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What /vr/ games is everyone playing on their handhelds? I'm playing D2 and Samurai Showdown 3 on my RP3 atm.

Also here's your RG 353M. Looks like it's the successor to the RG 351M with the chip from the 353 series obviously + some other small tweaks.

>> No.9348012

I've been playing a lot of Final Fantasy 1 and Chocobo no Fushigi na Dungeon on my WonderSwan Color.

>> No.9348045

>>9348003
Waiting on my 2ds arriving so I can CFM and play muh GBC titles, Miyoo Mini is still out of stock and nothing else from the Chinese interests me currently.

How do you guys cope with playing titles meant for a tv on these tiny handhelds? My eyes would bleed.

>Captcha: ASDM3N
Appropriate

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>>9348012
>WonderSwan Color
holy fucking BASED
I've really been wanting to get one of those + a flash cart for a while now, but I hate the current prices.

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>>9348084
I bought mine with a fucked up screen for about 2000 yen from Yahoo Auctions and swapped that old screen for an IPS. The battery life is now shit, but it's OK.
I've been willing to put my hands on a WonderSwan Flash Masta, but 100 dollars for a flashcard is too much for me at the moment (Brazil moment), so I'm purchasing < 10 USD games from Yahoo Auctions. I want to play Dicing Knight so bad, tho, and I need a Flash Masta for that, I'm not paying > 1k USD for that game.

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>>9348094
Actually that's a good point, buying a good handful of real games might be about the same cost as one flashcart anyways. I'll have to think about what I want to do eventually, but Dicing Knight is definitely one I want to play so idk. If the IPS screen battery life isn't like 2 - 3 hours per battery then I may have to do that too. I think I can live with at least 4 hours per battery if I get some rechargeables I can swap in and out.

>> No.9348129

>>9348003
How jank are these things really? Like how do they compare to a first party handheld in terms of quality and user experience?

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>>9348119
It is about 2 - 3 hours per battery, sorry...
But Flash Masta has a rechargeable USB-C battery, you should definitely take a look at that one. It is bulky but better than swapping AA batteries every 3 hours.
RetroOnyx also has one that is not as bulky as the Flash Masta one, and it lasts "only" 11 hours when compared to the 14 hours of the Flash Masta one.

>buying a good handful of real games might be about the same cost as one flashcart anyways.
Yeah, but good games like Guilty Gear Petit 2, Judgement Silversword, Rockman.EXE WS and Dicing Knight Period are not as easy to get as the other good games, so the Flash Masta is a must in my opinion.

>> No.9348136

>>9348129
Anbernic devices are probably the only retro handheld from China that feels like a premium devices, especially the metal versions. Too bad they are quite costly compared to other devices in this category.

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>>9348132
Here is the RetroOnyx battery.

>> No.9348142

>>9348132
Also, it is 11 hours and 14 hours with the IPS screen at minimum brightness.

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What do you think of my handheld concept?

>> No.9348269

>>9348175
anon, how the hell is a person supposed to be able to play a high paced game without misspressing any of these 6 buttons? I mean, it looks stupid tiny on that image.

>> No.9348285

>>9348269
I think you have misunderstood the scale of the device. This handheld is roughly Steam Deck sized. The buttons are full size similar to what would be on a Saturn gamepad.

>> No.9348298

>>9348285
there was a lack of banana for scale, but if that's the case, then well, that's better, but wouldn't the microSD slot, the 3.5mm audio out and the usb-c be better at the bottom left?
Or at least move the power and the volume button down there, it looks like the part on top is seriously cluttered.

>> No.9348304

>>9348175
This >>9348269
Also, this project would be expensive as shit. For example: Why the hell do you need a 2k screen for playing old games? Is this running Windows? If yes, it is going to be WAY more expensive.

>> No.9348312

>>9348175
I've been dying for a chinkheld with a Saturn d-pad and 6 face buttons, so yeah I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Technically there's the RP1, but the chip is too weak, d-pad is under analog, and I prefer a horizontal form-factor.

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Size comparison vs Anbernic 350m.

>> No.9348323

>>9348298
>MicroSD on bottom
I feel like it would bother players subconsciously worrying it would fall out, even if that very unlikely.
>3.5mm audio
From comments I have read here and elsewhere it seems the preference is for the headphone jack to be on the top of the device.
But bottom seems fine to me too. Perhaps even a 3.5mm port on both top and bottom?

>bottom left
Don't want to get in the way of the player's hand when using the bottom directional device.

>> No.9348328

>>9348129
Honestly, the RP3 and Odin Lite I bought felt more quality than any 1st party handheld I've ever had. The RP2+ on the other hand... I love the thing, but it's good old fashion chinese jank. It very much feels like it could've been a 1st party device from the late 90s or early 2000s, which I guess is charming in its own right.

>> No.9348331

>>9348304
>this project would be expensive as shit.
Yes, I expect $500-600 per unit.

>Why the hell do you need a 2k screen for playing old games?
Shaders. Yes, even on a screen this size. I've tested the scenario. The hardware power is there in this size now.
However, it -is- expensive.
Extra note: seems like 2048x1536 is the go-to resolution for 4:3 tablets so it may be the only source available for 8" 4:3 displays anyway.

>> No.9348339

>>9348304
>Is this running Windows? If yes, it is going to be WAY more expensive.
I would love for it to be x86-64 but tbqh ARM is more realistic.

>> No.9348342

>>9348175
>six face buttons
why
>2048x1536
why
>analog sticks uncomfortably low
why
>it's a fucking rectangle
why
>shoulder buttons completely flat
why
>steam deck sized
why

This thing would be a pain to use, even for a small amount of time.

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>>9348175
btw maybe I should have been more clear but the D-pad and analog sticks are swappable with each other. As in you can move the analog stick to the primary playing position. Like old Mad Catz Pro Circuit controllers.
>but anon what if the connection gets loose in the socket like those controllers did sometimes?
Well, we'll have to figure out a solution in prototyping. Maybe a screw that goes in through the back to lock it in place.

>> No.9348350

>>9348342
Six face buttons for Street Fighter and other six button fighting games. For the Saturn games that will run on this device.
2048x1536 for shaders.
You can swap the left stick to the primary position. The right stick is not really that much different than a typical PlayStation 1/2 stick placement.
I don't think players would want "legs" on this device like normal gamepad. It spoils the lines.
Shoulder triggers are included, I just can't draw them very well.
Steam Deck sized because that's the size I want it to be, and so do a lot of other people.

>This thing would be a pain to use
So a handheld, then?

>> No.9348354

>>9348175
>4:3 8" IPS LCD that would almost certainly have to be custom produced for this device
>Absurdly high PPI of 320, higher than Steam Deck, Macbook screen and nearly any monitor in use in the world outside of professional film studios
>For 4:3 content, an aspect ratio that fell out of wide favour more than 15 years ago, that was almost entirely SD in the first place and sees immense diminishing returns as you start to upscale it

Anon nothing that uses 4:3 actually benefits from a PPI this high. Before we get into the ergonomic nightmare this thing would be the screen is an instant killer, this thing would be so hideously expensive and so hilariously niche based on the panel alone it would never get off the ground, you probably wouldn't even be able to do a limited run.

>> No.9348357

>>9348354
>>4:3 8" IPS LCD that would almost certainly have to be custom produced for this device
There are tablets that use this size and resolution. There's already supply lines for it.
>>Absurdly high PPI of 320, higher than Steam Deck, Macbook screen and nearly any monitor in use in the world outside of professional film studios
Yes, it's cool innit.

>>For 4:3 content, an aspect ratio that fell out of wide favour more than 15 years ago, that was almost entirely SD in the first place and sees immense diminishing returns as you start to upscale it
I think you don't understand the technical side of this concept very well or why people would want it to be the way that it is.

>this thing would be so hideously expensive and so hilariously niche
So Steam Deck? So Aya Neo? So Odin? lmao it would just be another one on the pile.

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I made this comparison a while back.
Top unit is an HP Pro Tablet 608 G1 with Intel Atom x5-Z8500.
It uses an 8" 2048x1536 screen.
Controls are Ipega 9083S.

I bought both of these things but the tablet was DOA so I had to send it back and haven't seen another good deal on one to try it.
I still have the Ipega controller but it's kind of bad and I think I would try something else if I gave the idea another shot. Maybe one of those Gamesir controllers.

There's an Android tablet that uses the same screen that slightly higher performance. I forgot what it was called.

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From what I have read the tablet has good compatibility with Linux.

>> No.9348379

>>9348357
All of those you've listed are properly compatible with 16:9 content, including the steam deck.

All three are from established companies, the steam deck, the only one that can be considered anything approaching truly popular on the mass market is a loss leader product from a multimillion dollar financially stable company with deep cash reserves and a booming software ecosystem, that has enough money and pull to sway multiple other multimillion and multibillion dollar companies into working specifically on a bespoke product with custom components for them.

The other two are much more expensive and much less popular and also have far simpler features than the deck or your monstrosity. Crucially, all of them can play modern games properly as well as old stuff.

Why would anyone spend at least a thousand dollars on an obese tablet that can ONLY emulate old games and has sunk a huge amount of cost into emulating hardware features of long dead system's controllers when for far less money they can get more capable devices that work as well or better for the very same purpose?

Do you understand the concept of minimum production volumes?

But no you're right your homer simpson car autism brick handheld would be a great idea, at least 4 people would buy it.

>> No.9348393

>>9348379
just let him dream anon.

>> No.9348405

>>9348379
This thing wouldn't be as expensive to make as you seem to think it would be.

>> No.9348547

can anyone with a v90 and retroarch loaded on it tell me if the games that dont work on the cfw work with retroarch? mario golf advance for example? love v90 (wish i just got q90) but some of the games not playing sucks dick. miyoo mini looks good but way too small

>> No.9349328

>>9348003
Could i get recommendation for baby first handheld? Was looking to buy RG353v/353vs,, really like the form factor. Is it good?

>> No.9350475

>>9349328
I asked this recently and opinions were mixed.
Definitely less comfortable than horizontal handhelds but some people find it very uncomfortable even for short bursts, some find it OK for an hour or two. 353vs isn't worth the minor cost saving, if you're getting one get the 353v or the 351v for the better buttons and lower price.
351p or 353p seem to be the default reccomendations
Decide what you're actually going to play first then decide based on that. 351p for example has the perfect aspect ratio for GBA which may matter to you if you want to play lots of GBA.

I personally just bought a NIB 2ds XL off of ebay as its faster to get than any Chinese device and the build quality and software library is great, and the DS and 3DS library is awesome.

Taking a hit on PSX and N64 emulation not really being possible with good quality but backwards compatibility with Nintendo's entire handheld library is massive for me and a DS system is really the only way to play DS and 3DS games properly.

I also bought a regular 2ds from some wine mom for £35 because I was curious if it was comfy or not and it was mint for the price and yeah these things are really good and really easy to root, playing some Fire Emblem GBA and Etrian Odyssey at the minute.

>> No.9350536

>>9349328
I've been seeing a lot of reports of units not turning on, not charging, faulty ports, etc. If you insist on buying one I'd suggest going through Aliexpress instead of Anbernic directly since they're customer support is fucking dogshit.

>> No.9350551

I just want to replay some of my favorite NES/SNES classics (mostly RPGs/fantasy adventure) but I have choice paralysis/late onset ADD, I play a game for like 5 minutes and then I remember I have literally infinite other titles at my fingertips so I fire up something else to play, I need to just stick with one thing until I beat it.

>> No.9350589

>>9350551
You have a software rather than hardware problem

Just use your laptop or something, if you do really need a handheld just buy something you can afford that's been on the market for a while and that has a good returns policy.

>> No.9350623

>>9350475
351p looks good and price is also nice. Is it good for ps1 games?

>> No.9350689

>>9350623
It can run them but its got a 3:2 rather than 4:3 screen, if you're deadset on playing LOTS of PS1 might be better with something like the 353p or 351v which has a 4:3 screen

PSX will work on 351p though if its more of an ocassional thing, I own none of these consoles, I looked at them all and bought a DS instead

>> No.9350756

>>9350551
Stop downloading full ROM sets.
Download your games one at a time.
Read the booklets and other materials that would have come with the game as if you had just bought it.
Read a few magazine reviews and learn a few pro tips to help you get further into the game and become invested in it.

>> No.9351607

>>9348364
Lel, i'm using that same top setup but i'm using the 9083c which is the fixed model and the s8 ultra (but in portrait) and the whole thing is a dream for playing all things up to aome switch games, retro stuff-wise i love playing simpsons hit and run on this thing

>> No.9351610

>>9351607
>>9348364
>Lel, i'm using that same top setup but i'm using the 9083c which is the fixed model and the s8 ultra (but in portrait) and the whole thing is a dream for playing all things up to aome switch games, retro stuff-wise i love playing simpsons hit and run on this thing
I hate jannies deleting my shit

>> No.9351613

>>9351607
What was fixed on the C version? Is the d-pad any better?

>> No.9351630

>>9348003
I have an rg351mp and I really wish it could handle PS1 games at 480p. Also Dreamcast, but I knew going in it wouldn't. Then it would be perfect.

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I have an RG351MP, really like it but GBA games look like shit on it no matter which way you slice it. What's the recommended handheld for GBA that avoids OpenDingux? Because I had a RG280M before this and build was perfect, but dealing with OD killed it for me

>> No.9351732

>>9351719
>What's the recommended handheld for GBA
Anbernic rg351p because it has the 3:2 aspect ratio of a real GBA. Meaning games can use a clean 2x integer scale.

>> No.9351742

>>9351719
an AGS-101

>> No.9351760

>>9351719
>but GBA games look like shit on it no matter which way you slice it.
Use the sharp bilinear 2x shader. Use it for everything that doesn't scale perfectly.

>> No.9351808

>>9351760
Well shit, this looks really nice for non-integer, don't even notice any weird scrolling shit. Thanks, anon. Might still get a GBA-friendly handheld but this will hold me over for now

>> No.9351852

>>9351808
Yeah, it's magic. I wish more people knew about it and that the amberelec team would set that up by default.

>> No.9352186

>>9350756
Great tips here.

>> No.9352838

just got my rg353v, the device does look amazing but coming from miyoo's onion os the software is SEVERELY lacking, I tried one custom OS so far and I wasn't amused, I can't even put my finger on why exactly.
I still haven't played a single game.

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>does everything better in your path
why do people buy so many of these chinkoid handhelds? they're just liquidated phone parts anyway.

>> No.9352929

>>9352848
Dedicated handheld with microsd slot and headphone jack is nice.

I was looking around for a good phone controller with headphone and USB pass through and you aren't really spending any less money, obviously the phone is more powerful though.

Also muh nostalgia

>> No.9352931

>>9352838
arkos got recent update for 353v/353vs. Tyr it.

>> No.9352934

>>9352929
>Dedicated handheld with microsd slot and headphone jack is nice.
yeah but outdated SoC is not. if you bought one of these 3 years ago, it's completely obsolete now. if you bought one now, it'll be obsolete in a years time, the hardware for these things just isn't there yet to not make you fucking regret your purchase. with all the money you've spent, you could've gotten a top of the line phone that actually DOES play everything.

i'll agree with the controller thing, if and only if your criteria are the way you listed. most people aren't looking for all that.

>> No.9352965

>>9352934
>Still plays /vr/ games
>Obsolete
My GBC from 1998 still plays games and is still fun, just because newer models come out doesn't meant these consoles aren't still playable and fun. Power is only useful if you have an actual use case for it, you don't need a fast snapdragon processor or 120hz screen to play SNES and Ps1

Mobile phones are obsolescent at launch, and you are going to need to replace them far more often than a games console because of planned obsolescence enforced via lack of software support. If I had to restart using my phone from 2013 now almost none of the stuff I use for daily life would work, whereas my consoles from the time all work just as well as they did when I bought them. Even as a romfaggot that ran lineage and now graphene os on my phone for enhanced longevity and performance the lifespan of a phone is abysmal compared to almost any other piece of tech I can think of

Also most of these consoles are between $50-150, nowhere near top of the line phone prices. I would also make the point that getting a phone that's better as a content consumption device often means it being way worse an actual phone and digital assistant, but I suppose that will differ by use case.

I don't understand people that don't want to use headphones, you just play with the speaker on when you're not in private? You're subjecting the guy on the train to bingbing Wahoos on your way to work?

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I want to get a POW*explodes in ur hands*kiddy A20 because I'm desperate for a handheld with 6 facebuttons, but it's fucking expensive, only has a mono speaker, has a shit 3000mAh battery, and doesn't have enough juice for like 30% of Saturn emulation.

>> No.9353597

>>9352838
I picked up the RG353P earlier this week and JelOS seems alright to me, no worse than Amberelec other than no built in borders.

>> No.9353603

>>9353597
>JelOS
did they fix the boot issue? i had jelos on my rg552 but it would boot into emulation station only every 15th attempt or so, so i had to switch to amberelec which boots every single time

>> No.9353686

>>9348315
>8"
just use ipad mini screen at that point

>> No.9353732

>>9352934
The thing is though, the SOCs are now at an acceptable point to emulate most retro systems that this board would care about with Cortex-A76 and Cortex-A55 cores in SOCs like the RK3588. The main barriers now is technically form factor, cooling, pricing and software where the last part is the real main issue for ARM in general. If you buy a top end SOC now, it won't stop doing what it can do at present 4-5 years later. Sure, you can probably get something very efficient and more optimized down the line but what is available is more than sufficient for the higher end needs of people buying them.

>> No.9353984

>>9353686
I have considered the Ipad Mini since it is probably going to be possible to install a version of Linux on it in the near future
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/06/developers-get-linux-up-and-running-on-old-ipad-air-2-hardware/

>> No.9353991

>>9352965
>Mobile phones are obsolescent at launch, and you are going to need to replace them far more often than a games console because of planned obsolescence enforced via lack of software support.
anon you're acting like this point isn't also strongly related to these handhelds. most of them aren't even running the latest android because they fucking can't. there's already a lack of software support built in to most of these devices.
>>9353732
i'd agree, but it seems to me that any SoC you are getting with these handhelds even when they're "updated" are still 2-3 years behind what we currently have available in smartphones. given you can get a used s21 right now for somewhere under 300, that can play dreamcast, ps2, and gamecube stuff right now pretty much flawlessly, it makes no sense to me to just keep buying these things every 6 months when they get refreshed. only really seems like the more expensive 400-600 things like odin pro and the like are capable of doing what my phone already can. that's why i'm a little annoyed at the idea of wasting so much cash. it's whatever though. if you just think they're neat that's cool. speaking of form factor, some of these newer devices coming out DO actually look neat. i just think the quality of the internals isn't there.
>>9353972
>>9353976
talk like a normal person and stop using buzzwords. you sound like a terminally online faggot. just state a point and stop acting like some fucking secret club warrior. i also have no fucking idea who you're talking about. i haven't been on this board in like 4 months

>> No.9354003

>>9353991
okay boomer.

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>>9351613
>What was fixed on the C version? Is the d-pad any better?
The dpad and abxy are now membranes
Battery went from 450mAh to 600mAh
Analog sticks are now sleek and (maybe) don't drift after a year (i felt them better)
Bluetooth module went from a high consumption 4.0 protocol to a low consumption 5.0 one
The former statement affected performance in two ways, one, battery now last at least 3 weeks of maybe 1 hour of gaming compared to almost a week with the 9083 and 2 weeks with the 9083s; and two, the pairing is now instantanious when connecting to any device and when switching modes; compared to around 10-13 seconds of the former versions
Graphics are cooler imo and are hydro dipped this time, last time the "red and blue" version a friend had felt cheap af after 1 month, i've had mine for 1 year no problem
The normal version felt cheaper on the hand and now it feels more premium (a bit heavier? Maybe the bigger battery?)
Also, this last one is a bit personal i guess but the buttons being membranes help me to put more hours into gaming as i can now play when the wife is watching something on tv as the buttons are dead silent now; i wish the triggers were analog but this is pretty much a god controlller as is, also it can hold almost any device on the clamp, my tab s8 ultra BARELY fits on landscape mode so i always use it on portrait orientation, but given it's the biggest device i've seen i think it will hold everything, but on the other hand smaller phones (like my xperia mini pro, measuring 3 inches tall) need spacers to fit, i just add a piece of acrylic on one side and it fits pretty sturdy
Thanks for reading my blog review

>> No.9354175

Just use your phone.

>> No.9354203

>>9354005
>you will never be a chinese girl smoking meth and farming simps on 3 dozen phones for a week straight

>> No.9354243

>>9354203
feels really bad man.

>> No.9354268

>>9352848
zoomers have absolutely no standards do they

>> No.9354557

>>9352838
have you bought from Ali? Which seller did you use?

>> No.9354659

>>9348175
Move the audio out to the bottom, move the left speaker (above the D-Pad) close to the screen to make it the same distance from the screen as the speaker on the right, make the trigger buttons actual trigger buttons, and make sure the buttons and such not overly large and I would buy it

>> No.9354746

>>9348003
I wanted to get an Anbernic but in the end the fact you can't easily swap the battery killed it for me. I settled for a Powkiddy V90 which is way cheaper, the screen is better protected, only needs a single SD card, has custom firmware and most importantly the Nokia battery can be changed without issue.

Does anybody else have this 30 USD handheld? Apparently some people managed to play a few neat emulators with it, overall squeezing its potential.

>> No.9354980

>>9353603
They must have fixed it because I haven't had any problems booting into emulation station, but to be honest I wasn't even aware there was a boot problem to begin with.

>> No.9354985

>>9354746
How is the screen?
I was looking at one but I heard there's a lot of screen tearing.

>> No.9354989

>most of them aren't even running the latest android because they fucking can't. there's already a lack of software support built in to most of these devices.
Why even bother using Android in the first place when these devices have such a limited use case? Pretty much all of these handhelds have minimal online features outside of scraping game info and rarely online multiplayer so something like an RG351V would probably have a much longer life compared to a Retroid Pocket 3 because of it's vidya focused and almost bloatless Linux installs. Linux OS's tend to be a way better option if all you want to do is play videogames and don't need all the bloat Android introduces.

>> No.9354996

>>9354989
some android emulators have batter performance. Plus its entirely optional. Just use android when game is running better on it.

>> No.9355002

>>9354989
>>9354996
Only real reason to use Android I can think of is Drastic for DS emulation or CitraMMJ for 3ds

But DS or 3ds on a non DS handheld is always crap, may as well get a cheap 2ds or something if you want to play those games specifically, or just use a computer so you can use the mouse.

>> No.9355039

Oof
https://youtu.be/Uh66DTXYCP8

Perhaps even ouchy

>> No.9355045

>>9354985
The IPS screen is ridiculously good for the price, although I don't remember exactly which phone used it back in the day. The screen tearing on the other hand is very minimal and for some reason some games aren't even affected at all. I do think you need a bit of luck though, especially since some units appear to be more defective than others. Also, beware of scalpers. The price range of a V90 is anything between 30 to 40 USD. Any other reseller that offers it at a lower or higher price is simply sketchy and not worth it. I would suggest an AliExpress price tracker so you can find the better deal out there. Of course, don't even bother with ads coming from low rated sellers, with low number of orders and reviews. Sorry for being so wordy about this but I would like to help in any way I can.

>> No.9355270

>>9354268
>higher quality screen
>higher quality components
>better performance
>better battery life
the only thing it doesn't have is a built in controller. really easily remedied with an xbox controller or telescopic usb c controller. what's not to like?

>> No.9355424

>>9355270
>better battery life
That's debatable, especially if your emulating on your personal phone and not a dedicated device. That's personally why I don't emulate on my phone, I want a dedicated device for games so I don't run down the battery on my phone because I use it for work, not to mention clipping a controller to a phone isn't very pocket friendly.

>> No.9355465

>>9355424
you keep both your phone and a whole other device in your pants pockets, anon?

>> No.9355689

>>9353330
It's only a little over 100 usd. Bro...

>> No.9355721

>>9355689
it's 100 bucks + the price of reconstructive surgery needed after it blows up in your face

>> No.9355831
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>>9348003
Damn im excited. Got a 351m less than six months ago and love it. Couldnt ask for a better gba machine. Now ima buy this beast for ps1,n64 and SMW hacks.

>> No.9356096
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>Insane library from the 3ds + DS
>Backwards compatible all the way to the DMG
>Decent if somewhat limited selection of emulators
>Possibly the best hacking community of any console right now, tons of homebrew, cracking software, utilities, etc.
>Entire software library is dumped and available
>Multiple on device stores available to download roms and other stuff directly to the console itself
>Super comfortable, good feeling controls
>Meh as fuck 400*240 screen only about as sharp as a 1080p 24" monitor

Nintendo are incapable of making an unqualified good product, there is always some weird caveat or qualification, but this is probably as close as they'll ever get.

You should get one of these if you don't have one, they're super cheap now, i got a nib one for £100 and am not going to be handing Nintendo a penny for anything. took about 15 minutes to flash custom firmware and install the community stuff.

Glad I bought this instead of some Chinese thing, might pick one up at some point for PS1 on the go though

>> No.9356097

>>9356096
god that looks like shit

>> No.9356098

so tired of 3DSharts

>> No.9356102

>>9356096
horrible screens, horrible analog sticks, horrible dpad placement, horrible speakers, and horrible battery life

>> No.9356107

>>9356097
>>9356098
>>9356102
That didn't take long lol

>> No.9356168

>>9356107
Most of your points are irrelevant to /vr/. The 3DS plays 3DS games, wow amazing. For retro games it's a piece of shit that struggles to run even snes and gba games well, and runs barely anything at all in the case of the non "new" versions

>> No.9356171

>>9356168
correction: it runs gba games very well, they just look like ass if you don't use native res mode which is tiny af
so yeah it's shit

>> No.9356175

>>9356171
Performance is generally fine, audio is terrible, and like you said they look like ass. The 3ds family has to have some of the worst screens ever put in a handheld since they invented backlights

>> No.9356205

>>9355593
>not knowing about ashens

>> No.9356286

>>9356096
I'd love my 3DS more but after playing a Vita and a tRG353P I just can't go back to the 2DS XL screen, it's blurry as FUCK.
Also the console itself feels super flimsy and it has some issues with emulation like PS1, N64 and Saturn.

The Vita would be my go to handheld but it struggles with SNES, GBA and Saturn too. In the end I ended up settling with the RG353p, it's the best middle point between the other two. I kinda miss PSP a little and I hate having to jump between different consoles but for 3DS and PSP I have no choice dammit.

>> No.9356332

>>9356286
I am thinking about selling it purely because of the screen desu, I've been using it for a few days but I honestly prefer playing most of the 3ds library on my laptop Is the 353p actually good? It was the main thing I was looking at, but I was tempted by the 3ds as I'd never owned one before.

>>9356102
I like the controls, they feel fine
The screen is absolute shit though

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>> No.9356467

>>9356375
What's wrong with Pandora?

>> No.9356835

Didn't want to invest heavily into game emulation handhelds yet so I got one of those free android phones from my carrier. I have a controller I can connect to with bt and 3d printed a phone stand, is there any good guide for setting it up to be an emulation device?

>> No.9356996
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>>9356467
They were mad that they bought one of these instead.
That's all.

>> No.9357028

>>9356096
the modded 3ds is god-tier
however as a standalone emulation setup i would advise caution

doesn't support everything although the library is pretty good with cia files

having every game on the homescreen is fun too


for hardcore 3D titles and playstation stuff i usually use my android tab and a bluetooth controller

>> No.9357031

i will never understand these threads
even a $75 amazon fire tablet can run saturn, n64, dreamcast, ps1, (even some ps2) + all older systems from microSD card

your controller breaks? needs a different shape? change to a preferred one

my tablet is magnet-mounted to my car dash
it also doubles as mp3 playback over bt
comfy

outperforms everything in this thread
maybe aside from (3)ds as you kinda need original hardware to properly simulate games that require touching the bottom screen

but in theory i COULD, on impulse at any time anywhere in less than 90 seconds


none of the devices in this thread offer the power i would want out of a handheld
steam deck? id rather bring a gaming laptop at that point

>> No.9357032

>>9357031
even if i was a millionaire with infinite money i STILL would choose nothing in this thread

>> No.9357034

Anyone know if the new OOT source port got ported to the 351MP yet? I know mario 64 has a source port on there and it was great playing it 60fps on a handheld, I wanna do the same with OOT.

>> No.9357035

>>9357032
except this obv >>9354005

>> No.9357062

Just spent an hour on miyoo mini getting hella deep into Pokemon pinball r/s. Mario Golf advance is fun too.

>> No.9357096

>>9357031
>i will never understand these threads
you sound low iq so i'm not surprised

>> No.9357146

>>9357031
fire tablets are bloated pieces of shit that are constantly checking/downloading updates for a hundred apps you don't use and can't remove in addition to constantly gathering and uploading data on everything you do. pretty much every single chanheld is a vastly better experience.

>> No.9357246

>>9357096
>buy $100+ disposable android
>worse performance than a used tablet
>shitty screen
>cant do non-gaymen apps
>once the sticks/buttons wear out its trash


whos low iq?
consoooom!!

>> No.9357248

>>9357146
easily "jailbroken" debloated
other launchers exist
i use nova

>> No.9357282
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>>9356286
>The Vita would be my go to handheld but it struggles with SNES, GBA
get the standalone emulators instead of using Retroarch

>Saturn
Yeah that's kinda tough

>> No.9357349

>>9357282
Standalone mGBA struggles to handle a lot of games on Vita.
And Yoshi's Island has frequent drops in every SNES option.

>> No.9357375

>>9357349
are you telling vita is no better than psp then, because snes has same exact issues on psp with unplayable yoshi's island

>> No.9357381

>>9357375
From an emulation standpoint, yes.
Most of the emulators for Vita are just straight up ports of PSP versions.

>> No.9357449

>>9355465
Work supplied cargo pants.

>> No.9357465

>>9357031
Maximum emulation performance isn't really the point of these handhelds, if you just want to completely max out emulation, why you even bother getting anything running Android? At that point you might as well just build an emulator box so you can emulate fucking everything plus play some couch friendly PC games while you're at it.

>> No.9357515

>>9357282
>get the standalone emulators instead of using Retroarch
Did they improve? Last time I checked pSNES and mGBA were still shit without overclocking.

>> No.9357524

>>9357416
imagine being this much of a twitter user

>> No.9357527

Recently bought a r351p having a lot of fun so far any of y'all have reccomendations for decent pico8 games?

>> No.9357718

>>9357031
Don't game and drive, anon.

>> No.9357863

>>9357031
it's about comfort and being a nerd not power

>> No.9358072

>>9357449
hopefully the devices aren't at risk of being damaged while you have them in there for whatever reason.

>> No.9358395

still waiting for my analog pocket to arrive and debating whether to just resell it or keep it

>> No.9359108

>>9348364
I use a similar setup, iPega 9023 (I think?) and a Lenovo 8" tablet with 1920x1200 screen. Earlier generation of Atom SoC so it shits itself with newer stuff but I've played some Dreamcast on it.

>> No.9359779

>>9354557
no I preordered from the official site

>> No.9359854

>>9357248
bullshit. absolute fucking bullshit. there is NOTHING you can do to keep amazon from re-enabling everything and installing all their shit back your device.

why do you come here to lie like a faggot?

>> No.9359974

>>9358395
Resell it, don't even open the box

>> No.9359989

>>9358395
resell
get a mister
buy a chink handheld like a rg351
you come out ahead

>> No.9360006

>>9359854
>>9357248
>>9357146
>>>/g/

>> No.9360080

>>9356375
Kino. Would visit those forums and lurk nonstop when I had my gp2x

>> No.9360357

>>9360006
very disingenuous post


is there a single toaster device in here that can run ps2? oh, no?

thats fucking right
baby toys thread

>> No.9360364

>>9360357
>is there a single toaster device in here that can run ps2? oh, no?
The Deck and Odin were mentioned so yes. :))

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Heh

>> No.9360986

Is the RG280v any good?

Just want to play GBA, GBC and Maybe some Genesis but I've never really played SEGA so don't think I'd be doing much on there

Miyoo Mini is still sold out.

>> No.9361000

>>9360364
steam deck isnt a toaster device??
odin isnt a toaster device?

i think these threads are just shills fighting with eachother
im sorry but 2 hours of battery life is not gonna do it for me especially with that small screen
literally smaller than a fire 7"

>> No.9361002

>>9360963
vita is great but retarded take
why would i use a vita to emulate ds or 3ds
why would i want all my buttons in fucky\wrong spots?

>>9357718
>>9357863
i let my passengers play dreamcast while i run errands
im parked if im the one playing kek

>> No.9361003

>>9360948
still better than most of the devices listed in the thread

hell might even have custom rom support

>> No.9361056

>>9361003
>hell might even have custom rom support
it actually does, but i can't be bothered to install cyanogen or the few available for it

>> No.9361108

>>9360963
idk i own the oled vita and the screen fucking pisses me off i keep needing to wipe it, and dreamcast emulation on the vita just isnt there yet. im tempted to buy the rp3 so it can do all my emulation and pokemmo gayming

>> No.9361231

>>9360963
holy based!

>>9361108
The RP3 is kino, but fucking around with some settings on andr*id will require you to touch the screen sometimes unless you're willing to wait 3 seconds to enable the virtual mouse (which I personally am, fuck touchscreens).

>> No.9361278

>>9361231
>RP3
If you have one how does DS emulation work out on it?

I'm very interested in it but if if I'm paying for a touch screen I'd want something that can properly do DS

>> No.9361285

>>9361278
I haven't tried it but I'm sure it's fine. I mostly just play Sega platforms and Neo-Geo on it with a bit of PS1 and PSP.

>> No.9361513

>>9353991
The reason why they are outdated is because buying Snapdragon, Dimensity or Exynos which are in smartphones means you have to buy in smartphone quantities to get them. For handheld makers, they can't do that so they flock to the smaller ARM SOC players that supply SBCs and other embedded products which use outdated ARM IP to get their main chips. By the time you can buy a phone at the prices handhelds are going for at the moment, the SOC makers the handheld manufacturers use are smart enough to use the "newest" 2-3 years behind the cutting edge tech to outdo what you can get in an old phone. That way, the choice presented becomes if you want to use an older used device/electronics you have to jerry rig or harvest from older phones somehow from a shady Chinese used electronics scrapper dealer or get something from the factory made which isn't cutting edge which is an easy choice.
The issue with internals is valid but then that really becomes a matter or BOM used to make the product and what you are expecting. You can't expect great handheld quality for anything in the $50-150 USD range most of these handhelds are being sold for. You have to look at the premium stuff that is "overpriced" in your view with that pricetag of $300+ to get what you want with premium materials. Same with every other piece of electronics from phones to TVs to laptops.

>> No.9361552

>>9361513
I get what you're saying, but all it's telling me is that the device i already have, and will likely always have a more up to date version of, will always be better to use for emulation than these handhelds, which will always be 2-3 years behind. I get the idea that an all in one product looks cooler and whatnot, but they lose their appeal because they're already so outdated.

I think this won't be much of a problem in another year or two's time, when things like the snapdragon 888, 8 gen 1 SoC's, or their equivalents are easier to source for companies like this. We'll eventually see an affordable retroid type device that can run gamecube/ps2/dreamcast stuff with minimal issues. To me, only then will they really be worth it as a dedicated device.

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>>9361552
The unpleasant truth is that a lot of people are fools and retarded and convenience wins over anything else for them to the point that they are willing to pay huge premiums to get that over jerryrigging a good deal phone with a Kishi and the consumer mindset also drives people to waste their money.
Current Snapdragons from the last few years since the 865 are relative mobile housefires where the performance while good comes at too high of a price in power usage and most people don't need that kind of computational power. You really only need to do everything up to 6th generation really well along with PSP/DS and doing enough of the 7th generation to have a "good enough" device. I argue that getting to the sweet spot of "good enough" mobile chip performance is already technically here with Cortex A76 SOCs to get that sort of performance target along with general use case quickness which you can find in the Logi cloud handheld released recently. The problem is really the other factors I have mentioned which are bigger barriers and in the case of the Logi handheld, it's the price where it should be priced at max $250. When you have enough performance to equal to Intel's 6000-7000 processors which surpass desktop Core 2000/3000 series where desktop and laptop computing performance became good enough for most people's computational tasks as seen with what ARM Cortex can do, I would argue that is where the sweet spot of good enough is in mobile as well and emulation.

>> No.9361658

>>9361627
i agree 100%. it'll be interesting to see where it all goes from here.

>> No.9361670

What really confuses me is why anyone would want to play PS2 or Gamecube on a 5-7inch screen instead of on a monitor or TV.

>> No.9361752

>>9361670
Because they're zoomers who care more about graphical fidelity and power wanking then fun factor. You're far better off having an emu box set up for anything above Dreamcast.

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>>9351719
I sperg'd on this for a long time because I was mad that the RG351MP -- a supposedly superior machine -- did not have a GBA setting that looked as good as bicubic + grid 2x on the RG350M. I finally found two options:

Filter: Grid 2X
Shader: Bandlimit Pixel (go to shader settings and turn it down real low, like 0.1)

Filter: Grid 2X
Shader: Bicubic (Same thing, go to shader settings and turn it way down)

I did this side by side with my RG350M and the first option looks identical to the RG350M with bicubic / grid 2x. If you like the LCD look, this is the way.

If you don't like the LCD look, use bilinear 2x prescale like anon said.

Don't forget that the default GBA emulator on Amber Elec can't run all GBA full speed (FF6 intro is a good way to test) so use gbSP instead.

>> No.9361828

>>9361670
Because resolution and screen size are not the same thing and independent of each other. Having at max 720p/1080i in the 7th generation of consoles, any mid-end handheld can easily display that at native resolution, it's not a problem at all and probably is better as the smaller size minimizes the faults of early 3D games alongside the enhancements you can apply to them.

>> No.9362017

>>9361828
I know resolution and screen size are independent of each other you meme of a human being.

Why do you want to play games intended to be viewed on a tv on a tiny screen between your hands? Its going to be a shit experience. Imagine trying to play Armored core or Ace Combat or anything visually complex on a tiny ass screen

>> No.9362023

>>9362017
k then don't play it.

>> No.9362854

>>9360357
i was referring to your annoying fucking bitching and arguing not the devices themselves

>> No.9363902
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Just put together my custom DMG. It's redundant with my GBA, but I have a lot of nostalgia for the form factor of the original Game Boy. Also I really liked the shell when I saw it online and decided that now was the time. Annoyed that in the one second it took me to drop the screen lens into place two pieces of dust stuck to the lens, but I don't notice it unless I focus on it.

Going to play some Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land.

>> No.9364029

>>9363902
looks great anon!

>> No.9364069

I love the lack of steam deck in here. What a retarded device from Valve. It is way too big to go anywhere with and the people who bought them will be playing it in front of their capable PC 99% of the time. Any one with a social life would never carry that behemoth into public, you would like like a fucking idiot. Sales on it are dismal as well. I preordered late until I saw the actual size of the thing. My preorder was moved from Q4 2022 to Q3 2022, assuming others mass canceling as well. Valve just can't get shit right anymore.

>> No.9364083

>>9364069
didn't ask.

>> No.9364129

>>9363902
Dude that looks really good, have fun playing Mario.

>> No.9364136

>>9363902
Looks like shit and the gayboy sucks ass. All in all, fuck you.

>> No.9364254

>>9363902
i absolutely hate it but good for you

>> No.9364638

>>9361285
Is the Dreamcast emulation good? I've seen some reviewers try Crazy Taxi and it looked good enough but I wonder if it can handle heavier games like Skies of Arcadia or Grandia 2

>> No.9364669

>>9364638
I haven't tried Grandia 2 on it yet, but Skies runs perfectly without frameskip, and even has enough overhead to fast-forward at 2x or not far from it depending on what's on screen. This is how most Dreamcast games on the thing, sometimes you'll have to bounce between Flycast and Redream to see which runs better so you can turn off frameskip. Carrier is one that runs fullspeed without frameskip in Redream but not Flycast, and MvC2 is the opposite from what I understand (I haven't tested that one).

It's good enough to play everything at fullspeed WITH frameskip enabled, at the very least. Something more demanding like Crazy Taxi 2, without frameskip disabled, is often in the 40s. With it on, it plays fullspeed and is perfectly playable, but I can easily tell it's not as smooth as it could be and it triggers my autism.

So basically, yes. It's not 100% perfect for DC since sometimes you might need frameskip, but it's close enough considering everything else I've played so far didn't need frameskip, and ecelebs don't even seem to notice the frameskip. Saturn emulation is the one that really gives me problems.

>> No.9364673

>>9364669
*most Dreamcast games are on

>> No.9365023

rg353p got an official update a couple of weeks ago. Shredder's Revenge and Stardew Valley plus a bunch of other ports now work.

https://youtu.be/uNg-AL81-bc

and I believe there is ArkOS for it now too. not sure what I should use. ArkOS, jelOS, or the official

>> No.9365427

>>9365023
I assume if it runs on 353p it will run on 353v?

>> No.9365498

>>9365427
thats what I hear

oh and I forgot one. TheRA

>> No.9366239

>>9366237
I hope it's still light like the RG503 despite being kinda fat.

>> No.9366254

>>9366231
what are the specs tho

>> No.9366260

>>9366254
The same chip as the Powkiddy x18s.

>> No.9366268

>>9348003
>metal shit
Just give me a true successor to the RG351P
The 353P doesn't count, fuck that shape.

>> No.9366316

>>9366268
Based and true on both points

>> No.9366786

>>9366268
wait for 355, mb they will make look less retarded.

>> No.9366791

>>9366786
>m
bro

>> No.9366797

Retroid Pocket 3 or 351v or 353p or 351p?

Mostly want to play GBA but I feel like if I'm spending £90 on a 351p I may as well go up a bit and get something more powerful

Or should I just cheap out and get the V90?

>> No.9366909

>>9366268
>fuck comfort

>> No.9366951

>>9366797
I got the RP3 and think it is absolutely fucking awesome, so I'd tell you to get that, but I guess the 351p is probably fine if you really only plan to play GBA.

>> No.9367230

>>9366951
It says pre-order on their website, how long did it take for yours to turn up?

>> No.9367261

>>9367230
I ordered mine near the end of August just after launch when the demand was obviously a lot higher, and it was almost exactly 1 month iirc.

>> No.9367325

>>9366951
>>9367261
Eh fuck it I'm just getting the V90, I've never owned one of these things no point spending big money for something I'll probably use for two trips on a plane then never touch again

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Playing Metroid Fusion on my steam deck. Finished metroid zero mission on it not long ago.

>> No.9367767

I will not buy any of this. It's all overpriced because guys my age are desperate for nostalgia. I will emulate on PC.

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>>9366268
>The 353P doesn't count, fuck that shape.
>the most comfortable Anbernic device created to date
>fuck that shape

>> No.9367804

are there any of these that are pocket sized and have an oled screen?

>> No.9368120

>>9367804
Vita

>> No.9369076

>>9367804
OG Vita or RG503 depending on the size of your pockets. Both are a bit bigger than I'd want for something like that, but they're the closest you're going to get.

>> No.9369250

I know it's not exactly retro, but you can play Sonic Mania on the Anbernic family of devices now through Portmaster.
The game is like 70% recycled level layouts anyway.

It played flawlessly on my RG353P, no performance issues in the bonus or special stages.
Distributed build does not have the Encore DLC

>> No.9369264

>>9369250
cool, i was actually hoping someone would port it

>> No.9369605

>>9369250
>It played flawlessly on my RG353P
how is dreamcast performance on 353? Mainly skies of arcadia and grandia?

>> No.9369626

>>9369605
anonymous, you didn't get the RP3? I'm feeling betrayed...

>> No.9369642

>>9369626
>RP3
cant get it delivered into my third world shithole.

>> No.9369647

>>9369642
Ahh, that sucks m8. It may also be worthwhile to check out X18s by Powkiddy. I don't have one, but the chip in that is a bit stronger than the one in the RP3, which in turn is a bit stronger than the one in the 353 series. I don't know the specifics of how Skies and Grandia 2 run on the 353s though, so maybe someone else can answer.

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>>9369647
Or maybe not, the only person who has a unit of the new x18s shows the d-pad getting stuck.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PGWBzXkBivU

>> No.9369727

>>9369647
>X18s
i watched retro game review, and its pretty impressive. No slowdown on dreamcast/saturn and even psp. Would you recommend it, anon?

>> No.9369735

>>9369727
Well because of >>9369694 I really don't know. I'd probably wait to see retro game corps impression of this new one which should be up any day now. Hopefully that guy in the video just got a lemon. The chip is definitely really nice, though.

>> No.9369759

>>9369735
shit, I looked and the only custom firmware is locked behind some shitty patreon. That sucks.

>> No.9370262

>>9369250
The 2gb of ram that the RG353P/V have is a god send for ports, but isn't Sonic Mania locked to 16:9?

>> No.9370267

>>9370262
>but isn't Sonic Mania locked to 16:9?
No. 4:3 was a hidden feature in the original and the decomp made it easier.

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>>9370267
Exquisite news, gonna download right now.

>> No.9370376

>>9369250
Thanks for the heads-up.
I've been checking out the various homebrew ports of that game and they all seem to be plagued by slow SD card reads. On an rg351mp it loads fast and there are no pauses when the music changes.

>> No.9370381

>>9348003
I was given a DS Lite today, seems to work fine but kinda beat up, D-pad is worn, I'm going to replace the membranes. Which flash cart to get? Google isn't giving me straight answers

>> No.9370604

>>9370381
R4 SDHC for DS stuff I think, but you could check /hbg/ on /vg/, they might have a better recommendation.
EZ Flash Omega Definitive Edition is the best option for GBA stuff, not sure what cheaper stuff is good.
Pretty much any flash cart that actually works should be compatible with a DS Lite from what I remember though, it's the DSi and 3DS you have to worry about.

>> No.9370624

Looking for a landscape handheld capable of save states and NES/GB emulation, preferably as cheap as possible. Any recommendations?

>> No.9370626

When is ship of harkonen gonna get ported to these devices?

>> No.9370635

>>9370624
>NES/GB
That's about as low as it goes. I'd be surprised if there was anything that couldn't handle that.

>> No.9370640

>>9370635
Chinkshit X00 in 1 handhelds don't normally support save states, or saving at all. They also seem to be the majority of what shows up when searching for cheap retros.

>> No.9370645

>>9370604
Thanks anon

>> No.9370646

>>9370640
You shouldn't buy anything that doesn't let you install your own games.

>> No.9371342

>>9367508
absolutely disgusting

>> No.9371347

i will never understand these threads
when you are ACTUALLY PLAYING the games
on ACTUAL HARDWARE vs whatever cheeseball device you pretended to buy

the difference is night\day
gameboy micro is the only proper way to enjoy gba

it looks like fucking shit on your toaster device

>> No.9371349

>>9371347
obv sp is acceptable as well
but i find the form-factor uncomfortable
and the dpad\buttons are not the best
also have several bad memories associated with the handheld so i never repurchased
i was underage and under investigation\being sued by ambulance chasers

>> No.9371527

>>9371347
>it looks like fucking shit on your toaster device
what exactly makes it look like shit? gba looks amazing on my rg552
if you're going to claim it's a bad image you're going to have to make an actual argument

>> No.9371540

>>9371347
>gayboy shitcro
OOF YIKES

>> No.9371601

https://youtube.com/watch?v=emmHq4V-BmU
>playing random mutt music
anbersisters, this is so embarrassing...

>> No.9371612
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Playing DOOM WADs on my Steam Deck

>> No.9371629

>>9371527
>amazing
>stretched out pixels
>improper scaling
>shimmer
>laggy display
>chinese
ok


if you want to emulate just get a used android tablet, bigger screen, better resolution, more ram, any controller you want, less spergy

>> No.9371678

>>9371629
chinkheld > tablet with controller attached > shitboy shitcro

>> No.9371681

>>9371629
sooo... just set up proper scaling with interpolation to solve all of these issues?
>laggy display
what does this mean do you have an example of a specific device recommended here that this would apply to because i can't think of any

>> No.9371687

what's worse, 3dsharts, vitards or tabletroons?

>> No.9371691

Picked up a Nintendo DS from a yard sale for $25 and it came with an "M3 Simply" which was already setup. However I can't play GBA games on it, I apparently need to buy a different cart for that? Any advice on what I should buy would be appreciated.

>> No.9371693

>>9371691
gba emulation with a supported flash cart is still pretty shitty, you're better off just getting a dedicated gba flash cart if that's the console you want to use. There are a few different ones, but beware some of the cheap ones which have saving issues

>> No.9371696

>>9371691
everdrive gba x5 or ez flash omega

>> No.9371698

>>9371612
How's the battery life and fan noise when playing something so simple?

>> No.9371703

>>9371698
Not him, but on low-end stuff like that I normally get around 6 hours, sometimes as much as 7. Compared to an Odin or a Retroid it's nothing special, but compared to other handheld PCs it's pretty great.

>> No.9371709

>>9371693
>>9371696
Thanks for taking the time to answer. I hadn't realized this stuff was so expensive, I think I'll just look into buying a Powkiddy v90.

>> No.9371716
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>>9371709
Powkiddy chads, we won AGAIN!

>> No.9371725
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>I haven't been on the Internet for a long while, I feel incredible

>> No.9372079

I have a DS/3DS, but I'm still thinking about getting one of those handhelds that have been posted here. Is it worth it?

>> No.9372090
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>>9371716
>I feel incredible

>> No.9372102

>>9372079
what do u want to play

>> No.9372117

>>9372102
Arcade, NES, SNES, GEN, GBC, and GBA. If possible PS1, but I'm not sure how's the emulation on those machines.

>> No.9372127

>>9348003
I just ordered a retroid pocket 3. Time to sell all my retro games.

>> No.9372148

Should I get an RP2+ or Miyoo Mini? I like that the RP2+ has more options for games but the Miyoo seems more cute and I like the verticality and size of it.

>> No.9372176

>>9372148
If you actually want to play games get the RP2+, if you just want something to take pictures of and display on your soishelf get the Miyoo Mini.

>> No.9372194

>>9372176
RP2+ it is! Thanks man!

>> No.9372204

>>9372194
based games player.

>> No.9372269

>>9372117
Any of the mid tier devices posted here can play all of those

>> No.9372281

>>9371347
Nintendo's entire handheld line has always been defined by terrible hardware being carried hard by excellent software

Every Gameboy and DS actually fucking sucked, the closest Nintendo came to a good handheld was the original advance but that sucked because they forgot to put a fucking lightbulb behind the screen, and the SP sucked because they forgot the headphone jack.

Getting a small emulation handheld and setting a basic filter to get the colours right is the absolute best way to play these systems, even DS and 3DS which have two screens, one of which is touch enabled, for 2.5 times the fucking aggravation to properly emulate are far superior on literally anything that isn't a Nintendo handheld that can run them at full speed

>Source: Have owned every single Nintendo handheld and played the fuck out of all of them

>> No.9372290

>>9372281
Say what you want about the chinks, but they've started making some really kino handhelds lately. Much better than anything nintendo has ever made imo.

>> No.9372584

>>9372281
I liked my GBC, OG GBA, and OG DS back when I was using those. Never found a 3DS version that felt good in my hands though.

>> No.9372595
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9372595

>>9370640
Not only do my gba games look better, I can patch them and make them sound better too. And if it starts getting wore out ill toss it in the trash and buy a new one. Get fucked.

>> No.9372623
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>>9371601
>Caring about the 353M when the 353P and 353V exist
For what purpose?

>> No.9372692

>>9372595
>$139.99
>For NES/GB emulation
That seems a little excessive

>> No.9372763

>>9372623
Better shape. vertical is an uncomfortable meme and 353p is dogshit ugly.

>> No.9372768

any way to use mpv or a web browser using a rg351m?

>> No.9372773

>>9372692
it can do every up to ps1 retard

>> No.9372779

>>9372773
And if you'd followed the conversation, you'd see it was about a NES/GB handheld, nigger retard

>> No.9372783

>>9372763
its beautiful! you shut your damn whore mouth!

>> No.9372897

>>9371678
sounds like a thread filled with shills and buyers remorse

>> No.9372925

>>9372897
and now, 1 faggot. you

>> No.9372964

>>9372925
v great post
i am now convinced!
i will be buying several cheapass android handhelds now anon!

>> No.9372967

>>9372964
good for you

>> No.9372992

>>9372768
sigh

>> No.9373017

>>9372992
The answer is right there on the first page of search results, perhaps you should try checking yourself instead of waiting on a forum for 3 hours for someone else to do it for you, sighing performatively like a wet brained toddler staring at a bottle of coke

>> No.9373024

JelOS or ArkOS?

>> No.9373042

>>9373020
You got your answer per the github pages of the most popular firmware packages, there is no web browser available.
There is a media player built in.

Such a fucking power user you don't know how to do a proper search for anything so instead of getting the answer and shutting up you only check reddit then run to 4chan then get stuck, because that's all the internet is to you, and you want to browse the web on a device with a 3.5" 480p screen via Caret browsing without a keyboard.
Use your phone you thalidomide.

Better yet if you're such a power user look at the build of chromium for the chipset that's been out for ages and get it running on the device.

>> No.9373047

>>9373042
you sound mad

>> No.9373049

>>9372964
you just earned me so many social credits

>> No.9373050

>>9373047
I'm not the one screeching about blacks because he hasn't been spoonfed a solution to his latest upcummie generating grift

>> No.9373053

>>9373050
is asking a question in a reoccuring general on a retro board really a stupid thing to do? you're mad

>> No.9373059

>>9373053
Posting *le sigh* because nobody's paying attention to your retarded question is, yes.

>> No.9373080

i always hide these toxic threads
no one in here is actually playing
emulation = pretending aka larping

>> No.9373083

>>9373059
so you respond with a giant paragraph over
>sigh
lmao

>> No.9373114

>>9373083
Nah, I responded with a single sentence, the paragraph was for your pissing your pants over not getting the answer you wanted

>> No.9373430

>>9372194
I fucking love mine, just got the play store San Andreas and it’s kino

>> No.9373538

>>9372897
sounds like a post filled with your gay retarded ass.

>> No.9373673

>>9373059
sigh

>> No.9374791

What's the cheapest handheld I can buy that will let me play FF1 on the go? Do any of those hundred in one consoles have it?

>> No.9374863

>>9370267
>>9370269
Basically, the Retro Engine was designed for dynamic width, because Android devices have really varied dimensions that aren't just 16:9.

Although Sonic Mania was only ever made for 16:9 devices, internally it can operate at any narrower portrait resolution just fine.
Going wider, I think might need extra work? When I tried it on the initial Windows release, it would cause funky rendering issues.

Point is 4:3 works fine, menus and title card look a bit cut off, but actual gameplay functions just fine and boss fights that are confined to the width of one 16:9 screen (like Flying Battery Zone Act 2) have a fully working camera in 4:3.

>> No.9374865

>>9374791
Which version of the game? Because if you're talking about the NES version then a GP2X Wiz could run that, without a doubt anything modern could.

>> No.9374937

>>9374865
NES, I'm trying to find something as cheap as possible. Most of the nice devices don't go below $35, while those chink hundred in one devices are like $15, but most of those don't have any RPGs on them.

>> No.9375135

>>9355270
>better battery life
Negative on that one

>> No.9375425

are there any handhelds with an OLED screen?

>> No.9375449

>>9374937
For your use case I'd recommend the Powkiddy V90, it runs everything pre PS1 but it runs around $40. At the same time I really wouldn't recommend going cheaper than that since emulation performance is likely going to be dogshit and you shouldn't get a handheld that you can't load your own roms into, the ones they come with tend to be awful. The Bittboy pocketgo line is also pretty good but I'm not even sure if they're still being sold anymore so buying one second hand may be your only choice on that front.

>> No.9375454

>>9373059
le sigh

>> No.9375495

>>9375449
Thanks for the input. Guess I'll look for someone selling a used Powkiddy v90 or q90 then.

>> No.9375529

>>9375135
werks on my masheen

>> No.9375579

>>9348003
I was digging around and found my old Gameboy Color a while back along with my games for it. I couldn't get back into pokemon, so I've been going through all my other Gameboy games that I never played when I was younger because I was always playing pokemon.

>> No.9375580

>>9375425
RG503.

>> No.9375664

How is the Win600 vs a Steam Deck?

>> No.9375668

>>9375664
performance wise I meant

>> No.9375867

>>9375664
nevermind just saw a yt review with some game benchmarks, shit's in the 13s, lmfao, garbage

i'll get a steam deck

>> No.9375993

>>9373080
Playing video games all day doesn't leave you a lot of time for 4chan unfortunately

>> No.9376289

>>9375993
YIKES what a waste of free time...

>> No.9376296

why do none of these retro handhelds have Snapdragons? my Pixel 4a 5G blows the Odroid Go Ultra I got outta the water

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>>9376296
I'm gonna guess it's related to price. The Logitech handheld has one, but it's $350 and mogged hard by the D900 in the $225 Odin Lite.

>> No.9376321

>>9376296
cheap junk

>> No.9376329

>>9376313
damn, I lucked out, I got my Pixel refurb'd off eBay for $150

>> No.9377234

>>9348003
is there a handheld that can comfortably play Gain Ground (arcade) full speed and support the basics (like screen rotation)? It's on switch lite through sega ages but I'd rather have something a bit more capable and especially something more classic-focused since I don't care about being able to play new shit.

>> No.9377416

>>9377234
In what world is screen rotation one of the "basics"?

>> No.9377440

>>9376296
We already discussed it earlier in the thread in >>9361513 but it's down to economy of scale and what volume you need to order to get those chips new and the off-brand ARM SOC makers being crafty enough to discourage device makers by upgrading fast enough to make old smartphone chips unappealing to get.

>> No.9378054

>>9352848
>>9354175
My phone + controller can't fit in a cargo pants pocket. I'm not lugging around extra shit when I can just throw one of these retro handhelds in a pocket and call it a day.

>> No.9378098

>>9378054
To each their own. I only have use for one of these things on a flight

>> No.9378258

>>9352934
>yeah but outdated SoC is not. if you bought one of these 3 years ago, it's completely obsolete now.
So buy another one? They're only 50-150 bucks. My phone can run gamecube at 2x resolution but all these things are for is the buttons and form factor really. Especially now that they stream from PC you barely need the internals to do more than a smart tv can.

>> No.9378536

>>9378054
>My phone + controller can't fit in a cargo pants pocket.
why do you wear cargo pants? also no one uses this as a talking point against a switch or steam deck.
>>9378258
>So buy another one?
anon the question more is "why buy one in the first place right now"

>> No.9378554

>>9378536
>also no one uses this as a talking point against a switch or steam deck.
Believe it or not I see muh pocketable used against them all the time. I love smaller handhelds, but I'm not interested in putting any of them in my pocket personally. My issue with playing on phones is that I don't want to play on my phone to begin with and hate detachable controls.

>> No.9378579

>>9378554
>I love smaller handhelds, but I'm not interested in putting any of them in my pocket personally.
i feel the same way. i'd be weary of scratching the fuck out of them that way. kids with gameboys and shit would do that when i was a kid and their hardware always looked ravaged. would rather keep it in a case or something.
>My issue with playing on phones is that I don't want to play on my phone to begin with and hate detachable controls.
totally fair. i am personally using my xbox controller with a clip with my phone because i only use it to play games while at home, and i haven't seen a single telescopic controller that looks as comfortable to play with. i was thinking of TRYING either the kishi v2 or gamsir x2 pro out, just to see. amazon's got their extended holiday return period up now so anything i do get can be returned as late as january 30th. we'll see.

>> No.9378717

>>9378579
Cant you put your handheld in a small pouch before putting it in your pocket? Because thats what I do.

>> No.9378835

>>9378579
>>9378717
Just buy a screen protector and replace it every few years, assuming it even gets damaged enough to bother with. My psp's screen protector lasted 8+ years before I replaced it, and that was for the glue wearing out rather than marks. Kept the thing in my pocket all the time.

>> No.9378889

i dont understand why you want your controller ATTACHED to the device

is the controller on your other home systems stuck to the tv?

tablet and wireless is still better than anything in this thread aside from OG hardware

>> No.9379108

>>9378889
I'm not introducing Bluetooth latency if I don't have to.

>> No.9379254

>>9378889
Stupid dumbass take, why are you all like this? You defend the thing you use as if it's better even when it's clearly shit
Fuck your post and fuck you

>> No.9379385

>>9379108
that's why type c controllers are the most popular kind.

>> No.9379414

>>9378536
Because they have good screens and good buttons and can stream PC?

>> No.9379423

>>9379414
my phone does all that and i can use any controller i like that has good buttons

>> No.9379429

>>9379423
How are you holding your controller and your phone at the same time?

>> No.9379452

>>9379429
depends on which controller i decide to use. either a clip for a traditional one, or it just clips into a telescopic controller.

>> No.9379789
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>jump into bed and boot up Miyoo Mini to continue my Fire Emblem playthrough
>suddenly at the map I struggled to beat yesterday even though I remember literally finishing it and saving the game before turning the device off
>try to exit and restart the emu so I can load my save that I know is there
>Miyoo Mini just fucking crashes and I have to wait like an hour for the device to shut down
>check the save on my PC
>yup, all that progress is gone
>this is the second fucking time this has happened but the first time at least didn't erase my progress
I'm so fucking mad that I'm contemplating selling this fucking thing now and getting an RP3 or something. Or should I just uninstall OnionOS and try MiniUI?

>> No.9379928

>>9379789
this is why you make a savestate and save within the game

>> No.9380191

>>9378536
>why do you wear cargo pants?
Because they're comfortable and have multiple pockets. What, you expect me to wear jeans? Get real.

>also no one uses this as a talking point against a switch or steam deck.
Because no one is pretending those are pocketable devices. Retro handhelds still have their niche in that they are far more portable than a Switch or a Deck. The trade-off is you can't play nearly as many games.

>> No.9380530

>>9377416
I mean software, not hardware. GG is a vertical game, I'd hate for a compatible platform to not support that part especially when something like MAME has it right in there.

It seems obvious that it would be supported since it's software, but I don't trust random fly-by-night hardware makers. Too many bad experiences in the past.

I suppose the thing I meant to say was that I would be happier if the device was comfortably usable in vertical format.

>> No.9380536

>>9348012
I checked out hataraku chocobo, but it seems like besides the pretty visuals it's merely a less exciting version of MULE.

>> No.9380624
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9380624

Love playing my GBC on the subway when I'm going across the city. I've been looking for high score attack games, bite sized games for 10-15 minute subway rides. Got a 50 dollar multicart from FB Marketplace.

I tried to browse /r/gameboy for game recs but 99% of the posts are people posting their 20-30 Gameboy collection, or a modded GB on the Pokemon start screen. It feels like no one over there likes playing games, they just hoard/collect every GB they can get their hands on. I feel like that's why I'm okay playing with a multicart, the prices for games are fucked these days, or at least where I live.

Here's a few of my favorites:
Tobu Tobu Girl Deluxe - Homebrew, jump on platforms to climb higher, with a dash and double jump. Puts a bit of a twist on the Doodle Jump style game.

QIX Adventure - I've only played the Classic mode, but god damn this version of QIX is very fast and addictive. I'm curious if the QIX things have some sort of pattern I can learn or if it's too random.

Shock Lobster - Homebrew, a game where all you do is input attacks (Hold Up and B, hold L and A), and jump over attacks from a boss. Really addictive, unlockable attacks which I don't even know what they do, but it's fun to grind and unlock OP attacks.

Revenge of the Gator - Pinball game with 1 giant board. It may seem small at first, but after playing for 5-10 min you learn the wonky physics and can have some fun with it.

Always looking for good high score attack games for GB/GBC! I bought the GBA/multicart but I haven't been having as much fun with the game as the GBC.

>> No.9380723

>>9380624
>50 dollar multicart from FB Marketplace
I hope you mean flashcart and not one of those 100 in 1 multicarts, since you could get a real flashcart for less than that.
As far as GB/GBC games go, I mostly just play Tetris if I want to play something quick. The Rosy Retrospection romhack is worth checking out.
The GB version of Donkey Kong is fun in short bursts too.
GBC Pokemon Pinball is worth a shot if you like pinball and somehow haven't played that yet.
The Kirby's Dream Land games are fun and levels are short, but the first one doesn't have saves so you'd have to patch save states in if you don't have a cart that supports them.

>> No.9380734

>>9380723
Flashcart* my bad.

I'll grab that Tetris Romhack, looks neat. I loved the DK GB game as a kid, I think it had 100 levels. I even bought it on my 3DS a few years ago and beat it, it's always a great time.

>> No.9380735

I’ve been depressed since I’ve got my Steam Deck. It really is the perfect device. Can emulate fucking everything. Huge amazing screen. Great controls. So I’m no longer wondering what my next handheld will be. No point in reading previews or reviews any more. Nothing to look forward to. It’s all over.

>> No.9380768

>>9380735
Start following the mini scene of stuff that can actually fit in your pocket.

>> No.9380792

>>9350756
this is legit, rather than treat your handheld like the infinite library of the universe. treat every game like when you were a kid and you were actually excited to learn about how the game works and the story blurb on the box and such.

>> No.9380795

>>9380735
>>9380768
This is the main benefit of the Deck being so big, it allows me to cope with "umm akshually I need a smaller handheld too" so I can continue consuming small incrementally better chinkshit.

>> No.9380806

>>9356175
everything nintendo has a shit screen

>> No.9380819

>>9380806
>T.vitatard

>> No.9381028

>>9380806
The ags101, and every DS other than the original have great screens.

>> No.9381053

>>9381028
Doesn't the AGS-101 screen have pretty bad ghosting? Supposedly ITA modded original GBAs that use DSi screens look a bit better because of that.
Which DS version is the best? I only ever had the original DS, but I might pick one of the others up sometime to play stuff with my old flashcart if I can find one cheap enough.

>> No.9381070

>>9381053
>Doesn't the AGS-101 screen have pretty bad ghosting?
Yeah, unfortunately. It's not that bad but it is annoying when you're speeding through Mario levels.
>Which DS version is the best?
The DS lite is the all-around best, but if you can live without the GBA slot then a DSi is really nice. They have clicky buttons like the GBA SP and I prefer that.

>> No.9381191

>>9381070
I'll probably look around for a cheap DSi since I still have my original GBA. Regular or XL?

>> No.9381216

>>9381191
It's up to you. I don't have a DSiXL, but I have a 3DSXL and wish I got a small one instead.

>> No.9381474

>>9379254
kek
thats the entire thread anon
the entire thing is a shill-thread
distributors trying to slang cheapass "gaymen" devices

none of them are good

>> No.9381589

>>9381474
eh, I like my 351mp, I use it to play 8 and 16-bit consoles in bed after work, works great and looks great

>> No.9382356

>>9380819
Ok nintendrone

>> No.9383101

>>9381589
>eh
post discarded.

>> No.9383508

>>9381191
XL for the IPS screen which is actually good, normal sized DSi has TFT shit.

>> No.9383593

Just got the RP3 and I wanted to tell you guys that I 100% recommend it, it has perfect size for the pocket, a bit bigger than RP2+, bit smaller than RG552, they've FINALLY switched places of the d-pad and the left stick and the screen is amazing, it looks sharp and crisp.

>> No.9383596

>>9383593
Do you get used to the retarded Start and Select placement? I feel like that's the one thing ruining what looks like a perfect handheld.

>> No.9383605

>>9383593
It's fucking sick innit?

>>9383596
I was used to the start button the minute I picked it up, which really surprised me. I was expecting to struggle with it for a but, but nope, it actually feels good and natural. The select button is a bit of a pain to hit imo though. Not like I use it a lot anyways, but if it were up to me I'd place next to the L1 button, same distance Start is from R1.

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>>9383605
I saw this image while looking around for info and I guess one solution would be to put Start and Select on the top right and top left respectively and use the touchscreen. Seems like a decent workaround.

>> No.9383630

>>9383596
The placement is ok imo, better than having them on the sides I guess, the only thing I would change maybe is giving the back of the console something to get a better grip, something a bit rugged maybe, for me it's too smooth, but otherwise as you say it's a perfect handheld, nice sound, no more digital sticks, the bumpers feel super good....

>> No.9383670

>>9383593
>>9383630
Wasn't there an issue with the screen?

>> No.9383709

>>9383670
Some early units sent to reviewers had some issues apparently, but the screen is hands down the best thing of the RP3, I don't know what panel they are using but it's fantastic.

>> No.9383761

>>9383709
I heard it's an iPhone 8 panel.

>> No.9383779

>>9383709
It wasn't even review units, it was pre-production units. And I say units plural, but as far as I know taki is the only one that had one with that issue.

>> No.9383896
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>>9382356
Ok Vitatard. See, I can do it again!
>>9383101
>using eh makes anon want to discard a post
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Shout out to the anon who told me to wait for the 353V. This is such a cool little device. If you would have told 9 year old me that one day I could play Tony Hawk on a gameboy I never would have believed you

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Anyone else looking forward to Ayaneo Flip or Slide? I really like the idea of having a keyboard for dosbox stuff.

>> No.9385312

>>9385206
Tiny keyboards are the absolute worst. I just need a console with a wireless keyboard hookup and I'm good I don't care if it's a little more cumbersome, better than that 2007 blackberry phone keyboard experience

>> No.9385341

>>9383761
Any source on this?