/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9274687]

How did the Sega Saturn outsell the Nintendo 64 in Japan?

What is their Super Mario 64?
What is their Ocarina of Time?
What is their GoldenEye?
What is their Wave Race 64?

[Anonymous No.9274692]

rpgs

[Anonymous No.9274723]

>>9274687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82_Pyh7QDfk

[Anonymous No.9274734]

>>9274687
Library
Library
Library
The three things that matter.

[Anonymous No.9274764]

>>9274687
Because of one man.

[Anonymous No.9274774]

>>9274687
because it didnt. n64 sold 5.5 and ss sold 5.7. ss came out a year earlier. the difference is well within the margin of error. they were basically even. unfortunately the ss got objectively raped everywhere else.

[Anonymous No.9274806]

>>9274774
>because it didnt.
wrong. it did. you mention as much in your next sentence.
>ss came out a year earlier.
irrelevant. saturn sold more in japan. keep coping.

[Anonymous No.9274827]

>>9274806
>wrong. it did. you mention as much in your next sentence.
you ignored the next sentence after that because you're angry
>irrelevant. saturn sold more in japan. keep coping
lmao N64 sold nearly 4x as many units total so arguing about which console sold more in japan in an attpt to.pretemd saturn wasnt the dog turd it was, is the definition of cope. try again virgim weeb.

[Anonymous No.9274831]

>>9274827
dude the thread is titled "How did the Sega Saturn outsell the Nintendo 64 in Japan?" not "pretend the n64 sold better in japan and get mad when people correct you"

[Anonymous No.9274832]

>>9274687
If you want to know why the Saturn flopped: the most popular Saturn games included Virtua Fighter 2, which no one really cared about outside Japan; a bunch of RPGs, which were too autistic for white kids (or so Sega of America believed); and a bunch of erotic visual novels, which probably would have sold well, except that back in those bible-thumping days, would have resulted in a ban on the importation of Japanese games.

[Anonymous No.9274837]

>>9274831
>get mad when people correct you
how ironic, you're the one ignoring the fact that the SS came out a year earlier and the alleged sales numbers (that have no real provable basis) are separated by a measly 200k units. acting like the SS "won" a region when it came out a year earlier and sold so few units more that the difference is impossible to actually calculate is gay and retarded. the saturn was a piece of shit and lost hard dude. it'a time to get over itm

[Anonymous No.9274860]

>>9274687
Japs only play jrpgs, shootemups, puyo puyo and mahjong. N64 didn't have any of that shit well save for maybe a mahjong game. Saturn however had all of that.

[Anonymous No.9274863]

>>9274837
>it'a time to get over it
damn the nintendofag is even talking like mario

[Anonymous No.9274865]

>>9274860
Puyo Puyo Sun is on N64.
Anyway N64 and Saturn, the systems themselves, sold pretty even in Japan as another anon pointed out, but N64 won in the software sales department. No Saturn game sold as much as the best selling N64 games, maybe except for VF2.
That said, some of the best selling and most popular N64 games are very different from the best selling ones in the west, for example Japan loved Kirby 64 and Yoshi's Story.

[Anonymous No.9274867]

>>9274863
Kek

[Anonymous No.9274870]

>>9274865
>for example Japan loved Kirby 64 and Yoshi's Story.
You also have to realize what other games were coming out at the time. Something like Kirby 64 could easily be over shadowed by Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask.

[Anonymous No.9274872]

>>9274863
the saturn lost bro

[Anonymous No.9274878]

>>9274860
the N64 did actually have all of that, but the only good ones on there out of what you mentioned were Puyo and mahjong games.

[Anonymous No.9274902]

>>9274837
>it came out a year earlier and sold so few units more
It was also discontinued 2 years earlier than the N64 in Japan.
It's telling that even with an extra year and its library fully fledged, the N64 still couldn't catch up let alone overtake the retired Saturn. Embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.9274952]

N64 doesn't have many games, but the games that it does have are considered by developers and fans to be some of the best and most-important games ever made. Is there anywhere out there that says Elf Panty Romance Mahjong 8 is there favorite game? Exactly. No one does. This is proof that quality beats quantity.

[Anonymous No.9274954]

>>9274687
Virtua Fighter. No one (usually literally) bought any other Saturn games. VF1 and VF2 are the only Saturn games that sold a million and the closet games compared to them are barely even half the sales. VF was insanely popular over there for some reason.
Also both consoles sold like total dogshit to begin with, it's not like either was popular.
>>9274902
The Saturn was discontinued because no one was buying them even in Japan after VF2 came out and the production costs and bloated back inventory were a large factor in the continuous massive losses of Sega year to year. They obviously didn't shelve them while they still were moving units.

[Anonymous No.9274957]

>>9274872
In the Euro countries and the America's yes.

[Anonymous No.9274960]

>>9274954
>no one was buying them even in Japan after VF2 came out
That makes it even worse. That game came out in 95 and Nintendo still couldn't catch them. What a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.9275012]

>>9274960
The N64s main draw, and what made it so popular in America was it's multiplayer games. Goldeneye, Mario Party, Conker, WWF and WCW wrestling, all the racing and sports games, stuff like that. If you're alone you could play one of the very few really good games like Zelda or something, but for the most part it's a console for playing multiplayers games. Japs love in closets and can barely fit a TV in their house to begin with, so they only want to play dragon quest or some puzzle game for an hour to unwind after their 14 work day. If they want to socialize they go to arcades. The N64 is the exact opposite of what the average Jap in the mid-late 90s wanted in a game console.

[Anonymous No.9275049]

>>9274952
My favorite game is Kakyuusei

[Anonymous No.9275064]

>>9274687
They still cared about 2D gaming.

[Anonymous No.9275076]

>>9274687
Had a shit ton of RPGs and dating sims. A few of the RPGs were ported to the PSX and then localized to the USA. Sega of America wasn't interested in bringing over most of those. I don't think having Grandia or Vandal Hearts would have saved the Saturn in the USA, but it would have improved its standing amongst game fans

[Anonymous No.9275084]

Fear the power of visual novels, lewd mahjong games and horse breeding sims, baka gaijin.

[Anonymous No.9275254]

>>9274764
the absolute fucking legends.

[Anonymous No.9275260]

>>9275012
Was Nintendo specifically aiming for the American market at that point, then? It seems as though Japanese and Yuros simply didn't consider couch multiplayer as a selling point, while that was the prime driver here. I find the schism between America and the rest of the world vis a vis the N64 one of the most fascinating pieces of vidya history.

[Anonymous No.9275267]

>>9274687
Virtua Fighter played a role. Virtua Fighter 2 specifically. It was the #1 arcade games for ages in Japan with a craze on the same level as SFII.

[Anonymous No.9275286]

Getting into the Saturn does pose people a lot of questions, they see the library the console had in the US, the weird marketing but undoubtedly get into the Japanese side of things, it's the dominant end of discussion on the console. This naturally leads to the obvious that the Saturn from late 1994 to 1998 managed to outsell the N64 which was on the market from mid 1996 to 2001. OK so the N64 had a year extra on the market and it still sold less. The games sold well, it's all the typical N64 games that sold well even abroad but when you look hard enough at the sales of games initially and the audience reception something sticks out;
People largely weren't interested. It's weird because it clashes with western perceptions on the n64, which is often revered as the "true" start of 3D gaming, how it "taught" everyone how to do these things despite it basically being Nintendo's first shot at the field blah blah nothing new here you all know the story.

This dates back to earlier generations in Japan too, Nintendo consoles were jokingly maligned as being for our equivalent of normalfags, while other consoles were for true gamers or perverts and otaku. There's truth to it, Nintendo games are undeniably accessible and less niche. Talk to classic game fans from Japan today and they'll sing praises for Mega Drive and their monster collections of big hitters but fewer people in that scene care about games we revere here.

Sony of course cornered this market and Sega retained the true gamers console but also had more casual and otaku friendly titles. As mentioned before VF2 was a monumental release in Japan. This narrowed N64's potential market.

The big N64 games sold fine but they aren't revered there, whatever reason for their reverence whether it's legitimate or pretentious is for you to decide, but it's telling that largely people didn't really care Mario can side flip and return to stages for more stars unlike here.

[Anonymous No.9275304]

>>9275286
>our equivalent of normalfags
>our
You aren't Japanese, english teacher SJW-kun.

[Anonymous No.9275306]

>>9275286
OoT was famitsu's first 40/40, youre not japanese and full of shit

[Anonymous No.9275317]

>>9275306
>OoT was famitsu's first 40/40
That doesn't mean much when you consider how they rated games that were highly rated in the west and were Japanese made games.

[Anonymous No.9275320]

>>9275304
Rent free.
Remember, that's all you have to say. Rent free.

[Anonymous No.9275328]

>>9275320
You're a kike.
Remember, that's all you have to say. You're a kike.

[Anonymous No.9275351]

>>9275328
Kek, you proved their point retard.

[Anonymous No.9275357]

>>9275351
I don't see it, kike-kun. Elaborate?

[Anonymous No.9275362]

>>9275357
How do you now that that Anon is a kike, or not dear down syndrome cripple!?

[Anonymous No.9275367]

>>9275304
>>9275306
I like these images

[Anonymous No.9275369]

>>9274687
Japs went apeshit for Virtua Fighter. The attach rate at launch was 1:1. I think I read somewhere that arcades were more popular in Japan, so a console with a lot of arcade ports was bound to be successful as a result.

It didn't help that the N64 had precisely fuckall in terms of games for the majority of its lifespan. Nintendo legitimately thought that going through periods where you would have months between releases was a good idea.

[Anonymous No.9275373]

>>9275367

>>9275369
they really did, vf was a huge title. Even today when I talk to Japanese classic gamers VF2 is regularly mentioned. Although I'm friends with more otaku pervert types that want to tell me about valis and dream hunter rem instead but that's OK.

[Anonymous No.9275390]

>muh Shitendo Shitsty Turd
>muh Shaturn
Stop fighting, they both lost. PS1 more like PS won.

[Anonymous No.9275395]

>>9275367
>>9275373
>O MY JAPANESE BUGMEN

[Anonymous No.9275421]

>Mega Drive wasn't popular in Japan
>Dreamcast wasn't popular in Japan
>Saturn was only popular for one game (one hit wonder) which was a lame 3D fighting game

This is all I'm getting from this discussion guys.

[Anonymous No.9275441]

>>9274687
Magic knight, Panzer saga or radiant silver each one of the gaem cost more then a n64 itself fuck do I care what the 4th gaem could be

[Anonymous No.9275449]

>>9275390
Ok Australia Schizo troll.

[Anonymous No.9275465]

>>9275449
He obviously says "Shiturn" and I said "Shaturn", retard. And I don't even speak Australian.

[Anonymous No.9275480]

>>9275465
There are many ways to be a troll douchebag attention whore. Get help.

[Anonymous No.9275502]

>>9275286
>this bullshit again

[Anonymous No.9275534]

>>9275502
>>9275395
>>9275421
I know, I know.
>No one's ever heard of Saturn ever before! It's all about Nintendo and always was!
>Nintendo INVENTED 3D AND analog sticks! How can you deny this? Even Jason Schrier of Kotaku agrees!
>It's all about Nintendos baby, nothing else matters. Japan has always been a Nintendonation. Sega? Nah!
But can we drop the american-centric view for just a single thread? Especially in a thread about a place that's literally not America?

[Anonymous No.9275541]

>>9275534
I was just flat out interested in the difference between fans at the time >>9275260

[Anonymous No.9275553]

>>9275541
Simply put, yeah. Nintendo still had a shit ton of good will on reserve among American gamers. NoA also played the console war game well to get invested customers even more invested. Europe had the opposite situation, pent up bad will with Nintendo. Japan didn't hate the N64, they just weren't into it beyond casual gaming. Want proof of the good will Americans have for Nintendo of the time? Just look at online discourse today. Dominated by the N64 despite the numbers all disagreeing. 66% of all N64's were American.

[Anonymous No.9275562]

>>9275421
>I only care about what's popular
It's okay, I don't value your opinion either

[Anonymous No.9275564]

>>9275553
The discourse is dominated by N64 because there was no PS equivalent to SM64 or OoT/MM. Seethe more.

[Anonymous No.9275565]

here's the JPN sales chart
https://entamedata.web.fc2.com/hobby/game_rank_ss.html
Top 15:
Virtua Fighter 2
Sega Rally
Fighters Megamix
Super Robot Wars F Final
Sakura Wars 2
Super Robot Wars F
NiGHTS
Evangelion 2nd Impression
Tokimeki Memorial
Fighting Vipers
Sakura Wars
Darkstalkers' Revenge
Nonomura Byouin no Hitobito
Virtual-On
Street Fighter Alpha 2
so mix of arcade games and softcore porn. fightan, racin, not as much shootan or jarpig like people assume. Panzer Dragoon Zwei is down in 18th and Soul Hackers at 23rd. seeing an SRW at 6th is a welcome surprise.

[Anonymous No.9275569]

>>9275565
*4th and 6th, my bad

[Anonymous No.9275574]

>>9275564
This is what I'm talking about in that last post, Nintendo knew they had these types of customers and cultivated them. Remember "the greatest game of all time" isn't a description, it's a tagline.

[Anonymous No.9275579]

>>9275574
I don't believe SM64 and OoT/MM are exceptional because of the hype, it's because they are. They are truly the peak of their genre. Though Zelda 1 still holds the 2D throne.

[Anonymous No.9275581]

>>9275579
Yeah they got you pretty good there

[Anonymous No.9275585]

>>9275581
Who's 'they'? Do you even have an argument?

[Anonymous No.9275587]

Saturn does what 64don't

[Anonymous No.9275589]

>>9275585
I just don't care to have a discussion with someone who shoots their wad like that, what will anyone get out of it? You've made up your mind and effectively locked it down since the mid 90s. I played and beat these games many years ago too and other games occupy a different space for me in my mind. We probably don't even agree on the very concept of a game. That's fine, move on.

[Anonymous No.9275593]

>>9275589
The non-Nintendo idea of a Zeldalike is identical hallways full of identical enemies, with the worst kind of logic puzzles: x isn't next to y, so z was next to who? It's just garbage.

[Anonymous No.9275712]

>>9275286
Why do so many people on /vr/ think if they write a long post presented in a slightly more articulate fashion than normal, that everyone won't realize it's still complete head canon bullshit?

[Anonymous No.9275718]

>>9275712
It's literal Jewish pilpul. They learned that more words equals more understanding. Do they still have this power? I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.9275731]

>>9275712
>>9275718
What gets Nintendo fans in such a twist? The sales numbers don't lie, you lost in Japan. You also lost in Portugal. Posts like these aren't going to sell 200k more n64's in Japan so you can declare VJ day.

[Anonymous No.9275737]

>>9275731
America is the only place that matters. Our second amendment keeps the jews from enslaving us. You're just coping, yuroslave.

[Anonymous No.9275757]

>>9274806
Is 200000 units really that much more?

[Anonymous No.9275764]

>>9275737
Hey, person not enslaved by jews, where's your foreskin?

[Anonymous No.9275774]

What I wanna know is, how the fuck do these companies manufacture 5,000,000+ consoles?
Imagine looking at 5 million sega saturns. Or 120 million PS2s. All that plastic, all that copper and iron and aluminum and silicon and glass.

To put these numbers into perspective, Sega sold 2.5x more saturn consoles JUST in Japan, than exist pixels in your 1080p monitor.
And Sony? They sold almost 4x as many PS2 consoles, as exist pixels in an 8K monitor.

It boggles the mind.

[Anonymous No.9275775]

>>9275764
Hey kike, do you actually think that this will stand?

[Anonymous No.9275794]

>>9275775
What, you're gonna grow foreskin somehow?

[Anonymous No.9275797]

>>9275794
I'm doing it as we speak, kike.

[Anonymous No.9275805]

>>9274687
Japs are retarded and don't actually like fun, but their devs are god tier. In the West we have the opposite problem.

[Anonymous No.9275832]

>>9275805
>their devs are god tier
Nintendo, Capcom, and Konami being good doesn't mean all Japanese developers are good.

[Anonymous No.9275908]

>>9274687
>How did the Sega Saturn outsell the Nintendo 64 in Japan?
Virtua Fighter hype early in its life. After that the console died out hard. Terrible software sales for everything else.

[Anonymous No.9275910]

>>9274687
>How did the Sega Saturn outsell the Nintendo 64 in Japan?
Far bigger library with far more variety.
>What is their x/y/z
Apples and oranges, idiot.

[Anonymous No.9275930]

>>9275286
>Talk to classic game fans from Japan today and they'll sing praises for Mega Drive and their monster collections of big hitters but fewer people in that scene care about games we revere here.
Peak weeaboo fanfiction.

[Anonymous No.9276202]

the problem with the saturn faggot argument of "it sold more in japan, so it's better" is that you're having your cake and trying to shove it up your gaping anus too. see, you cant have it both ways. if the saturn was some masterwork of underappreciated technological finesse, and that's why it only sold well amongst the uhh, highly civilized japs with vastly superior culture... then you have to confront the fact that it was also outsold 10-1 by the PS1. so either you admit the PS1 is a better console based on its sales and that the Saturn and N64 are both effectively dogshit, or you confront the fact that sales don't determine the worth of a console and that basing your opinions on what a bunch of beardless manlets buy is just kind of retarded.

[Anonymous No.9276219]

>>9275774
I think the King of All Cosmos put it well when he said something along the lines of "The Earth really is full of things."

[Anonymous No.9276224]

>>9275930
everyone knows japan only cares about the huge library of derby stallion betting games on sfc.

[Anonymous No.9276240]

>>9276202
>the problem with the saturn faggot argument of "it sold more in japan, so it's better"
No one is saying this quit getting mad at the people living in your head

[Anonymous No.9276242]

>>9276224
Japan is not the land of hidden gem aficionados you think it is.

[Anonymous No.9276246]

>>9276242
never said it was retard-kun

[Anonymous No.9276248]

>>9276224
I will never find the glut of pachinko and horse racing games on there anything but funny.

[Anonymous No.9276253]

>>9276246
Then what were you trying to say?

[Anonymous No.9276258]

>>9276253
japan only cares about the huge library of derby stallion betting games on sfc and local baseball seasonal titles.

[Anonymous No.9276263]

>>9276258
That's not true. Those were never at any point top selling games in the country.

[Anonymous No.9276268]

>>9276263
nobody said it was retard-kun

[Anonymous No.9276270]

>>9276268
You just did.

[Anonymous No.9276271]

>>9276270
nope, retard-kun learn to read before replying.

[Anonymous No.9276291]

>>9276271
I read some nonsense about incredibly niche games being the only games people in Japan care about. That would mean they were top selling games.

[Anonymous No.9276294]

can you two just kiss already. oh my god.

[Anonymous No.9276295]

>>9276291
horse betting was not niche

[Anonymous No.9276297]

>>9276295
Sales say otherwise.

[Anonymous No.9276309]

>>9276297
oh thats just the kids of horse betting aficionados picking up mario so they can horse bet in the evening

[Anonymous No.9276337]

imagine thinking Wave Race is as good as F-Zero

[Anonymous No.9276382]

>>9276337
I only used Wave Race 64 as an example because it has a bigger emphasis on advanced physics and polygons compared to other systems. The best driving/racing game on the N64 is Diddy Kong Racing.

[Anonymous No.9276437]

>>9276382
level design is shit but its a fun game

[Anonymous No.9276654]

>>9275049
Didn’t some nigger make a porn with her body pillow?

[Anonymous No.9277424]

>>9274723
>no panzer dragoon saga
>no bulk slash
>no super tempo
>no elevator action returns

[Anonymous No.9277427]

>>9274957
You're not fucking Japanese you spanner. You speak English, and thus the English markets are of sole importance.

[Anonymous No.9277479]

>>9274860
Is mahjong videogames really popular there? Or just a niche thing?

[Anonymous No.9277484]

>>9276271
You are not making sense dumbass.

[Anonymous No.9277526]

>>9277484
>You are not making sense

[Anonymous No.9277541]

>>9277427
>the English markets are of sole importance
The thread is about the Japanese market, you tard.

[Anonymous No.9277547]

>>9277541
Saturn lost in Japan too so you can go shove that cactus up your arse!

[Anonymous No.9277560]

Lol at saturn and n64 losers talking about their garbage consoles. Ps1 is better and won, stop crying about how this fact destroyed your childhood

[Anonymous No.9277573]

>>9275421
exactly. Japs always had a terrible taste for games, even though the best games come from japan. They all find success in the west. Unless you're a retard that thinks that JRPGs are the pinnacle of gaming or something.

[Anonymous No.9277576]

>>9275565
Mario 64 alone is better than those 15 games combined.

[Anonymous No.9277584]

>>9274687
Virtua Fighter, Segata Sanshiro.

>>9274774
>because it didnt. n64 sold 5.5 and ss sold 5.7
So the Saturn outsold the N64? ok.

>>9275757
>Is 200000 units really that much more?
N64 was on the market from q2 1996 to q1 2002. Saturn was on the market from q4 1994 to q2 1998.

So 200k more units but in HALF the time, it basically sold twice as fast as the N64.

[Anonymous No.9277618]

the saturn did not beat the n64 because of how good it is
the n64 lost in japan because of how bad it was
the real question is, why did the n64 sell almost decently in america?

[Anonymous No.9277683]

>>9277618
We really liked goldeneye and wave race...
Actually there are a bunch of sports games that helped too. I doubt japs gave a fuck about football games.
I didn't have an n64 but the games I remember from my neighbors house were
Goldeneye
Blitz
South Park (MP was good)
Wave Race
Mario 64
Gauntlet Legends.
Hexen, but they didn't really like it.
Doom 64.
Turok 1 and 2, I don't think they had any others.

[Anonymous No.9277709]

>>9274687
I think RPG's and Visual Novels helped a lot, stuff like Sakura Taisen and Super Robot Wars, as well as the huge arcade selection which was still booming in Japan, karaoke and VCD support, and other software like those music videos that came on a disc. Pretty much Saturn covered the Super Famicom, PC Engine, and to some degree the Mega Drive market in Japan, while N64 had none of those kinds of games and catered more towards children. PS1 at least had a lot of the same stuff as well. Not my favorite SEGA console, but I probably prefer it over the N64 as an adult.

[Anonymous No.9277740]

>>9274687
As others said the Saturn had visual novels and jrpgs, and Sega's arcade games including Virtua Fighter. N64 had nintendo games which is great and all but if you were a two console kind of person they'd rather have the Saturn and PS1

[Anonymous No.9277887]

>>9275587
Die prematurely and actually lack good first party titles?

[Anonymous No.9277892]

>>9275910
Only VF and VF2 actually sold well though, everything else didn't sell a fraction.

[Anonymous No.9277927]

>>9277887
Please. Shitendo 64 doesn't even have any light gun games and has like 1 (one) shmup. The only genres on the thing are mediocre racing games and gay autistic collecthatons for manchildren. Oh and Zelda. You can run around in empty field. Best game ever.

[Anonymous No.9277935]

>>9274954
>VF was insanely popular over there for some reason
Probably because it was the best fighter ever made at the time. Until VF4 came out and beat it, anyway.

[Anonymous No.9277942]

>>9275286
This. Nintendo was for basic bitches. Saturn was for Real Seggas.

[Anonymous No.9277945]

>>9277927
Banjo was still better than any Sonic game on Saturn imo, but at least we finally got the Adventure games on Dreamcast to make up for it

[Anonymous No.9277957]

>>9277935
VF is a joke and no one has ever given a shit about it. It was popular in Japan because japs are overwhelmingly graphic whores who love simple to play games and a fully 3D fighter with only 2 buttons was perfect for them.

[Anonymous No.9277960]

Soul Calibur is VF but good

[Anonymous No.9277982]

>>9275757
Yes, hardware selling 20k more units than its competitor means that it sold more than its competitor, how hard is this to understand you moron??

[Anonymous No.9278057]

>>9277927
>Shitendo 64 doesn't even have any light gun games and has like 1 (one) shmup.
Someone actually thought this sentence was an epic BTFO.

[Anonymous No.9278130]

>>9274687
Virtua Fighter was huge. That's literally it.

[Anonymous No.9278531]

>Sega accidentally owned rights to Evangelion
>Sega inherited some of the PC Engine demograph
>Sega had a fuck huge red arcade building in Akihabara that became a cultural landmark
>Sega had lax censorship for porn games
Because of this Sega was a weeb otaku company for a short while. I want to go back.

[Anonymous No.9278541]

>>9278057
True I didn't even mention the lack of fighting games and RPGs.

[Anonymous No.9278545]

>>9278531
it breaks the heart lads

[Anonymous No.9278785]

>>9275286

[Anonymous No.9278826]

>>9277479
It was definitely popular back in the day, not sure about now except amongst older folks.

[Anonymous No.9278868]

>>9275286
Imma give you a D on that essay.

[Anonymous No.9278881]

>>9277618
because burgers cant into rpgs

[Anonymous No.9278909]

>>9278826
2p arcade mahjong is a grindy luck game
real mahjong is played with 4 people and it's more psychological bluff game
suchie pai 3 & 4 is interesting because there's a whole city you can explore besides just gambling

[Anonymous No.9279203]

>>9277927
>doesn't even have any light gun games and has like 1 (one) shmup
Good

[Anonymous No.9279349]

>>9278909
>2p arcade mahjong is a grindy luck game
tfw I looked into the code for the original Mahjong Famicom game and it turns out the computer always has a winning hand in store that it will play when it decides it's going to win. What tiles you play will never have any effect.

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>>9278545
It will forever live on in Digimon Cybersleuth.

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>>9274774
The Saturn had 10 million lifetime sales in Japan, that's double what the N64 had.