6th gen blues & greens

[Anonymous No.9209137]

How did we go from this to everything being brown and yellow? Post other examples

[Anonymous No.9209141]

Because every single 7th gen dev decided to use the Unreal 3 Engine

[Anonymous No.9209142]

Dawn of Mana had really good software antialiasing and colorful environments. Game itself was a frustrating techdemo.

[Anonymous No.9209148]

because westoids became the main driving force of the industry, killing it instantly.

[Anonymous No.9209151]

I don't think most 6th generation games look good. Practices got better later on, but most are kind of ugly or forgettable. Even early gen 7 graphics still look great. The technology was good enough to make concept art come alive

[Anonymous No.9209157]

>>9209148
Halo CE had some of the best colors though

[Anonymous No.9209159]

>>9209157
True. I'm sorry for shitting on Halo back in the day.

[Anonymous No.9209205]

>>9209151
Try playing more Gamecube and Dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.9209210]

>>9209137
12 year old autism about being mature, next question
can you post about something else for once
it literally stopped, like if it was still going sure i'd understand the complaint but it's not happening anymore outside the blandest of aaa games

[Anonymous No.9209216]

>>9209205

I played and I like what later games did. Still have a lot of problems in Gen 6

>bad staging
>grading is poor
>compositions are bland
>camera work is godawful

It has its charm, but it's not really that good.

[Anonymous No.9209217]

>>9209210
You should really work on your sentence structure, next-question-anon. Deciphering your posts is always a pain.

[Anonymous No.9209221]

More western devs started to find success on consoles after primarily developing on PC previously. Also the rise of Unreal Engine 3.

[Anonymous No.9209223]

>>9209216
sounds like you're a zoomer that grew up with a 360. 7th gen is the worst gen by far.

[Anonymous No.9209228]

>>9209223
Game design and graphics are better, but you can't talk about gen 7 on this board.

They even deleted my post about Super Mario Odyssey

[Anonymous No.9209230]

>>9209141
is this edited? i don't remember gow being that gray.

[Anonymous No.9209235]

>>9209228
yeah you're a zoomer, leave the board. 7th gen has awful art direction, greys and browns everywhere, low framerates across the board, screen tearing was super fucking common, westoid shovelware superseded japanese games, it introduced DLCs as standard, the consoles menus and UIs were goddamn slow and clunky as fuck. Good games were few and far between and most of them were japanese.
Fuck (you) and everything you stand for.

[Anonymous No.9209245]

>>9209235
I grew up playing gen 6 games because I didn't have money for gen 7 games and every gen 7 game i played was great. But I still can't talk about them around here

[Anonymous No.9209259]

>>9209137
Not true at all these days

Brown n bloom era of 7th gen happened because every dev was chasing CoD's success

Literal most popular game right now is cartoony and colorful (Fortnite) and now people are complaining about that becoming the trend.

The industry will always copy what is popular, has always copied what is popular, and will continue to do so long after we are all dead and buried.

[Anonymous No.9209267]

>>9209235
>low framerates across the board

Anon please it was far worse in 5th and 6th gen. I can hardly think of any 3D games from that era that dont have slowdown or stutter, ESPECIALLY 5th gen. Not a single 3D N64 game runs smooth.

[Anonymous No.9209268]

>>9209235
you're a fucking retard. 7th gen had tons of great games. Demon's Souls alone is one of the best games ever made and completely shit stops almost anything made during 6th gen. if you had actually bothered to look past the cawdooty trash you'd find tons of amazing games. dark messiah of might and magic, culdcept saga, disgaea 4, warhawk, sacred 2, viking battle for asgard, command & conquer 3, etc. also there were a metric shit ton of colorful games so the "brown and bloom" meme is a fucking farce relegated to shooters and shitty open world action games. if you had said 8th gen was the pits i would agree with you, but 7th gen had plenty of legitimately good games.

[Anonymous No.9209272]

>>9209268
not /vr/, not reading, go back to /v/ with your autistic tween rambling.

[Anonymous No.9209273]

>>9209137
the same petty idpol attitude that causes 4channers to obsess over imaginary chad's ballsack. colors made vapid gen x journos feel gay so they demanded brown.

[Anonymous No.9209278]

>>9209272
if you didn't read it then you wouldn't even know what it said. stay mad you jaded buttclown nigger.

[Anonymous No.9209279]

>>9209141
everyone point and laugh at this retard who thinks the engine altered the colors of the developers chosen textures

[Anonymous No.9209280]

>>9209230
GoW1 actually had multiple filter settings you could choose from the options menu. it was pretty color if you wanted it to be. I always used "Vivid". also GoW1 was a fucking awesome game.

[Anonymous No.9209283]

i think i prefer 2006-10 brown realism to the modern overprominence of low effort cel shading everyone pretends isn't boring shit because it reminds them of some golden calf nintendo game or whatever

[Anonymous No.9209285]

>>9209259
Yeah I understand it's different now but I was moreso referring to the change from 6th gen to 7th.

[Anonymous No.9209291]

>>9209280
>also GoW1 was a fucking awesome game.
the best multiplayer from the entire series hands down. 2 was good, I remember trying the gow3 demo and it didn't feel like gow anymore.

[Anonymous No.9209301]

>>9209291
gears 1 was the only game I really meshed with. I've been playing multiplayer gears 1 on 360 (now series X) since 2006 and I never tire of it, but even gears 2 didn't feel right to me. the speed, the active downs, the maps, everything was so fucking fasted paced and brutal and they fucked it up with successive entries. god tier story mode with really good dialogue and characters too. still play through the story mode every year and enjoy it every time. even went as far as playing the PC release just for the extra episode, and that was good fun too.

[Anonymous No.9209313]

>>9209301
online servers are still up on 360 games?

[Anonymous No.9209319]

>>9209313
yeah, afaik all of them are. most of the best 360 games are backwards compatible on X1/series X, surprisingly even some of the deeper cuts, and every game still has full multiplayer, chat etc. i still see dudes on gears 1 that i played with in the early 2010s.

[Anonymous No.9209320]

>>9209313
LMAO no you can play through hitachi

[Anonymous No.9209323]

>>9209320
ignore this retard, 360 games are alive and well on both original hardware and newer consoles. gears 1, cod4, even fucking sacred 2 is still playable the company that made it is dissolved. no idea how they made that work.

[Anonymous No.9209504]

>>9209137
While brown and bloom definitely took over the PS2 eventually, early on in the 6th gen developers were amazed that the new hardware let you have decent looking foliage and water. These were the Bush years so obviously we were embracing edginess, and once the 7th gen came around with realistic metals and advanced post-processing, well, it was a Goldilocks zone for the art style

[Anonymous No.9209748]

>>9209279
To be fair, he has a point insofar as Unreal 3 encourages developers to design with a certain style in mind. It's easier just to use the inbuilt shaders and call it a day, but then there are also a few outliers that totally transform the UE3 look.

[Anonymous No.9209856]

>>9209267
Mortal Kombat 4 runs pretty well, only really slowing down when performing finishers.

[Anonymous No.9209864]

>>9209259
The problem with Fortnite aesthetically is it's like they didn't even try. The whole game feels like a shitpost, which I guess is part of it's appeal.
I'll take Splatoon though. That games' visual design, and universe building is all so charming and full of personality.

[Anonymous No.9210005]

>>9209235
Mirrors edge?

[Anonymous No.9210009]

>>9209235
>>9210005
Sonic Unleashed?

[Anonymous No.9210057]

Brown and bloom at least tried to resemble a coherent artstyle and was pretty suitable for some games like Miyazaki-era Armored Core or MGS4. Modern games have zero visual identity and have the same "realistc" postprocessing clusterfuck look.

[Anonymous No.9210060]

>>9210057
This sounds boring, should I like it because it's Japanese or because it's good?

[Anonymous No.9210065]

>>9209157
Too bad it has awful gunplay

[Anonymous No.9210116]

>People are defending brown and bloom era on /vr/
I guess it was inevitable

[Anonymous No.9210117]

They had all this fancy pants new hardware but didn't know how to use it to it's fullest yet, the public wanted MUH NEW REALISTIC GAMES for the PS3 they just shelled out $600 for.

Solution? Slap some bloom and post processing on that shits and call it next gen.

Also if you'll remember this was the peak war on terror years and every movie and TV show was doing the gritty piss filtered middle east thing which made it's way into games too.

[Anonymous No.9210142]

>>9210060
It is Japanese and therefore good by definition.

[Anonymous No.9210150]

>>9210065

[Anonymous No.9210151]

Because this was the period when shit was baked in. It was too expensive to do lighting calculations on the fly for anything but simple shapes, and so artists were allowed to work.

Modern games look like dogshit because modern lighting engines mean there's no room for expression. All that can be created is a poor simulation of reality. Old games look good because they're INTERPRETATIONS, not simulation. The look of a modern object can be completely different depending on the lighting in the scene, which can be adjusted on the fly.

[Anonymous No.9210174]

>>9210151
do you honestly think modern games don't use pre-baked lightmaps

[Anonymous No.9210181]

>>9210151
like fuck me do you think this scene is raytraced

[Anonymous No.9210191]

>>9209157
These graphics didn't age well.

[Anonymous No.9210258]

>warned for my post
Really, faggot? Firstly, I was responding to another poster. Secondly, the topic of how modern games compare to old games is "on topic", because we're still within the ballpark of talking about old games,
Take your fucking autism pills. Jesus Christ.

[Anonymous No.9210267]

>>9210258
Not retro

[Anonymous No.9210270]

>>9210267
If someone opens a thread by asking why modern games don't have colours, how saying that actually yes they do and posting examples not a valid response?
Delete OP's post if anything. That's the beginning of the chain.

[Anonymous No.9210271]

>>9210258
they did the same thing to me, apparently you can't even deviate from /vr/ if said topic stems from a /vr/ discussion. I also posted a funny /vr/ website I found last night and the thread was deleted and I was warned within 2 minutes because some analpained retard janny didnt bother to even look at the website and assumed it was /v/ shit. this "moderation" is fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.9210280]

>>9210116
i enjoy all eras of games. im sorry youre boring

[Anonymous No.9210283]

>>9210280
>i eat anything, including piss and shit

[Anonymous No.9210287]

>>9210283
>i thought the entire 7th generation was call of duty games and didn't bother to look for, or play, legitimately good games because im a jaded balding homosexual who pounds his ass with a rubber dildo every night while staring at a picture of john romero pinned to the ceiling
you do you retard

[Anonymous No.9210290]

>>9210287
holy projection

[Anonymous No.9210292]

>>9210290
>holy projection
this comeback is almost as weak as your anal gland after a night of romero'ing

[Anonymous No.9210339]

>>9209137
What's the deal with generations? I hear it here all the time. Explain what you mean by saying this. Where is the clear division between "generations"? Why not just name the years from 2005 to 2010, for example? Does this have anything to do with the release of consoles? Then where does the game on the PC.

[Anonymous No.9210341]

>>9210339
retard

[Anonymous No.9210356]

>>9209137
Nice thread idea, but you spoiled it by asking that question.

[Anonymous No.9210374]

>>9210258
same, my warning confused me.

[Anonymous No.9210384]

Gears of War was released on PC in 2007 and therefore is retro according to the boards rules. Follow your own damn rules tranny janny clown

[Anonymous No.9210387]

>>9210356
comfy, Dreamcast was really beautiful

[Anonymous No.9210415]

>>9210341
You? Yes, kid, you are an absolute idiot and a disappointment to your parents, live with it.

[Anonymous No.9210421]

>>9209137
Only AAA games were brown in the late 00-early-10s and even then PSO is not AAA. You still were getting your blues and greens in sega games and PSO sequels like PSU. You have the most basic plebeian take imaginable.

[Anonymous No.9210441]

>a game series about a literal, currently-happening forever war involving mass casualties should look like blues clues
my favorite andrew dobson take

[Anonymous No.9210485]

>>9210415
lol I'm gonna ask dad to post here, then you'll see if I'm a disappointment or not

[Anonymous No.9210523]

>>9210485
You don't have any father, retard. He left you a long time ago because you're a freak. And no wonder, you are simply impossible to love.

[Anonymous No.9210557]

>>9210523
Hello, lad! I'm that anon's father. I'm here just to say that my beloved Jimmy is a hell of a fine young man. Quite a success with the ladies, just like his old man, if I must say so.

[Anonymous No.9210862]

>>9210258
>>9210270
>>9210271
>>9210384
Who do you think made the thread...

[Anonymous No.9210874]

>>9210862
This wouldn't be the first time jannies/mods abuse their power by making bait threads.

[Anonymous No.9210879]

>>9209137
Because you grew up and stopped playing games targeted at 5 year olds which, like cartoons, vomit bright colors everywhere. RE, Tomb Raider, MGS, Prince of Persia, Planescape, Betrayal at Krondor, Diablo, Quake, Medal of Honor, and like 5000 other games who didn't have an intended audience of 1st graders had more realistic design and colors for years before.

[Anonymous No.9210883]

>>9210879
I don't think the children's aesthetics are bad, but those older ''realistic'' games have aged better.

[Anonymous No.9210892]

"realistic" aesthetics peaked in the early 2000s and then they dropped the ball so hard they made everyone start to hate them and surrender to pastel calarts shit

[Anonymous No.9210905]

[Anonymous No.9210947]

>>9210339
It's a means of grouping consoles by their common competition of the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_generation_of_video_game_consoles

[Anonymous No.9210965]

6th gen may have been colorful but it sure as hell isn't retro.

[Anonymous No.9210980]

>>9209137
What game in this pic?

[Anonymous No.9211001]

>>9210441
Do you think blue skies disappear every time there's a warzone? Hollywood did a number to your perception of reality.

[Anonymous No.9211005]

>>9211001
>Do you think blue skies disappear every time there's a warzone?
yeah they kind of do. it's tonally inappropriate anyway which is the point.

[Anonymous No.9211013]

>>9211005
>it's tonally inappropriate
You're again letting Hollywood mold your expectations and rob you from your imagination. Pretty sad.

[Anonymous No.9211025]

>>9211013
colors and blue skies aren't imaginative in of themselves

[Anonymous No.9211052]

>>9210441
>a game series about a literal, currently-happening forever war involving mass casualties should look like blues clues
Yes? That's a fucking great idea.
We should take more elements from Blue's Clues while we're at it...

[Anonymous No.9211061]

>>9210905
I remember everyone being wowed by the graphics of Doom 3 and then this fucking game released right after. It was a crazy time for PC graphics.

[Anonymous No.9211063]

>>9211013
I didn't know they let Alejandro Jodorowsky post here

[Anonymous No.9211113]

I've always kept a very strong sense of nostalgia for Dreamcast era blues. There's just something very bright and summery about that console that always stuck with me.

[Anonymous No.9211134]

>>9211113
The Japanese game industry as a whole seemed to be in full summer vacation mode during the sixth gen. So many beautifully colorful tropical environments.

[Anonymous No.9211140]

>>9211134
things were on the upturn in japan after the lost decade passed and things were in the downturn in the us because of 9/11

[Anonymous No.9211151]

>>9210980
Phantasy Star Online.

[Anonymous No.9211178]

>>9211140
Did Japan have a gaming phase reflecting that downturn?

[Anonymous No.9211235]

>>9211151
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.9211243]

>>9211235
It's the expansion as well.

[Anonymous No.9211279]

>>9211178
i don't think they cared. cod was still a best-seller there

[Anonymous No.9211286]

>>9211178
Pretty much at the time Madoka started airing plenty of stuff went in a darker way in everything. Not saying its the cause but a causality

[Anonymous No.9211957]

>>9210441
None of that means the game has to be dingy grey. Look at the Terminator war flash forwards with with their cool blues, and purple lasers. Everyone remembers how good that shit looked.

[Anonymous No.9212198]

[Anonymous No.9212228]

>>9209137
You realize Fortnite is a direct response to people like you crying about war shooters being bleak?

[Anonymous No.9212250]

>>9210280
I enjoy cooking but I don't post about it on /vr/ and I don't berate other posters for not posting about it either.

[Anonymous No.9212264]

>>9212228
which is why fortnite is so popular

[Anonymous No.9212283]

>>9212228
We had this conversation yesterday, and the janny deleted it, because he's a retard.

[Anonymous No.9212339]

>>9212283
>>/vr/thread/9209137 breathtaking

[Anonymous No.9212351]

>>9210150
halo was always shit

[Anonymous No.9212364]

>>9212351
yeah the game where the line of sight isn't always a straight fucking line in a corridor is truly too simple for the patrician

[Anonymous No.9212374]

>>9212364
Just do a comparison of “babies first fps” Halo vs the competition from that year. Pc fags will slober over RTCW which literally has a remake (and does it worse) of a goldeneye stage. Those rose tinted glasses will never come off.

[Anonymous No.9212384]

>>9211134
Man what a time that was.,

[Anonymous No.9212405]

>>9211957
notice how it didn't look like blues clues

[Anonymous No.9212406]

>>9209159
Apology accepted.
>>9210065
Bait.
>>9210191
Horrible bait. Halo’s art direction in my opinion holds up better than Halo 2 which was more technically impressive.

[Anonymous No.9212504]

>>9212351
Halo is great but it's obviously slower than something like Quake and UT. But it was never pretending to be fast.

[Anonymous No.9212518]

>>9210117
Isn't there a shooting game with a scene where you're riding a helicopter across the border, and moment the copter crosses into Mexico the whole game turns piss yellow? Think it was one of the Ghost Recons.

[Anonymous No.9212542]

>>9212406
halo ce was literally more technically impressive than Halo 2; more bump maps, more specular, larger environments, etc. Halo 2 holds up better because of artistic choices

[Anonymous No.9212546]

>>9209159
I am not. Casualization of shooters.

[Anonymous No.9212548]

>>9212546
shooters have never been good. always the lowest effort genre for the lowest common denominator.

[Anonymous No.9212554]

>>9212548
t. jrpg fan
Now if you'll excuse me, I needa shoot some niggas

[Anonymous No.9212589]

>>9212548
pic rel
>>9212554
based

[Anonymous No.9212590]

>>9211113
Dreamcast still looks so good
>>9211134
Never finished Sunshine, probably need to revisit it
>>9211957
What game

[Anonymous No.9212631]

>>9212548
>t. Fatlus

[Anonymous No.9212749]

Post more blues and greens for fucks sake.

[Anonymous No.9212758]

[Anonymous No.9212759]

>>9212504
The problem is they didn't invent the weapon wheel and instead decided you could only carry 2 guns at a time, which every other FPS decided to copy off of for the next several years.

[Anonymous No.9212770]

>>9212759
Yeah it's really problematic that Halo decided to be a different sort of game, I hate making strategic decisions about my gear and ammunition

[Anonymous No.9212774]

>>9212770
At some point the decision stops even being strategic, like you just run out of ammo for a gun because nobody on that particular level is using it so you have to leave it behind for something else.

[Anonymous No.9212820]

>>9212250
Based respectful poster

[Anonymous No.9212828]

>>9209137

[Anonymous No.9213185]

God I miss those colors so much. I miss the idea of a perfect summer world with pristine beaches. I miss being carefree...

[Anonymous No.9213187]

>>9213185
No, you will live in the current nightmare hellscape and you will like it.

[Anonymous No.9213202]

>>9212589
kek

[Anonymous No.9213207]

[Anonymous No.9213313]

>>9212828
Moar

[Anonymous No.9213459]

BRU BRU SKIES I SEE

Why the hell didn't SEGA release Daytona 2 on the Dreamcast anyway?

[Anonymous No.9213475]

>>9210057
>>9210441
>>9211005
crazy how internet contrarians started defending piss filters because they heard that normalfags and soiboys hate them

[Anonymous No.9213489]

>>9213459
I'm surprised it didn't end up on Xbox at least

[Anonymous No.9213586]

>>9213475
desert wars still don't look like blues clues

as if this whole position wasn't invented to be contrary to the "cawadoody dudebros" anyway

[Anonymous No.9213592]

>>9212759
Carrying 2 weapons is better than your clutered alternative.

[Anonymous No.9213615]

>>9211134
I always wanted to go to Isle Delfino. Just look at how beautiful it is. I could taste those waters.

[Anonymous No.9213628]

@9213592
lol.

For consoleshit it's the best option, but PC games insisted on 2 weapons as well which was fucking cancerous.

[Anonymous No.9213640]

>>9213628
>which was cancerous
>why yes I want everything to be overly complicated and convoluted

[Anonymous No.9213678]

>>9213592
2 big gun slots + 1 sidearm slot > 1 big + 1 sidearm > 2 any gun

[Anonymous No.9213703]

>>9209137
That was one thing i loved about ys 8. It looked like an old sega arcade game with its beautiful colours and rock solid 60FPS frame rate.

[Anonymous No.9213845]

>>9210057
brown and bloom has always been and will always be awful

[Anonymous No.9213868]

>>9213640
>>why yes I want everything to be overly complicated and convoluted
is using a scrolling wheel too hard for you, console babby?

[Anonymous No.9213930]

>>9213868
their tiny undeveloped zoomer hands cant handle using number keys to switch weapons.

[Anonymous No.9213983]

There's a lot of ways for a game to be 50% photorealistic, but not so many to be 90%

[Anonymous No.9214031]

>>9209148
>westoids
normalniggers*

[Anonymous No.9214193]

>>9212758
Damn, Far Cry looks like THAT? Played Crysis but haven't taken the FC pill yet. Looks like I need to try it out.

[Anonymous No.9214252]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sh_VuxYqBY
god i loved this game so much despite not having anyone to play it with

[Anonymous No.9214263]

>>9210142
fuck off you weeb cunt

[Anonymous No.9214279]

>>9213930
desu that's not technically any better than a weapon wheel if you ask me. it's certainly not any more cluttered. its just replacing unlabeled keyboard buttons with labeled cursor buttons so it's less colored really since it doesn't require memorization.

t. someone who exclusively uses mousewheel to switch weapons. miss me with le zoomer scapegoat

[Anonymous No.9214289]

>>9214279
>colored
cluttered. firefox didn't actually fix my typo.

[Anonymous No.9214293]

>>9214279
>not technically any better than a weapon wheel
you are legitimately stupid. pressing a single key to switch to a weapon immediately is provably faster and more efficient than having to toggle a weapon wheel and select a weapon, even if it theoretically only added one additional step of input and you could select the weapon just as fast as a key would allow (which you couldn't). you are a low skill shitter who probably got filtered by shooters like quake 3 and always chocks it up to some design flaw instead of your own inadequacy and willingness to git gud.

[Anonymous No.9214303]

>>9214293
how the fluck is moving your hand to a key on a keyboard any faster than flicking your wrist with a mouse? i don't even use weapon wheels myself but they just aren't any worse. insisting old bad new good" against logic doesn't make you not look lik'e a huffy middleschooler right now

[Anonymous No.9214306]

>>9214303
a weapon wheel requires you to press an input to activate the wheel and then another input to select the weapon from the wheel. inherently that is slower than pressing one input to access the weapon. this goes double for having to access weapons via a mouse wheel which will always require more than one input unless the weapon you want is one click up or down. i honestly don't know how you can be too stupid to understand this.

[Anonymous No.9214324]

>>9214306
>click weaponwheel button on mouse
>flick wrist
>done

>reach across keyboard
>press key
>done

i think you're just mad cause you aren't fast on both the mouse and keyboard when others are with both. scrollwheels are for people with the foresight to know exactly where a weapon is without needing to do something retarded and needlessly dated like reaching across a keyboard. congratulations, you've discovered the most efficient way to play first person shooters on the apple 2 here's your cookie don't get crumbles in your precious keyboard

[Anonymous No.9214330]

>>9214324
>reach across keyboard
lol what, are you playing with arrow keys or some shit? if you're using WASD like any normal person you just move your finger slightly and press a key. i repeat, how can you be this stupid?
>i think you're just mad cause you aren't fast on both the mouse and keyboard when others are with both
i think you're mad because you're literally so stupid that you don't realize one input is faster than 2+ inputs and you're conflating a fucking weapon wheel with being as fast as keys on a keyboard. this is insane level of cope. i hope you're trolling, seriously.

[Anonymous No.9214337]

>2+ inputs
>press weaponwheel button on mouse in 0.1 seconds
>flick wrist in 0.1 seconds
>this takes a significant amount of time to the keyboard fag
>flicking wrist is an input but reaching across keyboard isn't becuase umm heil keyboard
the keyboard, the keyboard, woahh, cum on my keyboard. i dont love my mom, or my dad, just the keyboard

[Anonymous No.9214338]

>>9214337
>playing the fool
>has to greentext response out of anger
you're only hurting yourself dude. there is not one, not one single quake 3 pro who uses a fucking mouse wheel for switching weapons instead of keys adjacent to WASD. you are very, very stupid.

[Anonymous No.9214340]

>>9214338
quake 3 doesn't even have a weapon wheel. and obviously you're going to go with what you're most familiar with from the start. hence why i use scrollwheel being used to counter strike and other half life mods where it was emphasized.

[Anonymous No.9214348]

>>9214340
bro.
pressing a key next to WASD is faster than using a weapon wheel ala DOOM 2016, and it's faster than selecting weapons with the mouse wheel. this is a fact. if you like using either of the latter methods to select weapons in any shooter, that's fine, but it is 100% provably not as efficient and saying it is, is flat out wrong. please stop being retarded, holy shit.

[Anonymous No.9214350]

>>9212774
Okay?

[Anonymous No.9214353]

I never got all that good at PC shooters (the one I played most was UT2K4) and was too much of a pleb to master switching weapons with the keyboard, but even I know that method HAS to be faster than using the scroll wheel. The absolute fucking state of /vr/, holy shit.

[Anonymous No.9214354]

>i do it this way therefore it is physically impossible for there to be an equally as efficient or even faster way
and i hate that you know saying "ur am stupid poopy doodoo head" is actually a magic spell that makes your argument not shit. like how the fuck are you gonna press 0 next to wasd? that gesture alone is in no way faster than a weapon wheel or even arguably the scrollwheel where i can just tick once to get to my secondary

[Anonymous No.9214358]

your whole argument is the ebil modern cawadoody-like games not letting you hold more than two weapons meanwhile the precious efficiency of your kb setup relies on you only being able to hold a handful of weapons at a time anyway. half life 1 feels awful having to press the same number multiple times to get to certain weapons for example.

[Anonymous No.9214359]

>>9214354
at this point i can only assume you're trolling because this is honestly ridiculous. let me try to explain this sensibly. let's say i'm playing quake 3. i have various weapons mapped to keys like E, 3, 2, F, etc. I want one of these weapons. i move my finger so quickly and to such a small degree that i can press one of these keys while still touching WASD. by your logic, this is takes the same (or more) amount of time as having to scroll through weapons using a mouse wheel. even if you know the exact number of mouse wheel clicks to get to a particular weapon, even if you have god-like reflexes and speed, it still isn't going to be as fast as just pressing an adjacent key because it requires more than a single input. there is no shooter ever made where flicking 6 clicks up a mouse wheel gets me to a weapon faster than pressing a key 1/4 inch away from my finger. you are being fucked retarded dude.

[Anonymous No.9214364]

>>9214359
using e literally isn't even an option for switching weapons in the shooters i enjoy playing. how am i supposed to open doors?
>hurrr it works literally just in quake 3 therefore its completely perfect all the time for everything else

[Anonymous No.9214367]

>>9214364
what PC shooter are you playing that doesn't let you map keys to whatever you want?
>hurrr it works literally just in quake 3
it works in basically every fucking PC shooter you faggot retard. also in saying this you've now just conceded that it is, in fact faster, and the goalpost has been moved to the game being played rather than the input method. congrats idiot, you've cuckolded your own logic.

[Anonymous No.9214370]

>>9214367
Sometimes nigga I want to hold L1 and flick the right analogue stick instead of pressing "4" 4 times to get my rocket launcher

[Anonymous No.9214374]

>>9214370
>alright my negro i know you're right, but sometimes i just want to play my PS4, fr no cap
lol have a good night bro

[Anonymous No.9214383]

>>9214374
But here the weapon wheel is obviously faster

[Anonymous No.9214391]

>>9209157
>brown landscape but there's some guys in blue and red plastic-looking armor
That the best you can do?

[Anonymous No.9214401]

>>9214391
>>9209137
Just wanna know why earthen landscapes terrify you lot

[Anonymous No.9214405]

>>9214193
Far Cry looks fucking amazing.

[Anonymous No.9214406]

>>9214401
Nintendo and anime induced brain rot.

[Anonymous No.9214408]

>>9214367
i don't feel like opening doors with pgdn in half life so i can use the proton beam by hitting the e key five times in a row
>>9214374
>durrr an obviously different poster is you that means i win the argument now
he's right anyway

[Anonymous No.9214456]

>>9214405
Wouldn't call it amazing but it was a solid looking shooter. Doom 3 had the dark atmosphere and HL2 had its eastern european architecture and shit. FC lagged behind those two I'd say, cause tropical islands isn't that exciting of a setting, but on a technical level it was pretty nice.

[Anonymous No.9214503]

>>9214456
shut the fuck up, nigger

[Anonymous No.9214654]

>>9214456
Doom 3 has better shadows and lighting effects. HL2 has always looked like shit and I'm tired of people pretending it didn't, the physics were impressive, never the graphics. FC looked great.

[Anonymous No.9214657]

>>9214654
>HL2 has always looked like shit
Wow you are a retarded faggot, City 17 looks nice even today, so yeah you're a fuckwit

[Anonymous No.9214969]

>>9214252
I only remember this game because the lady giant had her tits out.

[Anonymous No.9214971]

>>9214350
So what if I liked the gun I have to drop and swap it out for some shit ass peashooter? Fuck that.

[Anonymous No.9214978]

>>9214358
Nah sorting weapons into classes and mapping them all to the same key was also a shit idea just so the devs could be like LOOK HOW MANY GUNZ!!!111! what I want is doom/quake style where every gun has its own key.

[Anonymous No.9215036]

>>9214971
That's the strategic decision, I bet you dislike Resident Evil

[Anonymous No.9215063]

>>9215036
There's nothing strategic about RE, that shit is solved.

[Anonymous No.9215086]

>>9214406
>Nintendo
Where did that come from?

[Anonymous No.9215094]

>>9214359
i can move my mouse so quickly and to such a small degree that i can press one of the weapon wheel buttons while still touching wasd. it's very obvious you've never actually tried to use one.

[Anonymous No.9215315]

>>9209137
I want to go back.

[Anonymous No.9215335]

>>9215315
That hill looks so dead and barren nowadays.

[Anonymous No.9215339]

[Anonymous No.9215351]

>>9215339
now we're talking

[Anonymous No.9215359]

>>9210280
You also eat ze bugz when Klaus Schwab tells you to

[Anonymous No.9215371]

[Anonymous No.9215384]

realistic sunlight generally isn't colorful outside of a sliver of evening, sunlight whitens, in the past devs just simply made things a bold primary color independant of any global lighting system.

[Anonymous No.9215385]

>>9215335
Perfect metaphor for this thread, really.

[Anonymous No.9215386]

>>9210280
Based desu, too many sperglords on this board forget that both retro and modern games vary in quality, and you can like both.
To answer OP, I feel like those kind of games only really dominated early 6th gen. Obviously they still exist though.

[Anonymous No.9215843]

>>9215385
>has more vegetation than ever and grass is still green

[Anonymous No.9215851]

>>9214456
>it was a solid looking shooter
It was considered one of the best, if not the best, looking game on PC at release.

[Anonymous No.9215962]

>>9215339
>>9215351
I never finished it since I got my ass handed to me doing the edgemistress childhood friend sidequest near the end game.
Maybe I should pick it up again.

[Anonymous No.9216241]

>>9215339
>>9215351
Not an RPG player but this game always looked so good to me

>>9215371
Is this Hydro Thunder?

[Anonymous No.9216825]

>>9215385
this pic is also over 16 years old btw

[Anonymous No.9217103]

>>9209137
two games i can think of with that beautiful color style are Final Fantasy 11 and Phantasy Star Online

[Anonymous No.9217104]

>>9209205
Dreamcast, Gamecube, many Playstation 2 games, all had that amazing art style

that's why games from that period are so soulful

[Anonymous No.9217128]

>>9217104

[Anonymous No.9217206]

>>9210057
Once again, dumb faggot: Stop pretending you've ever played Armored Core.

[Anonymous No.9217225]

>>9209137
>>9210356
>>9210905
>>9211113
>>9211134
>>9212758
>>9212828
>>9215315
Why is it so comfy, boys.

[Anonymous No.9217253]

>>9212518
Any country that isn't America, Japan or one of the richer European countries is just a piss yellow desert 24/7 don'tcha know?

[Anonymous No.9217783]

>>9212518
>>9217253
Found it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnPWKouUnMY

[Anonymous No.9217786]

>>9217783
fugg, meant to link to the exact time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnPWKouUnMY&t=1621s

[Anonymous No.9217838]

>>9209223
I'm 34 and I like 7th gen better than 6th gen but that's like fighting about who's the best in the special olympics.

[Anonymous No.9217858]

>>9209137
Because of "muh realist and mature games for mature audiences" required everything to be dark, gritty and same-y

[Anonymous No.9218048]

>>9217786
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnPWKouUnMY&t=1621s
That's so fucking on the nose I'd swear they're fucking with me if I didn't know better holy shit

[Anonymous No.9218062]

>>9209137
>blue and green is beautiful
>brown and yellow is ugly
That’s racist

[Anonymous No.9218063]

>>9209137
MUH MUHFUGGN REALIZM

[Anonymous No.9218078]

>>9217253
May as well be

[Anonymous No.9218743]

>>9209137
More Halo CE. I wish they'd add a photo mode to MCC because this game is beautiful.

[Anonymous No.9218759]

>>9217786
HAHAHAHA glorious, I'm not even American but this clip made me a red blooded patriot

[Anonymous No.9219005]

>>9213459
I-WANT TO FRYYY SKY HIIIIGH LETS G-OOO TO-GETH-ERR
probably because they already had crazy taxi and sega GT 2002 + eventually competing with the top racing games at the time.

[Anonymous No.9219096]

[Anonymous No.9219102]

Take me back boiz

[Anonymous No.9219147]

>>9212590
>probably need to revisit it
There's a reason why you never finished it.
It's not compelling. At all.

[Anonymous No.9221180]

The blue green ocean aesthetic of Chrono Cross is a big factor for why I prefer it over its predecessor. Sometimes atmosphere alone wins.

[Anonymous No.9221221]

FUCK YEAH BLUE
BOOOOOO BROWN YUCK

[Anonymous No.9221302]

>>9212770
The only time when you have to make strategic decisions about weapons in halo is on legendary where there's only like 2 viable combos to get through most sections (noob combo, rockets, sniper). The game is balanced just to mow down everything with any weapon on other difficulties. If anything the two weapon system is just to keep you from realizing that.

[Anonymous No.9221646]

>>9209151
7th gen games started the terrible brown and bloom that we are STILL dealing with today.
6th gen was the last time games had nice colors.

[Anonymous No.9221657]

>>9221221
kek honestly good point

[Anonymous No.9221670]

>>9221646
i'm sick of this fucking shit take. yeah games beyond 2010 look like garbage but 7th gen had some ridiculously colorful games and the "brown and bloom" was actually done right, e.g. Demon's Souls and Gears 1. nowadays you just have gay cartoon shit like Fortnite or military man garbage like Battlefield on opposite ends of the spectrum.

[Anonymous No.9221708]

>>9219096
what game

[Anonymous No.9221719]

>>9221646
brown & bloom started in the 6th gen

[Anonymous No.9221828]

>>9221708
Pokemon meets instagib
https://youtu.be/jqFcCn-chis
Gameplay is kinda shite but the environments are maximum soul

[Anonymous No.9221841]

Remember when games could be grimdark and colorful? Back when games had soul....

[Anonymous No.9221846]

>>9212774
you are straight-up retarded being this oblivious

[Anonymous No.9221847]

This one is pretty rare cause it was PC only. Also it was one of them "adult" games cause they said a few bad words. It's not like today when every game says fuck every 5 seconds. Back then even a "damn" was pretty mature

https://youtu.be/gklsYa0rWOA

In hindsight this game was basically star wars meets Unreal with melee combat

[Anonymous No.9221867]

>>9209137
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYYoq4ychjw

[Anonymous No.9221868]

Destiny Island > Besaid island

[Anonymous No.9221874]

Did someone say blue?

[Anonymous No.9221886]

[Anonymous No.9221984]

>>9221670
Brown and bloom was way worse on 6th gen

[Anonymous No.9222057]

>>9221180
Shit taste
Cross was garbage

[Anonymous No.9222418]

>>9221984
No it wasn't

[Anonymous No.9222426]

>>9221874
>>9221886
Aspect ratio, dipshit.

[Anonymous No.9222595]

>>9221867
SFA gets too much hate!

[Anonymous No.9222616]

>>9221221
literally doom

[Anonymous No.9222630]

>>9221847
Runs on ID Tech 3. Bet the gameplay is smooth as butter. Looks nice!

[Anonymous No.9222678]

>>9222595
It's a mediocre game, but there are definitely way worse. I did like the water effects, though and it is pretty colourful.

[Anonymous No.9222730]

>>9222418

[Anonymous No.9223008]

>>9222730
Man, I don't remember all of Burnout Revenge looking like that. If I'm remembering correctly, each area had different filters and the brown/bloom one appeared specifically on certain gritty/dirty maps set in the late afternoon/early evening.

[Anonymous No.9223109]

>>9216241
Yes, it is

[Anonymous No.9223138]

>>9222057
It was great

[Anonymous No.9223376]

EA raping Renderware and forcing devs to switch over to Unreal Engine 3 which was a fucking ugly looking engine was the culprit. 7th gen was just an eyesore. Even at the time. I remember wanting to vomit when I saw Bioshock for the first time. I think 8th gen games looked great but apparently I’m in the minority there

[Anonymous No.9223730]

>>9221846
gay

[Anonymous No.9223736]

>>9221719
It doesn't matter if some games in the 6th gen looked that way, you could find some 5th gen games that even have that look.
The trend of every game being those colors didnt happen until the 7th gen military shooter craze and the pursuit of "realism" that we are still having to deal with today.

[Anonymous No.9225217]

Gotta love a solid blue ocean, amirite?

[Anonymous No.9225224]

[Anonymous No.9225229]

>>9211134
Fuck the art direction is amazing in this game

[Anonymous No.9225412]

>>9223736
Not him but I can bump a bunch of bright colored 7th gen games and a shitload of drowm and bloom 6th gen games. It's the same shit, you were just younger and less exposed to all the gritty 6th gen shit.

[Anonymous No.9225413]

>>9212351

[Anonymous No.9225449]

>>9209137

[Anonymous No.9226426]

>>9225413
this

[Anonymous No.9226429]

>>9225412
the other anon is a fucking retard for not thinking brown and bloom was at its height in the BUSH years

[Anonymous No.9226460]

>>9212774
That's not how it works, weapon priority is something you constantly finetune and change depending on how you fight, what you fight and what's available. There's also grenades and utility with can close some of your gaps if your main weapons are lacking in something. It's a very natural and well balanced system, and I don't think it would add anything to Halo to have more than 2 guns at any given time.

>>9221302
I beat Halo 1-3 on Legendary and I never felt that. I don't think I even could feel that, since the ammo pool for those weapons is low and they're firmly in the power weapon category, you can't really last long enough with them compared to what's normally more abundant in most levels. My weapons changed out all the time.

[Anonymous No.9226469]

>>9210280
there's good stuff in that era that isn't brown and bloom shit

[Anonymous No.9226475]

>>9215385
that looks way comfier, autumn is a great season
besides, the grass and the trees are still fine

[Anonymous No.9226521]

I feel like there was a lot more optimism in the industry back then

[Anonymous No.9226763]

>>9226521
games not costing 100 million dollars to develop was nice

[Anonymous No.9227081]

>>9226460
Halo might have been balanced around it, but do you think every other game that ripped off the system had the same amount of insight as to why they did it instead of just POPULAR GAME DO THIS, MAKE HAPPEN BIG SALES NUMBERS GO.

[Anonymous No.9227086]

>>9210151
>Old games look good because they're INTERPRETATIONS, not simulation.
True

[Anonymous No.9227108]

>>9227081
No, but most shooters from the 6th gen were forgettable shovelware and said shovelware wasn't going to be good whether it had 2 weapons or 10 at any given time. You have to remember there was about a dozen or two actually worthwhile inspired shooters on 6th gen consoles.
The games that were good were good anyways and even if they copied that system it wasn't a detriment, or at least not a significant one.

[Anonymous No.9227463]

>>9225217
I don't hate the look of Wind Waker HD but man the original just looks so much better in terms of style

[Anonymous No.9227490]

>>9225412
That’s not true though. 7th gen games WERE ugly as fucking sin for the most
Part and there was a trend of brown and bloom that was not present in 6th gen. It’s not just nostalgia either because 8th gem games largely did not have this problem. Compare RDR1 to RDR2. RDR2 is a perfect example of how to make a game that is dirty and ugly in some parts but vibrant and beautiful in others. RDR2 will age well because it’s a good looking game, similar to MGS2, Dark Cloud or Chaos Theory. RDR1 looks dusty, brown and monotone.

Far Cry 5 is another great example. It takes place in Montana. They could have made it brown and dusty, but instead it’s vibrant, bright and over saturated (as any far cry game should be), compare Shitman Ass Pollution to Hitman 1-3. Same thing. It’s like they rediscovered color again and left the Unreal 3 engine where it belongs, in the shitbin of history.

[Anonymous No.9227497]

>>9209137
>How did we go from this to everything being brown and yellow?
Unironically 9/11 and the Iraq war.

[Anonymous No.9227764]

>>9227497
Bush was king.The greatest president and the spiritual leader of our time
>hilarious charismatic entertainer
>gave us cool sandbox aesthetics
>gave us linkin park
>gave us halo
>gave us emo pussy
>and we watched this drive
I kneel for this nigga daily

[Anonymous No.9227765]

>>9209137
>6th Gen
>Home...

[Anonymous No.9227821]

>>9227765
>timesplitters
based
>timesplitters 1
uhhhh based

[Anonymous No.9227940]

[Anonymous No.9227948]

[Anonymous No.9227951]

[Anonymous No.9227965]

>>9210116
This entire website has been overran by zoomers.

[Anonymous No.9227970]

[Anonymous No.9227975]

>>9210116
Shut up Gore
>>9227965
Shut up Kerry

[Anonymous No.9227990]

>>9225217
>Learned the other day that they hard coded hundreds of different lighting rules for links color tones based on location/time/weather
Games will never put that much effort in to color choice again.

[Anonymous No.9228037]

>>9211113
I feel that way about arcade games of that era too anon.
I grew up in a seaside resort town full of arcades, and had a dreamcast. I was a teen when I had FFX, Mario Sunshine and Power Stone.
The feel of all this stuff is so nostalgic. I have arguments playing MK8 with my wife, because I will only pick "sunny tracks"

[Anonymous No.9228316]

>>9227490
>there was a trend of brown and bloom that was not present in 6th gen
Oh please shut up. The bloom wasn't that present in 6th gen merely because the systems were not powerful enough to have it. But there's tons of low saturation brown 6th gen shit. Prince of Persia 2, COD series, MOH series, Socom series, Riddick, Doom3, Black, Killzone 1 and that's only from the top of my head. The trend started in 6th gen.

[Anonymous No.9228953]

>>9217253
as a German who's been to both Spain and Portugal: it is a piss yellow desert. sure there are some trees but the dust gives everything a yellow/brown hue. Games and movies never hardly prepare you for the dustiness of shithole countries.

[Anonymous No.9230150]

>>9228953
Sorry Hans this is the Blue and Green thread so no Nazis allowed.

[Anonymous No.9230153]

>basic bitch colors
>effort

nintendo did it for the sake of toddlers, since ocarina of time the series has developed a style.

[Anonymous No.9230165]

>>9210356
Look how comfy this game was. The sonic fanbase didnt appreciate it and then you shovelware for two decades.

[Anonymous No.9230337]

>>9227948
looks perfect

[Anonymous No.9230351]

>>9230337
Not quite as the 2D elements don't scale to widescreen, but I consider that a minor issue given 3D parts do scale correctly and those are what matters.

[Anonymous No.9230685]

>>9213640
>having a lot of guns
>overly complicated and convoluted

Wow now I get why PCfags shit on console niggers all day

[Anonymous No.9230695]

>>9209137
It's not technical it's just stylistic because 90s graphic arts trends favored a lot of blue, green and aqua while the 2000s favored brown and orange.

[Anonymous No.9231348]

>>9222730
>cherry picking the mgs3 western homage

[Anonymous No.9232108]

>>9209137

[Anonymous No.9234279]

>>9209137
SEGA went bankrupt