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Anonymous Sat Sep 10 02:25:42 2022 No.9246764 [Reply] [Original]

How did they create such a masterpiece??

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 02:27:48 2022 No.9246768 They didn't write it in assembly, they wrote it in SOUL

Anonymous Sat Sep 10 02:33:47 2022 No.9246782

>>9246764
It's a pretty generic RPG, to be honest.
>"Inspired" (copy-pasted) by real life cultures and locations.
>Greek theory of elements.
>Djinni that are just padding for your characters' levels: mixing them gives different psynergies but matching a character with his/her attuned djinni gives the best benefits.
>The Black Orb/Lemurian ship plothole in TLA
>Run-of-the-mill turn based combat.
I played it and enjoyed it, but it doesn't have a lot going on compared to other games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 02:45:14 2022 No.9246805 It wasn't that good and also really short

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 02:47:10 2022 No.9246808 it's a bit bland

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 02:55:22 2022 No.9246826 It was incredibly fucking bad and I have no idea how anyone could like it beyond "it was my first rpg".

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 02:56:26 2022 No.9246830 >>9246782 >matching a character with his/her attuned djinni gives the best benefits. It actually gives the worst results, but the game is so piss easy it doesn't matter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 02:57:28 2022 No.9246832 >>9246830 Any particular combos you think are the best?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 03:02:29 2022 No.9246841 >>9246782 >>9246805 >>9246808 >>9246826 I guess I should replay it, but I had absolute great memories replaying the fuck out of this game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 03:13:58 2022 No.9246856 >>9246832 In general you want to give them multiple djinni of types OTHER than their attuned one for the best results.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 04:20:38 2022 No.9246959 >>9246764 Isaac should've been in Smash

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 04:23:10 2022 No.9246960 >>9246841 i like it. i got it when it came out and played the shit out of it. it's worth playing. but a lot of it is just really generic. also it ends halfway through the story.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 18:54:16 2022 No.9248298 cutscene the video game trash

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 19:11:04 2022 No.9248341 File: 6 KB, 217x201, co.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9246782 >>The Black Orb/Lemurian ship plothole in TLA tell me more.

Anonymous Sat Sep 10 19:26:46 2022 No.9248371

Guys do you remember that scene fairly early on where you have to fetch a thing for the bad guys in the room.
I forget the names of everyone, and the thing they want you to get.
But they essentially send you across the room to go get a thing, and once you give it to them, they go "Oh and you have to get the other one."
Again, in the same room.
And they thought you knew you already had to do it, and you don't want to, and you complain about having to do it.
The entire conversation takes so long, that you could've done it in that time.
Eventually you submit. And go get it.
This adds nothing to the gameplay, you're not taught anything new.
You just did an extra errand you didn't want to do.

All of this would be hilarious if it was intentional.
Like legit one of the funniest things that was ever in an RPG.
But only if it was intentional.
And you can be forgiven for thinking so, because of how early in the game this is.
And then you realize this problem never gets any better.
All the cutscenes are insanely overwrought, worse than MGS codec calls.
And for that reason, Golden Sun is a fucking horror show.
To say it drags, would be a slight at rusty hooks.

And to top it all off it's a TO BE CONTINUED rpg. I didn't even know that was legal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 19:28:20 2022 No.9248375 File: 89 KB, 303x236, bugs2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9246959 He is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 19:39:04 2022 No.9248402 >>9246959 You mean Felix, the real hero

Anonymous Sat Sep 10 19:42:15 2022 No.9248407

Don’t know why so many people hate the game and shit the breads for the people who loved GS. The critique about the game being generic is incomprehensible to me, and I have played Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, and whatnot. That the combat is easy is just how jrpgs work, except DQ which is more grindy that hard.

On the other hand, GS had fantastic dungeons, great puzzles in towns, unbeatable ost, collecting and using djinns was way better than collecting invokables in FF. Big variety of special weapons with its own animations and graphics. Combat visuals btfo any jrpg than I’m aware.

Some people accuse gs fan of being ignorant on the genre, but I wonder if the people who shit on the game are resented because they didn’t have the chance of playing such a wonderful game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 19:43:47 2022 No.9248412 >UGH WORLD BUILDING >UGH LENGTHY DUNGEONS >UGH EPIC JOURNEY WITH CHARACTER ARCS AND BUILD UP TO BOSS FIGHTS Only legitimate complaint I’ve seen is the simplified combat, which is hardly a component of a good rpg.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 19:48:05 2022 No.9248419 >>9248371 Do you remember after you beat the coliseum? It never ends. I don't even remember anything they said. It's like 15 minutes of dialog if you button mash it. My god.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 19:49:34 2022 No.9248420 >>9248412 The combat has elements of being interesting such as classes. Element mixing of djinn, attack ranges but none of it ever matters.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 19:51:29 2022 No.9248425 It is an ok RPG that ends without any closure. Buy the sequal. Fuck Golden Sun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 20:02:52 2022 No.9248449 >>9248412 >wolrd building lol >epic journey lol >character arcs lol >build up to boss fights turbo lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 10 20:10:23 2022 No.9248483 >>9248407 Pretty sure the people that shit on it did play it, otherwise they wouldn't know what it's like.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 01:00:22 2022 No.9249074 >>9248449 What a niggerdly response, try harder next time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 01:08:29 2022 No.9249087 >>9249074 He's right though.

Anonymous Sun Sep 11 03:38:52 2022 No.9249395

>>9248341
It's just an oversight from the devs: Isaac's party join Felix and Co. but they don't have their ship, which they get at the end of 1. It could have been stolen, not needed anymore having the one from Felix's group or any other reason the cause of this.
If you transfer all the info from 1 to 2 with a golden pasword/link, though, Isaac still holds the black orb, meaning that the ship they got from Babi should be docked somewhere but unable to move.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 04:56:08 2022 No.9249506 >>9248419 I saw it in a longplay. Yes. I know exactly what you're talking about.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 05:24:42 2022 No.9249535 Could I please get a quick rundown on why Dark Dawn isn't good? I haven't played it and didn't pay a lot of attention to it on release.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 05:35:02 2022 No.9249546 >>9249087 >He's right though lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 05:38:49 2022 No.9249550 >>9249535 It's basically the two first games except the people that played it weren't ten year olds playing their first RPG anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 05:41:54 2022 No.9249553 >>9246764 pic unrelated?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 05:45:54 2022 No.9249556 >>9246782 >compared to other games. What games?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 05:49:03 2022 No.9249557 >>9249535 it took the slow pace and wordiness of the first 2 and cranked it to 11

Anonymous Sun Sep 11 05:51:04 2022 No.9249562

Also the same people that whine about JRPGs being too samey and long are the ones that'll play Elder Scrolls 6: Hyrule and wander the lands for 150+ hours killing bokoblins for that 14th ruby to add to their collection.

Yeah no shit. Games are all the same.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 05:57:44 2022 No.9249574 >>9249562 What?

Anonymous Sun Sep 11 06:13:05 2022 No.9249609

>>9249574
What what? I can't say because mentioning modern games gets you a warning here now despite you comparing modern games to older ones.
Figure it out. Here's a clue: TES: Hyrule is the greatest game of all time! Golden Sun is copy-pasta* same shit JRPG tho.

*assholes saying this NEVER provide what JRPG is similar to the Golden Sun games

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 08:47:58 2022 No.9249813 File: 14 KB, 480x471, iknow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9249535 super easy puzzles

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 08:55:12 2022 No.9249819 >>9246764 It sucked

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 13:22:20 2022 No.9250137 >>9249609 It's great that golden sun is a little unique, it's a shame it does nothing with that uniqueness because it could have been pretty fun to distract from the awful cutscenes

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 13:57:21 2022 No.9250201 >>9248407 I played GS when it came out in 2001. It sucked ass.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 14:05:13 2022 No.9250225 >>9246856 There's a handful of base classes that are better than the mixed class equivalents, but its a pretty good rule of thumb.

Anonymous Sun Sep 11 14:10:46 2022 No.9250238

>>9249557
Golden Sun is supposedly much less verbose in the JP version. The first two games also aren't that slow, they're also somehow harder than Dark Dawn which has like two fights in the game that can possibly kill you and one of them is recycled from TLA so everyone knows his gimmick already.

The actual problem with Dark Dawn is that you spend an entire game addressing everything except for the core plot and then it decides to hijack the story with some furfag's waifu.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 17:15:38 2022 No.9250586 >>9249557 How is that POSSIBLE It was already was bad as I could imagine

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 11 17:57:04 2022 No.9250684 >>9249535 Despite being a game on a single cartridge the game starts arbitrarily locking you out of certain areas. Not just "the end of the world has begun" stuff but, "you crossed this mountain" or "you entered this cave 3 hours in".

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:10:11 2022 No.9252354 >>9249609 >*assholes saying this NEVER provide what JRPG is similar to the Golden Sun games Beyond The Beyond

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 13:17:18 2022 No.9252863 >>9250238 >The actual problem with Dark Dawn is that you spend an entire game addressing everything except for the core plot still not seeing how that's any different from the first 2

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:37:25 2022 No.9253053 >>9246764 Love everything about it except the dialogue is pretty atrocious and redundant at times

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:47:48 2022 No.9253068 Nintendo really said: "We are making too many good games like this, let's make Mario Party 10 to balance it out"

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:53:06 2022 No.9253076 >>9252863 See >>9249550

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 19:52:00 2022 No.9253782 >>9249535 Sets up for a sequel thats unlikely to come, introduces lots of elements/things that contradict the earlierones, still teasesyou with alex and doesn't resolve that, etc

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