DuckStation vs Mednafen

[Anonymous No.8964779]

The great debate

[Anonymous No.8964871]

>>8964779
i choose duckstation because duck is stronger than a nightbug

[Anonymous No.8964887]

Duckstation but if I run into some problem then ePSXe 1.8.0 with Pete's plugins

[Anonymous No.8964895]

>>8964779
I never had problems with Mednafen, but maybe I'll give Duck a try.

[Anonymous No.8964903]

Duckstation on Retroarch.

[Anonymous No.8964904]

>>8964779
Duck's downsampling works with less glitches.

[Anonymous No.8964906]

my impression is duckstation (qt) if you just want to play something and have it look nice without tinkering with the settings for 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.8964907]

Never tried Mednafen because Duckstation works so well.

[Anonymous No.8964936]

>>8964779
i don't know how to start mednafen so i use duckstation
it seems good though even if i did know how to use it

[Anonymous No.8964967]

>>8964779
DuckStation is better

[Anonymous No.8964971]

I usually use Beetle. I have everything on chd, so I can't use standalone Mednafen.

[Anonymous No.8964980]

>>8964779
SwanStation because I use RetroArch.

[Anonymous No.8964984]

>>8964980
I just use Duckstation. What improvements does Swanstation offer?

[Anonymous No.8965003]

>>8964984
Nothing, they're basically identical.

[Anonymous No.8965036]

Duckstation is the definitive PS1 emulator. This is objective.

[Anonymous No.8965057]

Duckstation standalone for PS1 and the Mednafen core for PS1, Saturn and PC Engine.

[Anonymous No.8965058]

W-what about ePSXe??

[Anonymous No.8965163]

>>8964984
Duckstation was the old name and it's no longer updated, I think they switched to Swanstation because the original developer got pissed or something

[Anonymous No.8965170]

>>8965163
>no longer updated
What exactly needed updating? 99% of games already played perfectly

[Anonymous No.8965179]

>>8965170
the rest 1% or maybe some new options/enhancements become available idk, the truth is that i don't think you will be missing anything essential by staying with duckstation, but again, there's no reason not to upgrade

[Anonymous No.8965189]

>>8965058
Back when it was relevant, it had hitching issues for me, but maybe SSDs smooth this over. It's still mostly fine but I hate how configs are locked out once you start a game and frame pacing's a little fucky in modern Windows with DWM. There's just better stuff, but it's still alright for retro builds.

[Anonymous No.8965198]

Ahem. You need more?

[Anonymous No.8965205]

>>8964779
They both have very cute mascots, it's too close to call.

[Anonymous No.8965208]

>inb4 the pSX weirdo even though that thing has always had god awful latency and basically no support for copy protected games like PE2

[Anonymous No.8965210]

>>8964779
I've only ever used ePSXe on retropie.
is there some reason why I'd use Duckstation or Mednafen?

[Anonymous No.8965216]

Mednafen is more accurate and probably have less input lag. Duckstation is my second emulator, mostly for jrpgs and games that use more than 1 cd (you can emulate that on mednafen but didnt bother learning it).

[Anonymous No.8965219]

>>8965208
That emulator was very good…. when we didnt had anything better to use

>>8965210
Mednafen is more accurate

[Anonymous No.8965239]

i prefer mednafen (beetle psx libretro core) it's more accurate

[Anonymous No.8965405]

>>8965198
Killed by SNOY and Apple

[Anonymous No.8965470]

>>8965179
>upgrade
>to retroarch's version of duckstation
Retroarch is never an "upgrade."

[Anonymous No.8965684]

>>8964779
Ducky, but I use Mednafen for Saturn
If only the libretro core were up to date

[Anonymous No.8965694]

For me, it's Beetle PSX, because I'm autistic about input delay.

[Anonymous No.8965709]

Bleem! is still better than these pozzed emus after 23 years

[Anonymous No.8965731]

>>8965709

[Anonymous No.8965736]

>>8965684
There was a recent pull request to update it to upstream

[Anonymous No.8965740]

>>8965216
>>8965694
>input delay
huh? DS doesn't have input delay

[Anonymous No.8965758]

Is this suppose to be a debate? Duckstation is objectively the better PSX emulator. It does everything right: offers lots of QoL and visual improvements, performance is really good even on weak systems and definitely more accessible and easier to set up.

I would agree that input seems a bit jank sometimes but for literally just having a good time playing old PS1 games with some new improvements, Duckstation is ideal.

[Anonymous No.8965764]

>>8964984
>>8965003
You don't seem to understand that DuckStation's dev is schizo and stopped updating the core. So all updates after that point have been collected by the SwanStation project. As for improvements, for starters, disc caching in RAM actually works.

[Anonymous No.8965773]

>>8965764
wat ps1 core to use on retroarch theres a bunch

[Anonymous No.8965780]

>>8965764
t. retroarch-fag
Duckstation's dev just made a commit 12 days ago. He just isn't working directly with the retroarch guys anymore because they're a bunch of shitheads.

[Anonymous No.8965781]

>>8965764
>You don't seem to understand
I understand perfectly
>DuckStation's dev is schizo and stopped updating the core
He's not obligated to work for libretro
>So all updates after that point have been collected by the SwanStation project
The standalone emulator isn't dead, he just infrequently updates it (there was an update after the contrived drama)

[Anonymous No.8965785]

>>8965781
>He's not obligated to work for libretro
It's weird that the libretro fans seem to think so. Fucking weird-ass cult.

[Anonymous No.8965787]

>>8965780
>>8965781
>>8965785
Imagine whiteknighting for a trannyemudev.

[Anonymous No.8965795]

>>8965787
>retroarch cocksucker is the first to reach for 'muh trannies"
pottery

[Anonymous No.8965798]

>>8965781
>>8965785
>He's not obligated to work for libretro
That's why someone else made a core, you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.8965801]

>>8965795
I don't even use retroarch, retard.
You simps lash out at anyone that disagrees with your discord raiding asses.

[Anonymous No.8965803]

>>8965787
TwinAphex, you don't even do anything for libretro anymore. You just keep publically embarrassing your fellow developers who don't want to be caught up in your bullshit drama. Just resign already if all you're going to do for the project is shitpost on /vg/ and /vr/.

[Anonymous No.8965804]

>>8965773
SwanStation

[Anonymous No.8965805]

>>8965731
Search your heart, you know it's true

[Anonymous No.8965806]

>>8965798
amazing deduction, I think you can work as a private investigator

[Anonymous No.8965809]

>>8965803
>TwinAphex
What the fuck are you talking about?
You schizos are the embarrassment.

[Anonymous No.8965819]

>>8965809
You got caught posting on /emugen/ a couple of weeks ago, you can stop pretending like you don't post here.

[Anonymous No.8965821]

>>8965819
Make your meds.

[Anonymous No.8965845]

>>8964779
i like mostly using duckstation but mednafen runs games that rely on disc timings alot better.

go play captain commando on duckstation vs mednafen and you will see what i mean

[Anonymous No.8965856]

>>8965845
On the flip side, mednafen has some weird CPU timing problems in games like Resident Evil 1. You'll randomly have the Control Config menu popup during screen transitions because the controller keeps getting disconnected.

[Anonymous No.8965882]

>>8965801
So you're just a faggot who jumped in to wage war against the trannies that live in his head rent-free, huh?

[Anonymous No.8965891]

>>8965882
You sound like you belong on /v/eddit, trannoid.

[Anonymous No.8965895]

>>8965891
>muh reddit
>muh trannies
Seek help

[Anonymous No.8965904]

>>8965895
>Defends trannies
>Thinks he isn't reddit
You have to go back.

[Anonymous No.8965914]

>>8965780
nice, i thought it was dead. thanks for post

[Anonymous No.8967053]

>>8965198
I remember Harvest Moon couldn't run on it back in the day
Everything else I played on it was perfect though

[Anonymous No.8967115]

>>8965163
>no longer updated
he's back

[Anonymous No.8967119]

Mednafen obviously. Why is there even a debate

[Anonymous No.8967194]

>>8964779
SwanStation in RetroArch

[Anonymous No.8967453]

>>8967115
Shady's back.
Tell a friend.

[Anonymous No.8967483]

>>8965058
>ePSXe
the proper choice

[Anonymous No.8967502]

>>8964887
That's even more prone to errors.

[Anonymous No.8967505]

>>8965163
It is updated, swanstation is the retroarch core that they renamed.

[Anonymous No.8967506]

BizHawk, 'cuz I'm a flaming faggot

[Anonymous No.8967509]

>>8965904
lol tranny chaser

[Anonymous No.8967548]

>>8967509
I do like cute trannies.

[Anonymous No.8967607]

>>8967502
ePSXe is more tolerant of errors such as bad dumps and pirate releases.
I don't know how to do bypass it if you even can but by default Duckstation refuses to boot libcrypt games even if has been cracked or if the game includes the proctection but never actually uses it. You need specialized files to decrypt it. ePSXe and most other emulators just boot these files right up, Duckstation just throws up an error message.

[Anonymous No.8967663]

>>8965058
It used to be my PS1 emulator of choice, but DuckStation blows it out of the water.

[Anonymous No.8968203]

>>8965787
This joke's been made here before but do you really expect an attractive, athletic, strong, charismatic, smart, alpha male to take time off tinder and his new startup and reverse engineer undocumented 30 years old hardware for you to play pirated video games?

[Anonymous No.8968221]

>>8968203
I don't need to emulate. I own original hardware, anon.

[Anonymous No.8968225]

>>8968203
>smart
>tinder
hahahaha

[Anonymous No.8968228]

>>8965731
Bleem! saved emulation from and died in a process. Did Duckstation do that? did Mednafen do that? Did ePSXe do that? pSX?

Nope. Bleem!

[Anonymous No.8968245]

>>8968221
For other people, then. The point remains faggot, nobody cares about you.

[Anonymous No.8968249]

>>8968228
>Bleem! saved emulation from
Exactly. It saved emulation from nothing at all.

[Anonymous No.8968261]

>>8968249
It saved it from having more console manufacturers and publishers suing emulator makers

[Anonymous No.8968285]

>>8967506
Isn't BizHawk just using mednafen?

[Anonymous No.8968321]

>>8968261
Yeah because that was such a big thing before. Oh wait, no, it wasn't, because Bleem were the first and last guys trying to sell a commercial emulator for somebody else's system. That idea was born with Bleem, and died with Bleem.

[Anonymous No.8968326]

>>8964779
>80 replies
>not one mention of PCSX
Where are my PCSX bros at

[Anonymous No.8968419]

If I don care about any extra features of either which is the best option?

[Anonymous No.8968578]

DuckStation because it’s less hassle and mednafen is a fucking retarded name.

[Anonymous No.8968721]

>>8964779
I'd love it if Duckstation had compatibility for non-pleb games, but alas, Mednafen it is.

[Anonymous No.8969370]

>>8968326
I still use PCSX


and Xebra

[Anonymous No.8969407]

>>8965740
You just didnt notice it ^^

[Anonymous No.8969626]

>>8969370
A God amongst men.

>>8964779

I use Retroarch with the Swanstain core because I REFUSE to use Beetle PSX until they fix some bugs that are still there since 2010 (most namely Street Fighter EX Plus Alpha freezing on a black screen when you exit a match, and V8/V820 having graphical glitches on the terrain).

[Anonymous No.8970826]

duckstation works for me. haven't had single problem so far (that wasn't game's fault)

[Anonymous No.8971269]

>>8969626
Why don't you use standalone Mednafen?

[Anonymous No.8971315]

Mednafen. It's more accurate and also has something most people forgot: it has a really, really good netplay code. I play a shitton of PS1 stuff with my friends online and works perfect, including 4 players games.

[Anonymous No.8971684]

>>8971269
standalone mednafen psx has the same issues and hasn't been majorly updated for 2-3 years, the devs are more focused on improving saturn emulation at the moment

[Anonymous No.8971698]

>>8969407
use D3D11 backend with exclusive fullscreen

[Anonymous No.8972142]

mednafen can play rondo of blood so its automatically better

[Anonymous No.8972553]

>>8968326
PCSX-ReARMed actually seems like a pretty decent option these days, for ARM devices at least. Probably less so on PC even though it's likely faster than even Duckstation. The latter just has too many good features.

[Anonymous No.8972558]

Also, Duckstation/Swanstation's downsampling is boss.

[Anonymous No.8972562]

>>8972558
>FF9
gross

[Anonymous No.8972687]

Bitch please...

[Anonymous No.8973759]

>>8972687
The fuck is this

[Anonymous No.8973773]

>>8968321
>because that was such a big thing before.
Emulation was still in its infancy, Nesticle was 3 years old when that happened. So obviously it didn't happen before.

If Sony had won it would have created a precedent, scaring off many emulator makers, whether it was for paying emulation or not; any company would send a C&D letter threatening to sue using that precedent as a base whether it was revelant or not. And if you know general people a little, you'd realize they'd have made big generalizations and call "all" emulation illegal based on that, no more of that grey area or "delete the ROM after 24 hours" bullshit.

So yeah, Bleem won and saved emulation. Had they lost it would probably still be a thing but much more minor, on one side Russians/Chinese hackers and bootleggers

[Anonymous No.8973793]

>>8973759
a classic , thats what is it

[Anonymous No.8974037]

>>8973773
>it would have created a precedent, scaring off many emulator makers
From making commercial emulators for sale, which they didn't do anyway. Nobody but retards were afraid Sony was going to sue ePSXe, I'm sorry to hear you were among them.

[Anonymous No.8974063]

>>8972687
I hated it

[Anonymous No.8974107]

>>8972687
Isn't that just a hack of Connectix VGS?

[Anonymous No.8975459]

Meddy

[Anonymous No.8975509]

>>8968221
Me too.

[Anonymous No.8975590]

>>8964779
Nah, I use pic related for all my PS1 emulation. It works o. the best platforms.

[Anonymous No.8975675]

>>8975509
FPGA will never be 1:1

[Anonymous No.8975687]

>>8975675
It absolutely can be, it just requires better documentation than we have for a lot of hardware.

[Anonymous No.8975853]

I like Duckstation but the shader support confuses me a bit. How do I load up CRT-Royale

[Anonymous No.8975896]

>>8975853
You don't. DuckStation dev doesn't much care for shaders. You either gotta use it with ReShade or use the RetroArch core.

[Anonymous No.8975908]

>>8975896
As much as I love DuckStation I kind of wish there was a pull request to add something more faithful like Blargg's NTSC filters. I understand the dev's aversion to flashy PVM stuff like Royale, but some good 320x composite filters would be nice.

[Anonymous No.8975919]

>>8975896
Makes sense as to why I couldn't find that option anywhere. Thanks for the answer.

[Anonymous No.8977683]

>>8975908
Blargg's filters are overrated.

[Anonymous No.8977704]

>>8965470
You do you anon

[Anonymous No.8977746]

>>8968326
pcsx is a branch of epsexe, its just as shit as it was back in 2004 sadly, no matter what plugins i use, it just looks and runs bad.

>>8964779
i tried duckstation even tho i thought the name was stupid, it works great even tho my gpu is unsupported (dx9/opgl2), running with software renderer fails, running with opengl fails but then reverts to sofware rendered then works?

i run it with an opengl wrapper (opengl32.dll) which allows me to change settings and all games run pretty much full speed all on a core2duo, and its till better than pcsx

[Anonymous No.8977789]

>>8977683
They're pretty good, and I'm not sure how you can decide something is "overrated" when there is barely any competition for accurate NTSC filters. The ones that come with RetroArch are OK I guess but they're pretty generic and nonspecific, unlike Blargg's filters which are handtuned for each console

[Anonymous No.8978101]

>>8972558
>downsamples AND uses a shader on top of it
Absolute zero taste in aesthetics

[Anonymous No.8978124]

>>8977789
Because they're not that accurate? Have you compared them to real hardware? The NES composite output is grittier than Blargg's NES filters, and the Genesis filters don't have the rainbow effect seen in Sonic 1's waterfalls, or the tubes in Chemical Plant Zone. They do blend the dithering at least, but there was more to it than that. Also, at least in the SNES filters, they introduce color banding, which again was not present in real hardware.

As for the RetroArch shaders, I believe guest has recently made one that can be fine-tuned to closely match real hardware, introducing things like the rainbow artifacts I just mentioned.

[Anonymous No.8979881]

Playing PS1/PSX games upscale to HD or 4K is a Sin. The only thing that makes PS1 emulation superior to the real thing is the warping fix, is the only thing that I can't stand on real hardware.

[Anonymous No.8979883]

If I'm gonna connect my dedicated emulation PC with batocera to a CRT, which one of these should I use over the other and why?

[Anonymous No.8979886]

>>8964871
Fpbp

Captcha nach0

[Anonymous No.8979903]

>>8974037
Except the fact that it wasn't commercial barely mattered in the trial. Sony was arguing that their machine was the only ones who had the right to play other people's games, which the court disagreed with. Had it been the other way around it would have been open door to sue non-commercial emulators as well, and that trial is the only reason why it hasn't been happening.

To think they don't care as long as the emulator is free is ridiculous, the suits still see it as lost hardware sales.

[Anonymous No.8981264]

>>8979903
Suing people for distributing stuff for free on the internet never works out. You can get the low hanging fruit, but then it gets harder and harder to find them.
Sony never had a chance in court, nobody else would have even bothered.

[Anonymous No.8981426]

>>8964779
Mednafen because it's still in Active developement

[Anonymous No.8981446]

>>8981426
Duckstation is still in active development, too. The author just isn't working with the Retroarch twats anymore.

[Anonymous No.8981568]

>>8981446
Really?
Same GitHub Page?

[Anonymous No.8982504]

>>8981568
Yeah, go check it out

[Anonymous No.8982520]

>>8981568
The main repo was unlocked weeks after the drama

[Anonymous No.8984429]

>>8964779
Duckstation for enhancements, Mednafen for accuracy. Pretty straightforward.

[Anonymous No.8984732]

>>8967115
>appimage
based

[Anonymous No.8984812]

>>8964871
>this
would rather fight a thousand duck sized nightbugs than a thousand nightbug sized ducks, ducks are motherfuckers

[Anonymous No.8986807]

>>8964779
duckstation is the best.

[Anonymous No.8986820]

Recently had problems with Mednafen recognising my controller, whereas Duckstation didn't.
Also Mednafen is a fucking stupid name.