for those who have this a long with real hardware, is the emulation good enough to replace the original hardware with the added bonus of having higher res output, savestates, and scanlines?

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Anonymous Mon Aug 22 18:33:48 2022 No.9200406 [Reply] [Original]

for those who have this a long with real hardware, is the emulation good enough to replace the original hardware with the added bonus of having higher res output, savestates, and scanlines?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 22 18:36:32 2022 No.9200409 no lol

Anonymous Mon Aug 22 18:54:12 2022 No.9200450

>>9200409
So you don’t have one. I have both and it’s made everything I have real hardware equivalent for redundant. I slightly regretted buying a mister on an impulse but once I got it set up I couldn’t believe how worthwhile it was. The only question to you OP is if the high price is trivial to you or not. It is expensive if you have ways to play everything already. But I’m never going to use my game boy player again, or ps1, or og Xbox modded with mame etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 22 18:56:43 2022 No.9200456 >>9200406 >savestates Fucking get good instead of relying on this shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 22 19:00:46 2022 No.9200469 >>9200406 its getting there but its not 100% accurate yet. superfx games run slower at the moment for example

Anonymous Mon Aug 22 19:04:46 2022 No.9200480

>>9200450
I went on a buying spree of vintage systems a few years ago, and while I like owning the original hardware I realized I just play using everdrives anyway so what's the point? I could slim my collection down, at least the nintendo and sega consoles without losing any quality.
But I also have a retropie set up so it's kinda redundant.

>>9200456
Checkpoint system is bad game design full stop. I don't savescum but sometimes in games I want to save and pick up where I left off instead of starting from the very beginning.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 22 19:07:04 2022 No.9200486 >>9200480 It’s way better than a retro pie, not even in the same league. The only category the mister falls short in is that Bluetooth compatibility is all over the place, I resorted to using wired controllers.

Anonymous Mon Aug 22 19:18:06 2022 No.9200514

>>9200406
If you care to play on composite, no, no converters will give you the same output as the actual thing.
When using RGB then for me it's impossible to tell which is real and which is mister.
If you're gonna play scaled on LCD TV then there's definitely no point in having original over mister.
Savestates on it kinda suck, though, go with regular emulators if you need that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 22 19:20:38 2022 No.9200520 >>9200456 Get "good" at inputting 28 character long password on games that don't save, yeah. Also savestates might be instrumental at getting real good, be it speedruns or high scoring, you could use that to grind out each segment to perfection.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 22 19:29:17 2022 No.9200535 What's like the bare minimum of shit that I need for this? I have the board and SDRAM already. Do I really need like a cooling setup, IO board, USB hub, all that stuff?

Anonymous Mon Aug 22 19:36:43 2022 No.9200553

>>9200535
You need at least a radiator and otg usb hub to plug shit into and you're good.
Any usb hub will do, you don't need $50 mister one.
Unless you actually need dual video output IO board could be replaced with generic hdmi to vga if you need vga at all

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 22 19:39:07 2022 No.9200561 >is emulation good enough to replace original hardware (for playstation and older) yes

Anonymous Mon Aug 22 19:41:35 2022 No.9200571

>>9200535
You will want everything you list IMO, you do end up using the extra USB ports, especially if you ever might use multiple controllers or a flash drive for extra game storage. There’s not much point building a mister and skimping on costs, it’s a luxury way to play retro vidya, worth paying for the extras and enjoying the luxury. I’d also recommend a wi fi adapter, makes updating everything so trivial.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 22 19:44:24 2022 No.9200579 >>9200456 yes I should have to replay the last two hours of progress because I cant save my game in a dungeon and I have to leave the house for an emergency.

Anonymous Mon Aug 22 19:52:36 2022 No.9200587

>>9200553
>You need at least a radiator
a fan is more important than a heatsink. that wouldnt be the case if it was possible to mount it properly with thermal paste, but your only option is thermal tape/pads and they are all dogshit. everyone who has tested thermals on sbc the results are the same. a heatsink + fan only nets you a 2 degree drop over fan alone, and thats with fresh thermal tape. I'm willing to bet as the months go on and the tape ages you end up with worse thermals than with just the fan alone

Anonymous Mon Aug 22 19:57:09 2022 No.9200609

>>9200456
I love savestates.
I use them constantly.
Why would I want to play through this ancient stuff without it? I did that back in the day. No way am I firing up Rastan or Rainbow Islands or R-Type without save states now.
Play to enjoy it. When you have this many rims play it to enjoy it.
Once upon a time I had to put money into arcades in smoke filled rooms.
Fuck that.

Anonymous Mon Aug 22 19:59:25 2022 No.9200626

>>9200514
Yeah save states are pretty basic for many consoles or not supported on some, they’re fine for NES and GB games which don’t save or use passwords, if you want to save scum a very difficult game or rpg or something then even a modded wii has a more comprehensive save state system in its emulators. But it’s useful for skipping intros on ps1 games and such

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 22 20:01:57 2022 No.9200635 >>9200626 I tend to just fastforward. It's especially good for 5th gen RPGs with long unskippable animations. Does Mister support that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 22 20:05:10 2022 No.9200643 >>9200635 Yeah but similarly it’s not featured in all cores, pretty sure it’s in ps1 if I recall the button mapping screen but I never map it so can’t say how stable it is

Anonymous Mon Aug 22 20:26:22 2022 No.9200692

>>9200406
>is the emulation good enough to replace the original hardware with the added bonus of having higher res output, savestates, and scanlines?
I don't know, I don't use it for any of these retarded features.

Anyone who does is a fucking embarrassment. You're playing on an LCD? Get fucking retroarch, retard. It works well enough and you won't fucking tell the difference. The shaders are probably nicer than whatever the MiSTer has, I've never used them. And you'll save a few hundred bucks you didn't need to spend.

I use my MiSTer as an actual REPLACEMENT for my real hardware. Which means it drops in between my CRT and my controllers, and works well enough that I notice no difference between it and the actual system, except it's more convenient.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 22 21:29:01 2022 No.9200884 >>9200587 I'm talking radiator with no fan. With nothing at all the chip gets somewhat hot and glitches out, with radiator it's fine. It doesn't get as hot as regular sbc

Anonymous Mon Aug 22 22:02:10 2022 No.9200979

>>9200486
>It’s way better than a retro pie, not even in the same league.
Care to go into more detail?
Because I’ve got DC and N64, if I got MiSTer I would have zero need for the pi for gaming. Would be able to keep it going as a NAS/Kodi box though which would be ideal.
But AFAIK the PSX & Saturn emulation is still just as good on the pi, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 22 23:55:24 2022 No.9201241 >>9200979 Sure, I can explain a bit more. PS1 has been perfect on mister with every game I’ve tried so far without exception. The Saturn core afaik is not officially rolled out and plays on an unstable build, waiting for the official release

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 22 23:57:35 2022 No.9201246 >>9200456 I use save states to get good. Take your own advice anon and learn those who use save states are generally of a higher skill level.

Anonymous Mon Aug 22 23:57:53 2022 No.9201249

>>9200979
As for blowing the Pi out the water it comes down to latency and emulation quality, plus updating everything over wi fi with the update all script on mister is easier than updating files on the Pi, plus the mister boots up and shuts off in an instant whereas my Pi (maybe it’s better these days, it’s a few years old) does not

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 01:13:27 2022 No.9201371 >>9200456 i will never stop using savestates

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 05:11:09 2022 No.9201812 ive heard a lot about these MISTers, just looked up the price $370 with all the adddons, what an overpriced joke.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 05:29:28 2022 No.9201840 >>9201246 >those who use save states are generally of a higher skill level Bold claim. Let's see your research.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 05:34:30 2022 No.9201851 >>9201840 Save stating allows you to figure out patterns a lot quicker so when it comes to your real games you are more prepared than those who just wing it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 06:55:16 2022 No.9201963 >>9200406 yes

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 06:55:52 2022 No.9201964 >>9201840 >he doesn't use savestates to practice speedrunning techniques ngmi

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 07:00:09 2022 No.9201968 >>9201851 not him but comparing playing ST on mister and then Capcom Fighting Collection, the ability to load savestate to character select is pretty nice especially today when I tried Rondo of Blood and you can't skip the intro

Anonymous Tue Aug 23 07:07:32 2022 No.9201976

>>9200456
you can get good by using save states to practice difficult levels.
>>9200486
MiSTer has surprisingly good compatibility compared to every other FPGA device, but it could certainly be better, and I'm sure will get better.
>>9200535
RAM and DE10-Nano is the bare minimum. USB Hub is probably helpful. I got a cheap one from aliexpress works fine for my needs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 07:10:21 2022 No.9201984 >>9201249 I just use samba or ftp to add new content and ssh to update it. How is that any worse than what mister does?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 08:16:05 2022 No.9202094 >>9201984 The mister runs on debian. It can do samba, ftp, ssh and nfs just fine

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 08:40:03 2022 No.9202123 >>9200609 It's just removes the fun element for me. There's a sense of achievement to be had to clear a game or even reach the latter stages without relying on save states.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 08:55:15 2022 No.9202152 >>9201964 >to practise speed running Yikes. If you use save states for anything but leveling up your skills for multiplayer games you need to quit posting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 08:55:36 2022 No.9202154 >>9202123 Personally I find save states useful to avoid entering passwords. I don't use them otherwise, but they are very useful for that purpose.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 08:57:30 2022 No.9202159 >>9202152 If you use the term “yikes” you need to quit posting

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 09:03:50 2022 No.9202165 >>9200486 Could you just use a Magic NS?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 09:46:42 2022 No.9202231 >>9200406 For sure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 10:11:05 2022 No.9202275 >>9200587 I don't need a fan. Full hamburger in a metal case never had a single.problem in a year without a fan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 11:04:47 2022 No.9202345 >>9200514 >composite

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 11:15:56 2022 No.9202351 >>9202345 ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 20:42:12 2022 No.9203660 File: 2.65 MB, 200x200, mcmahon-disgust.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9202159 >having respect for speed runners

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 20:43:55 2022 No.9203669 >>9203660 not what he said. stop browsing reddit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 20:55:15 2022 No.9203696 >>9200406 I prefer using the MiSTer to a real Sega CD and TurboGrafx 16 CD. Admittedly my real TG16 CD is a PCE Briefcase and a Duo-R. Not 100% sure I prefer the MiSTer over PlayStation, but it's real real close.

Anonymous Tue Aug 23 21:02:52 2022 No.9203720

>>9200535
If you want to run AO486 you need a heatsink and fan. You don't really need anything else. You can get away with buying a $20 7 port MTT usb hub from amazon, but I suggest just getting a MiSTer hub.
You only need the Digital IO is you want Optical Out for Audio. You only need the Analog IO if you want Analog Video/Audio Out.

Anonymous Tue Aug 23 21:03:57 2022 No.9203721

>>9200553
>>9200571
>>9203720
How sturdy are the ports on the board? My inclination is to buy a cheap OTG USB hub and an HDMI to VGA adapter (since I'll be hooking it up to a CRT), but I'm worried about potentially snapping a port off if I'm going to be frequently plugging and unplugging stuff. If that's something to worry about I feel like it may be better to just get the "official" USB hub and I/O board.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 21:04:57 2022 No.9203726 >>9201812 Congrats on your copy pasta meme I just love having to spend nearly a hundred dollars on a Pi Zero 2 W that had a MSRP of $15

Anonymous Tue Aug 23 21:08:12 2022 No.9203734

>>9203721
It's made pretty well. It's not cheaply made, but I put mine into a Boutique VGA Switcher Box that I customized. I prefer not to have the system out in the open and I prefer not touching the ports if I don't have to. The Aluminum case I put it in is a little over built for it, but it looks like a space age desktop computer from 1982.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 23 21:44:17 2022 No.9203816 >>9203721 I've never unplugged my hub from the usb port, why would you need to do that constantly?

Anonymous Wed Aug 24 00:10:03 2022 No.9204095

>>9200406
i had issues with composite/s-video with certain cores

the perks of the mister = you will actually play many systems quite often
boots in less than 3 seconds
you can use any controller you want

weakness:
scalpercity
takes a few hours of setup
looks ugly as shit with all the powerups on it
32x core still had issues when i sold mine (could be fixed by now)

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 01:24:12 2022 No.9204257 >>9204095 Composite/yuv aren't part of the mister feature set, they are hacks that someone came up with to make dumpster CRTs work. Stop implying otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 01:35:21 2022 No.9204289 >>9204257 anon stop the analog iO is literally part of the appeal

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 01:42:38 2022 No.9204303 >>9200456 Yes I use savestates so that I can actually practise the hard parts of the game instead of retreading all the mundane easy parts, thus I get good by using them

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 01:53:17 2022 No.9204327 >>9204289 No you stop. Only RGB/component is officially part of mister project.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 06:31:34 2022 No.9204814 >>9204257 >>9204327 why does the mister attract such autism?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 07:05:31 2022 No.9204849 >>9203669 Only chuds hate reddit. I will browse both for my retro discussions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 07:06:31 2022 No.9204850 >>9204814 It's all a cope for their wasted money.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 07:08:21 2022 No.9204851 >>9204850 What do you consider wasting money?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 07:30:15 2022 No.9204867 >>9204849 Who are chuds?

Anonymous Wed Aug 24 09:44:17 2022 No.9205012

>>9204095
>looks ugly as shit with all the powerups on it
True, and all the overpriced cases don't help, only way to salvage it is itx io boards (that are also enormously overpriced)
>scalpercity
Surely you sold yours for msrp?
>32x core still had issues
Wasn't it released like a month ago
No shit it had issues

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 09:50:18 2022 No.9205023 >>9200520 >speed runs I fucking hate this place

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 14:55:58 2022 No.9205480 Give it to me straight. If I, a relatively tech illiterate fool, buys one of these things, am I just going to get stuck trying to configure it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 17:35:21 2022 No.9205793 >>9205480 If you don’t care about money just buy a preconfigured one, the learning curve for using it once set up is shallow, it’s pretty idiot proof save for specific issues you might have with your tv or controller setup.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 17:39:46 2022 No.9205809 >>9200406 Yes. I don’t give a shit about scan lines though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 17:41:53 2022 No.9205812 File: 48 KB, 600x800, 1588039365987.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9200406 M-M-M-MI-MI MI MiSTER! MiSTER S O Y

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 17:42:55 2022 No.9205814 File: 17 KB, 480x360, snorting gas.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9204867 Its little more than a buzzword used primarily by leftists, especially social democrats and commies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 17:43:07 2022 No.9205816 >>9205812 based

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 18:30:33 2022 No.9205915 >>9205480 usually you just need to run a script from a menu unless they change everything and the script stops working which terrible for usability

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 18:32:26 2022 No.9205916 >>9205012 >True, and all the overpriced cases don't help, only way to salvage it is itx io boards (that are also enormously overpriced) you can build a nice little console like case for about $50. when mines done I'll post it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 18:34:35 2022 No.9205920 I kinda regret buying this thing. I was lead to believe by My Life In Virginity that this shit was accurate. it is not. its way behind bsnes and genesis plus gx.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 20:15:07 2022 No.9206180 >>9205920 How so?

Anonymous Wed Aug 24 20:32:04 2022 No.9206224

>>9200406
>for those who have this a long with real hardware, is the emulation good enough to replace the original hardware with the added bonus of having higher res output, savestates, and scanlines?
Yes. I've sold all my original hardware because the MiSTer is now accurate enough and just does everything better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 24 21:37:23 2022 No.9206352 >>9205916 How?

Anonymous Thu Aug 25 00:08:45 2022 No.9206679
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>>9200406
I actually got a MiSTer so I didn't have to get hardware with everdrives or mods. Gave me a real good reason to bust out my VGA CRT. The only downside to the MiSTer is that it's a huge hassle to get composite out until MikeS releases his native composite breakout board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 01:12:33 2022 No.9206834 >>9205920 bullshit

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 01:28:49 2022 No.9206881 >>9206679 Ironically I don't even have a CRT nor am I looking to get one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 01:31:13 2022 No.9206884 >>9206881 I would agree if you plan on using a modern screen, the mister is probably your best option as you don't need to go through the process of getting a clean picture in original hardware

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 01:38:12 2022 No.9206902 >>9206884 It's what I did. I went through the RGB mod and scaler route for my N64 and it was a hassle already. Don't wanna bother with the rest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 01:41:16 2022 No.9206910 >>9206902 I still prefer original hardware through CRT though

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 02:05:06 2022 No.9206942 >>9206180 >>9206352 >>9206834 run some test roms. or play a superfx game side by side with a real snes. or just play snes doom.

Anonymous Thu Aug 25 02:28:08 2022 No.9206984

>>9200406
I've got a mister. Usually I use it for arcade systems I don't have, but I've tried it side by side to my neo geo, and Sega Genesis, and it seems 100% spot on. I don't have a PC engine or SNES to compare it to, but if I didn't see it setup, you could easily believe it's hardware. To be fair, those are all pretty standard systems to emulate, and most anything can do a respectable job with them now days.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 02:29:09 2022 No.9206987 >>9206679 Man I remember Mark was selling off his collection. He should get a MiSTer. Truxton arcade core is out after all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 03:38:44 2022 No.9207096 >>9206987 damn, how long ago was this? was youtube really his source of income?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 03:56:15 2022 No.9207117 >>9200406 Yes but so is software emulation for the consoles mister can currently do

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 05:03:49 2022 No.9207221 >>9207117 That seems to be the biggest truth in here. Consoles that the MiSTer emulates well are already emulated well enough under software to not make the difference worth ti

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 05:19:29 2022 No.9207253 >>9207221 but it is worth it solely because of input lag. run ahead is garbage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 07:48:58 2022 No.9207495 I just ordered a DE-10 nano directly from the manufacturer and it shipped a few hours later. What is all this bullshit about scalpers driving up prices? Salty poorfags?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 08:22:29 2022 No.9207537 >>9206679 antonia villanueva has a s-video/breakout board for like $35 its the only part of my setup i saved ill repurchase a de-10 once the prices return to earth

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 08:24:20 2022 No.9207540 >>9207495 they come & go in waves the (((chip shortage))) etc you got lucky anonkun cherish it

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 08:50:42 2022 No.9207573 >>9207537 I have that board, composite on it is dogshit (and would be on pretty much any converter) Svideo is good, though, so if your TV can't get RGB it's decent. Still requires analog IO board to work so I recommend using YC cores instead.

Anonymous Thu Aug 25 10:10:17 2022 No.9207641

>>9207221
The main reason I would consider getting one is it seems to be a much easier solution to playing games on a CRT than faffing around trying to hook up my PC. Plus it's a small box, it's portable. The promise of the "most accurate emulation ever" is pretty enticing, but if I want to play games on my LCD TV set up, I'll probably just keep emulating them on my PC.

Anonymous Thu Aug 25 14:48:03 2022 No.9207965
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Use a fucking VGA CRT monitor, either create custom resolutions for each console or use integer V scaling and add scanlines and maybe a composite/svideo filter. It looks pretty kino and I was able to throw away a shitty CRT tv I had.

>inb4 what about my other consoles
For wii, you can get either a zero lag componebt to hdmi and then to vga converter, or there is the mayflash adapter that doesnt scale, just convert the signal to hdmi and then use another converter to vga.

For the other consoles, either a retrotink 2x or 5x if you want the filters, or an ossc if you have them rgb modded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 15:26:32 2022 No.9208049 >>9207965 That's not a TV, and doesn't look the same as a TV.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 16:28:38 2022 No.9208170 >>9207495 did you email their ohio offices and ask for cheaper shipping? I did. saved $8.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 16:31:56 2022 No.9208174 >>9206884 this getting ossc or framemiester will cost the same amount as mister itself

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 16:34:12 2022 No.9208180 >>9207540 you can get them directly from terasec easy now. they stopped supplying distributors and resellers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 20:06:58 2022 No.9208621 >>9200450 This is an ad. You guys gotta be smarter.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 20:15:38 2022 No.9208637 >>9207253 Since the 90's people have been emulating SNES and NES, if 2ms of input lag doesn't ruin Mega Man X then perhaps it's just a good game

Anonymous Thu Aug 25 20:27:53 2022 No.9208656

>>9208621
I wrote that post and if someone paid me to do it I never got the cheque, plus I probably wouldn’t have explicitly said the high price isn’t worth it if money is tight and you have original hardware for everything already. Idiots shouldn’t warn other people to be smarter

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 20:41:14 2022 No.9208679 >>9207965 Might as well just play on LCD

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 21:03:58 2022 No.9208735 >>9200406 It's literally just an emulator that you pay money for. Edge magazine interviewed the makers and found out it's no more accurate and has no less input lag than software emus.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 21:09:30 2022 No.9208747 >>9208621 Why do you niggers shit up the MiSTer thread but give the chink handheld threads a pass? I guarantee you those have more Chinese shills vying for each retard's dollars.

Anonymous Thu Aug 25 22:18:37 2022 No.9208872

>>9208621
for who? terasec? you know they dont like that their product is being used for mister dont you? that thing is heavily subsidized and the whole point is to get more people programming rpgas so they can sell their main products that cost thousands of dollars

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 22:21:33 2022 No.9208876 >>9208735 you pay for the hardware not the emulator same as fucking every emulator anyone uses. I guess you got your pc for free right

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 25 22:25:33 2022 No.9208883 >>9208621 Nice conspiracy theory, where do I sign?

Anonymous Thu Aug 25 22:28:42 2022 No.9208891

>>9206910
Oh yeah if you have the space, time and money OG Hardware is the best.

I really don't wanna bother with stuff like getting an RGB capable NES/Famicom, an 1CHIP SNES console, recapping shit due to video noise and jailbars, bad audio on a number of consoles like Genesis, flashcarts/ODEs, plus multiple switchers for all the RGB shit etc. It's just too much work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 00:19:01 2022 No.9209052 >>9204851 Buying useless shit. Netflix, new phones, brand name shit, processed food.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 00:26:08 2022 No.9209078 >>9209052 >another pooranon trying to make it a virtue i might buy another mister just to throw it in the garbage

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 02:29:00 2022 No.9209331 >>9209052 Assuming I am a millionaire why is any of that not including processed food bad? Being poor is not a virtue.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 02:34:14 2022 No.9209342 >>9209331 >why is Netflix bad the fact you even need to question this proves you are an NPC. get me off this gay earth.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 02:49:52 2022 No.9209372 >>9200406 Honestly? For most people and most situations? Yeah. It's good enough. And way fucking cheaper. You even get analog output if you want it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 02:53:23 2022 No.9209378 >>9208174 not completely true and the upscalers can be used by consoles that the Mister will never be able to replicate

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 02:54:24 2022 No.9209379 >>9209342 did you never rent movies from blockbuster?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 03:09:12 2022 No.9209405 >>9209342 I don't have a Netflix account because I don't watch TV but you are avoiding the question. Everything you listed costs what is a trivial amount of money to me to the point it is a waste of my time to find cheaper alternatives.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 03:16:40 2022 No.9209424 >>9208872 Only guy here with FACTS. The DE-10 is subsidized for academic use. If they weren't subsidized and they were trying to make a profit it would cost 5x what it does.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 03:20:01 2022 No.9209429 >>9208872 >you know they dont like that their product is being used for mister dont you? they're actually ok with it, cause technically its hobbyists using it for development on their platform which is really the purpose of it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 03:23:26 2022 No.9209432 >>9205012 >They don't know about the Multisystem

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 03:27:22 2022 No.9209439 >>9200884 The DE-10 Nano does not require a heatsink nor a fan. Adding them may help prolong the overall lifespan of the FPGA but it is absolutely not required

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 03:29:08 2022 No.9209441 >>9201984 MiSTer is just as shitty if you're not using update-all

Anonymous Fri Aug 26 04:00:51 2022 No.9209489

>>9208891
>Oh yeah if you have the space, time and money OG Hardware is the best.
cope. Even if space, time and money are irrelevant to you, the MiSTer is still better than original hardware. Original hardware has limitations which the MiSTer isn't bound by. Even the sharpest SNES 1Chip Console with the best RGB bypass mod is still blurry as shit compared to the MiSTer. PS1 games can load like x8 faster on MiSTer. Some cores can give framrate boosts which isn't possible on original hardware. The Genesis core has Adaptive Composite, which blurs things that relied on dithering to create transparencies like the waterfalls in Sonic, while keeping everything else sharp. Essentially, you can have your cake and eat it too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 04:04:30 2022 No.9209494 >>9209439 It absolutely does for some cores.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 05:02:14 2022 No.9209583 >>9200406 NES Classic Edition with Hakchi & Retroarch installed is pretty much God-tier. The only limitations might be controllers if you want to do N64 & PS2 games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 05:08:42 2022 No.9209594 File: 9 KB, 480x360, images - 2022-08-26T150736.432.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9209489 >ps1 games load faster with Mister Soulless.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 05:15:24 2022 No.9209606 >>9200450 Isnt ps1 emulation still spotty?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 06:13:38 2022 No.9209712 >>9209594 then turn off the feature. you dont have to.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 06:20:52 2022 No.9209726 >>9209489 ill just stick with the wii nigga

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 06:23:06 2022 No.9209730 >>9207253 This isn’t an issue. If you think you are seeing any kind of noticeable lag on basically any decent software emulation setup of the last 20 years then you put it there to make yourself seethe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 07:49:32 2022 No.9209832 >>9209489 Adaptive dithering is the only thing you listed that normal software emulation doesn't already do better

Anonymous Fri Aug 26 07:55:44 2022 No.9209840

>>9207641
A homebrewed Wii comes pretty close. The only major downside is PSX and arcade emulation are both garbage on Wii but currently are functional on MiSTer. PSX emulation is thankfully still improving on the Wii with PCSXRX but MAME on Wii is pretty dead.

If you dont care about either of those nor the hardware emulation aspect a Wii will get you similar results for a fuckton cheaper.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 08:35:00 2022 No.9209889 >>9209494 No it absolutely does not. You have zero evidence of this beyond anecdotal nonsense. Terasic's own documentation says a heatsink and a fan are not needed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 08:42:33 2022 No.9209894 >>9209432 The case itself is THE ugliest mister case (not to mention 3D printed). The board is included with "enormously overpriced ITX boards"

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 09:25:49 2022 No.9209950 >>9209441 Who doesn't use update_all?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 09:27:25 2022 No.9209953 >>9209494 Totally false. I use a heatsink but never a fan and I play ao486, a1200 and psx all the time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 09:30:56 2022 No.9209961 >>9209439 What affects lifespan is thermal cycles. I leave mine all all the time it uses so little power. What DOES wreck them is using those ching chong inline switches, they cause a serious drop in voltage.

Anonymous Fri Aug 26 10:17:56 2022 No.9210000

>>9209889
Well, I can add more "anecdotal nonsense": I ran it for a while without a heatsink or fan and it was perfectly fine... except for the ao486 core which was a bit crashy. When I finally got my IO board I put the heatsink and fan on and the very same ao486 core unmodified with the same HD image now ran fine. (Well, as fine as ao486 ever runs, point being it didn't just fuck up anymore.)

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 10:18:00 2022 No.9210001 >>9206679 You don't need any of that shit https://youtu.be/DBy_XPmieKc

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 11:01:33 2022 No.9210026 >>9210001 >you don't need all that shit but need a buch of other shit Oh yeah much easier.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 11:13:48 2022 No.9210035 >>9209489 Nah, original hardware is still king Mister is more like backwards compatibility

Anonymous Fri Aug 26 12:00:09 2022 No.9210086

>>9200406
What's the state of vector arcade emulation on the MiSTer? Last I looked there was *maybe* a DAC board but it was hidden away behind a facebook group, and I don't do facebook. Same goes for the color vector CRT retrofit stuff.
I have a brand-new Pelco 21" B&W CRT waiting in its box to have the deflection coils rewound and a new deflection board added. I wanna play Asteroids Deluxe in all its vector glory.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 12:17:59 2022 No.9210113 >>9210086 >What's the state of vector arcade emulation on the MiSTer? It outputs the graphics of emulated machines as raster, it couldn't drive a real vector display right now.

Anonymous Fri Aug 26 12:57:20 2022 No.9210153

>>9209489
Nigga like I said I have a MiSTer and it runs just as good as OG hardware, but the feeling of turning on an actual console can't be beat. Besides, I don't care about boosting load speeds or enhancements, I got the MiSTer for authenticity, if I wanted enhancements might as well just emulate on a mini PC.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 12:58:39 2022 No.9210154 >>9210035 Good analogy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 13:00:31 2022 No.9210158 >>9209832 Don't Mdapt and Gdapt on Retroarch achieve the same thing and perform even better?

Anonymous Fri Aug 26 13:18:49 2022 No.9210179

>>9210153
as dumb as this sounds, turning on the SNES Classic was such a good feeling. it was literally the same as an SNES. it's so dumb.
that said, i dont even use my SNES Classic and i do prefer this fpgay stuff. quality too good and convenience too goodWRMSY

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 13:25:25 2022 No.9210187 >>9210179 I get the same feeling with my NES classic, if the emulation wasn't trash I'd use it exclusively for NES. I use the controllers on MiSTer so it was worth it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 13:28:18 2022 No.9210192 >>9210179 >those last 5 letters wow i fucked up

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 13:35:27 2022 No.9210202 >>9209606 Noticed zero issues playing 80+ games, the core is officially rolled out now, you might be thinking of the unstable build. I’m sure there are still issues with certain games here and there but it’s been flawless with everything I tried.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 13:41:19 2022 No.9210215 >>9210202 Sure anon, you really had the time to play 80 games on a defective core

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 14:39:47 2022 No.9210312 >>9210215 He probably just tested a bunch of games he likes and only played some to completion

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 14:43:46 2022 No.9210316 >>9200456 They hated him for he told the truth

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 14:50:36 2022 No.9210325 >>9200406 there's no use reasoning with hardwarefags emulation could progress to a state in which it practically turns games into HD remakes and they will still say their rotting plastic toys are better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 14:51:29 2022 No.9210326 >>9200456 Ultra based. Making niggers and zoomers seethe endlessly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 14:56:59 2022 No.9210334 >>9210325 >he likes HD remakes There are really people on this board like this

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 14:57:34 2022 No.9210335 >>9210334 nice cope hardwaretranny

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 15:19:58 2022 No.9210354 >>9210335 No thanks, I’ll just play games instead

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 15:38:08 2022 No.9210379 >>9210325 >turns games into HD remakes I'd stick to my rotting toys in that case for sure. Thankfully mister doesn't do that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 15:48:50 2022 No.9210394 >>9210325 You are paying for something that can be achieved through software emulation. >fpga is even more accurate Yeah, undoubtedly, but for practical applications its still a waste of cash. Playing said games HD is just a scapegoat for boredom.

Anonymous Fri Aug 26 15:55:47 2022 No.9210404

>>9210325
>>emulation could progress to a state in which it practically turns games into HD remakes
Sounds fucking awful.

I like MiSTer because it gives me the same experience with minor improvements, if I wanted upscaled garbage with AI generated assets I'd play the "remastered" versions of these games.

>>9210394
I'm paying for something that can't be achieved through software emulation, though. Find me a software emulator that lets me use my light guns.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 16:29:24 2022 No.9210451 >>9210325 Almost as if "better" is entirely subjective and people will enjoy whatever they want

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 16:32:09 2022 No.9210459 >>9210404 >Find me a software emulator that lets me use my light guns. Not to mention I can use a goddamn link cable and trade pokemon with my gameboys. Shit's amazing. Emulafags just can't comprehend this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 16:35:31 2022 No.9210463 >>9210215 >>9210312 312 is right, I obviously didn’t play all of them to completion, do I really need to 100% bust a move again to be able to say it works flawlessly? The core is also official now, it’s not unstable and nothing about it is defective

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 19:18:23 2022 No.9210746 File: 8 KB, 488x315, 31vKFpXQghL._AC_SY580_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9209961 inline switches are stupid. all you need is one of these

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 19:35:48 2022 No.9210770 >>9208747 Maybe these anti mister retards are chink shills.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 19:39:04 2022 No.9210773 >>9209953 Why wouldn't you just add a fucking fan? Are you retarded? >>9209889 The A0486 core absolutely does and if you don't also run a fan on the heat sink you're retarded. You're probably someone completely fine with their GPU running at 90C.

Anonymous Fri Aug 26 19:40:24 2022 No.9210776

Mister with OEM controllers via raphnet adaptors has replaced original hardware for me. I'm a stickler for emulation hiccups and I can't tell any noticable difference between my mister setup on a CRT vs my actual hardware, and it gave me access to a few things I didn't already have like the neo geo and the super gameboy. The response time is perfect, there's no audio delay like software emulation, no settings to mess with, just instantly works with my original controllers (R4 instantly detected and switched over to my NeGcon just like real hardware), it's great. Not sure what reason people would have to dislike it so much

Anonymous Fri Aug 26 20:21:30 2022 No.9210839
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>>9209961
Really? I have a RPi here, but I cheaped out and went with a chink power supply. Sometimes, it has trouble powering on the board and only a black screen appears after the initial bios splash. The issue is gone since I've replaced it with an official power adapter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 20:23:14 2022 No.9210845 >>9200406 what is this, all i got from a quick search is a diy gaming console.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 20:37:36 2022 No.9210876 >>9210773 Please point to the datasheet from either Terasic or Intel that says a fan and/or a heatsink is required. You can't, because it doesn't exist. It's not required. The chip is good up to 100C.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 20:38:25 2022 No.9210878 >>9210876 It's required for peace of mind.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 20:46:21 2022 No.9210890 >>9210876 Pull your thumb out of your ass and deep throat it. Fuck You

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 21:01:17 2022 No.9210916 >>9210890 If you're going to sit in front of the computer and sperg out over this, at least have a single shred of proof to back it up. >>9210878 Facts don't care about your feelings.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 21:07:19 2022 No.9210927 >>9210916 But my feelings don't care about your facts

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 21:18:10 2022 No.9210950 >>9210845 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiSTer

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 21:21:52 2022 No.9210959 >>9210876 They've also tested them for industrial application and there's some insane MTBF. They're solid about the only things that go wrong are from stressing them physically plugging stuff in, or killing them electrically with shit power.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 21:29:14 2022 No.9210984 >>9210773 Who wants a noisy fan if it doesn't need it? Let me guess you're a PC ricer who thinks that parts running in spec is a problem?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 21:37:55 2022 No.9210997 >>9210984 Why wouldn't a component manufacture stretch the truth about their products specs so that the component fails with in a year or two of the warranty period so they can sell another? Do you think these companies have morals?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 22:04:01 2022 No.9211032 >>9210404 >Find me a software emulator that lets me use my light guns. RPi4 can do that up to Dreamcast games

Anonymous Fri Aug 26 22:04:59 2022 No.9211035

>>9210997
Because they'd get a reputation for parts that fail unreasonably early. These fpga chips are used in actual industrial applications by actual engineers and I've seen that Intel tested the cyclone fpga for 2.1 million hours without a single failure.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 22:07:59 2022 No.9211042 >>9210984 Noctua fans definitely aren’t noisy I replaced my Dreamcast fan with one and it’s dead silent now

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 22:09:46 2022 No.9211047 >>9211042 They definitely aren't needed either.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 22:19:21 2022 No.9211069 >>9210839 Yes good power is the best policy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 22:25:05 2022 No.9211083 >>9211047 That’s fine but component’s running hot will degrade faster than if they’re cooled

Anonymous Fri Aug 26 22:28:39 2022 No.9211091
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>>9211083
Based on what evidence? Thermal cycles do cause mechanical failure but static heat within spec very unlikely. These are 5w industrial parts not 250w duo2cuo housefires.

Pic related stress testing no heatsink no fan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 22:45:26 2022 No.9211135 >>9210927 Darn... That's actually logical.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 22:49:24 2022 No.9211139 >>9210950 I see. I wouldn't buy one but I can see the appeal of owning one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 22:54:12 2022 No.9211146 >>9211091 Sure, in an open setting for just the de10 What about it being sandwiched and in a box?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 23:07:54 2022 No.9211163 >>9211146 Maybe it'll die in 150 years instead of 250.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 26 23:22:08 2022 No.9211184 >>9209712 >HUR DUR YOU'RE DUMB FOR NOT KNOWING HOW TO SPEND HOURS OF YOUR LIFE SETTING UP EVERY INDIVIDUAL GAME ON MAME There's nothing that screams fun more than having to toggle features every time I start a new game. How envious I am of emulators.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 01:10:42 2022 No.9211423 >>9211047 but plenty of people have reported glitchy results playing certain games and cmrhxyores without cooling

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 01:13:33 2022 No.9211428 >>9211423 >cmrhxyores so thats where my captcha entry went lol

Anonymous Sat Aug 27 02:02:37 2022 No.9211540

>>9210459
>Not to mention I can use a goddamn link cable and trade pokemon with my gameboys. Shit's amazing. Emulafags just can't comprehend this.
You can do that with software emulation. The only legit thing is that dude sperging about lightgun for games that are legit shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 02:15:35 2022 No.9211569 >>9211423 I've never had any issue. I left ao486 running doom for a few days in the middle of summer with no fan, no problem.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 02:49:30 2022 No.9211672 File: 689 KB, 980x1338, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9211569 but the cool RGB leds from the fan looks so good

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 03:14:00 2022 No.9211728 >>9211672 Fan = fag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 03:35:12 2022 No.9211763 >>9211728 thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 03:55:28 2022 No.9211801 >>9207537 >lll repurchase a de-10 once the prices return to earth will happen whenever the MiSTer2 is developed, which is probably another 10-15 years away. Get it while you can DESU

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 04:08:31 2022 No.9211819 File: 225 KB, 1080x1038, Screenshot_20220827-140757.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9211801

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 04:11:28 2022 No.9211827 >>9211184 It's not on by default, dumbass. You'd have to enable it first.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 04:12:32 2022 No.9211830 >>9211819 >most of my cores >most but not all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 04:13:22 2022 No.9211831 >>9211830 You get what you pay for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 16:12:47 2022 No.9212819 File: 648 KB, 1217x800, mihoshi and some one else.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] works well enough for me to be epic at gunstar heroes https://youtu.be/u5Xvh1lVLLo

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 16:15:30 2022 No.9212826 >>9211569 you have your board just out in the open?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 16:23:44 2022 No.9212839 >people really think $260 for a mister + memory module is too expensive for all the shit you get lol meanwhile you fags pay $500 for earthbound

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 16:58:52 2022 No.9212902 you need a case for this or is it okay to just have the board out in the open air?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 17:13:07 2022 No.9212925 >>9212902 Worst case it gets a bit of dust on it, I wouldn't really worry about it. I haven't cleaned my PC for 10+ years, it all works fine. Worst case you might get 1 extra degree temps.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 17:37:31 2022 No.9212970 >>9212925 no worse case is static killing the board

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 17:43:36 2022 No.9212978 >>9212970 People who don't live in the third world have this wonderful thing called grounding.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 17:57:59 2022 No.9212991 >>9212902 i ran mine without a case for 2 years, just dont be a retard and put a bunch of shit around it

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 18:01:10 2022 No.9212997 >>9212902 It will look like shit but nothing is gonna happen to it. I would consider putting it in a computer case once someone makes an ITX IO board that doesn't somehow cost more than de10 itself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 18:01:12 2022 No.9212998 >>9212902 You can DYI a case pretty easily, I remember an anon around here who would put a bucket on top of it after use, kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 18:02:16 2022 No.9213001 >>9212997 You can 3D print an ITX adapter + I/O shield and use extension cables.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 18:05:09 2022 No.9213009 >>9213001 Got links to the model?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 18:37:31 2022 No.9213069 >>9213009 https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4738986 I used it for my build and it worked pretty well

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 19:31:03 2022 No.9213217 >>9209378 sure you can go that route but it's gonna be insanely expensive even for 1 off systems - each machine/console will need rgb/scart mod of some sort, atleast an upscaler is better than console specific upscaling cables

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 19:40:49 2022 No.9213242 >>9211819 >sidi $121 Super Nintendo SNES Genesis / Megadrive PC-Engine / SuperGrafx Sega Master System NES GameBoy CPS1 from Jotego not bad

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 19:41:57 2022 No.9213246 >>9212902 mine is just in the default board with risers since all the case projects are on preorder

Anonymous Sat Aug 27 19:58:12 2022 No.9213294
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>>9200609
>Once upon a time I had to put money into arcades in smoke filled rooms.
This is the life I wish I could've lived and it makes me very depressed when people gloss over it like that. Imagine being a zoomer and your friends only wanting to play shit like Fortnite. I wish I had your life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 20:08:31 2022 No.9213316 >>9213242 That's pretty damn good

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 20:10:52 2022 No.9213323 >>9213294 Grass is always greener.

Anonymous Sat Aug 27 20:14:26 2022 No.9213337

>>9213323
You got to enjoy life before social media and smartphones fucked everything up. Don't try and act like your life wasn't objectively better. This "grass is always greener" shit stops making sense when you actually compare life back then to life now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 20:15:39 2022 No.9213341 Was anyone able to get there hands on a mistercade? How accurate is it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 20:16:16 2022 No.9213345 >>9213337 Ok zoomie, that's enough of 'i was born in the wrong generation'. this isn't fucking youtube comment sections.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 20:16:52 2022 No.9213347 >>9213341 >how accurate is it retard, it's as accurate as any other mister because that's all it is with additional hookups to use it on a cab

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 20:22:19 2022 No.9213361 >>9213345 Maybe it's better I had to suffer, so I never end up being a mouthbreathing dickhead like (you)

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 20:23:44 2022 No.9213368 >>9213361 yeah yeah, zoom along kid.

Anonymous Sat Aug 27 20:28:36 2022 No.9213389

>>9213337
zoomie you weren't alive back then so how can you say life was better? Literally growing up the decade before you was the same shit except everyone played CoD. And the decade before that everyone only played FIFA/Madden. And the decade before that normies didn't play games at all.

You don't have to engage with social media at all. nobody is making you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 20:32:52 2022 No.9213408 >>9213069 Thanks, I was looking for something like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 20:47:01 2022 No.9213436 >>9211032 Wait arcade games too ? I'm obviously thinking hotd. With a guncon 2 I guess? And maybe an rgb-pi ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 20:58:45 2022 No.9213452 >>9209331 >being poor is not a virtue I wouldn't say I'm poor I just try my best not to blow my money on junk as most people I know are in debt yet still buy all this shit. Enjoy your Blizzard subscriptions and your Jordan shoes then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 21:00:02 2022 No.9213453 any good processing settings? right now on my 4ktv i'm using High Contrast MG preset with shadowmask: Complex > Other > Other > MG Wave

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 21:06:54 2022 No.9213464 >>9200609 >Once upon a time I had to put money into arcades in smoke filled rooms. Tell me you're a larping zoomie without telling me you're a larping zoomie

Anonymous Sat Aug 27 21:27:28 2022 No.9213509

>>9213464
You used to be able to smoke in Arcades through most of the 80s. I remember going to Arcades in Vegas in the early 90s that still had smokers in them. Japan still allowed smoking in Arcades as recently as a few years ago.
You must be 13 to post here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 21:28:47 2022 No.9213515 >>9213341 What are you talking about, zoomie LGR subscriber? Mistercade has been available for over a year, it's just a Mister sandwiched onto a JAMMA interface. It's exactly the same as every other Mister.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 22:14:07 2022 No.9213613 >>9213509 Arcades were mostly filled with kids though. I can recall playing old arcade games in a pub as a little kid but I am still unsure if indoor smoking was still a thing back then in the late 80s here in Australia.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 22:43:51 2022 No.9213674 >>9213613 Not in the US they weren't. And it varied based on the location. In Vegas, it was mostly children. Outside of Vegas, unless the arcade was in an amusement park or a mall, there audience was almost entirely teenagers and young adults.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 22:51:03 2022 No.9213685 >>9213613 I was smoking indoors at restaurants and malls as late as 2000. Smoked at school in the 80s I still have a McDonald's ashtray somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 27 23:05:47 2022 No.9213729 >>9209583 you're a fucking psychopath, how do you even live with the input lag?

Anonymous Sat Aug 27 23:22:43 2022 No.9213769
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>>9200406
I think so. Being an open platform and its wide availability means it can be much more easily replaced than finding someone who can service original hardware. Much less costly too by comparison. It makes you wonder why don't they make them as add-in boards for computer expansion.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 00:02:29 2022 No.9213851 >>9211819 everyone should look into these now, de10 fags on suiwatch

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 00:26:18 2022 No.9213898 >>9200406 That's a waste of money. PC's are the best route for emulation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 00:33:39 2022 No.9213919 >>9213898 >emukid Beat it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 00:46:18 2022 No.9213942 File: 3.85 MB, 272x498, 1659974565759.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Should I tell them that there's a specific IO board that outputs composite and has a trimmer that you can adjust to suit the output/timings of each core? nahh

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 00:48:15 2022 No.9213947 >>9213851 no sega cd, no gba, no ps1, no saturn, no sank you

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 00:54:13 2022 No.9213954 >>9213898 mister is the only way I can achieve 100% video/audio stutter free emulation

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 01:29:20 2022 No.9214037 >>9213942 What has to be wrong with you to save that gif? Like, what kind of dysfunction do you need to be going through?

Anonymous Sun Aug 28 01:38:01 2022 No.9214051

>>9213408
No problem. Another tip, look into "momentary to latching" adapters so you can wire up the PC case's power button. It translates the momentary button press from a PC power button to a permanent on/off command. You'll just need some extra arrel plugs but no solder is needed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 02:09:14 2022 No.9214115 >>9213919 Stay triggered miSTer. Lol >>9213954 Emulation on my PC runs perfectly. Maybe yours isn't nearly as powerful as mine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 02:12:23 2022 No.9214125 >>9214115 no emulator uses over 20% of my system resources. its not a matter of power, but of synchonization.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 02:49:40 2022 No.9214207 >>9214115 >Emulation on my PC runs perfectly. Maybe yours isn't nearly as powerful as mine. you're just a retarded faggot that doesn't notice it, probably suck at games

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 03:01:11 2022 No.9214228 Is the Saturn core in a good state yet or is it still a work in progress?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 03:06:26 2022 No.9214231 >>9214037 How is Bryan Cranston dancing a weird gif to save? Not even him that gif is rad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 03:08:53 2022 No.9214236 >>9214231 I don't think that's actually Bryan Cranston anon

Anonymous Sun Aug 28 03:10:52 2022 No.9214237

>>9206352
I'm making one using this: https://a.co/d/8McliqY
they sell them under a bunch of different names but they are all the same. the 230 x 185 x 100mm sized ones are perfect. just some brand/name sellers package them better than others so if yours comes damaged return it and try another "brand".

you drill four holes in the bottom and use the screws and spacers that came with the de10 nano to secure it there.

you drill appropriate sized holes in the front and back panels using a step bit for the usb(s), hdmi, and ethernet ports which you fill with these:
https://mou.sr/3coY5Em
https://mou.sr/3wADILz
https://mou.sr/3QYdlHk

I'm doing two usb in the front, and one usb in the back above the ethernet port for when I use a wireless usb dongle instead of wired lan.

Then you buy the necessary cables to connect from the board to the panel mounts.

for multiple usb panel mounts use this:
https://a.co/d/ftWd8il

its smaller than the makerspot one that usually gets recommended. plug that into the de10 nano and secure it the case by epoxying velcro to it and the case. then connect it to all your usb ports with these: https://a.co/d/cLMVAcT

you need a hole in the rear panel for the power supply cord which you can secure there with a cable gland.

and last the hardest part is cutting a hole in top for a 80 or 120mm Noctua 5v case fan which will be powered by the de10 nano gpio pins.

you can use a hole saw of the appropriate size or cut a square hole using a nibbler, or cut out a hole by drilling a bunch of holes in a line then filing your awful mess

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 03:26:03 2022 No.9214262 >>9214237 oh one thing I forgot. this: https://a.co/d/22RUiZB so you dont have exposed fan blades and itll keep dust out.

Anonymous Sun Aug 28 04:03:52 2022 No.9214331

Watching emufags screech about things they know nothing about and have never experienced reminds me of retards who have only ever seen a 60hz display in their life calling high refresh VRR a scam. How can someone have the audacity to double down on their retardation like this when they're completely ignorant and have no idea what the fuck they're even talking about?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 04:09:28 2022 No.9214342 >>9214331 that's a lot of projection there anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 05:54:09 2022 No.9214545 >>9214207 Stay triggered anon, your tears are delicious. Not my fault that you can't afford a high end custom built PC.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 08:22:13 2022 No.9214768 >>9214545 https://youtu.be/5ZTS04rVOn0

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 08:34:15 2022 No.9214781 Someone talk me into biting the bullet and buying this. Seeing PSX and Saturn cores means I know I will eventually.

Anonymous Sun Aug 28 08:44:52 2022 No.9214791
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>>9214781
I'll do the opposite. Buy original hardware as real gamers never accept substitutes. Mister shills would have you believe their product is actually better than playing on the real mccoy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 08:48:01 2022 No.9214795 File: 245 KB, 1079x712, Screenshot_20220828-025306_Chrome.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9214791

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 08:48:32 2022 No.9214796 >>9214791 I have real hardware I recommend using this if you plan on playing with a modern screen

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 09:05:33 2022 No.9214823 >>9214795 >>9214796 I don't get it. I'm a zoomer into vinyl? Is it dude also playing at that arcade this as well? >modern screen No clue why anyone would retro on anything but a crt.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 09:10:16 2022 No.9214830 >>9214823 >I'll do the opposite. Buy original vinyl as real audiophiles never accept substitutes. Digital media shills would have you believe their product is actually better than listening on the real mccoy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 09:52:17 2022 No.9214873 >>9214823 I have no idea why anyone would want to play on a CRT at this point either than misguided nostalgia.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:01:22 2022 No.9214883 >>9214873 the same reason you don't play VHS tapes on a 4K screen

Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:11:37 2022 No.9214896

>>9214883
Poor and invalid comparison.VHS is terrible at any res.
A decent emulated game will look fine on a 4k screen and be indistinguishable from the original apart from the autist who pretends he can sense lag. If you like the original hardware great but don’t pretend that a CRT is of any more quality.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:15:11 2022 No.9214903 >>9214896 >invalid because I say so ok

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:20:57 2022 No.9214910 >>9214873 Play DKC on a emulator without filters, and then play it on an actual CRT TV.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:21:48 2022 No.9214913 >>9214830 I know nothing about music so thanks for the analogy I still sodon'fully understand.

Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:22:29 2022 No.9214914

>>9214903
I’ve given you my opinion and it’s a well condiered one.
Refute it. If you could you wouldn’t need to resort to shitty green text. The comparison is meaningless.
However I can play this game too and continue to lower the level of posting to your standard.
>fuck you anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:23:34 2022 No.9214916 >>9214914 >my opinion supersedes yours because it does ok

Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:23:40 2022 No.9214917

>>9214896
There are vhs tapes that are better than DVD and blu ray to this day. Off the top of my head Akira and Star Wars are better on vhs. Pretty sure vhs Star Wars isn't polluted with the Nu changes but I don't recall why Akira vhs was a hot product.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:23:40 2022 No.9214918 >>9214910 Doesn’t bother me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:23:53 2022 No.9214919 >>9214873 It looks better, simple as.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:24:41 2022 No.9214923 >>9214916 Yes. Also it’s a fact.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:25:35 2022 No.9214925 File: 50 KB, 608x342, images - 2022-08-28T202500.716.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9214919 >EVERYBODY STOP PLAYING. MY 4K MONITOR LOOKS BETTER

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:25:42 2022 No.9214926 >>9214919 It doesn’t.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:28:07 2022 No.9214927 File: 22 KB, 440x248, images - 2022-08-28T202636.376.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9214873 >misguided nostalgia Really? You'd chose emulation over an arcade cabinet if givin the choice? Be real with yourself yourself once.

Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:28:30 2022 No.9214930

>>9200456
So back in the 90s, people would typically only have a few games for whatever console they had. Playing the same levels repeatedly was just how it was, what other choice did you have? I remember renting snes games from video stores and that would be my weekend.

Things are different now. I have hundreds of games I can access immediately, most kids have even more. As soon as they stop having fun with one, they'll just boot up another, then another, then another etc. Save states could be the only reason they finish some of these games. And honestly I'm impressed with my childhood self for sitting through games like Castlevania 3 and Super Star Wars without save states. How did I have so much patience?

Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:33:56 2022 No.9214936
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However you can get it man. Most of my retro gaming is emulated these days. It's not as optimal as playing on original hardware of course, but it's close enough, and is way more convenient.

Although I typically just emulate right on my PC or a modded console, I haven't bought dedicated hardware for it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:34:36 2022 No.9214937 >>9214926 Even if it didn't look better imretro games were designed around crt and nobody wants your modern TV bullshit. I'm sorry you bought an expensive TV but stop trying to cope with it by telling us it's superior.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:36:04 2022 No.9214939 >>9214936 You're the first non delusional emulation fan I have ever seen on /vr/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:40:03 2022 No.9214945 >>9214937 >nobody wants your modern TV bullshit. I'm sorry you bought an expensive TV but stop trying to cope with it No need to hate one method if you like another, otherwise you sound exactly like him

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:40:30 2022 No.9214946 >>9214927 No, I don’t want one of those. I played enough of them back in the day and I don’t think there’s any gain over a comfortable setup in my house on a modern TV.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:41:48 2022 No.9214949 >>9214945 CRT autists started the war. >>9214823

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:43:31 2022 No.9214951 >>9214949 there was no animosity at that comment

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:50:41 2022 No.9214962 File: 2.15 MB, 1920x1080, mostly.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9213509 >You used to be able to larp on the 4chin without being called out

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:50:42 2022 No.9214963 >>9214951 Personally I don’t know why VHS was mentioned, other than that play on whatever screen you like but don’t pretend there’s going to much quality difference.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:52:29 2022 No.9214967 All 4chan boards would significantly benefit from removal of green text.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 10:59:59 2022 No.9214983 >>9214963 there's no pretending, but you do you mate

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 11:03:24 2022 No.9214985 >>9214983 I agree, why pretend an ancient CRT is of any use.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 11:03:34 2022 No.9214986 >>9214967 go back

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 11:04:25 2022 No.9214987 >>9214986 Boards would benefit from you leaving too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 11:06:52 2022 No.9214989 >>9214985 I thought you said you didn't care clearly you are invested in hating the visual medium

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 11:35:02 2022 No.9215015 >>9214989 Never.

Anonymous Sun Aug 28 12:09:47 2022 No.9215051

>>9214939
In the early 2000s, it was the only way I could play a lot of the oddball or Japan-only games you wouldn't normally find in a retro store. I was in middle school and I didn't have any money or a credit card to buy games off the internet with.

My two fondest emulation memories are of playing bucky'o'hare for the NES, and mother 3 for the GBA. It was also fun to download a bunch of titles and sample them. It felt like way too much power for a kid, haha.

But yeah, I don't participate in hardware holy wars. I only care about having a good time with my games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 12:28:30 2022 No.9215067 >>9214987 >I am a faggot I think i'll stick around just to annoy (you) faggot

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 13:44:53 2022 No.9215153 >>9214791 Agreed. The MiSTer is a scam.

>>	Joeschmoe Sun Aug 28 14:33:30 2022 No.9215202 >>9214925 fuck off bitch! Everyone knows modern screens are better. People only played crt because it was the only option. Go back to a museum lol

Anonymous Sun Aug 28 14:52:32 2022 No.9215230

>>9214927
I was glad see crts go away after using them for 25 years. fucking disgusting warped geometry fucking awful fishbowl curved screens or you have to have two horizontal black lines going across the screen if youre using a flat crt. garbage outdated tech. good riddance

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 14:55:52 2022 No.9215234 I'm loving the seethe that CRT's cause this autist that keeps pretending he's multiple people it's pretty funny

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 14:59:04 2022 No.9215236 >>9214910 Just think for a second. You'te trying to argue objectively about something that is completely subjective. What you believe is the best is only best for yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 15:32:39 2022 No.9215286 >>9215236 It's a pretty objective fact that a CRT TV softens the image, which better creates the illusion that you're looking at these 3D characters in a 3D space, rather than a bunch of pixelated sprites.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 15:35:37 2022 No.9215292 >>9215230 >fishbowl curved screens Did you grow up in the 60's or something? I don't think I've ever seen one of those.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 16:37:10 2022 No.9215394 Playing on original hardware is for retarded manchildren.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 16:47:32 2022 No.9215406 >>9215394 >manchildren And you think the target audience of a ~$350 enthusiast DIY setup for playing retro console games is well-adjusted adults?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 16:50:50 2022 No.9215413 >>9215406 Yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 17:03:32 2022 No.9215432 >>9215394 Playing on a MiSTer is for cheapskates who can't afford original hardware.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 17:10:04 2022 No.9215441 File: 9 KB, 265x327, olh9nrobmyetylknqv4w.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9215432 As you can see from my 30 year old electronics purchased from flea markets, I am not poor.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 17:20:54 2022 No.9215460 >>9215432 MiSTer is for normal well-adjusted adults who don't want to have a room full of rotting plastic, but don't want software emulation either. Has nothing to do with price. If price was a factor, they'd just go full software emulation.

Anonymous Sun Aug 28 17:21:00 2022 No.9215461

>>9214896
>VHS is terrible at any res
Absolute nonsense, VHS can actually look pretty decent. But it looks terrible on anything not a CRT. Motion is so crisp and smooth on VHS, we have been watching low quality digital video for so long now, we have forgotten how good video can look without motion artifacts.

Anonymous Sun Aug 28 17:45:11 2022 No.9215509

>>9215441
Flea markets? I highly doubt you'll fine a SNES or a Dreamcast that isn't yellowed or deyellowed there.

>>9215460
I've had my 8 bit & 16 bit consoles for over 30 years, they're not rotting at all. I've had my PS1, Saturn, N64 & Dreamcast for over 20 years & they're not rotting either. The only reason to own a MiSTer is...1) You don't have a PC because you now use a tablet or cell phone to access the internet. 2) To save space in your small apartment or dorm room. 3) consoles are too expensive to own physically due to inflation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 18:27:48 2022 No.9215563 >>9215460 >Mister is for people who want to be elitist over snake oil but don't want to pay real money for it

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 19:40:23 2022 No.9215704 >>9214791 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X20KxqTPAY

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 19:41:23 2022 No.9215706 >>9214925 everyone quit this for multiversus

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 19:48:42 2022 No.9215721 >>9214910 First time I played DKC on original hardware I got shocked how little I can actually see. Any other snes game is fine but DKC is so dark I can't make out shit, especially when it rains.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 22:17:03 2022 No.9216005 >>9215704 >Mister is an eceleb meme Now it makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 23:22:28 2022 No.9216137 >>9215721 ? Wot

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 28 23:48:21 2022 No.9216171 >>9215706 In ten years time Smash will still be played while multiverse is forgotten

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 29 01:56:41 2022 No.9216474 Will there ever be a way to overclock on the Neo Geo core? I like the slowdown on Cave games but got too used to not having it on the Metal Slug games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 29 04:19:07 2022 No.9216709 >>9216005 >eceleb >deduced from a vid with 8000 views Not that I'm accusing you of projecting; I'm sure there's a valid argument in there somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 29 04:44:54 2022 No.9216746 >>9208876 But you get nothing for buying a mister. You already have a pc. Both are inferior to real hardware. Mister is just a scam

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 29 06:57:20 2022 No.9216932 File: 70 KB, 614x890, Mike_Matei8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9216746 Casual detected.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 29 07:02:44 2022 No.9216942 >>9216932 Did you see a mirror?

Anonymous Mon Aug 29 15:27:02 2022 No.9217765

>>9216746
I get to play without video stutter, screen tearing, audio crackling or noticable audio delay. I am unable to play most emulator s on my pc without 1 or 2 of those. Its also an adder bonus of using like 5% of the electricity I would playing the same game on my pc. and goddamn does it feel good just to switch on the mister and start playing. heres how it goes with pc:
sit at pc
turn on monitor
turn on pc
wait 15 seconds to boot (fuck fast boot)
launch emulator
load game
fullscreen game
turn off monitor
move to tv
turn on tv
sit and play game
FUCK WHY IS THERE A MOUSE CURSOR
getup and move back to pc
move mouse to the right so cursor is offscreen
go back to tv

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 29 15:29:47 2022 No.9217774 >>9217765 >i don't know how to configure retroarch it's okay if you can't but just say that instead

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 29 15:40:21 2022 No.9217806 >>9217774 >I dont know about sychonization and audio and screen buffers so sick of you faggots

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 29 15:43:33 2022 No.9217812 >>9217806 yes that's what you need to be aware of when configuring silly

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 29 15:53:20 2022 No.9217831 >>9216932 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vME1aQrGGQ Here's a real hardcore gamer. Stop watching manbabies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 29 16:09:19 2022 No.9217870 >>9215286 That's true, but the preference may vary. I can hate "softened" pixels and think sharp ones are better, or vice-versa. So you can't say one or the other is better, ni matter how much you try, it can only ve better for yourself

Anonymous Mon Aug 29 16:17:10 2022 No.9217885

>>9214930
>Things are different now. I have hundreds of games I can access immediately, most kids have even more. As soon as they stop having fun with one, they'll just boot up another, then another, then another etc. Save states could be the only reason they finish some of these games

if kids have so many options available, then why is it so necessary that every game be beaten? Why does every game need to be consumed in that same way?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 29 16:36:14 2022 No.9217934 >>9217870 DKC in particular is supposed to look seamless though. Seeing those graphics in too sharp detail breaks the illusion of what they were going for.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 29 16:51:24 2022 No.9217957 >>9217885 despite having terabytes of roms and pirated games, hundreds of ps2, 360, and ps4 discs, I still play one game at a time. I play one game and only one game until I'm done with it. Often beating it more than once if necessary to 100% it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 29 23:07:43 2022 No.9218731 >>9216474 The slowdown on certain cave games is literally programmed in, it's intentional

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 29 23:09:53 2022 No.9218740 how autistic do I need to be to perceive a difference between fpga and a good software emulator?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 29 23:14:19 2022 No.9218754 >>9218740 casuals would never notice, if you're good at games or familiar with original hardware and how much slowdown they should have (especially arcade), you'd probably notice and it will begin to annoy you

Anonymous Tue Aug 30 00:21:58 2022 No.9218901

>>9218754
I don't really notice it, even with familiar games. There are plenty of titles I've beaten on an emulator that I never could on og hardware. However, being an emufag since 1998, I'd be lying if I said there aren't horrid setups people choose to play with. I've seen quite my share of half-second input/audio lag. Those people didn't really care, but I did. Granted, my setup definetely should have certain amount of lag, but it's low enough for me to don't notice it. And that's fine, since I'm the one who's playing. Sucks to be an overly sensitive (to the matter) person though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 30 08:59:09 2022 No.9219834 >>9218740 Extremely, and even then, it'd probably only bother you on 1, maybe 2 titles tops that you've spent months speedrunning.

Anonymous Tue Aug 30 10:44:27 2022 No.9219946

I decided to buy a MiSTer to see what the fuss was all about.
Typically I play retro on original hardware on a CRT but I figured this would be a good solution for the hardware that I don't care about so much, anything pre-PlayStation basically. The arcade cores were also very appealing to me.
I regularly switch it between my LCD TV and my CRT but the CRT is where it really shines with the real low input lag, even while using a USB arcade stick.
The interface is quick and it doesn't take long to get into games but I'm not sure the value is there (my setup could have bought me a PS5) compared to just playing emulated games on my PC or via a Pi.
Would be nice to get that CPS3 core soon, want to retire that hardware if possible.

Anonymous Tue Aug 30 10:52:03 2022 No.9219952
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Does that update-all script everyone keeps bringing up actually update all? From what I understand, this thing has pretty poor arcade support unless you include Jotago's cores that include CPS1, CPS2, several Konami, and other cores that for some reason are not part of the standard set of MiSTer cores due to some sort of disagreement or licensing or something?

Is the CAVE arcade core also included in update all?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 30 11:11:54 2022 No.9219964 >>9219952 You clearly don't own a MiSTer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 30 11:13:26 2022 No.9219965 >>9219952 https://github.com/theypsilon/Update_All_MiSTer

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 30 11:20:48 2022 No.9219973 >>9219964 Correct, I do not, that's why I asked >>9219965 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 30 11:34:17 2022 No.9219986 >>9219973 Update_all is all you need.

Anonymous Tue Aug 30 14:36:35 2022 No.9220235

>>9219946
I think of it the opposite way, my setup also could have bought me a ps5, but I pay it once then have more retro games than I could play in my life, while a ps5 would have continued draining money through shitty modern games and subscription costs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 30 14:41:55 2022 No.9220242 >>9220235 Well, that is another way of looking at it for sure. I don't own a PS5 currently because there's no reason for me to buy one over my PS4 Pro currently and the MiSTer can play PS1 games better to boot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 30 16:15:34 2022 No.9220415 >>9219946 a crt saves you about a quarter of a frame of latency over most lcds. in other words, zero difference in latency. there's equal or more difference in latency between what controller you use than the display

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 30 16:21:36 2022 No.9220432 >>9220415 crts are still shit at fast motion

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 30 16:23:22 2022 No.9220437 >>9220415 its far more than 1/4 of a frame, lcd's are also absolute shit at high motion games because the pixels simply can't change fast enough, this is really where crts shine

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 30 16:29:36 2022 No.9220459 >>9220415 In my case my TV has around 40 ms of latency at 1080p, possibly more at 720p. Not an issue with my PC monitor but my LCD TV is pretty laggy. CRT and MiSTer feels near indistinguishable from a CPS2 board and my supergun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 30 19:34:22 2022 No.9220860 >>9219952 had do make the new script work/re image mister when they changed over everything and the old script broke pretty nice it downloads all the mame/cps roms annoying that using cifs for cd/neogeo games breaks mame/cps though

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 30 21:06:45 2022 No.9221020 >>9216746 So don't buy a DE-10 and enjoy all the free support from the community. It's as simple as that, you fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 30 21:08:08 2022 No.9221030 >>9217831 Oh yea. Point me to the Bootsy Twitch channel. Oh he doesn't have one? He doesn't make content anymore. Ohhh... I guess he quit. Unlike somebody else.

Anonymous Tue Aug 30 22:21:38 2022 No.9221204

Seriously anyone who balks at the $200 for a de10 can just fuck off, you are not welcome in the Mister community because you'd be one of those entitled assholes who just complains and never contributes anything, let alone throw a few bucks on patreon for the heavy lifters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 30 22:39:25 2022 No.9221235 >>9221030 >Unlike somebody else Yeah, he's still trying to not embarrass himself playing videogames. Well, wish him luck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 31 00:52:53 2022 No.9221549 >>9220415 Bullshit it's at least 2-3 frames.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 31 01:31:19 2022 No.9221642 >>9221549 only if youre doing something retarded like sending an interlaced signal or running a non native refrsh raye

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 31 01:32:26 2022 No.9221645 >>9221642 *non native refresh rate

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 31 01:43:48 2022 No.9221669 >>9221642 No that is not correct.

Anonymous Wed Aug 31 01:56:41 2022 No.9221696

>>9218740
Not very if the emulation setup is poorly configured. Most normies just fire up their raspberries with default settings which have like 4 or 5 frames of lag and that's very noticeable. Good Retroarch settings on a powerful PC get very close to a MiSTer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 31 02:07:18 2022 No.9221716 >>9216746 why does it matter so much to you get a hobby dude

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 31 02:10:25 2022 No.9221725 >>9214873 probably because you're a retard with no imagination

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