/CRT/ General

[Anonymous No.9130082]

Extreme Close Up Edition

[Anonymous No.9130097]

>>9130082
It's nice to see close ups that aren't just ugly thick scanline PVM pictures

[Anonymous No.9130098]

looks like shit
Shit
SHIIIT

[Anonymous No.9130103]

>>9130098
Post yours, faggot

[Anonymous No.9130104]

>>9130098
Looks really good, slot mask even

[Anonymous No.9130113]

>>9130082
God, Mega Man X4 blew my fucking mind as a kid. I would turn on the game sometimes just to hear the soundtrack. God bless you capcom.

https://youtu.be/In8sUYVkvNE
https://youtu.be/WAwnAx3TGBY
https://youtu.be/_p3ZspXJHIk
https://youtu.be/x8mG5mpHMKA

[Anonymous No.9130116]

I recently got a brand new, in box VGA monitor for 20 bucks off of eBay. It's gorgeous. Had to dial in the colors just right, but goddamn I love this thing. It's on my 17 inches, whereas my last one was 20, but this one's picture is pristine.

[Anonymous No.9130118]

[Anonymous No.9130128]

>>9130116
>VGA monitor for 20 bucks off of eBay
I'm kind of surprised online stores like eBay are starting to sell bulky monitors and CRTs now. They obviously don't sell huge sets due to shipping cost, but I picked up a small, pristine quality CRT from a seller just for the price of shipping. Was immaculately packed too, so it arrived undamaged. Kind of neat.

[Anonymous No.9130147]

Between the song in the opening movie, and the main menu theme, this game's soundtrack is already making me jump around.

[Anonymous No.9130150]

>>9130082
Might I inquire as to what set is being photographed here?

[Anonymous No.9130165]

>>9130150
Magnavox Smart Series. Yes, those televisions from the early 2000s that were prone to failure. At least their picture quality was decent considering their price.

[Anonymous No.9130170]

>>9130097
>this jealous over PVMs
Why do you always jump into threads and start shit up like this?

[Anonymous No.9130206]

>>9130170
Why would anyone be jealous of PVMs?
I sold mine years ago.

[Anonymous No.9130208]

[Anonymous No.9130210]

>>9130170
I didn't see any negativity or anything else to imply anon was jealous or malicious, literally just a post that commented it's nice to see something else than a PVM.
Why are you faggots always projecting so hard?

[Anonymous No.9130232]

I think I'm getting the hang of taking closeups.

[Anonymous No.9130236]

>>9130232
Based, looking good anon

[Anonymous No.9130251]

>>9130232
Closeups are actually easy to show
It’s when you view the whole image that it becomes hard to take a picture of

[Anonymous No.9130264]

>>9130251
>it's easy
show me yours

[Anonymous No.9130278]

This wouldn't have happened if it were a CRT

[Anonymous No.9130281]

>>9130278
True, instead the cat kills the CRT by sleeping on it constantly

[Anonymous No.9130298]

How many CRTs you got? TVs, monitors, oscilloscopes, whatever. Pls submit an answer even if it's 0, trying to make a histogram:
https://strawpoll.com/polls/PKglzN6eRyp

[Anonymous No.9130301]

For the RGBtrannies, have some Sonic waterfall

[Anonymous No.9130303]

>>9130301
>not using RGB with filters to get the best of both worlds
NGMI

[Anonymous No.9130318]

>>9130301
Wider shot
>>9130303
Show me

[Anonymous No.9130325]

I realize I may be getting in over my head here, but I kind of want to get a VCR so I can play some of my old anime tapes from the 90s. It's been such a long time since I've seen a VCR playing on a CRT, I kind of forget what it's like.

[Anonymous No.9130330]

>>9130318
>Show me
Too lazy to take a picture myself, here's one I found on the /vr/ archives, picture itself is badly taken though

[Anonymous No.9130332]

whats a good lcd filter to use on my crt?

[Anonymous No.9130340]

>>9130332
Just go thru the filters under Handheld in RetroArch until you find one that you like
Depends too much on the specific CRT to recommend a general one

[Anonymous No.9130349]

>>9130330
Looks good to me.

[Anonymous No.9130351]

>>9130349
Looks a little blurry and out of focus IMO
Filter itself looks good

[Anonymous No.9130410]

>>9130330
Looks good, ngl.
Here's mine.

[Anonymous No.9130424]

>>9130410
wii with rgb out and a composite filter?

[Anonymous No.9130434]

>>9130424
What else are you going to use for emulation that has native 240p RGB out?

[Anonymous No.9130438]

>>9130434
I use DP to VGA adapter with VGA to SCART on my PC with RA.

[Anonymous No.9130463]

More closeups?

[Anonymous No.9130484]

>>9130082
CRT faggotry is the bane of /vr/.

[Anonymous No.9130490]

>>9130484
Fuck off and go play something instead of shitposting

[Anonymous No.9130502]

>>9130490
I legitimately hope you die in a house fire you fat retarded homosexual. CRTs have nothing to do with video games and the thought that your precious eye cancer boxes are fading away with each passing day makes me rock hard.

[Anonymous No.9130512]

>>9130502
Seethe more, zoomie tranny fuck.

[Anonymous No.9130521]

>>9130512
>zoomie tranny fuck
says the genetic dead end who consumes himself with decaying, inferior technology from 20 years ago lol

[Anonymous No.9130531]

>>9130521
Good job admitting you're just a braindead consumer zoomer little bitch. Go back.

[Anonymous No.9130534]

>>9130434
PS2 works too, it outputs proper 240p in emulators. I don't know how accurate the emulation is, but I remember playing Hyperstone Heist and the Sailor Moon MD beat em up without any problems.

[Anonymous No.9130537]

Some NES!

[Anonymous No.9130540]

>>9130534
True, emulation will be worse though

[Anonymous No.9130550]

>>9130531
>braindead
that's the one using an eye cancer box
>consumer
that's the one using 'original hardware' instead of emulating everything on a modern display
>zoomer
that's the one having a meltdown over his toys, i.e. you

[Anonymous No.9130586]

>>9130550
>eye cancer box
That's funny. Blue light from modern displays are way more damaging to the cornea than CRTs ever were.
>emulating everything on a modern display
You're the one buying new shit. I just play on old displays, consumer.
>having a meltdown over his toys
What are you even saying? You're the one that came into this thread sperging out about people playing on old displays.

Regardless, I play on my PC/TV with RA and shaders too, dipwad. So fuck off already.

[Anonymous No.9130596]

>>9130521
I'm trying to imagine the kind of person that gets legitimately upset over people using crt televisions and I can't think of any. It's a strange thing to passionately hate. It's like if I hated vinyl record players with a passion. What would my motive even be?

[Anonymous No.9130598]

>>9130550
>>9130586
Are you samefagging or something? Nobody would bother arguing like this unless they just want to pretend and derail the thread.

Remember to ignore and report shitposters like the guys above.

[Anonymous No.9130610]

>>9130586
>multiple displays
>plushies
>bing bing wahoo shit
>rgb keyboard
>validating himself online
holy fucking manbaby, just end it dude

[Anonymous No.9130616]

>>9130586
GROOVIN' MAGIC

[Anonymous No.9130618]

>>9130610
You got me, I'll go kill myself tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.9130631]

>>9130618
the only logical choice you've ever made

[Anonymous No.9130635]

Don King Kong

[Anonymous No.9130654]

>>9130635
every time i see this level it reminds me of a time i was staying at a hotel in AC and played DKC on a laptop at night. my one friend fell asleep drunk early so we put a phone with gay porn sounds playing on it right up next to his ear all night and stacked trash on him. he woke up the next day and said it was the best sleep he had ever had.

[Anonymous No.9130808]

>>9130424
>>9130434
ntsc wiis don't do rgb out natively. is it component, modded, a pal set or what?

[Anonymous No.9130832]

>>9130303
literally retarded

[Anonymous No.9130849]

>>9130484
>>9130502
>>9130550
>>9130610
find a hobby loser

[Anonymous No.9130857]

>>9130808
>ntsc wiis don't do rgb out natively.
They do, the hardware is the same. Also NTSC and PAL have nothing to do with RGB. You can use a Wii to RGB SCART cable with a NTSC Wii just like you can a PAL region one.

[Anonymous No.9130961]

>>9130596
they're just trolling

[Anonymous No.9130968]

>>9130961
Not so sure, when you have two options, it's usually the simpler one as far as odd's go.
In this case, trolling vs actual dumbass, the dumbass exploration is the simpler one.

[Anonymous No.9131156]

Do you niggers even play games or do you just masturbate while pressing your face against the screen?

[Anonymous No.9131159]

>>9131156
Don't be mean!

[Anonymous No.9131160]

>>9131159
I'm sorry. I didn't know there were attractive young girls in this thread.

[Anonymous No.9131161]

>>9131156
>doesn't enter literally any other thread on the board to discuss games
>enters the one thread focused on displays and wonders why people are talking about displays
Summerfags really are getting stupider every year.

[Anonymous No.9131165]

>>9131161
found the masturbator

[Anonymous No.9131227]

>>9131156
See >>9130490

[Anonymous No.9131304]

>>9130857
according to my quick research, you have to hack an ntsc wii for it to output rgb but it's possible

[Anonymous No.9131321]

>>9131304
Hack what? I used one imported from a friend from Canada and it just worked like my PAL Wii for RGB.
Maybe jailbreak played a role? Wouldn't think so. Then again I'd expect everyone to be using a jailbroken Wii anyways, that's not an issue.

Link to what you found?

[Anonymous No.9131845]

Bumpin with a silly picture I took for another thread.

[Anonymous No.9131914]

[Anonymous No.9131983]

>>9131845
What is that media? Why does my brain recognise it?

[Anonymous No.9131987]

>>9131983
Computer Chronicles. That's Gary Kildall.

[Anonymous No.9132129]

>>9131987
Thanks for the reply, though I've never heard of it. Brain just wants to torment me i guess.

[Anonymous No.9132131]

>>9132129
Maybe you saw it once, somewhere, in the corner of your eye.

https://archive.org/details/Computer_Chronicles

[Anonymous No.9132132]

>>9132129
>>9132131
Also Gary Kildall was a pretty big and well known figure. Might have heard and seen a picture of him before that your brain recalls.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Kildall

[Anonymous No.9132136]

Who here posted this?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/354119288142

[Anonymous No.9132138]

>>9132136
Top kek. Do you recognize the CRT from these threads?

[Anonymous No.9132149]

>>9131845
What tranny pride flag is that?

[Anonymous No.9132163]

>>9132149
South fenno-mongolian pride.

[Anonymous No.9132315]

>>9132138
Nope, I just was randomly looking at ebay since >>9130116 mentioned getting a monitor from there that wasn't broken on arrival. Then I just was wondering what this TV was and just flipped through the pictures and saw the pic. Has that TV been mentioned on here before?

[Anonymous No.9132658]

>>9130082
can I emulate on my pc and connect it to a crt monitor/tv is that a good idea

[Anonymous No.9132678]

>>9130301
I swear this waterfall has to do something with the framerate or the motion.
I was playing Sonic 1 on Kega Fusion on my shit laptop that overheats easily from any game and as I was passing by(and sometimes the framerate would drop) and the motion went into a blur it somehow made the waterfall smooth for whatever reason, and I was only using 100% scanlines on Kega Fusion no other filter.
Same thing happened with the Marble Zone thingies.

[Anonymous No.9132694]

>>9130098
https://youtu.be/wxTBopL6fIQ

[Anonymous No.9132714]

[Anonymous No.9132791]

>>9130208
Kill yourself rannigger

[Anonymous No.9132907]

>>9132678
Yeah, your shit screen acted as a motion blur filter

[Anonymous No.9132910]

>>9132658
Yeah, there's many methods to do so. Best way to emulate.

[Anonymous No.9132974]

>>9131845
Just saw your picture in the other thread. What is that TV?

[Anonymous No.9133114]

>>9132974
Not a TV, just a monitor. Were used with BTX terminals but this one doesn't have the terminal board, just the guts for the monitor.
Has internal RGB+Y/C+composite input and also a external SCART connector that accepts the same, can be switched between them with a small toggle switch on the back. Might throw a Pi in there as a Chromecast client for the internal RGB connector.

It's pretty sharp for a 9 inch color CRT from the time, around 300 TVL as far as I can tell, slot mask.

[Anonymous No.9133131]

>>9131321
https://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=av:wii_multi_av_pinout
https://www.retrorgb.com/wiirgbvscomponent.html
i did some more research. NTSC wiis won't natively output RGB (they can do component which is pretty damn close). but if you can hack the wii to display a PAL video mode, it will change the way the pins are used and then can output RGB. for emulation purposes you want 60Hz though, so you can use PAL60 video mode.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL#PAL_60
this has the advantage of setting the wii to output RGB at a framerate suitable for emulation. now, the color is still different than NTSC, but this doesn't apply to RGB. there are a couple of ways to set an ntsc to output PAL60, but all of them require hacking, or jailbreaking, or softmodding, or whatever you might call it. there's AnyRegion Changer, which sets the video mode for the console,
https://wiibrew.org/wiki/AnyRegion_Changer
there's USB Loader GX which also has a setting for PAL60,
https://wii.guide/usbloadergx.html
and i can't confirm this, but mednafen might be able to too.
https://wiibrew.org/wiki/WiiMednafen
now, if you're going to be emulating on a wii, then it should be no problem because your wii is already hacked (unless you're using virtual console or something). and again, NTSC wiis do component out which is very close, practically indistinguishable.

[Anonymous No.9133138]

>>9133131
Ah okay, so switching to PAL60 from NTSC, even though itself entirely unrelated to RGB, also enables the RGB 60Hz output? Thanks for the research.

[Anonymous No.9133145]

>>9133138
pretty much, yeah

[Anonymous No.9133171]

>>9130082
here is mine

[Anonymous No.9133172]

>>9133171
another one

[Anonymous No.9133173]

give tut a kiss

[Anonymous No.9133182]

>free crt
>previous owner switched it to 16:9 mode
>no more remote
>universal remotes can't change it either

So what should I do?
So far my only option is to keep trying different universal remotes untill one can change that.

[Anonymous No.9133183]

>>9133182
CRT's model number? Just find an OEM replacement remote.

[Anonymous No.9133190]

>>9133182
are you using SCART?

[Anonymous No.9133229]

Found an ad in my local newspaper for a 27 inch JVC, 19 inch Sylvania, 13 inch GE, 13 inch Broksonic (?). Called the guy, he sounded old

[Anonymous No.9133264]

>>9130298
this poll's not displaying answers correctly, please answer this one instead
https://poal.me/h7etmg

[Anonymous No.9133331]

>>9133183
It's small cheap Lifetec 3739 but perfect for my desk
>>9133190
Yes I am, is that relevant?

[Anonymous No.9133332]

>>9133182
Do you have SCART? There's a sense pin that can switch between 4:3 and 16:9 by applying either 5V or 12V.

[Anonymous No.9133429]

>>9133332
Ah so that's why the other anon asked about scart, I'll check the pinout in detail later, thanks

[Anonymous No.9133502]

>>9133229
God bless the Greatest Generation. JVC L’Art AV-27F802
This is considered one of the best, right?

[Anonymous No.9133519]

>>9133331
Yeah, the reason it’s coming out at forced 16:9 is because of one of the pins in SCART, I think pin 8
5v is 16:9 and 10v is 4:3 I think

[Anonymous No.9133521]

[Anonymous No.9133523]

>>9133521
What display?
Looks good.

[Anonymous No.9133534]

>>9133523
JVC D-Series AV-32D503

[Anonymous No.9133542]

>>9133534
I love it.
Are you lowering the screen brightness or anything?

[Anonymous No.9133546]

>>9133534
Based world 1 and done pseudo mario world semi-enjoyer.

[Anonymous No.9133558]

I got a couple of PVMemes too before society collapsed
>>9133542
I just fiddle around with the test suite until things are good enough for my tastes. I try to keep brightness under 50 in the hopes it will increase the lifespan
>>9133546
my save battery died :(

[Anonymous No.9133559]

>>9133546
Yoshi's Island is the worst area in the game.
Donut Plains and Vanilla Dome are GOAT.

[Anonymous No.9133563]

>>9133558
>I try to keep brightness under 50 in the hopes it will increase the lifespan
Ah okay, it looked a little dim compared to my display at 100% brightness.

[Anonymous No.9133572]

and of course the little babby was damaged during shipping, at least it was only 40 bucks total

[Anonymous No.9133698]

>linus made another video on CRTs
i hope you already have your crts, they arent going to get any cheaper with him pouring fuel into the retro fad fire

[Anonymous No.9133718]

>>9133698
Haven't seen much change in the European market over the years with DF and LTT videos coming out.
Most are still free or pennies, even for the good stuff, guess boomers don't really care.

[Anonymous No.9133725]

>>9133572
Did you get the money back?

[Anonymous No.9133739]

>>9133718
>smear filter on most games shown

[Anonymous No.9133750]

>>9133718
everything upscaled to 1080i, lmao

[Anonymous No.9133751]

>>9133739
Uh?

[Anonymous No.9133756]

>>9133750
I haven't seen the newest video, what is it about?

[Anonymous No.9133762]

>>9133502
Just got it set up, everything’s great except for two things
1. There’s a strong ripple effect when the image is scrolling vertically or horizontally. It’s like it’s breathing and has to warp a lot
2. The audio goes up to 50, but it’s loud at like 10 and there’s a very loud whine the higher I go, it’s like it’s overtuned

[Anonymous No.9133763]

>>9133756
the fag in their office shows off his 16:9 HD CRT and directly compares it to an OLED screen. everything from fourth to sixth gen upscaled to 1080i, some with the lookin good smoothing filter.

[Anonymous No.9133765]

>>9133698
I love the absolutely retarded reddit tied r/crt comments under the video

[Anonymous No.9133769]

>>9133763
It's not like either them or their audience actually cares or understands any of that
For them it's just making money with easy clickbait, for the audience it's the cool current thing to masturbate to

[Anonymous No.9133775]

Some guy is giving this away for next to nothing, but it has pink colouring, can it be fixed?

[Anonymous No.9133782]

>>9133698
>"games should be played on the display it was designed for"
>puts it on a 16:9 tv upscaled to 1080i
truly, the way it was intended
>>9133769
yes, but hes making his huge audience pay attention to the crt market and makes it seem like paying one or two grand on a mid range crt is the norm.

[Anonymous No.9133783]

>>9133725
yeah, seller just wrote it off and didn't ask for a return

[Anonymous No.9133785]

>>9133783
Ehhh, not a fan of NES being in anything better than composite.

[Anonymous No.9133786]

>>9133698
>>9133763
>>9133782
>>puts it on a 16:9 tv upscaled to 1080i
Nothing wrong with doing that for 6th gen though. Many games were widescreen and meant to be played on HD TVs.

[Anonymous No.9133794]

>>9133775
Looks like green channel is broken, can be anything from just the VGA cable being fucked, the connector or even the green gun, only one way to find out.

[Anonymous No.9133797]

>>9133782
>yes, but hes making his huge audience pay attention to the crt market and makes it seem like paying one or two grand on a mid range crt is the norm.
I got 3000 eur for my FW900 thanks to this video, even though it was almost entirely burned out from me using it for 15 years

[Anonymous No.9133813]

>>9133797
I meant the previous video with the FW900, didn't see the new one until just right now

[Anonymous No.9133945]

>>9133572
i wonder if some superglue would make it better

>>9133783
what do you have hooked up to it that's playing mario with what looks like rgb?

[Anonymous No.9133948]

>>9133945
>what do you have hooked up to it that's playing mario with what looks like rgb?
people here use everything from Wii's to their computers to emulate with CRTs

[Anonymous No.9134235]

>>9133945
>>9133948
it's an RGB modded AV Famicom connected with S Video

[Anonymous No.9134243]

>>9134235
Do you hate the NES or something?

[Anonymous No.9134253]

>>9130082

[Anonymous No.9134257]

>>9134253
A little too RGB-like for my taste.

[Anonymous No.9134259]

>>9130147
what game is that anon?

[Anonymous No.9134260]

>>9134253
>>9134257
Screen itself looks awesome, but I have to agree, to much jaggies.

[Anonymous No.9134327]

is it normal to have jitter? I need to be literally inches away from the screen to notice it, but if I stare at any given part it's going to move very slightly every few seconds

[Anonymous No.9134336]

>>9134327
What setup? Generally no

[Anonymous No.9134347]

>>9134336
I'm this guy >>9133502
shows up on ps1 over s-video and wii over component so far. Maybe a problematic capacitator?

[Anonymous No.9134375]

>>9134347
Don't think the CRT or capacitor in it that is causing that, that CRT should be fully analog without any digital framebuffers or scalers, so there's no way it can jitter since for jitter it would have to delay the frame, it can't do that, it can only show what the console gives it in real time

[Anonymous No.9134414]

>>9134375
>so there's no way it can jitter since for jitter it would have to delay the frame
What? I think that anon is simply saying that the image on his monitor is unstable.

[Anonymous No.9134426]

>>9134414
Oh like the image itself is jittering, I thought he was talking about frame jitter
Misread it, though it was jitter tuning movement of the graphics, thanks

Yeah that's most likely bad caps, I used to have my image shake randomly from time to time until I recapped it

[Anonymous No.9134443]

>>9133698
god i hate that fag, i hate americans and i hate america's consoomer culture
i will happily play my dirt cheap japanese releases of games on my telly and tell all hoarders and scalpers to kill themselves
>video opens with him saying RETRO GAMING IS REALLY TAKING OFF BUY NOW BEFORE PRICES INCREASE ANYMORE
kill yourself american grifter shill scum

[Anonymous No.9134450]

>>9134443
Linus is Canadian, you anti-American faggot.

[Anonymous No.9134452]

>>9134450
Same shit, unironically
Canadians are American too, all NA people are Americans

[Anonymous No.9134456]

>>9134452
Jesus not this retarded shit...

[Anonymous No.9134462]

>>9134456
Anon is right

[Anonymous No.9134498]

[Anonymous No.9134503]

>>9133698
>>9134443

His buddy CRT enthusiast in the video did do a good job of explaining to normies why we like a dead tech so much.

[Anonymous No.9134504]

>>9134503
did he go over how the screen is all static-ey when you turn it on for the first time after a few days because that's my favourite part of CRTs

[Anonymous No.9134526]

>>9134426
How easy is it to recap? I’m not good at soldering and wasn’t willing to mess with the yoke on my old one
There’s actually a really cool old man I know who still repairs crts, probably would cost me way too much but he’s running a good business

[Anonymous No.9134710]

Good old phillips with scart

[Anonymous No.9134712]

It really is crazy how vibrant games look on this tv. I feel stupid for having used my crappy old Magnavox for so long. Here's to hoping this one lasts a very long time.

[Anonymous No.9134730]

>>9134710
Looks faded or is it just the picture?

[Anonymous No.9134885]

Why are small CRTs shit on so much? Like what's the difference? A 14 inch CRT is going to look the same size from a meter away than a 32 inch is going to be from 2 meters away, specially if they are the same TVL anyways. The bigger CRT is just going to take up more space, generate more heat and have more convergence issues.
Really don't get it.

[Anonymous No.9134895]

>>9134885
Has it ever occured to you that people may like playing games while sitting comfortably on a sofa instead of hunching over their desk? I work many hours a day in front of a PC and I just want to lay my ass down and play some games without my back hurting after I finish working.

[Anonymous No.9134902]

>>9134885
Now THIS is what cope looks like. Must suck having a tiny crt.

[Anonymous No.9134905]

>>9134895
>>9134902
No need to get defensive, I never attacked big CRTs, I'm just asking scrolling thru the last couple /crt/ generals since I missed them, why smaller ones get attacked when people mention them.

[Anonymous No.9134915]

>>9134905
Cope harder small CRT fag. Small CRTs are a joke, anyone with a small CRT is a joke.

[Anonymous No.9134918]

>>9134915
I guess you were the anon who made those anti-small-CRT posts. Do you feel threatened by people enjoying different things?

[Anonymous No.9134921]

>>9133775
That looks like a textbook bad VGA cable.

[Anonymous No.9134924]

My trinitron is 13 inches and it's perfect for me. It's at just the right height, in my lounge chair I can lean back and relax forever.

[Anonymous No.9134927]

>>9134895
I have a 13 inch CRT and I just use it on the desk while leaning back on my overkill office chair. Sometimes I put it on my nightstand and play in bed too laying down, it has built in stereo speakers.

[Anonymous No.9134940]

>>9133718
>Haven't seen much change in the European market over the years with DF and LTT videos coming out.
Maybe in your country, locally, on eBay the prices are worse than in the US. Then you have UK jacking up the prices into ridiculous numbers.

[Anonymous No.9134952]

>>9134940
Considering I live in two different European countries that are pretty far apart and have several other friends in Europe in other countries who are into /vr/, I'd say mainland Europe is pretty good price wise, you can easily find good Trinitrons of any sizes, both TV and VGA CRTs for free or a couple dozen euros if you just open your local listenings.

Here's a random selection when specifically searching only for "Sony CRT" in Germany.

[Anonymous No.9134953]

>>9134710
nice shader faggot

[Anonymous No.9134958]

>>9134895
>>9134902
>being this jelly of tiny CRTs

[Anonymous No.9134969]

>>9134952
That's locally in Germany which is one of the best countries for 2nd hand in the EU, central Europe will always be good for deals.
In my country the retards learned about retro gaming and are putting garbage PC crts that can only do 1280x1024@60 Hz max for €300, really snotty types too, "I know what I have", many with broken plastic, dirty, yellowed, they think they found gold or something.

[Anonymous No.9134980]

>>9134969
Here's a nice KV-25X1E in Estonia as another example. It's harder to pick them out though since people just write them as "TV" in the local language and not the local equivalent of CRT like in Germany but in general there's more CRTs going around than in Germany in my experience, most are owned by grannies and in storage. Most people still used them as everyday or even only TVs a decade ago.
You can also definitely still find nicer PC CRTs like Dell P1110 for 30€ in Estonia too, for example. A deal I recently saw myself.

I also have a friend in Spain who constantly finds cheap or free high end CRTs. Not saying my viewpoint applies for whole of Europe but I seen a chunk of the market and that's what I comment on.

[Anonymous No.9134983]

>>9134969
>In my country the retards learned about retro gaming and are putting garbage PC crts that can only do 1280x1024@60 Hz max for €300, really snotty types too, "I know what I have", many with broken plastic, dirty, yellowed, they think they found gold or something.
Every place has wannabe opportunists like that. If your local listings seem sparse, put up a ad/listing yourself that you're looking, I can guarantee you'll find something nice offered to you for free or pennies in a week or two.

[Anonymous No.9135008]

>>9134921
Meaning I just need to replace the cable?

[Anonymous No.9135020]

>>9135008
Maybe. Odds are that it might be just that.

[Anonymous No.9135021]

>>9134905
Sorry, didn't mean to stir shit up or anything (unlike some other anons here). I'm just a bit ill at the moment and don't exactly pay attention to mincing my own words.
What I wanted to say is that everyone has their own preferences. I'd always pick a big ass display over a smaller one if it meant having a more comfortable setup, be it a flat modern one or a CRT. I get that some people like gaming on PC monitors, but for me sitting in front of a big TV is the definitive experience.

[Anonymous No.9135027]

>>9134980
Here in Poland the market is still in a great state, you can find a shitton of good CRTs for under 20€. PC monitors are much less common than TVs, but still pop up all the time.
Also worth noting that the most popular marketplace site here divides TVs into OLEDs, LCDs and "others", so it's fairly easy to find CRTs.

[Anonymous No.9135028]

>>9135027
That's good to know.

[Anonymous No.9135034]

>>9134980
Yeah I see nice deals from the Balkans, they're just about the only ones putting monitors on eBay for "fair" prices. In Spain the good deals are locally but once they're put on the online market they get the retro gaming tax.

[Anonymous No.9135043]

>>9135020
He posted this pic up too, I think the cable is fucked?

[Anonymous No.9135046]

>>9135043
Here's the pic, easy to replace this?

[Anonymous No.9135048]

>>9130082

[Anonymous No.9135052]

>>9135043
>>9135046
Can't promise you anything from just pictures, it is a high chance that it is just the cable that's broken though, broken cable would have the same look.
You'd have to open it up to replace the cable though and get a similar one or patch together your own from a normal VGA cable you can get off Amazon and then add the little connector to it that's inside the CRT.

[Anonymous No.9135201]

I've finally got my setup all done and I've been messing with my switchers. I'm not really one to notice input lag (I can't really tell if my shinybow switchers add anything tangible) but it's kind of trippy sending the same inputs to a CRT and an HTDV at the same time and noticing the HDTV just barely lagging behind in display time.

[Anonymous No.9135215]

>>9135201
you using an upscaler?
a lot of the lag is mitigated with them but it's still not instantaneous feeling like a CRT

[Anonymous No.9135219]

>>9135201
nice jvc

[Anonymous No.9135224]

>>9135027
when your biggest concern is where you're going to find your next borscht, you tend not to worry about things like collecting old tvs

[Anonymous No.9135227]

i want a lil 8 or 9 inch crt so badly but they seem to either disappear immediately or get overpriced when theyre posted

[Anonymous No.9135237]

>>9135215
No upscaler for the HDTV, it's an older sony bravia that still has component and s-video inputs on the back so I can just plug shit straight in.

>>9135219
Yeah it was really nice to find this, it's a 32D501 if I remember right. I need to try and dick around with the screen size settings though it doesn't feel perfectly right.

[Anonymous No.9135243]

>found a small 1993 sharp tv on the sidewalk
>jump at the chance of taking it
>arrive home and realize its only rf connection
>realize the power cord is wrapped in electrical tape
>plug it in and it does not even power on
>dumped it at the trash bin at work
Oh well I guess, I still have the bigger crr I found last week, but still keeping an eye put for a smaller one for my snes setup

[Anonymous No.9135247]

>>9135243
Did research and learned it was possible to add rgb to it, but still gotta figure out why it doesn't power up and I have too many projects at the moment. RIP little tv

[Anonymous No.9135257]

>>9135237
right, but HDTV's don't do 240p

[Anonymous No.9135263]

>>9130586
what is the game/wallpaper on the bottom right?

[Anonymous No.9135292]

>>9135257
Real 240p is what the CRT is for anyway. The HDTV is there for my modern consoles but I hooked up my PS2, Wii and Xbox to it anyway in case I want to play shit in widescreen, and since I had them hooked up it was easy enough to hook EVERYTHING up just for the sake of it.

[Anonymous No.9135298]

>>9133698
It was for HD CRTs, and while the dude who brought it in gushes over it, he actually agrees with Linus that most people will not be able to justify owning one, as they're fucking huge and only really worth it for 7th-gen games. I had a Sony KV-30XS955, which is a late Super Fine Pitch model that is smaller and sharper than the model they showcased, and I still wouldn't recommend as it sucked at displaying 240p so 5th-gen and below are out, Dreamcast is better on a VGA monitor, and PS2 is largely a 480i machine. It's really only optimal for 480p GameCube, Xbox and Wii games, and most of all Xbox 360 and PS3. That's a very small window of games. So yeah, maybe the price for them will rise a bit, but I doubt it'll really impact things much. They're just too niche.

[Anonymous No.9135306]

The grid was already pretty good on this CRT but I got it looking like this after fiddling with the service menu settings. The top middle is pushed down a tiny bit which is kind of noticable but and I don't think I can really do anything about it through the service menu. Scroll tests look alright too but on the vertical scroll test the very top and bottom of the screen look just ever so slightly barely weird and I'm not sure what's bothering me about them, but I don't want to fall into the "staring at test patterns all fucking day" trap again so I'll just ignore it.

[Anonymous No.9135369]

>>9135247
So your first instinct was to dump it because it didnt immedatly turn on...
I hope you never find what your looking for retard lmao life is hard but when your stupid its that much harder

[Anonymous No.9135391]

>>9135052
Cheers

[Anonymous No.9135434]

>>9132910
Will Input lag be a problem

[Anonymous No.9135480]

[Anonymous No.9135524]

>>9134885
dot-pitch/diagonal size is going to be much finer on a larger CRT, in general terms. So you generally get a finer, cleaner image on a larger CRT when it's occupying the same size in your visual field. Most consumer CRT's have the same broad dot pitch regardless of tube size.

[Anonymous No.9135539]

Are 9" PVMs worth it? There's someone selling a 9041qm for under 150€ locally and I'm tempted. Already have a 14" in my setup so I don't think I really need it but it would look nice on my desk but at the same time I don't want to start hoarding again. I live in a small apartment.

[Anonymous No.9135585]

>>9135539
I don't think they are worth it. 14" is ideal for desk use, anything smaller just makes the experience worse.

[Anonymous No.9135606]

>>9135257
then what are they doing when you send them a 240p source and they display it?

[Anonymous No.9135614]

>>9135434
No, it's just like using a CRT with a VGA graphics card. Modern emulation itself can have less lag than the original console too.

[Anonymous No.9135615]

>>9135524
That's why TVL was mentioned, since it's universal and independent of size, unlike pitch

[Anonymous No.9135618]

>>9135606
Internally upscale to 1080i
They can only show 1080i, everything is internally upscaled to that, that's not a native 1080i signal (or 720p in some rare cases)

[Anonymous No.9135620]

>>9135306
when i look at a test pattern like this i can never tell how the geometry is unless it's something extremely obvious like vertical size or really bad pincushion. it seems like it would be better if the lines weren't as dense

[Anonymous No.9135625]

>>9135524
Most smaller 15kHz CRT monitors are much sharper than bigger CRT TVs.

[Anonymous No.9135629]

>>9135539
if you already have a 14", no. if you didnt have one i wouldve gone with it, though 150€ is a bit high, would need to know the condition and how well the geometry still holds up. but those super small ones with a carrying strap are nice just for the novelty. wouldnt play on it regularly but as a show piece that would be nice.

[Anonymous No.9135668]

>>9135625
Not really true, you lose a lot of detail on smaller CRT’s

[Anonymous No.9135673]

>>9135668
A 13 inch CRT with 600 TVL and .40 pitch is going to be much sharper with all the same detail than a 25 inch 600 TVL one showing the same signal, that's literally the point that there's no loss in detail
Monitors in general were made to show small detail, hence why they are much sharper than bigger TV, since they were intended recipient be used with computers or professionally

[Anonymous No.9135694]

>>9135673
>A 13 inch CRT with 600 TVL and .40 pitch is going to be much sharper with all the same detail than a 25 inch 600 TVL one showing the same signal, that's literally the point that there's no loss in detail
Up close the smaller set would probably look nicer, but i find that's how i judge CRT's, up close, so i guess you're right.

>>9135615
fair point.

>>9135539
i love mine, and i have larger ones too. Still, i got mine cheap a while ago, i probably wouldn't pay that much unless i really needed a testing monitor

[Anonymous No.9135726]

>>9135694
>Up close the smaller set would probably look nicer, but i find that's how i judge CRT's, up close, so i guess you're right
I think that's the main appeal of smaller CRTs, you can be closer to the and they take up less space / require less space to properly view without loosing details or quality (with a good small CRT)

[Anonymous No.9135730]

>>9135726
Closer to them*

[Anonymous No.9135871]

There is nothing wrong with having a small CRT.
It's how you use it, not the size itself.

[Anonymous No.9135950]

>>9130128
They've sold crt's for a while now. Hell I bought an ikegami in 2014. I couldn't find a cheap pvm at the time around 2013 but I got a used early 90's pvm off a medical auction site. Hell I bought a a24 bvm, a little over 120 lbs.

[Anonymous No.9135990]

>>9135046
Lol I knew it had to be one of these cables that go right in and you can't replace as with a regular VGA cable.

[Anonymous No.9136029]

>>9135990
Ikr, but I wonder is it really that hard to replace even so

[Anonymous No.9136139]

>>9135990
It's not that hard

[Anonymous No.9136351]

>>9135369
Instinct implies acting on impulse or powerful motivation, this was more of choice. The power issue wouldn't have been a problem solving, but like I said I've already got so much projects as is, as well as limited space, and I've already 4 working tvs. The gaming community in my area doesn't care for playing old hardware on old crts, so no one else would take it off my hands. Pick and chose your battles in life. You yourself are welcome to over burden yourself if you chose to.

[Anonymous No.9136357]

>>9136351
Did you even try to unload it? I literally live in the middle of nowhere, dozens of kilometers from the nearest town and when I put a CRT up for free it's gone within weeks, someone always comes and picks it up.

Just a faggot move to throw it away when someone else could fix it.

[Anonymous No.9136495]

>>9135201
That's a plasma Bravia?

[Anonymous No.9136567]

>>9133171
Based game choice. me and my brother played the hell out of it back in the day

[Anonymous No.9136576]

>>9135871
13"/14" for 2d games
20"+ for 3d

[Anonymous No.9136580]

>>9136576
See >>9135673
Size is irrelevant, unironically it's literally as anon said, it depends how you use it and the model of CRT

[Anonymous No.9136738]

>>9133521
>>9133534
Slot mask, right? Looks very much like my mid 90s TV.

[Anonymous No.9136748]

>>9136738
Yeah, you can see that the phosphor elements don't line up in a line like they would with a aperture grille, the small black horizontal bars in the vertical ones.

[Anonymous No.9136751]

>>9136748
Slot mask is my favorite, in my opinion it's the best of both worlds and suits really well for /vr/, even with sharper tubes.

[Anonymous No.9136767]

>>9134885
Maybe I sit 1 meter away from my big black 32" because I don't like stamp size.

[Anonymous No.9136778]

>>9136767
Kek

[Anonymous No.9136785]

>>9134885
Because I want to be able to sit back on the couch and play games in a normal entertain system setup. The small 13-14" monitors are only acceptable at a desk. And the the 8-9" ones are just pure copium

[Anonymous No.9136797]

>>9136785
I love small 9" CRTs to pop on my table and play old series and anime in the background while I do other shit.

[Anonymous No.9136810]

>>9136748
I love how slot mask looks even if it might just be because I grew up with it. Just adds a bit of softness without being blurry or fuzzy. That Sony at my cousin's looked very nice too, though.
>>9136778
I'm not even joking, my TV is 32" and black. Somtimes in tate for epic shmuppings, too. No pic because I don't have anything to hook up (sadman). DOJ, Mushi (shit port) and other PS2 games looked fucking amazing on it.

[Anonymous No.9136829]

>>9131845
Found your setup

[Anonymous No.9137206]

>>9136495
It's a KDL 40v3000, which I think is just a plain old LCD. I got it recently from my parents and it's been used and abused since it was bought, if it were plasma it would probably have crazy burn in on it.

[Anonymous No.9137239]

>>9136829
I'm humbled you recognized and remembered. Lot has changed since though, mostly for the better, but I haven't taken any /bst/ pictures recently. Have another CRT picture instead.

[Anonymous No.9137798]

Are there any 14 or so inch, non PVM/BVM CRT's that do 480p? Because that's my dream set

[Anonymous No.9137882]

>>9137798
Just PC CRT monitors as far as I'm aware.

[Anonymous No.9138123]

What's a good price for a PVM in Bongland?

[Anonymous No.9138375]

>>9135620
That's kind of the point of the test patterns honestly, it just makes the extremely obvious stuff more obvious. There's not really a need to have a pixel precise grid on screen you'd go insane trying to get it looking perfect.

[Anonymous No.9138518]

>>9137798
there's multiscan monitors that size but that's almost >>9137882 territory anyways
so unless you need it to also do 240p and 480i, you might as well get a standard VGA CRT

[Anonymous No.9138525]

[Anonymous No.9138592]

>>9138525
Cute and pretty

[Anonymous No.9138639]

What is the best CRT for 480p video?

[Anonymous No.9138681]

>>9138639
Define best? If say a later medium end PVM that supports 480p, 480p capable 4:3 consumer CRT TV or a low end VGA CRT, since the resolution is still low, it would benefit from the screen not being too sharp.
But I guess technically something like a high end 22inch VGA CRT, it will also clearly show all imperfections though.

[Anonymous No.9139004]

bump

[Anonymous No.9139015]

How much would you pay fpr a 13" Toshiba like this? They are asking $40 and I'm tempted to ask for like $25 and see what happens.

[Anonymous No.9139101]

>>9139015
They came back with a $35 offer. I feel like that is a bit much still, but also are these Toshiba TV/DVD tubes good quality still? I know people said to avoid these built in type CRTs for some reason.

[Anonymous No.9139130]

>>9134259
sorry for the late reply, but it's yumimi mix remix for the saturn

[Anonymous No.9139167]

>>9139101
is not a bad price imo, although i have heard the silver case flatscreen crts in general are more prone to geometry issues. i don't know how true that is, but my 32" sharp from 1993 has better geometry than my little 13" flatscreen from toshiba from 2002. the picture quality on the toshiba is really incredible though, sans the minor issues

[Anonymous No.9139182]

>>9139101
>pay me 35 bucks for taking my trash for me

[Anonymous No.9139207]

>>9139167
Yeah, the flat ones will always have slight geometry issues but usually you don't notice unless it is super bad.

>>9139182
I know, but I haven't seen anyone sell anything smaller than 27" for months in my area outside of Houston. Plus this listing is super near me.

[Anonymous No.9139308]

>>9134712
was vibrancy a major gap between shitty models and 'good' models? I had emmerson tier brands as a kid and I think that might be why I don't remember the crt as fondly as some.

[Anonymous No.9139339]

>>9139207
>>9139182
>>9139167
So I messaged them back saying that I'm going to have to pass and wished them a good day. They text me saying I had talked to them before and they were going to block my number. Fuck craiglist people they are just too weird to deal with.

[Anonymous No.9139340]

>>9139308
More expensive CRTs had more accurate phosphors and calibration options.
Otherwise it was the cheaper ones that were usually oversaturated and looked vibrant, not the high end professional ones.

[Anonymous No.9139381]

Yeah, I'm thinking it's gamer time

[Anonymous No.9139387]

>>9139381
Very nice, anon
Also cute

[Anonymous No.9139401]

So I just learned that most of the early color CRT TVs actually used a shadow mask arrangement similar to that of later PC monitors, and the slot mask design that became standard actually came later. This was apparently done for several reasons, chief among them being it allowed the image to be brighter. So why did PC monitors go back to the old dot-style shadow mask?

[Anonymous No.9139425]

Trying to git gud at this game.

[Anonymous No.9139443]

>>9139401
I'm assuming it's a matter of cost over quality. Are there even any professional monitors or PC monitors that use a slot mask? All the ones I've ever seen are dot shadow masks (besides trinitrons of course).

[Anonymous No.9139457]

>>9139443
Diamondtron is a rebranded trinitron.
Pic related is an example from a redditor i found after a quick google search

[Anonymous No.9139464]

>>9139457
That's why I said besides trinitrons, aperture grilles. Point is of all the shadow mask monitors I've seen, I've only ever seen them use dot patterns rather than slots. I've only ever seen slots on consumer TVs. I assume slots are cheaper and things that require higher line counts like professional and PC monitors instead go with dot shadow masks.

[Anonymous No.9139474]

>>9139401
Yep, early TVs used shadow mask, then slot mask became more common thanks to having a brighter image. There's of course computer CRTs that use slot mask and aperture grille, but a lot were shadow mask since it made sense, high pitch shadow mask looks very nice and sharp, while it also has a good anti-aliasing effect on text.

[Anonymous No.9139478]

>>9139443
>>9139464
Mostly older 15kHz and multiscan computer CRTs used high TVL slot mask tubes, later on it was all shadow mask and aperture grille, but don't quote me on that, there might have been couple slot masks later on too that I just don't know about.

[Anonymous No.9139483]

>>9139443
Older computer monitors were all slot mask AFAIK, and there were quite a few professional monitors similar to PVMs from manufacturers like Panasonic and Toshiba which I'm fairly sure used slot mask as well.

[Anonymous No.9139484]

>>9139457
Diamontron is Mitsubishi's name for their aperture grille tubes. They aren't rebranded Trinitrons, Trinitron is Sony's name for their aperture grille tubes. They all had their own patents.

[Anonymous No.9139485]

>>9139478
Do you have any pics? Genuinely curious, like I said, I've never ever seen a slot mask tube with a high TVL count.
Even my parents' toshiba HDCRT from back in the day still has a relatively low TVL count that makes it look pretty meh when displaying 480p or 1080i

[Anonymous No.9139493]

>>9139483
You're right, Toshiba definitely had slot mask professional monitors that targeted the same markets as Sony's PVMs/BVMs.

>>9139485
Something like >>9132163 uses a 600 TVL slot mask tube.

[Anonymous No.9139494]

>>9139485
Yeah, most HD CRTs were nothing to write home about TVL-wise. Only Sony's late Super Fine Pitch models really got into PVM territory.

[Anonymous No.9139837]

do samsung widescreen hdtvs have the same input lag that sony sets do?

[Anonymous No.9139848]

>>9139837
all HD TVs do

[Anonymous No.9139883]

What is the best media player for a rgb scart enabled crt? Tried using a pal ps3 but it converted all video files to 50hz.

Just need something that can play files from a usb or transfer files to a hdd from usb so I can watch old sd anime. Considering getting a ntsc ps3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PXl3FMv6vc

[Anonymous No.9139892]

>>9139883
probably a computer with an older graphics card capable of analogue output. Then either use linux, or CRT_emudriver on winblows

[Anonymous No.9139903]

>>9139892
Way over my budget and head unfortunatley. Just need a decent plug and play option rn

[Anonymous No.9139928]

>>9139883
For 480i? You should be able to force 60Hz 480i (NTSC) out of your PS3 with CFW when you jailbreak it. If you have a Phat or Slim, those can all be software jailbroken now. RGB itself has nothing to do with PAL and NTSC anyways, you just need it to output the refresh rate, if you force 480i while using RGB, it should be 60Hz automatically.

Otherwise a Pi or a Wii will also do the trick, Pi has the RGB-Pi and Wii RGB cables are cheap and so are Wiis.

Also even though most PAL sets that accept RGB will also do 60Hz, it's not a 100% guarantee if you never tried before, exceptions exist.

>>9139892
No need to use CRT_emudriver and a old graphics card if you want RGB, DP to VGA adapter and VGA to RGB SCART with custom 480i mode will be easier and more flexible, without having to get a seperate graphics card for it.

[Anonymous No.9140084]

>>9139928
You can't get cfw on a superslim, only hen, if you know a way to do it on hen then do tell.

Also I never thought to play video through a wii, how would I go about that?

[Anonymous No.9140114]

>>9140084
>You can't get cfw on a superslim, only hen, if you know a way to do it on hen then do tell.
Yeah you can't sadly, hence why I mentioned only Phat and Slim.

>Also I never thought to play video through a wii, how would I go about that?
There's different video players, like:
https://wiibrew.org/wiki/WiiMC
https://wiibrew.org/wiki/MPlayerWii

[Anonymous No.9140121]

>>9140084
>>9140114
Jailbreaking Wii's is pretty easy, there's a lot of guides and you can still get Wii RGB SCART cables off Amazon even or eBay. Then you can play off a network share or a external USB hard drive or stick.

[Anonymous No.9140130]

can't you just simulate a Cathode-ray tube screen with modern graphic cards?

[Anonymous No.9140132]

>>9140084
i guarantee all 3 of these girls smelled like absolute death

[Anonymous No.9140140]

>>9140130
Uh, yeah, hence the gorillion CRT shader threads we have here on /vr/. Problem is, modern displays are themselves a limiting factor in some respects, and shaders can only go so far.

[Anonymous No.9140145]

>>9140130
>>9140140
Was just about to post this. What this guy said.

[Anonymous No.9140146]

>>9130278
>Don't have shitty pets
>I win
It's that simple. Don't be a faggot next time.

[Anonymous No.9140150]

>>9140132
I miss the smell of teen scene girls, specially on weekend nights
Smoke, weed, booze and perfume, sometimes also cum

[Anonymous No.9140152]

>>9140150
Same, anon, same.

[Anonymous No.9140160]

>>9140130
>>9140140
>>9140145
shaders just arent the same
if they were you probably wouldnt be fomoing your way into these threads

[Anonymous No.9140162]

>>9140160
Of course not, plus they don't help with motion clarity and latency and usually aren't 4:3 either.

[Anonymous No.9140180]

>>9132163
What does this do?

[Anonymous No.9140238]

metroid in 480p on my HD crt

[Anonymous No.9140241]

>>9140238
Basterino

[Anonymous No.9140248]

>>9130082
ill never be able to play the only retro game i want to

>don't have a CRT tv
>live in a rural area so i don't have anything around me or anything on craigslist
>dont want to use faceberg
>even if i found something i wouldn't be able to pick it up
>neet with no car
>only games i want to play are light gun which means i can only use certain tv's making it even harder

i don't need suggestions i dont really care i just wanted to complain

[Anonymous No.9140257]

>>9140248

[Anonymous No.9140260]

>>9140257
Couldn’t resist could ya wagie

[Anonymous No.9140268]

>>9140180
Exactly what it says, turns everything green. Basically pic related.

It's mainly indented for when you use old computers over composite and want sharper text, it turns colors off and turns everything into green monochrome to reduce color related blurriness / fringing, if you just use text, it makes it easier to read, specially with 80 columns. Imagine using it with something like an Apple II.

[Anonymous No.9140287]

>>9140248
I've picked up a lot of CRTs using public transport, it's not impossible
Put up an ad that you're looking, maybe you're lucky and you can pick it up by bus or train or something

[Anonymous No.9140290]

>>9140268
But why? Just turn down the saturation

[Anonymous No.9140291]

>>9140287
>rural area

[Anonymous No.9140295]

>>9140290
You could of course but it's not the same, turning down saturation makes it white, which means all 3 guns for RGB fire, this just makes the green gun and phosphors work instead, which is slightly sharper.

[Anonymous No.9140302]

>>9140291
Don't you have busses and trains? Even the most remote shithole in Russia even has buses going thru it, maybe someone close enough that you can get to with public transport would have one for you

[Anonymous No.9140379]

Hi there, I'm trying to disassemble my CRT and this piece of shit plug thing won't disconnect. It looks like it should be able to because there are similar looking connections elsewhere that I could pull off these little metal rod things. Should I use CRC or what? Cheers

[Anonymous No.9140386]

>>9140379
Wiggle it a lot

[Anonymous No.9140403]

>>9140386
I tried, it's really stuck in there. Feels like I'm about to break the whole board. I'll keep at it I guess

[Anonymous No.9140408]

>>9140248
get a bike or just walk it on a trolley
there should be plenty of people in rural areas that want to get rid of them

[Anonymous No.9140410]

>>9140403
Be sure you support the board from the underside too and don't be too rough if you can't solder, you might crack the solder joints and have to re-solder them
Try pushing it back down too and not just pulling it up while wiggling

[Anonymous No.9140413]

>>9140386
Yea but hows that gonna help him remove that cord?

[Anonymous No.9140418]

>>9140379
There's no traces between the connector, push a screwdriver between there and use it as a leaver

[Anonymous No.9140424]

>>9140302
He is probably American, they don't have public transport lol

[Anonymous No.9140696]

>>9130281
How so?

[Anonymous No.9140704]

[Anonymous No.9140794]

>>9140386
got it. turns out I needed to wiggle it more.

[Anonymous No.9140876]

>>9140424
LMAO land of the free

[Anonymous No.9141069]

>>9130281
most consumer sets use passive cooling and cats love to sleep on top of CRTs, blocking the vents
usually doesn't kill a CRT instantly but reduces their lifespan by a lot

[Anonymous No.9141093]

This PS1 game feels like a bad dream

[Anonymous No.9141190]

>dicking around in my crt's service menu again because I just can't help myself
>already got the geometry pretty damn good, but what if I can get it even better?
>spend like 15 minutes just pushing settings left and right to see how it affects the picture
>not happy with any results, decide to just put it back the way I had it
>realize I don't remember the way I had it (I have the factory settings written down to fall back on so I didn't panic too much)
>end up spending like half an hour trying to get it back to where it was the first time I tried messing with the picture
>got it pretty much the way I had it, but it just doesn't feel exactly like the way it used to be

Rule one of the service menu: before you do anything, write down all the factory settings
Rule two of the service menu: if you get the settings the way you like them, write those ones down too while you're at it just in case

[Anonymous No.9141191]

>>9140379
>>9140794
>Posts made 3 hours apart
That was some wiggling uh

[Anonymous No.9141313]

>>9139883
On a side note (I don't know if you have any material like this): you can play region 2 DVDs on a PAL PS3 of course.
Now, they would usually contain PAL video in Europe, but some used NTSC instead, especially later ones. I have a few concerts on R2 DVDs like that. Japanese DVDs are also region 2, but NTSC.
When you play an NTSC DVD on a PAL console and disable scaling in the video playback options, then the console outputs 480p via HDMI and should also output 480i on the analog out, even though you can't choose that resolution manually in the settings (only 576i/p is available on PAL consoles).

[Anonymous No.9141319]

>>9141313
>(only 576i/p is available on PAL consoles).
Unless you jailbreak, which isn't a thing for the Super Slim

[Anonymous No.9141326]

>>9141319
Yeah, I was talking about OFW of course.

[Anonymous No.9141713]

>>9140876
At least we have true freedom, Muhammad

[Anonymous No.9141921]

>>9141313
Problem I've found is ps3 doesn't accept mkv, so I need a player that can do that

[Anonymous No.9141963]

>>9140424
uh, yeah we do. thing is, only niggers use it.

[Anonymous No.9142032]

>>9141963
>waaah waaah I don't have a car so I can't get a crt because I'm a poor neet
>"just use a bus"
>what you think I'm that desperate I'm not a poor nigger
Seems entirely like a (You) problem to me

[Anonymous No.9142036]

>>9141921
You'd have better luck with streaming from a media server instead of playing your files from USB.

[Anonymous No.9142042]

if you have a raspberry pi you can output composite and use it to watch stuff on your plex server, I'm watching the 1980s transformers movie on a 1980s crt

[Anonymous No.9142048]

>>9139883
forgot to reply
>>9142042

[Anonymous No.9142072]

>>9142032
im not the guy you were talking to. i have a car. im just stating a fact.

[Anonymous No.9142106]

>>9140302
>>9140424
>>9140876
>>9141963
>>9142032
Rural areas in the US generally don't have public transport. Not enough people needing it to maintain the costs without heavy government subsidizing.
That being said if you're a NEET you have bigger problems to worry about than getting the right TV to play your vidya

[Anonymous No.9142128]

>>9142042
But its weak for post snes emulation and cant do 240p right?

[Anonymous No.9142178]

>>9142128
I don't know about 240p, I use a wii for emulation. the only thing I use my pi 3b for is watching my plex server and its great for that. I tried using my ps3 for dlna server but it had issues with a lot of my movie files and playing audio

[Anonymous No.9142187]

>>9140238
Thats melee, can you do 240p?

[Anonymous No.9142283]

Did the shader thread get censored? Suddenly disappeared.

I've been browsing this site for a long, long time, and this is the only board where i've seen posters doing excessive misreporting. It doesn't even make sense considering how slow the board is. Almost like people are gaming/raiding the report queue. Feels like reddit with how much disappears on this board, complete opposite of the rest of the site.

[Anonymous No.9142512]

>>9141921
What player did you try? It can play MKV with software decoding

[Anonymous No.9142527]

>>9142128
>>9142178
Pi 4 will do 5th gen and 240p, there's even the RGB cable for the GPIO header. Pi just costs retarded much right now because shortages. Otherwise you could get one plus the RGB cables for 60 EUR in total.

[Anonymous No.9142543]

>>9142283
i only report racism :0)

[Anonymous No.9142597]

>>9141921
i think there's a homebrew media player but mkv is still spotty. i convert my files to mp4 for ps3 (if they aren't already, a lot of old torrents still contain mp4)

[Anonymous No.9142607]

>>9141963
you think this is a defence but this just makes you look even dumber and more american

[Anonymous No.9142614]

>>9141713
the ultimate american cope

[Anonymous No.9142647]

>>9142106
>heavy government subsidizing
it wouldn't be that heavy. and it would create a lot more economic opportunity and bring more money into rural communities. but americans are by and large mentally ill and would rather live like shit than let jamal or cleetus get the same benefits, because freedom or something. that's why so many rural communities have been ravaged by economic despair and drug addiction

[Anonymous No.9142832]

>>9132149
that's Estonia you retard

[Anonymous No.9142846]

>>9132149
>>9142832
Kek

[Anonymous No.9142919]

>>9142187
that's metroid from melee. also my hdcrt is no good for 240p, I have an SD TV for that

[Anonymous No.9142926]

>>9142919
>that's metroid

[Anonymous No.9142985]

>>9142527
that sounds sweet, too bad about the price

[Anonymous No.9142994]

>>9142926
i think metroid is a pretty cool guy, eh kills aliens and doesn't afraid of anything

[Anonymous No.9143008]

>>9142994
Literally what I was thinking about posting before just pointing it out

[Anonymous No.9143069]

>>9142994
kek I had legit forgotten about this one

[Anonymous No.9143076]

Can anyone recommend an RCA Y splitter cable that mixes the signals together properly? I have a stereo modded Atari but my CRT only has mono audio.

[Anonymous No.9143102]

>>9143076
It's easy to make, all you need is two resistors and a RCA cable you can cut up.

[Anonymous No.9143270]

i wish more crts from the 70s survived in good shape

[Anonymous No.9143271]

>>9143270

[Anonymous No.9143273]

>>9143271

[Anonymous No.9143280]

So 480i is the same thing as 240p really right? My CRT when hooked to my SNES with an SVIDEO cable says its running at 480i 60fps. The scanlines arent shaky and wavy like how it is on my PS2 which is also 480i. Is it showing me a 240p image or not

[Anonymous No.9143283]

>>9143273

[Anonymous No.9143291]

>>9143283
not a tv but neat early home projector

[Anonymous No.9143306]

>>9143280
Can you not see scanlines?

[Anonymous No.9143327]

>>9143306
I can

[Anonymous No.9143426]

>>9141191
I gave up for a while because I had other things to do. When I came back it took me like a minute.

[Anonymous No.9143458]

>>9132163
>those knobs on the display that change settings
holy fuck, i'm cumming, LOIS

[Anonymous No.9143762]

>>9143102
Can you elaborate a bit?

[Anonymous No.9143775]

>>9130170
PVMs are for pros to detect faults in the picture hence why each line is distinct from the other so any bleeding is clearly identified.
feel free to prefer these but games were developed to be played on consumer TVs.
the only advantage of CRTs is to have an organic 1:1 picture without big squares, so trading squares for thick lines is kinda pointless...

[Anonymous No.9143780]

>>9143775
idiot

[Anonymous No.9143781]

>>9143780
asshat

[Anonymous No.9143782]

>>9143781
ESLkun?

[Anonymous No.9143784]

>>9143782
?

[Anonymous No.9143787]

>>9143784

[Anonymous No.9143793]

>>9143787
buyers remorse takes strange forms in these parts whew

[Anonymous No.9143841]

>>9143775
The fuzziness of crts does make some games look better, but most of the time I prefer the cleaner look of a pro monitor.

[Anonymous No.9143856]

>>9143841
Ultimately what that anon doesn’t understand, or is intentionally misrepresenting, is that yes games were made for “consumer appliances” but that “consumer appliances” are not some monolithic thing, the visuals are optimized based on the idea of getting the best visuals on the most tv models possible. Which means they’re not actually optimized for any one model. And there’s the problem with anon’s argument, because that’s where he’s misrepresenting reality by implying he’s interested in some objective quality. In reality it’s just as much taste as anything else. A good analogy would be comparing it to mastering in music. The idea of mastering is making sure the music sounds consistent across various sets of speakers that perform completely differently. That doesn’t make listening to something on a pair of reference monitors “wrong”. It’ll be a flatter, more accurate, and generally drier sound compared to what commercial speakers give you, but some people prefer it and listening in that way can provide actual insight into the engineering process used on the album. TL;DR that anon just has an axe to grind but doesn’t actually understand what he’s talking about. Not in a practical sense anyways.

[Anonymous No.9143882]

So I got this tank from an old lady for 10 euros, anyway I was searching online and found out that it's LCD? can't find websites about this TV model.
also what so special about the Tranytron? does this TV have any advantages over other CRT?

[Anonymous No.9144009]

>>9143841
i can understand that i just don't get why people act pedantic towards consumers TV users.
i don't have a horse in this race as i use OSSC on an LCD TV...

[Anonymous No.9144024]

>>9143856
what i do understand is that crtfags are pedantic autists sometimes, just as audiofools.

[Anonymous No.9144034]

>>9143882
trinitrons usually have less light bleeding/crisper picture.

[Anonymous No.9144176]

>>9144024
Maybe because there's an actual difference, but you wouldn't know since you use a OSSC

[Anonymous No.9144208]

>>9144176
what if it's not a difference i care about? to me the sweet spot of CRT is Trinitron. i don't want something too blurry but i don't want to see the lines too much. Visible lines always annoyed me.

[Anonymous No.9144390]

>>9143882
>LCD
What gave you that impression? It's clearly a CRT, though a look at the specs reveals it's a 100Hz model, which sucks for games, so yeah, not exactly worth it.

[Anonymous No.9144405]

>>9144208
>to me the sweet spot of CRT is Trinitron.
What do you mean? Trinitron itself says very little. There's more to tubes than just the manufacturing method, there's Trinitrons that are dimmer and blurrier than Shadow Masks and Shadow Masks that are dimmer and blurrier than Trinitrons, and so on.

>i don't want something too blurry but i don't want to see the lines too much. Visible lines always annoyed me.
You realize Trinitrons go everywhere from a few hundred TVL to over a thousand?

[Anonymous No.9144427]

>>9144208
>what if it's not a difference i care about?
then why are you in this thread peeing and pooing everywhere?

[Anonymous No.9144432]

>>9144390
interesting, is that true for games played over hdmi as well?

[Anonymous No.9144491]

>>9140248
eBay sellers will ship to your home address. Most of the TVs are overpriced, but it's better than nothing.

[Anonymous No.9144518]

>>9144405
consumer trinitrons such as this one for example. not professional monitors.
>>9144427
>NOOOO you can't use the threaderinoooooo

[Anonymous No.9144529]

>>9144432
It's okay for progressive resolutions over HDMI like PS3 and 360, the latency is around the same as a old LCD TV.

[Anonymous No.9144621]

>>9144390
it was this website: https://www.factoryreset.tv/specifications/sony-tv-sony-kv-32cs70
>a look at the specs reveals it's a 100Hz model, which sucks for games, so yeah, not exactly worth it
why 100hz is bad for gaming?

[Anonymous No.9144670]

Any GDM-F520 owners here?
Do you have issue with ghosting? Is it better than picrel, while running 1600x1200p107hz GTF?

This monitor used to have like 6-7 ghosts, it looked pretty bad. I managed to fix that, but I just cannot get rid of this last ghost, no matter what I try.
For those unaware this is an infamous issue on the F520, something in the video board is causing serious ringing. Usually messing with or reseating the video board fixes it. Though I had to do something more drastic and tin the contacts to keep it at least this good. I cannot get it any better no matter what.
I've even tried shorting certain filtering componenets (ferrites separating AGND/DGND, I suppose) on the video board, without ANY effect, better or worse. This monitor is not giving me any leads about what this last bit could be ...
I'm starting to doubt my own sanity, is the F520 even supposed to look better than this?

[Anonymous No.9144673]

>>9143327
Then its 240p, your tv just sucks at displayin the proper info

[Anonymous No.9144680]

>>9144670
Why do we have to share a thread with CRT Computer Monitors?

[Anonymous No.9144682]

>>9143270
They weren’t very good anon.
This shit often took forever for the Color to appear.
Had to warm up. Then the hideous blur.
This retro appreactiation for absolute trash never appeals to me. But I guess you had to be there to know the truth.

[Anonymous No.9144691]

>>9142527
The Pi 4 had no composite display out.

[Anonymous No.9144705]

>>9144670
What type of connection you are using (BNC or VGA)? Try the other one. Yes, the F520 is supposed to look perfect.

[Anonymous No.9144742]

>>9144680
I usually respect your preference for blur and garbage geometry, and thus stay in /g/, but I require mental assistance right now.

>>9144705
That's like the only thing I've not tried, because I don't have a BNC cable, and this issue usually happens regardless on the input used.
But I'm starting to suspect this monitor may have an additional issue on top of the common contact-related one, as it's behaving quite differently to the many anecdotes on the interwebs. Trying BNC would narrow it down at least by a couple circuits.
Now, where do you actually buy one? I've already scoured flea markets and such. There's a few in Aliexpress, has anyone tried them? $20 for one ...

[Anonymous No.9144760]

>>9144742
The f520's input board connector sometimes get loose. I would suggest reconnecting it. I'm basically sure your problems are related to that.

[Anonymous No.9144771]

>>9144742
mmm that's a damn fine screen anon

[Anonymous No.9144782]

>>9144771
The best sony ever did (if you don't care about aspect ratio), it's even sharper than the fw900.

[Anonymous No.9144790]

>>9144621
It frame doubles internally, the original idea was to market it with less flicker but it's just bullshit marketing gimmick using the "bigger number better" shit. For gaming you want framerate and refresh rate to be 1:1 (same), otherwise you have double images. Also HD TVs have more latency since they upscale everything, for HDMI thought the latency is similar to old LCD TVs.

[Anonymous No.9144797]

>>9144670
Bad or cheap cable maybe? I've had this happen using cheap cables.

>>9144680
Because it's a CRT general? People use all kinds of CRTs here for /vr/, be it computer or consumer TV.

[Anonymous No.9144810]

>>9144691
Did you miss the part talking about the RGB output? Anon specifically wanted RGB.

Anyways, Pi 4 has composite out from the 3.5mm jack, you need to enable it though.

[Anonymous No.9144826]

>>9144670
>I'm starting to doubt my own sanity, is the F520 even supposed to look better than this?
Cheaper G and E monitors from the same series already look perfect, you're damn right the F is supposed to be absolutely perfect.

[Anonymous No.9144834]

>>9144782
shame about the ghosting, guess you didn't pay too much for it but I'm sure it's input related and should be a easy fix
I hope you could get a good price at least with these issues

[Anonymous No.9144840]

>>9144742
>PVM
>blur and garbage geometry
Lol my PVM cost more and came out the same time

[Anonymous No.9144846]

>>9144742
Where do you live? Here you can still find BNC cables on local classifieds. What VGA cable do you use right now? What is it hooked up to?

[Anonymous No.9144849]

>>9144670
Why does it have such horrible convergence?

[Anonymous No.9144860]

>>9143762
Google: join stereo resistors

Should give you good guides, better than I can explain

[Anonymous No.9144883]

Is fumoposting allowed here?

>>9144760
I've done that a thousand times. Even tinned the contacts to force them into greater pressure. That's the only thing that actually improved it. But not entierly.

>>9144797
>>9144846
>Bad or cheap cable maybe? I've had this happen using cheap cables.
I've tried everything (but BNC), even using a male-male adapter to COMPLETELY eliminate any cable, plugging my Delock 62967 directly to the monitor (and no the adapter is not creating this issue either, tested in many ways).
Interestingly the ghosting pattern does change depending on cable length, so the monitor is reflecting the video back to the cable and then it oscillates there creating the mess.
>Where do you live?
Finland

>>9144834
Paid 250€ for it, knowing it had this issue, in the hopes it would be a quick fix like interwebs told me .. well that didn't work out. But I will get it fixed one way or another. I'll fucking solder the video board on the mobo if everything else fails.
Otherwise the monitor is relatively low hour and has absolutely flawless uniformity and all. Just perfection, if it wasn't for this one stupid blemish.

>>9144849
Because I'm fucking with it. This monitor has dynamic convergence which lets you drag a 9x5 grid of points around to make it absolutely perfect. The monitor doesn't have a single convergence strip, it's designed to rely on this feature entierly.
So the convergence is a software calibration issue, that can wait before I fix the hardware issue.

>>9144840
Can it do 1080p120hz?

[Anonymous No.9144895]

>>9144883
>1080p120hz
Why would I want that? Can yours do 240p60hz?

[Anonymous No.9144897]

>>9144790
so it was a waste of time? well at least the visuals look nice

[Anonymous No.9144908]

>>9144621
>>9144897
Yours isn't a HD TV, but it's still 100Hz. Unless it has a setting to disable it, it still has the same issues, just slightly better latency.
Generally keep away fro anything wide-screen for /vr/, unless it's for 6th gen and newer.

[Anonymous No.9144916]

>>9144897
>stretched

[Anonymous No.9144918]

>>9144895
>Can yours do 240p60hz?
Why would I want that?

[Anonymous No.9144929]

>>9144518
keep getting triggered then fag

[Anonymous No.9144930]

>>9144918
Exactly. So no need to be cocky about it.

[Anonymous No.9144940]

>>9144929
why so mad?
wait i don't care...
>>9144897
idk why but horizontal stretch doesn't trigger me as much as vertical stretch

[Anonymous No.9144942]

>>9144908
Yeah I use it mainly for my PS2 and Wii sometimes my PS3 as well.
for older systems I use this 14" sharp TV
>>9144916
it's not

[Anonymous No.9144981]

>>9144940
>>9144916
forgive me /vr/os for I have sinned

[Anonymous No.9144990]

>>9144930
Okay you got me
Should have said something about whine then :^)

[Anonymous No.9145014]

>>9144981
Kek

[Anonymous No.9145051]

[Anonymous No.9145102]

>>9144940
>bro i don't even care so here's another response
respond again telling me how much you don't care

[Anonymous No.9145380]

>>9145102
no i care that you are mad, i just don't want to know your reasons, actually i like that you keep seething at my posts kek
>>9144981
kek

[Anonymous No.9145520]

where can i sell a pvm at ?
I have a sony pvm-9L2.
m6555

[Anonymous No.9145548]

>>9145380
nice cope anon

[Anonymous No.9145552]

>>9140248
the werid thing about crt tvs and light guns. is that some tvs make the light gun more accurate.

[Anonymous No.9145556]

>>9145548
i prefer my copium consumer grade desu.

[Anonymous No.9145710]

How can I tell if I'm using RGB signal on my Trinitron KV-25X5K? When switching sources, either the AV1 icon shows up or the same thing but with three dots instead of the 1.

[Anonymous No.9145783]

>>9145710
The three dots is RGB, each dots represents a letter/color.
It's normal for AV1 to also still work, that will be composite, since composite is used for sync with RGB.

[Anonymous No.9145827]

>>9144024
Were not talking about consumers were talking about the people making the content. Are you telling me that you think being a pedantic content creator is a bad thing when it comes to technical details?

[Anonymous No.9145914]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-q8ehzHeQQ
This thing is pretty fucking cool: a black-and-white CRT with a sort of LCD panel in front of it that colorizes the image, similar to a DLP projector. Never knew such a thing existed.

I recall anons in past threads discussing the possibility of CRTs coming back saying BW tubes might not be that hard to make, but color ones being far more difficult and much more expensive to produce without economies of scale. This colorization method, however, looks like a decent alternative to phosphor masks. I'm not holding my breath or anything, but if ever some wealthy madman got it in his head to try to bring CRTs back, this could be a good way to go about it.

[Anonymous No.9145919]

>>9145914
It's nice and sharp but it suffers from the same color fringing like DLP projectors and doesn't scale well either. Never owned one myself but there might be a latency penalty since it's doing digital processing for the color.

It's cool of course in how it works, but not a real viable alternative for color CRTs for the purpose this board uses them.

[Anonymous No.9145925]

>>9145919
I know I'm completely ignorant about the principles involved, but might not today's technology help push it along to a better place? That little thing was made way back in 2000, and just in image processing things are much better now. But again, I don't know enough to say whether the tech can or cannot possibly scale without heavy modifications.

[Anonymous No.9145935]

>>9145925
Latency could possibly improved if the old one had any meaningful impact in it but the color fringing will be a problem, just like it is with modern DLP projectors that use color wheels.

[Anonymous No.9146361]

>>9145935
This anon sucks cocks

[Anonymous No.9146379]

>>9146361
He’s right but I don’t consider that an insult. What else would you do with a cock if not throat it really deep?

[Anonymous No.9146409]

>>9145051
wait wtf i just realized that the red mage isn't holding a cane, that's part of his cape

[Anonymous No.9146423]

>>9146409
stop bulshitting moron
no one thought it wasn't the cape

[Anonymous No.9146520]

>>9144742
>I usually respect your preference for blur and garbage geometry
Nice meme

[Anonymous No.9146686]

I have an issue on my tv where the image stretches on the left hand side. Are capacitors the likely culprit?

[Anonymous No.9146790]

>>9146686
Pics?

[Anonymous No.9146793]

>>9145783
>The three dots is RGB, each dots represents a letter/color.
To be honest, I always thought they represented each RCA chinch.

[Anonymous No.9146804]

>>9146793
You mean like Composite+RightStereo+LeftStereo ?
Three dots in a pyramid is RGB though, if that's selected then you're using RGB

[Anonymous No.9146805]

>>9146804
>You mean like Composite+RightStereo+LeftStereo ?
Yes, that.

[Anonymous No.9146812]

>>9146805
I can see how someone might think that

[Anonymous No.9146868]

Is distortion on vertical scrolling inevitable? I spent 2 hours messing with settings, the grid pattern on 240p test suit looks fine but when I play a game with vertical scrolling it has noticeable distortions near the top and bottom. Is there a proper way to calibrate this? Like what order do you go with? Are there any tricks to it or you just need to hope your eyes are good enough? I wear glasses so it's hard to be accurate.

Here are the relevant settings I have:
>Pin Phase
>Pin Amp
>Lower Pin Amp
>Upper Pin Amp
>Sexy
>V Linearity
>V Bow
>Lower V Bow
>V Angle

[Anonymous No.9146894]

>>9146868
Depends on the TV model and how much wear it has, it can look perfect stationary but bright/dark changes in the image can physically change the image size and make it seem distorted, specially when those bright/dark regions are moving.

Try tuning the brightness really down, does the distortion reduce too?

[Anonymous No.9146902]

>>9146868
That sounds like linearity if you mean they stretch and squash from top to bottom
You gotta be careful messing with linearity, you can get to a point where it’s hard to make geometry look good again

[Anonymous No.9146923]

>>9144883
You might want to give BNC a try, double image thing happens on my eizo with VGA cables aswell, I think its because the signal has to go from the vga ports to the BNC traces and that causes interference, using a VGA to BNC cable eliminates the issues mostly.
Surprises me that you havent tried that when using the second input would be the first thing that came to my mind to try.
Also BNC is much more aestethic then VGA

[Anonymous No.9146925]

Sailor moon is pretty and cute

[Anonymous No.9146929]

>>9146923
My F520 didn't have this issue with VGA cables, Sony designed them well.

BNC also lacks EDID though. It only exists for backwards compatibility with old workstations that used 3W3 and BNC.

[Anonymous No.9146930]

>>9146923
With your logic, BNC would have the same issue since VGA traces would cause it that connect to the BNC ones
In reality it's not designed like that

[Anonymous No.9146937]

>>9146929
BNC might still fix it though but because the VGA part has some issues before the signals join
From factory it shouldn't though

[Anonymous No.9146947]

>>9146930
I dont exactly what causes it since I havent followed every trace on my monitors signal board, it was just a guess since ringig can be caused by something like that and with vga there is more going on then with BNC
>>9146929
yes, getting rid of all the uncessary pins like EDID can only be a good thing for signal quality

[Anonymous No.9146974]

>>9146947
Not how it works, the signal cables in good cables are shielded and so are traces in good monitors (sandwiched between ground in the PCB), there's no impact on signal quality with or without EDID
Even shitty monitors don't experience any difference, I know since I've tried to remove EDID and it didn't change anything in the quality, just removed all the monitor modes so I had to add them manually

[Anonymous No.9146985]

Someone please take a photo of the LOOKIN GOOD funky kong screen of Donkey Kong Country on a CRT

[Anonymous No.9147018]

>>9136829
>>9144883
Why is this thread full of mongols

[Anonymous No.9147024]

>>9146985
how do you make him throw his hat like that?

[Anonymous No.9147043]

>>9147024
If I recall correctly missing the platform on that level leaves you stranded and causes immediate death

[Anonymous No.9147069]

>>9146929
>My F520
Hey hey hey, I have a question for you. Does the no-signal screen go bit blurry on your monitor after a short while being powered? Another strange, but inconsequential behavior of my F520.

>>9146923
Ah the retarded spammer's here
>Surprises me that you havent tried that when using the second input would be the first thing that came to my mind to try.
Because everyone else who has this issue swears it doesn't matter which input you use. And I've fixed 90% of the issue by not touching the inputs.

Looking at the schematics, BNC and VGA are really quickly joined togheter before hitting the amplifiers. It's highly unlikely the few components between the port and the input selector are an issue, especially when all colors suffer from this issue equally.

I've been in general staring at these schematics for way too long, and there's some interesting things I've learned.
Out of all of these CR1 chassis monitors, only the F520 has a widespread ghosting issue. And the F520's video board is unique to it. All the other monitors use an "A1" board, the F520 uses an "A2".
This btw means that the C520K Artisan is using the exact same video board as a fucking Dell P1130.
The A1 and A2 boards use the same OSD and preamp, but input selector and amp use slightly different chip. The cut-off amp chip is replaced by a sea of discrete componenets on the A2. The A1 also appears to be single-sided while A2 is double. Otherwise contacts and even the pinouts are exactly the same.
It could be the new amps are just easier to upset with even slightly resistive ground/power contacts. But who knows, all my theories about this monitor have so far been wrong.

I should have done this ages ago but ordered some DeoxIT D100L.

[Anonymous No.9147091]

>>9147069
>Hey hey hey, I have a question for you. Does the no-signal screen go bit blurry on your monitor after a short while being powered? Another strange, but inconsequential behavior of my F520.
Can't test, gave mine away couple years ago but I don't think so, at least I can't remember it ever being blurry.

[Anonymous No.9147092]

>>9147069
>I should have done this ages ago but ordered some DeoxIT D100L.
Reee you should have had contact cleaner from the start and used it everywhere where applicable the whole time

[Anonymous No.9147106]

>>9147092
This isn't contact cleaner, it's enhancer. I've already had some generic cleaner on the monitor MANY times. All it does is leave a mess.
I haven't tried enhancers yet because they tend to be insanely expensive. In Europe all they sell is this kind of audiophile garbage with audiophile price. Even the industry standard Stabilant 22 costs $65 for 5ml and you have to ship from America.
This DeoxIT stuff cost me just 15€ for 1.6ml, with shipping from America. Chill 9375€/liter price.

[Anonymous No.9147112]

>>9147106
You probably never used good contact cleaner + protector
It shouldn't leave any mess since it evaporates

[Anonymous No.9147114]

>>9147112
It leaves a mess because it corrodes the plastics and the board itself, slightly

[Anonymous No.9147116]

>>9147114
All good contact cleaners + protectors are plastic safe
I'd never recommend one that destroys plastics

[Anonymous No.9147119]

>>9147116
Well, it's all I can find locally. Automotive stuff.
I don't understand why none of the name brands exist in europe, and there doesn't seem to be any alternatives to them either.

[Anonymous No.9147123]

>>9147119
I'm in Europe too, just order from eBay or Amazon if for some reason you don't have a local computer store chain that sells them online

[Anonymous No.9147127]

>>9147123
Amazon.de and .co.uk only have scraps, and none of the enhancers from DeoxIT.
Usually it costs unreasonable amounts to ship anything from amazon.com so I don't even look there. Except this time.

[Anonymous No.9147130]

>>9147127
>falling for literally audiophile shit
Suite yourself

[Anonymous No.9147134]

>>9147130
Yea except we're dealing with video here so the audiophile shit might actually make a difference.
And according to couple other ghosting F520 owners, Stabilant 22 is what finally worked for them. 15€ to try is nothing either.

[Anonymous No.9147137]

>>9144883
>buys broken CRT for the price of a fully working one
>>9147106
>buys snake oil audiophool products that are only sold in the US since there's not even people dumb enough to fall for in Europe
>>9147134
Hahaha, you really are gullible.
You didn't buy audiophile grade either, that would cost 100x less and be quality, you bought audiophool snake oil.

[Anonymous No.9147138]

>>9147134
Stabilant 22 can be bought online from Germany
At least that makes sense compared to the audiophile crap

[Anonymous No.9147145]

>>9147137
>>9147138
Why are you saying deoxit is audiophile stuff anyway? It's cheaper than stabilant.
Don't tell me you didn't read my post and assumed I bought the screenshot

[Anonymous No.9147153]

>>9147145
It's not, 5ml kit for 30ml is 45eur

>Don't tell me you didn't read my post and assumed I bought the screenshot
I know all those by heart, anon

[Anonymous No.9147159]

>>9147145
You really are dumb, uh.

[Anonymous No.9147182]

>>9147159
You're right I'm dumb, I might have bought the wrong stuff. D series is cleaner, G is enhancer.
Good thing I still can cancel the order.
Now, if you know so well, what should I buy, if not the deoxit gold?

[Anonymous No.9147193]

>>9147182
I never claimed I know it well, but I know enough.

[Anonymous No.9147197]

Boss said I couldn’t have the PVM sitting in a pile of trash in the storeroom. Guarantee it’ll eventually end up in a dumpster somewhere.

[Anonymous No.9147212]

>>9147182
Stabilant 22 is actually fine but mostly overkill, good for planes where regulations matter and environment is rough
Otherwise there's a lot of common brands that have cleaners + protectors that are good value that are also plastic safe

[Anonymous No.9147213]

>>9147197
Why?

[Anonymous No.9147214]

>>9147182
>>9147212
You can list some that are available for you locally if you want input
I have no idea what you can get there since you said there's barely anything

[Anonymous No.9147235]

>>9147069
ok then dont even give it a try even though the cable is cheap i guess.
Also you calling me a spammer makes me angry, call me a retard or something all you want but you quite literally post the same shit with your touhou pics in every thread about crts on g every time always the same general stuff atleast i post crt pictures instead of random marisas

[Anonymous No.9147237]

>>9147213
Not to sound bitter but she’s an idiot.

[Anonymous No.9147248]

>>9147212
Anon, cleaners and such do jack shit to this. Not only are the connectors already clean (very scratched though), I've re-coated them with solder. At least partly, it's bit messy. That improved it a lot, but it's not perfect yet.
I actually want something overkill. To get the last resistance out of the system.

I think I found the website you were looking at, https://www.micro-tools.de/ . They ship to Finland with 6.0€, which is pretty good.
But they just don't seem to sell G100L 1.6ml, only 7.4ml which would cost me 39€.
From amazon.com 1.6ml would cost me 25€.
Genuine stabilant would be 53€ total.
Though according to this http://store.caig.com/s.nl/ctype.KB/it.I/id.1977/KB.215/.f I'd want the deoxit. The F520's problematic edge contacts get disturbed a lot as it's part of the mechanical support for the video board.

Any other european websites that don't like to show up in search results?

>>9147214
There are none. Enhancers, that is.

[Anonymous No.9147254]

>>9147248
have you ever thought about soldering a vga cable to outside the input board?
may be a not so clean solution but if the signal board is a pos it might be smart to get rid of it

[Anonymous No.9147257]

>>9147254
Just fuck off ranfag, you're never helpful

[Anonymous No.9147265]

>>9147257
you can give your f520 to me and i bet it would be fine with bnc inputs
also that little ringing is nothing why dont you just ignore it?

[Anonymous No.9147267]

>>9147248
Enhancers won't help if you already ruined the contacts with solder, I have no idea what you're doing at this point
Stabilant 22 if you want enhancer or any cleaner + protector that's plastic safe for general usage, but neither will help you since your contacts are uneven now, at this point you might just want to solder the contacts together instead

[Anonymous No.9147273]

>>9147267
also yeah putting solder onto pins what are you doing nigger crt doesnt care if the pins are scratched

[Anonymous No.9147274]

>>9147267
That anon is perfect target for shilling and marketing. Never be used decent contact cleaner but claims it doesn't help and buys the most expensive snake oil instead. I'd bet it's a zoomer, the mentally is literally zoomer tier.

[Anonymous No.9147281]

Thank Reddit for meeting CRTs so now even the dumbest zoomer who has no idea what he's doing is messing around with them
Lucky guy who got rid of a partially working F520 for 250eur, only good thing this meme has caused is being able to sell our old trash to retards

[Anonymous No.9147282]

>>9147267
I can always remove the solder. And the monitor has already managed to scratch a lot of it off ...
There's lots of the original contact available, this kind of bullshit doesn't entierly coat the contacts.
>at this point you might just want to solder the contacts together instead
I'd rather avoid that until everything else has been tried.
Also that's gonna be an absolute pain the ass to do, assuming it's even possible to put this monitor back togheter with the video board permanently attached.

>>9147273
It worked retard

[Anonymous No.9147290]

>>9147282
maybe get a monitor with a pre attached vga cord these dont have ringing issues and are quite decent

[Anonymous No.9147301]

>>9147282
Removing won't be easy, at least not in a way to get a fully flat surface, enhancers work by having conductive materials inside them, like thermal paste but for electricity, you want the gap to be the smallest
You might be able to sand the surface once you remove the solder to get rid of most unevennesses

Still don't think it will make a difference though, proper clean with something rough and cleaner+protector should have done the trick and given you the same resistance in the end

[Anonymous No.9147319]

>>9147290
You absolute fucking retard, you might have forgot that I own the almost exact same AOC rebarge piece of shit garbage monitor as you.
And let me tell you, it has the exact same overshoot as this F520, except it just doesn't run at 137khz so it's not very separated from the primary signal. When I run this F520 at 1200p75hz, the overshoot is almost entierly gone, and MUCH BETTER than on the AOC. Your piece of shit doesn't even regulate its voltage.

>>9147301
>Still don't think it will make a difference though
Well, there's no way to know until I test it.

They have this 2ml tube though, gonna be an absolute pain in the ass to apply but at least it's a lot less money to have wasted in case it doesn't work...
https://www.micro-tools.de/en/Contact-Enhancer/Caig-DeoxIT-GOLD-Liquid.html

[Anonymous No.9147323]

>>9147319
yes it does regulate voltage and its quite decent

[Anonymous No.9147354]

>LTT makes video about wide-screen HD TVs
>suddenly it's the new norm for muh retrogaymen
It's a fucking joke of a world

[Anonymous No.9147359]

>>9147354
Retro hivemind is driven by stupid youtube videos. Prices alone should make this obvious.

[Anonymous No.9147361]

>>9147359
Prices are fine tho? Even that dude got two of em for 20 bucks.

[Anonymous No.9147363]

>>9147359
>>9147361
Only on local sites, on global eBay it's fucked, meme prices

[Anonymous No.9147374]

>>9147319
>When I run this F520 at 1200p75hz, the overshoot is almost entierly gone, and MUCH BETTER than on the AOC.
Then just run it at that and be happy instead of buying all this snake oil and ripping the monitor apart.

[Anonymous No.9147380]

>>9147374
He can't bear the fact that there's people with literally free monitors that have a better picture than his at the same resolution

[Anonymous No.9147385]

>>9147380
My old F520 was free too and that was only a few years ago, price has little to do with it, it's how much you bother looking.

[Anonymous No.9147386]

>>9145914
No it’s stupid.

[Anonymous No.9147387]

>>9147354
there's a guy selling 1080i max 32"widescreen crt for $100 near me, tempted to get it for ps3/360 era stuff

[Anonymous No.9147393]

>>9147387
People give that shit away in excellent condition here

[Anonymous No.9147394]

>>9147380
hes a retard he wants ecelebs to make more videos about crts so crts are kown better even if that means the price will go up.
total dick

[Anonymous No.9147395]

>>9147387
For PS3/360 I'd get a sweet spot plasma with low latency and 1080p60 support and HDMI that can do native 60Hz.

[Anonymous No.9147413]

Jewtube recommended me this video with this gormless retro enthusiast and I'm fairly sure it's because of these damn crt threads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvzVLFnwAMc

[Anonymous No.9147414]

>>9147393
not here unfortunately
>>9147395
if i was going to buy a flatscreen id just splurge on an oled desu, but im interested in a widescreen crt for hd media

[Anonymous No.9147434]

>>9147374
>>9147380
I didn't buy a damn GDM-F520 to use it at 96khz. Got a bunch of nice monitors that can do that already.
Also, are you anons really saying I should leave this unique monitor to rot just because fixing it might cost a whopping 15€? If you owned of these, wouldn't you want to make it run as well as it can, even just to witness the absolute peak of monitor technology?

>>9147385
>price has little to do with it, it's how much you bother looking.
If getting F520's was that easy, everyone would have one.
I took the one opportunity I was given.

[Anonymous No.9147435]

>>9147414
You can't find any OLED for a reasonable price that also does 60Hz better though. For 120Hz? No competition, OLED any day, worth the price.

[Anonymous No.9147438]

>>9147435
Didn't the BlurBusters guy even say OLEDs are better for motion now?

[Anonymous No.9147440]

>>9147438
He did, but that was about 120Hz. Look it up, I'm not here to argue.

[Anonymous No.9147439]

>>9147438
Only the CX since all the OLEDs since are a lot worse at BFI

[Anonymous No.9147445]

>>9147434
>If getting F520's was that easy, everyone would have one.
>I took the one opportunity I was given.
Majority of people are incapable of doing so for various reasons, there's still people here right now who think that free CRTs in Europe don't exist.

[Anonymous No.9147448]

>>9147434
Nobody said that? Only that you overpaid and that your methods of "fixing" are counterproductive. Don't make shit up now.

[Anonymous No.9147450]

>>9147434
>If getting F520's was that easy, everyone would have one.
>I took the one opportunity I was given.
I wanted one, found one for free, later gave it away for free since I didn't need it anymore. Put some effort into it.

[Anonymous No.9147452]

>>9147413
At least he seems reasonable and not redditor tier zoomer

[Anonymous No.9147473]

>>9147435
are you retarded? my point was that i want a widescreen crt, not a flatpanel

[Anonymous No.9147490]

>>9147473
then why did you mention OLED? or why cant anons reply about that part of your post?
are you maybe retarded or with severe asperger's?

[Anonymous No.9147495]

>>9147490
because that other anon suggested a plasma
too hard for you to follow a reply chain?

[Anonymous No.9147497]

>>9147495
why didn't you ignore it then instead of bringing up oled? lol

[Anonymous No.9147509]

>>9147497
>coping and pretending he's not retarded
have a great day anon, and good luck

[Anonymous No.9147510]

>>9147434
>are you anons really saying I should leave this unique monitor to rot just because fixing it might cost a whopping 15€?
I mean from my view I don't think using deoxit is going to fix this issue if you're being this pedantic about said issue, it might fix it sure go ahead and try it but its probably not going to change much and if you've already got loads of other monitors than that's the problem really. You want this monitor for a single specific purpose and its not 110% perfect at doing it, but you paid 250 euros so you don't want to accept you probably can't fix the microscopic issue it has that someone else might not even see with their own eyes, you paid so much you want it to be absolutely brandspanking.

[Anonymous No.9147518]

>>9147509
I didn't post about the oled or plasma

[Anonymous No.9147520]

>>9147518
I did but I don't bother arguing with faggots, was just a discussion, you know, what this place is for.

[Anonymous No.9147524]

>>9147520
>I don't bother arguing with faggots
based

[Anonymous No.9147549]

>>9147448
>counterproductive
In what way? I have managed to make it much better than it was, without doing anything permanent to the monitor.

>>9147445
Yea I've found 20-inchers for free, but I don't think stumbling accorss a free F520 is very likely in this day and age. Sure, it'll happen sometimes to some people, but we call that "luck" in the industry.
I was already lucky enough to get this one.

>>9147450
I think I'm putting quite a lot of effort into it, considering the money spent and fixes attempted. In one way or another, I'll end up with a perfect F520.

>>9147510
>using deoxit is going to fix this issue if you're being this pedantic about said issue
It has fixed it for other people.
>you don't want to accept you probably can't fix the microscopic issue
Considering the success I've already had improving it, I very well might be able to figure it out.
picrel
>you paid so much
I don't think it's that much though. To me anyway.
Half the fun of CRTs is tinkering with them, and this F520 has given me hell of a riddle to work on. I love CRTs so much.
>you want it to be absolutely brandspanking.
It's an F520. It has no right to be anything short of perfect.

[Anonymous No.9147593]

>>9147549
>considering the money spent and fixes attempted. In one way or another, I'll end up with a perfect F520.
Yeah you've got sunk cost fallacy

[Anonymous No.9147618]

>>9147387
>>9147473
>I want a widescreen crt
Funny how everyone wants a wide-screen CRT now, after a channel with over 10mil subs made a shitty video about them

[Anonymous No.9147627]

>>9147618
ive been interested in them for at least a year and a half now but they don't pop up very often in my area, not everything fits neatly into your worldview anon

[Anonymous No.9147640]

>>9147593
The point was I'm waay more likely to get this monitor working before I find any for free ...

[Anonymous No.9147662]

>>9147549
>very likely
very unlikely*

[Anonymous No.9147789]

>>9147640
but the monitor is working id just use it as is.
atleast try using a bnc cable and if that fixes the issue you stop being a retard ok?

[Anonymous No.9147832]

>>9147789
There's nothing wrong with trying to fix it to its original state. Just because anon doesn't have the experience to do so doesn't mean it's wrong to try, it's their monitor.

[Anonymous No.9147869]

>>9147789
I'm gonna bet BNC wont do shit.
Also the monitor in its current form is worth it only for counter-strike which I don't play currently.
Even once I do fix it, it wont dethore my NEC for most of my CRT usage.

>>9147832
>its original state
You probably meant intended state. This issue is very common to F520's, this is their original form.
And yes, I'm far too inexperienced to fix the mistakes of Sony engineers. If you have ideas, post them. Help is what I came here for, but all I got was /vr/-tier "check the cables lol" advise. At least nobody has told me to recap this yet.

[Anonymous No.9147875]

>>9147869
probably but it cant hurt to try bnc

[Anonymous No.9147904]

>>9147875
Costs more than these contact enhancers anons have been seething over.

[Anonymous No.9147913]

>>9147904
i have multiple BNC cables from Monitors I picked up, guess i got lucky with the sellers including the original cables

[Anonymous No.9147931]

>>9147869
It's not universal, some worked perfectly fine out of factory.

[Anonymous No.9147932]

>>9147904
You can find them for 3 EUR a pop used

[Anonymous No.9147936]

>>9147869
>"check the cables lol"
You're calling it retarded but you've not done it, you just refuse to do it and rule it out like anyone else would. Gonna look really silly if you do and that works, bet you wouldn't even mention it to anyone out of embarrassment if it did. Rule out the simplest things before diving head first into the monitor and tearing it apart, not a retarded idea.

[Anonymous No.9147938]

>>9147936
Bet if it's BNC and works, anon won't mention it

[Anonymous No.9147945]

Can the retards fuck off already? Same shit happened in /g/ with the comfy CRT threads, now it's being forced on /vr/, perfectly fine thread is all shitposting a "cope", "seethe" and so on now.

Spoiled zoomer brats ruin all threads, even in the slow boards now.

[Anonymous No.9147948]

>>9147938
Touhou anon is a kike who wants ecelebs to drive up crt prices

[Anonymous No.9148050]

>>9147945
Amen

[Anonymous No.9148149]

>>9147452
Yeah that's why I posted as he showed interesting info on how to service a TV instead of shit like LGR who makes videos just to show what he has.

[Anonymous No.9148208]

>>9148149
Yeah true, it's sad that the channels with lots of subs are literally useless trash

[Anonymous No.9148658]

do you guys rip your own physical media? it's hard finding good 480p content with plenty of seeders these days. my ps3 with movian can't play any 1080p rips for shit too

[Anonymous No.9148715]

>>9148658
not yet but once i get over my vhs autism i'm going to start collecting dvds and will probably rip a bunch of them

[Anonymous No.9148789]

>>9148658
480p sucks, use 480i, you don't want to interlace deinterlaced video again

[Anonymous No.9148943]

>>9147936
I did try absolutely everything with VGA.
Go look at the schematic, I see absolutely nothing that could affect one input but not the other, and in a way that affects all colors too.
IF ANYTHING, BNC could be even worse due how the monitor is constructed, there's an extra connection between the actual BNCs and the video board, while VGA is soldered directly to it. VGA has less points of failure in this monitor.
And, even if against all logic and evidence it somehow clears up from BNC, I'd still like to the get the VGA fixed.
Bought a BNC cable anyway yesterday, but it's gonna take a month to arrive. The audiophile snakeoil is going to arrive faster.

>>9147945
Now that you mention it, this thread's been pretty toxic even before I joined.
I'll definitely stay in /g/. Can you guys keep the ranfag though?

[Anonymous No.9148985]

>>9148943
>this thread's been pretty toxic even before I joined.
Lol no