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Which one is the superiour retro isometforming loot 'em up, /vr/?

>> No.9030216
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9030216

what about Ladystalker

>> No.9030275

Climax should have made a follow up game to LadyStalker called CocksStalker, starring Cocks the chef.

>> No.9030292

>>9030216
They removed the ability to jump in LadyStalker, which means it lacks the isometforming aspect and thus doesn't count.

>> No.9030317
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>>9030208
Landstalker and it ain't close.

>>9030216
English version never ever.

>> No.9030798

I remember being pleasantly suprised by the scope of light crusader. Lots of cool puzzles and challenges that mix up the dungeon crawling. Especially love the time travelling at the end with all sorts of whacky locations and enemies all of a sudden, very unexpected!

I remember landstalker having stiff controls and fuck you level design. I feel like i wasnt in the right headspace at the time and i will give it another shot some day.

>> No.9030810

>>9030216
>>Cocks
>>I lol'd

>> No.9030854
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9030854

Light Crusader no doubt.

>> No.9031358
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>>9030208
Light Crusader for them brilliant riddles.

Also, hoping the new Treasure announcement will be a sequel to LC.

>> No.9031369

>>9031358
That's not going to happen, but it sure would be nice if it did, even if it's a Steam only game.
Something like Rogue Legacy but isometric? I'd be down for that.

>> No.9031867

>>9030798
>I remember landstalker having stiff controls
there's a romhack to fix that

https://romhacking.net/hacks/6658/

>> No.9032281

>>9030854
>>9031358
Based LChads dabbing on the Weebstalkers.

>> No.9033025
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>>9030208
Step aside, lads.

>> No.9033045
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>>9030798
There are a lot of complaints about Landstalker's controls. I can't help but think that most people that complain must be playing on a keyboard. With a controller it is perfectly intuitive to just press the diagonal directions as diagonal movement is all the game allows. And the people who played with a real Mega Drive controller and still complain, well those ones are just nincompoops.

>> No.9033048

Lightcrusader is bretty awesome

>> No.9033093

>>9030216
I mean clearly it's supposed to be Cox

>> No.9033314

>>9033045
Considering I played light crusader which is also an isometric game and had no problems maybe it has more to do with it actually being clunky and not to do with it being hard to press diagonals. I played it with a megadrive controller, I love tank controls, don't get so defensive.

>> No.9034089

>>9030208

It's called Zeldaformer, you triple mongoloid.

>> No.9034892

>>9034089
>Zelda
>no gimmicky gadgets-based puzzles
pick 1

>> No.9034903

Light Crusader. Insanely ahead of it's time with physics-based puzzles and spell combination

>> No.9035684
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>>9030208
Landstalker, because tits.

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>>9030216
>okama cook named cocks

>> No.9036781
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>>9030208
Light Crusader is unironically Trashure's only good game. No cringey art, sticks to the core gameplay whilst not throwing any gimmicks randomly at you and actually has tight level design in addition to superb boss fights, one of which they would fuck up on with their other games.

>> No.9036806

>>9030208
Light Crusader is just kind of special in a way that Landstalker isn't. It's 80s sword and sorcery done the Treasure way. The soundtrack alone is sublime. Sometimes it's hard to say if somehing feels special because it is or simply due to nostalgia. I am certainly nostalgic for Light Crusader because I had it on the MD, but I had lots of games and am not nostalgic for most of them. And shit, it's a Treasure game. Makes sense it should be memorable on its own.

Mine had a faulty battery for some reason, so I never knew the saves were supposed to persist after reboots. But that was actually a godsend, because I beat the thing in one sitting every time, sometimes unlocking this secret and sometimes that. It was a unified experience - just one epic dungeon delve. Graveyard, weird music, a movable tombstone... dungeon music starts playing. Fuck yeah.

>> No.9036832

>>9030208
Landstalker is fine, but it's a bit like a generic anime fantasy adventure. Light Crusader is a weird mix of western RPG with Treasure weirdeness here and there with a prog rock soundtrack.

>> No.9036884

>>9036832
https://youtu.be/4b3-nN9fNiE?t=437
Had the first dungeon theme stuck in my head all day ahnsuh the riddle

>> No.9037297

>>9036781
Kys auster.

>> No.9038192
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>>9035684
DID YOU SAY TITS?

>> No.9038586

>>9035684
Okay NOW I want to give it another shot. I fell asleep playing it at the start.

>> No.9038975

>>9036781
It's pretty funny that even after all these years, you're still here shitposting. I really do wonder what your actual life is like. I guess like a morbid curiosity because I'm sure it's pretty sad and not even in a funny way, but whatever.
That said.
the virginstalker vs the Light CrusCHADer

>> No.9039050

>>9036832
I like how the status screen kinda rips off Genesis (not in a bad way, mind).
Light Crusader: https://youtu.be/3Hs6ogq8hGA
Genesis: https://youtu.be/8u2c0h1q7eA

>> No.9039523 [DELETED] 

based

>> No.9039916
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9039916

What do?

>> No.9040740

>>9039916
find music box

>> No.9042284
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>>9033025
*blocks thine path*

>> No.9042836

>>9039916
ANSWER THE RIDDLE

>> No.9043298

>>9030208
Light Crusader
But Landstalker had some good levels

>> No.9043553

>>9036781
>treasure
I refuse to believe they have made a good game.

>> No.9043573

>>9042284
I like seeing old maps laid out like that. Is that an actual Rare game as the sprites at the top remind me of Sabrewulf.

>> No.9043635
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>>9043553
give light crusader a shot, m8

>> No.9043664

>>9043553
Every game they made is good

>> No.9043823

>>9030208
I prefer Light Crusader (unlike Landstalker it’s usually very clear where things in the air are, I like the puzzles better too) but both are great

>> No.9044093

>>9043664
Pretty much every Treasure game has problems, only rare exceptions like Light Crusader don't.

>> No.9044104

>>9044093
Every game ever has problems

>> No.9044112

>>9044104
If all you've ever played is Treasure's games, perhaps.

>> No.9044114

>>9044112
Interesting hypothesis! Alas, I have played many games over several decades and it’s still true

>> No.9044957 [DELETED] 

>>9044114
Why lie, Treasure fanboy? Nobody will fall for it. Just admit that Treasure games were indie-tier garbage compared to actually good games.

>> No.9045542

>>9044114
>and it’s still true
Nah, but keep telling yourself that if it helps you cope at night, Treasuretard.

>> No.9045779

I love LandStalker but for some reason have never got around to Light Crusader. So instead of being a faggot I'll say thanks for reminding me to check it out.

https://youtu.be/awhert9xp80

>> No.9046529 [DELETED] 

based.

>> No.9046752

>>9038586
You'll have to apply a romhack to make that scene available: https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5877/
They've blocked the room with a maid in the versions outside of Japan despite having translated the dialog.

>> No.9047674

>>9046752
Does it stack with the improved-controls-hack, or do you have to choose one or the other?

>> No.9047816

>>9047674
I don't have a savefile to test that scene but I am quite sure you can apply both IPS patches and it should work since they patch different rom regions. Just use only one of the two available control scheme patches (and they only work on US version).
But if you're playing with a gamepad using analog stick mapped to the dpad you should be able to comfortably play it without the control patch. Maybe increase the deadzone to 25% or so, that's what I am doing. I am in the last dungeon, I just can't be arsed to do the last stretch.

Landstalker's controls aren't as bad as some people say, you just have to "lock in" a 90 degrees direction change by using diagonal inputs and then you can just use just normal inputs to walk up and down that axis.
For example press diagonally up and right to go isometrically "up" once and then you can use either up or right inputs to keep going that way or press down or left to go down. Press either diagonally upleft or downright to lock into the other axis.

>> No.9049042

>>9047816
>you just have to "lock in" a 90 degrees direction change by using diagonal inputs and then you can just use just normal inputs to walk up and down that axis.
But why? Why not just hold down the exact diagonal direction you wish to walk in? How is it in any way more intuitive to press a direction that does not actually exist in the game instead? I don't understand why people don't just press diagonally as it is perfectly natural.

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>>9047816
>>9049042
Landstalkers movement controls are great with Sega style D-pads, it sucks ass with everything else though.

>> No.9051087

Either way, LC has much nicer and more intuitive controls, even with the romhack Landstalker's movement feels way too rigid and grid-like.

>> No.9051187

>>9049951
thats not the issue
the issue is the directions are rubbish
thankfully there's a romhack that fixes the inputs

>> No.9051824

>>9051187
>the issue is the directions are rubbish
How? The directions you need to push are 1:1 with the on screen action. I just can't understand this complaint. When you want to move diagonally up and left on the screen, why would you press anything but up+left? It makes no sense to even want to press a direction that does not correspond to what you see omn the screen.

>> No.9053253

>Knight's Lore
>Landstalker
>Light Crusader
>Snake Rattle 'n Roll (the Mega Drive port)
>Sonic 3D Blast (the only good 3D Sonic platformer)

Any other based /vr/ isometric games worth checking out?

>> No.9053804

>>9053253
Beyond Oasis/The Story of Thor not exactly isometric but pretty close

>> No.9053815

I am too stupid to play these games. I can't do puzzles. I got stuck in the graveyard in Light Crusader.

>> No.9053957

>>9053815
Did you try hitting the cow a thousand times?

>> No.9053965

>>9053253
solstice
equinox

>> No.9054707

>>9053253
Cool Spot Goes to Hollywood

>> No.9056283
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>>9053253
Populous for the Chadmiga.

>> No.9056286

>>9053815
dark savior for Saturn

>> No.9056290

>>9045542
What games, then (besides Light Crusader since you've already promoted it's perfection) do you believe to be flawless?

>> No.9056291

>>9056283
oi me amiger

>> No.9056389

>>9053253
super mario rpg

>> No.9056502

>>9051824
>It makes no sense
understandable to a moron that pressing two directions is preferable to one in a precision platformer

>> No.9056509

>>9053804
yeah no, definitely not, would you include zelda in this thread?

>> No.9056525

>>9030208
the whodawhatnow?

>> No.9056547
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>>9056389
>turn-based combat
You know where it belongs.

>> No.9057920

>>9056525
just another one of australia-kun's unfunny forced memes

>> No.9058461
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>>9053253
Steamgear Mash, highly overlooked and very soulful platformer for the Sega Saturn.

>> No.9060103
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>>9053253
>>Sonic 3D Blast (the only good 3D Sonic platformer)
based

>> No.9060770
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>>9053253
>Sonic 3D Blast (the only good 3D Sonic platformer)
I wouldn't say it's the only good 3D Sonic platformer, there are other good ones to me, but it sure is refreshing to see someone acknowledge it as not only counting as a 3D Sonic, but also consider it good overall, since it seems to be mostly bashed out there, even the Director's Cut, which I feel improved upon the original's foundation quite a lot. I know this might sound odd, but one thing that bothers me about Sonic's fan gaming scene, is that even though there are so many, and plenty of excelent quality, few ever attempt the Sonic 3D Blast formula again, even though it's a formula which could be greatly improved by being on an more traditional 3D perspective, instead of isometric, and with more platforming in the level design.

>> No.9060781

>>9056547
Nice retro meme, gramps.

>> No.9062572
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Saturnchads win again.