SHE'S ALWAYS WATCHING

[Anonymous No.9174727]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>9168034

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more):
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives:
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series:
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
Doom 3 Resurrection of Evil:
https://mega.nz/file/BzxyGBBZ#cHtxsid-0wpeFltrPAYCStiwYCXshndXUCfOEXSP7gs
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://rentry.org/8ca3061522e0

[Anonymous No.9174730]

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
94 PROTONS OF /vr/
Deadline extended, see picture
https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
512 LINEDEFS OF /vr/
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/512linesvr

=== NEWS ===
[8-12] The guidelines for the Quake 2 25th anniversary collaborative UNIT is here!
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1558056148795887618

[8-12] Quakespasm-Spiked has been updated
https://fte.triptohell.info/moodles/qss/

[8-11] Circadian Offset released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/circadian-offset-full-release/news/circadian-offset-full-release

[8-10] Various id games and their expansions are being merged into one install package on Steam
https://steamcommunity.com/games/2280/announcements/detail/3370400926531461244

[8-8]Coppertone Summer Jam 2 for Quake released(Copper for Quake required)
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/coppertone-summer-jam-2.103/

[8-8]The Quake 2 25th anniversary collaborative UNIT is here and open for submissions!
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1556598386110906369

[8-6]Nostalgia a 32 map megawad was released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130681

[8-4]Giftmarcher releases a surprise Quake 2 map: The Drilling Station 161
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/4171

[8-4]Lex Fridman interviews John Carmack for 5 hours
https://youtu.be/I845O57ZSy4

[8-4] Doom Wad Archive is shutting down :(
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130650
https://archive.org/details/wadarchive Archive Backup

[8-3]2 new tools released for BUILD game Legend of the Seven Paladins
https://gitlab.com/build-engine/lotspe The Extracter
https://gitlab.com/build-engine/lotspp The Packer

[8-1] DoomerBoards released Emerald City, a 15 map episode
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2929

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

[Anonymous No.9174738]

hi

[Anonymous No.9174739]

Finally, a good fucking OP

[Anonymous No.9174741]

[Anonymous No.9174746]

>>9174741
>maybe

[Anonymous No.9174748]

>>9174739
weeb pedophile pseudo homosexual identified

[Anonymous No.9174749]

>>9174746

[Anonymous No.9174750]

>>9174749

[Anonymous No.9174753]

>>9174741
>classic girl mostly big sprites

[Anonymous No.9174757]

>>9174750
3DO Doom was supposed to feature FMV's
my morbid curiosity kinda wish we had that kek

[Anonymous No.9174758]

>>9174748
Are you okay?

[Anonymous No.9174759]

>>9174758
yes, but you're attracted to children and you read manga so i'm gonna go out on a limb and say you aren't

[Anonymous No.9174761]

>>9174730
can we get a /vr/ map for Q2 Unit project?
i would love to see alkaline or /violent rumble/ assets into it

[Anonymous No.9174764]

Hideous Destructor fucking rules

[Anonymous No.9174773]

>>9174741
>when you realize you live in the bad end timeline

[Anonymous No.9174780]

>>9174727
I just finished playing an hour of Blood 2. No doubt the first one is a better game, but I still just love the vibe of this one. The modern, slightly cyberpunk setting and overall chunkiness reminds me of Deus Ex, and I like the idea of the cult from the original surviving into modern times with good publicity. There's also a vein of humor running through the whole thing, almost a Postal 2 vibe at times. By most people's standards, it's not a good game, but I genuinely enjoy it a lot.

[Anonymous No.9174797]

guys, i need your help. i am trying to find a man, a truly based man, but i have little to go on. i went on a boyscout camping trip around 2002-2003, it was either in NJ or PA, and some dude set up a bunch of computers with DOOM 2 multiplayer hooked up via LAN in a nearby gazebo (i guess running off a generator). it was one of my best memories. it was a jamboree or something because there were like a dozen troops there, mine was 62. any chance one of you guys was there or know who this guy was?

[Anonymous No.9174807]

>>9174797
Weirdly enough, this sounds exactly like a guy named Jeffrey Dodson. We called him "Romie" for some reason. Guy died of some rare and aggressive bile duct cancer in 2015 or so.

[Anonymous No.9174815]

>>9174741
>needs faggots
Hey, where's the nigger spam?

[Anonymous No.9174820]

>>9174807
shit, can you tell me more? do you know for a fact he went to boyscout outings? ive been trying to figure out what this was about for years. i need to pay this guy tribute somehow. he put in all this work just to let some scouts play DOOM 2 in the fucking woods for no pay and i need to know who he was.

[Anonymous No.9174838]

>>9174757
Reminds me this existed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDJ1T794WZc

[Anonymous No.9174846]

>>9174838
Same Energy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7Q0_DgXHG0

[Anonymous No.9174857]

>>9174741
might play lot maps
/vr/ yeah mappers
fun

[Anonymous No.9174862]

>>9174846
Those things look like they're Popstations.

[Anonymous No.9174870]

>>9174780
You nailed why I love Blood 2 so much. It's a game that's just Fucked™ all around, with some of the worst vibes possible.

[Anonymous No.9174885]

>>9174741
>faggot added
>space gay
>steam demon
>post horns

[Anonymous No.9174908]

>>9174838
i'm french and i didn't know it was a thing. voice sounds like the official dubber for Bruce Willis

[Anonymous No.9174909]

Could doomguy survive the eclipse of berserk?

[Anonymous No.9174916]

>>9174909
Barehanded, no, unless he's 'zerking off.

[Anonymous No.9174920]

>>9174909
doomguy doesn't need to survive

[Anonymous No.9174994]

>>9174780
It's a shame that game had to be rushed out the window. The game would've gotten a much fonder reception had it been actually completed.

[Anonymous No.9175002]

(im reposting cause id say this is a good topic to cover and i accidentally posted it in the last thread everyone left)
>>9173946
>even in this age of Fortnite & Minecraft.
actually id say games like minecraft normalizing older graphics as a good aesthetic helps DOOM alot in this case, your average millennial will judge DOOM for being old, but for zoomers, as long as its not retarded to play, they're mostly fine with older games/ styles, the stuff millennials would consider outdated.
this should help alot in attracting new-blood, especially from stuff like nu-DOOM (which has already happened to fairly a large extent)

[Anonymous No.9175010]

>>9174909
Knowing how many slaughtermaps are out there, probably.

[Anonymous No.9175024]

What are some good enemy mods? Especially to go with Halo: Doom Evolved since that mod feels a bit hollow with base enemies

[Anonymous No.9175061]

>>9175024
babel is pretty great.

[Anonymous No.9175134]

>>9174727
Any tips for playing Dark Forces. I had left off after playing 4 levels and have forgotten how to given I am playing original Dos version with keyboard controls.
Is there any source port of it? Does it carries the saves?

[Anonymous No.9175161]

>>9175024
>>9175061
I just tested Babel Monsters with that mod and it's pretty good, but I'd recommend putting the fear slider to about 0.7 since if you don't the level of overkill that even basic weapons inflict can make enemies break too fast.
I kinda went in expecting to not like the Halo thing, but it's not bad, clearly fairly high-effort.

[Anonymous No.9175204]

I'm playing Alfonzone for the first time finally. The music is really good.

[Anonymous No.9175279]

>>9174727
That eye looks cute and funny.

[Anonymous No.9175287]

>>9175279
Bad anon.

[Anonymous No.9175290]

>>9175134
That game was pretty easy when I was a kid. My tip is to jump off high ledges and listen to your screams as you die, that always made me laugh.

[Anonymous No.9175297]

>>9175279
do not lewd the eye

[Anonymous No.9175303]

>>9175279

[Anonymous No.9175314]

>>9175279
haha....:sob:

[Anonymous No.9175316]

>>9175279
It's a nice image but stop with the pedo dogwhistles. Don't bring this shit to a Doom general.

[Anonymous No.9175373]

Does Crispy Doom fix the save file issues with the original Doom/Doom II? And if so, does Chocolate too?

[Anonymous No.9175401]

>>9174749
Someone found out that the company that made the demon suit in these pics still has the costume for rental. https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1550994066862653445?t=FoDp8A72uhx9DNTDKFnV0A&s=19

[Anonymous No.9175418]

>>9175401
Finally we can create the fmvs ourselves.

[Anonymous No.9175435]

>>9175134
>Is there any source port of it?
Yes.
https://theforceengine.github.io/
>>9175401
You could've paid better attention, anon.
>However the suit was made out of foam latex and has completely disintegrated at this point
https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1554598012776751109

[Anonymous No.9175461]

>>9175435
>the suit was made out of foam latex and has completely disintegrated
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.9175463]

>>9174761
>alkaline or /vr/ assets
No. The project clearly states it's supposed to be an id-style Stroggos map pack. It'll be using vanilla Quake 2 + mission pack assets.

[Anonymous No.9175467]

guys, I don't know if I'm going insane but I remember the knights making a very distinctive metallic CLINK CLINK CLINK when you shot at them that I'm not hearing anymore, I tried quakespasm, vkquake and iron wail with the steam's id1 folder
I thought it was some n64 quirk but I emulated the rom with the same results, no metallic clink when shooting them
what the fuck is going on?, should I take my meds?

[Anonymous No.9175468]

I don't know if this an HD bug or a Peppergrinder bug, but lmao.

[Anonymous No.9175472]

>>9175467
No, you are right, that does not sound like how the game should run. Try system restore.

[Anonymous No.9175492]

>>9175468
This happened when I started to charge a shot immediately after raising the gun from a sprint/crouch slide.
Stock HD weapons with remotely similar mechanics/animations (vulc spinning with no ammo, bfg recharging a battery) seem to just disable (visual) vertical bobbing altogether under the same conditions.

[Anonymous No.9175495]

>>9175467
>>9175472
no anon, I want to hear that metallic clink
disregard my post, I suck vore cocks, it's a sound fx from the quake epsilon pack

[Anonymous No.9175521]

>>9174707
All levels are in mega folder anon, have fun testing them

[Anonymous No.9175523]

Any recommendation for melee focused gameplay wads or mods?
Basically along the lines of GMOTA or Demonsteel or that one difficulty mode for Hedon, but I also do not mind if there's something like that for Quake, Duke 3d or Shadow Warrior(can't really see it working for Blood).

[Anonymous No.9175543]

>>9175523
That's pretty much your lot. You could also do a melee focused build with the Fighter or Ranger in Wrath of Kronos.
Really though that melee only mode in Hedon doesn't look too good, though I'm not fond with how combat is handled in the mod version, so my opinion is biased.

[Anonymous No.9175560]

>>9175543
I enjoyed it but near the end it gets a bit slow. I'm also not a big fan of how the big fuck off 2h axe involves lots of camera movement because it would be incredibly satisfying otherwise.

[Anonymous No.9175564]

>>9175560
My melee combat autism flares up severely to Rectal Ragnarok levels whenever I see ANY first person game or mod use camera motions for melee attacks. I hate that shit. There's better ways to show the power and weight of a melee attack without needing to do something as dumb as that.

[Anonymous No.9175567]

>>9175564
To be fair that's an issue I have with Hedon for more than just the melee. One of the biggest gripes I have with that game is that it has a mostly satisfying shotgun to use but everything about it jerks the camera like someone's trying to snap your neck. It's also a big reason I'm not a big fan of Brutal Doom or any wad that constantly jerks the camera around like that.

[Anonymous No.9175570]

>>9175567
Yeah, come of think of it I see a lot of shitty mods do that too.
The worse offenders I see of that is when your vision zooms in and out while you fire weapons, like what the fuck is that even doing to the character as you fire? Are their eyes bulging in and out of their fucking sockets? On top of this the weapon animations are usually blurred to shit so you can tell what the fuck is going on.
At this point now I'm just bitching about the new dumb punks in the mod scene bringing 3D animation practices into 2D first person games.

I need to chill out.

[Anonymous No.9175573]

The more I play Doom II the more I like most of the maps. Downtown and The Chasm are the only really bad ones, and I also don't like The Pit or Bloodfalls. The rest? Range from excellent to good.

[Anonymous No.9175575]

>>9175564
Funny enough, the inverse (making the attack do more damage based on your own deliberate camera movement) is satisfying as fuck.
I literally punch across my desk with my mouse in Hideous Destructor.

[Anonymous No.9175576]

>>9175567
>jerks the camera like someone's trying to snap your neck.
Does turning this down help your problem?

[Anonymous No.9175578]

>>9175024
Why would you play a halo mod when you could play Project MSX?

[Anonymous No.9175583]

>>9175575
Alright you're right there. I enjoy swinging the camera around myself to land better punches.
Never really thought about that, honestly. It just feels natural there.

[Anonymous No.9175589]

>>9175523
Play JPCPguy in Final Doomer.

[Anonymous No.9175597]

>>9175573
Nooooo you are supposed to hate Doom 2 if you're based, you can't just go against the sheep mentality like that!!

[Anonymous No.9175602]

>>9175564
>Schism's Quietus intensifies

[Anonymous No.9175603]

>>9175597
Doom 2 is not bad. It's just the city maps that kinda suck a bit.
And Nirvana, maybe. Barrels is kinda questionable, but still kinda fun.

[Anonymous No.9175605]

>>9175602
Is that the one where the player's head rears back as the weapon is raised and then dips down far as it's swung? Because that's the one that specifically pops into my mind when I bitch about this kinda stuff.

[Anonymous No.9175606]

>>9175603
Barrels in HDest are something else.
Every single time I just yolo berserk to the exit

[Anonymous No.9175609]

>>9175606
What's the matter, you don't enjoy framerate destroying explosions and fire effects while frag fills the air to the point where you can constantly see it flicker and nothing ever stays dead?
You don't enjoy dealing with probably like 20+ barrel mimics?

[Anonymous No.9175610]

>>9175609
I, in fact, do not. It was co-op every time as well, so it was a nice showcase that sequence is extremely optional in HDest, and how you could leverage that.

[Anonymous No.9175612]

holy based

[Anonymous No.9175614]

>>9174757
this pic you posted is new to me
>doom with cutscenes
we'd almost have our own zelda cdi holy shit

[Anonymous No.9175617]

>>9175612
The trainwreck that has been this jam continues to deliver.

[Anonymous No.9175619]

>>9175603
>It's just the city maps that kinda suck a bit
Factory and Suburbs are good. Downtown sucks. Industrial Zone is kind of cool but also the only map where Doom's autoaiming really breaks and it's frustrating to get chaingunned from miles away and you can't do shit about it without finagling the fucking autoaim to actually hit shit that high up

[Anonymous No.9175621]

>>9175605
Haha yes.

>>9175609
There's this map in EDay with an absolute shit ton of barrels in one section of the map. If they blow up, enemies will respawn endlessly on the level like Nightmare on steroids. I blew them up. Not doing that shit again.

[Anonymous No.9175623]

>>9175609
I wish I had a computer strong enough to even attempt to load the map with HD.
Last time I tried, it straight hung up into a BSOD

[Anonymous No.9175625]

>>9175623
Wow and I thought I was using withered hardware. What the fuck are you using, Anon?

[Anonymous No.9175628]

i don't wanna hear it about barrels, man

[Anonymous No.9175635]

>>9175621
I find a good way to deal with frag accumulation is to just carry a chainsaw and wreck corpses that drops ammo in some secluded room. Even better if its an arach as you can get a lot of powercells out of just one of those.

It may be time consuming, but safety's always best.

[Anonymous No.9175637]

>>9175628
Looks like you're in the barrel today.

[Anonymous No.9175639]

>>9175625
I probably shouldn't have said anything. Kinda embarrasingly old. It's a miracle it can even run GZD at all.

[Anonymous No.9175640]

>>9175628
>a map with more than 200 monsters
>with HD

NOPE. No thank you. No sir, I don't like it.

[Anonymous No.9175642]

>>9175640
It's probable that's just a respawn counter at this point. Barrels doesn't normally have the population of a small-scale slaughterwad.

[Anonymous No.9175643]

>>9175642
Well, it also isn't usually MAP08.

[Anonymous No.9175645]

>>9175639
Come on it can't be that bad. I'm curious now.

[Anonymous No.9175654]

>>9175635
I do carry a chainsaw in my backpack in every loadout now. Near the end of that run of that wad I was gibbing every corpse after I looted them.

[Anonymous No.9175656]

>>9175645
I won't say much but
1.7GHz 2core cpu
4gb RAM
Graphics card struggles to render half life 2 and derivative sourcemods. As in, I'm lucky to be above 25 FPS.

[Anonymous No.9175658]

>>9175656
Wow dude, holy shit.
Living the true /vr/ life with a proper shitty machine, that's admirable in its own way.

[Anonymous No.9175663]

>>9175656
May I ask why? Sure we meme about CRT monitors and Windows 98 on /vr/ but secretly all of us have the latest Windows 11 machines, curved monitors and RGB lighting

[Anonymous No.9175664]

>>9175663
I don't. I'm using a withered old Windows 7 machine still, I'm the one who posted a screenshot of mediocre specs.
I do use two monitors though. I prop all this shit up on one of those big white folding tables, serves me well as a computer desk. Runs mostly everything I care about fine, though it chokes a little in Golden Souls 3.

[Anonymous No.9175671]

>>9175658
>living the true life
nah.
Life is just shit and I'm spitefully staying afloat on a shoestring connection that has wiring older than half the board's population and an ancient museum piece of equipment barely held together by duck tape.
>>9175663
It used to be an XP machine until I was forced to update it a few years ago. Sadly, it's the best I have access to at the moment, due to life circumstances. I'm not here to say shit about my terribleness anyway why do you people even ask this shit.

[Anonymous No.9175679]

>>9175671
> why do you people even ask this shit.
Morbid curiosity. Which is perfectly satisfied now, so I'm willing to move on.
You boys play any good WADs? I've been playing Overboard on and off the past week or so when I'm not so busy. Cryiak has a weird sense of humor and he seems to really enjoy putting pressure on the player.

[Anonymous No.9175680]

>>9175643
It'll be Long Trek Back Home, that's got Barrels as Map08. The monster count has tripled form respawns though, it's usually 271 on UV.

[Anonymous No.9175681]

>>9175680
>Long Trek Back Home
Ah, I should've guessed

[Anonymous No.9175689]

>>9174727
>>9174730
94 Protons Of /vr/
For those interested, go for broke! From August 11th to September 12th

MegaUpload: https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA
>Proton Pack 1.9.6 (now works in Woof)
>PROTDECO16 (patch for testing your levels in GzDoom)
>94SplatDefault, 94SplatNC-HUD
>A collection of MIDIs for mappers to use.
Please stake a claim on a MIDI you've settled on so that we don't get doubles, also, you are not restricted to the MIDIs in the folder, feel free to use one you sourced/made yourself.
If the assets update, I'll reply to this post stating so.

Slots:
>E1 Boss Level, x2 Paratamizers as a finale: Claimed (?)
>E2 Boss Level: Discuss
Are you interested in making an E2 boss level, do you have anything special in mind, or would you be ok with a modified Icon Of Sin battle?

>Optional Hunted style map: Unclaimed
We could have up to two of these if there's the interest for it. Feel free to be playful with the concept of an Arch-Vile labyrinth.

>Optional Dead Simple map: Finished
>Large city battle level akin to Odyssey Of Noises: Discuss
One suggestion for a larger city level was that we all take turns designing parts for it. How would we best go about this?

>Secret slaughter map, ala Go 2 It: Discuss
Multiple ideas has been suggested. One cool idea was to use an existing /vr/ map as a base and slaughterifying it, is anyone interested in this, and do they have further suggestions for a suitable candidate? Someone else suggested another approach, mind that we could have two secret slaughter maps if we wanted to.

Current Submissions: 16 Maps!

To Do:
>M_DOOM (something styled after Plutonium in the periodic table)
>ENDOOM
>Interpics (optionally one per episode)
>E2 Boss
>E3 Boss
>Chainsaw
>Fist
>Super Shotgun
>Plasma
>BFG9000
>Possibly rework the Death Exit effects somehow

Reply to this post with submissions or questions.

[Anonymous No.9175694]

>>9175628
Will be waiting to watch your struggle in that map. Kinda constantly baffled how you keep roaming huge open maps like Condo and such after clearing them just to gather supplies, even with the lower enemy count of LTBH.
Nearly 800 enemies killed just under an hour seems brutal though, even with your loadout.

[Anonymous No.9175703]

Wow ANOTHER doom map project. How exciting

[Anonymous No.9175715]

>>9175703
>posting this in the Doom thread
Shitposting aside I really would like to see more Quake projects to follow up on VR.

[Anonymous No.9175723]

>>9175715
I tried to get something going a while ago but most posters itt are just not talented enough to make maps for a fully 3D game

[Anonymous No.9175728]

>>9175723
I was kind of thinking of starting a Half-Life project but I'm not leadership material at all and I have no right asking people to make map when I can't even finish my own

[Anonymous No.9175739]

>>9174741
>>9174815
Was manipulated. Even though all the posts were on topic, the jannies deleted literally everything containing the word. Modern 4chan is no fun allowed zone reddit-lite mode.

[Anonymous No.9175740]

>>9175739
The problem isn't "modern 4chan", it's Doomworld snowflakes who have effectively colonized this thread and their mass reporting.

[Anonymous No.9175741]

>>9175739
Spam posts suck. Word clouds are best when it happens naturally. Any idiot can spam words and affect the cloud, forcing shit like that is fucking gay.

[Anonymous No.9175747]

>>9175740
Never was a user of that site. What kind of people are we talking about here?
>>9175741
It wasn't spam though. The posts were on topic. Take the stick out of your ass.

[Anonymous No.9175751]

>>9175747
There was one that was just nigger like 40 times and then "btw don't crouch in Hexen tee hee"
That post was atrocious, if you defend that you're beyond saving.

[Anonymous No.9175752]

>>9175747
>What kind of people are we talking about here?
Take a wild guess

[Anonymous No.9175756]

>>9175747
>it wasn't spam
own up to your bullshit or don't bother, nigger

[Anonymous No.9175757]

>>9175747
It was on topic only in the technical sense. It was still spam and an attempt at seeding the cloud. Artificial.

[Anonymous No.9175758]

>>9175751
Don't remember it but if the poster was providing a tip and threw in a few nigs then I don't see a problem.
>>9175752
Fucking NOTHING has been spared from this Maoist cultural revolution shit, even Doom jesus

[Anonymous No.9175759]

>>9175747
>it wasn't spam

[Anonymous No.9175760]

>>9175758
You're probably the special boy that posted it then, and you're just acting like a coy little slut to derail the thread with your bullshit.

[Anonymous No.9175762]

>>9175759
That's art

[Anonymous No.9175779]

>>9175747
It was totally spam, forcing the word cloud kills the fun of it.

[Anonymous No.9175790]

>>9174727
I want to give Evil Eye-Chan a kiss.

[Anonymous No.9175792]

>>9175779
Mate, having a big nig for one stupid word cloud is just a few laughs. Lighten up. You mutants suck the life out of everything.

[Anonymous No.9175793]

>>9174908
If you're one of the Frenchies I'm thinking of, are you back from your vacation?

[Anonymous No.9175798]

Return to Castle Wolfenstein worth a go?

I'm trying to find an .apk for an old android source port of it some company made.

[Anonymous No.9175801]

>>9175798
Yes, it's the best Wolfenstein game IMO.

[Anonymous No.9175805]

>>9175798
RTCW is a classic. Very well made game that still holds up today. By the way do any of you niggers know if Enemy Territory is still running in some way? I remember having a blast on that game back in the day.

[Anonymous No.9175812]

>>9175758
Unless you proactively seek out and physically remove leftoids and other useful idiots from your midst they will take over a space, doesn't matter what it is, they will take it over, especially if its enjoy by people they don't like.

[Anonymous No.9175817]

>>9174686
>>9175689
I did not know you added those details, that's pretty cool. Slotin was a wild motherfucker, came into the lab every day wearing cowboy boots. For colormaps, if you provide the ones you want to use in the .wad, sure. I remember the blue flash, so you evidently did.
I'll just include them for when I assemble it into a .wad

[Anonymous No.9175825]

>>9175812
Sadly pic related has been true of the retro fps community for a while now

[Anonymous No.9175830]

>>9175812
Yeah, it sucks because inclusivity is usually a positive thing in general but these people are fucked in the head. They destroy everything they touch from the inside. I just checked out the Doomworld forums and look what I found almost immediately. These people have just appeared from nowhere in the past 10 years and now fucking run almost every space you can think of. Fucking World Economic Forum transhumanist eugenicist cunts. Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you.

[Anonymous No.9175837]

>>9175805
Wolf ET got relaunched on Steam recently, free. They haven't put ET:QW back up though, even though the current QC season is QW-themed.

[Anonymous No.9175839]

>>9175793
If you're thinking of Colonel Parmesan, I'm in close contact with him and there's been no signs of life from him in over a month. If you're thinking of someone else then I suck cocks and you can disregard this post.

[Anonymous No.9175842]

>>9175837
there are quake wars servers right now

[Anonymous No.9175874]

Anyone know any Doom chat rooms (IRC, Matrix, etc.) or forums that haven't been colonized by stooges of the World Economic Forum?

[Anonymous No.9175875]

>>9175842
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about how MS didn't put ET:QW back on the Steam store like they did with Wolf: ET.

[Anonymous No.9175887]

Why are my ON TOPIC posts without ANY discrimination or anything being deleted?

[Anonymous No.9175904]

>>9174909
most of those creatures can die by physical weaponry but if i'm not wrong, it also depends in the state of the user or something that i'm getting wrong
wasn't there a berserk mod too?

[Anonymous No.9175924]

>>9175578
Give me some good map sets for it then

[Anonymous No.9175935]

>>9175924
spoonfeeding.wad is right up your alley.

[Anonymous No.9175989]

So after all these years, what is honestly so bad about Brutal Doom
besides it’s creator and annoying fanbase.

[Anonymous No.9176006]

>>9175989
a bunch of weird glitches and questionable gameplay design/balance decisions that were better explained back in 2018 or so when anons here posted webms, screenshots and explenations over things that most people would overlook

[Anonymous No.9176007]

>what is honestly so bad about Brutal Doom
>besides it’s creator and annoying fanbase.
Besides the bloat that’s it. People are fine to play it though I personally think it’s outdated and controls awkwardly on occasion.

[Anonymous No.9176021]

>>9174885
I want full rotation sprites of Basilissa so bad

[Anonymous No.9176023]

>>9175373
Yes and yes. I think there's a toggle in the compat settings in case you're a purist.

[Anonymous No.9176028]

>>9176006
Damn, I wonder if anybody has a link that that because Id love to see a breakdown.

[Anonymous No.9176030]

I probably know the answer but I have to ask, are any of the Painkiller games after Black worth playing?

[Anonymous No.9176127]

Can't believe logfag is still on it https://youtu.be/ktYAhh73hhI

[Anonymous No.9176128]

>>9176021
Go yell at Term to update HND with them, because he has them. I think. But don't actually do that.

[Anonymous No.9176163]

>watch latest decino video
>that secret exit
lmfao

[Anonymous No.9176175]

>>9175989
Nothing really that makes it better or worse than most of the stuff out there, just the popularity and stuff that came with it.

The lasting effect it had on the community is one of causing a lot of mod developers to become incredibly bitter about it being popular despite what they see as a lack of skill in the developer.

It's kind of sad since it got a lot of people into the community who wouldn't be in it otherwise but that's what it's effect really has been.

[Anonymous No.9176194]

>>9176175
Well it got me into doom mods. I have a big fondness for it.


I dont understand the bitterness or sadness. I will play good shit from trannies and from him, their coping politics can go fuck themselves.

[Anonymous No.9176213]

>>9175875
Well, the Activision Blizzard deal is not finished yet. So you would have to wait for anything like that.

[Anonymous No.9176227]

>>9176194
>I dont understand the bitterness
Jealousy, I've seen day long rants by people like the Stattrack developer on how their mod is much better than BD and deserves more attention.

Meanwhile there are people quietly doing neat stuff like Dakka without ever engaging in that shit.
>or sadness
It just sucks to see the community so fractured and negative about shit when it used to be a lot better than that,

[Anonymous No.9176282]

>minor shit like different sprites on the different side of the window
This really, REALLY triggers my autism.

[Anonymous No.9176287]

>>9176282

[Anonymous No.9176293]

>>9176227
Or just other authors getting really tired of "your mod breaks x in Brutal Doom" reports constantly because Mark decided to flag toilets as monsters or some other stupid bullshit. A lot of times they don't leave it at just a report either, they'll often act like you need to rewrite things to accommodate it, and thats the thing that tends to piss off other authors the most imo.

[Anonymous No.9176304]

>>9176194
>I dont understand the bitterness or sadness
For a while every wad that came out was pestered by ESL kids begging for Brutal Doom support in the comments, that's the reason.

[Anonymous No.9176305]

hffm2 should have a midi version of "it's okay to be gay" song
>>9176127
is that a red recolor of jenny wakeman?

[Anonymous No.9176309]

>>9175463
rogue and xatrix has some unique assets
Strogg palace assets is really damn good as a temple tileset

[Anonymous No.9176324]

>>9175435
>https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1554598012776751109

Ah, disappointing, but not surprising.

[Anonymous No.9176341]

>>9175663
im not on windows 11 (thanks valve), though i do have a softspot for my 144hz monitor, makes DOOM and quake so smooth.

[Anonymous No.9176349]

>>9176293
That's not exactly limited to BD though, I got that shit a lot with some of my maps because I coincidentally used the same sprite name for a custom decoration as some boss from LCA.

It's part of a bigger issue of expectations of shit to keep working forever, regardless of what version engine or mod it's being run it, and that somebody else needs to fix it for them.

[Anonymous No.9176356]

>>9174727
Does it have a waifu version of those evil burning floating triangle things?

[Anonymous No.9176358]

>>9175612
Furfagweather deserves all shitty stuff in life along with the mapping cierclejerk that sucks his axe wound.

A friendly reminder to newfags, this asshole is the sole reason of why Q1 community is shit these days, he even went on to sabotage map ratings to put his as the best ones, he even tried to nuke quaddicted out of spite using one of his buddies to use political baits and even sabotaged ter shibboleth's rating because ter shib was better than the shitty map he did with vanilla assets since is the only shit he uses against the gimmics and variety tershib had, that also includes nyarlathotep and altar of storms.

Spirit is the only sane man of now at quake 1 community, dumptruck_ds gave ears and voice to fairweather's gang and he was ousted from Quake mapping discord mod and ownership.


>>9176213
give it til december, there are some silent massive layoffs happening atm there.

>>9175628
Dafuq is this? Barrels on crack part 2?

[Anonymous No.9176372]

Thoughts about Mancubus?

[Anonymous No.9176374]

>>9176372
They're one of my favorite monsters.

[Anonymous No.9176381]

>>9176372
interesting enemy, with a role that if often overlooked
i do like how modern doom gave him a flamethrower attack and the cybermanc
both the cybermanc and carcass look like they offer unique enough abilities that could suit doom or something

[Anonymous No.9176386]

>>9176372
They're great. The only thing I dislike is the "caution" lines on the 64 mancubus.
I didn't realize the original had stripes, I thought they were just fat folds.

[Anonymous No.9176393]

>>9176372
fat fuck

[Anonymous No.9176408]

>>9176381
The Carcass fills a similar role to the Pain Elemental. It's an enemy that makes you think twice about shooting rockets.

[Anonymous No.9176414]

>>9176372
underrated enemy

[Anonymous No.9176419]

>>9176372
I replayed Valiant last week and having to gib a half dozen of these lardasses in every other fight burned me out on manc heavy maps for a while. They're annoying ammo sinks and too tempting to use as path blocking obstacles. They can also really screw with rocket ammo economy when the RNG isn't on your side. But they're good when used in moderation, Castle Siege from Alien Vendetta comes to mind for that.

[Anonymous No.9176434]

>>9175614
sad.
>>9175401
never saw this pic of it. saved
>>9175435
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.9176437]

>>9175583
gayest fist animation ever
fist deep in the dead

[Anonymous No.9176446]

>>9175723
>but most posters itt are just not talented enough to make maps for a fully 3D game
Hard disagree here. Making 3D levels does not take more talent than making 2D levels, just another set of skills. And there was at least one anon who consciously chose to make maps for Doom because he wanted no room-over-room.
I personally have contributed to both 2D and 3D projects and I find making levels in 3D vastly easier than making levels in 2D.
And everyone and their grandma knows how to operate UDB whereas having to learn a new mapping tool for a new project already takes time and then you won't be as proficient as you are with your 2D tool you already know inside out.
And if it weren't for Trenchbroom, I would have never touched any 3D mapping in the first place because fuck Gtk Radiant, I could never get into it.

However, a problem I do indeed see already within Doom mappeing here is that lots of people don't seem to like getting out of their Boom comfort zone.

[Anonymous No.9176458]

>>9176305
might as well be. Think it's Spinel from Steven Universe though.

[Anonymous No.9176461]

>>9176372
i like the sound they make when they die

[Anonymous No.9176468]

>>9175798
http://www.beloko.com/?page=game_rtcw
Beloko version? It used to be free (I didn't really check the site). I'm sure if you search beloko rtcw or whatever you'll get it.

[Anonymous No.9176475]

>>9176461
HUMP YO MOM

[Anonymous No.9176487]

>>9176475
kek i expect no less from demonic grunts

[Anonymous No.9176495]

>>9175723
I want to try hosting a /vr/ classic serious sam mapping project sometime.
But that requires others learning SED which has very unique engine quirks and not many good tutorials at the moment.

[Anonymous No.9176505]

>>9176487
I wouldn't want to see the thing that gave birth to a Mancubus.

It'd probably be a Momcubus with a huge gaping vagina the size of a hallway.

[Anonymous No.9176509]

>>9176475
Diabolical taste, based fatso

[Anonymous No.9176510]

>>9176505
Not born. SHIT into existence.

[Anonymous No.9176517]

>>9176509
i know which thread it comes from. very nice panties...

[Anonymous No.9176525]

>>9176517
I don't. Care to help a brother out?

[Anonymous No.9176527]

>>9176525
this is a blue board SIR

[Anonymous No.9176529]

>>9176510
Dogma Doom mod when?

[Anonymous No.9176532]

>>9176505
CLOACA INFERNIS

[Anonymous No.9176539]

>>9176517
>t.mancubus

[Anonymous No.9176541]

what happened to dredd doom anon?

[Anonymous No.9176542]

I want a Cyber-Mancubus for Christmas
Only a Cyber-Mancubus will do
Don’t want an Imp, no dinky Pinky boys
I want a Cyber Mancubus to play with and enjoy

I want a Cyber Mancubus for Christmas
Don’t think the UAC will mind, do you?
Won’t have go to Hell
Or kill their personnel
Just drop him at the front door and leave him where he fell

I can see me on a Martian morning
Creeping down the stairs
Oh what fear and what horror
When I turn round the corner
And find a big fat demon standing there

I want a Cyber Mancubus for Christmas
Only a Cyber Mancubus will do
No Arch-viles
Or plain old Mancubuseses
I only like
Cyber-Mancubuseses
And Cyber-Mancubuses like me too!

Dad says that I
Will be kill by demons
But teacher says that Hell is but a mere superstition

There’s lots of room for him on the surface of Mars
He’ll play with me, and stay with me, and help me find key cards

I can see me on a Martian morning
Creeping down the stairs
Oh what fear and what horror
When I turn round the corner
And find a big fat demon standing there

I want a Cyber Mancubus for Christmas
Only a Cyber Mancubus will do
No Arch-viles
Or plain old Mancubuseses
I only like
Cyber-Mancubuseses
And Cyber-Mancubuses like me too!

[Anonymous No.9176546]

>>9176539
why yes i have majestic mantitties
>>9176542
he cute but cyber mancubus is not retro anon

[Anonymous No.9176564]

>>9176541
He made maps for both 512 linedefs and 400 minutes, still around

[Anonymous No.9176589]

>>9176372
good monster and in large spaces can be alot more interesting than barons or hell-knights.

[Anonymous No.9176597]

>>9175467
having the same issue with the axe on vkquake. maybe my bootleg pak files are the culprit, but my axe doesnt make any fucking noise!!

[Anonymous No.9176628]

>>9175467
>>9176597
interesting

[Anonymous No.9176634]

https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=532669

well here's a small lead on the retro explosions, unfortunately some have been ruined with watermarks, I have searched literally everywhere but cannot find these CDs

[Anonymous No.9176642]

>>9176282
>>9176287
Yeah part 1 is a lot less polished than part 2
I think they'll go back and polish it up, they released the sterile maps for part 2 but not part 1 yet

[Anonymous No.9176683]

>>9176358
It's unfortunate that he's decided to take this path of vengeance and actively seeks to segregate the communities. It only damages the game and it's longevity. By brewing these feelings of bitterness and hostility it also strips possible new and interesting mapper collaborations from seeing the light of day by pitting people against each other. I don't know why he chooses to do this, but if anything can be for certain: it hurts.

[Anonymous No.9176686]

I’ve played most of the official wads and am thinking of playing of No end in sight but I’m tired of hard wads, is it a hard one? To illustrate, Syringe and Doom Zero were hard but playable for me so I’m hoping No end is not that intense

[Anonymous No.9176694]

>>9176358
>>9176683
>vomits
shame

[Anonymous No.9176701]

>>9176541
Still here, fucked around a bit with HD mods to prepare for continuing on Judge Doom.
Next up is probably a bit under-the-hood stuff like rework of enemy behavior and optimizations to how the judge shout works.

[Anonymous No.9176710]

>>9176686
It's hardest Doom wad that has been made. Especially the fourth episode. But it's still very good. Fun and addicting. You will want to continue punishing yourself till you beat the all maps.

[Anonymous No.9176712]

Is there some mod that replaces Korax from Heretic with George Floyd

[Anonymous No.9176731]

I'm tired of pretending Annihilation wasn't a good Doom movie.

[Anonymous No.9176730]

>>9176683
this sucks because the appeal of older fps might as well be how they almost felt public domain to most fans
like carmack gave the "car keys" and people could do anything with the games
same reason why i think there could be other award cerimonies for mods than the cacowards, to make the "community" feel less closed
>>9175989
>>9176006
>>9176175
the thing with brutal doom is that its popularity lead to people making shit up, so romero even had to correct someone over a statement he said about the mod
but for all the kotaku writers and younger fans hyping it up, its detractors never really did a good job explaining the mod's real problems
brutal doom is like if yandere sim never had a "lolcow status" because it'd be as if the people shitting on it did a terrible job, most people would assume the subject in question isn't that bad

[Anonymous No.9176741]

>>9176710
Yiked. Not sure if you’re joking but if it’s true, not gonna play it. I hate leaving stuff unfinished so thanks for the info

[Anonymous No.9176757]

>>9176730
I've seen plenty of good arguments for why people legitimately have issues with BD as a mod itself, especially when discussing the absurd amount of bloat. Even the campaign was less bloated and more like actual Doom back when it was HoESP than that absolute mess EDay became. There's also other issues like coding practices and other under the hood nightmares that only modders can really appreciate how backwards they are, but concepts like bloat and overall direction are pretty surface level stuff to understand.

[Anonymous No.9176771]

>>9176731
kek

[Anonymous No.9176773]

>>9176741
*yikes

[Anonymous No.9176775]

>>9176731
It was wholly unremarkable. Not even "so bad it's good"

[Anonymous No.9176784]

>>9176730
>its popularity lead to people making shit up, so romero even had to correct someone over a statement he said about the mod
It persistently still comes up on a bunch of modding servers that the BD dev is somehow at fault for the original sprites infamously based on real corpses.

Shit was a badly informed tumblr post like six or seven years ago that made those claims and it'll never die.

[Anonymous No.9176813]

>>9176730
>same reason why i think there could be other award cerimonies for mods than the cacowards, to make the "community" feel less closed
They tried to do the ZDoom awards because of Graf throwing a shitfit about Lilith.pk3 getting a Cacoward, so whatever tosse him and his clique off could get an award.

Everybody just took the piss out of them instead of taking them seriously.

[Anonymous No.9176821]

>>9175609
I play with frag turned off because any dead hitscanner or dead marine prop in the entire level being able to stand right back up and land a perfect headshot squarely in my helmet visor within the span of half a second is not piss that I want in my cup of tea
and yes, I have seen MORE than enough fully gibbed corpses come to life and be instantly ready for action

[Anonymous No.9176872]

>>9176821
Wait, you can turn that shit off? How?

[ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs No.9176873]

QUAKE MAPPERS INTERESTED IN A PROJECT PLEASE SUBMIT FOR POLLING: https://strawpoll.com/polls/40Zmdvbzoga

The MALICE project would likely have similar modifiers to Violent Rumble and potentially some optional CSQC (magazine ammo count, a couple HUD variants, etc.). A new start map would be required, and some gameplay additions could be made from the decompiled progs (i.e. skill 3 being actual Nightmare and not some weird insta-kill mode). I'd personally like to do a small episode of continuous maps for this one, but I'm not sure how doable that is in 3 months, and I'd leave that up to you guys anyway. No room for an extended deadline... would kinda miss the point.

Violent Rumble 2 would be... whatever you want to make of it, really. I've been painfully slowly working on progs stuff and expanding the secret level. If you made a map for the first release with a rune, you can surrender it to another mapper or transfer it to a new map of your own if you wish. I've got some ideas for new powerups and modifiers that might be fun.
Also, I've had the idea of using the bedroom in the secret level as a hub for some thematic mini-maps accessible via some of the posters on the wall - either existing ones or whatever is requested. These maps would allow the player unlock the DOE runes or other bonuses for the final fight, which will be harder otherwise. The Rekkr poster is already reserved.

For whichever is picked I'll run a survey on what direction you guys want to take things.
And sorry about just kinda fucking off a few months ago when I said I would announce something soon. Real life has been real gay.

[Anonymous No.9176882]

>playing shadow warrior
>gib a female ninja
>OH, YOU LITTLE TINY DICK
what did lo wang mean by this?

[Anonymous No.9176897]

>>9176771
>>9176775
The action was good, the story based on a demon slaying game was pretty decent and the references and demon designs were amazing.

[Anonymous No.9176916]

>>9176634
What were the names of the CDs? I'll help look.

[Anonymous No.9176951]

>>9176007
7 rockets...

[Anonymous No.9176958]

>>9176007
its a fine mod, but there are better ones nowadays.
though i play mostly BOOM in DSDA anyways.

[Anonymous No.9176971]

It's time to conclude second episode and for this I'm going to try something different, open and labyrintine, sort of.

[Anonymous No.9176979]

>>9174780
this guy is fixing up the whole game, kind of impressive what hes shown so far

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFJ7iANkMes

[Anonymous No.9176983]

>>9176821
It's not bad when its a marine or chaingunguy, you at least can get into cover and save yourself if they shoot at you immediatly with 4.26.
The problem comes when its a marine rockettango or ZMGL marine rezzing behind you from outside hearing range and gibbing you instantly.

[Anonymous No.9176987]

>>9176372
Every time his projectiles fails to collide properly with a wall and then passes through to hit me in the face I fucking mald.

[Anonymous No.9176989]

>>9176916
at first I thought they were called "Visual Effects Headquarters" but seem to be often called "Visual Concept Entertainment" and the "Pyromania!" CDs are in the following image taken from their old site in the wayback machine, check the previous thread for more context

[Anonymous No.9176994]

>>9176872
Ugly as Sin has a Frag slider.

[ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs No.9177002]

>>9176873
>poll is giving a server error
errr... I guess just reply with whether you'd prefer to do a MALICE 25th anniversary project or Violent Rumble 2.

[Anonymous No.9177015]

I need more Shelly from Ion Fury in my life. Thankfully apparently soonish there'll be more info on Aftershock (at Gamescom?)

Also, is there any way to make Soldier of Fortune 2 more alt+tab friendly? Apparently it's just one of those games that doesn't work well with alt tabbing.

[Anonymous No.9177016]

>>9176994
There's a frag slider option in stock HD as well.

[Anonymous No.9177026]

>>9177016
I don't think that one disables existing frag spawns, it's just for adding extra sparks.

[Anonymous No.9177053]

>>9177015
>Also, is there any way to make Soldier of Fortune 2 more alt+tab friendly? Apparently it's just one of those games that doesn't work well with alt tabbing.
Probably using something like dxwnd or whatever it's called to force it into a window.

[Anonymous No.9177059]

CUNT!

[Anonymous No.9177068]

>>9177059
context?

[Anonymous No.9177071]

>>9177053
Wow, actual helpful reply. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.9177072]

>>9177015
I wish they tried a 3d game with the franchise, like they showcased and redesign her completely and throw that fucking useless villain into the trash and get something better.

[Anonymous No.9177078]

>>9177059
Are you ever going to release this mod? You've been cockteasing it for like 4 years. Did I miss a link or something?

[Anonymous No.9177079]

>>9174727
> proton project
Um what's up with texture being invisible or chess boardy?

[Anonymous No.9177091]

>>9177079
Use Plutonia as your IWAD and load the assets (PROTONPACK) before the maps, it's not compiled yet.

[Anonymous No.9177115]

>>9177068
>level starves you for health and ammo
>spot a secret path down in a pit
>go down it
>one (1) lone Health Bonus
>take it, because every scrap helps
>turn around
>there's now a Revenant behind you (silent teleport)

Devilish and hilarious.

>>9177078
You mean Immoral Conduct? That's not what's on screen there. That project has seen somewhat limited development since 2048 Units Of /vr/. I do intend on finishing it, but I have some obligations to take care of first.
Once I'm done with 94 Protons, as well as my obligations to Ad Mortem and Temporal Tantrum, I'll probably put mapping on the backburner for a while to get back to that.

[Anonymous No.9177117]

>>9176372
more like manhugebutt

[Babel Guy !OWvSkSdXw6 No.9177127]

Just a heads-up, I found out right now that Babel doesn't work with doom_complete.pk3 from wadsmoosh on newer versions of GZDoom (4.7+ at the very least). It's because the IWAD filter doesn't engage properly, so I'm trying to figure out if I can remedy it. In the meantime, if you really want to use it with doom_complete.pk3, try using an older version of GZDoom (4.4 seems to work fine). It will, however, allow you to use the SSG in Doom 1 levels, no way around that yet.

[Anonymous No.9177132]

Putting "box" in "skybox"

[Anonymous No.9177163]

>>9175573
I have always liked doom 2 and was suprised 15 years ago when i first hear that everyone hates it.

Even so Sandy still makes some questionable design choices in doom 2 and there is a giant arrow pointing at what im talking about.

[Anonymous No.9177178]

>>9176358
>give it til december, there are some silent massive layoffs happening atm there.
Oh yeah, it will go faster than expected. For sure. But who knows how long it would take to get more older games on Steam & Game Pass.
>dumptruck_ds
He actually threw in a few messages as people in Quake's Mapping Discord server were speaking out about Spirit's "toxic" behavior for something along those lines.
>A friendly reminder to newfags
Yikes. If I get myself or my friends to mod Quake or DOOM (any older game, for that matter), I would just point towards Itch and/or share the shit here.
>>9176434
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
It's always the best of us.
>>9176683
>pic
This and not allowing stuff from other Quake games is just pure cringe.
>>9177002
>>9176873
I would suggest going for MALICE first. It's unlikely that anyone else would do anything besides a single map for it, so anons should take matter into their own hands.
>>9177015
>Thankfully apparently soonish there'll be more info on Aftershock
We'll get some gameplay, at the very least. By the way.Tempest Rising (their new C&C-esque RTS) is in the same universe and takes place over 100 years before Ion Fury.
>>9177072
>I wish they tried a 3d game with the franchise
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see an FPS inspired by Renegate. Even though their new FPS should be inspired by some 2001 stuff.

[Anonymous No.9177206]

>a bootleg C&C game

Wtf is wrong is 3d realms?

[Anonymous No.9177217]

>>9176873
Zerstorer is also turning 25, you know.
anyway, voted VR2, but I suggest just doing a separate release, i.e. all-new maps without overlapping with VR1. but carrying over the progs obviously.
Malice is fine too though, especially if we're changing the progs (specifically the 5x health disparity between skill 0 and 2).

[Babel Guy !OWvSkSdXw6 No.9177243]

>>9177127
Okay actually this was pretty simple. I'll be updating the link I posted a few threads ago with a fix for it. Still get the SSG in doom 1 in doom_complete if you idfa, but there's no simple way to fix that without potentially breaking compat for custom maps with their own EXMX names that want the SSG. I'm also working on a few touchups to things I noticed, and maybe one or two balance changes (such as making it so that if you shoot a demon when it's mid-bite you can always stun it). We'll see.
God help me I might finally make the archvile's code less horrible

[Anonymous No.9177252]

>>9176882
You don't have to have a dick to be a dick.

[Anonymous No.9177280]

Man thanks to whoever recommended me ad mortem. Only beat 7 levels but fuck, seventh just took me right under an hour.

[Anonymous No.9177293]

I think people should stop using pain elementals
ever

[Anonymous No.9177297]

>>9177280
Enjoy, we're making more levels for it for Halloween.

[Anonymous No.9177296]

>>9177293
Gotcha. *manually places 200 lost souls in a teleport closet*

[Anonymous No.9177304]

>>9177296
You think I didn't immediately turn on the Lost Soul limit when I learned it was a thing?

[Anonymous No.9177305]

>>9177293
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.9177306]

>>9177297
Yep

[Anonymous No.9177314]

>>9177304
I think you're a bitch.

[Anonymous No.9177330]

>>9176372
Pain sound is Elmer Fudd saying "Quiet" slowed down

[ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs No.9177341]

>>9177178
>I would suggest going for MALICE first. It's unlikely that anyone else would do anything besides a single map for it, so anons should take matter into their own hands.
Yeah, I figured between the original developers moving onto weird gimmick and mobile games and the disinterest in anything not largely vanilla from the Quake mapping 'community' that not much would happen for its 25th anniversary. Even if VR2 wins I'll probably still make a MALICE map of my own.

>>9177217
>Zerstorer is also turning 25, you know.
I actually had no idea. I'm not sure there would be a huge interest in a Zerstorer project (anyone can reply and correct me on that) but I'd certainly be willing to port elements of Zerstorer to VR2.
>VR2, but I suggest just doing a separate release, i.e. all-new maps without overlapping with VR1
I personally don't care either either way, but I'll put it on the survey if VR2 wins. I guess that would give me a good excuse to make a new start map that doesn't take a million years to compile...
>Malice is fine too though, especially if we're changing the progs (specifically the 5x health disparity between skill 0 and 2).
I haven't looked *too* deep into MALICE's progs (in part because the decompiled QC files are a bit of a mess) but it will probably be easy enough to make a modifier that replaces the harsh health ramp up with something else. I could also just implement skill 3 and spread the health disparity across to it.

[Anonymous No.9177352]

>>9177293
t. seething cacodemon

[Anonymous No.9177354]

>>9177352
Oh, it's on now, bitch!

[Anonymous No.9177359]

>>9176372
Super based.

[Anonymous No.9177363]

>>9176979
This reminds me a lot of a mod project of turning Postal 3 into a proper Postal game. I wonder if new areas would be added in the mod to make the game flow overall better.

[Anonymous No.9177367]

>>9176372
literally me

[Anonymous No.9177368]

Is there RTCW files in the vr megas? I cant find it

[Anonymous No.9177374]

>>9177341
the "reconstructed" sources, right? it lives in skills.qc

[Anonymous No.9177385]

>>9177354
>tiny girl arms
>swole
lmao fat red retard

[Anonymous No.9177386]

>>9176127

[Anonymous No.9177389]

>>9177304
That limit doesn't reduce the amount of manually placed down Lost Souls. It only prevents Pain Elementals from creating more.

[Anonymous No.9177393]

SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW TIME, BITCHES! By means involving time travel and two pounds of cocaine, we've managed to acquire the 94 PROTONS OF /vr/ FINAL RELEASE! We'll be playing Chopblock & company's magnum opus in our most anticipated SNS to date!
Tonight's password is "neverever" so open up Doomseeker and let's get ready to roll through /vr/'s finest!
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666

[Anonymous No.9177394]

Detailing the Quake 2 25th anniversary map called Technical Base when I am not fighting the lawyer. I hate being in another legal battle that has dragged out for months. Last time was in 2014 and lasted over a year and still I lost. I don't want to fight the law for the sole purpose of being allowed to exist, I just want to work and map in peace.

[Anonymous No.9177395]

>>9177389
Also I think you can use other methods to spawn them, I once had something that spawned more from lost souls infighting.

[Anonymous No.9177401]

>>9176873
I voted vr2

[Anonymous No.9177415]

>>9177394
These look utterly gorgeous but I can't help but ask what kind of legal trouble you've gotten yourself into?

[Anonymous No.9177418]

>>9177415
he wants to tell you a sob story

[Anonymous No.9177424]

>>9177015
try borderless gaming

[Anonymous No.9177428]

>>9177394
uh-oh, I see a lightmap fuckup under one tile. better start over.

[Anonymous No.9177430]

>>9177393
Off to a great start.

[Anonymous No.9177440]

>>9176989
boom blaauuugh pew pew pew BOOM

[Anonymous No.9177452]

>>9175689
>>9174727
Peaceful Rest Valley. It's bricky and holds you by the balls for health and ammo, I found myself Tysoning quite a bit to conserve ammo, even before I got the Berserk pack, just because I was so low on ammo and so worried I wouldn't have enough for a really serious encounter if I didn't (and it felt pretty thrilling to punch out an Arch-Vile or two). I like the traps and ambushes, they're pretty mean, and I especially like the setup with the oldschool Plutonia teleporter pad.

It looks overall ok, though almost kind of barren for the wide and high ceiling corridors with little in terms of features. In a way this is a good look because it makes these large hallways feel lonely and unhomely, though at times this does end up making things look slightly bland.
I wouldn't say this is something which is in dire need of changing, but I would say that the level could benefit from adding some detail in some locations, just here and there (stuff like ceiling support beams, or maybe some indents up in a wall to place marble faces on, but you could do whatever you wanted which you think would work).

I think the things which would need changing is with the doors, frequently a lack of door tracks and clashing upper flats. Pic related for examples, simple changes.
Death Exit is improperly set up, see PROTTEST.wad in Mega for how to replicate. Also there ought to be a hidden normal exit somewhere in the level if a Death Exit is used, perhaps you could hide it in the rocket room, and it would need to be opened up from somewhere late in the level.

The one thing which I think is just odd is the Pinkies in the pit around the exit area, because you can't get there without being sent flying by that Arch-Vile, and there isn't anything down there to get. In one way this could be used for a missable secret, but currently it's just kills which are awkward and missable.
Some rock props on the cliffs around here could look nice.

[Anonymous No.9177453]

>>9176683
>Your favorite game is dying
>Submissions are on the decline
>Your solution is to fracture the community further
Why the fuck is he like this? One of the good things about being in a niche or small fandom is that people generally care more about keeping the game alive than their petty squabbles so usually you won't have big meltdowns. But this is just dumb.

[Anonymous No.9177463]

>>9177453
>>Submissions are on the decline
are there really?, I can't keep up
and I dropped doom entirely, it's fucking impossible to track every single shit it's released

[Anonymous No.9177464]

>>9177393
I don't know what in the fuck you boys did with this but after dying I couldn't respawn, I got a connection interrupted, kicked from the game, and then when I bring up the menu to quit the game, none of my inputs respond. Which forces me to use CTRL+ALT+DEL and forcibly close the game. I'm going to chalk this up to the host having severe brain problems.

[Anonymous No.9177472]

Discuss

[Anonymous No.9177478]

>>9177472
>imps
>meh design
rest is understandable

[Anonymous No.9177479]

>>9177472
They're all kino, at least visually

[Anonymous No.9177480]

>>9177463
By this point last year we had Blue Monday jam, Alkaline, Unused jam and some pretty major releases like Torrent of Impurities, The Punishment Due and Imhotep's Legacy.
This year it's been January Jump Jam 2, the relatively underwhelming Koohoo jam and now this Copper jam which has quite a few stinkers. I play almost everything new for Quake and this year has felt pretty slow across the board.

[Anonymous No.9177482]

>>9177472
Where's Romero's head?

[Anonymous No.9177485]

>>9177472
are there nazis in doom eternal?

[Anonymous No.9177487]

>>9177485
You'd have heard it a lot more in the shitty media hype if they were.

[Anonymous No.9177489]

>>9177480
>I play almost everything new for Quake and this year has felt pretty slow across the board
maybe they should stop trying to make the next quake with every single map
I do the same thing

[Anonymous No.9177490]

>>9177472
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.9177492]

>>9177472
>Archvile
>ok
Are you fucking serious?

[Anonymous No.9177493]

>>9176446
>However, a problem I do indeed see already within Doom mappeing here is that lots of people don't seem to like getting out of their Boom comfort zone.
I don't see anything wrong with people sticking to what they like especially since they're all doing it for free and for their own enjoyment.

[Anonymous No.9177495]

>>9177472
>>9177478
Actually no I have one more gripe.
The Arch-vile needs to be a top tier/kino one because they immediately stick out when they appear in a group of enemies and are terrifying design-wise.

[Anonymous No.9177501]

>>9177492
hes literally just a yellow corpse you faggit retard

[Anonymous No.9177502]

>>9177487
blunder of the millennium

[Anonymous No.9177504]

>>9176683
>I don't know why he chooses to do this
>>9177453
>Why the fuck is he like this?

idk if you guys are naive or what, but I see nothing surprising.
social climbing, cancelling community leads, leading projects without putting in effort (see last HW jam), siphoning users (first from func, now from quaddicted) - all looks like typical goonery to me. even if not intentional, the whole process is extremely typical and proven to work.

[Anonymous No.9177505]

>>9177489
>maybe they should stop trying to make the next quake with every single map
You should only do this if you're actually competent enough to pull it off. Some mappers don't know their limits though and they think they're hot shit when in fact they're just shit

[Anonymous No.9177512]

>>9177501
You can say something like this for every one of your "kino" designs, btw using tiermaker outs you as a faggot yourself.
>it's literally just a brain with legs
>it's literally just a giant red ball
>it's literally a skeleton with armor
Simplicity is not bad, in fact it's what makes some of the best designs. And the archvile is helped greatly by the spritework

[Anonymous No.9177513]

>>9177492
to be fair, the face tubes aren't really seen through the main sprites

[Anonymous No.9177515]

>>9177501
cacodemon is just a tomato
revenant is just a skeleton
imp is just a nigger

[Anonymous No.9177517]

>>9177472
spectres should be lower than pinkies because in a perfect world without things like memory limitations the sneaky enemy would have been more unique

[Anonymous No.9177523]

>>9177472
>a literal recolor is a great design
>archvile below that
shit list plain and simple

[Anonymous No.9177528]

>>9177482
Hopefully on his shoulders, but in reality it's most likely up his ass.

[Anonymous No.9177537]

>>9177393
keeps exceeding 2048 lost packets

[Anonymous No.9177538]

>>9177528
>in reality it's most likely up his ass
For having such a striking and memorable image, the guy's very dull in interviews.

[Anonymous No.9177564]

>>9177393
It's crashing too much.

[Anonymous No.9177568]

>>9177472
id lower the hell-knight and raise the archvile and pinkie.

[Anonymous No.9177569]

>>9177393
Can you stop using aimbots? You're making it really obvious.

[Anonymous No.9177585]

>>9177178
Fagweather and his friends are responsible for the "le quake 2 and 3 bad" which prior to planetquake's death, NO ONE ever thought of that, even baker's forum held Q2 and and hexen 2 in high regards to the point of modding stuff to early Q2Evolved stuff or heretic 2 own QRP.
Plus, he and his friends keeps shitting the Q2 or Q3A threads at /v/ out of pure spite.

>>9177341
has malice and ravages of the apocalypse source code ever released?

[Anonymous No.9177589]

>>9177569
>aimbots
I don't even use a crosshair.

[Anonymous No.9177601]

>>9177585
>prior to planetquake's death, NO ONE ever thought of that
I hate that self-aggrandizing furryman as much as the next guy but you can't be serious. Quake 2 died 1 year after its release and Quake 3 was not a proper substitute for Quake 1 because it didn't have single player content. Both games were disliked for different reasons, Q2 a lot more than Q3 obviously

[Anonymous No.9177606]

>>9177585
nah Q2 sucks. maybe one day somebody will make it bearable by fixing 90% of weapon and enemy animations, but no such luck so far.

[Anonymous No.9177619]

>>9177585
Anon, Quake 2 was so irreparably bad that Unreal was able to dethrone idTech and idTech was never taken seriously ever again

[Anonymous No.9177621]

This Halo mod plus babel monsters is way more fun than it has any right to be.

[Anonymous No.9177625]

>>9177619
I think Q3 and UE1 had about the same number of third party games actually. it was from Doom 3 onward that idtech had fallen out of use.

[Anonymous No.9177630]

>>9177606
isn't quake 3 why people say quake should be multiplayer and doom singleplayer?

[Anonymous No.9177632]

>>9177621
the unique advantages (and challenges) the mod probably gives you, plus the buffed demons probably make for a unique gameplay experience.

[Anonymous No.9177635]

>>9177630
Those ""people"" are either zoomers who don't know Q1 exists or normalfag sexhavers who only played in Internet clubs back in the day

[Anonymous No.9177647]

>>9177630
maybe? did you mean to reply to the other guy?
I'm fine with Q1 being left the fuck alone as I don't trust anyone to do it justice.

[Anonymous No.9177649]

>>9177394
I would tell you to leave norway, but seeing how the things are going of late, you better solve this shit.

also they look great, in any case i find it interesting that jehar and the other dipshits at TS who always shill for Q2MP, hasn't shown up yet to help with this project. but then they are occupied shilling FW's maps.

>>9177504
he wants to force this shit so only "they" are the mappers for Quake, i may not be surprised if lordhavoc is on this shit too with a new "progressive source port" for quake that is "vanilla friendly"
also the fact that this retard has shilltubers and streamers on his side doesn't help either.

is things like this that kills a community and creates more fractures, all because of one mentally deranged idiot who thinks 1 game matters, is pure retarded tribalism.

>>9177601
>>9177619
Quake 2 lasted more than Q3A at release, only when they fixed the netcode a year into release and the tools, is where the Q3A took off, mainly because Q3A at release was next to unplayable because timmy wallets released it with the most shit ass implementation of a netcode, paired with the early punkbuster service that would even ban you from official id servers.

Plus Q2engine was piss easy to work with even without tools, idtech 3 was a mess without the source and tools, also Goldsrc dabbed on idtech3, mainly Q1 and Q3 when it came to modding, since the damn thing took notes from Q2 development, it was easy to work and mod on GoldSRC.

and Unreal is Shit, since day 1, garbage to mod and garbage to program.

>>9177606
trying too hard tourist-kun

>>9177625
UE2 is where UE took off, UE1 was a shitshow that needed pure C++ magic to work, people doesn't remember early deus ex gamebreaking bugs, or even undying.

[Anonymous No.9177674]

>>9177649
>, in any case i find it interesting that jehar and the other dipshits at TS who always shill for Q2MP, hasn't shown up yet to help with this project
They're busy right now actually.
https://www.twitch.tv/tastyspleentv

[Anonymous No.9177693]

>>9177393

[Anonymous No.9177697]

>>9177693

[Anonymous No.9177701]

>>9177697
>>9174727

[Anonymous No.9177706]

>>9177630
No, people were saying that back in the Q1 days. It was the first FPS where the multiplayer was the big draw.

[Anonymous No.9177709]

>>9177697
queen of armour

[Anonymous No.9177710]

>>9177585
>has malice and ravages of the apocalypse source code ever released?
No idea about the other one, but MALICE's source code was lost and had to be decompiled from the progs file (meaning no comments and some weird anomalies like raw numbers being replaced with defined floats). It's usable, but awkward.

[Anonymous No.9177718]

>>9177393
Thank you for joining us for 94 Protons of /vr/, this is a true revolution of creativity and testament of /doom/'s unrivaled bastion of artistic vision. I'm sure it will inspire mappers for years to come.

See you next week for Malefactors.

[Anonymous No.9177719]

>>9177706
It's funny how we've looped back from people finding multiplayer amazing and groundbreaking to people wanting single player content back. It was unironically a fad that lasted until people realized other people suck

[Anonymous No.9177723]

>>9177393
>>9177718
Well that was something

[Anonymous No.9177727]

>>9177393

[Anonymous No.9177730]

>>9177723
It's time to chew cells and shit armor, and I've got infinite cells.

[Anonymous No.9177731]

>>9177393

[Anonymous No.9177735]

>>9177674
Dunno, i don't like the Q3 generations arena models on Q2 for weapons.
Powerups, armor and Health+Ammo feels nice.
I still remember the shitshow when this came out.

[Anonymous No.9177756]

>>9176987
how often does this happen? i don't think it's ever happened to me

[Anonymous No.9177757]

>>9177393
I banned the schizo for 7 weeks, hopefully he'll take his medication in his time off.
We're playing Community Chest with Malefactors next week as a return to simplicity.
Following that, we'll play SRB2Kart in our first semi-regular session of the mod.
That's all.

[Anonymous No.9177758]

>>9177719
Multiplayer is still alive and well, just not in the same way. Competitive games come and go faster than ever, but sandbox games keep high numbers for ages.
DuskWorld kinda proved that people just aren't too interested in rapid fire deathmatch anymore. Needs a gimmick or progression. Unlocks, some sort of long game.

[Anonymous No.9177762]

>>9177649
>trying too hard tourist-kun
look who's talking. I'm not the one dragging in outside drama from /v/, discord & twitter.
I normally don't engage with your crusade of the month (pointless as I've learned, like about the "compression" or about your bilinear schtick). but if you're back to your 2019 "Q1 is worst quake by /vr/ consensus", it ain't gonna fly. looking forward to your Q2-25 maps.

[Anonymous No.9177763]

>>9177757
is that austinado?

[Anonymous No.9177772]

>>9177354
very nice

[Anonymous No.9177778]

>>9177528
kek

[Anonymous No.9177786]

>>9177701
>corridor name

[Anonymous No.9177789]

>>9175656
Get a used $15 Geforce GT720 video card on ebay. Itll run up to new vegas no problem.

[Anonymous No.9177791]

>>9177621
that sprite looks pretty good and not out of place for a touched up screenshot of a 3d game
ignoring that doom's sprites are touched up photographs in the first place

[Anonymous No.9177795]

>>9177385
>>girl arms
Alright, you've done it now!

[Anonymous No.9177804]

>>9177795
Oh
So that's what the holes are for

[Anonymous No.9177807]

>>9175645
>GTX 750
Ha ha ha. I'm using a Geforce 210.

[Anonymous No.9177812]

>>9177393
can't find it, is it already over?

[Anonymous No.9177814]

>>9177812
Yes, and I'm glad for that.

[Anonymous No.9177815]

>>9177812
Yes.
Be glad you missed it. Seriously.

[Anonymous No.9177816]

>>9177814
>>9177815
dang

[Anonymous No.9177818]

>>9177814
Do you guys regularly get schizos or something?
Thought about trying it out sometime

[Anonymous No.9177824]

>>9177818
No, only today. The host got rid of him.

[Anonymous No.9177826]

>>9177818
In our 75 sessions, we've had 2, so it's more like an occasional circus freakshow than a regular occurrence.

[Anonymous No.9177830]

i remember when brutal doom was still in vogue, there were always a few coop full servers.
it was never my thing for solo but brutal doom coop was the shit. vixen maps and shit

[Anonymous No.9177832]

>>9177824
>>9177826
Oh that's good to know

[Anonymous No.9177835]

So is there a specific reason why megagame.wad gets so much stigmatization as of late or is there a culmination of different reasons that require a rundown to fully grasp?

[Anonymous No.9177836]

>>9177826
hmm i never experienced a schizo in online gaming, i'm almost curious

[Anonymous No.9177845]

Now that this mapset is relevant, what are your thoughts?

[Anonymous No.9177847]

>>9177832
Yeah they're good people. Always stuck doing shit on sundays so I don't get to jump in much as I'd want to. Worst you'll see'em do is just good old 4chan traditions. It's a fun time

[Anonymous No.9177848]

>>9177835
Setting aside my personal opinions on its gameplay and community, I just think it's overplayed on Zandronum. Part of the reason we started FNF/SNS was to bring attention to lesser played game modes.
>>9177845
Gusta is my #1 inspiration for my own maps so this WAD is naturally one of my favorites.
>>9177832
If you wanna get into SNS, I think next week's session will be best. We're playing something lowkey and simple and not something absolutely insane like we did tonight.

[Anonymous No.9177864]

>>9177835
no idea what others think of it but i'm not a megaman person and in 3d it's an eyesore.
other than that it seems fun.

[Anonymous No.9177865]

>>9177835
It's popular and people love to hate things that are popular I guess? I think we did do a boss invasion mode awhile back and people didn't really like it particularly since all the waves were very samey.

>>9175645
I have an old 750Ti that unfortunately has some bad memory or on it or something, it dies after running a game or even browsing the web for awhile. Kinda wish I had an idea of what was wrong but it's a pretty low priority

[Anonymous No.9177909]

>>9175715
>I really would like to see more Quake projects to follow up on VR.
Doom is just so heckin valid though. (And easy to map for.)

[Anonymous No.9177938]

>>9177848
>I just think it's overplayed on Zandronum.
One thing I've noticed with megagame.wad servers on Zandronum is there are barely any pure deathmatch servers you could find there being played on. It's always last man standing or rp servers with different forks of the same class addon that get any traffic.

[Anonymous No.9177957]

>>9177824
What happened?

[Anonymous No.9177961]

>>9177957
He called everyone pedos or something. Nothing much, but he was being serious and not ironic.

[Anonymous No.9177972]

>>9176372
Big boi. Fun enemy, when you have dodging his fireballs down.

[Anonymous No.9177984]

>>9176505
Haha wouldn't that be crazy haha

[Anonymous No.9178000]

anyone playing with mods or in a sourceport or map that allows jumps - do you constantly jump like a goofball while on damaging floors to mitigate the damage?

because I sure do

[Anonymous No.9178007]

>>9178000
I resist the urge to press space to jump but if a modded rocket launcher has enough knockback I'll do a cheeky vertical rocket jump to get to a high place once in a blue moon

[Anonymous No.9178049]

>>9176741
Not joking. It's not hardest Doom 2 for sure, but hardest (Ultimate) Doom wad. It's not slaughter, but it's like dtwid but difficulty tuned as high as you can while still retaining the feeling of original Doom.

[Anonymous No.9178073]

*ahem*
Graf is a big gay for not letting me set pain chances properly with ZScript, but my autistic programming workaround powers outrank his utter homosexuality so now you can counter-punch/counter-hit demons in the dev version of Babel with 100% guarantee of causing a flinch if you do it right, skill notwithstanding. Note that this only works on their bite frames, nothing else.
I'm not entirely sure I'm going to put this in, since it does seem a bit busted, but if I do it'll be with a nerf to the chainsaw on Demons specifically. It'll still lock Spectres in place and counters will work on Spectres, but I'll nerf its overall chance on Demons since the only reason it was so high to begin with was to avoid instakilling the player when they got locked into a "chainsaw the demons lol" scenario in a map, which this also fixes and fixes better than the old fix.

[Anonymous No.9178090]

>X/Y billboards

[Anonymous No.9178105]

>>9176642
The "Fiber Demon" posters make me laugh.

[Anonymous No.9178106]

>>9178090
I wish Mr Chicken would just allow us to control the extent of which Y-Billboarding goes, a subtle 15-20 degree like in Build games would work wonders.

[Anonymous No.9178170]

Still trying to decide if this was a good idea or not. Might have it only work this perfectly for the chainsaw and punches, desu.

[Anonymous No.9178174]

Sound posts?

[Anonymous No.9178180]

>>9178000
>do you constantly jump like a goofball while on damaging floors to mitigate the damage?
i don't wanna answer that :(

[Anonymous No.9178183]

>>9178170
They got angry when you killed their first friend.

[Anonymous No.9178185]

>>9178183
It do in fact be like that

[Anonymous No.9178195]

>>9178170
tbf if I was a demon trying to kill doomguy, I'd find it really goddamn distracting if he was shoving a fucking chainsaw into my face too

[Anonymous No.9178203]

>>9178195
Yeah see I like that part, but what I don't necessarily like is that it also makes it so you can do this with the SMG, or the chaingun. It kinda neuters the demons a bit when you can pretty much just swat them and go "No, bad demon, you don't get to bite me" with literally anything.
I've got it working with chainsaw+fist only and I think it's alright.

[Anonymous No.9178234]

>>9176683
I just checked out new maps on a whim today and found that site exists now with its bizarre anti-Quaddicted ruling and the sheep man in charge. What in the goddamn is even going on in Q1SP? I'd ask elsewhere but even the usual places seem to hate Quaddicted and its admin now for some reason so there's 0 chance of an unbiased reply. Someone did point out that the part about 'joining together communities' is pretty funny given that the Slipseer admin has left at least three of them, though.

[Anonymous No.9178270]

so
prboom+ for normal doom and normal wads
gzdoom for cuhrazee mods
correct?

[Anonymous No.9178280]

>>9178270
Yeah, sure, that'll do. Throw in Chocolate/Crispy if you want to go full vanilla purist mode.

[Anonymous No.9178282]

>>9178270
Pretty much. You don't really have to worry too much about features in other source ports, unless you want colored blood in a vanilla port.

[Anonymous No.9178286]

>>9178282
mmmmmmmmmmmmm colored blood is nice...

[Anonymous No.9178316]

>>9177957
The short of it is some moron who got himself banned for schizoposting here took his butthurt to SNS and asked us to shit up the thread for him. He started lashing out at people and calling them pedophiles or some shit when he was told to fuck off and now he's banned.

[Anonymous No.9178348]

By god I did it, I made the Archvile's code less awful. Then I immediately overcomplicated the shit out of the minion code to make them have the same ghost-y effect, fade out when they die, and die when their master dies.

[Anonymous No.9178350]

>>9177727
final doom is bae.

[Anonymous No.9178423]

How do I disable the custom intro/title screen of gameplay mods so that it shows the title of the specific WAD instead? I can't seem to find any suggestions via Google.

[Anonymous No.9178439]

>>9178423
Well I've scoured the damn net and as far as I can tell the only place to get Pyromania 2 or Pyromania Pro is amazon for like 120 each.
Pyromania 1 is nowhere, weirdly enough. For something that was so prevalent in media the only useful thing to be found is the one explosion that i and another anon made a gif of.

[Anonymous No.9178453]

>>9178423
Remove TITLEPIC from gameplay mod manually?
Alternatively, play wads unmodded for first time.

[Anonymous No.9178457]

>>9178453
I think he's talking about those fancy animated sequences, in which case he'll have to remove the TITLEMAP map.

[Anonymous No.9178459]

>>9178423
If you load the map second the map's titlepic will take precedence, but if you have something with a titlemap it's a bit more complex. You'll have to delete the TITLEMAP lump inside the pk3 using SLADE or something.

[Anonymous No.9178480]

>>9178439
I did manage to find some old sample gifs... Not sure how useful they'll be since they're all pretty low color depth gifs from 1998. Might be okay if someone is interested in using them as a base to clean up.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/87hyvxfoj99mwlo/pyromaniaSamples.zip/file

didn't mean to respond to that post, forgot to delete post number in the reply box.

found on trinity3d.com on the wayback machine ~1998

[Anonymous No.9178482]

>>9176030
>First level of Battle out of Hell is a bunch of really gimmicky melee enemies that don't even swarm you well
>Second level is an absurdly fun intro into a carnival followed by an absurdly shitty on rails section with the black tarot requirement more or less requiring you to have the no damage golden card+10 second extension+three uses
Yeah I can tell the level design is already worse of.
Shit, I really enjoyed the original Painkiller.

[Anonymous No.9178510]

>>9178482
I tried the one where you play the faggy demon and it sucked. I haven't played a PK game otherwise since the original release of the first game. Which I think is great.

[Anonymous No.9178521]

>>9176030
Overdose is OK, some of the new weapons are fun. H&D is decent since it's almost entirely old levels with a new coat of paint, but has an extremely Jewish DLC scheme. Everything else is shit I couldn't even finish.

[Anonymous No.9178523]

>>9178521
Overdose. That was the one. It's awful.

[Anonymous No.9178571]

>>9178523
>It's awful.
Nah, it's only a C-grade budget shooter, it's at least got some new environments and shit. The latter three expansions, those are awful. One is ridiculously huge open environments with no progression signposting and relatively few enemies, the second is even more dogshit because it devolves into boring square box arenas that get flooded with enemies before you get let out to go to the next one. Like a parody of shitty slaughterwads. Can't remember what the third one was like, but it was made by the same guys as the first so it won't be any better.

[Anonymous No.9178591]

>>9174730
>>9175689
Update for 94 Protons of /vr/:
https://files.catbox.moe/qdlb48.zip
"Peaceful Rest Valley" v5 by donk_konk
MIDI: Forest of Monsters from Super Castlevania IV (https://vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/snes/Cv4-st2.mid))
Tested with DSDA-Doom v0.24.2

Changed a lot of shit. Added extra detail to some rooms, fixed some texture/flat oddities, removed unnecessary shit, and reworked the non-death exit.

>>9177452
Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad there's nothing too fucked up with the gameplay and that there are no softlocks in the map.

[Anonymous No.9178593]

post janky wads from the 1990s that are awful now but were big back in the day

ill start by posting dystopia 3. the levels are really rough but the mappers were also really good at vanilla doom mapping effects so its like they had the technical knowledge but only limited talent. also map 05 music is ear murder

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/d-f/dyst3

all in all 4/5 blast from the past product of its time

[Anonymous No.9178594]

>>9178439
>Pyromania 2 or Pyromania Pro
both are on cgpeers but with 0 seeds, last active a year+ ago

[Anonymous No.9178647]

>>9174730
>>9175689
Update for 94 Protons of /vr/:
https://files.catbox.moe/3lbmr7.zip
"Peaceful Rest Valley" v5 by donk_konk
MIDI: Forest of Monsters from Super Castlevania IV (https://vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/snes/Cv4-st2.mid))
Tested with DSDA-Doom v0.24.2

Changed a lot of shit. Added extra detail to some rooms, fixed some texture/flat oddities, removed unnecessary shit, and reworked the non-death exit.
>>9177452
Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad there's nothing too fucked up with the gameplay and that there are no softlocks in the map. Also, I hope you don't mind me deleting my initial post, I just had to make a few quick changes.

[Anonymous No.9178650]

>>9178594
If considered just trying to contact people who have/had it. See if they'll upload it to archive somewhere.

[Anonymous No.9178659]

>>9178571
I can't stand hearing the protagonist say the same shit 4 times per minute. It's aggravating. Also it being a step down in every department from the original game is just disappointing.
Everything about it rubbed me the wrong way in some way or another.

[Anonymous No.9178662]

Should I get PrBoom+ or PrBoom+um?

[Anonymous No.9178667]

>>9178662
um. Although the development seems to have died down, so maybe get DSDA-Doom instead.

[Anonymous No.9178670]

>>9174780
if you like Blood 2 you might want to play Kiss Psycho Circuss. same engine and game theme but much more polished

[Anonymous No.9178678]

lmao in GZDoom you can just drop past the torches blocking the red building in The Citadel and get there from the start of the level. I only realized this after I replayed it in Crispy Doom and it didn't work

[Anonymous No.9178708]

>>9177341
>Even if VR2 wins I'll probably still make a MALICE map of my own.
Fair enough.
>I'd certainly be willing to port elements of Zerstorer to VR2.
Perhaps it's a good idea to dedicate VR2 to Zerstörer? Like, go for "Violent Rumble 2: Zerstörer Boogaloo". Make it the main highlight of the sequel.
...by the way, anyone tried porting Quake 2 enemies to the original one (in some way, at least)? I know there's a mod for weapons, but what about the arsenal.

[Anonymous No.9178725]

>>9176372
Anybody who speaks Russian knows that he constantly says OБHИMAЛA
meaning hugged [by a female]

You will never unhear this now.

[Anonymous No.9178729]

>>9176971
looks kinda cool

[Anonymous No.9178743]

Should I use plutmidi.wad for my first playthrough of Plutonia or do it with the Doom II soundtrack first?

[Anonymous No.9178747]

>>9178743
there's a separate fucking wad for music? I thought it's just plutonia wad and it has everything

[Anonymous No.9178750]

>>9178747
Plutmidi.wad is a community-made original soundtrack. As released, Plutonia used a mix of Doom 1/2 music.

[Anonymous No.9178752]

>>9178670
>the Kiss tie-in game is the only LithTech 1.X game that actually got properly finished instead of rushed out the door
What a wacky timeline.

[Anonymous No.9178771]

>>9178662
Woof

[Anonymous No.9178793]

I tried out DSDA-Doom and I think it's great, a couple things though:
There's a lot of options and no search for them, so I'm wondering if I'm missing some stuff
>Any way to turn on "secret revealed" messages?
>Are monsters and splash damage infinite height and if so any way to turn it off? Haven't gotten a chance to test if they are or not
>Any way to turn off the weird tiny timer at the end of levels?
>Isn't there a way to make it ask you if you want to reload a save with a Y or N prompt after dying or was that another port?
>Colored blood?

[Anonymous No.9178794]

>>9178725
No, he screams "Maть eбaл!" Meaning of that phrase is "fucked (your) mom". Try to unhear that!

[Anonymous No.9178795]

>>9177909
>Doom is just so heckin valid though.
Can you say that again but in English this time?

[Anonymous No.9178837]

>>9178793
also when do I have to fuck with complevels? I read that default just has all the compatibility options on by default, I'm guessing I only need to change it when a wad's readme tells me to?

[Anonymous No.9178849]

>>9177393
>That choprevenant sprite
Kek, this would work nice as a monster replacement or a player skin

[Anonymous No.9178850]

>>9178793
>secret revealed
Somewhere in automap settings.

[Anonymous No.9178863]

>>9178647
Looks great. I feel this map makes me a little better at punching.
The exit teleporter is still not quite right though, the inner linedefs should have the teleport action, also you should use the sky transfer function to make the death sector bright red with 0 light.
The Arch-Vile at the end feels like he'd almost be easily missed with the delay in him teleporting in.

Also this isn't necessarily something that you need to fix on your end if you don't know how, but the MIDI fades out before it begins again, leaving this brief awkward silence, if anyone here can address that, that would be great.

[Anonymous No.9178875]

>>9178708
>...by the way, anyone tried porting Quake 2 enemies to the original one (in some way, at least)?
Alkaline has the mutants from Quake 2 available as an enemy, I've encountered them in some of the maps.
Bastion of the Underworld has the enforcer from Quake 2 although his chaingun is modified and it's a plasma gun.

[Anonymous No.9178898]

>>9178875
Alright, so that is possible. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.9178907]

>>9177415
>>9177418
I can't tell due to legal obligations, but it's related to my company, just like last time. Norway's government has a serious hateboner against SMEs.

>>9177428
RIP.

>>9177649
I can't leave right now. Too many work-related obligations. Also yes, weird that there's not more Q2SP-support from TastySpleen.

[Anonymous No.9178914]

Also the Quake 2 25th anniversary jam is almost filled up with contributors now! There's still room for more, though, if you want to help out testing or even collaborate on maps with other folks, that is also possible.

[Anonymous No.9178941]

I like this wad.

[Anonymous No.9178945]

>>9178941
that's certainly a base over there.

[Anonymous No.9178969]

Any superstructures/megalophobia wads recommendations? Not from cacowards.

[Anonymous No.9178991]

>>9178907
>Norway's government has a serious hateboner against SMEs.
Which government doesn't?

[Anonymous No.9179002]

>>9178991
>>9178907
>Norway's government has a serious hateboner against SMEs.
Oh, that's a bitch, good luck anon with legal trouble and q2 mapping. Q2 mapping is not popular so people like you are a treat

[Anonymous No.9179007]

>>9178991
Finland seems to be very kind to startups and SMEs.

>>9179002
Jumpmodders make 99 DM maps every week but SP ain't one.

[Anonymous No.9179012]

>>9178969
I'd also like to know some. Sunder comes to mind, but that's Cacoward stuff. Why not that stuff anyway?
Also source on that map?

[Anonymous No.9179015]

Oh, so completing one of Alfonzone's sections puts you back at square one. Treasure Tech was actually a bad choice for this then.

[Anonymous No.9179020]

>>9179012
Sunder, duh

[Anonymous No.9179021]

>>9178941
Isn't this just the chasm with different skybox?

[Anonymous No.9179034]

>>9178174

[Anonymous No.9179069]

>>9179021
That's map of chaos, so "just" the base maps but harder. The interesting point is the weapon. I fucking love the ranger.

[Anonymous No.9179090]

>Try out arcane dimensions
>holy shit this is fun
>Uses the thief 2 green spider models
Nope. Fuck FUCK those spiders. They should not be that big.
At least they don't hiss like in Thief.

[Anonymous No.9179115]

>>9179090
https://files.catbox.moe/fvm6qs.wav :)

[Anonymous No.9179123]

>>9179090
>At least they don't hiss like in Thief.
Did you know spiders do that videogame hissing in real life too?

[Anonymous No.9179137]

>>9179007
you can blame TS forums for that.
the death of Ten Four really crippled mapping

[Anonymous No.9179141]

>>9179137
Did Ten Four really have that much influence? So just because you have no shot of winning an imaginary png medal you no longer care about mapping?
They only gave medals to Kona anyway, I'm sure he was paying them under the hood or something.

[Anonymous No.9179149]

>>9178286
forget about prboom+ and go with woof
it has the same base features, plus it gives you options for colored blood, brightmaps and swirling liquid flats

nugget-doom its fine too: its basically woof with the option of disabling infinite tall monsters

[Anonymous No.9179153]

>>9179149
If only it allowed me to play with at least 960x540 resolution.

[Anonymous No.9179168]

>>9178439
>>9178480
>>9178594
>>9178650
thanks for helping in the search, it really bothers me these iconic graphics haven't had their source properly archived, I really want and could use them.

Half-life 2 beta has some fire sprites that I recognize may be from pyromania, not sure how compressed they are compared to the originals but they are there.

[Anonymous No.9179186]

>>9179141
check the archives later, it was literally the last working refuge for mapping once planetquake died, since TS went full autistic with q2pro and mp maps, and café/MarkShan knightmare's forum became notorious due to the Generations Arena assets incident which can be resumed as "NOOOOOOOO U CANT BACKPORT OUR Q2 WEAPON REMAKES FOR Q3A BACK TO Q2" by Phoenix from wirehead studios.

[Anonymous No.9179202]

do people play test their wads for ultra violent beatability or is it left as an impossible joke difficulty like in original 2 games?


pic related: idea for a monster

[Anonymous No.9179212]

>>9179202
>holecube

[Anonymous No.9179216]

>>9179137
I have never heard of Ten Four.

[Anonymous No.9179220]

>>9179202
>ultra violent
>impossible
I'm going to assume you meant nightmare.

[Anonymous No.9179226]

>>9179220
man those are some bad rng rocket rolls

[Anonymous No.9179240]

>>9179202
UV is almost default for most WADs unless the wad is insanely difficult like sunlust.

[Anonymous No.9179286]

>>9179202
Can you imagine being the Chinese factory worker who has to make these fucking horrors.

[Anonymous No.9179307]

>>9179202
This is what happens when Icon of Sin choses to focus on one particular sin. Now we need to find other 6.

[Anonymous No.9179309]

>>9179168
I'll keep looking.
I guess there was a psyromania hd 5 set that sounds like it may have included 1 and 2.
I dunno, one of them has to come up for a reasonable price.

[Anonymous No.9179312]

>>9179307
Oh that's brilliant

[Anonymous No.9179335]

>>9179307
>Gluttony
Cube of mouths
>Envy
Cube of mirrors
>Greed
A golden cube with dollar signs maybe
>Wrath
Angry looking skulls

No idea how Sloth and Pride would look

[Anonymous No.9179367]

>>9179335
Sloth and Pride would be that fucking cube mining game Peter Molyneux did.

[Anonymous No.9179384]

>>9179307
>>9179312
>>9179335
we need a wad where icon of sin spawns specific sin related monsters and growth: the pink fleshy stuff on the walls in Doom 1 but this time it's food, pillows, tits etc.

[Anonymous No.9179391]

>>9179384
forgot to add :like sin related levels and monsters. final boss is a glorious mess

[Anonymous No.9179406]

>>9175989
It's badly balanced on many maps and not a great first experience for many of the people who had it as their first experience. Other than that, it's fine and most of the drama was completely contrived and pointless. I fucking hate when people go "heh... ur jus jelus" to critique like they're on the mental level of a 13 year old girl, but it really does feel like most of the BD sperging was just that, if not from skill of the author than from popularity, from bigger autists than Mark.

[Anonymous No.9179409]

>>9176372
>is not a man
>is not a cube
>is not a bus
what did they mean by this?

[Anonymous No.9179437]

marph you teasing fucker
https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1434169861991800837

[Anonymous No.9179445]

>>9179406
>I fucking hate when people go "heh... ur jus jelus" to critique like they're on the mental level of a 13 year old girl, but it really does feel like most of the BD sperging was just that, if not from skill of the author than from popularity, from bigger autists than Mark.
It's part of what drove me away from a bunch of modding discords, I'm pretty indifferent on BD but a lot of the mod devs who claimed to know better were just bitching about it a lot of the time like it was teenage schoolgirl drama.

Shit just made me hate most of them because they were more willing to bitch all the time than they were to actually do cool stuff to prove they can do better than their chosen enemy of modding.

[Anonymous No.9179461]

>>9179090
pretty sure those are from hexen 2, not thief

[Anonymous No.9179473]

>>9179445
I saw it get to some absolutely absurd levels in some places I've now left. Around the time he got banned from the Zdoom forums, it only took about a month before the story mutated from "bro, he told some random guy to kill himself, isn't that a dick move?" to people actually claiming he murdered him. It's just nuts, there were so many autists inventing things to be outraged about.

[Anonymous No.9179474]

>Tell myself I'll play through Quake 2 and its expansions without savescumming.
>Literally start losing consciousness mid fight on a regular basis because of how boring the moment-to-moment combat is.
>Rescind initial goal, now absolutely refuse to replay any sections on the off chance I blank out and fuck up.
>Mash quicksave every 30 seconds out of spite for having to kite rocketsponge enemy after rocketsponge enemy down corridors.

literally impossible

[Anonymous No.9179483]

>>9179473
Chinese whispers + people will believe anything bad when somebody is the most evil person alive to a lot of the community.

I still see stuff like that come up on occasion, usually from people who should know better but that's the community for you.

[Anonymous No.9179487]

>>9179474
Are you a zoomer by any chance?

[Anonymous No.9179490]

>>9179474
>Literal symptoms of Catalepsia and possibly hereditary Alzheimer
Anon... it isn't Q2, your brain is fucked.

[Anonymous No.9179498]

Any wads that add F.E.A.R. guns/mechanics? The name isn't very compatible with search engines

[Anonymous No.9179506]

>>9179498
You mean bullet time and realistic modern weapons, right?

[Anonymous No.9179508]

>>9179490
it doesn't happen with other games
even deus ex which got boring to me halfway through never made me actually start falling asleep at the wheel

[Anonymous No.9179510]

>>9179498
What kind of mechanics are you looking for, things like slowdown and melee or things like slow tracers and leaning?

[Anonymous No.9179515]

>>9179473
I remember one server (probably the ZDoom one) just being people bitching about him releasing needlessly mods when he released whatever his second gore mod is called (the ACS-based one) because Universal Gibs and Droplets existed, then days later they were practically tearing their dicks off when Nashgore got a ZScript update. Shit seemed very double standards.
>>9179498
Closest would probably Project MSFix'd for the guns.

[Anonymous No.9179537]

>>9179487
>>9179490
He's right, Q2 is soulless tech demo -tier. Also it ruined arena fps forever by inventing the railgun.

[Anonymous No.9179543]

>>9179537
Shadow Warrior came out before Quake 2.

[Anonymous No.9179546]

>>9179474
Yeah, quake 2 is when id software went to shit. It's just a bad game riding on quake's name. Romero's importance really shows.

[Anonymous No.9179552]

>FW attwhore discord has arrived
does this people has lives outside instead of shitting threads over a fucking game or their Q1 maps being shit and inferior to /vr/ maps?

[Anonymous No.9179560]

>>9178593
Ending was fun. You get to blow microsoft.

[Anonymous No.9179562]

>>9179506
>>9179510
Bullet time and more melee options plus the guns mostly. The other stuff would be cool too though
>>9179515
Thanks

[Anonymous No.9179567]

>>9179562
It's not a perfect mod but this gives the bullet time options.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=57013

[Anonymous No.9179569]

>>9178969
>not from cacowards
They might have occasional misses, but avoiding wad because it was awarded is retarded as fuck. /vr/ would have it's own boner awards, but it's hard to workaround with anonymous forum.

Sunder and Abandon do have all the megastructures, but you won't like them because you don't like cacowards. (Also imagine not playing the best dbp, because it got a cacoward)

[Anonymous No.9179572]

>>9179015
Gameplay mod for gzdoom wad, is the way for bugged experience.

[Anonymous No.9179579]

>>9179012
>>9179569
I'm not avoiding them, I'm just looking for something I'm not aware of.

[Anonymous No.9179582]

>>9179537
>Also it ruined arena fps forever by inventing the railgun
Skill issue.

[Anonymous No.9179586]

>>9179015
It can be fixed but it usually means cleaning out a bunch of lines from ACS scripts, assuming they included the sources.

[Anonymous No.9179615]

>>9179579
Ah, understandable, you should have clarified.

[Babel Guy !OWvSkSdXw6 No.9179617]

https://strawpoll.com/polls/e7ZJOQN0Gy3
Just thinking a few things over. If you play Babel, (or if you don't I guess, I can't stop you) feel free to vote. I could go either way on this one. If enough people participate I have a few other things I might put up to votes.

[Anonymous No.9179627]

>>9179508
>deus ex got boring halfway through
Opinion discarded, you colossal pleb

[Anonymous No.9179637]

>>9179617
I wish you could do something where the Babel titlemap shows up and then does something to show the titlescreen and menu theme of the levelset.

[Babel Guy !OWvSkSdXw6 No.9179642]

>>9179637
Yeah, if that was possible I'd do it, or at least have it on a switch in the options. I've been thinking about removing it for a while though, so it's not like this is out of nowhere. It was a neat idea at the time but honestly I find myself missing the levelset titlemaps.

[Anonymous No.9179646]

>>9179642
*titlepics

[Anonymous No.9179660]

>>9178174
finally reinstalled sound player and lmao wtf
actually sounds like a mancubus inbetween numbers lmao

[Anonymous No.9179664]

>Malcolm in the Middle theme plays
Fug. I'm counting "replace" as half of a "get rid of it" vote. Maybe the count will change once I get out of this work meeting, nobody tell my boss I play Doom on the clock ok?

[Anonymous No.9179665]

>>9174727
Is this design from the guy that made the shota caco?

[Anonymous No.9179674]

>>9179660
Hahaha, I'm glad I could give you one hell of a re-introduction. Have this GMOTA shitpost.

[Anonymous No.9179676]

>>9179642
It was very cool for a titlescreen but I’m right there with you, I miss them too. If it helps, my vote would specifically be “get a new map, or remove it”. Will the tips still be there?

[Anonymous No.9179680]

>>9179676
Oh definitely, this is just the TITLEMAP lump. I'm keeping the tips.

[Anonymous No.9179705]

>>9179665
Uh, not aware of a shota caco. That art in the OP pic is by Alice88. She hits the rare triple combo of being a Japanese Doomer, good at drawing, and being a real girl.

[Anonymous No.9179706]

>>9179642
doesn't Abord_M do something with the titlescreens inside it's own titlemap?

[Anonymous No.9179708]

>>9179706
Yes, it uses the TITLEPIC as a texture in the map.

[Anonymous No.9179714]

>>9179708
You can do that? I was under the impression that TITLEPIC wasn't a texture.

[Anonymous No.9179715]

>>9179705
Kura is pretty great, I hope shit's been going better for her lately.

Also you forgot she's done maps.

[Anonymous No.9179724]

>>9179714
Anything is possible with the Power of ZDoom™

[Anonymous No.9179727]

>>9179715
That too. Tatsurdcacocaco is doing a sequel to JDCP, I hope she'll contribute a map this time as well.

[Anonymous No.9179728]

>>9179665
Post the Cacoshota

[Anonymous No.9179732]

>>9179724
Huh, well I guess I'll look at how it's being done there.

[Anonymous No.9179747]

>>9176873
Will probably leave this poll running until the end of next thread.
Reboasting for addension: https://strawpoll.com/polls/40Zmdvbzoga

>>9178708
>Perhaps it's a good idea to dedicate VR2 to Zerstörer? Like, go for "Violent Rumble 2: Zerstörer Boogaloo". Make it the main highlight of the sequel.
Zerstörer's anniversary is just next month. There's no way we'd get something out in time for it, so I don't think that would make a lot of sense. Anyone would certainly be welcome to dedicate their map to it though.

[ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs No.9179753]

>>9179747
>forgot to tripfag
welp

[Anonymous No.9179764]

>>9176873
If your idea for VR2 is to spruce up what was already done and cut the chaff, you can remove the rune from beho. If there ends up being enough submissions this time, you can just remove it entirely and replace it with something else. I might even do a redux of UC if I get the time.

[Anonymous No.9179768]

Nobody messes with my meat

[Anonymous No.9179776]

>abort_m is full of one-line if statements with no braces or spacing
Through my job experience I have developed a violent urge to whip people who write things like this.
However, I can see how the TITLEPIC thing is being done. It's just weird and kind of janky, specifically when the aspect ratio goes out of wack.

[Anonymous No.9179782]

>>9179727
Oh sweet, JPCP was one of my favorite map .wads

[Anonymous No.9179787]

>>9179728

[Anonymous No.9179816]

>>9179727
I hope so, I genuinely have had loads of fun on her maps.

[Anonymous No.9179821]

Welp, it almost works

[Anonymous No.9179827]

>>9179821
Magical

[Anonymous No.9179828]

>>9179821
That WAD looks dumb and gay and the people who made it must be even dumber and gayer

[Anonymous No.9179835]

>>9179828
Your MOM looks dumb and gay.

[Anonymous No.9179837]

>>9179835
OH SHI-

[Anonymous No.9179841]

Aaand it works, kinda. Need to test it with a 16:9 image to be sure. If I do decide to stop being a mapping scrub and remake the titlemap this trick is fairly simple to do. It looks absolutely jank-tier, but it's not that bad.
>>9179828
Testo waddu prease understanderu

[Anonymous No.9179891]

>>9179787
Ah, that's not a Caco shota, that's an original character called C.Kid, from Doom Radys, a strange gameplay mod.

[Anonymous No.9179897]

So, if anyone wants to know how this TITLEPIC thing works, here's the experiment/demo I made to test it out with comments for the ZScript explaining what's going on: https://mega.nz/file/e90C0TYT#9YeTo46RAPOzMVSLUIQmIhqpJFRnjCpNwss5LqysHSw
We really do need more small tutorials like this that are searchable and not hidden away in some private Discord chat. ZS is a super interesting tool but I think people are too put off from using it by how little documentation it has.
NOTE: I didn't actually have a 16:9 titlepic to test this with but assuming the original worked, this will work.

[Anonymous No.9179906]

>>9179837
What's that gif from?

[Anonymous No.9179912]

>>9179897
I may or may not have uploaded the wrong version and needed to reupload. Either way, here it is.
https://mega.nz/file/3002ULZT#5w8iyYvG4uPKaHVgs0jZulN1_O92x3-GTEeaHdiTek8

[Anonymous No.9179928]

>>9179586
There's nothing about ACS in there. But, I did spy ResetHealth and ResetInventory in ZMAPINFO.

[Anonymous No.9179940]

>>9179015
On the contrary I think episodic wads are great for mods built for continuous play like DRLA over a full 32 maps
but maybe resetting should be optional like it is in Compendium

[Anonymous No.9179941]

>>9179715
One of her maps is one of my favorites in JPCP. Fucking cheeky, it is.

[Anonymous No.9179950]

>>9179020
based

[Anonymous No.9179957]

I need to put something interesting at the back of this room, and I'm out of ideas. And at the sides of this room for that matter.

[Anonymous No.9179959]

>>9179897
>>9179912
Nice and yeah, we were promised decent documentation when ZScript came out and it's still not fucking shown up.

[Anonymous No.9179961]

>>9179957
A giant face made of lava

[Anonymous No.9179964]

>>9179957
Broken up gapes in the walls with something showing through? Eyes or some shit?

[Anonymous No.9179967]

>>9179959
"Just like unzip gzdoom.pk3 and read that, there's your docs"
- Graf, probably

[Anonymous No.9179968]

>>9179957
Sector Church Organ

[Anonymous No.9179992]

>>9179968
You might be onto something.

[Anonymous No.9179994]

>>9179897
nice, dl'ing just in case because I share your motivation.

[Anonymous No.9180010]

>>9179994
For the record, this is basically copypasted from abort_m, just with more comments, constants, and better formatting.

[Anonymous No.9180012]

sprite render test, ignore the art quality, the sprite colors are messed up right now

[Anonymous No.9180019]

>>9180012
"ai" test :^)

[Anonymous No.9180021]

>>9180012
>>9180019
That is fucking cool. What were you coding this for again? It's been so long I've forgotten. Genesis?

[Anonymous No.9180028]

>>9180012
>>9180019
Each update for this looks more and more fun

[Anonymous No.9180054]

>>9180010
>_m
How long till it gets name searched and bitched about?

[Anonymous No.9180058]

>>9180021
yeah, genesis

[Anonymous No.9180067]

>>9180012
>>9180019
reminds me of Zero Tolerance

[Anonymous No.9180075]

>>9180054
I have no idea what you're talking about. Genuinely, I don't follow most community drama unless it involves /vr/ somehow.

[Anonymous No.9180098]

>>9179674
smol is cute! Cute!!!

[Anonymous No.9180121]

>>9179968
I did, lol. Even though it doesn't make any sense for pipe organ to just sit there.

[Anonymous No.9180130]

What's the Spy button do in DSDA-Doom
And what the fuck is the default screenshot key, it's like a diamond or some shit

[Anonymous No.9180134]

>>9180121
Add candelabras to the sides and candles all around.

[Anonymous No.9180149]

>>9180012
>>9180019
Fuggin dope

[Anonymous No.9180151]

>>9180121
hah excellent

[Anonymous No.9180160]

>>9180121
Mapper niggas really be out here makin' whole pipe organs for fun

[Anonymous No.9180261]

>>9180130
I think spy is multiplayer and screen shot by default is asterisk on numpad.

[Anonymous No.9180282]

>>9180160
>>9180151
I'm thinking I will move it to a secret and have bloodstained key open a closet with something nasty. Like multiple arch-viles but also a power up of some sort.

[Anonymous No.9180317]

>Bethesda.net version
kek

[Anonymous No.9180325]

>>9176784
>It persistently still comes up on a bunch of modding servers that the BD dev is somehow at fault for the original sprites infamously based on real corpses.
it's weird because there was also a rumor of id themselves basing hanged corpse sprites over pics of mussolini and his mistress
plus, if mark did based sprites over real corpses, he'd do that on his own, which is not the same as naughty dog or neatherrealm forcing people to look at liveleak videos
stuff like him sending a wikipedia article about suicide to some guy or having the word "nigger" in a text about the plasma rifle did happen but you'd see this in a video about brutal doom that was on encyclopedia dramatica's video about doom
in a way, it's funny how even ed shittalked mark when they could have also seen him as "based" but i guess it was a pre-2014 era
>>9180317
does that mean master levels is just the beth version or do they keep a vanilla/dosbox version too?

[Anonymous No.9180337]

>>9180325
>does that mean master levels is just the beth version or do they keep a vanilla/dosbox version too?
they have both, the orginal version comes with vanilla doom 2 now instead of being a separate product.

[Anonymous No.9180348]

>>9180325
>it's weird because there was also a rumor of id themselves basing hanged corpse sprites over pics of mussolini and his mistress
I think the former is probably legit, I remember Adrian saying something about shit like that in an interview somewhere.
>plus, if mark did based sprites over real corpses, he'd do that on his own
Allegedly there was a version of Ketchup that had photos used for gibs but I never saw it surface.

[Anonymous No.9180365]

>>9180325
>in a way, it's funny how even ed shittalked mark when they could have also seen him as "based" but i guess it was a pre-2014 era
ED used to shit talk everyone and everything, regardless of whether or not they deserved it. That's where the humor came from. Nu-ED is incredibly dull in comparison.

[Anonymous No.9180369]

>>9180317
Do they still make you sign into bethesda net?

[Anonymous No.9180372]

>>9180348
I don't think it was Ketchup, but I'm pretty sure it was released at some point but never updated and quickly became out of date. It was a sub mod for BD that I don't even remember if he produced. I still don't get the spergout over it, as it was never part of BD proper.l

[Anonymous No.9180382]

>>9180325
I genuinely don't even get this "real gore" bullshit. Oh no, it turned out that the horrifying violence you wanted in your game was based on real violence? Oh those 50 pixels are actually 50 pixels of a massively downscaled picture of a dude's head that got blown open, made to look like a dude's head that got blown open in a video game? Perish the fucking thought. It just reeks of moral standards being summoned from nowhere to fuck with someone. Mark is a jackass and his mod is shit because it's coded like shit and balanced like shit, but half the things people use against him are nonsense.

[Anonymous No.9180383]

>>9180372
I think by then it sort of expanded out to any mod he does is bad because bad man made it (though some have been forgotten like Brutal Heretic/Hexen).

[Anonymous No.9180389]

>>9180348
>I think the former is probably legit, I remember Adrian saying something about shit like that in an interview somewhere.
Afaik it's not known and hasn't been said. The rumor is they're digitized photos, but the winkles don't match up with any picture I've seen of Mussolini. The other human corpses are supposedly gi joes broken and posed, and they match stylistically with the upside down hanged dude. And I had a GI Joe from the era and it does look plausible. But again I don't think it's ever been said explicitly.
I actually had a rare chance to ask Kevin Cloud if he remembers how they were done and he said no. But he's also not the one who would've been doing that specific work.

[Anonymous No.9180392]

>>9180382
Its a bit distasteful. I would be pissed if it were my family you were putting into your edgelord mod.
For anyone else, yeah, you probably wouldn't even notice.

[Anonymous No.9180404]

>>9180392
>I would be pissed if it were my family you were putting into your edgelord mod
It's not only literally just pictures, it's pictures that have been crushed so small that you can't make out any details besides what they're vaguely supposed to be. I genuinely don't understand why anyone would care. Nobody would even know if he did do it, that's why there's still such a debate about it to this day. I suppose a more neurotic person would care because they "know" it's a picture of X or Y, but then we have to get into the whole "How does one draw gore anyway?" thing which often boils down to "Collection of pixels from photograph bad, same collection of pixels but hand drawn good" which is retarded.

[Anonymous No.9180407]

>>9180392
i mean how would one even know in the first place?
it's not like mark himself ever stated it
if anything, whoever started the rumor should have had people saying "do you watch gore videos?"
it's like accusing someone of using an image based off a porn doujin with shit like guro and loli as an icon and it's like: if you know exactly where it comes from and the person with the icon doesn't, who's the odd one out?

[Anonymous No.9180419]

>>9179747
>There's no way we'd get something out in time for it
Yeah, that would be a bummer. However, I think that's worth it in this case. I know that this might be an oversimplification and don't mean it in bad way, but MALICE seems more important to me in a sense that its a full-on total conversion with next to no popularity. While Zerstörer is "just" another Quake episode that (probably) has a good chance of getting into re-release via add-ons.
And I haven't played either of them, so that's me talking out of my ass.
>>9180012
>>9180019
Great job, anon.
>>9180317
>This is real
I assumed that this version is the one people get on Microsoft Store & Game Pass, but I guess they decided to throw it in as a "bonus" to Steam users.
https://steamdb.info/app/1898710/

[Anonymous No.9180435]

>>9180382
This, it's really disingenuous and just retarded to make crap up or nitpick weird stuff till the truth is distorted to fuck when the stuff he's actually done or said should still stand.
>>9180407
I know the ones that accused Mark of being the one who drew vanilla fucking Doom sprites was a Tumblr post that got passed all over the fucking place and was only retroactively fixed when they got shat on by a few people for it.

[Anonymous No.9180493]

Is there a version of Doom 64 weapons with the Unmaker disabled?

[Anonymous No.9180506]

I wanted to make a Doom starter pack for my friends and I realized it's fucking 1.5 GB jesus modern wads are big I didn't even include that many

[Anonymous No.9180547]

>>9180506
>Make Doom "Starter" pack
>include any and all cacoward entries since their inception
>starter pack
I don't think you understand what a "starter" pack entails.

[Anonymous No.9180552]

>>9180547
>I didn't even include that many
The bulk of it was Reelism and Reelism 2 (250MB total), Golden Souls 2 (200MB), Ancient Aliens (150MB) and Brutal Doom (100MB)

[Anonymous No.9180556]

>>9180552
why both Reelisms?

[Anonymous No.9180557]

>>9180552
Wait, are you making a "Doom" starter pack or GZDoom starter pack?

[ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs No.9180559]

>>9179764
Whether or not we cut out the old maps I'm going to leave up to a vote. You can certainly do whatever you want with your rune though.
>>9180419
>Yeah, that would be a bummer. However, I think that's worth it in this case.
Well, it would be if MALICE were winning the poll...
Not that I'm too upset by it, I just thought something different would be neat.
>And I haven't played either of them
dawg...
https://www.moddb.com/mods/malice-for-quake-patched-with-bug-fixes-and-soundtrack/downloads/na195010
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/zer.html
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/zer11.html

[Anonymous No.9180561]

>>9180557
Most of the Vanilla/Boom wads are pretty small, I just listed the biggest ones. I included both DSDA-Doom and GZDoom and separated the PWADs based on whether to use DSDA-Doom or GZDoom

[Anonymous No.9180563]

>>9180556
>why both Reelisms?
They're different

[Anonymous No.9180584]

>>9180506
Lot of mp3s, .oggs and uncompressed .pngs.

[Anonymous No.9180589]

>>9180556
>>9180563
The second one is good but it feels like in a way it's behind the original.

[Anonymous No.9180614]

Alright, so I guess I'm going to do either remake the TITLEMAP with a magic billboard thingy, or upload a version with and without the TITLEMAP, or possibly do both of those anyway. I'm kinda feeling a bit dumb considering that uploading two versions didn't occur to me.

[Anonymous No.9180684]

After beating Ultimate Doom once and then Doom II twice, I hopped into Ancient Aliens as my first megawad playthrough. It's a lot harder than Doom II but I love how fast and flowy it is so far, there's a lot less breaks in the action and all the maps so far have neat concepts, so far Bad Medicine Men is the standout (I'm on Map 7 right now). Ammo is also a fucking way huger concern than the original games, I always run out and it seems like the Berserk pack is made greater use of.

[Anonymous No.9180687]

>>9180684
I would have suggested a playthrough of Plutonia before jumping into a skillsaw wad, but I'm glad you're having fun anyway.

[Anonymous No.9180698]

>>9180325
>or having the word "nigger" in a text about the plasma rifle

It's also in EDay at the bottom of BOTINFO.

[Anonymous No.9180704]

You just gotta love how americans have no problems with walls and walls full of swastikas, yet completely flip their shit at a single mention of a word.

[Anonymous No.9180713]

>>9180705
This, stop making false equivalencies to draw out flamewars ITT.

[Anonymous No.9180726]

>>9180325
>>9180698
Source or are you just trying to stir a shit?

[Anonymous No.9180730]

>>9174764
the camera bob when tired, camera bob when shooting, camera bob when burning, camera bob when reloading, and enemies reviving from green magic and imps, all kind of ruin it.

[Anonymous No.9180765]

>>9180325
>it's weird because there was also a rumor of id themselves basing hanged corpse sprites over pics of mussolini and his mistress
This rumor is relatively new. It's also not true, because the details doesn't match much to any known photo. The one detail which does kind of match is how the pants sag, but that's also basically how pants sag on anyone who's hung up upside down like that, that's gravity.
The sort of photorealistic lighting/sheen to that set of sprites suggests that it could be something they digitized, and there's some some mention in internal material which describes them as GIs. Possibly this could be short-hand for G.I Joe's, and thus these are action figures, which would line up with the B-movie style graphics sourcing they did, as well as their use of toys for props.

That's not to say that's hard evidence those are action figures, but I feel that it's a better piece of evidence than "It kind of looks vaguely the same as this photo."

>plus, if mark did based sprites over real corpses, he'd do that on his own, which is not the same as naughty dog or neatherrealm forcing people to look at liveleak videos
True. I feel that shit is kind of fucked, at least if Mark did it, or looking at early Resident Evil, which supposedly either used archive photos or forensic photos for reference, or outright as a source for visuals, that's on their own volition.

>in a way, it's funny how even ed shittalked mark when they could have also seen him as "based" but i guess it was a pre-2014 era
ED is about documenting drama, and that stuff is drama. I think much of the drama is people coming up with more reasons to hate Mark though, because he was really an obnoxious and unapologetic asshole back then and got on lots of people's nerves.
I guess it's a bit like when DW mods started desperately grasping for straws to get rid of Tormentor because they thought he was annoying, though Torm is not even a fraction as edgy as Mark at his worst.

[Anonymous No.9180770]

Super late on screenshot saturday here but better that then never. Did you know that PLAYPAL has 14 distinct copies of the same Doom palette for different levels of pain, item pickup flashing, and the radiation suit green tint? Did you know that you can set these different copies to be whatever you want? I got a cool idea for some puzzles involving instadeath floors and taking some serious drugs to astral-project your way through them.

[Anonymous No.9180774]

>>9180770
Sounds like a great way to prank epileptics.

[Anonymous No.9180779]

>>9180770
Now this is fucking GNARLY

[Anonymous No.9180782]

>>9180726
That's really old, and not really something which is considered too spicy around these parts.
The short is that the Plasma Rifle has a special damage type that makes a special death sequence for monsters when killed with it, turning them into smoldering carbonized chunks, and in the code for the Plasma Rifle Mark left a //comment along the lines of "This will turn a white man into a nigger in seconds." or something to that effect. You can probably go find it if you dig up an old enough version of BD to see it for yourself.

Naturally, someone on ZDF (probably someone who isn't black) got extremely offended by that. Of Mark's shitty things though, Committing A Heckin' Racism isn't very significant next to being kind of a douche, like telling a suicidal dude how to kill himself. That last one IMO is the worst thing he did, potentially he intended to shock and make the guy think twice, or something like that (because he probably isn't a psychopath), but being a known edgy oaf, it's kind of hard for people to read it differently.

[Anonymous No.9180789]

>>9180782
>someone on ZDF
That someone would be Doomguy's voice actor in BD, and he didn't want his name on a project that uses nigger in it because it would hinder his chances at being hired for any other projects.
Sounds reasonable to me imo.

[Anonymous No.9180801]

>>9180789
Ah, right, you're jogging my memory now. Yeah, that'd be kinda fair, though it'd probably have been smoother to handle in DMs.

[Anonymous No.9180804]

>>9180801
>though it'd probably have been smoother to handle in DMs.
I agree with you there, dragging shit out in public is just ugly in most cases.

[Anonymous No.9180805]

>>9180782
>like telling a suicidal dude how to kill himself.
Didn't the other guy later say they knew it was a joke (albeit a shit one) and they didn't even take it seriously?

[Anonymous No.9180809]

>>9180805
I think so, but I think also that other people were already grabbing their pitchforks by that point. As I said, they were probably looking for excuses to get rid of him.

[Anonymous No.9180813]

what sector lighting do you guys like to use?

[Anonymous No.9180814]

>>9180782
This is the exact quote from 16b.

[Anonymous No.9180815]

>Plutonia has 8x as many Arch-Viles as Doom II

[Anonymous No.9180817]

>>9180813
My style of sector lighting is "just make it varied enough so it doesn't look monotonous" but I never do anything complex with it. I fucking hate lighting the most out of any process in mapping.

[Anonymous No.9180825]

>>9180814
I'm sure there was something similar that should have caused fuss in v19 or v20 but I'll be fucked if I remember what.

I think those sorts stopped digging through mods until that animal crossing companion mod having a blowjob mode made people go nuts again.

[Anonymous No.9180854]

>>9180726

[Anonymous No.9180926]

>>9180815
yeah, its based.

[Anonymous No.9180929]

>>9180825
>that animal crossing companion mod having a blowjob

[Anonymous No.9180968]

>>9180552
That's not a starter pack, that's going full retard.

[Anonymous No.9180980]

>>9180929
It's just an animation of what looks like Isabelle from Animal Crossing giving the player a blowjob. It's not even accessible in the actual mod, you have to look in SLADE to find it.

[Anonymous No.9180993]

someone make a new thread

[Anonymous No.9180996]

>>9180684
If you run out of ammo a lot you can always carry over guns and ammo from previous levels instead of resetting to pistol
speedruns don't do that but map makers do expect casual players to run that way, what with ancient aliens giving you 2 medkits in every exit room to heal up for the next level

[Anonymous No.9181013]

>>9180993
Baking bread now

[Anonymous No.9181018]

NEW THREAD
>>9181016
>>9181016
>>9181016

[Anonymous No.9181583]

>>9180770
That's almost what I did for Ad Mortem secret exit, but with just radiation suit and lava. The idea to make it drugs and trippy pallettes sounds really fun
Also, if you want to fuck around with trippy visuals and pallettes in boom ports you should check out TRANMAPS, esselfortium made a guide on it I think