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Best console of all time, bar none

>> No.9262575
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>Magician Lord
>Baseball Stars 2
>King of the Monsters 1 & 2
>Eight Man
>Cyber Lip
>Blazing Star
>KOF
>Crossed Swords
>The Super Spy
>Neo Turf Masters
>Metal Slug
>NAM-1975
>Magical Drop
>Windjammers
>an unlimited number of great fighters, shoot em ups, and puzzlers

The Kneel Geo

>> No.9262590

>library is 85% shitty fighting games

>> No.9262614

>>9262590
All of them are better than whatever capcom ever did, sf was never good

>> No.9262659

>>9262563
Massively overrated system.

>> No.9262668
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>>9262659
>Aesthetically beautiful
>TRUE home version of arcade games, not watered down ports
>Stock controller is perfect
>The most impressive spritework you'll ever find
>Hardcore games for hardcore gamers, no RPG faggotry
>Exceptionally long lifespan
>A system for adults instead of an overpriced children's toy

Go back to your Super Pretendo, kid.

>> No.9262690

Shoot em ups, brawlers, and fighting games only console, the three worst retro genres designed purely to drain quarters. Bad

>> No.9262695
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>>9262563
No RPGs no care.

>> No.9262709

>>9262668
still massively overrated and anyone who says otherwise hasn't played it for more than a few hours
Once you get bored of your ten favorite games games for the system you'll see how its library is severely lacking.
And that is because its a glorified supergun. It's not even real console.

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>>9262563
Nah, m8, the Playstation 2 still reigns supreme. Absolutely blows it out the water.
The Neo-geo has its niche as a taste of the 90s arcade experience, but even the DC surpasses it with more impressive arcade games as well as a more balanced software library.

>> No.9262729

man i used to play on the ragex emulator on my pc back in 2002 and i had no idea that one game costed so much back then. who in the right mind would spend so much money for one game, like wtf. who was even the target audience for this?

>> No.9262746

>>9262728
PS1 and PS2 are equals I'd say. That's if we judge them separately, obviously you could just use your PS2 to play everything from them.

>> No.9262758

>>9262668
>every game post 1992 is a shitty fighting game

>> No.9262770

>>9262563
Not even better than the NES.

>> No.9262810

>$1000 to play metal slug and kof

>> No.9262815
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>>9262810
>and it's worth it

>> No.9262818

where did you even buy neo geo stuff back in the day? i was born in 85 and i dont ever remember seeing it outside of magazines.

>> No.9262821

>>9262563
Overrated as fuck, the only reason it gets so much dickriding is the cost prohibited elitism.

>> No.9262834

>>9262821
>overrated
Nope, that's the N64

>dickriding
It's called paying respect where it is earned

>cost prohibited elitism
Aaaaaand the obligatory poorfaggot cope, as expected.
Get a job.

>> No.9262836

>>9262834
Thx for proving my point

>> No.9262840

>>9262834
if you were unironically buying neo geo games in the 90s with your own earned money then you would have to be in your 50s or 60s now

>> No.9262846

>>9262815
It really isn't.

>> No.9262874

>>9262729
Rich people who played the rental units at their hotels on business trips and wanted one for their home
>>9262758
This desu, I really love the Neo Geo and it's games I just wish the hardware had been used to it's full potential for a more varied library

>> No.9262901

>>9262563
>118 games
lol

>> No.9262904
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Best console is Dreamcast
2nd best is PSP
Neo Geo is the most exclusive
2nd most exclusive is NGPC

Know the difference

>> No.9262908

>>9262901
most people play like 10-20 games per console

>> No.9262916
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Only a single EB in my city of 200,000 people had an actual neongeo for sale in store. No other game retailer citywide would touch it. They had 2 of each launch title behind the counter, and 2 systems for sale. By mid1992 one system and 3 games sold and then the entire display was removed from the store to make room for more gameboy stuff.

They never brought even even one new game while they had it, just those original $200 launch titles. It didn't last as long as the atari lynx, but the neo geo tied up way too much retail shelf space for its locking cabinet so they had to get rid of it.

>> No.9262918

I always thought it was funny that in spite of all its technical prowess, it can't do polygons. Jack shit.

>>9262614
But it's basically all fighting games and below-average shmups. A library full of the same 2 genres of games, most of which are bland.

>> No.9262923

>>9262908
easy to do with the AES since there's only 118 to choose from lmao

>> No.9262924

>>9262916
I think that's an EB thing. The EB here had 1 also. I continued to buy physical games for the most part until 2011 or something. EB always had the better staff and selection. I would never have been able to buy my favorite game of all time if it was a Gamestop.

>> No.9262927

>>9262908
so if the only console had 20 games then that would be fine since people only play 20 games? what kind of faggot retard logic is that? it's called having choices. you have no choices with a console that has 118 games. people roast the N64 incessantly for having 400 games and you're defending this fucking flop that couldn't even break 150? neck yourself dummy.

>> No.9262954

>>9262918
but muh turf masters
o-on the g-green

>> No.9262956

>>9262927
They're all the same type of game too. The genre variety is worse than N64 by far.

>> No.9262997

>>9262918
Well yeah it came out in 1990, what did you expect? 2D sprite/tilemap rendering and 3D polygonal rendering are two very different things, and while the Neo Geo has some pretty good sprite scaling/rotation being able to fully transform those sprites at a decent rate (like in a way the Saturn renders texture polygons) just requires a hefty amount of processing speed that neither the Neo Geo's display processor nor it's CPU has.

>> No.9263010

>>9262997
>what did you expect?
a little more from what op claims to be the best console of all-time.
I find it decidedly lacking.

>> No.9263012

>>9262997
Sure, but the Mega Drive could croak out games like Star Cruiser and Hard Drivin', and to my knowledge the Neo Geo is in no way equipped for even that due to fixed 2D sprite-strip display capabilities.

For what it's worth I think the Neo Geo is a cool console, it just has a very niche and small library and is too pricey for most classic-era collectors. If it had better represented other genres it would have been more memorable, but then again its games reflect SNK's arcade market of the time period.

>> No.9263015

>>9262997
Sega's heavily cut down arcade hardware called Mega Drive was released in 1988 and yet it was able to handle polygons to a degree.

>> No.9263052

>>9262563
But that's not a sega saturn....

>> No.9263089

>>9262901
>tfw I bought and completed 109 ps2 games in it's lifetime
Not even counting the ps2 games I bought after I got the ps3

>> No.9263115

>>9262563
This system is overrated and expensive as fuck BUT it is awesome to bring out at parties and the games are perfect for it

>> No.9263119

>>9263115
>awesome to bring out at parties
see, the thing is, you need to actually have friends to have a party

>> No.9263131

>>9262668
the problem is every single game cost $200+ and nobody was going to buy that shit other than mega rich fucks

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>>9262668
This is, beyond the shadow of any doubt, the most objectively correct post ever made on 4chan.

>> No.9263390

>>9262728
Ps1 was better
Snes was better
Genesis about even

>> No.9263403

PS1:

•Ace Combat 1-3, Critical Depth, Gamera 2000, Omega Boost, Tempest X3, Vanark

•Bloody Roar 2, Ehrgeiz, Soul Edge, Tekken 3

•Ape Escape, Crash 2&3, Dr Slump, Spyro 1-3

•Alundra, Brave Musashi, Brave Prove, Community Pom, Dragon Valor, Legend Mana, MediEvil 1&2, Threads Fate, Vagrant Story

•MM Legends 1&2, MGS 1+VR, Rising Zan, Soul Reaver, Tail Concerto, Tron Bonne, Tomb Raider 1-5

•Castlevania Symphony, Goemon Akogingu, MM 8/X4/X5, Oddworld Oddysee/Exodus, Strider 2

•Arc Lad 1&2, Azure Dreams, Breath Fire 3&4, Chrono Cross, FF 7/8/9, Grandia, Koudelka, Lunar 1&2, Legend Dragoon, Parasite Eve, Rhapsody 1&2, Saga Frontier 2, SMT 1&2, Star Ocean 2, Tales Phantasia/Destiny/Eternia, Persona 2 Sin & Punishment, Suikoden 1&2, Thousand Arms, Valkyrie Profile, Wild Arms, Xenogears

•Brigandine Grand, FF Tactics, Front Mission 2&3, Kartia, Langrisser 4, Robot Wars, Saiyuki, Master of Monsters, Nectaris, Tearring Saga, Vandal Hearts 1&2, Vanguard Bandits

•Apocalypse, Die Hard, Future Cop, Ghost In Shell, MDK, One

•Fighting Force, Gekido, Gunnm Memory, Jackie Chan Stunt

•Deception 1-3, Remote Control Dandy, Popn Tanks, Team Buddies, Silent Bomber, Trap Gunner

•Devil Dice, Frogger Swampy, Mr Domino, Incredible Crisis, Paranoia Scape

•CTR, Choro Q 2&3, Jet Moto 2&3, RC de Go, Re-Volt, Wipeout 2&3, N-Gen, Racing Lagoon, Rollcage 1&2, Twisted Metal 2, Vigilante 8 2nd

•Aconcagua, Broken Sword 1&2, LSD Dream, Mizzurna Falls, Policenauts

•Res Evil 1-3, Silent Hill, Dino Crisis 1&2, Chaos Break, TRAG

>> No.9263405

Sega Genesis/Mega Drive + CD:

•After Armageddon, Aisle Lord, Arslan Senki, Beggar Price, Cosmic Fantasy Stories, Dark Wizard, Illusion City, Langrisser 1&2, Legend Wukong, Lunar 1&2*, Phantasy Star 1/2/4, Pier Solar, Rise of Dragon, Shadowrun (Genesis & CD), Shining Force 1/2/CD, Shining Darkness, Snatcher, Space Adventure Cobra, Vay*, Vixen 357, Ys III

•Alien Soldier, Spiderman Kingpin, Annet Futatabi, Alisia Dragoon, Blades vengeance, Castlevania Bloodlines, Cave Story, Comix Zone, Contra Hard Corps, Cyborg 009 CD, Dahna, Demolition Man CD, Earthworm Jim 1 CD & 2, El Viento, Exile, Ex Mutants, Gargoyles Ultimate, Gunstar Heroes, Mega Man Wily Wars [Flow + 60Hz], Midnight Resistance, Popful Mail*, Pulseman, Ranger X, Rent A Hero, Rocket Knight 1&2, Shinobi 2/3, Shadow Dancer, Pirates Dark Water, Splatterhouse 2&3, Streets Rage 2 & 3DX, Strider, Terminator CD, Mega Turrican, Twinkle Tale, Valis 1&3, Wolfchild CD, Monster World 3&4, XMen 2

•Animaniacs, Ecco 1 CD & 2 CD, Flashback, Out of This World, Generations Lost, Flink, Highseas Havoc, Taruruuto, Marvel Land, Mickey Mania CD, Castle of Illusion, World of Illusion, Pantufa, Pitfall CD, Prince of Persia 1 CD & 2 (Remastered), Quackshot, Ristar, Socket, Sonic Classic Heroes, Sonic 3 Complete, Sonic Mega Mix (CD), S-Factor, Mobius Evolution, Lost Vikings, Tinhead, Tiny Toons

•Keio Squadron, Lords Thunder, MUSHA, Robo Aleste, Panorama Cotton, Thunder Force 2/3/4, Trouble Shooter 1&2, Zero Wing

•Arcus 1/2/3/Odyssey, Beyond Oasis, Crusader Centy, Landstalker, Light Crusader, Skeleton Krew, Techno Clash, The Chaos Engine, Tougiou King Colossus, Traysia, True Lies, Xenocrisis

•Columns, Marble Madness, Mean Bean, Rock N Roll Racing

*= Un-Worked Design

>> No.9263407

Why are zoomers so obsessed with memeing about this system being expensive that I have been playing via emulation for free for 23 years?

>> No.9263408

SNES:

•Actraiser 1&2, Assault Suit Valken, Axelay, Black Thorne, Castlevania 4, Contra 3, Demon Crest, Edo no Kiba, Front Mission Hazard, Ghost Sweeper, Ganbare Goemon 1-4, Hagane, Joe & Mac 2, Majuu Ou King of Demons, Mega Man 7 Refit, MM X1 Capsule, MM X2, MM X3 Zero Project, Metal Warriors, Metroid Redux, Musya, Psycho Dream, Run Saber, Skyblazer, Super Adventure Island 1&2, Super Bonk 1&2, Super Chinese World 1-3, Teenage Turtles In Time, Great Battle 3-5, Super Turrican 1&2, Wild guns, Xmen Apocalypse, Youkai Buster

•Back to the future 2, Do Re Mi, Holy Umbrella, Magical Popn, Mario World, Ninji Land, Sicari 1&2, Sparkster, Super Ninja Kun, Violinist of hamelin, Umihara Kawase, Yoshi's Island, Zero Squirrel

•Albert Odyssey, Aretha II, Bahamut Lagoon, Breath Fire 2 Retranslated, Nekketsu Tairiku, Chrono Trigger, Energy Breaker, Eternal Filena, Far East Eden Zero, FF4 Ultima, FF5 Void Divergence, FF6 Divergent Paths, FF6 Brave New World, FF6 T Edition, Fire Emblem 3-5, Front Mission, Ihatovo, Laplace, Lennus 2, Live a Live, Lufia 2, Majin Tensei 1&2, Megami Tensei Old Testament, Monstania, Ogre Battle, Lodoss War, Robotrek, SMT II, Last Bible III, Super Famicom Wars, Mario RPG, Shadowrun, Super Shell Monster Story 1&2, Tales Phantasia, Hourai High, Wozz, Treasure Hunter G, Treasure Rudras

•Alcahest, Bomberman, Brandish 2, Crystal Beans, Ghoul Patrol, Goof Troop, Gunman's Proof, Illusion of Gaia, Marvelous, Pocky Rocky 1&2, Secret Mana Turbo, Soul Blazer, Terranigma, Firemen, Spike McFang, Trials of Mana, Xak, Ys V, Zelda, ZAMN

>> No.9263409

>>9262695
>no rpgs
That's why it holds up so well.

>> No.9263413

>>9263407
Stop brainlessly screaming zoomer where it doesn't even make any fucking sense. Somebody born in the year 2000 doesn't even know what a fucking neo geo cost.

>> No.9263419

I'm no expert on the subject but from what I have read on /vr/ and other boards the Neo Geo was one of the easiest systems to emuate at a very accurate level due to an uncomplicated hardware design. The games didn't use that many tricks like console systems needed to in order to squeeze as much power out as possible and chips making up the system were all common non-proprietary stuff.

If I am wrong I would be interested in knowing why.

>> No.9263495

>>9263419
No, your take is pretty accurate. It really is just a cheap 68k and a Z80 co-processing and handling sound duty.

>> No.9263502
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>>9262916
>4-dimensional graphics
Never fails to make me lol.
Also, I'll ask here since every time I try to make a thread about it, jannies report it to mods for some reason (despite being totally retro-related), but just WHAT is the deal with Dion? Did he really flood the US Neo Geo market with repros? What's the QRD on him? All I know is that he was sort of like the american representartive/official import guy of Neo Geo/SNK and he hated fighting games or video games in general, he was more about living the yuppie lifestyle and the ridiculous high price of the Neo Geo attracted him.
Also that he used to hang out with Reggie Fils-Aime when they were young.

>> No.9263505

>>9263502
I can't tell if this is a shitpost or an actual retard.

>> No.9263507

>>9263505
why?

>> No.9263513

>>9263413
I'm ancient and I don't even know what a neo geo cost. I don't even think they were sold in Australia.

>> No.9263536
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>>9263507
Because Dion didn't flood any market with repros. He *tried* to flood the market with "Freaked" games. In other words, he shredded the original manuals and inserts for games he was reselling and replaced them with reprinted "Neo Geo Freaks" (Dion and his partner Chris' shady NG sales company, deliberately named after the Japanese magazine in an attempt to seem more legitimate) branded crap. Anything that couldn't be reprinted got an "official" Neo Geo Freaks anti-tamper sticker slapped on it. Pic related.

If Dion is going to be remembered for anything, it's going to be the collective fuckups that were "Neo Geo Freaks" as a company. Putting aside all the other stupid shit they did over the years, the company itself was a weird sort of MLM thing, pushed toward gullible idiots looking to be part of an "exclusive" club. As in, you couldn't just buy whatever you wanted from them, even if they had it for sale. You had to buy X amount of games/merch from a lower "tier" in order to be eligible to buy games/merch from the next higher tier. There were other equally bizarre rules you had to follow, but this post is already too long for the average chantard.

Also, that isn't Reggie in that pic, nor do the two know each other. You're either a shitposting retard or you got meme'd on by the local kiddos on /vr/.

>> No.9263541

>>9263015
No, it wasn't.

>> No.9263547

>>9263541
Wrong. https://youtu.be/gWVmPtr9O0g

>> No.9263636

>>9263536
holy shit that's insane.
and no I'm not shitposting, that's just what I heard... thanks for clarifying.
and that does look like reggie a lot, I think it's him.

>> No.9263646

>>9263636
>holy shit that's insane.
No, what's insane is that you had to spend thousands of dollars to work your way up the tiers to have the chance of obtaining "Big Tymer" [sic] status. This is literally spending thousands in order to earn the privilege of spending thousands more, complete with limo rides and Vegas hookers. Quite the operation those two had going. Thankfully, only a few suckers ever actually fell for it, and I don't think anyone ever became a bona fide "Big Tymer" (at least no one has ever been willing to admit to it).
>I think it's him.
You think wrong, shitposting retard.

>> No.9263648

>>9263536
>post is already too long for the average chantard
no tell me more i'm interested now

>> No.9263650

>>9262590
>NOOOO WHERE ARE MY HECKIN JARPIGS

>> No.9263653

>>9263646
>No, what's insane is that you had to spend thousands of dollars to work your way up the tiers to have the chance of obtaining "Big Tymer" [sic] status. This is literally spending thousands in order to earn the privilege of spending thousands more, complete with limo rides and Vegas hookers. Quite the operation those two had going. Thankfully, only a few suckers ever actually fell for it, and I don't think anyone ever became a bona fide "Big Tymer" (at least no one has ever been willing to admit to it).
I have no idea about any of this but I'm itching to hear more. What the fuck is NG Freaks and what was the hustle? Were they trying to buy up all the original carts and then replace them with repros or some shit? Give us the QRD.

>> No.9263657

>>9263650
who are you quoting?

>> No.9263670

>>9263646
>You think wrong, shitposting retard.
It's him. it's reggie.

>> No.9263672

>>9263650
>jarpig
Hi, /vg/ kid. Emulating Neo Geo now?

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>>9263648
There are so many stories to tell. How about the time they claimed to have a working proto for Last Odyssey that they were going to show off at the upcoming trade show? Turns out it was a VCR hidden under the table playing prerecorded footage with a visible Neo Geo on the table that wasn't actually hooked up to the TV that no one was allowed to touch. Or the time Dion tried to sell his baby blue Porsche on eBay autos and got caught for shill bidding when it was discovered he was having Chris make fake bids on his own account? Or the time Dion met his childhood hero Donald Trump and they spent a few hours discussing the finer points of business? Pic related.

>>9263653
>What the fuck is NG Freaks and what was the hustle?
I've already explained the hustle. There wasn't much more to it, other than the ambiguously gay duo occasionally conning some piece of SNK/Neo Geo lore away from its original owner to be thrown up on a high tier for sale to the right sucker. Although this did end up backfiring on Chris at least once. He had gone to Japan to acquisition (read: blatantly steal) leftover merchandise/memorabilia from when Neo Geo World finally closed. He came back to the states with, and I can't make this shit up, SNK stamped bar soap from the restrooms, SNK branded floor mats, bath house towels, and a couple of really gaudy statues of Mai Shiranui. All of these were seized before he could sell them off by the LVPD as part of an ongoing lawsuit SNK had against both him and the company. (For the record, he wanted 25 grand a piece for the floor mats.)

>> No.9263689

>>9262668
>>Exceptionally long lifespan

artificially supported by one developer
print runs of later games ranged from a few thousand for the japanese to only a few hundred copies for americans

the neo geo cd was also a ginormous flop despite being much more affordable

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>>9263670
No, it isn't, and it's going to be hilarious when you learn enough of the history behind these shady fucks to realize who that actually is.

>> No.9263691

>>9263686
>I've already explained the hustle.
You said he didn't flood the market with repros, he flooded it with "Freaks" shit. You're leaving out some critical details here. Was he effectively just buying and rebranding actual NG carts, or what? Spoonfeed us the story from A-Z so we have an actual documentation of it. I'm legitimately curious.

>> No.9263701

>>9263541
I posted two contemporary Mega Drive games earlier in the thread that used polygons without special auxiliary hardware. Why post here if you can't be bothered to read the thread, dumb fuck?

>> No.9263707

>>9262695
the CD variant got one, Samurai Spirits RPG

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>>9263691
I'm not sure how else I can explain it.
>Was he effectively just buying and rebranding actual NG carts, or what?
Yes, that's exactly what they were doing. They were buying carts, in bulk, from SNK (under an exclusivity deal for some titles, as if it wasn't bad enough) and then removing and shredding the inserts to be replaced with their own reprinted NGF branded stuff, which they referred to as "corrected" inserts. The manuals that didn't get shredded and reprinted got anti-tamper NGF branded stickers slapped all over them to make sure they couldn't be put back to their original condition without defacing them.

I'm not sure where the confusion is coming from, but when I say "shredding" I don't mean that as hyperbole or as a euphemism for anything. I quite literally mean they were shredding official SNK products and replacing them with their own. We know this because they flat out told us they were doing so, and then proceeded to post extensive photographic proof of the claim on their website. All of that product is forever lost.

>> No.9263723

>>9263717
I can't get over how much Dion looks like Joe Rogan on the right.

>> No.9263727

>>9263717
I'm not trying to be a dick, but you're telling the story in disconnected parts, which is why I want a full rundown. This story is interesting enough that it deserves an autistic essay post so we have the full picture. But let me get this straight: this guinea had some kind of relationship with SNK at one time, got hold of SNK games and merch and then tried to rebrand the shit as a higher value commodity? I don't get the point though, why bother destroying the stuff? If anything he'd just hoard the real shit in a warehouse or something and flood the market with his rebranded trash; destroying it seems pointless. Was he just trying to control the entire flow of SNK hardware and merch and banking on some big nostalgia drip? I have a hard time believing anyone could be retarded enough to think this would work, but I'm intrigued.

>> No.9263735

>>9263717
What was the point of the whole thing?
Why antagonize your customer base in this way?

>> No.9263736

>>9263727
If he had saved all the manuals and flyers that would be worth a small (perhaps even medium sized) fortune by now.

>> No.9263750

>>9263686
>they spent a few hours discussing the finer points of business
that sounds like bullshit. scrumper doesn't have time to talk about video games.

>> No.9263763

>>9263727
>This story is interesting enough that it deserves an autistic essay post so we have the full picture.
I agree, but I'm not the autist to do it. Bad enough I lived through it, although thankfully I never ran face first into an NGF scam.
>this guinea had some kind of relationship with SNK at one time
Their claim, and this was "sort of" corroborated by the SNK of the time, was that NGF were the "exclusive distributors of SNK Neo Geo products" for the North American market. Trying to unpack this claim is what muddies the waters. It's obvious that NGF did have some sort of agreement with SNK, but it's all but guaranteed that agreement wasn't what NGF was claiming. The problem is that no one seems to know what that actual agreement was. It's been speculated that they had procured distribution rights to a number of AES titles, and nothing more. They were making it sound like they were basically the North American division of SNK, with all the rights and benefits that would entail.
>got hold of SNK games and merch and then tried to rebrand the shit as a higher value commodity?
There was no try. They did it. (KOF 2000 sticks out in my memory as a particularly egregious example. Are there any original non-Freaked US AES copies of this game in existence? I don't actually think there are.)
>I don't get the point though, why bother destroying the stuff?
To legitimize the company and the multi-layer sales scheme they were pushing to their customer base. I don't really think they were thinking far enough ahead to realize that destroying the originals was a poor choice. I think, in their minds, they just wanted to make sure that only the NGF branded stuff could ever exist going forward. A guarantee that someone with a hookup couldn't ever undervalue an NGF branded product by possessing an authentic SNK one. They figured the easiest way to accomplish this was to simply make sure no authentic product existed.

cont.

>> No.9263773

>>9263727
>Was he just trying to control the entire flow of SNK hardware and merch and banking on some big nostalgia drip?
Yes, but I don't think some future nostalgia trip/NG renaissance was in their plans. Again, I don't think they were thinking that far ahead. If they were, they wouldn't have destroyed the originals. They would've realized the long term investment possibility in selling those off years later.
> I have a hard time believing anyone could be retarded enough to think this would work, but I'm intrigued.
Neither of them are particularly bright.

>> No.9263780

>>9263735
>Why antagonize your customer base in this way?
Because they saw the Neo Geo customer base and the Neo Geo Freak customer base as two VERY different groups of people. They were quite vocal about this over the years, likely in an attempt to add to the exclusive club mentality they were trying to foster with the multi-tiered Big Tymer schtick. Not to mention that they knew what they were doing, and realized that if you didn't fall for the scam already then you were never going to, and thus would never be one of their customers.

>> No.9264750

>>9263390
PS1 was great, but PS2 is compatible with almost all of the software and hardware so it's redundant.
SNES was not as good, let alone better. Genesis was about even with SNES.

>> No.9264756

>>9263780
It must have been miserable to be a Western SNK/Neo Geo collector since...well, forever, I guess. But to think all this fuckery was going on twenty years ago and longer. This asshole and his operation must have ruined and altered thousands of titles for a classic console before it had even finished its run.

>> No.9264813

>>9263750
I think that's code for "doing shitloads of coke"

>> No.9264824 [DELETED] 

>>9262821
>the only reason it gets so much dickriding is the cost prohibited elitism.
the elitism around the home system was engineered on purpose in the west at the time to justify the prices and to justify higher and higher prices for newfags to offload unsold stock (see: NGF old tymer), and of course people still went with it after SNK went bust for their own benefit. It's the prime reference for price manipulation, but let newfags give oldfags their retirement money, I don't give a fuck if people are this dumb.

>> No.9264945
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>>9262695
this

>> No.9265037

>>9262563
muh arcade gaems

>> No.9265213

>>9262668
what is this NEC console?

>> No.9265269

>>9265213
tg16/pce

>> No.9265278

>>9262590

No shitty, but yes. Too arkadey and same.

>> No.9265931

>>9264756
The really sad part is that the damage was done and, at some point along the way, we just accepted it as the way things are, NGF stickers and all.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/264401750381

>> No.9265957

>>9263689
>artificially supported by one developer
>"artificially supported"
>it doesn't count because... it just doesn't ok!?!?

>> No.9266093

>>9265957
its like saying the atari 2600 lasted till 1991, when it completely faded from irrelevance after the early 80s

no one was buying neo geo aes games

>> No.9266759
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9266759

>>9262563
>just arcade games

>> No.9266772

Best home console technicaly for fighters and shooters since it was the only system capable of providing identical arcade experience.But overall, very bad cost performance and poor library. SNES was a better system for everything else.
source: Owned an AES and SNES both on day one.

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>>9266772
>Best home console technicaly for fighters and shooters since it was the only system capable of providing identical arcade experience
It's the best home console for genres that actually matter. Fighters, shooters, puzzlers, sports, nice quick and snappy games that are easy to learn and difficult to 1cc. Games that actually respect your time and intelligence. Games you can pick up and put down when you're busy being an actual adult, something many of the posters here wouldn't know shit about.

>But overall, very bad cost performance
Get a job.

>and poor library
Get some taste. RPGs are for literal FAGGOTS who have nothing else going on in their sad little lives. Not everyone has time to sit there tapping a single button watching numbers go up. Some of us have careers, families, chores, volunteering, other hobbies. I'll be DAMNED if some faggot kid is going to try to tell me the Neo Geo's library wasn't top of the line.

>SNES was a better system for everything else
You're seriously comparing that underpowered ugly purple and gray piece of shit children's toy to the fucking Neo Geo? The LITERAL arcade experience vs muddy colors, low-animation sprites without proper sprite scaling, SHIT music samples, pathetic resolution, some Fisher-Price controller, and no memory card? Are you out of your mind? Are you by chance a functional retard? Even the Genesis poops on it, and at that point it's like arguing over who gets the table scraps.

This is a Neo Geo thread. Don't bring up that toddler trash ever again.

>> No.9267401

>>9267383
>he posted all this on a 4chan board while for real thinking he's better than anyone

You need therapy l. Leave this site immediately and get some help.

>> No.9267407

>>9267401
>You need therapy
Therapy is for faggots, women, and retards. You happen to tick 2 of those 3 boxes.

>Leave this site immediately and get some help
I won't. Based on your incredibly feminine whining, I do feel pretty safe in saying I'm better than you. Just like the Neo Geo is better than anything posted here so far.

>> No.9267451

>>9267383
>muh grafix
it's been 3 decades anon

>> No.9267551

>>9267407
>this much mad

I bet you're also mad about the mermaid. Go outside

>> No.9267574

>>9267383
cringe

>> No.9267606

>>9267407
Different anon, but whining isn't exclusive to females.
>therapy is for faggots women, and retards
How would you know, Mr. douchebag fuckball.
Oh so fucking elitist dipshit you are.

>> No.9267685
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9267685

>>9267451
>it's been 3 decades anon
3 decades of utter beauty that to this day still have not been surpassed. Show a little respect.

>I bet you're also mad about the mermaid. Go outside
You seem to be conflating "mad" with "calling a retard a retard." When you reprimand your son (provided you'll ever breed), does that make you "mad"? Furthermore, I was just outside earlier and I don't know what you mean by mermaid.

>>9267574
>cringe
Agreed, it is quite cringe watching adults with the mentality of children attempt to talk down about one of the top 5 greatest game systems ever conceived.

>>9267606
>Different anon, but whining isn't exclusive to females.
Indeed, the intellectual invalids here do quite a bit of that.
>How would you know, Mr. douchebag fuckball.
It's called having a life. Personal experience. Wisdom. One day you'll get there too, maybe.
>Mr. douchebag fuckball
>elitist dipshit
I don't take kindly to these unnecessary insults. Dollars to doughnuts, you haven't had the true Neo Geo experience at home with your own AES, two controllers, library of killer games, and drinking buddies trying to pull off a 1cc on Metal Slug X.
Get a job and some friends, then you'll see things my way.

>> No.9267693

>>9266759
no pulstar
no blazing star

why even fucking live

>> No.9267762

>>9267685
It's funny you think you're the only one here with a career, family, etc. and that it somehow elevates your poorly informed opinion about a console that most people will never hear of. Cry and rage.

>> No.9267770

>>9267762
Reminds me of the dimwits that always scream I GOT KIDS I GOT BILLS at the slightest criticism as if no one else has the same.

>> No.9267784

>>9267770
Yeah, honestly if you need that kind of shit to back up your arguments about video games of all things then maybe your opinions are kinda retarded

>> No.9267791

>>9267685
Neo Geo didn't even have the best arcade graphics at release. Seethe & cope

>> No.9267815

>>9262575
You didn't name the only great Neo Geo game. Puzzle Bobble

>> No.9267826

>>9262770
>Not even better than the NES.
The Famicom is easily the best console of all time, so that's not much of an insult

>> No.9267892

>>9267383
>Not everyone has time to sit there tapping a single button watching numbers go up.
fuckin amen, brother

>> No.9267941

>>9262563
What the fuck did it even offer other than better graphics? The framerate wasn't even good, Metal Slug drops frames like bug sprays. Imagine getting one of these with a single game for one thousand fucking dollars. It sold like SHIT for a reason.

>> No.9268218

>>9267685
Riding Hero is a truly awful game. The Neo Geo library sucks.

>> No.9268329
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ITT: angry little kiddos get triggered hard by some random faggot larping as a boomer.

>> No.9268627

These neo geo threads on here are full of narcissistic butthurt. Every single time. Get fucking over it. You ll never own a neo geo.

>> No.9268645

>>9268627
I wouldn't own a neo geo for free.

>> No.9268707

>>9268627
>You ll never own a neo geo.
Why would I want to when I can just play the games for free? Or rent a play session for a quarter in the arcades?

Also: a Neo Geo MVS is like $100. Wow, that's some richfag territory there, huh?

>> No.9268725

>>9268329
>boomer
Boomers didn't fucking play videogames, dumbest generational. No fucking old fart who was born in the 40s/50s played videogames.
PEOPLE WHO FUCKING WAS IN THEIR TEENS AND EARLY TWENTIES IN THE 80s/90s ARE FUCKING GENERATION X, CHILDREN. STOP SHOWING YOUR IGNORANCE.
And yes, I'm GenX. And almost no one actually had a fucking NeoGeo as a console, we played it in the fucking arcades. The console and its games were too fucking expensive.

>> No.9268762

>>9268707
>Neo Geo MVS is like $100
Less than that.
I did some checking around

Basic Cbox Supergun $30 shipped
Basic Neo Geo 1 slot $50 shipped
2x Cbox Saturn-clone controllers $27 shipped

So not just the MVS itself but the whole set-up can be assembled for less than $100 minus a game to play. Which should be a 161-in-1 cart for $60.