/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9285478]

Even when the difference is subtle, why is US box art always so much worse than PAL/JP?

[Anonymous No.9285593]

Americans like their marketing to be flashier and more on-the-nose, subtlety is underappreciated. You see the same thing in damn near every type of product, not just vidya.

[Anonymous No.9285727]

>>9285478
>photoshop
>film grain filter
>max out glow
>photo filter: yellow
>intensity 80 percent

Wow!!! So good!! So much better!!! Such art!!
Hey let’s render this character in 3D and then totally throw that in the trash by hiding it with a basic photoshop filter!!

[Anonymous No.9285743]

>>9285727
Yes anon, editing an image makes it look better.
You should look at professional photographers shots before and after they edit it.
Besides, the cover doesn't even have a piss filter like your picture has.

[Anonymous No.9285764]

>>9285743
The player model of Heather looks practically exactly like she does in game/in fmv. In the background you can see the decaying silent hill. It matches the tone of what you are about to purchase better and the rusted color grading is more accurate to what silent hill is than your fucking failed artfaggot euroshit cover that doesn’t resemble the game at all. It looks like a thumbnail for an episode of a Ghosthunting show, but keep telling yourself it’s better.

[Anonymous No.9285798]

>>9285764
Yeah no. It'd be fine if it was just her face without the filters you so hate, but instead it just looks like shitty clip art where they took a screenshot from the game and pasted Heather's render over it with that god awful dropshadow effect.
>your fucking failed artfaggot euroshit cover that doesn’t resemble the game at all
The point of box art in be it movies, videogames or whatever, isn't to be a complete imagining of what the actual content is, it's supposed to grab your attention and make you intrigued. When you flip the box over, that's where you see what the actual content of the product is.

[Anonymous No.9285834]

>>9285798
It’s inner-shadow with glow.

Artistically it’s better as the color grading matches the rust of silent hill. You get an exact representation of the video game with the FMV model render on the cover which dually represents the art style not just of the game, but of the times. This cover is better now than it was on release because of that.

The eurofag cover is worse.

The point of box art in video games is to be representative of the content that is inside the 60 dollar disc. Consumers are proven to judge a book by it’s cover.

Euros hate honesty in advertising, they simply can not handle it.

[Anonymous No.9285918]

American boxes are intentionally less eye-catching in order to avoid impulsive smash and grab robberies by a certain group of urban retail enthusiasts

[Anonymous No.9285969]

>>9285834
Christ.

[Anonymous No.9285981]

Mega Man Zero UK box arts are AWFUL

[Anonymous No.9286585]

>>9285478
US' oinsistence to slap renders on covers for some reason.

[Anonymous No.9286647]

>>9285764
you have shitty taste. and im not that other anon.
the right is lazy garbage. pic of in-game character, set against pic of in game background. holy shit youre simple

The left cover actually conveys that the subject is illusionary, or losing their sense of reality, and has an ethereal tone to it.

Your paint-by-the-numbers want for simple, childlike art representation is just smoothbrained tripe. Did you slap your hand against the box and drool when you saw it on the shelf?

[Anonymous No.9286651]

Oh hi Mark

[Anonymous No.9286654]

>>9286647
Go on Reddit and see how many people agree with you (it’s everybody lol).
The SH4 USA cover is silly because of the face, but the USA SH3 cover is superior in every conceivable way.
Euro cover (which actually is lazier than the US cover) makes Heather look like the enemy, while the US cover makes her look like a stressed out protagonist. One his honest and the other is dishonest. Europeans love being lied to which is why their union is in such great shape lol.

[Anonymous No.9286657]

>>9286654
nta, but it's pretty interesting how you seem to know what reddit thinks
have you considered staying and posting there instead

[Anonymous No.9286661]

>>9286657
My original pic was poached from Reddit and it’s full of dick sucking cucks spouting the same pseudointellectual bullshit you are. There are European covers that are better, and SH3 is NOT one of them.
If the US SH4 cover didn’t have that stupid screaming zombie face, it would be better than more glow filter euroshit.

[Anonymous No.9286665]

>PAL/JP
>actually representative of the art direction the game is going for while accurately depecting the gameplay mechanics

>US
>Fuck that, have 3D renders instead because 3D is all people want
>So you're actually this badass viking dude going around hitting people with a wooden plank, you're doing this to save this girl who looks like she was kidnapped by terrorists but at the same time she's the one driving you around

[Anonymous No.9286669]

>>9286665
He has that look and found that stick to beat eurofaggots who complain about y2kino renders over the head with. He’s about to pop a blood vessel at how fucking gay you are and needs to kill you.

[Anonymous No.9286692]

>>9286669
"y2kino" is an American invention.

[Anonymous No.9286713]

>>9286665
Us is nice. It invokes that hardy boys feeling and it probably sold the game to a lot of audiences that never would have played it more so than the pal cover. I'm not going to be butthurt or act like the cover art matters much when the gameplay is the show. The artwork comprising on being an accurate representation of that art is ok if it sells that art better

[Anonymous No.9286735]

>>9285478
The US version wouldnt look bad at all if not for the dumbass screeching zombie head.

[Anonymous No.9286751]

The discourse between the 3rd and 4th games is mostly fair, but you absolutely can not tell me that the US cover art for SH1 isn’t brilliant.

[Anonymous No.9286753]

>>9286751
Not to mention…

Just…

[Anonymous No.9286798]

>>9285918
I'd make my game look like homework

[Anonymous No.9286812]

>>9286751
The Cybil face embedded onto Harry's face in the US cover is horrible, not to mention going for black&white

[Anonymous No.9286906]

>>9286751
>>9286812
Plus the color scheme and the snowfall (??) in the background makes it look like a christmas thing

[Anonymous No.9286917]

>>9285727
>not realizing it is a homage to the video of Cheryl crying for help in SH1
>NA cover is literally just a selfie
The absolute state of US gaming

[Anonymous No.9286970]

>>9285743
>>9285798
>>9286647
>>9286657
>>9286917
PALfaggots on suicide watch.
Here’s your glorious amazing design work in action. 4 minutes in photoshop.

[Anonymous No.9286975]

Holy shit this has to be fake, I don't even...

[Anonymous No.9286976]

>>9285727
PAL version actually looks like a horror game, a triple A game at that

[Anonymous No.9286990]

>>9286970

>It actually looks better

What point were you even trying to make here?

[Anonymous No.9286994]

This is as bad as Ico

[Anonymous No.9286996]

>>9286990
That putting old timey photo paper texture, monochromatic noise, some blur and using a piss filter is a lazy as fuck way to do a a video game cover that tricks midwits into thinking it’s some criterion shit. All of the artistry in the render is completely lost by some asshole with photoshop in 5 minutes. I seriously wonder how much he got paid to fucking do that.

[Anonymous No.9286997]

>>9286996
Holy shit you are a retard. What fucking artistry is in the render? What do you suppose it conveys that the PAL version fails to? Is it lazy, or are they communicating something to the audience you fucking tit?

[Anonymous No.9286998]

>>9286994
>>9286975
>>9286665
Why do Americans hate ilustrations so much lmao

[Anonymous No.9287004]

>>9286997
Do you know how difficult 3D modeling of that fidelity was in 2003? Do you know think the Silent Hill art team didn’t spend hundreds of hours of their time to creating the “look” of silent hill only for it to be completely washed out with photoshop filters?
It’s fucking tacky and lazy. USA cover shows what silent hill looks like in environment, color and atmosphere, pal cover shows a ghost in the piss realm for all the fucking audience knows.

[Anonymous No.9287006]

>>9287004
Anon just stop embarrassing yourself and admit that you have awful taste.

[Anonymous No.9287008]

>>9287004
And what does the 3D model in the NTSC version convey to the audience? It's not a good box art, whereas the PAL version appropriately conveys the hopeless, demented fracturing of mind and soul you would want from a psychological horror.

The PAL version also uses the Japanese art, by the way. So the Japs "lazily" put detailed artistic effects over the model they themselves created for – you guessed it – artistic effects. Meanwhile, Konami of America lazily put a render over another image, and applied a black gradient.

Have you ever held one job in your life? Nobody this retarded could finish high school. You evidently think very deeply about this stuff and still produce awful opinions that neglect basic details, whereas I'm merely writing this comment as I go because all I need to do is state the obvious

[Anonymous No.9287012]

6th gen sucked in many ways quibbling over box art is just cope.

[Anonymous No.9287014]

>>9287008
>Have you ever held one job in your life?
Yes actually, I was your dad’s physical therapist after he got gang raped by a gaggle of pakis in London for showing off his ankles.

Show me exactly where the source image comes from don the euroshit cover.

[Anonymous No.9287015]

>>9287008
>The PAL version also uses the Japanese art, by the way
That's usually the case, but not this time.

[Anonymous No.9287017]

>>9287014
>Euro means British
Based retard

[Anonymous No.9287018]

>>9286997
>What do you suppose it conveys that the PAL version fails to? Is it lazy
Yes, SH3 is a lazy unfinished asset flip

[Anonymous No.9287020]

>>9287017
>your gay feminine dad can’t travel to other European cities

[Anonymous No.9287023]

>>9287008
>detailed artistic effects
It took me literally, and I mean literally 5 minutes to copy it 1:1

[Anonymous No.9287026]

>>9287023
You absolutely didn't. You missed the Thanos snap effect

[Anonymous No.9287027]

>>9287014
>>9287020
I'm Australian.

[Anonymous No.9287035]

>>9287027
No you’re not and your previous post said:
>Euro means British
Australians aren’t Europeans because Australia isn’t in Europe, they are Australians from the Australian continent.
Actual retard.
If you wanted your previous and current post to make sense it should have said:
>PAL means British

Why do PALniggers sucks so much niggerdick? Is it because they’re gay nigger loving niggers?

Marlboro is American btw.

[Anonymous No.9287039]

>>9287035
Bro you're talking to, at the very least, 2 different posters. Chill out, you're going to have a stroke

[Anonymous No.9287042]

>>9287026
I don’t see that. I missed the tidal wave frame at the bottom and the “silent hill” text blown up behind the title.

Your dad misses the toilet because the pakis stretched his gay asshole out so much though.

[Anonymous No.9287047]

>>9287039
I’m talking to myself because I’m the only person on the internet (dead internet) and I hate every single one of my multiple personalities and each and every single one of them are wrong.

[Anonymous No.9287053]

>>9287035
Different anon you utter sped
Also:
>In 1846, British tobacconist Phillip Morris opened a shop on Bond Street, London, UK, selling tobacco and rolled cigarettes. After his death from cancer in 1873, his brother Leopold and widow Margaret continued the business, growing it and opening a factory on Great Marlborough Street, London, from which the name was taken.
Get fucked wanker!

[Anonymous No.9287065]

>>9286975
All MGS NA covers are excellent.

[Anonymous No.9287070]

>>9287053
>Marlboro (US: /ˈmɑːrlˌbʌroʊ/,[2][3] UK: /ˈmɑːrlbərə, ˈmɔːl-/)[4] is an American brand of cigarettes

What’s that? He moved to based USA and then named them Marlboros? Ah I see that must make them European.

Should have kept reading the article. He’s out shit now.

[Anonymous No.9287071]

>>9287070
You can't even say Marlboro right, it ain't yours nigga

[Anonymous No.9287072]

>>9287065
Essential collection > Subsistence >>> PAL = JP >>>>> Korea > US

[Anonymous No.9287076]

>>9287071
Like Scarborough with an extremely gentle and quick “L” between the r and the b.
How Americans says Marlboro is actually an IQ test here.

[Anonymous No.9287078]

>>9287065
I like PAL more, but they're each pretty good. MGS2 has the best MGS cover though, and it's pretty much the same for both NA and EU.

[Anonymous No.9287081]

>>9287072
black and white coverart is trash and always will be. how the fuck do you look at this pretentious garbage and think it looks better than stock MGS3 cover? kill yourself dicklet worshipping weeb

[Anonymous No.9287085]

>>9287081
>It looks nice so it must be pretentious.
I agree, it's truly more artistic and much less arrogant to just have a piece of shit on display

[Anonymous No.9287092]

>>9287065
Why would you get rid of the Yoji Shinkawa art and replace it with some shitty cgi or a plain white picture?

[Anonymous No.9287093]

>>9287085
no, it's pretentious because it's a gay sketch of snake with a bunch of meaningless ripped trash bags flying around him while woman-eyed faggots look disappointingly towards the forefront, which hurts even more because it's clearly intended to look "badass" when in reality it looks gay and retarded. meanwhile original cover is a perfect representation of the actual game and has color and nuance. i repeat, kill yourself genetrash.

[Anonymous No.9287096]

>>9287093
It's pretentious to have the major characters on the front cover? Also, why is colour automatically good/monochromacity automatically bad? Doesn't absence of colour say something, much like its presence does?

[Anonymous No.9287098]

>>9287093
>woman-eyed faggots
how progressive

[Anonymous No.9287104]

>>9287096
it's pretentious to draw them to look as gay as possible, yes. also the ripped trash bags are retarded as fuck and you cannot deny that, and the rest of the cover is basically just blank space. black and white is boring, tryhard weeb shit is boring, pencil sketch faggotry is boring. original cover pops, has excellent use of contrast and negative space, and tells you exactly what the game is going to be about. the one you posted is faggoty shit for longhairs who beat off to weird porn and read berserk. you have no taste and you online dislike the original cover because the orange reminds you of the time your stepdad molested you during sundown and the realistic CG snake looks like him

[Anonymous No.9287106]

>>9287104
ripped trash bags represent the quality of the game

[Anonymous No.9287113]

>>9287104
>gay as possible
what
>trash bags
what
>black and white is boring
Oh, so you have autism. Many autistic people are stimulated by colour in a strange manner; some are overstimulated by the faintest shades and others are understimulated by the most vivid hue. You seem to fall into the latter category, where you require a high colour information intake on your retinue. I would recommend painting the walls in your house in various colours and patterns – this will help you concentrate on doing more pertinent tasks than making a knob of yourself on the internet.

[Anonymous No.9287116]

>>9287113
>what
bro if you can't see how those pencil sketches in the background with the jojo tier eyes look fucking gay, you are beyond saving. i'm not reading the rest of your post beyond this because you are clearly a homosexual.

[Anonymous No.9287119]

>>9287116
I've never seen/read Jojo
Eva and The Boss are both female, by the way – if you were wondering why they have feminine eyes.

[Anonymous No.9287130]

Is this the new shitpost tactic? We pretend ugly CG render covers are the best and call anyone who likes handdrawn or artistic covers some variant of euro?

[Anonymous No.9287137]

>>9287092
The face of The Boss in the trees is his artwork, and the CG Snake is more than likely part of their marketing plan to show Snake blending into his environments.
I remember multi-page magazine articles dedicated to Snake Eater where most of the in-game screenshots had Snake hiding with camouflage so the reader had to hunt for him like he was Waldo or something.

[Anonymous No.9287141]

>>9287137
I thought that was Volgin's face

[Anonymous No.9287142]

>>9287141
Could be. I always assumed it was The Boss because she's watching over Snake and the true "antagonist" but it does look more mean than The Boss usually appears.

[Anonymous No.9287150]

I was looking at classic Silent Hill box arts recently and decided that these are the best ones:
>SH
EU
>SH2
US (Jap is cool too)
>SH3
EU
>SH4
Jap (EU is too saturated [Jap cover has a dumb face though])

[Anonymous No.9287761]

>>9287150
fyi "Jap" is a racist term like "nigger" or "spick"

[Anonymous No.9287842]

Minamilism is, more often than not, very fucking lame.

[Anonymous No.9287857]

>>9287761

[Anonymous No.9289441]

>arguing over videogame covers
gay_nerds_fighting.jpeg

[Anonymous No.9289459]

>>9285478
Low visual IQ in the states.

[Anonymous No.9289482]

>>9289459
Euros need their piss filter to remind them how much they love Hans’ golden showers. Market research shows the more a product reminds them of homoerotic encounters they’ve had, the more likely they are to buy it.

[Anonymous No.9289624]

>>9285478
CGI FLYING HEADS and NO subtlety, no Mistery, no Charm. We pal bros got also our fair share of TERRIBLE covers, but not as quite as you Americans.

[Anonymous No.9289703]

>>9285478
Dumber audience. We're mostly made up of fat hick rubes and niggers. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.9289707]

>>9289482
Dude shut the fuck up. I'm American and your weird cope and pride is so misplaced. This country and its people fucking blow, and I don't understand your defensiveness here. What are you, some boomer who still believes in this shithole?

[Anonymous No.9289821]

>>9289703
Oi Nigel you need to drop the bri'ish expressions when larping as a burger

[Anonymous No.9289963]

>>9285478
Test

[Anonymous No.9290324]

>>9289821
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey,_Rube!

[Anonymous No.9290730]

>>9285478
The US one is closer to the original, but it is a case of trying to replicate something and failing horribly.

[Anonymous No.9290743]

>>9286753
This one is shit but I like the SH2 one which is similar

[Anonymous No.9290849]

>>9285593
Fair and accurate assessment. PAL shouldn't be factored in as "good" with the JP covers, however, as they are almost always just lazy and cheap hand-me-downs of the JP ones with a shitton of EU-mandated licensing logos stuck all over the coverart. When they actually do make uniquely original coverart, it's almost always atrocious, like the PAL Mega Man Zero 3 cover or that Snow White PS2 game's.

[Anonymous No.9291075]

>>9286975
This is the PAL version. lol

NA version is the slickest. White background. Clean METALLIC lettering. Very nice to look at in person.

[Anonymous No.9291135]

>>9291075
The re-release for the Essential Collection has some pretty cool artwork

[Anonymous No.9291293]

>>9285478
Americans like 3d faces and weapons. Simple as that

[Anonymous No.9291436]

>>9286751
>>9286753
They all look good and represent the game well

[Anonymous No.9291476]

>amerilards being lazy

[Anonymous No.9291479]

>>9291476
never post this ugly half kyke nigger ever again you fucking monkey sack

[Anonymous No.9291537]

>>9285727
Found the assblasted amerimutt.

[Anonymous No.9291604]

>>9287004
Wanting everything to be literal is a sign of autism.

[Anonymous No.9292332]

>>9291075
yeah if there's one game with the rep to make lettering and white background work it's mgs.

[Anonymous No.9292424]

>>9285727
>>9286994

WHat is it with using that glow filter?
Whenever a model was added they used this crappy filter. That always makes it look cheap and pasted. At least >>9286665 understood that to not also let him glow, which would have made it even crappier.

[Anonymous No.9292441]

>>9286994
PAL coverart looks cooler but at least the American art is more representative of the game since it's a cheesy action romp

[Anonymous No.9292506]

I can't think of a series that has consistently gotten it as bad as Persona. I left out vanilla P3's horrible PAL cover, but the US covers were consistently worse than the JP covers up until they started finally using the same covers with P4. It's kinda weird considering I'm pretty sure every other Megami Tensei game that was localized didn't have the cover changed aside from SMT Nocturne, which was only recolored from blue to red in America (although for what it's worth the PAL Nocturne cover is a horrible closeup of some stock art with Dante's 3D model slapped on top of it with the "Featuring Dante from Devil May Cry" meme symbol)

[Anonymous No.9293285]

>>9285478
The PAL one looks like shit. Uninspired and boring. The NTSC is kino, looks like a Slipknot album cover.

[Anonymous No.9295253]

Bump

[Anonymous No.9295289]

>>9295253

US one was ruined by the fucking face.
"LOOK AT THE SCARY MONSTER! OOOHHH!" is what it screams at you.
This a theme that drags through all of these: lack of subtlety. They seem to be obsessed with the idea that the cover NEEDS to have some face on there, every tastfully subtle cover i therefore destroyed. You can see it in your examle, just show the chained barred door, that looks spooky and intriguing enough - but no, "We GOT to show them a spooky face!" is what the suits said - and the aesthetic was ruined.
You can see it in the case of ICO or one of the wors offenders is Amnesia TDD where they replaced the tasteful pleasing and anmysterious rose lying on the ground in the rain with that horrible mess, again: LOOK AT THE SCARY MONSTER!!

[Anonymous No.9295292]

>>9293285

US one was ruined by the fucking face.
"LOOK AT THE SCARY MONSTER! OOOHHH!" is what it screams at you.
This a theme that drags through all of these: lack of subtlety. They seem to be obsessed with the idea that the cover NEEDS to have some face on there, every tastfully subtle cover i therefore destroyed. You can see it in your examle, just show the chained barred door, that looks spooky and intriguing enough - but no, "We GOT to show them a spooky face!" is what the suits said - and the aesthetic was ruined.
You can see it in the case of ICO or one of the wors offenders is Amnesia TDD where they replaced the tasteful pleasing and anmysterious rose lying on the ground in the rain with that horrible mess, again: LOOK AT THE SCARY MONSTER!!

[Anonymous No.9295295]

>>9285478
>>9295292
The ghost is doing the beta male open mouth selfie pose

[Anonymous No.9295332]

>>9290743
Those squares are so random in terms of something to put on the cover. Like even in-universe what do the red papers even MEAN? Like I get that's the save point before the P-head fight but like yeah.

[Anonymous No.9295336]

>>9295295
It's just screaming, you schizo

[Anonymous No.9295343]

>>9286970
I like it.

[Anonymous No.9295945]

>>9295292
> lack of subtlety
How can I know it is a horror game without a scary face huh?
How Can I know it is a shooter without LOADSAGUNS on the cover huh?
How can I know its a racing game without VROOM VROOM GOTTA GO FAST on the cover huh?

The answer to all these question is the same - you know it from your post, many other anons know it but a shockingly huge number do not and they are the reason why these covers exist. The same reason is why the the 1/3 pound burger didn't sell.