/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.894641]

Can we have a Star Control thread?

[Anonymous No.894650]

>Command override
>New behavior dictated
>Must break target into component materials

[WE COME IN PEACE No.894658]

WE COME IN PEACE

[Anonymous No.894660]

>>894650
>>894658

YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT PROBES LEAVE ME ALONE GODDAMMIT

[Anonymous No.894662]

Which version is better, the original or the Ur Quan Masters version?

[Anonymous No.894663]

>>894662
I'd go with UQM:HD

[Anonymous No.894665]

>>894663

Thanks, I'll look into that.

[Anonymous No.894668]

[Anonymous No.894676]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCUXcDax3UU

[Legion of Anon No.894685]

>>894641
>>894660

Antagonists done almost perfectly. I don't think anything since has even approached their level of epic-ness.

[Anonymous No.894704]

>To break the psychic link the Dnyarri had on the Ur-Quan, the Ur-Quan would cut themselves with glass and burn themselves, using the moments of freedom they had to kill the Dnyarri that had a hold of them. They even made a device that generates a constant stream of agony throughout their body just so they could break free. They were so goddamn traumatized that to ensure that the same thing never happen again, they went to war against each other on their methods (either enslaving or killing all other races) to prevent further enslavement.

Jesus fucking Christ. That was darker than I thought it would be.

[Anonymous No.894715]

[Legion of Anon No.894718]

>>894704

And on top of all that, they killed the only race they called friends...and their friends let them do it.

[Anonymous No.894720]

>>894650
>>894658
>>894660

Find the Slylandro already, you casual scrubs

[Anonymous No.894721]

>>894715

The Orz are Them.

[Anonymous No.894725]

>>894720

That's always one of the first things I do.

Fuck those probes.

[Anonymous No.894739]

[Anonymous No.894743]

This game is awesome, but I just can never get the hang of those weird trusting controls.

[Anonymous No.894746]

>>894743

If the battles are too hard for you then just activate Cyborg mode.

[Anonymous No.894768]

>>894746
What does it do, play them automatically?

[Anonymous No.894780]

>>894768

Yep. It's good if you just want to learn the story. You should really git gud though.

[Anonymous No.894783]

I kind of wish there was a version of the game that did true ship rotation instead of those preset angles. It would make combat so much more enjoyable to me.

I'm a little sorry the high-res remakes did nothing about that. But I guess that wouldn't be entirely faithful, would it?

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[Anonymous No.894807]

>>894715
They don't write good sci-fi like that anymore.

[Anonymous No.894820]

[Anonymous No.894850]

[Anonymous No.894879]

ded thread general

[Anonymous No.894894]

>>894879
we recieved a hyperwave transmission from our twin gods dogar and kazon that told us to post in other threads

[Anonymous No.894913]

[Anonymous No.894932]

>>894820
i feel like its staring into my soul... or would if i had one...

[Anonymous No.894935]

[Anonymous No.894936]

>>894807
you should watch doctor who.

[Anonymous No.894939]

>>894936

>Doctor Who

He said GOOD Sci-Fi.

[Anonymous No.894948]

>>894939
>do not like the entertainment medium that i do not like also

[Anonymous No.894975]

>>894948

You know it.

[Anonymous No.894976]

>>894939
if he likes the writing in the star control games I see no reason why he wouldn't like the writing in Doctor Who as well. The focus on that show has always been the writing anyhow.

[Anonymous No.894985]

Fuck I'm almost out of star control gifs.

[Anonymous No.895001]

This thread is just like the game: dead.

[Anonymous No.895005]

This is my final star control gif. I couldn't find animated gifs for the other races. I apologize.

[Legion of Anon No.895121]

I'll help out, anon. Could have sworn I had a Thraddash gif(arguably the best joke race), but I don't.

[Legion of Anon No.895126]

[Legion of Anon No.895131]

>>895126

Not animate, before people get their hopes up.

[Legion of Anon No.895135]

[Legion of Anon No.895139]

So, is pic related a fan mod/hack, or did Toys for Bob plan on having Androsynth remnants show up at some point? Or is this from the gawd-awful SC3?

[Legion of Anon No.895141]

Last one...sorry that I don't have that much either.

[Anonymous No.895157]

>>895139
>androsynth
>clones
>the way they look
oh god, they are picking on synthpop acts, arent they

[Anonymous No.895165]

>>895139
an as yet unfinished mod called project6014 seems to have them in it.

[Legion of Anon No.895271]

>>895157

I guess they are, now that I really look at it...

>>895165

Ah, thanks for the info anon.

So, favorite race for combat(Arilou)? Background(Thraddash)?

[Anonymous No.895273]

I could never figure this game out. Though it was awesome even if I sucked ass at it.

I might try picking it up again, any advice for a sweet victory?

[Legion of Anon No.895346]

>>895273

Taking notes helps.
Clear out all the stuff you can from each planet in a system. It's worth it.
Run away from the probes; until your ship is better equipped/you have the skills, they will do as they say(disassemble you into your component materials). Given that you haven't played that much, find the Slylandro fast.
Talk to everyone as much as possible...there's some gawd-tier dialogue in here.
Try to convince the Spathi on Pluto to join you...his ship can provide an early edge.

[Anonymous No.895441]

>>894936
Honestly, I've considered it. But such a long running series, how do you just hop into it?

I know absolutely nothing about the series aside from there's a doctor and he hops in a police call box. That's it. Oh, and I guess there were R2-D2 robots that wanted to kill everyone at some point?

[Anonymous No.895452]

>>895271
Orz are best race.

Best for combat though, probably Spathi. Speeding away and firing homing rockets out your tail end is such a cheesing method to win though.

I am grateful they're so good at picking on enemies early game though.

[Anonymous No.895461]

>>895346
>find the Slylandro fast
Oof, I don't know about that. You do remember how far across the galaxy they are, right?

[Anonymous No.895478]

>>895271
Druuge are my favorite in Super-Melee. They pack a huge punch but still require some amount of skill to play, and can take out much bigger ships.

[Anonymous No.895484]

>>895001

Fun fact: there were some teenage girls on the UQM discussion forum a few years ago who wrote gay slash-fiction involving the Captain and Commander ZEX. Kids these days…

[Anonymous No.895519]

>>895478
I also really like Mycon, though they're extremely overpriced. Someone made a mod that rebalances ship prices in Super-Melee for the tiny competitive scene on IRC (if anyone is even still on there).

I love how varied the ships are in Super-melee, and how everything has good matchups and bad matchups, and some matchups are more skill-intensive than others. If you play with the rule that you're not allowed to run more than one ship of any type, it's actually pretty strategic -- you have to decide when to play certain ships to take out your opponent's ship and when to keep them in reserve, judge when circumstances are favorable enough for you to get away with "stretch" matchups, etc.

There should be more games that offer that kind of wacky yet deep competitive experience. Space games these days always have multiple ships fighting each other at once, but I actually really like how in Star Control you take turns sending a single ship into the fight. I like the "toy-like" quality Super-Melee has, almost like you're playing a game of marbles or some shit. The player can only realistically control one ship at a time anyway, at least if you want to make skillful maneuvers and use your special weapons properly. It seems like a lot of the more interesting abilities the Star Control ships have are only workable because of the one-on-one combat.

[Anonymous No.895520]

>>894850
These guys are really the ultimate troll race after what they did to the Spathi.

[Anonymous No.895548]

>>894850
These fucks are like the Brazilians of the Star Control universe

[Anonymous No.896273]

>>894780
The most important part of gittin gud is upping your turning speed. That changes the whole game.

[Anonymous No.896278]

>>895139
SC3 has horrifying puppets in it. It doesn't look anything like SC2. Don't look up what they look like, you don't need that in your life.

[Anonymous No.896289]

>>896278
>Not wanting to wake up to this face every morning

[Anonymous No.896305]

>>896289

[Anonymous No.896360]

>>895157
Isn't their victory tune based on a Devo track?

[Anonymous No.896893]

>>896360
They also have a pilot called BOOJI-1.

[Kasperl No.897846]

>>896360
He was a Mongoloid.

[Anonymous No.899015]

>>894658
GO TO HELL

[Anonymous No.899024]

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[Anonymous No.899056]

>>894668
Nicest aliens ever. Not so sure on their effectiveness though..

[Anonymous No.899092]

>>899056
I like their ship, its maneuverability could make human vs. human battles very skill based.

[Anonymous No.899615]

>>899092

You'd think so, but it doesn't work as well in practice as you might hope due to the velocity cap. If you're flying at top speed, maneuvering left and right will slow down your forward momentum because your speed vector can't get any longer. I wish they'd account for this somehow; it'd make the ship much better.

[Anonymous No.899770]

>>894715
>mfw i found out that ALL orz are female

[Anonymous No.899787]

>>899770

There's only one Orz.

[Anonymous No.899793]

>>894985

I always imagined that smog was the result of horrible flatulence.

[Anonymous No.899797]

Your insight into the ineffable Juffo-Wup is encouraging

[Anonymous No.899816]

>>895441
just watch the new series. Since The Doctor always have new companions he explains everything about recurring villains and themes to them.

But this is a Star Control thread anyway.

>>899770

Shub-Niggurath?

[Anonymous No.899828]

I have for the first time played this game (starting with SC2). Holy fucking shit is this GOOD. I was so immersed that I played for like 24 hours straight including vast dives into the wiki. Rarely has a story immersed me so much and interested me even more.

I suppose there isn't anything like it after SC2? ;_;

[Anonymous No.899831]

>>894668
>>899056

Supox are not here. Orz are here.

[Anonymous No.899832]

>>895548
>HUE....HUE...HUE...HUE

[Anonymous No.899847]

>>899831

Man, I wished Toys for Bob would finish that part of the story and give us some clarification. The Orz are mysterious enough that I really want to know them (and "them") better.

[Anonymous No.899861]

>>899816
this, Watch the current doctor and then work your way back. Though one thing I have found daunting is getting into the stuff before the resurrection. Where should I start there?

[Anonymous No.899889]

>>896360
>>896893
>>897846
awesome... I went through a phase where I was a huge Devo fan, though I'd consider them more synthpunk than synthpop.. or later on new wave... but I'm splitting hairs
also the name if the song is simply Mongoloid

also, I'm thinking of finally trying these games out... should I start with Star Force 1 or jump straight into Star Force 2?

[Anonymous No.899898]

Anyone knows how to play online with the Ur-Quan masters sourceport?

[Anonymous No.899906]

>>899889
dude starforce is a copyprotection software.

[Anonymous No.899907]

>>899898
I used to do this years ago but it's been a while. This page should get you started though.

http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/Netplay_howto

[Anonymous No.902016]

>>897846
Personally I think Timing X would've made a better victory track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrL26-U4cCg

[Anonymous No.902179]

[Anonymous No.902374]

>>902179
Thraddash are awesome. And their ships are surprisingly effective. It pays to have a couple in your fleet.

[Anonymous No.902380]

>>902374
Gotta love that theme song too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPO-O6uyuJU

[Anonymous No.902389]

>>902179
>they only have 3 fingers, so their hash marks only go up to 3
That's... a remarkable attention to detail.

[Not Space Pirate !xHjFAGU6qc No.902570]

Anyone got the one with the Earth Commander during the low radioactive supply, and the second part looks like the place is havinga disco party?

[Anonymous No.902578]

>>902389
arne's pretty cool

[Anonymous No.902609]

>>902570
Pls respond ;_;

[Anonymous No.902656]

>>895519
>and how everything has good matchups and bad matchups,
Umgah has good matchups?

[Anonymous No.902672]

>>902389
The guy who draws those is meticulous about the logic of his drawings.
His art tutorial starts off with him explaining his view of humans as "meat machines".

[Anonymous No.903141]

>>902570
>>902609
I knew I had it stuffed in there somewhere.

[Anonymous No.903543]

>>902656
Everything except Umgah has good matchups.

[Anonymous No.904556]

>lose fwiffo
time to restart

[Anonymous No.904697]

>>904556
My thoughts exactly. What kind of victory is a game where you lose dear sweet Fwiffo?

[Kasperl No.904901]

[Anonymous No.904916]

>>894662
Ur-quan masters, bro.

[Anonymous No.904924]

So glad to see this thread.

[Anonymous No.904940]

I can't think any game series since has had such a charming and diverse array of aliens. Most games may have one or two curiosities but few with an entire spectrum.

[Kasperl No.905195]

[Anonymous No.905372]

>>894685
Indeed as they define major aspects of the games atmosphere even if the motives seem to be alien yet you can still relate to them at some point. It felt so drastic that they explained their story to you just by telling them THE WORDS. This is just how the game works. While it does explain everything you need to know, you might not fully grasp anything that happened because it feels cruel from your perspective.

On my first playthrough I was even reluctant to fight the Ur-Quan due to what happened to them in their past. I felt a multitude of emotions on that. Glorious game.

Did you guys know that when the Kzer-Za lost the war with the Kohr-Ah they beg you to run away. You can literally feel that the only thing the Kzer-Za wanted was the preservation of any race.

That thing that blew my mind was that any race that lost against the Kzer-Za also had to lose their past. When a planet was enslaved, any sign of old culture had to be erased from that culture. They didn't do that because they are the big evil and need to fuck up cultures and all of that, but they asumed that every race need to forget their past, something that the Ur-Quan direly want but can't because that is the way their live. From their perspective erasing old history is a form of compassion and even love.

They clearly wanted the best for any race but did in their own fucked up way.

[Kasperl No.906858]

[Anonymous No.907821]

>>895141
Wait a minute... Is that Dita Von Teese?

[Kasperl No.908607]

[Anonymous No.908790]

>>905372

I thought that was just the Ur-Quan scanning for possible Precursor artifact sites and then blasting them to smithereens.

The commander at the starbase did mention that the Ur-Quan ignored some historical sites, namely most of the American ones. Since those sites aren't as ancient as the Pyramids or Stonehenge, it wasn't likely to be a place where Precursor technology would be located.

[Anonymous No.908901]

>>908790
They targeted any historical site over 500 years old

The only one that was weird was the one in Antarctica

[Anonymous No.910592]

Thanks to all the guys keeping this thread bumped with images. Doing GOD'S WORK.

[Kasperl No.911284]

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[Kasperl No.914248]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2o9znK7SpA

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[Anonymous No.915972]

I don't know if this is a dumb question or not..but why isn't the Ilwarth homeworld located in their sphere of influence?

[Anonymous No.916004]

>>915972
I think that's because the backstory between Star Control 1 and 2 has it that the Illrath took over the Chenjesu's territory. Also, there's some ingame events that will get them to move their sphere.

[Legion of Anon No.916085]

>>915972
>>916004

That, and there's some indications that another race played more than a few pranks on them(it's pretty easy to figure out who...).

[Anonymous No.917169]

>>899828
Star Control 2 was pretty heavily "inspired" by Starflight, you should check that one out. The Genesis version is the most accessible and it doesn't dumb anything down so I would check that one out. Be sure to read the manual first though

[Kasperl No.917539]

[Anonymous No.917920]

>>915972
Spheres of Influence represent the locations of fleets. The Illwrath fleet is guarding Chenjesu space/attacking the Pkunk

[Kasperl No.919712]