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probably the most important PC game of all time, i reckon i should play it for the first time

>> No.8998504 [DELETED] 

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>> No.8998665

>>8998502
The first one is better.
>probably the most important PC game of all time
Not by a long shot.

>> No.8998687

>>8998502
It aged so fucking well, and I'm sure of it, because i'm very spoiled regarding that kind of stuff

just love this game

>> No.8998710

>>8998502
System Shock 2 is great but the most important PC game of all time is probably Doom.

>> No.8998723

>>8998710
The most important game for me is Quake.

>> No.8998959

>>8998502
I never understood the hype behind this game. I played it for an hour or 2 and then dropped it because it felt too boring. Half life came out a year before and is miles ahead of this game in terms of fun, and half life is up there among the most important pc games of all time for sure.

>> No.8999023
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8999023

>>8998502
are you really even

>> No.8999028

>>8998502
ok zoomer

>> No.8999052

>>8998959
that's basic bitch talk

>> No.8999076

>>8998687
>It aged so fucking well
It really didn't. It has the classic broken RPG system. The sound design beats out anything that exists today though.

>>8998710
Or Ultima Underworld because it led to wolfenstein which led to doom.

>> No.8999081

>>8999076
as if "broken" RPG mechanics is outdated tech

>> No.8999087

>>8999028
you really have no idea what zoomers like do you? It's certainly not fucking System Shock

>> No.8999090

>>8999087
Zoomers love games like System Shock and Deus Ex because their favourite e-celeb told them to. Or at least, they say they love them. They probably won't actually play them.

>> No.8999101

>>8999090
would you rather my favourite e-celeb not told me?

>> No.8999103

>>8999090
what an oddly circuitous way for you to justify your dislike of those games. if you don't like a game just say you don't like it faggot, don't pretend it's because of whoever is supposedly consuming it

>> No.8999114

>>8998502
Haters are going to hate.
However, it was a very influential game. "Most important PC game of all time" might be a bit too strong but you can't dismiss the game's influence.
Of note is that it was built on the same engine of Thief/Thief 2 and that the developers had a doozy of a time making certain things work given the constraints of the engine.
Should you play it? Absolutely. Just keep in mind that it's an older game and you'll do fine.

>> No.8999119

>>8998502
System Shock 2 is about as important as Deus Ex and Thief. Quite influential but way way less than games like Ultima Underworld, Doom, Quake and even Half-Life.

>> No.8999153

>>8999023
Based Hugo enjoyer. Would you like a chop?

>> No.8999185

>>8999103
I like both of those games. They also happen to be promoted by e-celebs that zoomers watch, hence the reason there were so many of them suddenly sporting JC Denton avatars not too long ago.

>> No.8999523

>>8999101
I'd prefer if your e-celeb killed themself and told you to do the same

>> No.8999560

>>8999523
grow up

>> No.8999936
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8999936

L-l-l-look at you hackerrrr: a pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you run through my corridors... lacking a proper insurance plan.

>> No.9000462

>>8999052
I don't know, the game is just boring as hell to me. Half life is leaps and miles ahead of this in terms of gameplay, story, and atmosphere.
Wasn't bioshock supposed to be a spiritual successor to system shock? I think that game is way better than system shock itself too.

>> No.9000541

Did you know that the video when you launch the game is spoken by shodan? mind blown

>> No.9000665

>>9000462
it's just unfathomable to think that shit

>> No.9000680

>>9000541
link to e-celeb who discovered this? i want to subscribe

>> No.9000687

>>9000680
did you know that shodan is the voice of gladdos?

>> No.9000704

the funniest audiolog for me was the one that started with "Killing ze children won't be easy"
just thinking about how wrong it would sound out of context made me laugh

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>>8999090
>I dislike the game because someone with a bigger e-peen than me likes it
Is this really what this board has come to?

>> No.9000875

Only thing I didnt like about SS2 was the Rickenbacker, god those levels sucked.

>> No.9001336

>>9000875
i have to pay that opinion. I thought the game took a dive around then, even if it was still pretty great overall. And of course SS1 smokes it in just about every way.

>> No.9001405

>>8998502
pre-Bioshock:
>wtf is this? its just some shitty PC shooter for boomers
post-Bioshock:
>OMG this is literally the greatest game ever! a journo / a youtuber said this so now this is objective truth
many such cases (see: Earthbound)

>> No.9001572

>>9001405
Earthbound is good though, although mother 3 is much better. Don't know why mother3 doesn't get more attention.
Don't like either as much as I do chrono trigger.

>> No.9001916

>>9000665
Seems pretty fathomable to me. I don't hear that many people talking about this game anymore. A ton of people still talk about half life, bioshock, deus ex, etc.

>> No.9001926

>>9001916
Also this is one of the few games where I genuinely felt bored playing lol. Usually I don't have an issue being immersed into games or putting aside biases, but I think this game unironically sucks and didn't age as well as some other games.

>> No.9001942

>>8999936
kek star insurance company wtf

>> No.9002626

>>9001926
so far your complaints have been "it sucked" and "I didn't like it". if your goal was to show off how subpar your IQ was to everyone, then mission accomplished

>> No.9002659

>>8998665
>The first one is better.
Nah. Tired of this meme going around just because the second one is more popular and contrarians gotta contrarian

>> No.9002791

>>8998502
It's really hard to say which game out of Ultima Underworld, System Shock and System Shock 2 is the most important.

Ultima Underworld is directly influenced both all the subsequent games, the drive to make more 3D games, and also influenced Bethesda to make TES Arena. It's also rumored that Carmack saw an early version and was inspired by it. Measuring its impact is impossible

System Shock codified a lot of the systems that SS2 is really famous for, but nobody really played it. That being said, there's a saying "The first Velvet Underground album only sold 10,000 copies, but everyone who bought it formed a band." and I feel like that really applies to original System Shock, because it's clearly that game that influenced a ton of people who are in the industry now

System Shock 2 is easily the most accessible out of the three, save its somewhat terrible implementation of RPG mechanics that can fuck over inexperienced players hours into the game. It also trailblazed how to make horror games, though admittedly that bullet fired decades ago only fully landed with Alien Isolation. But the problem is System Shock 2 is really just System Shock in the Thief engine - a lot of what it added to the formula it got from Thief

I love the hell out of System Shock 2 but playing the games before it really made it clear to me that it wasn't that revolutionary. But holy fuck is its environment still something else.

>> No.9004338

>>9002791
funny thing is that underworld influenced carmack and the id guys to take a contrary approach by making their games fast and arcade-like with the smoothest graphics possible. They respected underworld but wanted to offer a different interpretation of first person dungeon crawling.

>> No.9004493

>>8998502
>probably the most important PC game of all time
This isn't Doom or even the original SS.

>> No.9004640

>>9002659
>Everyone I disagree with is a contrarian
First one is way more open and metroidvania style to it where second one is just going level by level with you needing to backtrack to the engine level once. Shodan is 1000x better in the first game and is the only video game villain who feels genuinely threatening and she's completely tacked on in the second game. Second one's balance and RPG system is totally botched while the first game is way more open to experimentation.

Second one has way better sound design and is spookier though.

>> No.9004657

>>9004640
>First one is way more open and metroidvania style to it where second one
So? It plays like fucking ass dude.

>> No.9005032

>>9002626
That's not the only thing I mentioned you brainlet. I don't give a fuck about what people on 4chin think about me.
>uhh it's not bad because.. uhhh, it just isn't okay?? You have have subpar iq!!
Tell me what this game does better than other games that came out around the same time.

>> No.9005258

>1999

>> No.9005343

>>9004657
>It plays like fucking ass dude
Filtered. It's way better designed and plays better than 2.

>> No.9005348

>>8999185
>promoted by e-celebs
How would you know?

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Built in multiplier client, hosted by the publisher. Enough said.
Most important PC game of all time.

>> No.9005397

>>9005032
>That's not the only thing I mentioned you brainlet
okay sorry, you said it was "boring" and "not fun", those are much more reasonable and fleshed out complaints

>> No.9005415

>>9005343
>It's way better designed and plays better than 2.
I refuse you believe that you actually believe this.
Also yes, bad controls 'filter' people because it makes them shit to play.