/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8968000]

Greatest love story since Romeo & Juliet

[Anonymous No.8968003]

Even Tidus and Yuna had more chemistry.

[Anonymous No.8968010]

I don't think a single game has ever destroyed a genre like ff8 did. jrpgs went right back to irrelevance after it.

[Anonymous No.8968012]

>>8968000
trips of truth

its not a love story
its about fate, time, destiny, war, politics, the corrupt educational system, while simultaneously proving that no matter what soulmates will beat the odds and find eachother

[Anonymous No.8968015]

>>8968010
mental gymnastics

if you were somehow right, which you aren't -
it would mean that every jrpg after it got BTFO by ff8

[Anonymous No.8968021]

>>8968000
It has its moments toward the end, but >>8968003
is right, they tried to make a love story but - like all of FF8 - it turned out to be a clusterfuck.

[Anonymous No.8968025]

>>8968000
its not just the best rpg ever made
its not just the best final fantasy ever made
it transcends the medium and is possibly the best game ever made.

>story so profound and esoteric/allegorical that even the hardcore fanbase was mostly confused

that level of pretentiousness will never be pulled off with such grandeur ever again

[Anonymous No.8968029]

>>8968021
FFX literally sucked
replay it as an adult with objective taste


nothing about has aged well

[Anonymous No.8968130]

>>8968029
I have no desire to replay it, but (except for the big plot twist) it was not an autistic mess like FF8

[Anonymous No.8968154]

>>8968130
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand final fantasy viii. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical players head. There's also squalls nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these weaving plotlines, to realise that they're not just playing though a cookiecutter rpg- the game truly says something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike FF8 truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in squalls existential catchphrase "Whatever," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as nobuo uematsus genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

[Anonymous No.8968162]

>>8968012
and then ye die.

[Anonymous No.8968169]

>>8968029
It’s got cool music, and Lulu and Rikku, and also Auron who is cool

[Anonymous No.8968172]

>>8968169
does it have a random pop song at the end that hit the top 100 randomly as an off-the-wall home run?

eyes on me is a masterpiece

[Anonymous No.8968190]

>>8968172
It wasn’t a “random pop song”. Faye Wong was hired by the dev team to record it for the game.

[Anonymous No.8968197]

>>8968190
they didnt expect it to be an out of the park homerun on the charts though

[Anonymous No.8968198]

>>8968172
Suteki Da Ne? Admittedly I don’t like either as much as Melodies of Life.

[Anonymous No.8968206]

>>8968197
Maybe, but it wasn’t random. Choose your wording more carefully next time.

[Anonymous No.8968212]

>>8968206
the idea is v random &
only happened because of ff7s success

you think square would be wasting money like that on any other game?

[Anonymous No.8968226]

>>8968212
I don’t think the concept is strange considering it’s a big budget JRPG with a pop song geared toward the Japanese market.

[Anonymous No.8968292]

>>8968226
Were you alive at the time? FF8 was designed as an experiment to see if an RPG could be considered a cultural phenomenon, the same way as a blockbuster movie. Didn't work, but I think that's mostly because the game itself is just ok.

[Anonymous No.8968307]

>>8968292
FFVII was also marketed like a summer blockbuster event movie and it’s a huge part of why it sold so well in the west. I don’t know how you can call FFVIII a failure by any metric. It was easily one of the best selling video games of 1999.

[Anonymous No.8968320]

>>8968307
>FFVII was also marketed like a summer blockbuster event movie
Yes, I'm aware. Probably not Square's idea, but they certainly leaned into it for FF8.
>I don’t know how you can call FFVIII a failure by any metric.
Until that point, every US-released FF had been getting a better reception than the last. While FF8 sold a lot, this was due to FF7's reputation, and its legs quickly dropped out.

[Anonymous No.8968327]

>>8968029
Everything about it has aged well bro

[Anonymous No.8968329]

>>8968320
>While FF8 sold a lot, this was due to FF7's reputation, and its legs quickly dropped out.

I see no real world proof of this. The game was well reviewed, sold millions of copies and continues to be re-released on modern consoles. What more do you want?

[Anonymous No.8968363]

>>8968329
>I see no real world proof of this
Where is FF8 Remake?

[Anonymous No.8968367]

>>8968363
Is that really what it would take to justify it as a successful game to you? Why?

[Anonymous No.8968380]

>>8968367
Less successful than its predecessor, certainly. Why am I even having this debate when the facts are obvious? Shut up retard.

[Anonymous No.8968382]

>>8968380
The facts aren’t obvious, you simply like VII more than VIII. VIII was objectively a very successful Final Fantasy release in every conceivable way.

[Anonymous No.8968615]

>>8968154
this pasta falls flat because VIII might be the most humourless entry in the series

[Anonymous No.8968821]

>>8968000
I really enjoyed FFVIII on PS4 but I’ll admit I wouldn’t have finished it without using the built-in cheats. Same goes for the other PS1 era FF games on modern consoles.

[Anonymous No.8968827]

>>8968000
the real romance was between Seifer and Edea the Witch

that is a very deep story

[Anonymous No.8968916]

>>8968382
Not him, but I agree with Anon. All he said was that up until FF8, every subsequent FF after the original sold better than the one immediately preceding it. FF8 did not sell as well as FF7. I've no horse in this race as I dislike both immensely, but his statement is an incontrovertible fact, regardless of which FF games you like.

Final Fantasy Famicom sold 600,000 units in Japan. Final Fantasy II, 800,000 units. Final Fantasy III, 1.4 million. FF IV on Super Famicom, 1.5 million units. FFV, 2.45 million. FFVI, 2.55 million. FFVII, 4.2 million. Now, we've come to Final Fantasy VIII. Care to guess how many units it sold? Don't. As you clearly misunderstand plainly written English, I'm sure you'll get it wrong, so I'll just tell you: 3.7 million. Last I checked, 3.7 < 4.2, a drop of 500,000 units of sale. Especially when you compare it to the growth in sales FF7 experienced over FF6 (1.65 million). Worldwide, FF8 also performed poorly (within the context of sales growth).
To me? They're all kinda bad and I'll will never understand their popularity, but numbers don't lie, pic related.

[Anonymous No.8968940]

>>8968000
3rd best FF game ever made. Only brainlets don't appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.8969332]

>>8968363
please please please never let them do this

[Anonymous No.8969336]

>>8968615
whatever

[Anonymous No.8969346]

>>8968916
I’m not denying anything you’ve posted. My point was always that FFVIII was an objectively successful game no matter how you slice it, even if it didn’t reach the heights of FFVII, which would’ve been a very tall order indeed.

[Anonymous No.8969360]

>>8968916
selling millions of copies is by no stretch a failure
saying it sold less than ff7 is an unfair comparison
and likely impossible even if it was a 10/10

FF8 gets flamed because it has a story that is not easily digestible & VERY strange magic system (compared to materia)

[Anonymous No.8970602]

>>8968363
YOU SHUT YOUR FUCKING WHORE MOUTH

[Anonymous No.8970668]

Not even the greatest love story in Final Fantasy

[Anonymous No.8970672]

>>8968029
I thought it was cringe at 12 years old. Dropped it and never played it again.

[Anonymous No.8970676]

Rinoa is a SLUT

[Anonymous No.8971602]

>>8969346
>>8969360
In terms of sales growth, yes: it is indeed a failure. I understand it sold millions but remember that in business, if you're not growing, you're failing.

Due to its failure to attract growth, FF8 has had scant rereleases (two, IINM?) as well as zero spin-offs and reboots. In fact, only one other mainline FF game has achieved that same "honour" of no spin-offs or reboots and only two rereleases, IINM: FF9. FF6, for example, has no spin-offs or reboots, but was rereleased five or six times now.
To be fair, FF8 sold more guidebooks than any other FF game, I think. Nearly 4 million worldwide, IINM, well over double FF7's puny (in comparison) 1,5mil. I can only guess why it sold so many books but I'm sure all of my attempts would fall short of the truth.

[Anonymous No.8971608]

>quinoa
>pronounced "keen-wah"
Is Rinoa pronounced "reen-wah," then?
I always said "Ri'no-wah" like adding the first two letters of "rinse" to the front of the biblical name "Noah." How about y'all?

[Anonymous No.8971614]

>>8971608
>>quinoa
>>pronounced "keen-wah"
God I hate exclusively English speaking people so much it's unreal.

[Anonymous No.8971634]

>>8971608
Their names are pronounced Quin-ah and Rin-oh-wa
I don't care if this is what japs intended because they think Ti is pronounced Tee, and Aeris should be pronounced with a san fran fag lisp.

[Anonymous No.8971885]

>>8971614
The irony of you calling me an "exclusively English speaking" person is delicious.
Friend, English isn't even my /second/ language. It's my fourth. But we're on an English language website so I'm using the most common English language pronunciation. When I'm speaking English, I don't pronounce "spaghetti" with a geminated T, "perestroika" with a trilled R or penultimate stress or "sauna" with three syllables, either. Doing so needlessly calls attention to oneself rather than what one is saying. It's rude and serves only to alienate the listener.

>>8971634
Didn't ask about Quina, friend.

[Anonymous No.8971903]

>>8971602
FF8 is available on:
PlayStation
PS3
PSP/Vita
Switch
Xbox One
PS4
Windows

[Anonymous No.8971907]

>>8971903
Forgot iPhone/iPad

[Anonymous No.8971989]

>>8971903
>>8971907
>she thinks ports are the same as rereleases and reboots

[Anonymous No.8972196]

>>8971989
You have a weird axe to grind against Final Fantasy 8.

[Anonymous No.8973560]

FF8 is objectively pretty awful

[Anonymous No.8974697]

>>8972196
Not at all. I just dislike the inaccurate description of a port, whether emulated on VC/PSN or otherwise, as a rerelease.
That's like saying The ABC Sunday Night Movie, which aired every Sunday between 1960something to the late 90s, was a rerelease of whatever movie they happened to air that week. No. That would be an inaccurate and disingenuous claim to make.

[Anonymous No.8976263]

>>8968000
Based. FFX trannies seething

[Anonymous No.8976326]

>>8974697
the pc version is a remaster
the switch version is a remaster
the vita/pstv version is possibly a remaster (if they changed anything)

you are not the arbiter of what constitutes a portVSrerelease

if ANYTHING is changed from the ps1 iso guess what

[Anonymous No.8976328]

>>8970668
we are the sum of our deeds, not our names

[Anonymous No.8976514]

>>8976326
sweetheart, anon is saying that the pc, switch and vita versions /are ports of each other/, not of the ps original, you big, disingenuous silly : )

[Anonymous No.8977768]

>>8968000
Alright, ENOUGH
I have played FF7 about 100 times, but could never finish 8 past like 1 hour.
Now, by coincidence, I see this thread on the same day I bought a phat PS2 for $40 that came with the FF8.

So now, I swear on this thread that I will beat FF8
What do I need to know? Give me a few tips. I seem to remember grinding the card game to get Tornado magic to pair on fagboy's sword so that I could beat the spider mech in one hit.

[Anonymous No.8977790]

>>8977768
>What do I need to know? Give me a few tips. I seem to remember grinding the card game to get Tornado magic to pair on fagboy's sword so that I could beat the spider mech in one hit.
Forget about the card game unless you really enjoy the minigame itself. You don't need to draw all the time or play the card game extensively. The best way to enjoy the game is playing as normal and then refine the items you win in battle into magic using GF abilities. That way the game keeps a reasonable pace and you don't end up breaking the difficulty as much nor end up underpowered.

[Anonymous No.8977796]

>>8977768
>>8977790
oh even if you ignore drawing, don't forget to check the bosses, some have GFs that can be drawn from them

[Anonymous No.8977805]

>>8977768
>What do I need to know?

If you're not a retard, forget everything you ever heard about the game, play the game, and make sure to read the in game tutorial menus.

If you're a retard well, you're not going to like it anyway so I don't really care

[Anonymous No.8977851]

>>8977805
I'm not a retard but I did use a GameFAQs guide way back when. Probably written by AbsoluteSteve

[Anonymous No.8977854]

>>8977805
Should I read the manual?

[Anonymous No.8977865]

>>8968212
You talk like a zoomer faggot and your shits all retarded

[Anonymous No.8977871]

>>8977796
>Cross is "Yes" and Circle is "No" in menus
>Instead of the opposite, which is based
I hate it already

[Anonymous No.8977887]

>>8977871
Wife just said "Squall" is a gay name...

[Anonymous No.8977892]

>>8977887
...

[Anonymous No.8977935]

>>8977887
post nudes of ur wife

[Anonymous No.8979443]

>>8977887
whatever.

[Anonymous No.8979460]

FFVIII is EXCELLENT
FFX is SUCKS
End of

[Anonymous No.8979572]

>>8979460
due to time compression
there is no end

[Anonymous No.8980807]

>>8968000
>'waiting'
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.8981058]

>>8968010
>>8971602
>right back to irrelevance
Make seven (7) more games after it, each one of them selling million of copies.
>in business, if you're not growing, you're failing
kek, you must have studied business at the University of Life.

[Anonymous No.8982649]

>>8981058
wut
Are you brain damaged, poodle?

[Anonymous No.8984613]

>>8982649
always thought angelo was a border collie Australian shepherd mix

[Anonymous No.8984615]

>>8968000
romeo and juliet was a love story?

[Anonymous No.8984617]

>>8968000
romeo and juliet wasnt a love story though.

[Anonymous No.8984687]

>>8984615
>>8984617
depends on your perspective
>long running family fued as two tards kill themselves

In a Shakespearean since it's not even his best work

[Anonymous No.8984697]

>>8984687
*sense

[Anonymous No.8986083]

>>8968029
I just played it for the first time as an adult.
It was boring for the most part. The characters have their flaws (in terms of the writing), the gameplay is boring and really fucking linear and easy. Nothing against linear stuff, but I get what people mean when they say hallway simulator.
I enjoyed the story though. And those big ol' moogles.

[Anonymous No.8986331]

>>8986083
i was always more of a rikku-fag as a kid

[Anonymous No.8986392]

>>8968015
>mental gymnastics
If you mindlessly hurl this phrase at everything you disagree with you just look like a retard.

[Anonymous No.8986803]

>>8986392
i'm not the one saying Final Fantasy doesn't sell anymore

[Anonymous No.8986810]

>>8970668
I fucking hated this ending.

[Anonymous No.8986837]

>>8970668
pretty much the perfect ending to any game ever

[Anonymous No.8986851]

>>8986837

[Anonymous No.8987021]

>>8977768
I replayed it last year and made it a bit more challenging with a basic class system and only junctioning the same number of spells as my level

[Anonymous No.8987037]

>>8986810
t. tastelet

[Anonymous No.8987046]

>>8987021
>only junctioning the same number of spells as my level
interdasting

[Anonymous No.8987047]

>>8987021
>only junctioning the same number of spells as my level
interdasting, do you mean quantity of each spell, or number of different spells allowed?

[Anonymous No.8987157]

>>8968615
More like has the best humor. I still guffaw when they're mocking Rinoa's train mockup.

[Anonymous No.8987329]

>>8979572
It’s “Time Kompression”

[Anonymous No.8988007]

>>8987047
Quantity of each spell. I also assigned each character a class and only equipped them with the appropriate magic (Squall - knight, Zell - monk, Rinoa - mage etc). Was pretty fun.

[Anonymous No.8989512]

>>8968025
based and correct

[Anonymous No.8989974]

>>8968000
This intro blew me away when I was a kid

[Anonymous No.8990550]

Is there an easy way to do Open-All and removing all those pesky card rules.

[Anonymous No.8990570]

>>8990550
No easy way, when you get to a new region, fight the right person, if he abolishes or assigns the rule you want save, if not reload your save.

IIRC once you do one rule change per region, that's it; though I think it may be possible to go back&forth between regions to keep changing the rules in each region.

[Anonymous No.8990719]

>>8990550
There's an in-depth guide on GameFAQs. It gets quite complicated IIRC.