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I'm going to play Final Fantasy: Tactics (PS1) for the first time. What am I in for?

>> No.9037662

boring and gay compared to FFTA and i dont care what anyone else thinks

>> No.9037685

>>9037647
Just know you should grind one battle before dorter. By then you'll know if it's for you or not. Also, spend your jp as smart as you can.

>> No.9037695

>>9037662
I really like both. Too different for me to compare. I felt like in ffta though my team would end up stuck in one job forever because it was great. Sniper, assassin, fighter, etc. Not really a complaint.

>> No.9037819

a really good time tinkering with classes
check this if you want to try a first non vanilla playthrough
https://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=12767.0

more stuff:
https://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?board=2.0
https://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?board=53.0

>> No.9038270

>>9037647
level up a white mage or two by spamming every single sidequest early on - it will break the game and you will feel like a badass when the cast holy.

the story is one of the best FF and i would go so far as to say best on the playstation

>> No.9038314

Try not getting addicted to it. Perhaps beat it and on to the next game.

>> No.9038319

>>9037647
Hell on earth if you don't look at the tutorial. I'm serious, look at it. I know it's slow, I know it's boring, the game even lampshades that with one of the skills.

Other than that, one of the best FFs in terms of story and music, and a top notch turn-based strategy game. Like most job system FFs it can be easily broken but that's not a big deal.

>> No.9038336
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>>9037647
remember to keep more than 1 save file and dont save before the fight with Wiegraf.

>> No.9038363

>>9038336
kek i died like this as a kid
my party carried weakass ramza the whole game

>> No.9038410

>>9038319
>Hell on earth if you don't look at the tutorial
This. 110x this. Just fucking do it.

>> No.9038813

>>9037647
Good game for its time. If you wanna replay sometime don't forget to try the PSP port.

>> No.9038819

>>9037647
Grind Grind Grind JP Points.

>> No.9038823

DO NOT PLAY THE PSP PORT.
ITS SHIT

Translation is SHIT

>> No.9039039

>>9037647
Gained JP Up i one of the most powerful abilities in the entire game.

>> No.9039707

>>9037662
I absolutely love both

FFT is pretty hard to get into, since its so fuckin slow and that early fight with the archers can be bullshit. Its just that grinding takes fucking forever.

But if you stick to it, u can make some broken units and a have a blast. Also the story is fuckin phenomenal, possible the best story out of any FF title.

>> No.9039713

>>9038813
>>9038823
PSP port's wordy english is fuckin baffling to me

I can't make sense of any of it.

>> No.9040173

>>9037647
l i t t l e m o n e y

>> No.9040175

Awful Jap story trash. Good battle mechanics
Kinda aged

Calculators are based

>> No.9040530

>>9040173
Heh, I noticed that.

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Was such a big fan of this baddass that came up with a asm hack to fix it all and make him playable.

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>>9037647

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>>9038823
>Translation is SHIT
The original wasn't much better.

>> No.9040623
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>>9038319
>the tutorial
For what little sense you can make out of it, it isn't bad...

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>>9040601
How it actually ended.

>> No.9040716
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>> No.9040734

>>9037662
FFTA is furfag fan fiction

>> No.9040742

>>9038336
ALSO, the Marquis Eldmore fight which you can literally lose in one turn depending on the games RNG

>> No.9040778

>>9040716
Agrias was pretty much the only other unique unit I kept on the team, she felt like she needed the redemption

>> No.9040786

This game needs a serious balance patch specially for speed.

>> No.9040790
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Holding hopes up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Sr0IVUD58

>> No.9040808

>>9037662
>charge time? fuck that, just let mages cast whatever the hell they want instantly, no balance issues there
>get attacked, counterattack with sword, OH SHIT SON YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL BECAUSE SWORDS ARE ILLEGAL TODAY
>waaaaaah reality merged with a book and became a living video game that made all my friends' shitty lives better and made the whole world awesome, i have to destroy it all because it's just not reeeeeeeeeeeeal
>hi, i'm a french moogle who doesn't look like a moogle at all! never call a lizard a lizard, lololol such complicated social politics amirite
ffta was fucking dogshit

>> No.9040849

>>9037647
>What am I in for?
2 hours of decent story and 48 hours of tedious battle gameplay, most of it being grinding. Hope you're playing on an emulator at 4x speed.

>> No.9040856
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>>9040790
>modern NU remake by sqweenix
dont hold your breath.

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>>9040856

Always thought Malboros where inspired on or rip-offs from Beholders.

>> No.9040954

I beat it the first time when I was like 8, so if you, As a grown adult, find it too hard, never play games again.

Otherwise, it's the best FF game, and I really like the others.

>> No.9041069

>>9040868
Nope
Eye/Phantom is kind of like a placeholder for a beholder in FF1 I think there was some weird copyright issue.

>> No.9041132

>>9037647
quitting within 5 minutes especially if you are a fan of other Final Fantasy games

>> No.9041137

According to hltb it takes 40 hours to beat, double the amount of any fire emblem and ten hours more than the mainline ps1 fantasies. How? Why?

>> No.9041172

>>9041137
because FFT is actually difficult and not piss easy for fire emblem casuals.

>> No.9041250

>>9037662
I love FFTA, 100 percented it as a kid, why is having more games a bad thing?

>> No.9041256

>>9040856
Loved the look of FFXVI Marlboro fight in the trailer

>> No.9041592

>>9037647
Play it and find out?

>> No.9041639

>>9041592
The only acceptable answer desu. Stop looking for validation from strangers OP

>> No.9041956

What about the FFT Complete mod for the PS1 version? Seems like a nice one, but I'd rather leave O as accept and X as cancel. Is there a way to do that?

>> No.9041969

>>9041956
just change the inputs on the emulator

>> No.9041974

>>9041969
I'm planning on using real hardware though.

>> No.9041996
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9041996

You will come to hate chocobos, specially the red ones.

>> No.9042006

>>9041974
Which complete mod are you talking about? Celdia's patch supposedly doesn't work on real hardware and even then patched games might cause bugs so save states are preferable.

>> No.9042067

>>9040808
you're not wrong

>> No.9042075

>>9040808
>>get attacked, counterattack with sword, OH SHIT SON YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL BECAUSE SWORDS ARE ILLEGAL TODAY
The rest are valid complaints but laws don’t apply to counterattacks.

>> No.9042125

>>9042006
This: https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4508/
Its main feature is inserting the PSP script into the PS1 version. Other than that, it's mostly bugfixes.

>> No.9042185

>>9042125`
Couldn't get it to work, but it's probably something on my end.
Nothing can be done about the inputs without modifying the patch itself.

>> No.9042198

Tactics Ogre is way more fun, in any and all of its iterations

>> No.9042202

Tactics Ogre is way more fun, in any and all of its iterations

>> No.9042336

>>9042185
>>9042185
>Nothing can be done about the inputs without modifying the patch itself.
That's what I meant, actually. They changed it SOMEHOW, there must be a way to reverse it. Sounds like something a simple hexedit could do, but I don't know where to look.

>> No.9042460

>>9038336
i couldnt get past this the first fime i played i need to replay>>9038363

>> No.9042463

>>9037647
A very bad translation. wait for the TLWoTL patch which should be releasing in about a month or so.

>> No.9042483

>>9038823
>>9039713
Filtered plebs.

>> No.9042489

>>9042463
The original translation is bad, but the pseudo-Shakespeare speak is completely terrible

>> No.9042691

>>9037647
Broken gameplay. Broken english.

>> No.9044329

>>9038336
Yep. This was my restart when I first played. This kind of stuff is almost non-existent now. Sad.

>> No.9044383

I enjoy the tactics gameplay, but I've trivialized a good chunk of it by doing random battles to get the skills that I want and unlock the classes that I want. Ramza can just teleport anywhere and dual sword anything to death now.

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>>9037647
Why not play......

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>>9040868
I think they're more like Otyugh, another DnD monster. FFI had Ochus but not Malboros.
>"Ochu" comes from Dungeons & Dragons; specifically, it is the otyugh. The name in Japanese (and transliterations) comes from the pronunciation; it is pronounced with a short O and T (practically to a ch), making the pronunciation close to "o-chuugh". "オチュー" is the closest the katakana system can get to representing the sound without using compound katakana pronunciations not natively found in Japanese.
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Ochu_(Final_Fantasy)

>> No.9045548

>>9042075
must be remembering it wrong. fuck the law mechanics anyway.

>> No.9045584

>>9040808
>charge time? fuck that, just let mages cast whatever the hell they want instantly, no balance issues there
there were no balance issues. mages are underpowered if anything.
>waaaaaah reality merged with a book and became a living video game that made all my friends' shitty lives better and made the whole world awesome, i have to destroy it all because it's just not reeeeeeeeeeeeal
anything sounds gay when you type it in a gay way, watch: waaahhhh marche's BWC was too big for doned's tight asshole, doned just wanted to live in a fantasy world because we was a cucked fag in real life why couldnt he juat leave him alone waaaahhh. see? super gay. that's how you sound.
>hi, i'm a french moogle who doesn't look like a moogle at all! never call a lizard a lizard, lololol such complicated social politics amirite
mentally ill complaint.

you said literally nothing about gameplay aside from the law criticism which doesnt even apply because you're wrong about it, which means this game filtered you because you were a doned-identifying cuck and you didnt know how to work around laws

>> No.9045663

>>9040742
Against Elmdore, all you have to do is strip one or two units of all armour to entice the assassins to attack them and ignore Ranpha. It's bullshit, but never unwinnable.

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>>9037647
"that's a nice butthole you got there"

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>> No.9045717

>>9037647
a worse version of FFTA, and a MUCH worse version of the best one, FFTA2, which has the largest game with the most options of everything, the main story may be simple but it also has the most long sidequestchains which have beautiful stories and writing.
btw any other comment in this thread is wrong and retarded.

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>>9042125
>Its main feature is inserting the PSP script into the PS1 version

>> No.9046601

>>9045717
Too many furries and scalies in those, you anthrofag.
Humes all the way. Only humes, and humes can join all classes and learn all skills.
Plus, real sexual dimorphism, not some androgynous troon fantasybait

>> No.9046716

>>9041996
my first playthrough I had grinded up to around lv 50 by the time I got o Finath River, first attempt there was 3 red chocobos and they murdered me before I even killed one of them

>> No.9046998

>>9041137
fft is hard.

>> No.9047002

>>9042125
>Its main feature is inserting the PSP script into the PS1 version. Other than that, it's mostly bugfixes.
How'd they do that, wasn't the ps1 dialogue box too cramped?

>> No.9047005

>>9042463
>A very bad translation. wait for the TLWoTL patch which should be releasing in about a month or so.
What? Where do you get this info from?

>> No.9047127

>>9046601
>being this obsessed and mindbroken

>> No.9047140

>>9046601
based
>>9047127
you like shit and defend it zealously, deal with it

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>>9040868
I think Ahriman are closer to Beholders. Looks like Malboro took the eyestalks (sometimes) and Ahriman took the central eye.
>>9040856
FFTA has the gayest-looking Malboro on the whole page.

>> No.9047182

>>9047140
I'm not the other anon, I don't care much for FFTA, but being this obsessed with furries and trannies isn't healthy.

>> No.9047184

>>9037647
Annoying camera angles

>> No.9047328

Delita did nothing wrong.

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>>9047182
you sound equally obsessed

>> No.9047397

>>9047384
Why?

>> No.9047450

>>9047182
Haha, it was just a shitpost to the ffta2 anon's shitpost.

Legitimately though, I do like the hume only aspect, as that means you're not locked out of certain cool jobs because of your race. Hardly ever used bangaas or nu mou in ffta in the first place.

>> No.9047453

>>9047397
He's making a legit point with valid (if exaggerated and provocative) reasons for preferring FFT and all you see is /pol/

>> No.9047469

>>9047450
As I'm discovering, there are a shit ton more useful skills too. At least fft vs ffta. I imagine ffta2 is has less.

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These two bath together.

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>>9047703
And probably more.

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>>9047174
>>9047767

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>>9045704
Such a simple but effective and memorable character.

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>>9047794
Pick her up anytime over easy mode Orlandu.

>> No.9047819

>>9037647
use two wizards with bolt

>> No.9047821

>>9037647
I don't know but I want to mating press the white mage with incredible legs and hips from the cover of some FF tactics game

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>>9047821
this one, bros
FUCK
breeding material

>> No.9048237

>>9037647
A shitty translation that hipsters convince themselves is good.
Wait for the remaster announcement, and if it looks like shit play the PSP version with speedhacks.

>>9040808
The FFTA story is one of the best stories ever told in a video game, not because of the quality of the writing but because it causes the same divide in real life between people that see the importance of not letting escapism consume you vs. losers like you that think the story sucks because they too wish they could escape their shit life into a video game world instead of dealing with reality.

>> No.9048248

wtf this isn't the pirates of the Caribbean thread, I KNOW I clicked on that thread and not this one

>> No.9048521

>>9047823
>>9048082

For reasons Ivalice's wind is always lifting up female white mages skirts. Gigachad wind.

>> No.9048560

>>9037647
>Spoil this game for me so I have nothing cool and unique to discover on my own. I want to experience this as sanitized as possible

Anon, play the game, form your own opinion.

>> No.9048642

I don't know anything FFT but it looks cool and I heard it was good with a good story or something a lot of classes but that's it

>> No.9048659

>>9037647
my friends loved this game

>> No.9048986

>>9047815
Fuckin' a, I want more Meliadoul

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>>9048986
She's a busty nun but hmmm.

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>> No.9049787

>>9040601
and idiot lets the evil church exists and do evil making beating the final boss pointles, good job ramza

>> No.9049791

>>9047174
i didnt noticed it was Amano art until i saw the pants

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>>9037647
The best ps1 FF