/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9123565]

Even crash ‘n burn on the fucking 3do looks and runs better.

[Anonymous No.9123598]

*inhales* DAYTONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.9123602]

rent free

[Anonymous No.9123613]

Game is jank. I love racing games, I love the Saturn, I wish we had good racing games for Saturn. Even Dreamcast had a bunch.

[Anonymous No.9123631]

>>9123613
sega rally retard

[Anonymous No.9123638]

Play the championship edition, they fixed it. It's very close to the arcade

[Anonymous No.9123647]

>>9123598
DO DO DO DO DO DO DOOO DOOO

[Anonymous No.9123696]

>>9123638
It's worse.

[Anonymous No.9123791]

>>9123631
Rally is also jank, retard.
I just said Saturn had no good racers.

[Anonymous No.9123807]

>>9123791
wrong fag

[Anonymous No.9124027]

>>9123791
Sega Rally on Saturn is a great port of an amazing arcade racer. Either you've never played it or you're australia kun.

[Anonymous No.9124035]

>>9123638
The music is nowhere near as good

[Anonymous No.9124053]

>>9123638
Plays like shit.

[Anonymous No.9124113]

>>9123807
No, I'm right. The game is a mess.
>>9124027
Can you retarded zooms learn to read the thread before commenting? I'm not Aus schizo. I clearly stated above I love the Saturn, and that it's a shame it has no good racers. Yes, I've played Rally, I wouldn't say it totally sucks, but it's not good either.

[Anonymous No.9124115]

RORRRRRRING STARRRRRRRRRT

[Anonymous No.9124235]

>>9124113
>but its not good either

[Anonymous No.9124237]

>>9124113
>but it's not good either
This was considered good by gaming magazines at the time. You can clearly see Saturn sega Rally still holds up as it always was good.

[Anonymous No.9124241]

>arcade port machine
>first arcade ports suck balls
Saturn was doomed to failure.

[Anonymous No.9124252]

>>9124241
Sadly this. What the fuck were they thinking releasing better arcade ports on the 32x over Saturn?

[Anonymous No.9124260]

>>9124235
>>9124237
Play Top Gear Rally on 64. Now that's a fucking rally game. It's miles better and runs smoother. You would think a disc based rally game on Saturn would surpass it. No excuse the Saturn couldn't have decent racers. Like I mentioned before, even Dreamcast had a bunch of good ones.

[Anonymous No.9124292]

>>9124260
I owned Top Gear Rally. It looked like foggy shit and had no memorable tracks and had to use fake cars.

[Anonymous No.9124306]

>>9124292
You never got far in the championship. The tracks become modified, as do the cars. It gets intense very quickly.

[Anonymous No.9124307]

>>9124306
>the cars got modified
Into real cars? Because that's the sign of a good racer.

[Anonymous No.9124324]

>>9124307
autism

[Anonymous No.9124732]

>>9123638
They fixed the framerate and the worst of the pop-in but they destroyed the car handling physics to the point the game is damn near unplayable. I don't know what was going on at SEGA at the time, Touring Car was completely unplayable on Saturn like it doesn't make any sense how bad it is.

[Anonymous No.9124784]

when I was younger I thought GALLOP RACING was a real race car team

[Anonymous No.9124892]

Daytona is great

But on the lower end of great Sega racers

Sega rally is probably the best rally game ever made. Forrest is the best track I ever played ( high speed ring on GT being a distant second)

Outrun is probably the best racing game ever made

[Anonymous No.9125565]

>>9123565
This game was such an embarrassment for Sega and the Saturn even though it still played well. It seriously looks like shit, even for the time.

[Anonymous No.9125571]

>>9123565
>>9125565
Literally WTF are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.9125759]

>>9123613
sega touring car and nfs and sega rally and shit

[Anonymous No.9125767]

>>9123791
i bet ur favorite racing game is super mario krap 64

[Anonymous No.9125770]

>>9124260
>good racing game
>n64
you can pick only one, also top gear is shit>>9124237

[Anonymous No.9125837]

>>9123598
Basado
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q3UtUOBFvs

[Anonymous No.9126002]

>>9125571
These were bad graphics even in 1995.

[Anonymous No.9126013]

>>9126002
no zoomer

[Anonymous No.9126014]

>>9125767
I don't play bing bing wahoo cringe
>>9125770
N64 was full of great racers, as was Dreamcast. You're either a zoom or retarded or both.

[Anonymous No.9126016]

>>9126013
you’re the zoomer here. the port’s graphics was savaged by gamers and journalists alike, especially compared to ridge racer on the PSX.

[Anonymous No.9126408]

>>9126002
This really wouldn’t look so bad without the shit draw distance. I wonder why no one’s bothered to increase it on the SEGA PC release. A bump in resolution would be nice too.

[Anonymous No.9126467]

>>9123565
I loved using the cheat code to get the horse. it was so fast and it made the game buggy as hell, good times.

[Anonymous No.9126535]

>>9126014
>N64 was full of great racers
my sides, anyways, the n64 is pretty shitty for racing games, because of the low fps, shitty res and filters, all the racing games on it are either shit or better on other platforms ex:
hydro thunder, much better on dc

[Anonymous No.9126542]

>>9126016
>journalists said it was bad
>also journalits: virtual hydlide is a great game
kys and never speak to me again, daytona is great and still is

[Anonymous No.9126562]

>>9126542
Yeah it is but it looks like hot shit.

[Anonymous No.9126746]

>>9126535
Rush 1,2,3, California Speed, Cruis'n' 1,2,3, Beetle Adventure Racing, Extreme G 1,2, Wipeout, MRC, Hot Wheels and I could go on and on. The 64 was full of great racers. You're either baiting or a massive faggot.

[Anonymous No.9126820]

>>9126746
>and I could go on
Why don't you start with a quality racer. How the fuck does anyone consider Beetle adventure a good racing game? It's one of the wimpiest cars in all of existence and the tracks are all forgettable.

[Anonymous No.9126825]

>>9126746
If you play racing games on pad you need to stop talking on the subject.

[Anonymous No.9126826]

>>9126016
It's framerate was its biggest issue. I could forgive everything else if it just ran a little smoother.

[Anonymous No.9126827]

>>9126002
This track looks better than every n64 racing track despite its shitty pop up. See fzerox for proof as it has ZERO detail yet gets praised here for its comic book graphics.

[Anonymous No.9126828]

>>9126827
f zero x runs at 60fps with a shitton of racers on screen. trolling or just retarded?

[Anonymous No.9126829]

>>9126828
How does any of what you said relate to its bland forgettable tracks?

[Anonymous No.9126843]

>>9126820
Ok, now it's obvious you're just trolling.
Almost had me. Take your last
>(You)

[Anonymous No.9126860]

>>9126843
>thinks this is a cool race car

[Anonymous No.9127015]

>>9126828
Meanwhile Daytona USA is designed to support a maximum of 40 NPC cars on the track at a time with much more complex adaptive AI. I don’t know why people always fail to mention this when comparing it to other racers of the era.

[Anonymous No.9127035]

>>9127015
This is what they think looks better than Daytona.

[Anonymous No.9127046]

>>9127035
Virtua Racing looks and runs better than Daytona. Plays great too, shame it never came home to the Saturn in proper form.

[Anonymous No.9127054]

>>9127046
I didn't mean to post virtua racing. Doh. But yeah anything runs better than Saturn Daytona. I owned it for a day before swapping it to my mate for Sega Rally.

I never got into Virtua Racing. It's handling didn't feel as nice as Daytona but maybe that's because I was more a noob at that game and grew up playing Arcade Daytona.

[Anonymous No.9127060]

>>9127054
Daytona on Saturn runs like shit but plays like a dream. It’s still the best version of the game from a purely gameplay perspective IMO. I don’t know why running at 20fps is such a problem with this game but no one ever gives the like 70% of the N64 library that runs at that framerate (or worse) any shit.

[Anonymous No.9127064]

>>9127060
>20fps daytona
The problem is if you'd ever played it at the arcade it's a massive, massive downgrade. N64 games that ran 8fps usually had fun 4 player split screen to cover its janky ass.

[Anonymous No.9127089]

if anything, the saturn version has the same feeling physics as the model 2 port.

daytona 2001 is also good but that's because amusment vision were the best to ever do it

[Anonymous No.9127138]

>>9126746
half of them run like shit, and the ither half is better on other consoles, the n64 is pretty shitty for racing games basically because of the fps, I tried playing extreme g once, and in corners the game managed to drop bellow 10fps, so good luck with ur piss poor racing games. also the controller is shit for racing games, shittiest analogue ever made and no analogue triggers

[Anonymous No.9127146]

>>9127015
this is true, fzero is just, nothing in space, with what, 3 polygons and thats it?

[Anonymous No.9127148]

>>9127064
>8fps
>fun
you can pick only one

[Anonymous No.9127173]

>>9127148
>time running out
>you have the lead
>hide in vent, zoom in with rifle and blast away bringing the framerate to 0 as your mates desperately try to find and kill you
It doesn't get more fun. You have played the games you come in here to post about, right?

[Anonymous No.9127181]

>>9127148
>low framerate games can't be fun

[Anonymous No.9127190]

>>9127181
i dont understand but yes, low fps ganes are pretty shitty

[Anonymous No.9127193]

>>9127173
ive played better games than meme7 you faggot, games that run better and look better, just because you have ur retarded freinds in ur house playing that shitty game with u doesn't mean its good

[Anonymous No.9127467]

>>9127190
ZOOMERINO DETECTED LOL GET BAN XDD

[Anonymous No.9127487]

>>9127467
ok, you play ur 5fps games while I play my 30fps games

[Anonymous No.9127493]

>>9127487
ZOOMARIO COPE AND SEETHE AND MALD AND BALD

[Anonymous No.9127498]

>>9127493
but i dont like mario

[Anonymous No.9127794]

>>9123791
even though this is anonymous you should feel embarrassed

[Anonymous No.9127801]

>>9126002
>These were bad graphics even in 1995.

Daytona USA for the Sega Saturn still looked better than anything that came out before it on the 3DO or Jaguar. On PC, something like Nascar would be comparable. I owned Daytona USA for the Saturn, played it to death. It plays great. But the framerate is locked at a solid 20fps. The game has mass pop-in. It always looked a bit questionable. Daytona USA: CCE was made using the Sega Rally game engine. It does run at 30fps, has better draw in. But the vehicle physics is odd. CCE does also support 2 player split screen, and there was a NetLink version. I use to have a copy of Daytona USA Deluxe for the PC, which was a port of CCE. I never thought it was a bad game on its own.

[Anonymous No.9127805]

>>9127801
>Daytona USA for the Sega Saturn still looked better than anything that came out before it on the 3DO or Jaguar.
People weren't comparing Daytona and the Saturn to those platforms, but to Ridge Racer and the Playstation. I guess it did get a few months head start though.

[Anonymous No.9127812]

>>9127801
> Daytona USA for the Sega Saturn still looked better than anything that came out before it on the 3DO or Jaguar
Meanwhile, on 3DO…

[Anonymous No.9127817]

[Anonymous No.9127823]

hell crash ‘n burn was a launch title

https://youtu.be/fzT0HmaN-lU

[Anonymous No.9127825]

>>9127812
>>9127817
daytona still looks better, and the saturn version of nfs is better

[Anonymous No.9127830]

>>9127825
that is the saturn version, actually

[Anonymous No.9127835]

>>9127830
oh wait, nvm it is the 3DO version.

[Anonymous No.9127838]

>>9127825
How contrarian can you be? Look at this fucking draw distance.

[Anonymous No.9127870]

>>9127830
>>9127835
retard

[Anonymous No.9127876]

>>9127838
you massive faggot thats emulator footage I've played daytona since ages and always in 1st person and the walls don't disappear like that, go spread ur faggy webm elsewhere

[Anonymous No.9127879]

>>9127876
or maybe bc its the us version, I own the pal version and its not that bad. weird because I had the same problem with wing arms, the ntsc version has shitty draw distances compared with the pal version

[Anonymous No.9127887]

>>9127876
>that’s emulator footage
I recorded it directly from my Saturn you colossal retard.

[Anonymous No.9127913]

>>9127887
well thats not how i remeber it

[Anonymous No.9127969]

>>9127805
>People weren't comparing Daytona and the Saturn to those platforms, but to Ridge Racer and the Playstation. I guess it did get a few months head start though.


Daytona USA (1994/1995 Saturn port):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D5VHJAE5io
Ridge Racer (1994/1995 PS1 port):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D5VHJAE5io

They are two very different arcade styled racers. Daytona USA in the arcades mogs Ridge Racer arcade with its model 2 arcade hardware. Ridge Racer used some hardware that was based on the PS1?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwI7e9gwUZ8&t=137s

But as far as the home ports go...
Original Ridge Racer on PS1 (launch game)
https://youtu.be/tDjsKrUXKAg?t=36
Daytona USA on Sega Saturn (launch game):
https://youtu.be/9UqQJRMxy8E?t=111
Ridge Racer runs at a better framerate, 30fps, does have better draw distances. It was the first game released on the PS1, and showcased that the console had a lot of potential. The Saturn port of Daytona USA wasn't that bad. But it did help the PS1 look better. As the PS1 would get a lot more racers in the 30fps category. Though, Sega AM3 did do a remake of the Saturn port of Daytona USA, and it does look better, overall. Runs at 30fps, but has some issues of its own:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxa59W1d6lc&t=162s
CCE/CE was comparable to something like Ridge Racer Revolution. It does have two player split screen, more tracks, different soundtrack. It should be a better game all around. But the physics and handling is off. AM3 also did the Sega Rally port for Saturn. I think they did say that Daytona CCE was made with the Sega Rally tools/ engine.

[Anonymous No.9127975]

>>9127805
>People weren't comparing Daytona and the Saturn to those platforms, but to Ridge Racer and the Playstation. I guess it did get a few months head start though.

They are two very different arcade styled racers. Daytona USA in the arcades mogs Ridge Racer arcade with its model 2 arcade hardware. Ridge Racer used some hardware that was based on the PS1?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwI7e9gwUZ8&t=137s

But as far as the home ports go...
Original Ridge Racer on PS1 (launch game)
https://youtu.be/tDjsKrUXKAg?t=36
Daytona USA on Sega Saturn (launch game):
https://youtu.be/9UqQJRMxy8E?t=111
Ridge Racer runs at a better framerate, 30fps, does have better draw distances. It was the first game released on the PS1, and showcased that the console had a lot of potential. The Saturn port of Daytona USA wasn't that bad. But it did help the PS1 look better. As the PS1 would get a lot more racers in the 30fps category. Though, Sega AM3 did do a remake of the Saturn port of Daytona USA, and it does look better, overall. Runs at 30fps, but has some issues of its own:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxa59W1d6lc&t=162s
CCE/CE was comparable to something like Ridge Racer Revolution. It does have two player split screen, more tracks, different soundtrack. It should be a better game all around. But the physics and handling is off. AM3 also did the Sega Rally port for Saturn. I think they did say that Daytona CCE was made with the Sega Rally tools/ engine.

[Anonymous No.9127993]

keep in mind that daytona usa was originally planned for the 32x/svp ship, my theory is that daytona usa saturn was added to the saturn lunch at the last minute, and they just made the 32x/svp port look a little fancier but nothing much changed

[Anonymous No.9127996]

>>9127993
just like virtua fighter, was going to be a svp game but came out on the saturn

[Anonymous No.9128002]

>>9127993
>daytona usa was originally planned for the 32x/svp ship
the home port not the actual arcade game

[Anonymous No.9128248]

>>9127193
You don't even realise slowdown can increase the hype to certain games. And Lol at trying to make fun of me me playing split screen multiplayer the way these games were intended to be played. That's all the N64 was good for really.

[Anonymous No.9128291]

>>9128248
>You don't even realise slowdown can increase the hype to certain games.
massive n64faggot cope right there, I bought an n64 once, played some games, and what I've discovered was, they all run like shit, look like crap and sound like poop. ended up selling it and with the money bought games for my ps and saturn. the n64 is a crap console

[Anonymous No.9128698]

>>9128291
I was referring to other games as well not just n64 exclusives.

[Anonymous No.9128703]

Daytona USA Saturn port does perplex me. Because, it seems like a game that should have moved Saturn units in the NA market. The arcade game was a big hit. I live in Canada, there was a point in time, when I would walk into any arcade around me, and find a Daytona USA twin cab, or a 4-player set-up with two twin cabs. I have seen an 8-player Daytona USA set up. I knew a bar with a Daytona USA 'Turbo Edition' unlicensed hack. Sega re-released Daytona USA as Sega Classic Racing in 2011. The arcade machines did really well. I think it was more successful than Ridge Racer in the NA market. Daytona USA on the Sega Saturn didn't move units like Sega was hoping it would. Though, it was later packaged with Virtua Fighter 2 and Virtua Cop as a three game pack-in.

[Anonymous No.9128748]

>>9128698
idc thats a retarded take, fps drops don't improve games wtf

[Anonymous No.9128902]

>>9126860
Its not about the car but the tracks and Beetle Adventure racing delivers in spades.
>>9126825
Go take your metamucil and lie down grandpa.

[Anonymous No.9129094]

>>9128748
Slowdown and glitches certainly can add fun to games.
>>9128902
>cars don't matter in a racer
Quality racers have style. I'm sorry you play pad party games thinking their arcade racers.

[Anonymous No.9129431]

>>9128703
Only place I saw 8+ daytona cabinets set up was at was Sega World Sydney. Most arcades, pubs and cinemas had 2/4 cab set ups. Loved racing businessmen on their lunch break or chads going out with their disinterested girlfriends. Daytona truly was the king of kings when it came to racers.
>Saturn daytona port
Sega for whatever reason released one of the shittiest ports in existence with Daytona. I honestly believe a 32x version would have been better than what Saturn gave us.

[Anonymous No.9130465]

>>9123565
Stan from American dad used to play that game in the image.

[Anonymous No.9131970]

Draw distance was always pretty rought but it played and felt as close to the arcade as you could get for a few years after release though. I still played it a ton, trying to beat lap times, finding secrets etc

[Anonymous No.9131982]

>>9123565
ROLLING STARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!

[Anonymous No.9131985]

>>9123565
Sega racers are more fun.

[Anonymous No.9131990]

>>9131982
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.9131998]

What's the best/proper way to play this in the current year?

[Anonymous No.9132168]

>>9129431

The 4-player set-ups were fairly common around me in British Columbia Canada. 4 player was basically two twin-cabs side by side and linked together. The two-player sit down was the most common one. It was rare for me to find a single player Daytona USA cab. This was a game where the 2-4player aspect brought in a lot of repeat customers. Unless you had limited arcade space, it would have generally been dumb to not get the 2-player arcade cab.

[Anonymous No.9132656]

>>9131998
If you have to ask this, you are a massive faggot and should kys and don't belong on /vr/

[Anonymous No.9132661]

>>9131998
I like the XBLA/PSN port.