/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9227535]

So Funky Kong's entire purpose in DKC1 and 2 is to give you a way to return to the world map and go back to previous stages. Apparently the concept of "pressing the B button to go to the previous menu" did not occur to Rare, despite this being something that already existed in video games at the time. So instead, they created an NPC to be used solely for this purpose.
It's really weird, but on the other hand, it gave us one of the coolest characters in the Donkey Kong series with the greatest theme song ever, so I can't complain too much.

[Anonymous No.9227541]

>>9227535
>play for an hour
>have 30 coins
>play again later
>have zero coins
>cant warp to another world unless you farm through a level for 2 banana coins

[Anonymous No.9227542]

>>9227535
Even as a 6 year old I though Funky Kong's flight service was a total scam. I seriously cant figure out why he exists.

[Anonymous No.9227559]

>>9227541
>therefore, don't warp until you have enough coins

[Anonymous No.9227625]

They didn't want you to be able to leave a new part of the map until you reached a half way point, which he serves as, otherwise people would be exploiting the save spot from the last world instead of playing up to the save point of the current world.

[Anonymous No.9227660]

>>9227625
Could've just disabled all previous save points once the player has progressed past it enough
Put up a sign or something saying "I'm off to surf some new waves in <insert next area here>, t. Funky Kong"

[Anonymous No.9227663]

>>9227535
I like it when games go out of their way to explain those little video game-y mechanics that we take for granted.

[Anonymous No.9227667]

>>9227535
l o o k i n g o o d

[Anonymous No.9227669]

>>9227667
i seriously hope you don't play /vr/ games like this

[Anonymous No.9227671]

>>9227669
i do man, looks really good on a 85 inch TV, fuck pixels.

[Anonymous No.9227681]

>>9227660
Why would the sign reference Funky Kong if he’s not the one running the save points? Not to mention he’d have no readon to exist if you could travel freely.

[Anonymous No.9227718]

>>9227559
sometimes man i just wanna jump in the game and fly over to bee world or up to gloomy gulch for a quick play and not have to remember which level has coins right in the beginning.

[Anonymous No.9227849]

>>9227681
Well hold on now. It's candy that has the save points. Funky just drops you off at her place.

[Anonymous No.9227873]

>>9227667
>funkg's

[Anonymous No.9227878]

>>9227535
Also you have to talk to all the funkys (also wrinkly and cranky) to get the 102 in dkc2. Can’t remember if the others required this it’s been too long.

[Anonymous No.9227906]

>instead of having 4th wall breaking mechanic, link said mechanic to in-game lore with added comedy value on top

>>LOL game devs are le dumb dumb they went through all that trouble and didn't even think you could do the same thing with the press of a button

(You) are the real dumb dumb here and on top of that you don't like cool things, (You) don't deserve this game.

[Anonymous No.9227923]

>>9227667
Now in CRT form!

[Anonymous No.9227925]

>>9227923
Soul

[Anonymous No.9227934]

>>9227923
that's not a crt zoomie

[Anonymous No.9227943]

>>9227923
Ah, just like I remember.

[Anonymous No.9227950]

>>9227906
>4th wall breaking mechanic
Stop, you're done. Get the fuck out and think about what you posted.

[Anonymous No.9228939]

>>9227950
Yes, I have thought about it. Getting magically teleported to another part of the game just with the press of a button and nothing more like OP is suggesting takes the player away from the game and its immersion as it is an abrupt reminder that the game is indeed a game.
Having an actual in-lore mechanic and explanation, even if it is the goddamn flutes and pipes in SMB3, is a much better alternative, and DKC went above and beyond to make it fun, funny, and dare I say, soulful.

As a consequence, hating Funky Kong is in fact, hating soul. Besides, you gotta admit the dude is lookin' good.

[Anonymous No.9228954]

>>9227535
If you were allowed to leave a world, then there's nothing stopping you from just returning to the previous world and save every single time you beat a stage, therefore cheating the game.

[Anonymous No.9228965]

>>9227535
I just noticed his medallion has the mars chocolate logo.

[Anonymous No.9228981]

>>9227541
There are two banana coins at the start of every level immediately after a Kong Kollege. You can grab them then Start+Select to exit the level.

[Anonymous No.9229236]

he's free in the donkey kong country you noobs. ya'll poor coping

[Anonymous No.9229243]

For me, it's DK64 Funky.

[Anonymous No.9229253]

>>9229243
Never looked better!

[Anonymous No.9229260]

>>9228965
funky is a fucking sellout hypocrite.

[Anonymous No.9229817]

>>9228939
>Getting magically teleported to another part of the game just with the press of a button and nothing more like OP is suggesting
It wouldn't be "magically teleporting." The map literally shows the characters walking from stage to stage. The explanation is as simple as "they walked back." Funky could have been more of a fast travel system instead of being the only way to travel for some reason.
The way you word it is like you're saying "You can't ever walk anywhere because planes exist." This makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.9229828]

>>9227535
you had to earn it.

EARN IT

[Anonymous No.9229847]

>>9229253

[Anonymous No.9230518]

>>9229253
>DK64 funky has a fat man
What did rare mean by this

[Anonymous No.9230542]

https://youtu.be/Ldtju8Py4iI

[Anonymous No.9230597]

>>9227535
The GBA version fixed most of that shit, too bad they ruined the visuals with shitty colors. Thank god for the color fix patch.

[Anonymous No.9230603]

DKC doing something completely counter-productive all for fucking looks and "cool" factor? Wow, what a concept. Kind of.. like the fucking shit gameplay.
Any single person that will say with a straight face that DKC/2/3 was good after so many actual high quality platformers on the SNES has to have severe mental issues. Rare/Nintendo's brainwashing you over their shit game was pretty damn severe, apparently.

[Anonymous No.9230616]

>>9229253
Why did he become a paramilitary preper? There was a dark chapter in Funky's life, we never saw.
>the government came for my barrel planes, man

[Anonymous No.9230663]

>>9230616
He saw Ruby Ridge and Waco on television and decided the government had no chill and was decidedly un-funky.

[Anonymous No.9230671]

>>9229253

[The guy who says saved No.9230693]

>>9230671
saved

[Anonymous No.9230813]

>>9227541
Just go to one of the many levels with a coin at the start, grab it and then push start and then select. Or just kill a boss.
I figured this shit out as a kid anon step it up

[Anonymous No.9231275]

Seems like you guys are overcomplicating this. Made sense when I played it as a 1-year old.

[Anonymous No.9231296]

>>9231275
>Made sense when I played it as a 1-year old.
Truly we've hit the apex of this particular arms race.

[Anonymous No.9231352]

>>9230671

[Joeschmoe No.9232576]

>>9227535

Send them all on a one way funky flight back to Africa

[Anonymous No.9232770]

>>9230616
It's especially weird because they just immediately abandoned it and went back to surfer Funky Kong in subsequent games.

[Anonymous No.9233278]

>>9232770
About all I can think of is Rare was trying new things with the characters, while post-Rare games decided to just do the safe thing.

[Anonymous No.9233321]

>>9233278
>>9232770
Funky was popular in Japan but their dub of the CGI cartoon skyrocketed him to fan favorite. I think it was his constant "karifo-nia engrish"

>WHATSU APPU MAH BRAZAS

[Anonymous No.9233337]

>>9233321
Oh god now I need to see this.

[Anonymous No.9233532]

>>9230597
Does it actually FIX them? How about audio?

[Anonymous No.9233728]

>>9233337
Megumi Hayashibara, god damn Lina Inverse/Rei Ayami herself, is motherfucking Diddy Kong and her husband at the time (I think?) was Donkey Kong. Make of that what you will

[Anonymous No.9234356]

>>9227535
Yeah, but it means you can't return to the world map until you find funky kong (though you can just press "left" immediately after entering the sub-world map). So it adds a little bit of pressure because you can't save until you reach either Funky or Candy.

[Anonymous No.9235515]

>>9233728
In what? Donkey Kong games don't have voice acting.

[Anonymous No.9235518]

>>9235515
The Japanese dub of the CGI cartoon, follow the conversation, man.

[Anonymous No.9235529]

>>9228939
I’d argue it’s more fourth wall breaking that the Kongs lose the ability to walk backwards until they reach Funky’s cabin, or that Funky can’t fly them directly to K. Rool himself.

Funky’s cool, though, so I can’t complain.

[Anonymous No.9235613]

>>9235529
Why didn't they just ride Funky's Flights to Mordor?

[Anonymous No.9235635]

>>9227535
>It's really weird, but on the other hand, it gave us one of the coolest characters in the Donkey Kong series with the greatest theme song ever, so I can't complain too much.
Funky is also a known sex god in circles known for being a total power bottom cumdump who withholds loads in his tight muscle ass.

[Anonymous No.9235647]

>>9235635
Seek a fire to die in, please.

[Anonymous No.9235673]

>>9227671
There are better "lookin' good" shaders than that, like xBRZ or ScaleFX.

[Anonymous No.9235925]

>>9227923

[Anonymous No.9235940]

>>9235613
They'd get intercepted by the flying Ringwraiths. Try to keep up, Frodo.

[Anonymous No.9235945]

>>9235925
aaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[Anonymous No.9235959]

>>9235925
Damn! Could the devs ever intend more?

[Anonymous No.9235998]

>>9235647
>Seek a fire to die in
Retarded comeback

[Anonymous No.9236623]

>>9232770
biking makes a man forget about all the nonbodacious dudes in the state

[Anonymous No.9236636]

>>9227535
His sunglasses aren't on right. Judging by the amount of white you can see of his right eye, the lens is just barely covering his iris.

[Anonymous No.9236678]

>>9233321
He talks like that in the games too, it's fucking hilarious. Japanese localizations of western games are usually kinda bleh, but they really fucking nailed the DKC games.

[Anonymous No.9236752]

>>9227625
>reached a half way point, which he serves as

Gorilla Glacier

[Anonymous No.9237153]

>>9236752
Ah yes, the world that taught me to go back and save before selecting it.

[Anonymous No.9237185]

>>9236678
Absolutely, probably also because it was in Nintendo's best interests to make sure this localization of a western take of one of their biggest IPs would be good. That said although you're right about the text in "Super Donkey Kong" being like that for Funky, I think the voice acting goes the extra mile. It's wonderful. I don't know which seiyuu voiced Funky, but he's the MVP of that dub (just like the Jamaican dude voicing Funky in english, truthfully).

[Anonymous No.9237206]

>>9227669
It looks better. Got a problem boomer?

[Anonymous No.9237235]

>>9237185
>I don't know which seiyuu voiced Funky, but he's the MVP of that dub
It's not a seiyuu, they got rapper Banana Ice to play him.

[Anonymous No.9237251]

>>9237235
You know what, I thought you were shitposting, toying with Vanilla Ice's name but I had to look it up.
>https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Banana_Ice
Amazing.

[Anonymous No.9237269]

>>9227671
>"fuck pixels"

you do know which board you're on right

[Anonymous No.9239074]

>>9235998
I concur.

[Anonymous No.9239831]

>>9235673
Here's a custom shader made specifically for DKC by someone by the name of Pargon if anyone wants it.
https://pastebin.com/1tu9S5EU
Just click the download button on the upper right, rename the extension to .slangp, and slip it into the main shaders folder in RetroArch (outside of the slang shaders folder, mind)

[Anonymous No.9239834]

>>9239831
Lookin' good, Kongs!

[Anonymous No.9239850]

>>9239834
I mean, it's a little blurry on my 1080p, but it looks amazing on a 4k, if the creator's own screenshots are any indication (pic related). I don't really know what else to do at this point if this really is just another Funky failure. I spent more time trying to find a shader I thought would get the job done for these games than I've probably spent playing them. I'm just giving up and waiting until 4k shit is a lot cheaper.

[Anonymous No.9239863]

>>9233337
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf58HYpn0rAiAOi_3DkEJUOa7ozOS16q8

[Anonymous No.9241087]

>>9237185
It's a shame there is clearly still some bias on Japan's side when it comes to western-developed Nintendo games, just look at how poorly Donkey Kong is treated in Smash. Even though the DKC games are easily among the best games on the SNES. Although Metroid Prime has been treated fairly well (rightfully so) so maybe Sakurai just hates Donkey Kong.

[Anonymous No.9241146]

>>9227535
>"pressing the B button to go to the previous menu"
Soulless
>Funky Kong giving you a ride
Soul

[Anonymous No.9241153]

>>9235613
Because Funky can't take you to areas you haven't already visited

[Anonymous No.9241169]

>>9241087
What's DK's issue? Although I believe Sakurai thinks of DK as still part of the Mario series and not it's own thing.

[Anonymous No.9241419]

>>9228954

this is the reason. he's here

shit head kids just want to exploit every game they find because of TAS videos & glitch hunting escapades

[Anonymous No.9241485]

>>9228954
That's not "cheating the game," that's "exposing the game as a very brief experience that was artificially padded to trap you behind trickier levels you already cleared before if you die later, in order to make it feel longer than it really is."

[Anonymous No.9241504]

>>9241485
Dude, retrogames were designed as "stretches" of challenge, just like a lap in a race. In DKC, these stretches are compromised of save point A to save point B. If you fail, it doesn't matter if it's on the beggining, middle or end, you'll redo the stretch. Even the concept of failing is very lenient; you have multiple lives and can get many more before a game over. DKC is full of bonus rooms and lives that can be collected over and over in previous stages, in which you can conveniently enter and then leave using start + select. If this isn't easy enough for you, then you'd be better spending your time with modern games.

[Anonymous No.9241521]

>>9241504
And they were designed that way because they had to make sure Little Timmy didn't blow through them in 45 minutes and make his parents mad that they spent 70 American dollars on half a movie's worth of entertainment for him. There's nothing genuine in that design philosophy, and you are mistaking a pragmatic demarcation as an offering to your god, Difficulty. It's certainly a convenient overlap in that regard, but it's not really an organic element of the game design. Just wait until you hear about how the very concept of Lives is similarly a relic from the arcade days that serves no practical purpose when coinage is removed from the equation.

[Anonymous No.9241538]

>>9241521
>offering to your god, Difficulty.
If you're talking about DKC, then it's a pretty puny god. lol

[Anonymous No.9241552]

>>9241538
This particular game's challenge owes a lot to more artificial difficulty and underhanded little tricks reminiscent of a carnival game to keep you from finishing too early. Some platforms don't visually match their actual hitboxes, for instance. There are mitigating factors, like the lives you can stockpile from earlier stages, but the very act of farming those lives is yet another way to artificially make the game longer. I don't begrudge them for doing this, but things like Funky's Flights are very much just convoluted stopgaps to slow the player down.

[Anonymous No.9241727]

>>9241552
No, it's a stopgap to keep you from saving at a prior save point. This has already been covered. You're just bad at games, and on top of that, you lack a soul.

[Anonymous No.9241737]

>>9241727
You lack reading comprehension. It stops you from saving at a prior save point in order to make the game last longer.

[Anonymous No.9241739]

>>9241737
Oh come the fuck on. Just beat a few levels and get to Funky's Flights, the game gives you a shit ton of lives.

[Anonymous No.9241740]

>>9241737
No, it stops you from saving for free at prior save points. You only rage against this because you're bad at vidya and don't have a soul.

[Anonymous No.9241784]

>>9241552
Bro, just play your Switch. Really. I'm not mocking you. I just argue that, if you think DKC is too hard and you lack the mindset to improve, then retrogaming will be purely a "get mad" experience for you. Each person has their own preferences, you don't have to like old games, regardless of what other people say.

[Anonymous No.9242190]

>>9241521
Idk maybe its just me but I loved DKC2 specifically because it was difficult. And Im not one of those GIT GUD wankers. Some games can be too unforgiving and hard. But I think games need that challenge or else they are boring and feel like they are playing themselves.

I played DKC2 before 1 and I have far more memories playing 2 because the difficulty made beating it far more accomplishing.

[Anonymous No.9242209]

>>9242190
DKC2 is one of the greatest platformers ever made. DKC1 is just a lot of smoke and mirrors. It's a completely barebones rushjob wrapped up in graphics, sound, and atmosphere so compelling you don't notice it's just a bunch of copy-pasted caves and the laziest bosses imaginable (sans the final). That fake Miyamoto quote about it being carried by its graphics is unironically accurate. It's exemplary how much they improved on that tech demo for the sequel.

[Anonymous No.9243872]

>>9227667
>>9235925
kek im convinced the normal version has to look retarded as well at this point, what a goofy looking fuck

[Anonymous No.9243901]

>>9230671
kek

[Anonymous No.9244126]

>>9227535
SOVL

[Anonymous No.9245038]

Christian Bail and Russell Crowlimony

[Anonymous No.9246102]

>>9227625
This. OP is pretty stupid.

[Anonymous No.9246213]

>>9241146
>rolled up sleeves
Is he actually a human wearing an ape costume?

[Anonymous No.9248403]

>>9246213
No, he's just wearing a t-shirt.