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9066535 No.9066535 [Reply] [Original]

>Here’s your retro emulation handheld, bro

>> No.9066536

>>9066535
whats the problem

>> No.9066538

>>9066536
its not a ds lite

>> No.9066540

>>9066535
if you can shut off that bullshit in the bottom screen then I don't see the problem.

>> No.9066543

>>9066535
looks fine to me
but maybe get rid of the code

>> No.9066557

>>9066540
>>9066543
You can.

That said, the N3DS is surprisingly mediocre for SNES emulation.

>> No.9066559

Just use your phone

>> No.9066581

>>9066557
You’re thinking of old 3DS, new 3DS is fine for SNES, and even for PSX

>> No.9066590

>>9066581
No, I'm referring specifically to the N3DS. The only SNES emulators worth a damn on it either struggle with special chip games and sometimes Mode 7 (SNES9X 2005), have shit sound (SNES9X 2002), are missing graphical effects (SNES9X for 3DS), or suffer from some combination of the above. It's too weak to run a halfway competent version of SNES9X, such as SNES9X 2010, that doesn't have these problems.

As for PSX, it's not perfect for it, but indeed it runs much better than you'd expect, though that's mainly due to PCSX-ReARMed being hyper optimized for ARM hardware.

>> No.9066646

>>9066590
thanks for shutting up N3DS shitters. No reason not to go for a regular 3DS XL these days.

>> No.9066650

>>9066646
ips top screen, enjoy being shat on.

>> No.9066656

>>9066581
shit d-pad+buttons and a heavy af top screen that flops around due to slack in the hinge
p bad emu machine ngl

>> No.9066658

>>9066646
lolwut, the regular 3DS is even worse, it can't play most anything past 3rd gen well save maybe some non-special chip SNES games with SNES9X for 3DS.

>> No.9066664

>>9066536
it's not psp

>> No.9066680

>>9066590
Yeah, N3DS struggles with a lot of SNES games, it's why the official virtual console releases were N3DS exclusive and pretty limited in selection; no stuff with SuperFX or SA-1 add-on chips.

That isn't to say you can't enjoy a lot of games on 3DS-SNES emulators, but you have to reign back expectations.

>> No.9066695

>>9066680
It's just a shame, though, because it means you have to keep at least two if not three separate SNES emulators on hand to play most games decently. A good example of the travails of SNES emulation on the N3DS is FFVI. It slows down to ~45 FPS during certain scenes and especially when riding the airship with SNES9X 2005 unless you resort to frameskipping, runs full speed with SNES9X 2002 but has pretty bad off-pitch music and sound effects, and also runs full speed on SNES9X for 3DS but is missing some visual effects. Shit, even Super Mario World has issues now and then with these emulators. The current solutions are not ideal at all, and no one cares about the 3DS anymore so it's not likely to improve.

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>>9066535
>>9066557
>>9066590
>>9066646
just do virtual console injects retards

>> No.9066703

>>9066535
Why wouldn't you use the VC inject method instead for SNES games OP? I luv me some emulators, simple as, but if you have an official (or semi official) way of running these games, I don't know what's the point of using an alternative emu. It's like owning a PSP, but refusing to use POPStation for PSX games and instead opting for some homebrew that's way more convoluted and doesn't even come close compatibility wise... TL:DR - I don't understand you man, but I wish you all the best.

>> No.9066709

>hi all it's 2011 and I got a psp like you all said
>snes emulation is slow
>sound is choppy and full of static
>and there are graphical glitches
>and this is in SMW
>what gives

>what are you talking about
>psp is LITERALLY PERFECT for snes emulation
>you need to use [specific version] of emulator
>I have played every game on it and they were all PERFECT
>including special chip games like YI and Mario RPG

>I'm using the exact same emulator and I'm still having these problems

>then you must be doing something wrong
>everything is PERFECT here

>I'd like to believe you but I need proof
>can you post a video of your setup

>no way
>I'm not doing that
>you should take my word for it bro
>everyone knows it's true

>> No.9066734

>>9066590
At what point do you put the old Ds down and embrace something better? and cheaper?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOiWzK8oV7c

>> No.9066741

>>9066695
are these compatibility lists accurate?

https://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/Gbaemu4ds_Compatibility_List

https://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/SNEmulDS_Compatibility_List

>> No.9066745

>>9066695
Just play the GBA ports, they run natively

>> No.9066754

>>9066695
That 45 FPS (occasional) slowdown is not the end of the world, especially if you enable frame skipping. I’ll happily put up with that and use my existing N3DS with top notch build quality, rather than order some Chinese crap for $200 that might or might not be defective on arrival.

>> No.9066756

>>9066703
>>9066701
Is there something we’re missing or is OP a fucking retard

>> No.9066761

>>9066756
VC inject for SNES isn’t like VC inject for GBA. It’s still an emulator, and it has the same issues as already discussed ITT.

>> No.9066780

>>9066761
Yes it is a emulator obviously. And it cannot run chip games but it does absolutely not have the same frame rate issues as those other emulators you are discussing, the FF SNES games even got official releases in the Japanese VC store: https://youtu.be/40gY23W3XW8

>> No.9067047

>>9066780
im pretty sure the DKC VC version i have uses the snes9x emu, the menus look the same.

>> No.9067094

>>9066709
There are still people making threads for snes emulators on the fucking PS2 who will accuse you of being a snob for telling them their setup sucks in 2022. I played and enjoyed plenty of emulators on my PSP but it is delusional to say they are accurate. I just assume it is poorfags with no other devices capable of emulation.

>> No.9067098 [DELETED] 

>>9066538
doesn't the DS Lite supports Snes badly, in which you need a flashcart with an additional processor and even then it isn't screen and the screen sucks for it?
I remember trying CT on my flashcart on my DS Lite and it kinda sucked

>> No.9067103

>>9066538
doesn't the DS Lite supports Snes badly, in which you need a flashcart with an additional processor and even then it isn't ideal and the screen sucks for it?
I remember trying CT on my flashcart on my DS Lite and it kinda sucked

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>>9067103

>> No.9067119

>>9067113
Well, yeah, but I just loaded it to check if the Snes games were good on it, they weren't

>> No.9067136

>>9067103
The DS screens have a lower resolution than 240p meaning it can't properly display those games at all

>> No.9067140

>>9066559
disgusting

>> No.9067141

>>9067136
yeah exactly, it looked crunched. I don't remember if the performances were good or not, but the screen crunch was kind of a mood killer
A New 3DS is probably a pretty good emulation machine however and better than the DS Lite

>> No.9067150

>>9067094
>I just assume it is poorfags with no other devices capable of emulation.
I have a 512GB iPhone 13 Pro Max that I can use either with my DualShock 4 or my GameSir controller. I just prefer to use my N3DS.

>> No.9067151

Yes. I literally don't know what you're implying with the sarcastic meme. Are there better options? Sure, maybe, depending. Was it, and is it adequate for the job you're showing? Yes.

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9067153

>>9067140
retard

>> No.9067164

Is there an emulation for retards guide or something?

>> No.9067169

>>9067153
that looks so ridiculously autistic. like what the fuck lmao go to bed, clownshoe

>> No.9067170

>>9067153
yep its still disgusting. I'd rather play on my PC like a normal person.

>> No.9067172

>>9067164
>>>/vg/emugen

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>>9067169
>>9067170
Don’t choke on that copium lads

>> No.9067182

>>9067174
copium? dude you're too poor to afford an actual system so you're using a fucking cell phone to emulate. you cannot cope harder than that.

>> No.9067186

>>9067182
My MacBook Pro can easily emulate any system ever visited unto this Earth

>> No.9067197

>>9067172
grazie

>> No.9067204

>>9067186
>Mac
LMAO point and laugh at this retarded plaid-wearing hipster faggot

>> No.9067228

>>9067204
>Mac users are hipsters
Sweet, I found a time warp to 2008

>> No.9067229

>>9066590
>Not exclusively using VC injects
Sure, no special chip support, but everything else runs flawlessly. Why the fuck are you using any version of Snes9x?

>> No.9067239

>>9067197
make sure to bookmark the wiki. super useful

>> No.9067245

>>9067228
Mac users never stopped being hipsters. If anything they're more so than ever.

>> No.9067294

>>9067182
>nooo you can't reuse a $200 phone from 6 years ago with much more power than a 10 year old console
>you MUST buy a revision of a 12 year old console..because!


lol the 3DS came out when I was just starting college. I've had like 3 or 4 phones since then. The fact that you guys still think its perfect for emulation is funny. The entire point people latched onto it was because they probably already had it. I have a 3DS myself and I never bothered to jailbreak it because it didn't seem any better than a random phone outside of pirating 3DS games.

>> No.9067307

>>9066535
How long have you been doing this you asshat
Trying to push non /vr/ discussion into this board, you used to do the same shit with gba before the rule change too, didn’t you

>> No.9067309

>>9067294
>lol the 3DS came out when I was just starting college
okay
>The fact that you guys still think its perfect for emulation is funny.
who are "you guys"? i never said any such thing. i just think using a phone is mega gay.
>I have a 3DS myself
and yet you still bought a fucking controller attachment for a phone lmao.

>> No.9067323

>>9067309
You seem to think that owning a phone controller is some kind of outrageous act of autism. Have you seen a doctor about this?

>> No.9067330

>>9067323
>owning a phone controller is some kind of outrageous act of autism
you said it, not me

>> No.9067334

>>9067153
Why is the dpad in the wrong spot

>> No.9067341

>>9066756
I played Goof Troop injected and it couldn't do the effect of the the whole screen being black except for a circle around your character. I could see the whole level, breaking the difficult.

>> No.9067354

>>9066535
Why is it that every time someone wants to show off how much of a le retro gamer they are, they always, without fail, have to include a Japanese cartridge? Not even a Japan only release, but Japanese versions of games that got localized.

>> No.9067367

>>9067094
hey there, pi tranny
still missing the point, I see

>> No.9067368

>>9067309
>. i just think using a phone is mega gay.

Why?

>> No.9067371

>>9067368
if you have to ask, you'll never know

>> No.9067372

>>9067323
He's right, you know.

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>>9067174

>> No.9067585

>>9067153
oh that's actually pretty smart
that said i don't really care about portability myself

>> No.9067601

The DS and 3DS are the only good non-retro consoles (Xbox, GameCube and PS2 are not retro).

>> No.9067628

>>9067330
>>9067372
>>9067438
You fucking retards still haven’t addressed why shouldn’t I use the 3 year old flagship that I already have lying around, and is way more powerful than any Chinese device with an OLED screen to boot, and why should I order some crappy underpowered $200 handheld instead?
>inb4 moving the goalposts to “you shouldn’t play on a handheld anyway”

>> No.9067682

>using retroarch while open agb firm exist
>>9067601
>The DS and 3DS are the only good non-retro consoles (Xbox, GameCube and PS2 are not retro).
>stylus shit
>touchscreen
Kill yourself

>> No.9067691

>>9067628
if you can't figure out why a phone is a worse machine for playing games than a dedicated handheld with built in controls, you are too stupid to live and definitely too stupid to waste an explanation on. also
>way more powerful
lmao nope

>> No.9067707

>>9067691
My old phone has permanent physical controls since I never take it out of its very ergonomic and high quality clamp controller, so that’s some dumb shit you said right there. And if you don’t understand how a 3 year old flagship SoC blows any chinkheld the FUCK out, you don’t deserve to live, no offence.

>> No.9067721

>>9067628
>y-y-you
lmao. Take a deep breath little sperglord. And not of that copium you've been huffing.

>> No.9067725

>>9067707
>My old phone has permanent physical controls since I never take it out of its very ergonomic and high quality clamp controller
I wonder how many poop, breath, skin and cheeto dust particles are stuck between the edges of that high quality cuck clamp and your phone, since you never take it out.
>flagship SoC blows any chinkheld
your chink phone is not better than my chink handheld for playing games, you're just angry and mentally ill n' stuff.

>> No.9067743

>>9067628
the input lag you get from using an android phone and a bluetooth controller is unpredictable to put it mildly. if you have a controller that connects via usb it's probably fine, although there you run the risk of ruining the port.
phone+controller is a bit bulkier than most chink portables too.
phone aspect ratio is kinda shit for emulating retro games.
if you're fine with all that, just do what you want man.

>> No.9067774

>>9067743
Finally a sane anon.
Its not the best, but it isn't the worst. If you don't want another thing to do stuff on, phones work fine. But they aren't prime candidates.

>> No.9067780

>>9067628
Old ass nerds have always had a chip on their shoulder over smart phones in general. It got graduated into 4chan culture to hate on smartphones. You still have people proudly boasting about still using the most basic bitch phone from 2003.

>> No.9067820

>>9067725
>I wonder how many poop, breath, skin and cheeto dust particles are stuck between the edges of that high quality cuck clamp and your phone, since you never take it out.
LMAO are you okay bro?
>your chink phone is not better than my chink handheld for playing games, you're just angry and mentally ill n' stuff.
Show me a chinkheld that emulates Beyond Good & Evil full speed on GC
>>9067721
lol retard
>>9067743
I connect over USB, no risk to the port as it is never removed (you can plug the charging cable into a USB port on the clamp controller), no lag either

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>>9067820
>USB
>no lag

>> No.9067897

>>9067820
>LMAO are you okay bro?
you tell me, you're the one with the poop-phone
>Show me a chinkheld that emulates Beyond Good & Evil full speed on GC
>validate yourself to me
no. stay retarded.

>> No.9068008

>>9067860
>>9067897
Alrighty, so you both have room temperature IQ, s’cool

>> No.9068067

>>9067153
>Android
That's a yikes from me, lad.

>> No.9068217

>>9068008
you talk like a woman

>> No.9068254

>>9066658
Almost all the time I use my (old) 3DS it is to play DS or GBA games

>> No.9068310

>>9066536
The Dpad is a 5/10, and awkwardly placed.

>> No.9068509

>>9068067
Since when do iPhones run Android?

>> No.9068556

>phone emulation pajeet shitting up the thread
sirs...

>> No.9068565

>>9067150
No you don't to both. Don't bother digging up your older brother's shit in a poor attempt to save face either kid no one believes you. If you really wanna prove you're not full of shit post the following so I can do a background check.
>name
>address
>birth date
>sex(not gender)
>ethnicity
>social security number
>phone number
>mother's maiden name
Otherwise fuck off back to /v/ with the other underaged third word poorfags.

>> No.9068572

>>9068565
you're mentally ill

>> No.9068574

>>9068572
So you're full of shit. Got it.
>>>/v/

>> No.9068617
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I got this because I hated the dpad placement on the new 2ds. Its pretty nice
>It's over priced for what it is
Definitely is should be atleast $30 if not $50 cheaper
>is low quality
Nope, actually feels nice in the hands although it's rather heavy being made of metal, controls feel solid enough though and it's not to heavy
>a smartphone could play more for that cost
Yep, but I dont really give a shit PS1 and under is more than enough for a portable device with controls built in for the time being I just like the convenience
>why did you waste your money
I've used it quite a bit honestly, I like not having to worry about wifi or bluetooth for anything just power it on/wake from sleep mode and play. I got it setup to open my last played section on boot up to save time. Also got it setup to save state and close when I press in both joysticks. Use a gameboy micro sock cover to house it in pocket.

>> No.9068694

>>9067780
lurk other boards

>> No.9068724

>>9068556
>she can't afford a second phone exclusively for emulation
>she settles for less because it's a "DEDICATED DEVICE"
lol
lmao

>> No.9068927

>>9068008
You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18

>> No.9068938
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>retroarch

>> No.9068948

>>9068574
i'm not him
nor do i care to do it on phones
but you're still mentally ill

>> No.9069017

>>9068556
>Multiple people mention that they use phone emulation and are happy
>Autists completely sperg out and shit up the thread for no reason
>"N-nno... It's the phone pajeet that's shitting it up!!"
Are the pajeets in the room with us now anon?

>> No.9069019

>>9068617
nice blog I like

>> No.9069023

>>9069017
>I'm a mental invalid who does something stupid and retarded, WHY DOESN'T EVERYONE? WHY AREN'T PEOPLE BETTER THAN ME SATISFIED WITH MY INFERIOR SOLUTIONS??

>> No.9069030

>>9069023
Who are you quoting?

>> No.9069164

>>9068310
Use the stick then

>> No.9069441

>>9069030
>w-w-who are you quoting?
Not the anon you're coping to, but I'll accept your concession on his behalf.

>> No.9069452

>>9069017
Some emulators for smartphones are actually pretty damn impressive, my biggest gripe with most of them is the lack of a physical keyboard, so like some other anons said already, you'll need an additional controller. But if you already have a nice phone and a decent controller, it just werks, so why the fuck not? Same if you've got a DSi/3DS available at hand already and jailbreak it. Just use whatever it is you have available. I used to play SNES games on my DC, that was a major pain in the ass, I survived though and finished more than a handful.

>> No.9069458

>>9069441
It's not healthy to think you're multiple people, you might want to have that looked at

>> No.9069628

>>9069452
B-but you must use an emulation approved by ME! Or else y-you’re an autist!

>> No.9070206

>>9069458
>it's healthy to think everyone isn't laughing at you because your retarded and that it's just one guy

>> No.9070568

>>9066756
>>9066761
>>9066780
SNES VC on 3DS has far and away the lowest input lag (something which is never brought up for some reason, the retroarch ones are incredibly laggy) and has great sound emulation.

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>>9067153
>android emulation
enjoy your constant process priority interruption, though I doubt someone clueless enough to try this would notice

>> No.9070585

>>9070568
To expand on this, the 3DS injections definitely have spotty compatibility. SA-1 and SuperFX games are out, but the ones that do work are an excellent experience. Very low input lag (which, combined with the naturally low input lag of a handheld, results in a great experience), pixels are displayed in a native resolution vertically and doubled horizontally, which gives a pseudo scan line look which is fantastic for retro games. It does take some work to get going properly, you need to patch each CIA created with the injector with an SFROM tool with canoe specific patches, but goddamn it’s worn the effort.
SNES9x for 3DS the stand-alone (can also have injections created as icons on the Home Screen like VC games) is good for filling out the rest of the library, here’s a bit more lag and sound emulation isn’t perfect, but a lot of the games that don’t work on the VC are RPGs which don’t really suffer from the lag difference. On a New 3DS, SNES9x stand-alone can run everything other than SuperFX2 games at full speed, so for Yoshi’s Island you’re better off with the GBA version — native hardware support for GBA also means zero input lag once again, so you’d want that over the SNES9x deal anyway

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>>9070585
here’s a picture

>> No.9070626
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Here's my retro handheld

>> No.9070669

>>9070573
You realize that chinkhelds also run Android right?

>> No.9070678

>>9070585
>>9070594
Based and redpilled

>> No.9070795 [DELETED] 

>>9066680
Wow! Even N3DS? And i thought this shit only happens to older 3DS models.

>> No.9070818

>>9066535
But can it play Sega Saturn though?

>> No.9071226

>>9068617
that's cool anon I'm team 3DS but I can see why you chose that one, if it falls it might resist better than a hinged console and the dpad position is better
also no need to be defensive, if someone gives you shit for your choice just ignore

>> No.9071231

>>9068948
Uh huh sure. Bet you even reset your router to "prove" it's not you huh? Fuck off kid.
>>>/v/

>> No.9071239

>>9071231
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
yeah, you're mentally ill alright.

>> No.9071273

>>9066535
psvita is way better you normie

>> No.9071327

>>9071226
Nice yeah the 3DS is more than capable as long as it's not PS1 stuff you want to play although a few do work, also yeah this thing feels like those old school Nokia phones I dont worry much if it falls though once it hit a corner and scraped off a bit of the color it's a tiny spec youd need to be looking for though but the device feels pretty resilient.

>> No.9071372

>>9067367
Do I have a pi? Am I a tranny?

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>got a non IPS 3ds display

>> No.9071390

>>9069628
Me here. Please, send your setups so I can place my seal of approval.

>> No.9071456

>>9066734
i already have a 3ds though.

>> No.9071808

>>9066680
The N3DS SNES VC was limited in selection for a number of reasons. Most 3DS owners wouldn’t be able to play the games, the console was in its twilight years, and licensing issues. It took the Wii years to amass a respectable selection of games in its VC library. Time wasn’t on the N3DS’ side. Besides, nearly every non-special chip game can be injected and plays without issue. There’s no reason to use any version of Snes9x to judge its SNES emulation capabilities.

>> No.9071869

>>9066590
I wish the Vita was better. With that screen and buttons it's just wasted potential, it sucks people aren't interested in improving its emulation capacities.

>> No.9071891

>>9071869
Yeah, the fact that you either need to OC or use Adrenaline to run some GBA games is ridiculous. Maybe if it sold better and didn’t take a million years to see CFW drop.

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>>9071231
>Little Pajeet seethed and coped
>He called everyone samefag and kid
>This made everyone laugh at him even harder

>> No.9072243

>>9066734
powkiddy v90 is the way to go

>> No.9072445

>>9072243
Thanks, I'll stick to my N3DS with analogs and PS1 emulation

>> No.9072475

>>9070669
A lot of them use Linux.

>> No.9072484

>>9072475
You realize that Android runs on Linux right?

>> No.9072502

>>9066535
Based. New 3DS XL is unironically the best portable console ever and even natively it has a huge catalogue.
>bro muh eshop
Who cares dumbass pirate all the released shit and you'll still have a sizable amount of virtual console games and whatever was rereleased on eShop.

>> No.9072505

>>9072484
>Ermm ackshually
Shut up

>> No.9072523

>>9071971
I'm so angry right now! But I'll get over that. I swear, right here and now, that I shall become a millionaire and rub all of my money onto your ugly face! Leave your personal info so I can track you in the future.

>> No.9072672

>>9072502
Along with a DS mode flashcart and while doing GBA injects, you get native 3DS, DSi and GBA built in with no emulation. That's a pretty massive catalog of stuff to play.

It's my opinion that the best combination is a 3DS and PSP on hand. However the blindspot is SNES being spotty on both. If you can live without that, you have enough games to play for a decade atleast.

>> No.9073590

Why u guys picking sides, can't u just use whatever and be done with it?????????????

captcha: AYYYYY

>> No.9073617

>>9072672
SNES isn’t even spotty, I wouldn’t call very occasional slowdowns and imperceptible audio/graphics glitches “spotty”. You have to be a massive fucking lifeless SNES nerd to notice these. And it only even applies to SuperFX games.

>> No.9073619

>>9072523
>>9071971
>>9071231
>>9068948
You both should follow the nice men in the happy white coats

>> No.9074456

>>9073619
active shooter in 3..2..1

>> No.9074501

>>9073617
What's the best way to put SNES cias on my DSI?

>> No.9074515

>>9069164
The stick is trash. Fuck you for even suggesting it.

>> No.9074551

>>9074501
Retard.
>>9074515
Stick is actually good. Black man

>> No.9074554

>>9073619
says the guy who thinks everyone who disagrees with him is the same person

>> No.9074773

>>9074501
>SNES
>CIA
>on DSi
wut

>> No.9074796
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9074796

>>9066559
>>9067153
>>9067628
I don't know why you're always so autistic about smartphones in these threads, obviously flagship smartphones are multiple times more powerful, but some people have specific use cases where they don't need a top of the line device. I know I personally don't plan on emulating anything more powerful than Dreamcast on the go so buying a phone just for emulation would be a waste of money when one of these handhelds can do the same thing at a fraction of the cost, but don't let me stop you from keeping up with the Joneses.

>> No.9074906

>>9074796
>they don't need a top of the line device
So don't buy one? The idea of using your phone is that you already have it.
A $150 handheld is only more cost effective if you don't already HAVE a phone. Otherwise you're just throwing away $150.

>> No.9074908

>>9074796
>>9074906
I think most people who do phone emulation already have a couple years old phone that they don’t use anyway, so why not stick it permanently to a controller and use it as a retro handheld for fucking free?
Inb4 puerile responses to the tune of “but you look autistic with it in public!”

>> No.9074909

>>9066535
Thanks but I'm sticking with my Steam Deck.

>> No.9074927

>>9074906
>>9074908
Jesus christ who the fuck cares not everyone lives their lives the same way you do. Touch grass.
Going into every thread that could possibly be responded to with "BRO WHY DONT U JUST EMULATE ON YOUR PHONE" and doing so is peak faggot behavior. You're pathetic and you're obsessed.

>> No.9074981
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9074981

>>9074927
Excuse me? I only made a single post saying I emulate on my phone, which was followed by hordes of autists responding WTF U FUCKING AUTISMAL PAJEET. I don’t know what the fuck your problem is but the solution is pic related.

>> No.9074993

>>9074981
Then I wasn't talking to you, was I, you fucking moron? Do you get off on finding things to get annoyed about?
>NOOOO BUT YOU REPLIED TO MY POST
In this case we use what's called "context" to figure out what the post I made is talking about, then you can use that to figure out if I was talking about you specifically. Try that next time. :)

>> No.9075006

>>9074993
Thanks, but I make a point of not taking any advice from 35 year old balding men who play video games made for babies forty years ago.

>> No.9075007

>>9075006
Thank you for the free projection, I will treasure it

>> No.9075046

>>9075006
>35 year old balding men
how many times are you going to use this same insult? mix it up, fag.

>> No.9075109

>>9074551
>Stick is actually good.
No. Analog sticks feel absolutely awful for playing 2D games in the best of circumstances, and the circle pad sucks even for 3D games in the first place.

>> No.9075117

>>9075046
I'll mix it up once you get some finasteride

>> No.9075189

>>9075117
>imagine going bald as a 12yo

>> No.9075191

>>9075117
t. 23 year old balding manlet with klinefelter's

>> No.9075207

>>9075189
>>9075191
>projecting this hard
Just admit you lost kid

>> No.9075210

>>9075207
t. klinefelter baby

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9075223

>>9075210
You can only dream of being as handsome as me kid

>> No.9075227

>>9075223
t. klinefelt'ed

>> No.9075230

>>9072505
You realize your dick runs on linux, right?

>> No.9075232

>>9066664
i fucking hate the dpad on that thing.

>> No.9075250

>>9074927
Fucking cry about it, retard.

>> No.9075279

>>9074456
You'll be the first! I'm sick and tired of being made fun of in the internet. I thought I could be king of 4chan and make you all my friends, but I was so mistaken!

>> No.9075749

>>9074906
>>9074908
My current phone that I'm about to replace has shit tier battery life and a burned in screen thanks to AMOLED bullshit so no way in hell I'm going to use it for emulation, nor am I going to use my new phone for emulation or buy one just for it since I want a dedicated device for emulation and even mid tier android phones are overkill.

>> No.9075780

>>9075749
Shit blog post bro

>> No.9075789

The 3ds could've been so great if it had a normal, high quality 2d screen instead of the shitty low res 3d one. Could've just called it the 2ds out of the gate

>> No.9075792

>>9075789
It's too weak for anything higher res. Still, a 240p screen is pretty good for /vr/ gaming.

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9075816

>>9075780
>States android phones are overkill for my emulation purposes
>Doesn't have the attention span to read one sentence
The absolute state of education in India.

>> No.9075818

>>9075792
Does it not have to render everything twice for the 3d effect to work? I imagine there had to be a performance tradeoff there

>> No.9075830

>>9075818
Yes, the performance jumps noticeably in many games when switched to 2D mode. Some don't even run in 3D mode because of performance concerns.
The base spec was too weak IMO, they should have at least released the N3DS at launch instead.

>> No.9075842

>>9075830
The 3ds flopped at launch and that would've made it even more expensive. I think an improved ds would've been an easier sell, since most people didn't care about the 3d gimmick. Hell, they even said kids, the biggest audience for the ds, shouldn't use it much,

>> No.9075863

>>9075842
I'm sure nintendo had a safe margin on the 3DS at launch. They could have and should have buffed it.
Anyway they ended up releasing like a billion different models, including two without 3D, so it's moot now.

>> No.9075991

>>9075818
>>9075830
How is the 3D effect performance related to retro emulation on the 3DS?
Anyway, I actually love the 3D effect in the N3DS Super Mario 64 homebrew source port, with the right nub camera controls it just feels like how the game was always intended, and it even runs at 60FPS

>> No.9076004

>>9075991
If emulators support the 3D effect, I haven't heard about it.
The 3D-capable screen does have noticeable reduction of the screen door effect horizontally in 2D mode, which I find gives a pleasing scanline-like effect for /vr/ games.

>> No.9076009

>>9075991
I recommend replacing the nub with a psp thumb stick
It’s actually usable then

>> No.9076095

>>9076004
I agree, the pseudo scan lines look great. Too bad that DS and GBA games look like shit when scaled, and they look tiny when not. I read recently about some CFW hack that adds sharper scalers. I’ll have to check that out.
>>9076009
That sounds interesting, thanks for the tip

>> No.9076220

>>9075991
>How is the 3D effect performance related to retro emulation on the 3DS?
Many retro emulators don't perform well because the 3ds was underpowered, partly because the 3d screen has a lot of wasted resolution.

>> No.9076275

>>9076220
...you are aware that emulators can and do turn off the "extra" resolution yes?

>> No.9076292

>>9076220
Dumbest post I’ve read all day.

>> No.9076502

>>9075207
>n-n-no u r kid

>> No.9076851

>>9066590
Is SNES any better with RetroArch on the N3DS?

>> No.9076856

>>9076851
Stop. The standalone port and RA cores of Snes9x can’t compare to VC injects.

>> No.9076857

>>9076856
I was just curious because I’ve never tried it, nor have I had any issues with VC injection. Only reason I could see wanting to use RetroArch is for fast forward.

>> No.9076859

>>9076857
If you want FF then the standalone port completely stomps RA.

>> No.9076864

>>9076859
Agreed, but not all games have ports of course.

>> No.9076873

>PSP can emulate SNES with frameskip and other hacks
PS Vita SNES emulation is even worse than on the PSP
wtf happened

>> No.9076882

>tfw 3DSXL cost upwards of $400 now

What the fuck when did this shit happen

>> No.9076916

>>9066535
anyone know how to get rid of black lines in starcraft 64 on retroarch? ive tried everything but nothing works. also some parts of the game (e.g. menu screen) seem to run really fast

>> No.9076932

>>9076873
Really? Last I checked SNES emulation on PSP was the drizzling shits. Terrible performance and tons of incompatible titles.

>> No.9076935

>>9076932
Yeah, and the Vita is the same shit.

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9076949

>>9076882
shit's crazy out there

>> No.9076950

>>9076882
Amazon’s “refurbished” consoles are a scam. They’ve basically neutered the used handheld market on their site.
You can still get N3DS XLs for under $200 on eBay.

>> No.9076967

>>9076949
Nah, this is normal. Lots of gaming peripherals shoot up in price after the console they were made for ceases production. Unless they’re some mass produced bullshit like the Kinect. Even pre-pandemic Vita docks were going for a premium.

>> No.9076980

>>9076967
The 3ds dock is literally just a piece of plastic with 2 power contacts, don't know why it hasn't been cheaply cloned

>> No.9076993

>>9076980
Probably not a lot of demand. I’m sure chinks will get around to making one eventually tho.

>> No.9077120

>>9075991
Man, you'd think there would already be a viable Virtual Boy emulator for the 3DS, as it's the one platform that could actually do it justice, but there still isn't.

>> No.9077342

>>9074551
Not a retard. Just don't know better.

Mingaboo.

>> No.9077346

>>9074773
I fink he ment Fbi.

>> No.9077349

>>9066535
Thanks, dude

>> No.9077595

>>9077342
>>9077346
Well correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think DSi has enough power to emulate SNES

>> No.9077661

>>9077595
I got some of the roms working on twilight but I would be interested in "better" emulation. GBA and SNES struggle on certain titles. The options to further this are an r4 type card with the extra chips and injected files.

>> No.9077665

>>9077661
GBA is not emulated on DSi. GBARunner is more like a VM. As for SNES, I doubt you can get anything good out of the hardware, software won’t help you there.
You might think that “if GBA works this good, surely SNES can as well”, but like I say, that’s not an emulator, there is a degree of hardware compatibility there.

>> No.9077669

>>9077665
>GBARunner
How do you use it?

>> No.9077868

>>9077669
Do I look like a fucking helpdesk? Google it motherfucker.

>> No.9078004

>>9077868
Do I look like a mentally stable adult capable of doing that on my own?

>> No.9078045

>>9077669
https://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/GBARunner2

It comes with an open-source rewrite of the GBA BIOS, but it's not nearly as good as the OG one compatibility wise. TL:DR - download GBA bios from somewhere.

>> No.9080189

>>9066535
Some games don't emulate properly and are prone to issues. Yes, even on the new 3ds.

>> No.9080467

>>9080189
>LE SOME GAMES
Give examples or fuck off

>> No.9080475

>>9078045
How’s compatibility these days? Might dust off my DSi XL if it’s decent.

>> No.9080516

>>9075109
nah, they're way better for Mega Man Zero and ZX

>> No.9080615

>>9080475
Not really any different than it was a couple years ago
There’s a version that works well called hybrid but some of the sounds don’t sound accurate
Some games just flat out don’t work like Mario and Luigi

>> No.9080632

>>9080516
How do you have an opinion this wrong wtf.

>> No.9080654

>>9075223
its been over 10 years now manlettears

>> No.9080660

>>9080632
Consensus is you are the one with the wrong opinion, bud

>> No.9080702

>>9080654
And you're still seething lul

>> No.9080725

>>9080615
Ah, shame. Guess I’ll just stick to my 3DS for GBA games.

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9080852

>>9068067
GrapheneOS

>> No.9080958

>>9080725
Well I finished FFVI, Metroid Fusion, and Minish Cap last year on my DSi, it was fine

>> No.9080976

>>9080958
Metroid Fusion clearly has some audio bugs, but if you don't mind that sort of thing it's playable.

>> No.9080991

>>9080976
I only noticed that the audio cuts off permanently if you open the GBARunner menu. There might have been other things, but they must have been very minor as I don't remember them a year later.

>> No.9081000

>>9080991
I’m the anon from the post before
Certain sounds come from the new audio chip inside the DSi and as such sounds completely wrong

>> No.9081026

>>9081000
I actually investigated this because it was reported in an earlier thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnFbUfDXR4o
On GBARunner2, one of the background instruments sounds different at around 0:11. That instrument is played by the Game Boy tone & sweep channel. DS/DSi audio doesn't have a sweep register in its PSG mode, so this function has to be emulated. Apparently, it isn't emulated well.
It's nothing to do with the new DSi DSP, which actually works quite well.

>> No.9081034

>>9081026
Fair enough
I just knew it sounds completely wrong in a few games enough to bug me
Good to know someone else figured it out

>> No.9081040

>>9081026
>>9081034
Good on you that you figured it out. It didn't bother me, I enjoyed my playthrough. Do you know if this instrument is problematic on 3DS "native" GBA mode as well? Because I think the 3DS also emulates that DSP thingy as it lacks the hardware.

>> No.9081045

>>9081034
Actually to add to that, this was the exact sound that I started noticing it be an issue
It sounds like a riser where there shouldn’t be

>> No.9081061

>>9081040
The DS and 3DS support this functionality in GBA mode, but not in DS mode. Running natively rather than through a hypervisor, there's no problem.
>Because I think the 3DS also emulates that DSP thingy as it lacks the hardware.
It doesn't seem to, actually. The 3DS DSP is the same as the DSi DSP, and the DSi has both the DSP and the old DS audio hardware. And the DS audio is itself very similar to the GBA audio hardware. In the hardware there's heavy reuse of all these components up and down the backwards compatibility.

>> No.9081078

>>9066535
>lmao bottom text

>> No.9081354

I have found my switch with Nyxi controllers is pretty good for emulation.

>> No.9082946

>>9076949
Look up prices for the PS2 vertical and horizonatl (lol) stands

>> No.9083041

>>9082946
Even crazier, anyone with access to a 3d printer could make their own cheaply.

That reminds me, did anything ever come of the efforts to clone the gamecube component cables?

>> No.9083047

>>9083041
Yeah but just get a wii.

>> No.9084390

>>9083041
Not really. You have to be smart enough to download a file, upload it to your printer, and print. Such mad skillz are beyond most people.