/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9048853]

So I bought River City Girls (sucks ass) and since it is based off River City Ransom it got me thinking what the best belt scroller on the NES is. I still say it's Double Dragon 1. Awesome music, cool level up system, no currency like RCR so you don't have to waste time backtracking and grinding, and it's short so you can do a quick run whenever you want. DD2 has those stupid platforming elements and DD3 is too damn hard.

[Anonymous No.9048858]

>>9048853
I don't know if you realised this, but you can see Sailor Mercury's underpants in that screenshot you posted.

[Anonymous No.9048861]

>>9048853
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about and don't care because my eyes are inexplicably drawn to Sailor Mercury's panty-flashing ass.

[Anonymous No.9048867]

>>9048853
Have you tried TMNT2, TMNT3, Might Final Fight, , Kung Fu 2 or even P.O.W. Prisoners of War?

[Anonymous No.9048876]

I see London.
I see France.

[Anonymous No.9048881]

>>9048853
I'd personally say TMNT3

[Anonymous No.9048902]

>>9048853
Double Dragon 1 on the NES suffers the infamous "Magic Enemy Hit" glitch, when somehow the enemy hits you at the same time you hit him, making it a chore to play.

[Anonymous No.9048943]

>>9048853
>River City Girls (sucks ass
That game was such a fucking disappointment.

[Anonymous No.9048954]

>>9048943
Maybe i just have low standards but for me, it was okay game. Nothing really special and the plot was dumb as hell, but like, the game okay enough to spend a couple of evenings.

Nothing beats original Nekketsu games, though. Not even newer Nekketsu games.

[Anonymous No.9048957]

>>9048943
I liked it enough. I played on hard on my first play and a couple of fights were hard. Fun little game for me.

[Anonymous No.9049278]

>>9048853
What shader is that?

[Anonymous No.9049356]

>>9048858
>>9048861
>>9048876
Look at all these perverts coming out of the woodwork.

>>9049278
CRT Royale with a few adjustments.
>https://pastebin.com/1j2qA6jB
If you want the full details. Doesn't work on the newest version of Retroarch for me now though so I can't use it anymore. Sucks.

[Anonymous No.9049486]

>>9048853
Might Final Fight imo

[Anonymous No.9049497]

>>9048858
>>9048861
>>9048876
well noted bros

[Anonymous No.9049658]

This is the only Beat 'em Up I deeply liked for the gameplay aspect alone, thanks to:
>dodge mechanics
>telegraphable or predictable attack pattern from enemies
>wide, yet intuitive and useful moveset
>enemies that require different approaches
>fast movement
>no damage sponge

I feel this lacking in retro Beat 'em Ups (and modern ones too), especially the first 4 items, is this just a matter of taste or am I just not playing them right? Or I haven't played enough games?

Before you "not retro" me, I'm using pic related to spark conversation on what is essentially a retro genre so I can understand it better.

[Anonymous No.9049853]

>beat em up fag pretending to have standards
Always makes me laugh

[Anonymous No.9049859]

>>9048853
>DD2 has those stupid platforming elements
i thought dd1 has platforming too?

[Anonymous No.9049863]

>>9048943
The pixel art is terrible. If they just use the same style of Shantae or Ducktales...

[Anonymous No.9049865]

why would ANYONE in 2022 waste their time playing nes versions of arcade games? delete this thread now

[Anonymous No.9049869]

>>9048858
>>9048861
>>9048876
>>9049497
OMG gUyS!

[Anonymous No.9050037]

>>9049658
The taunt/super spam ruins it though.

[Anonymous No.9050138]

No one gives a fuck about what you thought of RCG or what inspired you to start the thread idiot, just get to the fucking point

[Anonymous No.9050163]

>>9049356
>CRT Royale with a few adjustments.
>>https://pastebin.com/1j2qA6jB
>If you want the full details. Doesn't work on the newest version of Retroarch for me now though so I can't use it anymore. Sucks

Newer versions remove compatibility with the Analogue Shader Set, but you know you can find old versions of RA?

[Anonymous No.9050226]

>>9048853
RCG I thought was alright but a bit stiff, still pretty fun with 2 players or even as a party game.

Mighty final fight I liked the best, also like renegade for being able to kick people off platforms and target renegade is fun for being given rediculous names on pirate carts like double dragon 4, the motorbike sounds so weird.

I like the graphics in toxic crusaders but the game has limited moves, I don't think you can even throw.

[Anonymous No.9050230]

>>9049658
Most old games don't have a dodge because your punishment for getting cornered is getting owned. The good ones require different approaches and don't really have sponges, though.
New Turtles is ok, but have you played Fight N Rage? I liked it a lot more.

[Anonymous No.9050268]

>>9049658
filtered newfag and not retro

[Anonymous No.9050302]

>>9050138
I paid for Underground when it came out. Played with neice and nephew. Usually we play beat em ups on MAME. We also played the translated SNES River City game. None of us could get into it. It felt like Castle Crashers but without the poop jokes. We pushed through and got to the corporate tower and beat that "final" boss. Then we threw out hands up and were done when the weird scifi stuff started. My neice made me a pixel art fuse beads of Kunio. Then told me "I made it because it was easy, but I hate that game."

[Anonymous No.9050338]

>>9048853
Toonami Aftermatch was airing Sailor Moon last night, I watched an episode of it while dozing off, felt weird, the art was great, though. Also learned that's were E;R got his avatar. Is that game good?

[Anonymous No.9050343]

>>9050163
Is it the new RA or could it be my graphics card drivers? I updated them and it stopped working, that's why I updated RA and it didn't fix anything.

[Anonymous No.9050349]

>>9050338
Yes, the game is amazing. Even though it's all the same attacks each girl feels unique because they have different animations, though some do have slightly different properties, I think like not all jump kicks or dash attacks work exactly the same iirc.

[Anonymous No.9050389]

>>9050343
My safe bet is that it was both.

[Anonymous No.9050417]

TMNT 3: The Manhattan Project, is numero uno

[Anonymous No.9051194]

>>9048943
I honestly have no idea why's all the hate. I've liked it. Surely, it was not great, but definitely better than SoR4, which everyone liked for some reason.

[Anonymous No.9051217]

>>9048853
>River City Girls (sucks ass)
I was contemplating playing this, what didn't you like about it?

[Anonymous No.9051374]

>>9048858
Its a leotard so her modesty is safe.

[Anonymous No.9052142]

>>9048853
That frame exists because of this frame from the show.

[Anonymous No.9052189]

>>9051217
Everything is mapped to X/Square so to leave the screen you have to hold X. Want to pick up a weapon, push X. Want to attack, push X. Want to attack and there's a guy knocked down right by you? You pick HIM up instead of the attack you wanted. Similar with Y/Triangle for the ground stomps. Y is stomp, but you have to be pixel perfect or else you'll get your heavy attack instead of the stomp and be left vulnerable. Forward+Y is the dab which has a really long recovery. Walk forward and release and press Y to stomp, sometimes the dab still comes out.

Knock someone down, you better stomp twice and quickly back up and let them stand up, because they WILL do a 3 hit combo on you immediately when they get up. You don't get any (or barely any) i-frames, so you do your special (cannon drill for instance) - this shit happened to me: did my cannon drill, knocked 3 guys down, but the 4th was a pixel above the plane so he punches/combos me out of my special. You have NO invincibility during throws. You grabbing an enemy is a bad thing because you can't just release them, you have to either finish the combo or press Y to throw, in either case you can and WILL be hit by one of the other 6 guys on screen. Sometimes I've knocked a guy down, get hit from the back and fall down myself, the first guy I knocked down wakes up dizzy (stars around his head, meaning he can be grabbed), and I wake-up and auto-grab him and can't release and get hit back down again. Fucking infuriating controls. It's like they designed it with an NES controller in mind, everything is X or Y based and there's so much overlap I was constantly getting moves I didn't want.

Also enemies scale with you so the level up system is pointless. They're almost harder to beat the higher level you get because they all become damage sponges. You do your combo, knock the guy down, stomp x2, back up, combo, stomp, etc. about 5 times to kill one guy, and there's often 7+ on screen. It's just so tedious.

[Anonymous No.9052193]

>>9052189
Hit the character limit, but to add to the "everything is X" thing, there was a bat on the ground I wanted to pick up, but it was placed right before an NPC/quest giver that to talk to, yeah you press X. So I literally couldn't pick up the bat because it auto-talked to this asshole over and over.

Was gonna say, it's on Fanatical 3 games for $10, so it's like $3 if you want to try it.
https://www.fanatical.com/en/pick-and-mix/platinum-collection-build-your-own-bundle

Not that I would recommend it.

Also the bosses are fucking annoying. One is a 2D Touhou bullet hell and you move slow as molasses, and there's a Guitar Hero thing where you have to dodge notes. I haven't seen any posts on the internet of people saying they LIKE these bosses.

That only 48% of the people on Steam who played RCG have even beaten the 2nd boss tells you all you need to know

[Anonymous No.9052267]

>>9052193
>That only 48% of the people on Steam who played RCG have even beaten the 2nd boss tells you all you need to know
Yea, totally tells me all I need to know about people who use Steam.

[Anonymous No.9052351]

>>9048943
It has an actual moveset which alone makes it better than 99.9% of beat em ups

[Anonymous No.9052721]

>>9048943
only if you went in with expectations... actually it's more braindead than Double Dragon Neon, maybe a slight disappointment.

>>9048867
>Might Final Fight
real answer unless you need co op

[Anonymous No.9052726]

>>9052351
>mash literally anything
>win
I mean TMNT2 NES has like 3 moves, but at least you have to know which one to use and when

[Anonymous No.9052973]

mighty final fight for the simple reason that it plays like final fight (best beat 'em up ever) on a fucking 8-bits console

[Anonymous No.9052980]

I think we can agree that all beat em ups are the same game and that the only thing we should be judging them on is music. With that criteria set, I think it's pretty easy to assume that DD Neon is the best beat em up ever made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW98Z9W1X5I

[Anonymous No.9052985]

>>9048853
>sucks ass
*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.9052986]

>>9052980
i think we can all agree you are shit at bmups and got filtered

[Anonymous No.9052991]

>>9052986
I think we can all agree that you are too high strung and should listen to some mango tango to relax.

[Anonymous No.9053000]

>>9052991
decent tune but then I remember dd neon is kind of shite and that there are better bmup soundtracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRiSHkMV_iM

[Anonymous No.9053005]

>>9053000
Yeah, the game is shit. I just plug the song whenever....I really like the track at 1:16 on that. Thanks

[Anonymous No.9053065]

the sound of kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpRM3leXG68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z60499sy8Zo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFg7zePcIjQ

[Anonymous No.9053080]

>>9048853
NES? Mighty Final Fight, followed very closely by TMNT 3

[Anonymous No.9053294]

>>9048853
river city girls is good though.

[Anonymous No.9053481]

>>9052980
100% they got inspired by this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UchY4JR9elE&list=PL6BoklkwiyPAirpzdGKWcPVxJF2r_bdu5

[Anonymous No.9053503]

>>9051194
>better than SoR4
You can't be serious anon, there are no people with such a terrible taste...

[Anonymous No.9053521]

>>9053503
Of course there are, just look in the mirror.
I mean, Streets Of Rage 4 is not a bad game, it's just... plain. You go through it and you forget all about it. Hell, in that aspect, even Double Dragon Neon manages to stay in your memory longer.
And to put SoR4 higher than River City Girls? Please.

[Anonymous No.9053528]

>>9053521
My thoughts on Paprium as well.

[Anonymous No.9053721]

Any beatemup that is not playable by mashing and is not completed by repeating your best move (which can be as simple as jumpkicking at the right timing) is a good beatemup. A beatemup should have a variety of moves and produce situations that are good reasons to use many of them.

[Anonymous No.9053734]

>>9053503
For real. I liked River City Girls but SoR4 beat it in every way, including cute girls. I guess that guy just likes RPG mechanics enough to make a difference to him.

[Anonymous No.9053810]

>>9053721
King of Dragons is a counterexample

[Anonymous No.9053817]

>>9053721
post example

[Anonymous No.9053834]

>>9048853 >>9052142
Didn't they all transform into having one piece swimsuits with skirts over top of them?
Why do people get titillated over an illusion of them being panties, but not
swimsuits?

[Anonymous No.9053868]

>>9053080
Why do people like 3 over 2 so much?

[Anonymous No.9053887]

>>9053834
Yeah it's just a leotard, not underwear, But white form fitting fabric under a skirt, especially in a cartoon, looks like underwear so it's hot.

[Anonymous No.9053934]

>>9053887
No I'm still asking.
Why isn't it hot even after it isn't underwear?
Why is a swimsuit not extremely lewd?

[Anonymous No.9054734]

>>9049356
>Look at all these perverts coming out of the woodwork.
we've been here all along.

[Anonymous No.9054942]

>>9054734
>broken minded fool doesn't know what words mean
Many such cases

[Anonymous No.9054951]

list of sailor moon beat 'em ups? always wanted to play them.

[Anonymous No.9055012]

>>9053721
Post examples, please.

[Anonymous No.9056248]

>>9049869
Yeah baby that's the stuff

[Anonymous No.9056250]

>>9053834
Panties are just a piece of fabric. The point is getting to see something that's normally hidden.

[Anonymous No.9056259]

>>9053521
You're high m8, SOR4 survival is fun as fuck, lord knows how many hours I have in it so far. The characters all play very differently too, so even with just the base game you have several playthroughs' worth

[Anonymous No.9056396]

>>9056259
Actually, it sounds like you are high. Try staring at the wall, you may spend a lot of hours doing that as well. While I actually do not use, and therefore a bit afraid of dying out of sheer boredom.

[Anonymous No.9056669]

>>9054951
The arcade one is the best, but there's a couple on the SNES. They feel really slow and clunky though.

[Anonymous No.9056709]

Sailor Moon arcade beat em up is pretty decent but goddamn I hate the sound in it.

[Anonymous No.9057087]

>>9056709
It has nostalgic sound

[Anonymous No.9057114]

>>9056709
ost be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J---aiyznGQ

[Anonymous No.9057296]

>>9053834
The crotch of used panties or a used swimsuit both smell like pussy. They both contain pussy. We're here for the pussy.

[Anonymous No.9057570]

>>9048853
>otaku games

[Anonymous No.9057614]

>>9048853
>(sucks ass)
HAHA you're wrong

[Anonymous No.9057860]

>>9049497
Name?

[Anonymous No.9057981]

>>9048853
what shader/settings is that?

[Anonymous No.9058431]

>>9054951
>SNES Bishojo Senshi Sailor Moon
Does what it needs to. You can pick any of the standard five, pretty standard Final Fight clone, with a base combo that can be finished with a throw if you hold up or down - useful for crowd control. You've got a get off me move with jump and attack, and a charge projectile holding attack which takes forever yet is alright for sniping lined up enemies offscreen. Jupiter's backdrop move is delicious.

>SNES Bishojo Senshi Sailor Moon R
More of the same, only you now get a Golden Axe/SOR1 screenclearer with limited usage, and there's a bit more polish and speed, as well as character moves altered for variety. You can Haggar piledrive from a jumping grab with some chars. There's also a Chibi-Usa mode if you wish to be the little girl, which is babbier difficulty but amusing.

>MD Bishojo Senshi Sailor Moon
Fast, has huge sprites, command moves as well as your base combo/throws. There's also these command dashjumps which are good for escapes/getting the drop on stuff. Definitely an evolution of the SNES twosome mechanics/wise, but is single player only - to make up for this every character has unique dialog/endings.

All these are translated now - not that it's needed but it's nice to have dialog in English.

[Anonymous No.9058742]

>>9058431
>>9058431
why is md sailor moon single-player only? I thought we had the faster console segabros...

[Anonymous No.9059464]

>>9057981
see >>9049356

[Anonymous No.9059884]

>>9057860
ProJared.

[Anonymous No.9059969]

>>9048853
The platforming in DD2 is so easy that its really a non-issue. At first they’re a bit tough but it takes like 2 minutes to figure out the hard parts the first time you play, maybe you’ll die a couple times. Together they make up like 4 minutes of the game once you can breeze through them one like, the fifth playthrough.

[Anonymous No.9060379]

>>9048853
>belt scroller
STOP
FUCKING
FORCING
THIS

[Anonymous No.9060392]

>>9060379
How does it feel to be the first dipshit to bite the bait after 80+ replies?

[Anonymous No.9060396]

>>9048853
scotformer wilyvania belt scroller sega system

[Anonymous No.9060420]

>>9057296
actually a swimsuit doesn't really smell like pussy
underwear is for daily use though, so it would

[Anonymous No.9060449]

>>9060379
That's literally what the genre is called in Japan (where it was invented)

[Kotonohas' Husbando No.9060475]

>>9057860
Anon....

[Anonymous No.9060772]

>>9058431
Replayed the MD version tonight and wow, this is weirder to play than I remember. Your base combo is boring as fuck, you can jump, down and attack into it I guess but you just can't do a thing til it's complete. The dashjumps can do a multihit kick which can be kinda fun to hop in and use, but it causes knockdown. Throws seem super weak and not half as useful. Still think the graphics/levels are better, the music is the Light Crusader/Yu Yu Hakusho guy, whose tunes sound good on the hardware but they're tuneless, unlike the SNES game's, which has music so suiting the show composers did arrange albums which are godly. The dialog and endings are a nice touch though, given I only saw the dub on TV a bunch back in the fucking 90s it's nice to have a little context.

Did a run at SNES R too and jesus fuck the googirls who just titgrabmolest you like something out of a MUGEN ryona game. You can mash til they come close and catch them, but they'll find a way to rape you with their tits. Maybe this is your thing.

[Anonymous No.9061197]

>>9060772
>Did a run at SNES R too and jesus fuck the googirls who just titgrabmolest you like something out of a MUGEN ryona game. You can mash til they come close and catch them, but they'll find a way to rape you with their tits. Maybe this is your thing.
Guess I'm playing this tonight, thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.9061361]

>>9060392
>hurr just ignore it bro
FUCK OFF
THIS IS HOW IT GETS NORMALIZED
KILL YOURSELF
>>9060449
FUCK OFF
FUCK
OFF
FUCKOFF
FUCK OFF
FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.9063283]

Beat R just. The googirls can indeed be caught by your basic combo, you just keep away and at attack length and just corral them around til they slither into your punches. The rolling fucks can be done in the same way - they're actually hittable while rolling, just follow up your hits with a throw immediately or you'll be hit out of the combo. Jupiter can suplex chaingrab bosses to death, it's hilariously easy.

Yeah these games're good.

[Anonymous No.9063290]

its river city ransom

[Anonymous No.9063293]

>>9060772
>unlike the SNES game's, which has music so suiting the show composers did arrange albums which are godly


Really? Where can we heard these?

[Anonymous No.9063626]

>>9048853
Right now given the height of nostalgia would be the ideal time to release a cross-platform Sailor Moon video game compilation with netplay

>SM: Arcade
>SM (snes)
>SM R
>SM Jōgai Rantō!? Shuyaku Sōdatsusen
>Those puzzle games
>Another Story

[Anonymous No.9063831]

>>9059884
thanks, i can fap now