CRT/LCD Shader Thread

[Anonymous No.8991150]

Post screenshots

[Anonymous No.8991158]

[Anonymous No.8991163]

>>8991150
But idk which one is which...

[Anonymous No.8991172]

[Anonymous No.8991175]

>>8991172
Damn. BoF3 is comfy as fuck.
I forgot I had started a new game of it recently too.

[Anonymous No.8991262]

Cyberlab's death to pixels shaders (not pictured) are fucking amazing....if you have a 4k scree AND sit TV distances from it. I really like the RGB PVM ones heh as but sitting at monitor viewing distances the effect is too strong for my eyes which is a shame.

Pic related is from the HSM mega bezel pack which cyberlab uses as a basis for his shaders.

[Anonymous No.8991292]

>>8991262
I would like to show it in motion but compression fucking kills the nuances of it, but I did make an attempt.

[Anonymous No.8991307]

>>8991262
>>8991292
neat

[Anonymous No.8991406]

I can never get Dreamcast to scale correctly...

[Anonymous No.8991443]

>tfw no 4k monitor to use crt-royale

[Anonymous No.8991456]

>>8991443
royale is overrated by people who never used crts and is generally shit with too much bloom/blur and high reds

[Anonymous No.8991464]

>>8991456
What would you recommend then?

[Anonymous No.8991476]

>>8991464
Different person, but I just use CRT-easymode for my 1080p monitor. I can't be fucked messing around with a bunch of settings

[Anonymous No.8991485]

>>8991464

I have 2 production RGB monitors which is what I use but if I feel like using shaders I am but a simple man. For me it's just crt-easymode.

[Anonymous No.8991486]

>>8991406
Ditzy Camy is so cute!

[Anonymous No.8991491]

>>8991464
CRT-Guest-Advanced if you're a tweaker (lel) or CRT-Easymode if you just want something decent to set and forget.

[Anonymous No.8991505]

>>8991476
>>8991485
>>8991491
Thanks. I'll try it next time I'm emulating something.

[Anonymous No.8991576]

>>8991150
>>8991158
>>8991172
>>8991175
>>8991262
>>8991292
>>8991406
Why do you faggots not use any NTSC shaders? Console games were designed for NTSC signals and not for razor sharp PVMeme monitors.

[Anonymous No.8991584]

>>8991576
>Zoomer pretending to be a purist
no one cares mass reply bait fag

[Anonymous No.8991587]

>>8991576
I just use a lower TVL mask. It achieves the low-res CRT look without actively degrading the image or blurring it to shit.

[Anonymous No.8991643]

>>8991576
T-that OOT shot is on crt-guest-advanced-ntsc though...

[Anonymous No.8991658]

[Anonymous No.8991735]

>>8991576
I never played videogames on a TV. I've always used RGB monitors like the Commodore 1084s.

[Anonymous No.8991741]

>>8991658

[Anonymous No.8991953]

>>8991658
I... I think the effect is slightly over done in this one. Only just a little, though.

[Anonymous No.8991964]

>>8991576
Using composite shaders is peak autism 99% of the time. I get its for dithering but there's shaders that can do that while preserving color and not making the entire game blurry

[Anonymous No.8991990]

>>8991658
where's the "game"?

[Anonymous No.8992413]

>>8991576
'Cuz why would I use a shader mimicking an effect I never saw?

[Anonymous No.8993820]

>CRT shader thread
>no one ever posts settings or shaders, because only stolen images are posted
everytime

[Anonymous No.8993838]

>>8993820
i have this...

[Anonymous No.8993843]

FUCK ninjas
crt-guest-dr-venom-ntsc with pass1 composite replaced by pass1 svideo and some different mask and color settings

[Anonymous No.8993879]

>>8993820
Look i'll spoon feed your bait.

https://forums.libretro.com/t/hsm-mega-bezel-reflection-shader-feedback-and-updates/25512

https://forums.libretro.com/t/cyberlab-mega-bezel-death-to-pixels-shader-preset-pack/35606

[Anonymous No.8993886]

you think i could emulate ocarina of time on a 2002 sony vaio with a 1500mhz processor and 1gb ram?

[Anonymous No.8993934]

[Anonymous No.8993941]

>>8993886
Maybe 1964 could do it.

[Anonymous No.8993948]

[Anonymous No.8993953]

[Anonymous No.8993968]

>>8993941
not PJ64 though?

[Anonymous No.8993969]

[Anonymous No.8994106]

>>8993968
Perhaps a very old version, like 1.4 or so. You'd likely also have to resort to a really old plugin like Rice or an old version of Jabo's. It likely won't be pretty.

[Anonymous No.8994165]

>>8991456
>high reds
what do you mean? you sure that's not the result of setting the mask triad width to 5? like you can make the screen green with 4.
also there is a setting for the amount of bloom you want.

[Anonymous No.8994176]

>>8991576
why did you quote an arcade game?

[Anonymous No.8994180]

>>8994106
i mean shit as long as i can run it in native res with few bugs, im good

[Anonymous No.8994186]

>>8993953
That's my 100% waifu from that game. I love her looks and her magic. I wanted her in the party so I could marry her, but there isn't a romance system in the game so RIP.

[Anonymous No.8994203]

[Anonymous No.8994280]

>>8994203
>hentai protag on right

[Anonymous No.8994330]

OFF / CRT + Reshade

[Anonymous No.8994334]

>>8994330
Nice pink game.

[Anonymous No.8994448]

>>8993953
>>8994186
What game?

[Anonymous No.8994553]

>>8994330
>>8994334
There's something really funny about initial CRTfags trying to get the most perfect picture possible, meanwhile emufags try to capture all the imperfections of CRTs. I think most of this is just motivated by "the grass is greener on the other side" thinking.

[Anonymous No.8995083]

hmm

[Anonymous No.8995097]

>>8995083
Are you running this interlaced?

[Anonymous No.8995103]

What game?

[Anonymous No.8995105]

>>8995097
No

[Anonymous No.8995312]

>>8994186
>That's my 100% waifu from that game. I love her looks and her magic. I wanted her in the party so I could marry her, but there isn't a romance system in the game so RIP.
qt3.14

[Anonymous No.8995319]

>>8994186
i love this post so much it's unreal

[Anonymous No.8995323]

>>8995319
reddit

[Anonymous No.8995343]

>>8995103
>What game?
According to this fella >>8995319 it's Unreal.

[Anonymous No.8995362]

I don't think crt is necessary for fully 3d games.

[Anonymous No.8995373]

>>8995362
I disagree for 5th-gen games. I'm more inclined to agree for 6th-gen, though perhaps PS2 could benefit still for certain games.

[Anonymous No.8995389]

>>8995362
>>8995373
Sixth gen games for the most part can just be upscaled. Fifth gen games use too many 2D elements so yeah you can upscale the 3D and that'll (mostly) look fine but you'll still have that unfiltered 2D and they just clash.

[Anonymous No.8995392]

>>8995343
>>8995103
>>8994448

[Anonymous No.8995625]

>>8994448
Shining Force 3 for Saturn

[Anonymous No.8995632]

>>8991584

[Anonymous No.8995775]

https://streamable.com/ccv1dt

I tried my best to make my GC games look like my Toshiba 20" flat TV but I don't like the qualiity, it's too blurry and washed out. Any suggestions? I'm using CRT-Royale

[Anonymous No.8995785]

>>8995389
More than that, the textures are just horrendously low-res (especially with N64, but honestly PS1 isn't that much better) and the 3D is just very low-poly. I'd rather not expose all that with hi-res rendering. Better to downsample from hi-res back to native for some anti-aliasing and throw a CRT shader on top IMO.

[Anonymous No.8995790]

>>8995775
As has been stated in this thread, CRT-Royale is old news. Go to the libretro forums, grab the latest CRT-guest-advanced presets, and check out what people are doing with it. Unlike here, people there actually post their settings, too.

[Anonymous No.8995802]

>>8991964
what shader?

[Anonymous No.8995804]

[Anonymous No.8995819]

>>8995790
Oh thanks I didn't know, I'll check it out

[Anonymous No.8996606]

[Anonymous No.8996762]

>>8995804
Do you find such a large bezel distracting? or I suppose a related question would be are you viewing that on a monitor or something more TV sized?

[Anonymous No.8996790]

>>8993948
>>8993953
I remember these! Damn, need a 4k screen.

[Anonymous No.8996803]

>>8991456
Using Royale makes my eyes hurt after a long session of gaming. However I remember using a lot of shitty televisions back in the day and I got similar pains. I guess Royale is great if you want to get glasses in the future.

[Anonymous No.8996837]

The bezel is kinda fucked, probably because it's made for 4k displays.
Still like the look of it.

[Anonymous No.8996847]

All CRT shaders are garbage and the shittiest meme in retro. Older games looked better on CRTs because they scaled better to their lower resolutions, not because of fucking scanlines, which were more like an unfortunate limitation of the technology at the time. The concept of purposely gimping your vision on a modern display by obstructing it with tiny lines to make the picture "better" is retarded, and all the zoomed in comparison pictures in the world probe absolutely nothing when normal sane people play with their eyes more than an inch away from the screen where it doesn't make a difference.

When you use a CRT shader, you're no different from that fat kid in that old Game Gear commercial that would impair his senses by hitting himself on the head so he could see color on his Game Boy.

[Anonymous No.8996864]

>>8996847
best post on this entire board right now

[Anonymous No.8996881]

>>8996790
works fine on my 2560x1440

[Anonymous No.8996921]

[Anonymous No.8996941]

>>8991262
What game

[Anonymous No.8996946]

>>8996847
shut it, zoomer

[Anonymous No.8996956]

>>8996847
It's because I'm actually a poser who does like sharp pixels and does not like seeing a dithered texture meant to be an even translucency overlay, so I'm just using a crt shader over a blender shader to mask out any of the artifacts created by the blender into a uniform look.

[Anonymous No.8996957]

>>8996941
need for speed 4

[Anonymous No.8996958]

>>8996941
Need for speed high stakes.

[Anonymous No.8997196]

[Anonymous No.8997287]

>>8997196
What did you set ss.h_blend to?
For some reason having it disabled in RA makes the picture more blurry when using CRT shaders. This actually makes the Grandia save spots look like their have proper color gradients. It works as intended when I don't enable shaders though. It's just kinda weird.

[Anonymous No.8997343]

>>8997287
ss.h_blend - 0
ss.videoip - 1
ss.special - nny2x

[Anonymous No.8997364]

>>8997343
Mhh weird, I wonder if mednafen does some horizontal resolulation doubling when enabling the blurring, resulting in a sharper image when using shaders.
Switching to mode whatever in SNES games (ie Seiken Densetsu 3 inventory & message boxes) causes the same behavior.

[Anonymous No.8997365]

>>8996847
>Some graphic designers toyed with these specificities and mastered the 0.5 dot technique. The word “pixel” translates in Japanese to “ドット” (”dot”). It seems that Hiroshi Ono (AKA Mr Dotman) was the first to use that word to describe his work, talking about dot-e (ドット絵, the “e” is the same as in “Ukiyo-e” and means picture) and dot character (ドットキャラクター or ドットキャラ) in the February 1983 issue of Namco NG. “It’s a technique where by slightly changing the color of surrounding pixels, to the human eye it looks like the pixels move by around 0.5 pixels.” explains Kazuhiro Tanaka, graphic designer on Metal Slug (1996). His colleague Yasuyuki Oda adds that “Back in the old days, we’d say [to our artists] "add 0.5 of a pixel”, and have them draw in the pixels by taking scanlines into account. But with the modern Full HD monitor, the pixels comes out too clearly and too perfectly that you can’t have that same taste.“

[Anonymous No.8997379]

>>8996847
The pixels blend in much better when scan lines are applied. The rest is 100% irrelevant. Only autists care about anything after that point.

[Anonymous No.8997454]

>>8995802
sgenspt-mix. It is slightly destructive on the art but thats whats going to happen when you blur the image, whether it be through shaders like this or good ol' composite. I prefer this method because its flicker free & keeps the colors vibrant.
>>8996847
You're mostly wrong but it is true that zoomed in screenshots like you see on CRTpixels are misleading. Raw pixels don't look near as bad when viewed from a distance, the differences are subtle unless you use a really heavy shader (like CRT-Royale-XM29's color warping & bloom, or NTSC shaders).

[Anonymous No.8997768]

Making my way through the PSone FFs on Series X, crt-caligari

[Anonymous No.8997797]

>>8997768
looks gud

[Anonymous No.8998609]

[Anonymous No.8998630]

i like vhs shaders

[Anonymous No.8998635]

>>8998630

[Anonymous No.8998638]

>>8998635

[Anonymous No.8998639]

>>8998638

[Anonymous No.8998882]

[Anonymous No.8998961]

>>8994165
>that picture
disingenuous faggot

[Anonymous No.8998968]

>>8994165
dammit tranny, you should've used FF8 remastered models for 2nd pic

[Anonymous No.8998974]

>>8995790
Is it worth switching up from GL to Vulkan to go from guest-drvenom to guest-advanced?

[Anonymous No.8999000]

>>8998968
see>>8994203

[Anonymous No.8999107]

>>8998630
Aside from nostalgia I would say outrun 2006 is one of those games that really benefits from more modern resolutions as the art is absolutely crisp as fuck. The fact that it has a PC version is really helpful for this. Shame the 2D elements don't scale quite right but I don't think that worries anyone who isn't actually autistic.

[Anonymous No.8999152]

[Anonymous No.8999156]

>>8999107
that looks like fucking ass

[Anonymous No.8999189]

>>8999156
My sincerest apologies anon, mayhaps this is more to your taste? Can you find it within your autism to forgive me for having wrongfun?

[Anonymous No.8999224]

>>8999189
wrongfun? you can play whatever shit game you want, retard.

[Anonymous No.8999324]

>>8998974
I find vulkan works better in general if you can handle it.
Fmvs run properly on PlayStation in vulkan when they’re super slow on gl.

[Anonymous No.8999351]

>>8996762
I usually play with a closer viewport, this is just for show

[Anonymous No.8999804]

>>8991576
Why would you emulate a consumer television when you can emulate the device that the devs themselves used

[Anonymous No.9000041]

[Anonymous No.9000058]

>>8991150
how do i take a screebnshot of crt?

[Anonymous No.9000076]

>>8993838
Is that actually in the base game?

[Anonymous No.9000095]

>>9000076
Yes, in the Lake Hylia laboratory. Deepest lore.

[Anonymous No.9000101]

>>9000041
this looks like those perler bead items people sell on etsy
>>8999351
i like the idea of this
but the background needs to be more amazing
you can do anything, why not add shadows depth and flowing flowers/plants in the breeze
put the crt at the bottom of the ocean with ray traced lighting
>>8999189
dont be a fucking dick that game is great
>>8999152
glasses, no glasses
>>8999107
unnatural
>>8998882
best in thread
the only thing is the text
you can see the oversharpening on the rounded curves
splitting hairs though
IM REQUSTIN SAUCE BITCH
filter, emu, game, etc
please anon
>>8998639
kek my coinops build kinda looks like this
it also has scratched glass png over the top too
i can remove it but i kinda like it
>>8998638
see above
its pretty good honestly
sauce
>>8998635
anon plz post src
>>8998630
adjust tint
everything else is close
>>8998609
sharper... sharper! SHARPER!!!!
im not a fan but some people love it
>>8997768
i hate this
look at cloud FFS
even the retrotink2x has better built in scanlines
>>8997287
overly blurry but id still take it over nothing
>>8997196
not bad but the lines need to be rotated to be horizontal not vertical
>>8996958
game loaded, chinese usb gamepad plugged, blinds slightly closed, ready !
>>8996956
not good
look at the detail loss
check the sonic icon in the bottom left
especially egregious
>>8996921
post source
not bad
>>8996847
ok emulation looks like shit on 1080p+ panels anon you need to DO SOMETHING
the many posts in this thread prove you wrong
>>8996837
acceptable
still has oversharpening on curves
but atleast its not blurry af
source
>>8996606
i do like the look
>>8995804
open it up in photoshop
black out the sides remove the wood
remove the nintendo logos and launchback shill shit
post src ill do it for you
>>8995083
kek kinda how i remember bc my tv was a pos
but im sure it wasnt THAT blurry
>>8994330
yay it red now yay
>>8994203
fake and gay
>>8994165
fake and gay

[Anonymous No.9000162]

>>9000101
>i hate this
>look at cloud FFS

I've been through every single Retroarch filter and that's the closest one to my old trinitron(s)

[Anonymous No.9000180]

[Anonymous No.9000183]

>>8993934
>>8993948
>>8993953
>>8996606
>>8996921
>>8997196
>>8998882
>>9000041

>>9000101
all of them use CRT royale with no or little tweaks in between games.

[Anonymous No.9000189]

[Anonymous No.9000220]

>>9000162
i had a trini as a child
and it never looked like this anon

[Anonymous No.9000224]

>>9000183
saved, thnx based anon

[Anonymous No.9000226]

>>8998882
>>9000101
mednafen + mednaffe GUI + Grandia 1 for saturn + reshade, settings were mentioned above

[Anonymous No.9000228]

>>9000189
the heartbreaker, the dagger, the monarch butterfly anti-gmo argument of all hardware purists and CRTfags alike
they are right nothing comes close to the beauty of composite on a proper crt

[Anonymous No.9000232]

>>9000180
if you could turn the damn lines down JUST a BIT
you're nearly there

[Anonymous No.9000236]

>>9000228
>when the last monarch butterfly finally dies,
i hope you think of me & remember what i said

[Anonymous No.9000409]

>>9000183
dunno if you know but there is a more recent version of crt royale with proper scanlines

[Anonymous No.9000663]

>>9000220
That's exactly what RGB scart looked like through a trinitron

Also I was in my '20s during the '90s so my memory is better than yours

[Anonymous No.9000701]

*sips*
Ahhhh.... Just like how it used to look back in the day.

[Anonymous No.9000703]

>>9000663
>RGB scart
Got to be careful saying such dangerous things around these parts.

[Anonymous No.9000753]

[Anonymous No.9001145]

[Anonymous No.9001149]

>>9001145
This is just current mame with hlsl set with 25% scanline, and 25% mask, .6 defocus, and .75 saturation, and no bilinear filtering

[Anonymous No.9001251]

>>9001145
thanks doc

[Anonymous No.9001479]

[Anonymous No.9001582]

>>9001479
Game? Character on the right looks like a
Darkstalkers character but I don't remember this crossover.

[Anonymous No.9001619]

>>9001582
Marvel Vs. Capcom
The first one.

[Anonymous No.9001626]

[Anonymous No.9001645]

[Anonymous No.9002307]

[Anonymous No.9002314]

>>8996847
Is that a young Randy from my name is earl?

[Anonymous No.9002441]

I've just been using easymode-halation on retroarch on my laptop because I like the image to fill out the top and bottom of the screen. It works great for side scrollers, but games with overhead view make the scan lines very noticeable when scrolling up/down. Does anyone have any good recommended shaders or options? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.9002464]

>>9002314
Ethan Suplee, also in The Quarry he's a huge scientologist

[Anonymous No.9002484]

>>9002441
nvm, just the easymode option is far less noticeable. I guess the scanlines being thicker makes it harder to notice when they're slightly thicker? whatever.

[Anonymous No.9002641]

>>9001645
no scanlines?

[Anonymous No.9002703]

>>9000101

https://forums.libretro.com/t/please-show-off-what-crt-shaders-can-do/19193/4765

go to the bottom of this thread. he made it sharper.

[Anonymous No.9003008]

>>8999804
Because according to said devs themselves, they fine-tuned their games to look correct on consumer televisions, since that's what the overwhelming majority of consumers owned

[Anonymous No.9003205]

>>9002641
scanlines

[Anonymous No.9003240]

>>9003205
Is PCSX2 really worth using yet? Last time I tried it, the emulation was still inaccurate and shit.

[Anonymous No.9003296]

>>9003240
It's all we got so I make do.

[Anonymous No.9003316]

>>9003205
>>9003296
You can play both of these games via the PC ports with PS2 restoration mods and not deal with emulation issues

[Anonymous No.9003319]

>>9003316
No shit?

[Anonymous No.9003336]

>>9001645
wait, wut, it's working on hardware now? No untextured planes and clouds work now?

[Anonymous No.9003359]

>>8996847
anti-shader autism is the new pro-shader autism

[Anonymous No.9003371]

>>9003359
>autism is autism
You could've saved yourself some keystrokes.

[Anonymous No.9003372]

[Anonymous No.9003531]

>>9003336
No clouds in hardware mode

[Anonymous No.9003983]

[Anonymous No.9004285]

>>9003983
nice

[Anonymous No.9004560]

[Anonymous No.9004646]

>>9003983
Can you try making them vertical?

[Anonymous No.9004881]

>>9003983

[Anonymous No.9004910]

>>9004881
Which shader is that, I've been mostly using the regular handheld border shaders for all my handhelds.
Although I took out all the recoloring passes since I don't mind hings being super bright.

[Anonymous No.9005009]

[Anonymous No.9005074]

>>9004910
It's either Lottes or Royale.

[Anonymous No.9005636]

>>8991576
Because they are shit
Most games don't benefit from them
Now go kill yourself

[Anonymous No.9005639]

>>8991576
>Compuzit shader for Super Street Fighter 2 Arcade
KILL YOURSELF YOU FUCKING ZOOMIE

[Anonymous No.9005642]

>>8991262
>Cyberlab's death to pixels shaders (not pictured) are fucking amazing
It sucks balls
Use Sony Megatron Shader instead

[Anonymous No.9005668]

>>8991464
Sony Megatron is the best shader right now but it doesn't get shilled nearly enough

[Anonymous No.9005671]

>>8991150
So are shaders still only usable with Retroarch and other launchers or are there standalone emulators that support them?

[Anonymous No.9006293]

>>9005642
>PVMeme

[Anonymous No.9006296]

[Anonymous No.9006301]

>>9005009
Looks a lot like the TV I played this on, what shader/settings is this?

[Anonymous No.9006354]

>>9005671
You can just use reshade for most things.

[Anonymous No.9006380]

>>9005668
Dors it work well on 1080p? Looks gorgeous. Also

>>9003983
This is insane. Possible the most beautiful I've Seen in these threads.
What is it? Resolution ? Bait? It looks too good almost.

[Anonymous No.9006406]

>>9005642
>>9005668
I use Megatron, but I don't tend to shill it because it is a shader with a very specific use case and lacks many of the brightness loss mitigation tricks other shaders employ, so you just know clueless people trying it outside of its intended niche (4K HDR displays or SDR displays with the backlight all the way up) will think it looks too dark and shitty.

[Anonymous No.9006419]

[Anonymous No.9006446]

>>9006380
>What is it? Resolution ? Bait? It looks too good almost.
it's just this xm29 preset
https://pastebin.com/MHjp2axM

[Anonymous No.9006484]

>>9006406
>SDR displays with the backlight all the way up)
Even with that your screen needs to get really, really bright. Mine hits something like 500 cd/m2 and those megatron shaders are still waaaaaaay too dark. I honestly don't know what sort of SDR screen can go bright enough.

[Anonymous No.9006496]

>>9006484
Know what I did? I hacked in a yellow-magenta-cyan mask, and that double the brightness and looks breddy gud. However, it only works in my specific case because I'm outputting at 1080p on a 4K display, since my PC's GPU is too shit to actually output 4K at 60Hz.

[Anonymous No.9006524]

>>9006406
>>9006484
I've tried the Megatron shader on my 4K TV and for some reason, the subpixels don't line up no matter what I do. I get these weird vertical bars.
I just stick with Crt-Easymode with the sharpness lowered

[Anonymous No.9006528]

>>9006524
>I just stick with Crt-Easymode with the sharpness lowered
What do you lower it to?

[Anonymous No.9006603]

>>9006524
What model of TV is it? If it uses a VA panel, chances are it's a BGR subpixel structure, so you need to switch on the relevant parameter to account for that.

[Anonymous No.9006948]

>>8991456
royale is not xm29p
adjust the parameters

[Anonymous No.9006958]

>>9006354
never managed to get the same look on reshade as the preset I had modified on ra
idk why though

[Anonymous No.9007230]

Tip: Adjust beam spot power in CRT-Royale.
This is one of the most important settings.
It controls the level at which point you will see individual dots along a line of pixels. If it is too high you will erase single pixel dots in the image. This scrubs away fine details.
Bring up a screen with lots of little single pixel details.
My favorite is Cammy's stage in Super Street Fighter II Turbo. This is a very good stage to test a lot of features in the image.
You will need to adjust your gamma setting before addressing beam spot power setting. Then go back and forth between them until you are getting a good contrast with lots of detail.
All of the above is directed towards an RGB image to start, but will also affect s-video, composite, and RF.

[Anonymous No.9007398]

>>9007230
Hey nice, this fixed an issue I had

[Anonymous No.9007854]

>>9007398
I am glad.
However, this is a finicky adjustment and you may end up going back and tweaking several times to get it looking just right. In fact, there really isn't any 100% correct setting,

[Anonymous No.9008179]

>>8998630
>>8998635
>>8998638
>>8998639
That looks nothing like VHS distortion
https://youtu.be/x1v9nR6Iff4?t=103

[Anonymous No.9008768]

hate bloom

[Anonymous No.9008849]

[Anonymous No.9008873]

[Anonymous No.9009524]

>>9008179
SOVL

[Anonymous No.9009547]

>>9003372
What border is this?

[Anonymous No.9009554]

[Anonymous No.9009585]

>>9008873
Looks good
>>9008768
>>9009554
Looks bad

[Anonymous No.9009687]

>>9008768
then turn the bloom slider down?

[Anonymous No.9009708]

>>9006958
Reshade version is still work in progress, also there are multiple branches on github.
I accidently used the wrong version for months even though I checked.

[Anonymous No.9009726]

>>8991150
Scanlines and shaders always look like shit. Based low IQ OP still making his thread in spite of terrible tastes.

[Anonymous No.9009734]

>>9008179
You can tell from still images?
VHS Pro is fairly customizable, but the jitter options don't look good. Color bleed and noise is decent though.

[Anonymous No.9009741]

>>9007854
I'm not too concerned about accuracy, only SOVL.

[Anonymous No.9009748]

>>9008768
turn halation or glow
down

[Anonymous No.9009762]

[Anonymous No.9009828]

>>9009762
could use more contrast to match the raw image

[Anonymous No.9009935]

Is this CRT Royale only available for RA?

[Anonymous No.9009973]

>>9009935
there is a reshade port you can use for anything
https://github.com/akgunter/crt-royale-reshade/tree/feature/gaussian-scanlines

[Anonymous No.9010058]

If you're not gonna blur the shit out of it then you might as well use sharp-bilinear.

[Anonymous No.9010565]

>>9009762
Try vertical scanlines on GBA as that's what the real LCD looks like

[Anonymous No.9011274]

[Anonymous No.9012260]

[Anonymous No.9012261]

>>8991150

[Anonymous No.9012306]

>>9008768
What filter is this? I want a filter just like this that "adds" detail but without the bloom. Incredible how much better the spritework looks, even thought crts don't really look like that but whatevs it does the job

[Anonymous No.9012386]

>>9012306
Royale for Reshade but the gamma's bloom is tied to the saturation so I can't get rid of that shit.

[Anonymous No.9013173]

please

[Anonymous No.9014148]

>>8991150
What's this one called? Is there a way to disable the orangeness of it?

[Anonymous No.9014161]

I just CRT-Easymode at default. Subtle and works at non-integer. Using all that fancy bloom and stuff feels pointless on an OLED. Sometimes I throw in sgenspt-mix for a game that really needs it.

[Anonymous No.9014165]

>>9014161
>image got rotated
fug

[Anonymous No.9014425]

>>9008768
>>9012386
set bloom excess to 0?

[Anonymous No.9014476]

>>9012306
some bloom is necessary so the grid doesn't show up on bright parts

[Anonymous No.9014482]

[Anonymous No.9014803]

>>9014476
>that ui
the resolution and the mask aren't scaling properly

[Anonymous No.9014810]

Shaders are for faggots.

[Anonymous No.9014827]

>>9014803
I think he just added a bit too much bloom. Looks fine otherwise.

[Anonymous No.9014835]

>>9014476
>weaved interlacing instead of static

[Anonymous No.9014852]

>>9014810
But what if I want a little handheld border around my handheld emulation?

[Anonymous No.9014893]

>>9014827
Nah, the resolution is off. If he were to play a fully 2D game you would see sprites stretching like they do on the UI. This is why royale and guest for reshade are hard to use. They don't scale properly.
Here's an example of what's going on.
Top is correct scaling, bottom is incorrect.

[Anonymous No.9014989]

>>8991576
>NTSC
literally ameriCANCER

[Anonymous No.9015003]

>>9009524
ZOVILL

[Anonymous No.9015008]

They are cool. I usually just play on my actual CRT though.

[Anonymous No.9015124]

>>9014835
Interlacing is off
>>9014893
I noticed, but I'm playing at a higher resolution so it's not that bothersome

[Anonymous No.9015137]

>>9015124
Really? Cause I play at 4k also and it's super noticeable to me. Almost unplayable. Might as well be playing SNES games at 480i or something. It looks awful.

[Anonymous No.9015194]

>>9015137
You use higher scanline thickness than I do. Text is slightly crusty, but 3D is gorious.

[Anonymous No.9015203]

>>9015194
Oh yeah, for 3D you really wouldn't notice. It's really only 2D stuff that would give you trouble.

[Anonymous No.9015229]

>>9015203
It acts a bit like antialiasing

[Anonymous No.9015481]

Any idea what to apply to XIII? 6th gen cel-shading FPS.

[Anonymous No.9015562]

>>9015124
Use static. Interlacing off is worse.

[Anonymous No.9015801]

[Anonymous No.9015806]

>>9014476
Anon, replace Royale with Guest
https://github.com/guestrr/WinUAE-Shaders
Royale is outdated at this rate

[Anonymous No.9015848]

>>9015801

[Anonymous No.9015898]

>>9015848
take guest advanced, chose mask 10, stagger 2 and interlace 5
also use composite with bilinear on

[Anonymous No.9016243]

>>9015481
I personally wouldn't as the cel shading holds up on LCDs. All you need is some good anti-aliasing (or more resolution I suppose).

[Anonymous No.9016330]

>>9015481
>>9016243

[Anonymous No.9016334]

>>9016330

[Anonymous No.9017236]

>>9016334
Yeah I don't think scanlines add anything to the image.

[Anonymous No.9018289]

[Anonymous No.9018360]

Unchanged.

[Anonymous No.9018364]

Gamma 2.5

[Anonymous No.9018452]

>>9018360
>>9018364
...

[Anonymous No.9018457]

>>8999351
wait what package of shaders is this for?

[Anonymous No.9018516]

torture no fun

[Anonymous No.9018947]

>>9018452
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_correction

Think of gamma as a type of non-linear contrast adjustment. You need good gamma to have good contrast and color saturation.

There's a likely chance that whatever game you'd pick to play in an emulator that it will look better after gamma correction is applied because of way different displays handle the image. This could happen even if you were using a PC CRT monitor.

Gamma choice can be dependent on the lighting conditions of your room.

[Anonymous No.9018953]

>>9018947
BTW you don't really need to overthink the gamma values and go down a rabbit hole. Just pick a value that looks good to you on your monitor.

[Anonymous No.9019358]

>>9018947
right but does that have to do with filters or shader...?

[Anonymous No.9019370]

>>8999804
you are a fucking retard. When these nerdy kids in the 80's were programming games from their dorms, what fucking technology do you think they were using? YOUR THEORY CANNOT EXPLAIN WHY THEY USED DITHERING.

[Anonymous No.9019574]

[Anonymous No.9019659]

hmmm

[Anonymous No.9019723]

>>9011274
Is that a Gaplant??

[Anonymous No.9019730]

[Anonymous No.9019747]

>>9019730
Gamecube didn't produce THAT bad a signal even on component. I still love how this looks though.

[Anonymous No.9019771]

you know i kinda wanna bang the ff6 ghost

[Anonymous No.9019808]

>>9019747
*COMPOSITE
How the fuck are you guys still confusing these?

[Anonymous No.9019810]

>>9018516
nice squiggles
what shader?

[Anonymous No.9019858]

>>9019747
yeah the main reason it looks that bad is cause i tinkered with the settings. I don't think 1080p is enough screen real estate to get an accurate CRT effect for 480 scanlines (I mean, just divide 1080 by 480). So, I tried to get as close to what I wanted from a CRT filter within the constraints of 1080p. Looks shit maybe, but you get some decent colour bleeding which is what I'm really after

[Anonymous No.9019893]

>>9019810
guest-advanced-ntsc

[Anonymous No.9019918]

>>9019730
Do you what you want anon but CRT shading gen 6 games just seems like a waste. Gen 6 games didn't have those black lines so you're just making the game look really fringe-y without much benefit. By then games were being made for sharper CRTs or even LCDs if you were a PCfag.

[Anonymous No.9019926]

I'm getting tired of this shit

[Anonymous No.9019942]

>>9019771
You wanna bang an old man and a little girl? Seriously, because of how the game handles characters, the two ghost characters are actually Strago/Relm.

[Anonymous No.9020073]

>>9019926
Just do the jump slash into shield stab trick, preferably with a deku stick.

[Anonymous No.9020535]

>>9019893
can you post settings please?

[Anonymous No.9021364]

>>9019918
6th gen games still had dithering, and also I played them on a CRT when I was little so yeah shrug emoji

[Anonymous No.9022205]

[Anonymous No.9023187]

>>9020535
https://pastebin.com/raw/NtJHdSsL

[Anonymous No.9023203]

[Anonymous No.9023381]

>>8999152
PC98 IMO looks better with sharp pixels

[Anonymous No.9024815]

bumo

[Anonymous No.9024850]

[Anonymous No.9025042]

I feel like crt shaders are something that I think I should prefer but in every case the pop and lack of noise of unfiltered wins out. maybe if I had a 4k hdr set it'd be different.

[Anonymous No.9025401]

>>9025042
do you play fullscreen, and any late 16 bit, or 32-bit 2D?

[Anonymous No.9025563]

>>9025042
CRT shaders would work better if they had HDR into it to work with blacks
i use reshade on top of them to fix this because some presets gets those ugly outlines that doesnt blend everything

[Anonymous No.9025716]

[Anonymous No.9025874]

[Anonymous No.9026282]

[Anonymous No.9026647]

How embarassing

[Anonymous No.9026732]

>>9025563
HDR is a meme. Just lower your contrast, darken your blacks, and boost saturation. Boom, same effect as HDR.

[Anonymous No.9026950]

>>9026732
You really are a retard

[Anonymous No.9026959]

>>9026950
prove me wrong, nigga

[Anonymous No.9026963]

>>9026959
Your IPS display has a backlight that illuminates the whole screen

[Anonymous No.9026965]

>>9026963
What does that have to do with HDR, retard?

[Anonymous No.9026984]

>>9026965
Do you know how HDR works you fuckface?

[Anonymous No.9027007]

>>9026732
If you boost brightness and saturation too much then you'll get clipping. HDR gives you more headroom to work with as opposed to SDR.
I do agree its a meme but for a different reason: HDR wears out your OLED and using it make retro games brighter is a really silly use. QLED does support HDR but that has problems of its own (poorer black levels & motion clarity). Just accept a slightly dim image or buy a CRT.

[Anonymous No.9027015]

>>9027007
Seems to work well with that new Sony Megatron shader.

[Anonymous No.9027032]

System Shock 2 but with grain and bloom

[Anonymous No.9027039]

>>9027032
The doom64 soundtrack is fucking terrifying, works well with this game

[Anonymous No.9027040]

>>9027039

[Anonymous No.9027202]

How do I make duckstation read shaders?

[Anonymous No.9027251]

I got an hdmi to component adapter so I could hook my gtx 1060 pc up to my samsung CRT TV. I thought it'd be as easy as nvidia control panel custom resolution, but nothing I do works. I tried custom resolution utility but it doesn't work. I have no clue what I'm doing wrong.
Most frustratingly, I actually -can- get nvidia control panel to display a correct image...Only during the test dialog. Soon as I click yes, it flickers and then it goes back to not working.
I'm at wits end. If I could just force nvidia control panel to not do whatever the FUCK it's doing after it tests the resolution it'd work fine.

These settings work until the test dialog finishes and then it's back to a jumbled mess.

[Anonymous No.9027271]

>>9027202
Different retroarch cores may use different rendering API's (OpenGL, directx, etc) and all the slang and cgp and other shader shit is designed for specific renderers. See if fuck station lets you change renderer so that your shader preset will show up

[Anonymous No.9027286]

>>9027251
Shit shit this isn't the crt general fuck me

[Anonymous No.9027296]

>>9027202
Duckstation itself only comes with a couple of shaders ported over from Dolphin. It's not compatible with anything else by itself. You have to either use the RetroArch fork, or use ReShade.

[Anonymous No.9027340]

>>9019358
It has everything to do with them.

[Anonymous No.9027718]

>>9027032
What shaders?
Every bloomshader I tested for reshade had shit performance.

[Anonymous No.9027754]

When it comes to 6th gen 3D games, do you guys prefer to just upscale the graphics, or do you use shaders?

[Anonymous No.9027763]

>>9027032
huh, film grain works surprisingly well there

[Anonymous No.9027803]

>>9027754
fxaa, deband and lumasharpen goes on any game

[Anonymous No.9027834]

>>9027754
upscale 200% (not more) and FXAA
oh and de-interlace

[Anonymous No.9027875]

>>9018457
Retroarch, its called Metacrt

[Anonymous No.9027929]

>>9027271
>fuck station
lol

[Anonymous No.9027980]

>>9027015
Oh it definitely works, I just think its a silly thing to wear out your monitor over. I guess QLED users won't have to care though.

[Anonymous No.9028541]

How do I get rid of the weird artifact square patterns of masks that appear when objects are blinking or changing color? It's really ugly and distracting. Also some masks shimmer a lot when scrolling and moving, is this expected?
Is it because I'm on 1080p? I don't get it. The blinking artifacts are especially annoying because it does it with most masks that look good.

[Anonymous No.9028556]

>>9004910
which shader is this?
I'm fond of the look
except for the console image

[Anonymous No.9028570]

>>9028556
It's gba-lcd-grid-v2 after some tinkering to keep the colors bright.
And I made a new border since I didn't like the black gba it came with.
Glacier was my jam.

[Anonymous No.9028576]

>>9028570
mind sharing your settings?
I think i'll go for the usual desaturated gba colors though

[Anonymous No.9028601]

>>9028576
I just deleted the pass of gba-color from the shader.

[Anonymous No.9028627]

A lot of these screenshots look like shit honestly.

[Anonymous No.9028636]

>>9028570
>crtyifying an lcd screen

[Anonymous No.9028649]

[Anonymous No.9028883]

>>9028570
Looks bad as the lines are too pronounced. Also those handheld screen frames or whatever you call them are cringe.

[Anonymous No.9029126]

[Anonymous No.9029174]

[Anonymous No.9029206]

>>9028883
Oh you're right, that's a screenshot of gba-retro by mistake.
I switched to lcd-grid-v2 afterward for reasons yuo stated; retro looked too blocky.

[Anonymous No.9029235]

>>9029206
this looks nice but I don't like that the whites don't bleed through the lcd grid, looks too dark

[Anonymous No.9029262]

>PC can only do 1080p but everything works great and I can use lunchbox
>Xbox SX can do 4k on my TV but a lot of cores are bonked
Fucking hell

[Anonymous No.9029309]

>>9029262
Don't bother with emulating on Series X anymore. Microsoft keeps on finding ways to shut it down and the people in charge are incompetent and egotistical. The guy who runs the discord is also a huge dickhead who basically doesn't do anything and makes all his underlings fix things while he shills his youtube channel.

[Anonymous No.9029367]

>>9027718
QuintBloom.fx and filmgrain.fx

Performance is fine and I'm playing on a Thinkpad t430

[Anonymous No.9029376]

>>9029367
Looks really good in motion, hard to believe the game is over 20 years old now with just a few post processing effects, otherwise i'm playing vanilla since its my first go at this game

[Anonymous No.9029894]

>>9029174
nice chin

[Anonymous No.9029946]

[Anonymous No.9029948]

[Anonymous No.9029950]

hmm this meta shader is kinda cool

[Anonymous No.9029985]

thank god for shader makers

[Anonymous No.9030075]

Shaders look better than original hardware on a CRT

[Anonymous No.9030217]

>>9029309
Yeah, I turned off auto-updates out of fear of losing saves.

[Anonymous No.9030326]

>>9006354
soul.

[Anonymous No.9030332]

so do you guys actually play the games or do you just dick around with shaders?

[Anonymous No.9030486]

>>9030332
>/vr/
>play games
Lol no. If you aren't screaming at someone else that their childhood experience was wrong and yours is the only true way to experience a game then you don't belong here.

[Anonymous No.9030542]

>>9030332
both

[Anonymous No.9030568]

>>9030542
love the whites

[Anonymous No.9030580]

>>9028541

Here is what I mean. The bubble is blinking tonsimulate transparency and it gives a strange grid effect. It's not THAT visible in the picture because it's a motion induced effect but the camera still captured it a little. Is my panel the problem?

[Anonymous No.9030585]

>>9030580
i dont understand the issue
can you printscreen it

[Anonymous No.9030696]

>>9030585
It doesn't show up in screenshots, it kiiinda shows up in the picture because of exposition. On the bubble with dr light's head,you can see part of the mask with a more intense color, in a regular pattern. In actual motion, this forms an ugly square grid of thin grey/black lines, on any object that is blinking, or transitioning colors rapidly (prominent in screen fades for example). I am thinking maybe it's a scaling issue...maybe I should try to stretch the image a bit. I use integrer scale and overscan.

[Anonymous No.9030718]

>>9030696
do you have afterglow in your shader preset?

[Anonymous No.9030923]

>>9030580
Incorrect uneven resolution or aspect ratio and you need to set the refresh rate correctly or have a VRR display to get the correct flashing effect

[Anonymous No.9031128]

>>9030718
>>9030923
Doubt it's afterglow since some shaders with prominent masks have or don't have it and it does it with all of them as long as masks are decently visible. I will try resize and maybe different hz tonight. I play with ULMB (strobing) at 60hz so can't use gsync and shit but I'll try just to see if it's the issue. I'm guessing it's the resolution since I also get shimmering. I just use 4:3, maybe I'll stretch it horizontally or some shit. The masks are pretty as fuck but give me trouble.

[Anonymous No.9031298]

>>9031128
What display is it anyway?

[Anonymous No.9031440]

>>8991150
What is the goto shader filter if I don't want to mess around and just set and forget? Specially for 8 and 16 bit consoles.

[Anonymous No.9031447]

>>9031440
Maybe an easymode or something.
I'm not sure since I tweak the shit out of everything.

[Anonymous No.9031512]

>>9031447
I'm read that too, Easymode or Royale, I guess I can't go wrong with those?

[Anonymous No.9031556]

I love how these threads are people going out of their way to make screenshots showing off their shaders, and then the lazy people come in and go "shit shader would NEVER use"

[Anonymous No.9031624]

>>8991150
Why do I have thick (like 1cm thick) lines of black going from left to right when trying to use CRT Royale with N64?

[Anonymous No.9031670]

>>9031440
Easymode. Simple, clean, looks decent out of the box, and even works well without integer scaling.

[Anonymous No.9031672]

>>9031624
First of all, CRT-Royal ain't that good anymore. Try guest-advanced instead. Second of all, what plugin are you trying to use with it? Increasing internal resolution can fuck with the shader.

[Anonymous No.9031701]

>>9031298
Acer predator xb272. Bought it cause it's one of the 27 inchers that can be hacked for single strobe, which is really nice.

So I tried bumping up afterglow, different scaling options, gsync, gsync at 120hz, different values etc, still the same thing. Guess I'll just have to live without prominent masks.

Here's a better pic of the issue, Every one of those vertical lines on light's face actually appears black IRL. It's weird. Ah well, some shaders look good even without prominent masks.

[Anonymous No.9031718]

>>9031701
Do you happen to know what the subpixel structure of that monitor is? RGB, BGR, etc.? That can fuck masks up if you don't set them up correctly, since they rely heavily on subpixel behavior.

[Anonymous No.9031824]

>>9031718
Seems to be RGB and v-RGB according to this

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/subpixel.php#subpixel.png

[Anonymous No.9031838]

>>9031824
Pretty sure it can only be one of those, anon, not both.

Anyway, I just researched a bit, and it's a TN panel, which is not ideal at all. They tend to fuck up colors quite a bit. It could also be it doesn't like the way the mask manipulates details at the subpixel level. Some time ago I tried a shader that worked just fine on my 1080p IPS panel on a small shitty 1080p TV I had lying around, and it completely murdered the mask emulation, like it didn't know what to do with the alternating patterns so it just shat out some dull muted colors.

[Anonymous No.9031926]

[Anonymous No.9032003]

>>9031926
Please use integer scaling, anon. Those unevenly-spaced scanlines are painful to look at.

[Anonymous No.9032026]

god help me

[Anonymous No.9032410]

>>9031447
>>9031670
Is there anything I have to change? Just loading the shader, it barely changes the picture, still pretty sharp.

[Anonymous No.9032415]

>>9032410
IIRC it just overlays light scanlines and a light mask with a bit of blur. At the very least the scanlines should be there.

[Anonymous No.9032461]

>>9032415
What about filters that would make composite dithering work? Really annoys seeing individual pixels instead of the dithered shade
Also thanks for your help, filters are new territory for me

[Anonymous No.9032473]

>>9032461
There's various ways to go about it. Some emulators/cores have NTSC filters built-in which you can enable to work alongside your shader of choice. They'll usually do the job for the purpose you bring up, but I personally have issues with how they degrade the image overall (not to mention they're not actually as accurate to real hardware as so many people like to proclaim they are). There's also NTSC shaders which will work with anything, but you have to either use a shader preset that already has one, or else add it yourself. I do not know if there's a premade NTSC+Easymode preset, though they do exist for crt-geom, crt-guest-drvenom, and others. Lastly, there's dithering blend shaders such as gdapt and mdapt that you can try combining with a CRT shader, which will attempt to blend dithering without resorting to blur or composite artifacts.

[Anonymous No.9032478]

>>9032473
Thanks, I'll play around a little with them and see

[Anonymous No.9032519]

[Anonymous No.9032550]

>>8991150
Real CRT TV chads, what filter do you use to get composite effects on your RGB sets?

[Anonymous No.9032554]

>>9032550
>real crt
>rgb
lol

[Anonymous No.9032639]

>>9032554
I mean CRT TV hooked up over RGB to your PC for emulation.

[Anonymous No.9032771]

[Anonymous No.9033180]

[Anonymous No.9033184]

>>9031838
It seemed to me it met both conditions on the website,maybe cause it can be rotated.

Yeah it could be just a flaw of the panel. It's pretty alright otherwise. Single strobe is really really nice. Much less brightness loss than bfi. And the monitor doesn't lag that badly when put in 60hz unlike the benq I have. The masks that emulate high TVL displays work just fine.They're barely visible tho so I lose that "retro" effect. I also like yaving 27 inches, makes me really feel like I'm playing on a nice TV.
Guess in like two years I may get something that does 4k and single strobe and works better.
Launching dark souls remastered on single strobe is really something else. Or any 3D 60 FPS game. Love it.
Singl

[Anonymous No.9033438]

[Anonymous No.9033481]

>>9032550
Nobody?

[Anonymous No.9033567]

[Anonymous No.9033721]

>>9032771
what is this? I don't remember this scene

[Anonymous No.9033723]

Pmub

[Anonymous No.9033784]

>>9033721
Final Fantasy VI T-Edition.