/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9153167]

What are your thoughts on remastering efforts by fans/modders?

[Anonymous No.9153170]

this looks great

[Anonymous No.9153187]

It's hit or miss. Your pic is a big miss. That looks much worse than the original.

[Anonymous No.9153195]

>>9153187
What are some "hit" examples?

[Anonymous No.9153252]

>>9153167
i usually don't use unofficial content, however fan remasters are usually better/more faithful than official ones these days.
maybe i'll try Deus EX: Revision one of these days.

[Anonymous No.9153276]

>>9153252
>maybe i'll try Deus EX: Revision one of these days.
It sucks.

[Anonymous No.9153279]

>>9153167
No fan has ever created anything good

[Anonymous No.9153292]

>>9153167
I don't really see the point. Why not use one's skills for something new or valuable?

[Anonymous No.9153335]

>>9153276
aw shit. why?

[Anonymous No.9153368]

>>9153167
Mostly the odd realization that hat calling a fan project a "remaster" isn't particularly more stupid than the already normalized usage of the buzzword.

[Anonymous No.9153372]

>>9153335
Way too many artistic liberties. I highly recommend GMDX, though.

[Anonymous No.9153373]

Oh man the earlier fan remastera for Deus Ex and System Shock 2 were hilariously bad

[Anonymous No.9153381]

>>9153279
Sadly, this. If they actually had the passion and drive they would get a real job in the industry or be noticed and hired. Using someone else's work that they sacrificed themselves for and a lot of money was used for just to make some 'revision' or pirated version or bad translation of is never going to be good. People don't understand how hard the real people actually work and what they did to get where they are.

[Anonymous No.9153457]

>>9153372
what a shame.
>GDMX
looks interesting

[Anonymous No.9153463]

>>9153381
Yea dude its 2022, I think we all have a pretty clear picture how the videogame industry works, how it is today and how it used to be

[Anonymous No.9153468]

>>9153381
Counter Strike is bigger than half life

[Anonymous No.9153646]

>>9153381
Tons of modders/mappers have gotten jobs in the industry you buffoon. Even if they didn't who cares, why the fuck would you want to work on modern video games?

[Anonymous No.9153648]

>>9153195
this one was fairly good
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nameless_Mod

[Anonymous No.9153706]

>>9153648
I used to play gmod TTT with some guy who voice acted in that mod

[Anonymous No.9153894]

>>9153648
But that's an standalone game almost, hardly a "remaster"/upgrade

[Anonymous No.9154804]

Deus Ex is one of the worst instances of fan makeovers I've ever seen, it's basically the definitive example for this pic each time. Its low-poly models look awful with hires textures. Its animations look awful with upgraded models. Attempting it was a fool's errand from the start.

[Anonymous No.9154813]

people go over the top with morrowind graphics mods but it can look really nice with MGXE while still maintaining the vanilla look

[Anonymous No.9154868]

>>9153167
i think remasters/remakes in general fall into the category of "art is subjective" but too many people (here especially) put their nostalgia on a golden pedestal so regardless of the actual quality they will never live up to whatever expectations you had when you first played the original while at the same time most don't see the value in a remake or remaster if the original exist ignoring things that could prevent you from playing the game like hardware compatibility.

>>9153381
>>9153279
>"If they actually had the passion and drive they would get a real job in the industry or be noticed and hired."
>valves 3 biggest multiplayer games were originally mods for quake, half life & warcraft 3
>bethesda & 3D realms actually hires modders in the community
are you high or retarded?

[Anonymous No.9154889]

>>9153167
There has never been a good fan remaster, decompilation, romhack, bugfix, patch, mod, anything. Fanshite is dogshite

[Anonymous No.9154890]

>>9154889
Most of the older games are still playable because of the fans

[Anonymous No.9154897]

>>9154889
Go play Hourai High without a basic encounter reducer made by a fan, see how bored you become with being enormously overleveled and annoyed every 2 steps.

[Anonymous No.9155083]

I like open source engine reimplementations, like OpenMW or Arx Libertatis

[Anonymous No.9155520]

>>9153167
I've never understood why old/bad graphics bother people so much. Most remasters end up like the pic anon posted here >>9154804. They just look clunky and stupid. I don't think old graphics look bad, that's just how the game was intended to look at that time. And even though the graphics are old they can still look good, like in Gungrave. "Old" doesn't necessarily mean "Ugly".

[Anonymous No.9155591]

>>9155520
People who weren't of double digit age by the year 2000 have a special aversion to 5th gen graphics.

[Anonymous No.9155693]

The only one I like is the RE4 HD Project, which is phenomenal.

[Anonymous No.9155704]

>>9153167
>"""HD"""" texture pack

usually code word for shit, it's the equivalent of that Super Mario unreal engine video.

[Anonymous No.9155729]

I'm only interested in stuff like new areas/missions, not what are essentially graphical updates.

[Anonymous No.9155732]

>>9155693
It's very impressive considering what has been achieved but it still looks goofy to have these simple environments with super sharp and highly detailed textures. The geometry was just not designed for that. You need a much higher poly count, much more objects on screen, better materials and the shaders to go with it. Ultimately all these projects are a fool's errand because everything needs to come together as a coherent package from the game's conception.

[Anonymous No.9156775]

>>9155520
I think some games remaster better than others. RE4 has good enough models that its fan retexture project has been great to it, unlike what happened with Deus Ex's. I can't think of many of those positive examples however. Not so much a rule as a probability that they won't look good.

[Anonymous No.9156802]

Deus Ex Game of the Year edition multiplayer was a lot of fun.

GMDX (give me deus ex) is the best mod to play with.

[Anonymous No.9157149]

>>9153276
>>9153372
>>9153252
Never play Revision first. Take it as its own thing.

[Anonymous No.9157154]

>>9157149
Besides, Malkavian Mod is where it's at. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mmd3hMwivI

[Anonymous No.9157191]

>>9153167
for me, it's Aquinas Protocol

[Anonymous No.9157202]

>>9157191
chunky little guy

[Anonymous No.9159250]

>>9157191
SCANNING AREA

[Anonymous No.9159313]

>>9154868
Using a game engine and assets as a base to create a new game is not the same thing as fucking with, tweaking, or otherwise attempting to improve or add to something that is already a finished product

[Anonymous No.9159324]

>>9153167
>"remaster"
>"remake"
>"reboot"
>"texture mod"
>"hd pack"
all of these should literally hang themselves in a closet