 2013 No.943925 >>943914 Sadly this applies to every Zelda from WW on. TP is just the one that gets the brunt of hate for this due to...well, being TP.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 13:44:42 2013 No.943926 WHY DIDN'T WIND WAKER HAVE FISHING?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 13:52:13 2013 No.943937 >>943925 Wind Waker had some fun dungeons.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 14:00:42 2013 No.943947 >>943926 Good question.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 14:01:12 2013 No.943950 File: 90 KB, 250x171, 250px-Kirby_Super_Star_Coverart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] But that isn't Kirby Super Star

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 14:05:43 2013 No.943958 >>943926 If I remember correctly they actually say that the ocean in Wind Waker is mostly fishless. It's been awhile though so I could be wrong

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 14:11:13 2013 No.943971 >>937714 No, but it's really really good.

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 14:12:43 2013 No.943973
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this is not even in my top 100

I played it once, just because it was a zelda

when will you little fucks understand that you are in your twenties

console generation #52 or whatever you grew up during was just a slow fucking integration of 3d into an extremely mature console tradition, with weak processors and a toy controller

greatest game of all time is something like doom, street fighter 2, pacman, ultima, tetris, civilization, super metroid, etc

not chasecam console shit #536

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 14:15:42 2013 No.943976
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Whenever I ask someone why OoT is their favorite Zelda game, they pretty much will always say "Because it was the first one I played." I think if any Zelda game could have the title of "the best game ever," then it'd probably be A Link to the Past or Majora's Mask in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 14:15:42 2013 No.943978 >>943973 i say, i say this poster's as sharp as a bowling boy

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 14:25:13 2013 No.944005

>>943976
>Whenever I ask someone why OoT is their favorite Zelda game, they pretty much will always say "Because it was the first one I played."
Nigga please. My first Zelda (and the only one I played as a child) was Link's Awakening DX. Played OOT for the first time 2 years ago and along with Majora's Mask it's by far my favorite.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 14:25:43 2013 No.944002 >>943937 So did TP. I actually think WW's dungeons were the weakest of the 3D games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 14:46:13 2013 No.944039 File: 393 KB, 1600x1200, IMG00066-20130728-1338.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw this thread made me replay it Time to track down everything also >>943973 Fuck your shit, it´s still a very good game

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 14:53:42 2013 No.944052 >>944005 Well, my first was the original, and I'd say LttP and OoT are tied for me. But I wouldn't say either are the greatest game ever...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:21:42 2013 No.944110 >>940925 Are you literally a child?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:43:42 2013 No.944148 >>937716 >>937719 Maybe

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:34:14 2013 No.946267 >>944052 My first was also the original, and LttP and OoT are also almost tied for me. However, I do consider OoT the GOAT.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:40:14 2013 No.946270 >>946269 CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION?!?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:40:44 2013 No.946269 >>944148 I don't know

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 05:00:15 2013 No.948381

According to a Wikipedia article, it's the best game of all time besides Super Mario Galaxy 2. I for myself have to say that I can't decide between LoZ:OoT and Guild Wars 2 but I am more on the side of OoT.

I still remember the moments, when I was a child and wanted my dad to play OoT. When I listen to the soundtrack nowadays... it's just incredible. It reminds me of so many things and sometimes it makes me even cry.

And yes, the game itself is not really an innovation, but who cares? Everything has been in a game before, but only parts of OoT. What makes OoT is that there are so many little things of other games combined in just one single game. In addition to that the composer of the soundtrack did a really awesome job.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:47:42 2013 No.949393 >>948381 Curious. I always found OoT's soundtrack pretty unremarkable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:10:20 2013 No.949668 >>949393 It's not about FF battle music-style standouts, it's about ambiance. OOT's soundtrack perfectly relays the emotional significance of certain events and locations.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:22:07 2013 No.949689

>>948381
this has to be a troll post
"guild wars 2 is one of the greatest games of all time" >implying grinding makes a good game

"ocarina of time is not innovative" It was one of the earliest adventure-style games in a 3d setting. Every other 3d adventure game was inspired by it

"What makes OoT is that there are so many little things of other games combined in just one single game"
Thats kind of how adventure games are annon.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:24:07 2013 No.949692

>>949668
Not him, but I find FF's battle music to be really ill-advised. It's always this upbeat sympho-rock sort of thing that tries to steal the spotlight, but ends up not actually underlining the tension of the combat scenario at all. There is no drama to the fights, they occur like some comical music videos.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:32:38 2013 No.949713 >>949692 iluvit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 01:34:47 2013 No.950616 >>939105 perfect reaction image, bravo sir

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 01:42:17 2013 No.950628

>>939124

Well theres a difference between asking this question and getting the right answer see.

The greatest will not be the most fun to start if you want to get into the series.

The greatest is probably MM simply because of how fine the time mechanism works and how it effects the levels, it's stunning. Also really cool art, and masks are fun.

The best game to start playing is link to the past. That way you'll have a lot more fun seeing that world pop into a 3d world in ocarina of time (which was obviously inspired from the nes game)

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