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911427 No.911427[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Did he scare you /vr/?
>that creepy music

>> No.911440

bump

>> No.911446

Did you notice that this Giygas image can be viewed in two ways? One is the twisted face, the other is a crouching figure that walks on fours (like a crawling Spiderman) toward the screen.

>> No.911448

Yuropean here, how did you americans figure out how to beat Giygas back then?
I mean, the game doesn't really tell you to use the pray command.

>> No.911457

>>911446
Also fetus.

>> No.911460 [SPOILER] 
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>>911448

>> No.911475

>>911446
Skinned thin dog jumping over blood soaked walrus heads

>> No.911478

>>911460

I can't even make out what that's supposed to be. A turkey with a chef behind it?

>> No.911480

>>911448
Another reason why Earthbound will never be one of my favorite games. There is no remote indication that "pray" is a valid option for anything in the entire game, especially considering it was used similarly in other jrpgs prior. Then all of a sudden
>use this to instant win the game!
>but..how was I supposed to know about this?
>...Trial and error?
>right..

>> No.911484

>>911448

Pokey tells you to go cry to your mommy when the fight lasts long enough.

>> No.911507

>>911448
>Yuropean here, how did you americans figure out how to beat Giygas back then?

Like Yuropeans, Nintendo Power.

>> No.911517

>>911427
I felt highly disturbed, but not scared.

>> No.912160

>>911448
Pokey's taunts were meant to be a hint, but I do think it was bullshit. I spent an eternity fighting him.

>> No.912197

>>911480
I feel trial and error, in some form, is kinda SOP for many video games, and JRPGs especially.

You encounter something new, and you use different attacks, spells, and items, then you remember what works for next time. It always isn't as obvious as using Scan or choosing fire magic against ice monsters.

It is kinda the point of that battle, and the game as a whole, though. After dying several times, the player gets runs out of ideas and tries everything they can, which makes desperately praying for help against the final boss so poignant.

Then Nintendo had to assume it's audience were idiots and put the strategy guide in every game box, ruining the moment by explaining it. >>911460

>> No.912205

Wasn't really scared, however the ending to the battle did tug on my heartstrings. That callback was brilliantly executed, and made for an incredible moment.

>> No.912207

>>911446
I don't see anything but a twisted face
you people are all underage

>> No.912215

>>911478
I can't make out what that particular image is supposed to be either... they must have just put every image from that thread into the rotation, even the ones that were pure shit.

>> No.912260

>>912207

Well, it's a profile perspective of a fetus, so.

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>>911478
>>912215

I think it's Aeris. Honestly, they should have let /vr/ keep the SMB1 question block, and changed /v/'s question block graphic to a more modern one. It would have made too much sense though, so they changed it to something you have to stare for a second.

>> No.912282

>>911448
I played it through last year and figured it out on my own. Basically after I exhausted all of my other options, I made Paula start praying to recover HP/PP. Even though I spent about a half hour battling Giygas, it still felt very satisfying when I figured it out. While a bit obtuse, it's definitely not impossible to figure out.

>> No.912284

>>912260
No it isn't.

>> No.912289

>>912282

That is probably what the developers intended. After you exhaust every option you fall back on the one thing that may or may not even do anything. Prayer.

>> No.912327

Funny that the first time I fought him I wasnt scared, but angry because I couldnt finish him off and nearly died before realizing that I needed to use Pray.
Actually at the time I didnt see the ~fetus~ or even cared about what he keeps saying to Ness, so the only real disturbing thing in Giygas was the battle song.

>> No.912332

>>912279
or picked something totally different, there were TONS of better images in that thread, I have no fucking clue what the mods were thinking when they decided that was the permanent replacement

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>>912284

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912473

I wasn't scared at all. What's scary about it?

>>912289
This is exactly how it happened with me.

>mrw

I only used Pray once before that fight and if I remember it correctly it fucked everything up and was awful.

>> No.912894

Not really, but this particular music tracks does give me a bit of the chills:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FRSyJnqJPc

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>>912460

18 years later, mind = blown.

>> No.912918

>>912197
>I feel its kinda SOP
except Earthbound did it badly. It wasn't "try this and see if it works", because if you try pray earlier in the battle, it does nothing. It HAS to be activated by the boss progression, which no indiciation is given. There is no scan to tell you that, and no other boss fight in the -entire- game had this "SOP" logic. Its not even about ruining the moment, it literally is bad game design by default (for this particular moment, mind you)

It didn't need to spell it out, but the game pretty much let you SMASHHHHHHHH every boss out of existence until giygas

>> No.912921

>>912460
This is right up there with that 'Aeris is a hooker' shit. You're seeing what you want to see. Believe whatever you want, but don't go spouting it as undeniable truth.

>> No.912926

>>912460
>>912906
Its not a fetus. The director flat out stated its not a fetus, and that was not intended.

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>>912921
>Aeris is a hooker shit
I blame this fucking doujin right here.
>never hear SHIT about this "fan theory"
>this doujin is released
>"HEY GUYS DID YOU KNOW FLOWER GIRL IS SLANG FOR PROSTITUTE AND AERIS WAS REALLY A HOOKER?"
There's not enough slaps in the world to rid the internet of this.

>> No.912937

>>911427
He scared the shit out of my poor cat. Him and the happy mask salesman freak my cat out. She panics and runs out of the room.

>> No.912961

>>912935
Good doujin though.

>> No.913009

>>912935
You obviously never spent much time on FF fan sites. The whole "Aeris is a hooker" theory has been around longer than Alice no Takarabako himself, much less that particular doujin.

She stands on a street corner selling flowers at night. Regardless of how you feel about the validity of the theory, it's not a huge leap to make, and people were suggesting it right after the game came out.

>> No.913027

>>913009
>and people were suggesting it right after it came out
An unpopular perverted assumption does not make it a valid "theory".
>she stands on the corner at night selling flowers
Exactly, she sells fucking flowers. She doesn't let Cloud ram her for buying a fucking flower.
It's clear AnT ran with the fucking theory, that doesn't make it any more valid than Tifa turning tricks to run Avalanche. Guess what, there's doujins about that too.

>> No.913030

>>913009
>it's not a huge leap to make

Oh yes it is.

>> No.913039

>>913027
I never said it was a good theory, I just said don't blame a 5 year old book for an idea that's been tossed around the Internet for 15 years. And AnT is far from the first one to run with it.

>> No.913157

>>912935
what doujin is that

>> No.913221

>>912926
[citation needed]

>> No.913235

>Aeris is a hooker

LoL do we REALLY want to get started speculating how RPG characters support themselves, financially?

Also isn't Aeris essentially homeless? She lives in a ruined church right?

>> No.913295

>>913235
No, she tended flowers there and lived with her adoptive mother a little up the road

>> No.913317

Giygas was supposed to be in mother 3.

>> No.913365

>>911427
It was deeply unsettling. Something that went further than our primal fear and into the fabric of reality. As if the whole universe was a blanket being shaken out while we feel the waves pulsing, casting off the unstuck, not knowing what could possibly wield such a force.

>> No.913408

>>911480

Your suppose to not be a bitch and persevere. That's the point of that battle. I fought with everything I had. Used every item. Everyone started dying off, and I had no way to rez them. All I had left was Paula and Ness, both without PP, and low HP. Paula's attacks were useless, and pray sometimes did good things.

So I prayed.

That's the point of the battle. Sorry it was 2deep4u

>> No.914196

>>913408
Agree. Desperation made me use pray cause nothing else was working. Tried not to use the guide until the moment later. Spoilers and such. If i realized everyone would shit themselves for this game years later i wouldn't have tore out the scratch and sniff cards.

>> No.914223

>>913317
You talking about that cut boss?
That wasn't Giygas, that was supposed to be the Masked Man fight.

>> No.914228

>>911448

Well, I had no guide myself, but I did recall an issue of Nintendo Power saying the Paula's Prayer command should really be used in emergencies. Considering how horribly he was fucking up my party, and with Pokey practically tossing out the hint, I decided to take a chance. Imagine my surprise when it actually hurt Giygas.

>> No.915783

>>911427
/most/ of the Earthbound music has a slightly creepy bent to it. Hell, event Onett, which has this overall cheery theme, still has a couple of discordant notes.

>> No.915798

>>912289
This. I kept fighting until the only way to get back the PP I needed was to pray and hope for the best.

>> No.915998

>>915783
Personally I found the majority of the music in the game annoying rather than disturbing besides the battle with Giygas.

example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq3Gd7nnFPQ

>> No.916020

>>915998
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq3Gd7nnFPQ
You are pretty dense if you didn't get that that whole sequence was a sendup of amateur game design.

>> No.916168

I never understood why people think his music is so creepy.

>> No.918379

No, because I am not a manchild.

>> No.918385

>>911448

Porky straight-up says something like "don't you have some psychic way of asking for help...go ahead and use it if you think it'll work, bwahahaha!".

also the game was bundled with a strategy guide, though i don't remember if it told you bluntly what to do there. haven't had a physical copy of EB since i was a lad.

>> No.918440

>>912918
Plus you can not tell giygas has infinite health without fighting him a long while until you figure out something is wrong.

>> No.919437

Not at first no, and not now either, but the first time I beat it was shortly after it's release and I was like, seven. It didn't really phase me then, but it did kinda sit in me and it just freaked me out one day in high school, but that was long ago.

>> No.921206

eh, it was creepy but people keep acting like it's the scariest thing in the entire history of games.

bit like how people act like earthbound is the best game ever when it's really just a below-average jrpg with above-average writing and atmosphere.

>> No.923143

>>911446
>a crouching figure that walks on fours (like a crawling Spiderman) toward the screen.
can't unsee

>> No.925416

>>912894
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FRSyJnqJPc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTQhF70AlnU

slowed down 800%

>> No.925495

>>921206
>above average writing
nope. it was pretty bad as well.

>> No.925508

>>911448
It was Ness and Paula left, jeff and poo bit the dust, last ditch effort to revive them, shit my pants when it did damage