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9234524 No.9234524 [Reply] [Original]

Why do people here pretend this was bad?

>> No.9234535

>>9234524
It’s the third best entry in the Super Mario 3D series.

>> No.9234537
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>>9234524
probably haven't played it in a while idk
i'd still say it's my least favorite 3d one besides 3d land/world but it's not terrible or anything, just some of the shines are and the blue coins were lame
amazing atmosphere though

>> No.9234594

>>9234524
i dont feel compelled to keep playing it

>> No.9234595

No need to pretend, it fucking stinks

>> No.9234601

>>9234524
Too short, most of the shines were just a reward for collecting blue coins, which were tedious to collect and hard to track.

Also, the reward for completing the game at 100% was just a jpeg.

>> No.9234603
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>>9234524
zoomer here. played the rerelease for switch "Super Mario 3D All Stars"

>>9234595
>it fucking stinks
can confirm. its fucking banjo spyro donkey kong 64 style garb. adding 1d to mario was a mistake.

> can even wet tee peach
pass

>> No.9234616

>>9234601
I liked it but I agree that there's no reason to 100% it. Just isn't worth it.

>> No.9234678

It's the only mainline Mario game that I ever stopped playing halfway through because I didn't like it that much. I can't remember why exactly though. The blue coins were part of it, I know that. Today, I can't call it a bad game because I don't remember it well enough. But the evidence suggests that it has something wrong with it.

>> No.9234786

>>9234524
Don't have to pretend shit when the game has JUST 8 fully fledged levels and filler up the ass with red AND blue coins.It pales vastly in comparison to it's predecesor.

>> No.9234821

>>9234524
The problem is the blue coins. There was obviously cut content (corona mountain was cut short) and the fact that you got nothing special for all the blue coins. At least in 64 it was actual content, even if it was shorter, and you got to see yoshi and get 50 lives. They should have added a final chapter after all blue coins were collected, like a hard mode.

>> No.9234912

>>9234535
>any Mario in 3D
>good
pick one

>> No.9235009

Test

>> No.9235062
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Lots of talk about blue coins ITT

>> No.9235507

it's a cozy summer game, but not the next step in mario. You have to want to be there, otherwise youll have trouble in paradise. Some shines are BULLSHIT, take it slow. It's a great game.

>> No.9235512

>>9234524
>every level is a beach.

Such variety

>> No.9235516

>>9235512
>Rollercoaster theme park
>Ship port
>Windmill hills
>Fungi Jungles
>Proto-galaxy levels
nah it had pretty decent variety

>> No.9235524

>>9234524
It’s not bad, it’s bad relative to other mainline Mario games. There’s a high bar that wasn’t lived up to. It’s still good compared to most other 3D platformers.

It would be a “hidden gem” if they replaced Mario and friends with a different set of mascots.

>> No.9235605

Is the second best 3d Mario game
But only the hidden levels are fun without the water thing of course

>> No.9235617

>>9234524
Latent frustration that Nintendo couldn’t just make Mario 64 2, caused by whatever fucking brain disease stops them from just making another normal fucking Star Fox game

>> No.9235632

>>9235524
Would'f made a dope Rosco McQueen game, if they swapped the liquid shit for fire

>> No.9235636

I honeslty forgot this game even existed

>> No.9235638

Do they? I mostly see praise for Sunshine. Most people prefer 64 though, but I disagree.

>> No.9235640

>>9234524
It's really bad, that's why.

>> No.9235646

>>9234821
>There was obviously cut content
What is it with the schizo's on this board who constantly discover 'cut content'? Every entertainment product has cut content, it's what makes a product good rather than bad.

>> No.9235654

>>9234678
>>9234821
Nobody cares about the blue coins you fucking autists. It's a side mission for people who want to 100%. Why bitch about extra content they easily could have left out?

>> No.9235659

>>9234524
People here pretend everything is bad, you'll hear the same things about 64 or Galaxy

>> No.9235672

>>9235659
>liking wii shit
Go back to /v/

>> No.9235674

>>9235632
They should have let Slippery Snake Studio handle development on this game. It’s time for Nintendo to step aside and let some real talent have at it…

>> No.9235709

>>9234821
>muh yoshi and 50 lives

didn't sunshine give you a hawaiian shirt and sunglasses if you got all the shine sprites.

>> No.9235719

>>9234524
because it was completely outclassed by mario 64, which was a system seller and one of the greatest games ever made. nothing but a disappointment in comparison.

>> No.9235748

fludd is fundamentally a shitty gimmick and the whole game is built around it instead of it just being a sparse powerup. Blue coins

>> No.9235780

>>9234524
It tried to do things differently after a previously hugely succesful game.
Same shit happened with FFVIII after FFVII.

>> No.9235784

>>9235780
FFVII is shit though, unlike Mario 64

>> No.9235785

>>9234603
>zoomer here
immediately everything you say is invalid. hadyou put that at the end i would have at least read your comment (and probably thought you were retarded anyway, because you are) but would have at least read it. since you put that at the beginning though, i didn't have to go through that

>> No.9235798

>>9234603
let me guess, you think odyssey is the best game in the series
go back to /v/
>wet tee peach
zoomers are so fucking disturbed why do you have to make everything sexualized to enjoy it

>> No.9235852

>>9234535
fpbp

>> No.9235859
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Why do you pretend it isn't massively flawed and was clearly rushed out the door? FLUDD gets shoved in your face, but is ultimately very underutilized. There are less worlds than its predecessor. It poorly balances open worlds with platforming gauntlets by having them be completely separate for most of the game unlike 64 which managed to incorporate platforming into stages that didn't even have bottomless pits. It's more restrictive since Shines have to be done in order since every 7th where you "chase" Shadow Mario is mandatory. It has one of the shittiest Bowser fights in the entire Mario series. 1/5 of the game's star equivalent requires blue coins. The "hardest" levels people bring up are infamous due to things like garbage physics (sand bird, pachinko, leaf boat), not actual platforming.

Best spin jump though. Really fun to do.

>> No.9235910

>>9234524
It was fun, great little hub world.
I mean sure it ain't the great breaking first feelings of Mario 64 or the epic visuals, music and scope of Mario Odessey, but it's still a solid Mario 3D game, I think it's better than the Galaxy duo

>> No.9236005

>>9234524
This game along with Wind Waker and Twilight Princess killed Nintendo for me. I never bought or played another game from them since.
I was tired of being dissapointed, when the N64 gave us Mario and Zelda games that were considered the best games of all time. The GameCube ones weren't even half as good. They were such a step backwards, and it was little shit in these games that should have been fixed in beta testing, but it made it to release. Just pure laziness. In the 90s Nintendo's AAA games were so good you didn't even need to look up reviews. You just bought it. People need to have standards for these games like Nintendo used to have. It's the only way we will get a proper 3D Zelda again, or a 3D Mario.

>> No.9236020

>>9236005
Based. GameCube era Nintendo was terrible.

>> No.9236030

>>9235654

Because they didn't leave it out, obviously.

>> No.9236340

>>9236020
Don't you talk that way about my Pikmin

>> No.9236509

>>9235646
it's pretty obvious that corona mountain and the final boss were rushed, that's why they got the janitor to do bowser's voice

>> No.9236665

>>9234524
It has a very soulful atmosphere, but the level design is mediocre and it has a lot of rough edges. The FLUDD somehow manages to feel limiting both when you're wearing it AND when it's removed from you.

It just feels too much like a weird spinoff than the next mainline Mario game.

>> No.9236681

I LOVE this game. But it is heavily flawed due to obvious padding:

>overabundance of Shadow Mario chase missions
>overabundance of Red coins (to be fair Super Mario 64 as similar)
>Blue coin hunt

Then there's Corona Mountain being unfinished

>> No.9236682

>>9234524
I don't know why they didn't have the game autosave when you got a blue coin. Having that plain dialog box pop up asking you to save made it seem like you did something wrong and took you out of the game.

>> No.9236774

>>9235709
nah there's just some guy who gives you that if you talk to him after 30 shines. After you beat bowser you get the shirt.

>> No.9236779

>>9235859
mario 64 had bottomless pits, most levels were literally a giant bottomless pit

>> No.9236795

>>9235798
>zoomers are so fucking disturbed why do you have to make everything sexualized to enjoy it
because they were raised by internet porn

>> No.9238660

>>9234524
No Nintendo made Mario game is technically bad, it's all just a taste thing if you don't like it.

>> No.9238796

>>9236795
>>9235798
Explain #BanFridayNightFuckin then.
They're as prude as you are.

>> No.9239078
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>> No.9239192

>>9239078
do u think that yoshi gets embarrassed when he poos out eggs in front of mario??? sorry if this ofends anyone but i thought it was a funny thing haha. and i would like to know if any of you have any pics of yoshi pooping an egg while he looks nervous or embarrassed i just want to see it for a few laughs haha. another thing i am wondering is what do you think the eggs smell like haha im just curious for laughs haha i would like to smell them

>> No.9239197

https://youtu.be/odrrumX00c4

It's only good in co-op

>> No.9239443
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>be Nintendo designer guy
>create your own special funny haha inflation fetish character as a boss fight in the newest Mario game
>your bosses love it so much he becomes a recurring character in the series
>he never inflates again
>instead they make his gimmick vomiting all over the place

>> No.9239448
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>>9239443
anon i'm pretty sure what happened to petey was worse than a mere fetish, picrel
also apparently he's a species in japan not one character

>> No.9239453

>>9239443
>>9239448
Mario localizers had this weird ass trend of giving full personal names to species, no matter how goddamn obvious it is that it's not a singular character
>let's call this mole Monty Mole
>what do you mean you're encountering 5 of them at once the first time they appear, of course it's one guy

>> No.9239469

>>9234524
Fuck fludd

>> No.9239550

I got stuck on it very early on in 2001 and quit

>> No.9239571

>>9235798
Honestly man, when I was a newfag here offering perspective on games I would open with "zoomer here" to try to give an unbiased assessment on the game
Now I realize it's so narcissistic to think that my perspective is "unique" and "special" enough to warrant mentioning.

>> No.9239576

>>9234524
Mario games are fucking gay dude.

>> No.9239590

every summer I try playing this and quit after about 30 min, there's something about it that just wears out its welcome fast

>> No.9239651

>>9239590
if it helps any outside the beginning you won't have to fight any more goop pirahnas, idk why they clumped five of em together, with three in a row

>> No.9241976

>>9239453
At least Nintendo JP seemed to have adopted Kamek as an individual by NSMB.

>> No.9242024

>>9241976
Kamek is weird because the name was originally localized as "Magikoopa" and treated as a species, then with Yoshi's Island they switched to localizing it (or rather, keeping the original name) as Kamek and treating it as one guy, and ever since they've been flipping back and forth between whether there's a species called Kameks or a species called Magikoopas, one of which is named Kamek, though he looks just like all the others.

>At least Nintendo JP seemed to have adopted Kamek as an individual by NSMB.
No, it's still clearly treated as the name of a species in nip.

>> No.9242057

>>9239453
they had "boo diddley" in the us manual to mario 3, although they changed that one by world
>>9242024
too bad they didn't think up kammy koopa sooner, could've been bowser's toadsworth equivalent although ig kamek is that in partners in time

>> No.9242065

The first 2 levels and Noki Bay was good. Rest of the game sucked. Hotel level is the worst level in any Mario game

>> No.9242130

>>9234524
I especially hated it when I was younger and got a gamecube instead of the other two. I really did want a more graduated Super Mario 64, and I felt like the game was taunting me with those challenge stages. It infuriated me to the point that I wrote a letter to Nintendo (they wrote me back apologizing and I felt bad fuck off).

Thing is, it's not the worst, but I still don't particularly like it.

>> No.9243093

>>9234524
>didn't come out at GameCube release
>still ended up rushed as fuck
>less polished than 64, even accounting for 64's age at the time