/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8981942]

*mogs quake*

[Anonymous No.8983059]

*quakes mog*

[Anonymous No.8983272]

>>8983059
*quacks quake*

[Anonymous No.8983289]

I prefer Unreal, but I think it's hard to compare the two. Unreal has a much slower pacing overall and a very different atmosphere feel.

[Anonymous No.8983293]

Zoomers discovered Unreal

[Anonymous No.8983331]

Pro Unreal when, Civvie?

[Anonymous No.8983402]

>>8981942
>dodgeroll
no

[Anonymous No.8983445]

>>8983402
What's wrong with dodgeroll?

[Anonymous No.8983474]

Quake feels better. Unreal is weirdly clunky after getting used to quake.

[Anonymous No.8983792]

>>8981942
*mogs quake*

[Anonymous No.8984551]

>>8981942
LOL no

[Anonymous No.8984554]

>>8983792
Quake 1? No.
Quake 2 and every future boring ass Carmack tech demo """"""game"""""? Hell yes.

[Anonymous No.8984746]

>>8984554
I didn't know John Romero posted here

[Anonymous No.8984752]

>there are """"""people"""""" on this very board who willingly harm nali

[Anonymous No.8984795]

>>8983792
*big sword*

[Anonymous No.8985319]

>>8984752
more liek niggali

[Anonymous No.8985438]

*maps Quark's*

[Anonymous No.8985735]

>>8984752
IT WAS AN ACCEDENT I WAS SHOOTING AT THE SKAARJ

[Anonymous No.8985764]

>>8984752
Some of those fuckers are hard to save

[Anonymous No.8985772]

CoD > Unreal > Battlefield > Quake > Doom > MoH

[Anonymous No.8985960]

>>8985772

Where does Hydlide fit in?

[Anonymous No.8985981]

Quake 1 was beaten by Unreal, Quake 2 was worse than Quake 1 and Unreal.
I don't know why people deny this. I love Quake too it's just fact.

[Anonymous No.8986132]

>>8985981
>unreal better than quake
Keep that to yourself timmy

[Anonymous No.8986139]

>>8984746
Romero actually loves quake 2 cause he has good taste.

[Anonymous No.8986146]

>>8986139
He also loves the Phalanx in Q2Reckoning.

[Anonymous No.8986605]

>>8985438
You've made this station a boring shore leave stop, human

[Anonymous No.8986613]

>>8981942
Quake had more oomph. Unreal is kinda floaty laser-tag combat and the glossy bright lighting always looked uncanny to me.

[Anonymous No.8986617]

>>8984752
>play it in coop
>the other player starts to kill all the nalis

[Anonymous No.8987017]

>>8981942
hard to say what is better.

they are both very 7/10 games. Quake certainly has the better levels, enemy design, and movement in general. but Unreal has a better presentation, more advanced AI, and better weapon arsenal.

[Anonymous No.8987091]

https://youtu.be/ldcvSFlUd3o?t=425
bros...

[Anonymous No.8987349]

It mogged Half-Life as well

[Anonymous No.8987360]

https://guides.gamercorner.net/ffvi/spells/demi
*halves Mog's life*

[Anonymous No.8987385]

>>8983331
Fuck that.
When is he gonna man up and play Q2's Ground Zero? He bitched out of The Reckoning because of 'muh bad design' bullshit and I think he used that as an excuse because GZ's Hard+ is tougher than hammering nails through your dick.

[Anonymous No.8987469]

>>8987385
he got filtered by the Mission pack's difficulty
Xatrix is evil as redneck rampage and rogue is a birth...

[Anonymous No.8987493]

>>8985981
I agree. But Quake is still great fun for something to just blast through. Unreal is more fun to explore in for me and the AI is more interesting to fight.

[Anonymous No.8987513]

>>8981942
You have to post a real, proper screenshot, and YES this IS a real PC game screenshot.

[Anonymous No.8987540]

>>8981942
Visually? Absolutely.
Gameplay? Fuck no. Quake had nearly the perfect fast-paced shooter formula. Unreal is a slog in comparison.

>>8987513
I dont get why people make fun of this. At the time that was a pretty detailed and good looking model for a real-time game.
Same with the "Playstation can produce amazing effects" one. King's Field was a PS1 launch title, so that was some of the first polygonal 3D gaming people had seen.

[Anonymous No.8987572]

>>8987540
It's funny in hindsight that's all anon don't get worked up. I literally had that issue and yes for the time it was impressive.

[Anonymous No.8987709]

>>8987540
>I dont get why people make fun of this.
I don't either.
I also disagree about quake though. It's great, but I don't think it's perfect, and I prefer Unreal. Unreal gets off to a slower start though.
Honestly though they're not great to compare outside of MP. Single player they were going for different things, and both succeeded individually. I guess that's why the which-is-better argument continues to this day.
>opinions

[Anonymous No.8987957]

>>8984554
>tech demo
Unlike Unreal?
Epic knew they developed a great looking (and sounding) engine and they made sure to show it off as much as they could. The actual content and level design? Eh. Everybody seem to remember that waterfall and drawing distance though.

[Anonymous No.8988226]

Boomer shooters lost something magic at the release of Quake. Stuff like Doom and Duke are still a hell of a lot of fun to pick up for the first time today, whereas Quake/Unreal are "you had to be there"-type stuff. Don't care if I've enraged any boom-booms by saying this, I am correct.

[Anonymous No.8988323]

>>8985764
The one in the church is dead meat if you aren't ready for the ambush trigger.

[Anonymous No.8988431]

Unreal looks like cardboard. It's hard to explain. Quake on the other hand looks 'fuller' it just feels better I dont know why.

[Anonymous No.8988452]

>>8988226
You're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.8988542]

>>8988226
no you are retarded. Unreal and Quake 1 is still an unforgettable experience.
Pixel shooters only impress basedboy autists. Fuck you zoomer.

[Anonymous No.8988653]

>>8988226
23 year old zoomer here. Quake and Unreal are still great games. Shut up fag.

[Anonymous No.8988883]

>>8983792
>*mogs romero*

[Anonymous No.8989180]

>>8983792
>*mogs quake*

*But still uses the Quake II engine*
Take that, Carmack!

[Anonymous No.8989184]

all the boomer shooters are still great games, if you think otherwise you've either never played an actual bad game before or you just don't like fps

[Anonymous No.8989640]

>>8988452
Wrong. I'm correct. Boom-boom mad.

>>8988542
They really aren't, though. They are unforgettable if you played them at the time, which is what I said. Great reading comprehension.

>>8988653
They're fine, they're not great.

[Anonymous No.8989651]

>>8989184
This. Even barely playable games like Daikatana have way more creativity and soul poured into them than the latest Battlefield or Call of Duty.

[Anonymous No.8989701]

>>8989640
And also >>8988653 they were great games *at the time*, but the equivalent of un-buttered toast today. You can't say that about Doom or Duke. Quake and Unreal are both tech-demos first, games second. That's completely fine, I can't and won't argue against their influence. But that doesn't make for a very interesting experience, 20 years later. Doom, on the other hand, is still an incredibly distinct experience, head-to-toe. There's a reason that Classic Doom has seen resurgences over and over, while Quake continues to play second fiddle with "did you know the soundtrack was done by Trent Reznor?".

[Anonymous No.8989732]

>>8989640
no one can play unreal and not get goosebumps, that game is literally Unreal

[Anonymous No.8989737]

>>8989701
you are so full of shits its hilarious, you pixel shit shooter hipsters are just annoying.

[Anonymous No.8989764]

>>8989737
Have fun with yellow-brown hallway number 758

[Anonymous No.8989882]

I did not play Unreal back when it came out nor did I play Unreal Tournament for some reason (I mostly played Quake). So I checked both out in recent years; UT99 is fantastic, slightly better than Quake Arena. Unreal 1 starts off nicely, with good aesthetic and interesting progression. Then you realize that every enemy just strafes wildly until you fill up his damage quota so he croaks over. Unreal goes over into the Half-Life territory but doesn't have Valve's knack for creating setpieces - not even with that hallway lights shutdown scene. I found its gameplay to be really shitty and got bored after a few hours. If anything the game is overrated.

[Anonymous No.8989915]

>>8989882
You're just bad

[Anonymous No.8989954]

>>8988226
Duke 3D and Quake released the same year, dummy

[Anonymous No.8989960]

>>8989954
>the same year

Which one came out first, dummy?

[Anonymous No.8989968]

>>8989960
Your waxing poetic bullshit is entirely incoherent, nothing was lost by FPS becoming 3D and there were still plenty of Build or other non 3D shooters released into the late 90s.

[Anonymous No.8989998]

>>8989968
>Nothing was lost by FPS becoming 3D

Except for monster count, monster variety and map variety, sure. Obviously the build games would be in the earlier (i.e. more interesting) camp, I'm talking about shift in trends, I'm not *literally* saying that everything fell apart on a given date. You can't call what I'm saying "incoherent" if that's what stumping you lol. If you think what I'm saying is "waxing poetic", that's on you, dipshit.

[Anonymous No.8990017]

>>8989998
And I'm specifically talking about Quake vs Doom on that first line, I'm not talking about 3D FPS into the 00s as a whole there.

[Anonymous No.8990026]

>>8981942
AHAHAHAHAHAHA, no.

[Anonymous No.8990031]

>>8989998
You probably haven’t even played half the classic shooters if you really think vanilla Doom is the peak. Also the brown and yellow comments, my man did you even finish Doom II which features a very similar palette?

[Anonymous No.8990057]

>>8990031
This is on me - I didn't make it clear enough that I'm not specifically talking about vanilla Doom on DOS. I'm talking broad strokes, classic Doom as a whole vs classic Quake as a whole, including mods and any modern bells and whistles. If someone had never played either and wanted to play one today, they'd almost certainly pick Doom, and that's not just because of brand-recognition, it's just more interesting than Quake. That's my point.

[Anonymous No.8990060]

>>8988226
unquasis, how we'll recover?

[Anonymous No.8990359]

I got this game for free on GOG, reinstalled it about 3 times. I really wanted to give it a fair shake, but I've been dragging my feet through the first quarter of the it (Terraniux Underground). Does the gameplay get any different or do I have to expect more of the same? I'm bored out of my mind and I don't really care about "getting it" anymore. I'm sure people really love Unreal to death, that it's the greatest achievement in human history, and everything else is pointless crap for uneducated idiots; fair enough, but I really don't think it's for me. Should I just give up now or does something amazing happen and the remaining 3/4 are any different? (Genuine question since Quake IV gameplay is frustrating until you get the strogg treatment).

[Anonymous No.8990467]

>>8990060
I don't know exactly what you mean but this thread seems to be making it pretty clear that the way to accomplish anything is to "mog" something - so, try starting there, just mog whatever you have around you maybe

[Anonymous No.8990487]

zoomers discovering retro fps was a mistake

[Anonymous No.8990494]

>Doom
mogged by Ultima Underworld

[Anonymous No.8990574]

>>8990359
Drop it. If you don't like it, then it's not for you.
The main features of Unreal (weapons with two fire modes, the landscapes, enemies you have to use different methods and attacks to deal with, looking out for secrets, etc) have been shown to you at that point and the only thing to look for from there is harder fights, be them groups of enemies or bosses. And the exploration coupled with the music — at least that's what hooked me to it a couple of years ago when I replayed it.
Maybe you're feeling burned and putting it down or playing it later at a lower difficulty could help you, but I'll spoil a bit for you if you want to stop there: you explore a temple, a wrecked terran ship, more temples and canyon passes; you infiltrate Skaarj facilities and their mothership. You deal with more Skaarj, you fight Alien Satan in a cave and at the end you kill their queen, just to escape and end in a 'cliffhanger' for Return to Na Pali, which is more of the same but with human forces butting it.

[Anonymous No.8990632]

>>8990574
The highlight of the game for me was ascending the Sunspire and reaching the floating Na Pali city. It felt like such an epic halfway point in the player's journey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTZ0FTtimBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xVoWIpxL4Q

[Anonymous No.8991272]

>>8990467
un(real) qua(ke( sis(ters), how will we recover

[Anonymous No.8992573]

>>8983402
you don't roll, it's also useful to get up slopes you normally cant to get to some inaccessible areas

[Anonymous No.8993105]

>>8990632
You did jump off the Sunspire, right?

[Anonymous No.8993134]

>>8990359
if you dislike unreal you dislike videogames in general
im with you, its a struggle and now i just pretend to enjoy these games still
>you will never feel the magic of actually wanting to see what happens next
>you will never again play longer than an hour without feeling tired or bored

[Anonymous No.8993247]

OKEY SMARTY maybe its from regis fillbarn and somebody on teh show "WHO WANTS TOO BE A MILAIONAIRE" wants too use yuo as a lifeline! MAYBE THE QUESTION IS "WHO MAKES A FAGOT SMARTY MAN GAME WITH NALI HEALING FRUITS?" "OH, THAN THAT I WUOLD LIKE TO CALL MY SMARTY FIREND CLIFF BELZINSAKISKI, KING OF UNREALE " haha, no millone dolars for yuo tho

[Anonymous No.8993327]

For me, it's fighting the marines
https://youtu.be/kmGHwnVbIEc

[Anonymous No.8993957]

>>8993327
That point is pure, unfiltered bullshit and I'm glad you only fight them once.
>Spawn out of nowhere.
>They use the new rocket launcher that has ridiculous splash damage.
>And can use the new assault rifle, being able to snipe you down with a hitscan weapon with no recoil from all the way across the ship.
>Triggering the sequence from the bridge puts you in a poorly defendable position unless you go out.
Fuck that part.

[Anonymous No.8993961]

Tired of you Unrealkiddies shitting on us Quakedads.

[Anonymous No.8994038]

>>8988226
>>8989184
>boomer shooter
I prefer the term "Mentally Stunted Millenial Shooter" because its an accurate description of the people who can't shut the fuck up about these shitty games.

[Anonymous No.8995891]

>>8994038
I always called them fast paced shooter, this "boomer shooter" thing is retarded

[Anonymous No.8996008]

>>8981942
another one to add to the list

[Anonymous No.8996937]

>>8987385
>>8987469
Has he ever played a game on the hardest difficulty? Last I know he struggled like a bitch on Blood's Ultra Violence difficulty.

[Anonymous No.8996943]

>>8994038
>>8995891
okay newfags thank you for your opinion.