/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.909542]

Just found out this title was recently added to nintendo's eshop! Should all totally get it!
Shining Force thread!!

[Anonymous No.909547]

Favorite character in the series? Mine's Gerhalt

[Anonymous No.909557]

>>909542
Holy shit. This'll tide me over until I repair my Mega CD.

[Anonymous No.909563]

AWWW YEA. Never played the gamegear one.

[Anonymous No.909569]

is final conflict on there? if not i don't care

[Anonymous No.909574]

Always found it weird how they only localized the second part of the story.
People who never played the first Gaiden (or CD), will have a hard time understanding a lot of references in this.

[Anonymous No.909596]

>>909574
i agree. But i think people should buy this to generate sales for a possible new game. Wouldn't that be nice? A new shining force that's turnbased strat?

[Anonymous No.909603]

Am i the only person who loved SF1 but hated SF2?

[Anonymous No.909606]

>>909596
Or a port of Shining Force 3 in its entirety.

[Anonymous No.909607]

>>909603
No, you aren't the only one

[Anonymous No.909612]

>>909606
>shining force 3 hd remake
ha, i can dream can't i?

[Anonymous No.909627]

>>909612
>>909606
There's a shining force 3?
Is it good?

[Anonymous No.909648]

>>909627
Are you kidding?
In the off chance you're being serious, yes, it's considered the best one. It's for sega saturn, split into three parts, parts 2 and 3 are japan only, but there's a translation patch.
Get it now and play it.

[Anonymous No.909738]

Oh man, my favorite game was the 3rd one, masqurin was my waifu

[Anonymous No.909752]

>>909738
>not having Sarah from Shining Force 2 as your waifu

[Anonymous No.909756]

Sword of Hajya is one of the few eShop purchases I don't regret. I hope Sega will port over the original game as well.

[Anonymous No.909763]

>>909752
Ever played Shining Wisdom? She ends up with Kazin.

[Anonymous No.909875]

After reading a review on the game I decided to play it. It is very good, considering it was on the game gear.

Also,
>Slade

[Anonymous No.909897]

Domingo and Peter are the best.

[Anonymous No.910108]

>>909752
>Forced to marry that &%^$&%$ princess instead of Sarah.

I nearly tossed my damn controller.

[Anonymous No.910119]

>>909648
>but there's a translation patch.
wait... there is?
I thought there still wasn't
when did this come out?

[Anonymous No.910164]

I've never actually played the shining force series because I never liked SRPGs that much... is it worth playing even with that in mind?

[Anonymous No.910176]

>>910119
like 2 years ago

[Anonymous No.910178]

>>909763
ever play shining force 2? she ends up with kazin.
Though if you play the europe version of wisdom which is the proper translation, she's miserable

[Anonymous No.910209]

>>910119
2 years ago, though i think not all of it was finished then, but now it's all done, though they claim they're still proofreading it making it perfect. Also they're making a patch for Feather
>>910164
if you don't like them then no. don't play them. Though you could try shining in the darkness, it's a dungeon crawler

[Anonymous No.910341]

can't wait for the feather translation

[Anonymous No.910365]

>>909648
Bullshit, there's no translation.

[Anonymous No.910370]

no you shouldn't buy some kilobytes

[Anonymous No.910376]

>>910209
well... I heard that SF is different than most SRPGs though... what I really hate about SRPGs is that they are allways just fight and story, fight, story, to me it feels like there is no actual RPG in most SRPGs

[Anonymous No.910389]

>>910178

Really? Tell more.

[Anonymous No.910390]

>>910376
oh well there's exploration between fights. and secret characters and stuff

[Anonymous No.910418]

>>910390
http://sf3trans.shiningforcecentral.com/

that website was actually my captcha, believe it or not

[Anonymous No.910424]

>>910209
i almost beat shining in the darkness and then something happend to the games memory and i lost it all. i think my little brother has that game now, fuckin pack rat

[Anonymous No.910450]

>>910418
why are you linking me?

[Anonymous No.910523]

>>910418
urrrm... why is the patch... an exe?...

[Anonymous No.910568]

>>910450
i felt like it. you were the chosen one
>>910523
you have to take the iso image (or a copy of the actual game disc) and it uses isoburn or somethin to create a file that you add to you iso/cue.
fuck i cant remember exactly. i believe theres instructions that tell on that site

theres also a website where someones doing a translation of the saturn version of policenauts
also dragon force 2

[Anonymous No.910584]

>>910365
http://sf3trans.shiningforcecentral.com/patch-instructions/

What was that you were saying?

[Anonymous No.910594]

>>910584
didn't i already post that website earlier in this thread?

[Anonymous No.911045]

Just bought it. Seems really cool. I'm mad as fuck that Sega has a better emulator than Nintendo's own GB games though. get your shit together for christs sake nintendo. Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.911068]

>>909574
It stands alone well enough. All the important plot points from previous installments are more or less explained in-game, as I recall.

[Anonymous No.911531]

>>909542
>people are buying a game gear game more than a sonic game?
>we need the call of duty audience


and then a sonic fps reboot involving a japanese soldier with a skin disease that can run a little faster than everyone else sells millions of map packs

it gets 10/10 everywhere for being a AAA cinematic roller coaster ride experience

[Anonymous No.911550]

Hey guys, I just beat Shining Force Resurrection of the Dark Dragon/notretro

I had fun with it, and I'm planning to play more. I'm going to play Shining Force CD after this, and maybe Final Conflict? I've heard Final Conflict is a direct continuity from the side stories and SF1, but its music and graphics seem a little... Underwhelming.

Is it a good entry in the series or should I just skip it?

[Anonymous No.911556]

>>911550
if you like the series then play final conflict, it's gamegear graphics. and it's areas and music from shining force 2. I'd say play shining force cd then shining force 2 then final conflict

[Anonymous No.911603]

I know a lot of people have had trouble getting the patch to work. So here's a torrent of the whole game, pre-patched.

http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/6951180/

Also, Medion is best protag. Just sayin'.

[Anonymous No.911670]

>>911068

All you need to know is what they tell you: in the first game, Prince Nick went to fight Iom but had his right hand petrified, so he can no longer wield the Sword of Hajya. In the Sword of Hajya game, you play as the soldiers who guard the sword, as Prince Nick goes out in search of a cure with members of the previous game

[Anonymous No.911682]

>>911670
and it never explains how he got it cured, but somehow it was all according to plan

[Anonymous No.911707]

>>911682

I guess it's easy to miss but that is part of the story.

Near the end, when the Shining Force defeats Warderer, Hindel releases Prince Nick (who they were going to sacrifice) and reveals he is actually Deanna's brother working as a double agent. With Warderer defeated, the curse that petrified Nick's right hand is lifted and he can wield the Sword of Hajya once more.

[Anonymous No.911716]

>>911707
which is odd because it's like nick planned all this shit.

[Anonymous No.911723]

I wonder if Final Conflict will ever make it there. It didn't even appear on CD.

[Anonymous No.911746]

I think Sonic was the old name for Camelot Software Planning who made the Golden Sun games. My interest is piqued.

[Anonymous No.911749]

>>911723
Final Conflict kind of deserves a remake, too bad it'll never happen in a million years.

[Anonymous No.911782]

>>911749
They all do, even the first one though it got a GBA remake.

Just put them all in the same package akin to FFIV PSP and we're fine.

[Anonymous No.911810]

>>911782
SEGA would never do that unless someone gave them an engine to use.

They really hate money.

[Anonymous No.911927]

>>911723
it will not because it doesn't have a translation

[Anonymous No.911954]

>>909542

Worst Shining force.

[Anonymous No.911985]

>>909542
I'm honestly LOVING this game myself. I wish SF CD wasn't so expensive. So I bought SF 3 instead...

[Anonymous No.911991]

>tfw you love Shining Soul 1&2 and got into the other Shining games because of them but everyone hates you for it

[Anonymous No.911994]

>>910389
isn't the Europe translation the more accurate one?

I heard the US wasn't as good and it's canon that Sarah doesn't reciprocate Kazin's feelings

[Anonymous No.912026]

>>911994
Yes

[Anonymous No.912070]

>>911603
looks like people are having trouble with ose pre-patched ones also

[Anonymous No.912079]

>>911991
As long as you didn't start with Shining Bread & Waifus, I'm ok with that.

[Anonymous No.912104]

>>912079
Bread?

Anyway as for me my first was Force I. I didn't even know it was a tactical RPG until the first battle.

[Anonymous No.912105]

>>911991
why would anyone hate you for that?
I think you are exaggerating... most people don't care about things like that

[Anonymous No.912140]

>>912104
Yeah, bread making is a thing in the most recent Shining games.
Anyway, not retro.

I think I started with Shining in the Darkness when I was a kid. I remember it being hard as hell and I never finished it (and later traded it for Sonic & Knuckles...).
My first "real" Shining play was with SF3, and I still have the original game. Fucking loved it.

[Anonymous No.912168]

>>912105
Remember how /v/ was?
This is why we left.

[Anonymous No.912170]

>>912140
Ya know, I enjoy good bread. And I'm totally on board with Tony Taka's lovely ladies baking some. But dammit, why must they keep putting the Shining name on things that have no connection to Force/in the Darkness. Get Hiroshi Kajiyama back in the artist's chair and Masahiko Yoshimura in the recording studio and make a real Shining game if you're gonna slap the brand on there.

[Anonymous No.912175]

>>912140
The only good thing about the current Shining games are Tony Taka's boner-inducing art.

[Anonymous No.912179]

>>912140
...and people complain about Toriyama's sameface characters.

[Anonymous No.912184]

>>912170
>Hiroshi Kajiyama

Oh baby.

[Anonymous No.912206]

>>912170
Actually, get Masahiko Yoshimura, Motoi Sakuraba, and Kikuta Hiroki to all collaborate on the music. They're all veterans of the franchise (and the music was the only good part of the ones Kikuta worked on) so between them, they should produce a pretty epic score.

[Anonymous No.912224]

>>912170
>>912175

Just hire Camelot and make it a 3DS/Wii U exclusive for it to work.

And no. Keep Tony Taka on. Just pressure him to make more original, non-fanservicey designs with more diverse facial features - at LEAST on the level of Attack on Titan if not something like 20th Centry Boys.

Also bring Phantasy Star's Rieko Kodama on board to make things interesting.

[Anonymous No.912239]

>>912179
They're recognizable. The guy's got a very distinct and memorable style.

AFAIK Tony Taka's style is exactly the same as Ragnarok's.

[Anonymous No.912251]

>>912224
camelot is too busy making mario sports games these days, since Golden Sun 2 completely bombed it's pretty unlikely we will ever see another RPG from them

[Anonymous No.912256]

>>912251
golden sun 3 I meant

[Anonymous No.912265]

>>912251

That's a good thing, since the stories of Golden Sun 1 and 2 were absolute garbage, and Dark Dawn was even worse.

[Anonymous No.912417]

>>912265
I thought GS1 was pretty good. I just couldn't stand the padded dialogue and EZ MODO battles. If someone could just hack those two flaws, it would be amazing.

[Anonymous No.912453]

How good is the Genesis Emulator on PSP? I've been thinking of trying out a few SF games but I don't want to play on a shitty emulator plus I don't know what games to get on it at all.

[Anonymous No.912480]

>>912453
It's really...really good. It even emulates Sega CD if you want to play some SFCD.

[Anonymous No.912613]

>>912453
You could also play the Shining Force remake for the GBA, which I hear runs pretty great on PSP.

[Anonymous No.912652]

>>909763

Who is the artist of this by the way? Tried to image reverse search it, but no results.

[Anonymous No.914067]

>>911746
Yes. Yes it was, they made The shining series which is most known for shining force.

[Anonymous No.914071]

>>912251
Camelot said they'd be on board to make another shining force if sega was willing

[Anonymous No.914078]

>>914071
... So it'll never happen then.

[Anonymous No.914265]

>>914078
Of course. Because what's his face, sawada, thinks americans called him gay when we tried to get the two companies back together

[Anonymous No.914272]

>>914265
Yea that whole thing was really weird.
>talk to camelot
"Hell yea sounds great we'd love to work on this series again."
>talk to sega of america
"sounds fantastic but we can't make the decision"
>talk to sega of japan
"what?! HOW RUDE I THINK THESE AMERICANS ARE CALLING US QUEERS! FUCK YOU AMERICA"

Like seriously they thought were were insulting them. Wierdest misunderstanding ever.

[Anonymous No.914276]

>>914272
Why is it impossible for Sega America and Sega Japan to get along?

[Winky !!Fqb6VRfECMB No.915174]

>>912206
Imma let you finish, but Motoaki Takenouchi was the best Shining Force musician of all time. OF ALL TIME. Just listen to dat shrine music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6fNJTvbM9g

God damn you people, how can you allow such an oversight? He only did the amazing soundtracks for SFII and the first two GG games + CD. Sakuraba did good work for III, but it's genuinely unmemorable compared to what's in SFII or, from around that time, FFT.

And Tony Taka can suck it. He's gotten lazy and basically does borderline hentai for a killing, while other doujinshi artists have their work cut out doing interesting, novel illustrations all the time.

>>914272
This needs to be fixed somehow, if ever at all. They're kind enough to put Shining Force games on the VC but not enough to do something about III? God, there's no hope for SoJ. Forever fucked up.

[Anonymous No.915262]

>>914265
>>914272
Pretty sure that was just trolls on 2chan pretending to be sega employees.

[Anonymous No.915698]

>>915262
no. that was our response to sending emails to sega of japan.
the SOS campaign

[Anonymous No.915706]

>>915262
It was Sawada's official twitter.

[Anonymous No.918540]

Holy shit this game looks terrible, is this really the best the 3ds can do?

[Anonymous No.918571]

>>918540
No, but it IS the best the Game Gear could do ~20 years ago (holy shit I feel old now). It's just an emulation, not a remake.

[Anonymous No.918592]

>>918540
Game Gear was basically just a portable sega master system.

Play Shining Force CD instead. It's the whole GG series remade with better graphics, sound and music.

[Anonymous No.918630]

>>918592
>better music
Understatement of the century. Shining Force CD's soundtrack is orgasmic.

[Anonymous No.918641]

Shining Force 2 was pretty amazing when I played it as a kid. The only JRPG that I liked (didnt had random battles).

Really, I had this friend who played tons of JRPGs on playstation 1 and I tried to play those but couldnt. Every two steps you had a random useless battle that you couldnt even avoid. At least all SF2 battles were set at specific places and didnt happen all the fucking time.

[Anonymous No.918732]

>>918641
Sounds like you're a fan of SRPGs.

[Anonymous No.918918]

>>918592

Actually the Game Gear had superior hardware to the SMS, that is why it was able to play games using an SMS converter, but no such device existed to play Game Gear games on an SMS. It wasn't capable of playing Game Gear games at all.

[Anonymous No.919915]

>>918918
there was a converter actually

[Anonymous No.920054]

>>918732
Could be. I played, I think, Tactics Ogre, and I quite liked it.
BTW, anyone knows good SRPG titles that I should play?
AFAIK some of the best were tactics ogre and final fantasy tactics

[Anonymous No.920060]

Is there a game gear emulator for the GBA?

[Anonymous No.920167]

>>920054
Langrisser, Fire Emblem, Front Mission, there's a huge amount of good SRPG series.
I'm also a fan of Valkyria Chronicles and Soul Nomad, that, while not retro, are worth mentioning.

[Anonymous No.920286]

>>920167
Thanks friend
Will check those out

[Anonymous No.920297]

>>919915

Show me a converter that allows the SMS to play GG games, because I have never seen one and I've been in the SMS/GG scene for a long time. If it's a third-party device introduced in recent years then maybe I can see it, but even searching all of my databases for such a device has turned up nothing. So really, show me. I actually want to see it if it exists.

[Anonymous No.920763]

>>909547
the guy from the witcher?

[Anonymous No.920765]

>>920060
game gear emulator for the gba? No. The GBA isn't powerful enough

[Anonymous No.923003]

>>910341
They're actually trying to translate that? I always wondered why it wasn't localized, I bought the artbook at barnes and nobles, it was translated.

[Anonymous No.923015]

>>909542
What is this game? I have a 3ds, is it any good? Never heard of Shining force before.

[Anonymous No.923053]

>>923015
Why don't you just watch a playthrough of it on YT?

I've never played Fire Emblem but from the glimpses I've seen of FE, I think the two can be compared. Or at least compared with FFT.

[Anonymous No.923727]

I wan't this on my Mega CD so bad. But 90 bucks? Jesus christ almighty.

[Anonymous No.925079]

>>923053
Why would I watch someone just playthrough the game? Going by that mentality why ever play video games?

[Anonymous No.925087]

>>925079
Video games suck, you should do something more productive with your time.

[Anonymous No.925216]

FEDA is better.

[Anonymous No.925257]

>>925216
Never heard of it.

[Anonymous No.925271]

>>925257

Look up FEDA The Emblem of Justice. Like Shining Force but better in every way. There's a translation patch I don't really like that much, but the game's great.

[Anonymous No.925296]

>>923015
Basically, imaging a Fire Emblem game with simplified gameplay and silly plot and characters. And the gameplay is rather slow.

[Anonymous No.925484]

>>911716
He did.
He knew about Hindel from the start and co-op'ed with them.
He also pulled the wool over Guardiana and got them to help him willingly.

Nick is a clever bastard.

[Anonymous No.925487]

>>915706
Sawada is such a faggot, man.
Someone kill him along with rotanigger, iWADa, and miyamoto.

[Anonymous No.925532]

>>925487
Unfortunately, most gamers in Japan prefer animu-style games. That's the only shit they'll play and outside of the usual mainstream franchises its the only stuff that sells.

[Anonymous No.925535]

>>909752
>not having May from SF2 as your waifu with her tight, pretty little pony vagina.

[Anonymous No.925552]

>>925487
Is there something wrong with the new games' art? I don't see it.

Do you guys hate Langrisser, too?

[Anonymous No.925556]

>>909547
Guntz motherfucker, mobile tank

[Anonymous No.925567]

So I beat SF1 and Cannot play SF3 because my PC sucks, what should I go to next?

[Anonymous No.925589]

>>925552
It's not just the art, it's the entirety of the games. Moderning Shining Force is a straight up anime game, with anime art, waifus, opening and ending songs, modern day clothing, magical girl shit, etc.

Imagine if Witcher 4 came out and it looked like Neptunia. That's kinda what it's like.

[Anonymous No.926990]

>>925552
>Langrisser
I think most shining force fans like that game though i've never tried it.

[Anonymous No.926992]

>>925567
Shining force 2.

[Anonymous No.926997]

>>925589
It's more like if final fantasy became neptunia. And not like slowly changed into that, like go from ff6 to neptunia.

[Anonymous No.927076]

>>925487
I just found out that /v/ actually likes the new games, but none of them played it and they just like the pretty pictures.
I hate /v/.

[Anonymous No.927094]

>>925567
If you played SF1, you might want to play CD and Final Conflict (in that order), since they are directly connected, and there's lots of recurring characters and themes.