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Where did it go wrong for Hudson?
Bomberman, Adventure Island, Bonk, even did some stuff for Disney.

>> No.9032463

>>9032456
Nothing on their end, parent company NEC was struggling.

>> No.9032492

>>9032456
Don't forget the based Star Soldier series, m8.

>> No.9032518

>traveling competitions
>wacky tie in media produced
>good licensed games
>unashamedly Japanese style
>basically had PC Engine as their own console while still making games for all platforms
>fucking amazing in house PCEngine CD music development
>nostalgic and cool as fuck HQ that looks like the factory from TOYS

Besides bomber and adventure island in the 90s, i didn't really know much about them,but years later seeing more of their shit, i dare say they had that "fun game company" feel that a lot of people seem to think Nintendo had.

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>>9032528
OH?!

>> No.9032538

>>9032456
Their bank went belly up so all their assets and investments were wiped.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokkaido_Takushoku_Bank
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Soft#Relation_with_Konami

Also NEC started to fall apart because they didn't have a console after the TG16 Duo. They weren't allowed to put all their forced in to Saturn or Playstation, which really hurt them.

>> No.9032564

Yeah, it's more that their line of funding vanished instead of bleeding talent/lack of quality games.

Hudson never intended to go all in on the PC-FX. Most of their 2D catalogue was shifted fairly quickly to SFC in 1994-1996 and you had releases like Hagane, DoReMi Fantasy, Super Bonk, Tengai Makyou Zero, Super Bomberman 2-5.

They kind of ignored PS1 but had good output on Saturn/N64. Perhaps would have struggled with 3D games into the later generations like a lot of their contemporaries faced. I think the shift to HD or higher end machines would have inevitably caused consolidation regardless.

>> No.9032686
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It disappoints me that we no longer get constant releases of bomberkino.

>> No.9032713

>>9032463
>parent company NEC
Since when did they own Hudson?

>> No.9032727

>>9032713
They gave birth to Hudson.

>> No.9032760

>>9032531
It's ok plays like goemon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXcuDPQUvvw
The SNES RPG has some bosses that play like bomberman in it.

>> No.9032781 [DELETED] 

>>9032760
Actually that's wrong. The Nintendo games are straight RPGs.

There are 3 spinoffs, Momotarou Matsuri that is a party minigame collection with a quest mode where you play minigames reminiscent of bomberman in place of bosses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caIqgc42c3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1j0kHB37Ag
There is a train monopoly boardgame that uses real train stations location from Japan. So strongly Japanese it hurts and seem to be the most fondly liked in the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lorrkZVEZNE
Dengeki GB and Katsugeki PCE are platformers with goemon-like towns and npc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPsMhGdWHww

>> No.9032795

>>9032760
Actually that's wrong. The Nintendo games are straight RPGs.
There are 3 spinoffs, Momotarou Matsuri that is a party minigame collection with a quest mode where you play minigames reminiscent of bomberman in place of bosses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caIqgc42c3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFaKkFVJQ4s
There is a train monopoly boardgame that uses real train stations location from Japan. So strongly Japanese it hurts and seem to be the most fondly liked in the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lorrkZVEZNE
Dengeki GB and Katsugeki PCE are platformers with goemon-like towns and npc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPsMhGdWHww

>> No.9032861

>>9032795
>Katsugeki PCE

pretty underrated game

feels like a sequel to keith courage actually, but a lot more inventive with tight level design

>> No.9032930

>>9032456
They stopped doing risque marketing with nippo tiddys?

>> No.9032948
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I remember playing Adventure Island as a kid and it being so hard yet so fun to play and every time I'd get a little bit further in the game and about to get to the boss I'd be geeked and excited to see what new head he was going to have this time.

>> No.9033085

>Bomberman, Adventure Island, Bonk
Well, they could've made better games

>> No.9033198

>>9032456
>Where did it go wrong for Hudson?
Oh no, it's seems you've asked a loaded question.
Before asking "where did it go wrong" for Hudson, you first need to define what "going wrong" is meant to suggest, and then adequately establish with evidence that it DID, in fact, "go wrong" for Hudson.
I'll wait while you make your case.

>> No.9033210

>>9032948
Same, it's weird how these super tiny little things were so exciting as kids. Getting far enough in a game that you saw some minor change in a sprite or some new type of object alone was enough "reward" for playing

>> No.9033263

>>9032948
Same. I even started writing my own walkthrough book with "tips" for games I've played. I never managed to get past 4-2 as a kid, though. I knew about a bee but couldn't figure out what's it for. Also thought it's a ghost.

>>9033210
> weird how these super tiny little things were so exciting as kid
They're still exciting. You know how there's a mini-game in GBA's WarioWare called Paper Plane? I actually bought it as a standalone title for DS back in the day and spent good two weeks playing it. Just something as simple as different characters looking through the window and screen color changing are pushing you forward to get even better at the game. Some magic.

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The uncomplicated answer was swelling development costs and the Western-oriented market from PS3/Xbox360 generation onward were not kind to mid-budget Japanese developers and publishers like Hudson.

Things are finally stabilizing with digital marketplaces allowing smaller budgeted and indie games to prosper without having to invest in manufacturing without profit, but we've lost too many of my favorite Japanese developers and publishers to get here.

>> No.9033294

>>9032686
its spelled KENO dumbass,
and thats bomberman, a multiplayer party game thats "da bomb" not a gambling sim

>> No.9033302

>>9032456
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Mario Party. A series so vile, so viciously evil, so sadistic and wretched, God himself punished them by forcing them to sell to Konami.

>> No.9033305

>>9032564
I remember Bloody Roar being sort of a big deal on the PS1, but maybe it was just among the people I knew back then.

>> No.9033367

>>9033198
They make good game, now they don't make the game good or the good game.

>> No.9033452

>>9033294
What an unusual joke.

>> No.9034238

>>9033305
Bloody Roar was eighting/raizing.

>> No.9034535

>>9034238
It was a joint work.

>> No.9034574

>>9032463
>Most dominant IT company in Japan during the 80's and 90's
>Struggling
Shows how much the average /v/irgin knows about companies outside their game business.

>> No.9034912

>>9034574
That's right Windows completely wiped them out in the mid 90s.

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>>9032456
Others didn't want their games, even at a good price.